 The following is a presentation of T-F-N-N. Trade what you see with Larry Pezzavento. Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at 727-873-7618. Now, Larry Pezzavento. Okay folks, I think we're going to do this by telephone for a while here. And then we will, I'm doing this by phone instead of by Skype. I'll redo the Skype thing when we come on. Hopefully we'll have David Paul as our guest. Dr. David Paul at 9.30. He's a mathematician and psychologist. We helped mold Tom Hougard and he's quite, he's very entertaining and super nice guy. So hopefully we'll have him at 9.30. Also Tom is going to be a regular guest for us folks. I'm going to have him on probably every couple of weeks. I think for, you know, 20 minutes or so. And he can give you some things about the psychology that he works on. And he spends a great deal of time with the psychology. When he came here to visit me several times, he was, of course, Mark was working in the office here with us. And so he became very close with Mark. And also Paula. And so he really got involved in the psychology part of this. And went and spent time with some of the other famous psychologists here in the United States and then developed some of his own stuff. But he's a, he's really nice guy and hopefully we'll get some good stuff. He did offer a book. If you wanted it's Hello at TraderTom.com. And he will, he tells you pretty much what he does. And, but he's a, does great job. Let's move on here and talk about a couple of things. That dollar index has held that major, major support that we were looking at. We've had a nice rally off of it, but not much. I mean, it's still in the ballpark here where it can go either way. No question about it. So we'll watch that, you know, very, very closely to see if that's going to, to hold up pretty, pretty nicely. If you have any questions, folks, it's 877-927-6648. Now we want to cover some of the things that we usually look at here. We'll start off with the German DAX here this morning. This is the daily chart. I'll run through these charts because they're really quite nice. You can see we've made that three drive to a top pattern, but we also have that potential for an expansion up there to the 11-13,000 area. So it could easily do that without any trouble at all. If we take a look here at the FTSE, let's just get this up here and you'll be able to see it pretty much the same thing only looks like a Boris. His nickname over there is Boris Slippery Pig Johnson. I think that's not a very good nickname for someone, but they call him that because he always gets in and out of things without any trouble. So I don't know. But their political environment is about as messed up as ours is and that's saying a whole lot. So we'll take a look at some of these other charts instead of talking about politics, which is a total pain in the neck. I wanted to bring to your attention a couple of them here. This is the German Bund. Remember, we've been talking about waiting for this rally here in the Teflon Boris. That's about right, Marshall. Hold on a second. Get this up here. You'll be able to see here this is the German Bund. It's completing that little Gartley up here at the 78% level. We finally got a rally going here over the last four days in these bonds and notes. So they'll be able to find out. I don't know Jim. I don't think I'd put him in the same class as Old Slick Willie, but maybe so. Who knows? Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of men? All right, let's move on here to the old natural gas because we've had that pretty nice move here in this natural gas. We got up to the 230, which is good. And so if we can get above that 230 level, we've got a pretty good chance of moving it to the upside. So we'll watch that as we walk through this morning as we look at some of these other charts. I do want to mention, several people asked me about the work that I did on Apple. And I'll just bring this up again to show you because I think it's that important. You'll notice here the Apple had multiple ABCD patterns. There's also a three drive to a top that you can see very clearly from the end of the July to early September to where we are now. That red line up there, folks, that ABCD line came in at 242. The high yesterday was a 241.96. It closed at 239. It'll probably be up a little bit today, but that was a pretty good number. But that's not the important thing. I think the important thing is what these look like on a longer-term basis. If we look at Apple here on this weekly chart, it also is just an absolute perfect pattern, folks. If you like patterns, they don't get any better than this. And if you think that Apple doesn't work off Fibonacci numbers and patterns, here's the long-term. This goes back over the last seven years, and you'll be able to see all of the patterns that are there, all of the ABCD patterns. 