 What happened to me? Oh Appalachian mutt. Biscuits. Biscuits. Um, good morning. Morning. How y'all doing? Happy Saturday. Happy Saturday, all day. Yeah, every day, all day, Saturday. Yeah, all day. There we go. Hey. Hey, Betsy. Hey. Uh, good morning. Murray Milani wins the winkey button for today. Hey, Lynette Jester, Lisa Gervais, Jory Johnson, Christine Miller, Mary Sleppy. Hey, Mary. Um, yeah, it's funny when you meet wiki-triers out on the road, you get really connected to them. I think Mary's my new sister. Um, Brian, you're late. Oh, yeah. I even had to say I'm late. Of course you had to say you're late. Uh, Trisha's here. Trisha, uh, Andrew. Hey, Shelly. How are you? Dr. Shelly Murphy's here. Yay. Uh, John Tyler's here. Let's see. DeSpencer Carr, June Butka. Not bacon, any blueberry stuff, though. DeSpencer Carr, Victor's here. Let's see, Susie Carter. Chris Ferriello is here. Oh, let's see. Ah, Denise Jarrett's here. Hey, hey, Denise. And let's see. Fibonacci, yes. We love Fibonacci's around here. Yes, we do. Uh, Hilary Gatsby from the north of Wales. Trisha and, um, Marie Carpenter. Hey, wait a minute. Hey, I was listening to an audio book and lost track of time. You're here in time, Hilary. Yeah, you made it. I am going to say good morning and then I'm going to throw it over to Betsy Co. We are shaking it up this morning because I have to get to school an hour earlier than usual. It's so funny that she's still in school, y'all. Tell me when you learn everything you need to know, Betsy Co. Um, so a little update on the photos. Um, so there was a delay on getting the G2G post and the free space page up, but those will be in place in about two hours, I would guess. Um, and so when you see my, um, weekly G2G post about the, um, about next week's live cast, it will happen. Yup. So, um. Do that. Good job on the name. I just want to put that out to you guys. Oh. On the name. I'm sorry. I pronounced somebody's name correctly. I'm not going to move. Oh, nice. One of the things we try to do here in the morning. We try. Not put your names. So we will look at, uh, favorite photos, uh, next week and we'll still have three Saturdays to look at favorite photos. So, um, get, get them ready. Um, so we have two ancestors to celebrate. Um, and I'm going to quickly go over to the first one. Okay. So, um, this is Ruth Jowett and let me make it a little bigger for you. Uh, Ruth Jowett's third great-grandfather, um, who has two links to the month of December. Um, he died in December and also he had his first marriage to her third great-grandmother in December. So there's a little bit of a story here. Um, so he married Martha Fusen, uh, in St. Mary's Parish Church in Hull on the 12th of December, 1841 by license. And they both claim to be a full age, but it seems that this was not true. So, uh, the both, both, um, James and Martha signed the register and their witnesses signed, but then there was another marriage ceremony, um, at the end of April, this time following the publication of bonds, um, bands, and, um, this time both correctly declared that they were minor. So they came clean, um, and a different set of witnesses. And, uh, they had quite a number of children, nine children. Um, Ruth is to say her line goes through Lucinda. And, um, he worked as a draper's clerk and then later, uh, as a traveling salesman selling wines and spirits. Very sadly, in the early hours of December 29, 1866, uh, his wife, Martha, found him unconscious at home. She couldn't rouse him, um, help came, but they, they couldn't revive him. Um, it was found that he had taken opium, um, which was available as a medicine at that time. So, um, so there is James. Thank you, Ruth, for, um, for telling us about him. I'm going to put the link in the, in the chat. Um, so please give us more ancestors to celebrate for next week. Um, our second one for today is Teresa Thompson. Um, and this is, uh, Linda body's mother. And, uh, her mother, I, that's as big, the, the profile is, is, um, a certain privacy level. That's as big as I can show it. Um, but her mother was born. We're not sharing your screen now. Oh, I'm not. No. What happened? I think you, when you closed down, uh, James. Oh, that's happened. That happened to me. I wonder if there's like something different in stream yard now. Is that used not to happen? They haven't set up that you can either share a window, share a tab or share a screen. So you have to pick, there's tabs across the top. You have to pick the right one of those. Okay. All right. I'll practice. I'll get it right for next time. Um, there's Teresa. Teresa Ann Thompson. And she was born on Christmas day in, uh, 1933. Uh, she believed that her older sisters were allowed to name her and they chose Teresa Ann because they were studying St. Teresa of Avila in Catholic school. However, when Linda was doing her and Sir family tree, she discovered that her mother's great grandfather had been married to a first wife and had two children by that wife. Um, this wife and the two little children died and then her great grandfather subsequently remarried the woman who was Linda's great grandmother. And the first wife was named Teresa Ann. So just one of those little incidents. That's one of those things makes you go. Oh, exactly. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So thank you, Linda. Thank you for sharing. Um, now, um, our tip of the week this week, uh, let me. Okay. I've gotten to the right. Um, so you have a free space page that shows all your tips of the week. This is very cool. