 So we're going to have a hamburger. Oh really? You should try a vegan burger. It doesn't contain the dead body of an animal. But how much for the horse? Lord of the Fries is vegan. It's just down the road. Do you like hamburgers more than you like animals? Yes. Oh really? Okay. That's fine. What are we here for? We're showing people images from inside these places and we're asking people to eliminate these animals from their lifestyle and not to eat them or wear them. It means that we don't eat animals or anything that comes from an animal? Yeah. Are your parents around or? Yeah. Okay. We just have these weird things in here. There's people lying on the ground. Yeah. Oh that's right. The human meat thing. How are you going man? I'm right man. We're just saying from the animal's perspective they don't want to be abused or killed. So yeah this is how animals get hurt in the up. So we can eat them? So we can eat meat and stuff like that? Get anything from it or? I don't eat this much meat anymore. You've sort of been conscious of it? Yeah I am conscious of it. You sort of know more than others about it now. You see that it's an animal now. Yeah it's not a good dessert. Nah. It's good man. You ever thinking about going vegan or? Oh yeah. How old is it? I can go vegan. I'm 15. 15. We don't have to eat salad man. Lord of the Fries is on Highly Street have you been there? Yeah I've seen that they have. Lord of the Fries is all vegan. So you can get your burgers and get your hot dogs here in the city especially. Get your pizza. I have to have a look before I get dinner. Later on I'll have to go there you know. Yeah instead of McDonald's bro. I think I've got the frozen clothes. I'm vegetarian. Oh okay yeah. You're not vegan are you? Vegan is different to vegetarian. I know you're vegetarian. It's sort of a stance against animal cruelty and vegetarians more of a diet just excludes me. Are you against animal cruelty? Yes. Absolutely. Yeah animal rights we're here for. That's what veganism is. It's not a diet. So are you me right? No no no no. No I don't want to watch that. Because this is the meat industry. This is the dairy industry. This is the egg industry. I love meat. Yeah but we don't see that. I'm against animal cruelty. Yeah that's what we're trying to say. People are against animal cruelty so it's sort of like I used to love eating meat too but then when I realised that I was causing it by eating it then I had to change my lifestyle. So can one person make a difference? Yeah well you can save. If you don't eat animals how many animals don't go to slaughterhouse? If you don't eat the milk that comes out in their bodies how many baby calves don't get killed? Can't even move. That's okay. You don't miss out on anything. We've got burgers. We've still got hot dogs. We've still got cheese. We've still got vegan milk. Ice cream. Or vegan milk. We need to be confronted by what animal cruelty goes on. And even if they treated their animals nicely they still send them to the slaughterhouse. They're still killed the same way. They're still killed the same way. We eat vegan meat. We have alternatives now. We have choices. There's no reason. There's beans, pasta, vegetables, fruit. Even milk, cheese, egg. A lot of people don't know that male baby chicks are all... A lot of people don't know that the male baby chicks are separated and they're ground up alive. My brother is a dairy farmer. So eggs and cheese and dairy and leather and things like that. We don't see it clear of anything that animals had to be exploited for and we know that we're doing the best we can to reduce the suffering. As a human being living on this planet, we cannot eliminate... So nothing that you're wearing has got leather on it? No, no, no. No leather. No, no, no. No, these shoes aren't leather. I'm just saying. Boo. No, that's a valid argument. I'm just saying that. That's a valid argument. I would really love to be a vegan. I would really love to be a vegan. I'm not saying that I... But it's really... You raised a good point. It's a really hard... You know, it's a... It's not hard, but it is hard, but it's some... What's hard about it, do you know? It's an effort to do that. And you have to be really committed to do that. We use animals as motivation. We wouldn't want to be put in those conditions or used for our bodies. So we don't think it's right to do it to another. We're really sad about it. I know, but I'm really sad about it. Thank you. Take care. No worries. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you. Activists, they go in, leave cameras, bring the footage out because the most public's never going to see it. It happens behind closed doors, you know. The industry keep it a secret. They want people buying their product to keep them thinking it's humane, you know. But obviously... Well, it's not obvious, but, you know, if you put yourself in the animal's position, nothing like that would do to animals could be considered humane. So... Or a dog, if you put dogs in their position, you know. So you're totally against this? Yeah, yeah. Well, this is vegan. Veganism. Is there a humane way of doing it? Well... Do you think there's a humane way to take... Well, let's just say the animal has an interest... I like bacon. Yeah. You like bacon? It's delicious. I know what you're saying. Like, okay, let's just say dog meat tastes delicious, but, like, would that justify... Like, just because it tastes delicious, would that justify taking the dog's life or putting the dog in a gas chamber or whole gunning a dog in the head? There's a humane way. A lot of people don't know why we get a dog meat. The dog has an interest in living, so how is it humane to take its life from it? Yeah, I know what you're saying. I just... I just couldn't eat vegetables all my life. Oh, well, we have bacon too. We have bacon, burgers, ice cream. We have vegan chicken, vegan chicken nuggets, vegan hot dogs. We have all the good stuff now. It's 2017. We've been doing this for a long time. They've really got it down to a T now. So you're not missing out on anything. That's our point. Like, we're saying you don't need it for health. You don't need it to... You know, we have alternatives now. So what have you... When you say you've got... How would you do a hamburger? Well, we've got vegan. A hamburger? Oh, dude, there's... One of the best places to order the fries is just on High Street. It's all vegan. Like, they're making it out of, you know, you know, plants now. You know, pea protein or soy protein or rice protein, wheat protein. They're just extracting the protein out of the plants. They make it into a burger patty and it tastes the same. You're not missing any taste. What do you think? It's pretty disgusting. But like, I'm vegetarian and I'm trying to go vegan. Really? Yeah. Wow. And what's... Cheese? Cheese, though. I know. Wow. And you know what? That is a very... It's not a justified reason for hurting