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Alright folks, we're back and Tom Hougard is trying to call in Al so try to answer the phone because he's going to try to connect to see if we can clear up some of the problems that we have with him. So if Tom is in there, connect to us and see how the connection is because yesterday we had a lot of complaints about the quality of the sound and I could hear it too. It was scratchy, echo-y, rack, you know, all this stuff. Oh, good, good. You're in touch. Okay, let's move on and we'll get on to touch with these phones here. 877-927-6648. Have to love the technical pictures when you go through all of these things. The get into the gold market here. We're still in this area in the gold. I'll bring this up so you can take a quick look at it. You'll be able to see it here and you'll be able to see here that we, there's possibility we can get up here. We've been as high as that high last night. We got to 1498 again. So whether that gets through there up to the 1505, it's either here or there. We're treating it 1496 right now, but that's what it looks like it wants to do. Whether it does it or not, you know, remains to be seen. We will keep a close eye on that. I'd like to report something though that I think looks really interesting folks. We have been, you know, working with this trial thing with the folks here at TFNN on a trial basis to see how this artificial intelligence program has been working. And we've had some pretty good luck yesterday. It was just an absolute perfect day. It lined up everything really nicely and it was quite a nice fact. One of the ones that caught a lot of people, is we'll do the stock market one first and then you'll be able to see that this is what happened. Don't ask me to be involved in this folks because I've already got the few people that I wanted to try this out on just to see how it works, but that was the S&P and of course, here was the gold. The crude oil, for some reason, I can't find the crude oil one, but the reason why I'm bringing this up folks, we're doing a great deal of research trying to figure out some of these things for longer time frames and I want you to see this one. This was the one from last night that was quite interesting. It was a culmination of yesterday and last night but let me get this up here so you can take a look at it. What we did is we extended it out from two minutes to 10 minutes and you'll see all those little wavy lines and those are just the different time frames that we're putting in to get to that spot but the first run of it looks really interesting. My good plan is if this works out for the next month and these folks can use it then we're going to offer it here at TFNN would be my guess so we'll see if it does. But right now it's only for day trading folks. It's not for anything other than that so pay close attention to it because we might be coming out into the future who knows or not. Now the crude oil market, the crude oil market is still under pressure folks. This thing should be going up and it's not. That's a very, very bad sign. We've got this Aramco deal coming up in a few weeks and they want to get oil above $60 a barrel they can hardly give it above $54. So that's not a good sign. This market is not bouncing off those lows like you should. When you usually make a cycle low you have a pretty good move off the bottom so that's the main thing. Someone asked a question. Who did I introduce Tom Hougard to over the years? Just about everybody. It was really just about everybody but we went to see just about everyone I think. My goodness I don't think we missed anybody. We had a lot of fun anyway. We saw just a whole lot of folks but Tom's a really nice guy and he's super humble which is good and David Paul is the same way. David will be on here in about eight minutes and we'll be able to chat with him about some of the things that he helped Tom with because it was certainly a big help for him. We've already talked to folks. The natural gas looks really good. All we need to do is get it above 235 today and it could be on its way. We held the 225 level. We went down a little bit below it 222 so it's acting pretty nicely so far so pay close attention to that. Another one that we worked on that's still working but not very well. It's still up a few hundred dollars and that is this Canadian dollar. This is held up relatively well. Your risk on that Canadian dollar trade now if you happen to be in it should only be about 150 dollars folks. That would be the maximum that you would want to risk. You wouldn't want to risk any more than that because that is the it should stop right there. Otherwise you wouldn't think it would be any good at all. How far are the bonds going to rally? Folks I don't know but nobody else does either. Remember we had a big move up in that thing and yet when it came down we've been down here now for eight or nine days and the market won't rally very much. That's telling you that interest rates have a tendency to go higher not lower just totally the opposite of what they're telling us in the news. That's not a good sign. So let's remember that. That's very important. Whether that relates to the US dollar or not I'm not sure but nobody else is either. I'm just looking at the charts. That's really all I'm looking at. There's nothing else more than that. Now there's another someone brought a real interesting chart to my attention and I updated it this morning and that is for the Christmas corn the December corn. What is the one three five on 60-minute Marshall? Terry has just posted a link to the Tom Hougard video which is good. That's not the video for the Canadian dollar. Yes it is. It is a one three five on a 60-minute so that's acting pretty good too. Let's move up to take a look at this corn because we were in an area here around this 382 level in corn that December corn should hold 382 if it's any good at all. Now remember in the soybeans we completed major ABCDs up there and it's backed off about 18 cents from that high. So that tells you that that ABCD was pretty much spot on and if you'll also remember we were talking