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Um, so this is a pretty good model of what I want to talk about, which is what happens when you have a long free space page like this one is getting to be. Um, first of all, you can see I've got a table of contents, which I can see your Nazi, but then if I say I want to edit one of these particular, um, sections instead of going just into overall edit and scrolling down to find it, which can get a little, uh, taxing on the eyes, I have these internal edit marks, which if I click, it's just going to take me to editing that particular section. So, um, now I, now I am going to go to overall edit mode. And so the, this is, this is, I give credit to Eowyn for this because when I started this free space page, she said it's, it's going to get long. You should have a table of contents so that people can quickly, um, uh, get to what they're interested in. And then as well, it gives us edit feature. So the key is just what we're all used to seeing on our, um, profiles that we work on these two, um, just equal signs on either side, which creates the heading. And in a free space page, we'll also create the, um, the internal edit option. Um, now if you decide, this is a helpful, helpful thing that I learned not too long ago, if you decide that you don't want to see the table of contents, you can do this, you can do underscore twice. And then N O T O C or no table of contents. Now I'm going to save that, go back to the page. And it's gone. No, don't worry. I'll put it back. So the organizer in me says, Oh no, once you get to a certain point, aren't you going to put them into like categories unto themselves? Like, um, Like maybe by year. Yeah. Well, I was thinking last year because you want people to find stuff like involving personal profiles, stuff involving space pages, involving biographies, stuff involving searching for things. I don't know. You just gave me my project for the winter break. I'll tweak it. All right. Well, the reason Betsy's going first is she said she had to go back to school. What are you doing at school today that you have to be there early? Are you molding young minds? Today is the big end of, end of, well, end of the semester concert day. And so my flute quartet, the purple hippopotamide that I usually coach from 12 to two, they're not, they have a dress rehearsal and a concert that overlaps. So I had to put them from 11 to one. Well, there you go. You're going to go play with some purple hippopotamus. Now if people were walking in and didn't know anything, they would think this is a really strange show for Saturday. I don't think it's not. Do you know why? Did I explain why their name that? I don't know. There are seven syllables in purple hippopotamide, and it's a good way to count septuplets. Ah. Purple hippopotamide, purple hippopotamide, purple hippopotamide. Well, there you go. That is very cool. So if I had seven children, would I name them purple hippopotamide? Oh, I assume you would like them more than that. Don't. Well, I have three children and they are not named that. Very cool. Now is Santa going to show up at your concert? Yeah. I'm not sure. The school is big enough that they had, there were band concerts last night, and today there are orchestra concerts and choir concerts. It's like a whole 30 hour extravaganza. Some naps among interspersed. I'm not involved in the concerts today. But I think the point was, are you going to get to see Santa? Or are there going to be elves involved? I hope so. This is a very live cast. Oh, look at her. She's leaving. Because the secret Santa elves post has gone up. What is messing with my stuff? That was me. Sorry. I was trying to make a little segue and then pass it back to you. Gotcha. There you go. Go for it, Greg. I was just going to say, because if elves are showing up at your concert, they could maybe volunteer to be wiki tree elves. Because this morning the post went up for elves wanted for the secret Santa 2023 challenge. I'm sorry. That is so funny. Totally without telling any of my co-hosts what I was planning on doing. I just saw a segue and I ran for it. We talked about it beforehand. That's okay. It's Saturday morning and nothing. No rules apply. No rules. It's chaos. Tell us what this is about, Greg. If this is your first year in wiki tree and welcome, I hope you're enjoying the community. The last couple of years we've actually had a special challenge that happens around this time of year. It's called the wiki tree secret Santa. There's two posts that went up on GGG. I'm showing you the one that elves wanted one. People on the other post, if you make a wiki tree wish, you've done some research and you're sort of stuck. Maybe it's a brick wall or maybe it's not so much you're stuck. It's that you're trying to research where this family came from. Maybe you have records for them in Canada or the U.S. but you don't have them from the home country. Or there's a place that you know your family's from but you don't have the background or the knowledge of how to investigate in that area. You can make a wish on the GGG post and I'll just show you that right here, actually. And you just have to answer it. Click answer this post. Oh, we've already got one. It's a clerk wish. Look at that. It's a clerk. It's a clerk. Thank you for saying somebody to do that. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. Tia did that. All right, Tia. So you just make a wish and there's three rules just like the genie of the lamp. You can't kill anybody but you can ask for death records. You can't make anyone fall in love but you could ask for marriage records for children and no wishing for more wishes. Just one wish per wiki tree year. And as we solved 34 of these wishes last year. So we didn't solve every single one of them because some of these wishes are true brick walls. And if it's a wiki tree you're asking for it, we have very experienced wiki tree years and if it's an experienced wiki tree you're asking for help, then it's not going to be a really, it may not be an easy piece of cake request. Yeah, deep, deep. Yeah, they could be deep, deep. But I mean, we have amazing wiki tree years and they have solved some of those deep, deep problems. So don't let that scare you off. Sometimes it just takes a fresh pair of eyes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but I do want to say if your wish doesn't get fulfilled, every wish will be looked at and by at least one or two people. So we're going to do our best. And in many cases, if they didn't solve it, they've added research notes of things that they've tried that worked or didn't work or maybe other avenues if you have more time to look up on. There's lots of that. But so that's, that's making the wish. And then if you want to help out, then you got to sign, you have to sign up and say you'll be an elf. And so that would be great. And