 You don't mention him though. Y'all use my boy out here in the West Coast and y'all where is it? Where's the mentions at a DOC? She understand DOC, okay? DOC comes from another one of my boys. Dr. Rock I gotta ask you this because I got offended about it, too Why you don't mention DOC like that cuz he was with them man. You know what? You don't mention him though. You don't use my boy out here in the West Coast and y'all where is it? Where are the mentions at a DOC? She understand DOC, okay? DOC comes from another one of my boys dr. Rock correct. Okay, right? You don't want I got the story for him. So you're right Worked at Eva to dark. Okay, and he moved suddenly to Texas. I know why but I'm gonna tell you right now Ran him out. I didn't run him out of nothing. We're talking about that He had to go to Texas. Okay, so wrecking crew blows up We go to Texas There's dr. Rock. He didn't blow up in Texas doing mixes on the time during the morning show, right? He got a group Called feeling fresh crew. That's right. I meet the OC everybody cool. Then they come back to the pad To do some time to do some productions in the studio. That's what I meet him again Okay, and they're all cool. Everything is lovey-dovey. We admit me and DOC is kicking it. Okay, then they all leave Okay, they all go and join ruthless So we don't have this we don't have a super tight relationship We got love for each other when they came from Dallas you was all in the midst of what was going on I'll understand this at that time. I just I don't sit in studios. Okay I'm an executive producer. I want to hear the shit when they get done. I got other shit to do I'm the one that's telling the records. I'm the one doing the deals. I'm the one. I'm still doing clubs I'm still not doing your great here. Hit the keys in the studio. Remember. You remember happy days Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't work with old defiance the key. I'm already in the keys man Lock up when you get through. That's it. That was that was that was how I rolled Wow That's how everybody would battle cap and change the same thing. Nick if I'm busy here. The keys is Lock up when you get through. So that's why you didn't really have a bond with him like you did with Dray Right. I didn't deal with it. You didn't deal with him. He was going back and forth Texas They had already left they to do the ruthless right and we never had a problem easy E now let's go back to him because He would have been the one forcing the issue to not be at London's place because he's trying to do his own thing No, well see I Introduced him over to Jerry Jerry hell to introduce easy to Jerry Heller But I introduced him to audio achievements the bigger studio. Okay, so you had to help it dude I've been that dude since day one. That's why I'm the guy father Everybody comes to me to find out what they need when it look at the roofless road Look at the Lucas roof roofless logo. It looks just the same guy that made the roofless logo made the crew cut logo made the Techno hop logo made a bunch of logos because that was our artist easy's first lawyer was my lawyer He didn't have a lawyer. I took him to my lawyer King Claver's got his first contracts. Wow, so so okay So easy basically used you for your entrepreneurship skills. It was He utilized my easy was easy was a student of mine. He watched me he saw what I was doing and he took it To another level. That's all okay. He saw me making money with records. He when he wanted when he started making his records He knew he couldn't get into the swap meet unless he called on so Had to connect with the swap meets he couldn't get to Kate egg with Greg Mack cuz Because the ship was custom. I also had to connect with Greg Mack He couldn't get a hookup with with Jerry Heller because Lazo had to connect with Jerry Heller You the one sitting with Jerry. Yeah, man. I'm here. Who'd you need that man? I need to meet I wouldn't be Jerry Hello, and you want me some money so Jerry like a Big name at that time. No, Jerry was working with Jerry Jerry's partner working with a dream team Reconcrew just got a deal with Sony, but I didn't deal. I did the deal myself as Sony Jerry was around but he didn't do the deal because My lawyer and I did really my lawyer pulled my code. He said do you really want to get because they came after us For cuz lovers were so big. I saw lovers were so big CBS came looking for us Okay, they called me up. Hey, we got a meeting with you lock it on. I want to meet you guys cool So I go down there was lovers before it turned off tonight. Yeah Yeah, yeah We go to I go to Sony. He says want to give you all a record deal. How much $100,000 cool So I called up my lawyer. Hey man. I got a record deal. Do I need to manage it? He said Why do you need to manage it right now? You already got a record deal Are you gonna do is give away $20,000 not he going 20% you gonna give away $20,000. He says I'll do I'm gonna do the deal anyway You just get yourself on this one cell phones are still locked in the car. You can even put them in your pocket You couldn't have been great one. They was that a big great one Man 75 something minute. Yeah, easy. So I'm a baller now, right? I'm a baller now. Yeah, I'm officially a baller Yeah, I got a lawyer. I got a BMW with a phone in it and a people you got to be but gotta have a And my Jericho was moist as a mother it wasn't no In a pillow my house ain't greasy as hell So my lawyer The lawyer and the business the fair department of Sony cut the deal and he would tell me what what I want it This is all that they offering this take if you take this right here You get this right here all a man's you're gonna do is relay that shit to you. I have always been a business man I've been having been since I was 19 years old. Okay. So I'm not stupid I did go to college didn't graduate, but I pass few college classes. So I understand basic shit like that So he told me what I had to do. Okay, cool. We got your deal. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one Yeah, we gonna talk