about the the soybean oil that December soybean oil and there was one that you could almost write a textbook about too because we went exactly up to that 3090 level and we turned down quickly so it's only down $300 from the high but you know at least these patterns are lining up pretty nicely so that's the main thing to pay attention to. People have asked me about the Brexit thing and what I think will happen folks I have no idea. All I know is that back in January, June of 2017 when the pound was at 150 it was completing all kinds of patterns up there at 61% retracement of previous highs, ABCDs and it said to go short into that Brexit vote and the vote was supposed to be 9 to 1 to stay in and it just reversed it went the other way and that's what caused that monster move. When you have these that's what's happening now if something happens really crazy with this and I don't know if it will or not there's a possibility that we've talked about here that we can make 134 in the British pound there's a possibility that now whether it happens or not no one knows but you know what I say you know no one knows for sure anyway so we'll pay a close attention to that as we look at some of these charts and then hopefully Al will have Mr. Dr. David Paul on the line and we'll be able there's David with his Mr. Google boy I'll tell you David you won Smart Puppy. 877-927-6648 this will be up to the date active trading information that will help you in your daily trading in Larry's first week alone he sent out 25 charts 6 videos and a full report to his subscribers in just one week if you're a technical trader that uses patterns and retracement to trade then Larry's service Fibonacci 24-7 is something that you must try right now new subscribers can get a full 30-day 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that's my 2 cents worth my friend I'm not involved with it so my opinion means what you pay for it which is a little less than 2 cents so let's remember that rather important to do that folks some people have asked me questions about liquidity of some of these markets that we trade and there's you know there's been a lot of things published about this stuff over the years commodity stocks and commodities magazines always gives the futures liquidity but some of the better ones are you know the S&P 500 the 10 year note crude oil the Russell you know the Dow Jones E-mini is down there quite a ways but there's natural gas is pretty good but just remember that these things they trade electronically now so there's really no pit trading at all anymore so when you're trading you're trading against yourself when you look at that machine that machine is a mirror and it's going to mirror any of the psychological imperfections that you might have and I know all of us have those the $64 question is how often do they raise their you know raise their head if you remember yesterday when Tom was on he said the one thing that you absolutely cannot do if you're trading and that is to add to a losing position he makes all of his money folks by adding to winners and he adds heavily when a trend starts he gets on it and he rides that puppy until it's until that horse is out of the stable if you can get my drift so that's what he really does so you know he's if you get his book you'll read it and you'll see what he's done but he's been just been incredibly successful in fact I have to put him in the same category as Amos Hostetter and they're my good friend from the Super Traders Almanac and I wish I could remember his name I'm sitting here looking at it right now and by Frank Towsher and I he's definitely in that he he he's adding he doesn't add he adding to a losing position oh my gosh let me let's go through that's a really good question you're asking here the question is how does adding to a losing position different from dollar-cost averaging there is no difference that's exactly what adding to a losing position is dollar-cost averaging now you know people will say that's in a big bull market big bull market like we've had since 2009 it's certainly you know it it may be it may be okay but what he's saying is and folks I can tell you this right now and I've been trading for 60 years a number of times that I've added to a loser and have made money on it you could count on one hand and I'm talking five fingers I mean and I don't think I have to use for those fingers I don't ever remember it I remember I don't ever remember it at all I remember walking around the lake at Westlake Village in the 1970 73 no it was 74 when I was on the when the market had already turned on me and I didn't know it I'd still had a huge amount of capital and I had a weak position on that I was out about 20 cents and I I bought some more because it looked like a great buy you know it was right at an 18-day cycle and I bought it and so I doubled my position in the wheat and boy for three days gosh did that look good how smart I was and I was now back into a big profit and then the next day the news came out it took out those lows and we kept dropping and dropping and what did I do I was sitting there with my hands on my on my buttocks not doing anything and that's what cost it dollar cost to average is for stock you could do it also for futures too Marshall I don't think there's any difference because it's just an asset so I'm sure you can do dollar cost to average for futures I think the guys at the the turtles did that for a while once they once those four week moving average things