so we have two weeks to sign up to put poster wishes and to sign up to be an elf. And then the kickoff will be after the December 23rd live roundup livecast at 12 noon eastern time, there'll be a zoom call with all of the elves. We're going to get together and we're going to strategize and the challenge, the work will happen between December 23rd to January 5th. And then on Saturday, the Saturday livecast roundup is going to be taken over by Santa's elves because on January 6th it's going to be a real epiphany. A real what? Epiphany. He was just waiting for that. And we will show at 10 o'clock on that Saturday, January 6th. For those of us who aren't Catholic, you may want to explain that. Well, January 6th is the feast of the epiphany when the three wise men arrive. But epiphany in the dictionary also means a revelation or an understanding. So it's a doublant tendre. That's so fun. So there's the secret Santa. And I believe my two fellow lead elves, Christine Daniels and Kathy Nava are in the chat. Yeah, the first year that we did this, Kathy ran with it. Yeah, she went nuts. We talked about it. It started in the livecast. It did, yeah. She ran with it. So yeah, that's great. And there's a discord channel, a special discord channel for secret Santa. So when you sign up to be an elf, you'll be added to that channel. Back to regularly scheduled programming. Oh, wait a second. I was supposed to put on my Santa hat while I was making that announcement. I had this year all this time. Now you can't take it off. Well, okay. I'll get sparkles all over it. Well, I can leave it on now. Sparkles on this. Look how sparkly it is. But they all fall off. So I think I'm going to take it off. Before I say goodbye, can I just put something in the chat for tomorrow? We have the second new member. Q&A via zoom. At 11. Eastern standard time. And we have lots of new members. I'm noticing we had a very big group on Thursday. So if you are a new member, you know a new member. You're not so new member. Just coming up with me. And Steve Greenwood and Hillary Gatsby who are nice. All right. Bye. Hi, Betsy. Hi, Betsy. Thank you. All right. Oh, doggie. My packers elf hat on. So see you started a fast. I started it now. Yes. So Victor. You're not on the right schedule for him. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Sorry, I just. You're so funny, man. You're so funny doing that. Question of the week. Wait. Yes. I'm on the wrong page on my words of wisdom. I see what words of wisdom. There we go. All right. No, I'm still on the wrong screen. Oh, I got to fix this real quick. Sorry. Greg, boy, you just. I'm just throwing you for that. There we go. Because I have to be able to see what I'm doing. Question of the week. What words of wisdom have been passed down in your family? Do you have any words of wisdom? Any words of wisdom? I don't know. Always do your work to do your best. Yeah. People talk about a lot of a lot of them are repeats. A lot of them aren't. I was looking to see if some of the stuff that my grandmother used to say was on. And because she used to say some some unusual stuff. And so somebody actually says one of my grandmother's weird. She had a. Oh, you went muted. I did. There we go. Now you're back. No, I was taking my shirt off. She used to say in her voice. We don't do that in our family. What? What? What? We have rules about what? All right. So the question of the week is do you have any things passed down? And I want to point out. That this is not working correctly. Okay. So maybe this one will work. I want to stop sharing because my stuff has gone catararchy on me. Oh, no. I'm going to do all of this. Greg. Question of the week. There we go. All right. So 52 answers this week. I want to point out. And it's not. I'm not doing it. So here we go. No. There you go. As you're actually added a section at the bottom of the question. I just spread the word about the question of the week. Make sure you say they're going to talk about it on Saturday morning. Yes. Yeah. What time is it? You got me miscombobulated, man. Treat people the way you want them to treat you. Never make someone a priority who makes you an option. Ooh. Pay your bills and stay out of debt. Pursue hobbies and interests outside of work. Interesting. And along with that one, I've heard that when you retire, stay busy. Yes. Yeah. That wasn't a problem for me. You don't have that problem. I do not have that problem. No, you don't. I'm amazed at you. You're like the energizer battery, Greg. It will feel better when it quits hurting and crying makes it worse. Hmm. I don't know about that one. When seeking advice, don't ask someone who is going to do something. Ask someone who has already done it. Hmm. I agree and disagree sometimes if somebody's never done something, they don't have preconceived notions. I don't know. Good things come to those who wait. It's usually leftovers. Those of us. For those of us. Those are very interesting. That's interesting. Let's see. I was told from a young age that if you don't ask, you don't get, but when you do ask, do so respectfully and politely. Like Oliver, please sir, can I have some more? Hmm. Also, if you do ask politely, does a full symphony start and people start to sing? That's right. If also, if we had a little knock, we were told that a little bit of pain never hurt anyone. Hmm. Be nice and respect and make sure we be nice and respectful and upvote these, these financiers. Yeah. If we have a little knock, we were told the little bit of pain never hurt anyone. Be nice and respectful to people on your way up because you may need their help on your way back down. Yes. Never say I can have instead say I may have. I had an English teacher in high school who was my homeroom teacher all four years of my high school. So I saw her every day of my life. Wow. All the way through high school. And she was really fanatic about can and may. Can and may, yes. From Girl Scouts, leave a place better than you found it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Boy Scouts also. And then there's some good little conversations going on about that. Nice. Let me go over to my next one. Let's see. Share this tab instead. See, I messed up and didn't have this set up correctly for my screen. Aunt Gladys. I want gets nothing. Hmm. Yeah. Interesting. Trust but verify. I notice that we've got some stuff popping up. Go forward with grace and harmony is mom's word of wisdom. That's nice. Aunt Wendy never let the mere truth get in the way of a good story. I like how it was a lot. I like to embellish that stuff. That's great. Grandma didn't just sit in a chair. Grandma sat down in a rickety old chair that my great-granddaddy built back in. And Mina, whoever Mina is, I'd rather be an example to my grandchildren than an example for them. Oh. What is this? Never put two pounds of poop in a one pound bag. Oh. That is just gross to imagine. Yeah. Ben Gorley senior. Ben is still around. You should get in to come by and see that we just talked about that. Oh my goodness. I'm walking, doing, bending, stretching, vim, vigor, fitness. Oh. From dad, when in doubt, look it up. When unhappy, look up something new or something loved. That works. Interesting. Let's jump over to this one from my great-grandmother. This is Eric Weddington. Always buy a good bed and a pair of shoes. You'll always be in one or the other. What about a coffin? No. A crib? I guess that's the bed. I guess a coffin's a bed, too. Yeah. I pass this one down to my kids and grandkids when they want, speak up to tell me what they want. You snooze, you lose. Don't give past failures a second glance. Yeah. I'm waiting for the one to come up that my grandma used to always say. Of course, we have to have. Thank you, Jacqueline. You're welcome. The potato. Which means don't drop the potato. Is that a French saying? Have you ever heard that, Greg? I don't know. I imagine it sounds like something. Yeah. We have a French part of our family is French. I can hear them saying that. That kind of thing, yeah. From my maternal grandmother, always put a clean pair of underwear on. You have to change your. You never when you end up, know when you'll end up in the hospital. Okay. So there's another answer here where the person says that when they got picked up after an accident, they were in the ambulance on the way to the hospital could not stop laughing all the way to the hospital because I made my grandma proud. Oh, that's good. And then my other thought is is I have been in a horrible accident. And I can tell you from that experience that if you're in a really horrible accident, having clean underwear on does not matter because you're going to mess them anyway. Yeah. That's right. But my grandma used to say that all the time and slipped $20 into your pocket. Oh, yeah. For my grandmother, Paige, we're still seeing a couple screens ago. We still see the news. There we go. Thank you. Thank you very much. No problem. Victor is saying would like to be buried in a plain pine box or a wicker basket. I'm talking about your coffin. Yeah. And then Brian's telling a story over here. Can't go to the bathroom to which I replied. I don't know. Let me get my stopwatch out. I'm okay anyway. I'm talking about a work experience. Okay. Let's see. And I had a supervisor who told me and I used this saying recently in a meeting with friends that if you don't make mistakes, you'll never learn. I like that one a lot. I'm going over to another page here. Oops. Or I can just stop. I think I'm done. I'm done. There's lots more that are just very, if you can't make ends meet, make one of them a potato. What? That was from David Richter. Our conduct should be our coat of arms. That's a good one. Use it up, wear it out, or do without. Hmm. Interesting. Never eat yellow snow. Yes. That is good advice. Yes. Well, the profiles of the week because of the recent Pearl Harbor anniversary is which World War II hero are you most closely connected to? So these are very interesting stories. Except for one of them, I think they were all new to me. I was going to say only one of them has a boring story? No. Only one of the profiles is someone I'd heard of before or knew the story of before. Very interesting. The first one is Doris Miller. I had to do a double take because I presumed it was going to be a woman's not. It's a man. Doris, he went by Dory. Born the 12th of October 1919 in Waco, Texas, and he passed away on the 24th of November 1943 at only 24 in the Pacific Ocean. But he is part of the US Black History Project because he was a US Navy sailor and he was the very first African-American to be awarded the Navy's highest honor. The story is just fabulous. Yeah. He was in Pearl Harbor when it was under attack that day. He was on the ship. The USS West Virginia was struck by Japanese bombers in Pearl Harbor. He was a cook and worked in the mess attendant. He helped carry wounded men off the deck to get them safely below during the attack including his captain. Then he went up to the machine gun to start firing back at the Japanese bombers. What a great story. Yeah. He was awarded the Navy Cross for that presented to him by Admiral Chester Nimitz and there's a picture of him receiving the cross. Didn't they just name a boat? They named a boat African too. Yeah. Distinguished devotion. Despite enemy strafing and bombing in the face of serious fire assisted in moving his captain who had been mortally wounded to a place of greater safety and later manned and operated a machine gun directed at enemy Japanese attacking aircraft until ordered to leave the bridge. So he became renowned and was brought home. He was even put on posters to promote war bonds. But sadly he did not last the war because he died along with his shipmates on the USS Liscombe which was an escort carrier during the Battle of Macon in 1943. So that's sad that he passed away but what a legacy. Talk about it being a good person. Yeah. It's nice. An aircraft carrier was named after him and he was the first African-American that one of those had been named for so that's pretty amazing. It is amazing. Very good. Very impressive. Then we have Margaret Irene Anderson O'Brien and she's from Australia born on the 11th of December, 1915 in Melbourne which is in Victoria State, Australia and passed away at the age of 79 on the 16th of July 1995 in Frankston, Victoria. So she was the first born daughter of Charles Anderson