turned you know and those things worked for a while I don't know if there's any turtles still around or not but I don't even know what happened to Richard Dennis I don't know if he's still alive or not haven't heard from him in 25 years I don't really know this is a very pleasant day here in Tucson for us we have some of our very dear friends from Palm Springs California coming in to visit us Peter and Linda and we had dinner with them last night much like we do with you Marshall when you were here Peter comes in every couple of years for a little reboot just to sit here and chat see the markets but he's a very successful businessman that also trades is getting into that retirement age and he wants to once they start trading more actively and with more with more size so I'm going to try to give him an idea of what Tom's doing on some of these things to get a better idea alright let's move on here and take a look at a couple of things we got the Canadian Dollar trade I'll bring it up for you folks I don't know what else to say other than this is where we were on this is where we were last week waiting for it to come down and we got down to 3070 13070 we're trading above that right now and so that's something to take a look at so yes gold is in a really tight move here and if we can let's get this puppy moving that gold is moving nicely we're dang it in there alright gold's doing okay gold's doing nice we just took out that watch 1503 in the gold folks we might get up there at around 1503 in the gold it would be very interesting to see if it can get into that ballpark or not so we'll pay close just for just for little kicks and giggles I'll just bring this up here and show you what I was looking at for this morning let's just get this up here and you think artificial intelligence sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but today's one of those times I ended up buying the darn thing here just a minute ago and it's put that up here so we can see it that we should go up until 1230 so watch 1230 if you have any idea of what you know what's going on with some of these charts that we're paying attention to each day okay let's see what else someone else no other questions today boys and girls it would really help the old cowboy if you if you throw some 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He gives you too much credit, so go ahead, my friend. All right. Well, folks, I've got a PhD in mechanical engineering, a PhD in mathematics, first degrees in mechanical engineering. Prior to that, I was a Royal Marine Officer, and I went to South Africa in 1981 from London to play rugby, to play professional rugby, and I worked for De Beers, the diamond people at the time, and I was billeted into an office with an old fellow. He was doing something very strange every morning. Every morning by hand, he would update 50 or 60 shares that he was following on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange, and he was making good money. He was trading primarily technically, and I started to do the same, and I put on my first trade in October 1982. I traded while working at De Beers until 1988, and then I cut the corporate umbilical cord, and I've been trading on my own ever since. Over the last, I think for the first 20 or so years, Larry, I was purely a technical trader, and I did my best to try and keep the fundamentals of the stock market under control using William O'Neill's cancelling methodology, but I didn't have the skills, and I didn't have the time, and I didn't have the inclination, so in the first years I traded pretty much just technically, and did fine. Then I tripped over the VectiVest program about 10 years ago that does all the fundamentals for you. I originally represented VectiVest in South Africa, and then they asked me, my son and I built it up from nothing in South Africa, and they asked me to do the same thing in the UK. Three years or so ago, I came home to London, and I've been working with retail traders here in London, showing them how to actually put technical analysis together in the very, very best shares, shares that are growing their earnings strongly and safely, so that's what I'm doing these days. I've managed money professionally in South Africa for quite a long time, but at the moment my objective, sir, is to be making a good, in my dotage, to make a good living out of swing trading in the stock market, and I day trade when I feel like it. I day traded yesterday, I'll see what I feel like this afternoon. I've got a bit of a cold on me today, and I think as you know better than anybody, you've got to be feeling good to take the people on in the afternoon. Our afternoon, your morning, should I say. So I've been in Marketsons since 1982, I've done training for pretty much all the banks around the world, especially in Southeast Asia, all over Africa. If you can find any small little place in Africa I haven't been there, I'd be surprised. So Tom came to one of my seminars a way back in St. Jamesburg, 10 or 12 years ago, and we struck up a friendship, and we worked together at the Which Way Today Live training room for a long time. We nearly killed ourselves in there. I remember. Yeah. So at the moment I'm quite happy to try and focus on making a really good living trading markets on my own, okay? So that's what I do. So I put together a, can you see the slide, Larry? I don't know if we can or not. I think Al will be able to tell us if we can or not. Yeah, he does see it. Yep. We, I think, yeah, we