and Jesse Urquhart known as MAG in her family and she was a nurse. She finished her nursing training in Heidelberg, Victoria and soon after completed the massage certificate. In 1941 she was commissioned as a staff nurse in the Australian Army Nursing Service and then she was transferred from the Malaysia to the 2nd Australian Imperial Forest for Overseas Service and so she went to work in Singapore and then just four days before the fall of the fortress she was one of a party of nurses who had to board the cargo ship to be evacuated before it was finally attacked. So she was on the MV Empire Star and then the next day another ship took the Vinerbrook, took the rest of the nurses, unfortunately that one did not fare well and most people on that either died at sea or were massacred later so she was lucky to get out on the one she was and the Empire Star that she was on really only had accommodation for 16 passengers but with all the personnel, the nurses and the wounded there was 2100 people on that boat. Wow! Can you imagine? I bet it was riding low in the water. Wow. But it was also attacked during its journey and during that she was helping move patients back and forth and at one point she threw herself across a patient to protect them from bullets. Can you imagine that? Any witness to her actions commended her for bravery and for that she actually was awarded the George Medal in September 1942 for bravery. Is that what GM is for her post-nomial? I'm wondering, yeah George Medal, I think so I could be wrong but I think that's probably what the GM is so and then she was promoted she received a commendation for that she was staff nurse Anderson and then she became lieutenant Anderson during the war and then she continued working with the sick afterwards after the war was over. She was placed on the reserve officers and she won a number of awards here the Pacific Star, Italy Star, British War Medal, Australia Service Medal and passed away in 1995 quite a remarkable person another remarkable person would be Margaret Osla Benning she was a Canadian debutante who worked at Bletchley Park decoding messages and was Prince Phillip's first girlfriend but this was before he met Elizabeth officially it's like oh that's right well they didn't actually I don't know when they started dating I don't know she met him when she was young I do know that that's true so they wouldn't have dated that yes that's right they did meet early I mean they were both descended from Queen Victoria so some family gathering they would have been at yes so this Margaret daughter of James William Benning and Edith Black was born and baptized in so she helped to build hurricane fighter planes as part of the war effort and she worked at Bletchley Park so that's the place where they were trying to decode all the messages so where the cryptographers worked and the coders and the ciphers the government code and cipher school that's one of those Canada moments they have these things that they show on TV every now and then that are like Canada moments where they show this really weird interesting bit of history of Canada just in the middle of where there should be a commercial and one of them is about Bletchley Park being so unassuming that everybody figured hey that's a great place to hide all of our spy people so Lord Mountbatten mentioned to Rand that Prince Philip so Lord Mountbatten it was Prince Philip's uncle that he didn't have a girlfriend and that's how she got introduced to him so some claim that's why she was the first girlfriend but because of her work during decoding that makes her not necessarily a spy but definitely a war hero for that and apparently there was a novel about Bletchley Park and there was one character that was based on her yay that's neat and then we went from Philip's first girlfriend at least supposedly to his mother nope that's not the mother there nope that is Victoria Alice Elizabeth yes this is her is that not is that yeah that's his mother that's Prince Philip's mother Princess Alice Princess Alice of Battenburg born in Windsor Castle a great grandmother go ahead did I have the wrong one you had it right but the wrong Victoria it's his great grandmother right Queen Victoria is her great grandmother or his great grandmother they're connected Queen Victoria is the both of theirs right this person this is Princess Alice but Victoria is just one of her names Victoria Alice Elizabeth Julia Maria Battenburg of Greece so she is actually if we take a look at it here um she shares the mitochondrial DNA of Princess of Queen Victoria because she the connection is all through the mother's line her mother Victoria and her mother Alice um and then there's Queen Victoria right there Murray's straightening us out on this she is the granddaughter of Victoria no I think it's great granddaughter oops yeah I thought it was great grand yeah but I thought it was interesting that she's related but it's a pure mitochondrial a pure it is that's kind of neat and don't we have Philips mitochondrial Philips used in helping to identify the Zars family I got to remember we need to go over to FT DNA and look at their discover yes and look and through and see who it was I bet they have that information well there's the MT there we go Philips mitochondrial DNA connection is there and there's Alexandra Fyodorovna there we go boom and we can do a comparison on my DNA there you go you can do that comparison you can very cool oh you should just go and do it you want me to do it? just do it you would click on compare and then click on this compare and then we hit compare then are you logged in? I will be shortly and there it is zero I can't blow that up some please so mitoydna.org is a place where you can share your YDNA and your mitochondrial DNA results sort of like Jedmatch but for YDNA and mitochondrial DNA and you can do that straight from the integration wiggy tree on the front wall which is what he just did but it shows that there are a difference there is a difference yes so why are they different but it shows off by because the top one is higher in the tree and the lower one is still a part of that branch but it's a different it's segmented off it's subclades of that branch but is it still close enough to call it a match? no no no that's interesting she has a lot more the second profile has more because it's lower down in the tree it has more insertions and deletions in the HBR1 and 2 and you can also see in the coding regions there's 7 even though that isn't publicly displayed mitoydna.org still gives you the information on what the coding regions are and that's at 7 there's a significant difference between those two yeah that's interesting that's an interesting question that I think I want to look into more how far down the tree and how many years apart and all that stuff yeah okay interesting okay well we took a little that was a very cool little detour there but so how is princess Alice who's prince philips mother and great-granddaughter of queen victoria herself how is she a war hero? well as it turns out she she married her husband was andrew of oldenburg who was from germany I believe prince hander yeah and they had four daughters and a son of course the son is philip the husband had left her and apparently was unfaithful and sadly Alice did not do well she suffered a nervous breakdown after that she was diagnosed with schizophrenia she was briefly in a sanatorium so she had a really hard time the four daughters all got married to german princes and prince philip was sent to England to be cared for by his uncle so that explains his close relationship with his uncle lord mount batten because he took care of him during that formative time during world war two Alice had moved to Athens she was living in downtown Athens and that's where she saved a jewish widow and two of her children from the death camps by hiding them in the top floor of her house she sheltered them for more than a year and by the end of the year war her husband had died she returned to England to attend her son's wedding to queen Elizabeth and then she joined a religious order a greek orthodox religious order the christian sisterhood of martha and mary which was a nursing order and so she attended the coronation of queen Elizabeth in her gray nuns habit which i thought was interesting then the greek family was expelled from because of a military coup in Greece and as she was part of the greek royal family she had to leave and that's where she went to buckingham palace the last couple years of her life with prince philip and queen elizabeth where she died in 69 but she was honored as a war hero given the title righteous among the nations and so for having having hidden that family in her house and yeah after the fact that was acknowledged so she had a hard life she had some difficult times so the interesting thing and then somewhere here uh yeah she was buried she wanted to be buried in Jerusalem so her remains were transferred to a crypt near the church in gisemini on the mount of allus that's interesting yeah moving on Henri Louis Henri estienne d'orvre okay i think benny just recognized that someone came home you heard the little bark so Henri was born in 1901 in the royal le boussaint in sainte-roise in france and passed away in 1941 only at the age of 40 in sainte-roise he was born to an old aristocratic family in prevence graduated from two prestigious military schools married in 1929 he was an officer in the french navy at the beginning of the world war two he refused the defeat of france and joined de Gaulle in london and then he was offered and accepted the direction of the naval forces of free france so he was part of the resistance he crossed the channel to organize a resistance network called nimrod which gathered precious information on the defense of forces unfortunately he was betrayed by a member of the network and was arrested sentenced to death and then executed with two of his fellow resistance so that's sad but he is at a memorial memorial of french resistance someone else who resisted during the war is was from norway born on the 1st of july 1895 in bestjagder and he died in 1942 at age 46 in oslo so he was a norwegian telegraph operator and resistance organizer during world war two he was known for helping establish both the civil resistance and the military intelligence operations in opposition to the nazi occupation of norway i didn't actually realize that the nazis had occupied part of norway during the war i didn't realize they'd gotten that far so that's that was news to me so he was born in fleckiford and his father was a telegraphist as well he got married in 1928 and then at the beginning of the war he worked for the telegraph board in oslo and then the germans began pressuring the norwegian parliament to depose the king, give them more power and he wrote a letter of objection to that the germans are in power today they can do as they please that's no shame to us but if we start if it is being assault does not break a people but betrayal can poison them so he didn't want the government to betray he was involved in legally distributing newspapers during the occupation and then the thing that got him in trouble was in 1942 another norwegian resistance member traveled back and forth between norway and england and he was the first one to actually parachute into the country like he conned his way back from england he jumped out of a plane and parachuted into norway and inar, our profile guy he hid him in his apartment but the police came in and wanted to take him away this is starheim the person who parachuted in and he said well i just have to use the bathroom and they find oh well he can't get out but they didn't know that a pile of clothes was hiding a sneak exit through the bathroom so he escaped to the window but inar not so quick he was taken away for helping and abetting and sadly he was tortured he was integrated for information but he decided that in order to avoid giving up his contact so he figured i guess he was worried that if they kept this torture that he was going to give up people's names so to avoid doing that he took his own life instead of giving up people's names some kind of sacrifice that is indeed so lots of interesting stories this week with all these programs nancy grace augusta wake forward acgm so there's that gm again george mettle maybe so she's from new zealand born on