can see it. The reason that, the slide is entitled Why Is This So Darn Difficult? And the reason is these clusters that we have now, if you've got a trend following system, you mentioned the turtles a moment ago, the breakout system, any breakout system or simple moving average crossing system, you're going to be really lucky if you've got a 50% hit rate. Depends very much where you put your stop. It depends very much. I know where you, in fact, put your target. But if you've got a trading system that makes more when it's right than it loses when it's wrong, a positive expectancy system, as a trend follower, you're going to be really lucky if you're right half the time. That means that you get a bad one every two trades. And as I've gotten the slide there, you get six, you get four bad ones in a row every 16, five bad ones in a row every 32 trades. That is a mathematical certainty. And if you, in fact, are dumb enough to bet 20% of your kitty on any one trade, you go bankrupt every five. How's that? So, and many people, of course, do this, and I see it all the time. I see it all the time. So at Victor Vest here in the UK, I spent, I would think, about half my time reinforcing position sizing and talking and talking about Ralph Vince and Ralph Vince's work. Did you know Ralph Vince? Yes, of course I do. Yes, he's a nice fellow, very bright fellow, of course. Very bright fellow, that's for sure. Now, if you can push your hit rate up a little bit to 66 out of 100, in other words, you're wrong, one out of three. You only got to handle five clusters in a row, five bad ones in a row every 250 trades, and if you can push your hit rate up to mystical levels, eight out of 10, then you only have to handle five bad ones every 3,000 trades. So if you can sit in your hands and wait for those plums of opportunity to come along, then emotionally, the business becomes an awful lot easier. But doing nothing, as I keep preaching to the Victor Vest people, doing nothing is much, much more difficult than it would seem. So now, where what I spoke to Tom about 10 or 13 years ago came from a course that it didn't gambling, believe it or not. It was called a Vegas MBA and the chap who was running it said that if you can look Vegas straight in the eye, well, making money in business is going to be a piece of cake. So we went off to Vegas for two weeks to gamble and to learn how to gamble professionally. It was great fun. It really was great fun. On the left wheel, as you know, there are red and black, the same number of reds and blacks, and there's a little white ball. In England, we've only got one white ball. I believe you've got two across there. And that's the house edge. That's the spread. But if you stand at that roulette wheel and you have a quick look, you'll see that there's long runs of blacks and long runs of reds, exactly what I've just tried to show in this particular slide. Dave, stay with us here for one second. We've got to take a break. Okay, my friend. Thank you. You bet. I'm certain you are or strive to be one of the best of the best at everything you do in life. It's the most common trait that we tigers and tigers share. 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For more information, just click the Think or Swim banner on the front page of TFNN.com. Okay, we're back, folks. We're talking with Dr. David Paul. You want to continue on about the Las Vegas experiment, Dr. Dave? Yeah, sure, Larry. And it's very kind of you to play land of hope and glory just for me there, sir. I was very kind. So I wanted to ask you, since we were late getting on today, could you come on next week? Maybe on one day this, you know, so we can talk about that heads, tails experiment that I really enjoyed so much. Yeah, by all means. By all means, it'd be a pleasure. Let me know what day fits in. Go ahead and continue, please. All right. Well, the clusters are real, folks. And the first thing about the clusters is you got to, in fact, live through, and that's a trading record of one of the best traders I know in the city of London. He manages billions of pounds. And as you can see, at least I hope you can see, long runs of greens, and then you've got a few reds. He's got a 66% hit rate. This guy makes a lot of money trades huge positions in bonds, stock indices, oil and gold, and he's up 42% for huge account. That was till we did our seminar together. So the first thing about the clusters is to get through them mathematically that you don't go broke in them. And of course, the second thing about the clusters is to try and get your way through them emotionally, putting your trading system into practice. Perfectly. After three or four bad ones, it takes a great deal of what I call Larry, to stick your fortitude, sir. So 50% hit rate is good. And I don't care what methodology you've got, folks, every now and then that market's just going to go in to a complete knot, and you'll be lucky if you get a 50% hit rate. So this is what how Tom and I got started in this, folks. If you look at a Martin Gale system, which is a system every time you win, you put the same battle on. So if you're playing roulette and you win, you put a $10 baton red, and you win, you get $10 and you put the same battle on Dave, we've got to we've got to leave now and time separate. We'll get you next week. Okay. And continue on. This is really great stuff, Dave. Thank you so much. You bet. Sorry, David. You bet from the UK. We'll be back with him next week. See you all tomorrow, folks.