the 30th of august 1912 rose neith wellington new zealand she was a british agent during world war two and she became a leading figure in the french resistance while she worked she saved lives of numerous refugees and allied airmen she was one of the allies most decorated service women of the second world war and the gestapo's most wanted person they had a 5 million franc price on her head they called her the white mouse the white mouse yeah there she is she has some interesting quotes you know i like a good quote well yeah we have some good quotes already today i don't see why we women should just wave our men in a proud goodbye and then then knit them balaclavas well in there's a little hands on in that i have only one thing to say i killed a lot of germans and i'm only sure i didn't kill more oh wow yeah she wasn't yeah i was never afraid i was too busy to be afraid i was not a very nice person and it didn't put me off my breakfast wow anyway so she did marry she did get married and she ran away from home at 16 started working as a nurse and then she got a windfall of money she traveled the world again working as a journalist and one of her first assignments was to interview Adolf Hitler really you believe that? no so she actually met and interviewed Adolf Hitler but here's a quote that she said the stormtrooper said this is horrible they tied Jewish people up to massive wheels and they were rolling the wheels along and whipping the Jews i stood there and thought i don't know what i'll do about it but if i can do anything one day i will make sure i'm mine so this was something that was going on right in front of her when she went to talk to oh my gosh so this is back in the third so this is 32 right so right at the beginning of the first isn't that wow so she had she had a rationale for doing what she did and in terms of the resistance and helping people out i guess that really pissed her off it did apparently that was a very formative moment yeah yeah anyways the profile goes on and on this is really interesting so i would recommend people check this out and let me just okay maybe only on saturday morning do you get to watch the doorman at carlton your doorman anyway very interesting the white mouse well most wanted that's fascinating isn't that cool that's very cool then we have neil selvedor neil adams family selvedor also known as the queen and toffle so she was another spy wow we've got lots of spies world war two spy in the philippines and an actress singer and dancer so get this she was only born she was born in 32 so if you do the math you know when the first world war was thinking what how was that possible she was a pre-team so between the time she was 10 and 13 as a teen she served as a spy for the philippine resistance and she just ran messages back and forth wow i can understand that you wouldn't expect a cute little girl a cute little girl who's gonna so she ran a magic oh just some secrets there we go so but neil adams later then she moved after the war in 48 she moved to the united states she became a dancer you can see in an actress and she married steve mcqueen really yes yes there we go and if you go you do a search on youtube for neil adams because i did a search because i wanted to like how do you pronounce her name neil or is it nelly or neil it's neil and there's this one the first youtube video that pops up is this you know who's two guys looking at a poster who is neil adams oh well let me show you and then comes that and she's performing anyways it's kind of fun but there there we go neil adams ten-year-old spy then we have ral gustav wallenberg who's a cousin distant cousin but from stockham born the 4th of august 1912 and letting go of stockham in sweden and died in 47 in Moscow and he was also designated righteous among the nations for helping more than a hundred thousand jews survived during the holocaust good on you yeah yeah he served compulsory military service after high school and went to school in paris to study architecture he continued studies in michigan in the us hitchhiked across north america and then interesting in 1941 he watched the film scarlet pimper now and that inspired him to help people escape from the nazis now i haven't watched that film so i'm not sure what in what is the move the show is about that i have watched it but i couldn't tell you what it was so i'm not sure what part of the plot was an inspiration but it worked because then he went he was the first secretary to the swedish diplomatic mission and because of that diplomatic mission he was able to to do so he purchased buildings in budapest and cleared them swedish diplomatic properties so that means they couldn't be invaded or searched and so he was able to secure them as safe houses for jews that were fleeing the nazis he issued passports to hungarian jews to help them get out of hungry he actually physically handed out passports to jews who had already been arrested or in the middle of death marches wow the novel scarlet pimper now is set during the reign of terror following the start of the french revolution the title is the nom de guerre of its hero and protagonist a chivalrous englishman who rescues aristocrats before they are sent to the guillotine so that makes sense also in the back of my mind i keep thinking about why haven't we given a medal to harry at tubman yeah really and that interesting thought as we're talking about these heroes and what he said i'm thinking about american history why isn't there a medal on her chest that's a good point so he saved lots of people sadly the diplomatic community only went so far and he himself was arrested by the soviets for conspiring with the united states oh wow so he saved lots of people but he was taken off to Russia after the war and there he was in a soviet jail and either died in 45 if one radio station was right or more likely in 57 or more likely 47 that he was killed this is fascinating this is just really fascinating so there's a couple notes that 47 seems a more likely date that he was killed when he was in Lubyanka but they're not exactly sure so that's kind of interesting but it's sad that he did not he did not end his life did not end happily that way but man what a good stuff Susan Kady was born in 1915 in Los Angeles died on 24th of June 2015 at the age of 100 a centenarian we have here she's the third known child of An Chishon also known as An Chang-ho and they lived in Los Angeles her father died in 1938 after being arrested by the Japanese occupying Korea at the time so he had been transferred to the KGO Imperial University Hospital in 1940 the family had moved to Los Angeles or was in Los Angeles and then she enlisted in the United States Armed Forces after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and enrolled in the U.S. Naval Reserve Midshipman's School at Smith College became the first Asian-American woman in the Navy and also the first female Navy officer wow and then she passed away in 2015 just five months, eight days after her 100th birthday wow so there's a picture of her there lovely Hannah Lincoln love that is your that is your closest 21 degrees and of course it's going to go up through you're going to go up through your mom mama go okay so she received the rank of lieutenant or she's an American right, so lieutenant colonel noticed like the Australian was a lieutenant I didn't comment on it because you're Canadian exactly but she was a lieutenant colonel in the American Army she married Robert Love who was an Air Corps Reserve major they built their own aviation company so she was one of the she was a pilot she and her friend Betty Gillies were the first women to fly the Boeing B-17 flying fortress wow and they were set to ferry a B-17 named Queen Bee to England but their flight was cancelled so she was called to active duty as the munitions building she worked there for a bit and then eventually she was called up her they suggested that women could aircraft back and forth from the factories to the military airfields because they needed someone to take these planes there and so that's where she became part of that she was named commander that was a big deal because a lot of those aircraft hadn't been flight tested so it was a little scary that's right so she became part of the women's auxiliary ferry pilots and the women's Air Force service pilots the WASC as they were known and she was the first woman to be certified to fly the North American P-51 Mustang, the C-54 the B-25 Mitchell and along with Medigili is the B-17 flying fortress so those who know about military aircraft that may mean something P-51 was like a Mustang of the it was a it was a muscle car muscle car in the sky so after the war she continued to work on air transport instead of record for being the first woman in aviation to make a flight around the world so she did what Amelia Earhart was trying to do then I guess we don't have a lot of people saying who they're related to in the chat which surprises me I did post the day one says she loves Steve McQueen nice the last one is Captain Joseph John Rockford and he was born on the 12th of May 1900 in Dayton, Ohio passed away at the age of 76, July 1976 and that happens to be my closest we had to wait a long time for us yes we did sorry for that more cryptography more spy work here naval cryptographic and intelligence operations officer whose contributions were pivotal to the victory in the Pacific War in the World War II born in 1900 so he served in naval crypt analysis cryptanalyst cryptanalyst I think that's how you'd say cryptanalyst analyst on cryptography cryptographic analyst and that's not studying ancient Egypt crypts no not that type of crypt is that where that name came about because the cryptograms and stuff oh maybe yeah I don't know yes tell us the etymology of that one yes that's right oh there's another rabbit hole to jump down but I'm going to try we'll let one of our people in the chat jump down that rabbit hole I'm not going off on that one yeah that's right he served in station H station hypo for Hawaii in Pearl Harbor he was an expert Japanese linguist and that's not easy to do no and a trained cryptanalyst analyst but he was denied access to diplomatic messages sent in purple the highest level in the months before the Japanese attack I wonder if he had access if he could have prevented something on one verse interesting anyways his efforts were particularly useful in the battle of Midway and pivotal to their victory passed away in Los Angeles there we go and those are your profiles of the week very interesting stories yeah that is so good I really enjoy listening to you talk about the profile of you and Chris have a shared oh look look what is this what is this hi hi I just like your faces we are getting ready to share the last bit of information which has something to do with you would you rather talk about what is coming up in the week we have stuff coming up what is happening around December post what is happening around WikiTree we have a lot of stuff happening around WikiTree we are 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the links for sharing information for this week and you can also find out a little bit more information hollandback is our one name study of the week oh now okay schlechholstein is the one place study wonder where that is you got some germany somewhere project no case project so if you want to share any of these links and get the word out share some of your wiki tree love please do that see there's a new member q and a you can get that out so that is our did you want to actually say something or did you just actually come in and want to look pretty I'm just here to look pretty it's nice to have you a win yeah I just finished I just finished my semester so I'm like a little bit brain dead oh congratulations brain dead so she thought she came in with lots what does that say how many end-of-term essays did you have to do you guys just make me smile actually I have one more to finish today but I had a couple of my classes had projects for this week and then I had two finals and then I have a paper all right Lisa Gervais cryptology comes from the ancient Greek words for hidden or secret to write or study so to study hidden secrets thank you very much Lisa all right let's hit that thumbs up button like us people like us and we're going to say au revoir au revoir we bye fit again bye Allen bye