animals, but the reason cheese is so addictive is because it contains queso-morphine, which is a casein protein in the milk, which helps the baby calf return back to the breast and it makes them feel comforted and drowsy after feeding on the breast milk. So it contains an actual an opiate-like substance, which makes it addictive. And because cheese is concentrated dairy, it contains higher concentration of queso-morphine, which is why it gives you such a pleasure response. Now, how do you combat that issue? We've got vegan cheese. It's not the same. Which one have you tried? A couple of different ones. I need to guess. What about... What about Woolworths? Have you tried Biocheddar? No. Biocheddar is very close and it's... They're vegan-fedder. Yes, everything vegan. Goodwood Road. You can get vegan-fedder. There are substitutes, but what we get people to try to focus on, not what you're gonna miss out on, but what you're gonna gain. So dairy cheese is probably one of the, if not the most unhealthiest food you can eat. It's just coagulated cow pus and saturated fat. You know how much pus is in milk, yeah? I think it's something like 400,000 units of pus per cc of milk in Australia. That's regulation stuff. Because they can't... They don't pour the pus out. All they do is pasteurize the pus. So it's just cooked pus. It's just unhealthy. It's not good for anything, really. And when you think about it, like if you've seen the bacon from Piglet, raised, pushed into a gas chamber in fear and then you've seen it sliced up into bacon, would you really want to eat that suffering? Yeah, no, no, no. That's exactly it. I don't want to. They package it. You buy it as a package and you're completely detached from where it comes from, you know what I mean? That's why you like it. I like taste the bacon. But you know, now it's like well, I see it for what it is and I know that by buying the bacon I'm putting that pig in the gas chamber. You know, and there's alternatives and you know, bacon obviously is a group one carcinogen in the same category as cigarette smoking and asbestos. So it's not good for our health anyway. We only do it for one reason. Taste. That's it. Because it tastes good. Yeah, no, I struggled with it. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, no different to what I was three years ago. I had massive T-bone steaks all the time and you know, I was completely, I just... What about when it comes to milk and such? Do you guys stand on that? Well, I would ask from an ethical standpoint to give up the milk and the eggs first because they're just, they're horrific industries. I'm not saying that they're... Eggs, eggs I get with the battery. If you've got your own chips at home, do you guys see that as a problem? We have this discussion with people who have gone vegan. So they've eliminated the meat, the milk, the eggs, all the testing on animals from their life and then they're like, oh, I've got backyard hens. Is it ethical? Then it becomes more complicated. But if people are still consuming steak, chicken, bacon, why would we have the discussion of backyard hens if we haven't even got, you know, to that point yet? And everyone, seven billion people on Earth, we've got seven billion backyard hens. It's just not sustainable. And we also look at it like we're still viewing the chicken as a product, a source for... We're still exploiting a chicken. Would we want backyard hens if they were just our companion? Are the chickens interested in our heart or do we just want something that comes out of their body? Yeah, I mean, we have them as pets. So would you have the chicken pets if they didn't lay eggs? Yeah, we do, because I was gone off, so we just can't kill them. Why can't you kill them? It's natural, yeah? Because they're my pets. You think the birds have moral value? Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, we're animal lovers. Dogs, cats. I only really eat... I eat eggs for them from my auntie's farm. She just has chicken fillet back there. So if you're at a restaurant and they've got egg in the food, you won't eat it? I don't know what is what. It's everything. All you three made stuff. Eggs and everything, most of the time. Veganism is really easy to do. Once you know and it feels good knowing that you're not putting a food that had an extreme amount of suffering and violence to produce, like dairy belongs to the baby calf. And they take the baby calf away so we can take the milk. And the mother's obviously distressed. The calf is distressed up to the point it's bulgur and chopped up for veal. So because the dairy industry exists, the veal industry exists, so, you know, and... Oh yeah, we don't try. At least... You're making your way there, which is great. It's quite shocking. I always make my friends watch Casperity and they hate me very much. That's awesome. So awesome. There's another one called What the Health which has just come out. We don't argue from a health standpoint. It's not about health to be ethical to animals but it is a very strong argument because people will use health as an excuse to keep being feeding. How good is that? But there's no reason for it. You would probably notice. There's no biological reason to eat meat. I don't know. Yeah, I find that... Do you think there's humane places that kill their animals humanely and do you think that exists? Or do you think it's just a marketing ploy to get us to buy it? Is it free range? I don't think there is any way. My father was in the Appalachian for 30 years and every day he was there. He took me and my brothers through just to see this is what happens. This is where your food comes from. So from a farmer's point of view as well, he saw animals as a commodity. The same way, not saying that your father's person at all, but in the same way that we used to view human beings as commodities that were different to us. We'd keep them as slaves but we'd have humane slave owners. We treated their slaves really good. But we understand now that slavery is immoral. Because we look at it from the individual's point of view we understand that. So we look at it from the animal's perspective even though it could be a source of income but there's plants we could farm as well and I know that farmers and animals really good. I'm not doubting that for a second but the minute they get on that truck and go to the slaughterhouse what happens to them? It's out of the farmer's hands and they're sending them there. So that's it. It's an interesting concept. Have a look into it. Thanks mate. You've obviously decided to make a stand. The power is in our hands as consumers because if we stop buying it they stop doing that to animals. It's literally that simple. They're not employing you psychos to do this to a picture. I think now I go to my friends because they're like vegan vegetarians trying to force us to be and we're like yeah but both cause the whole meat section they're like hogs with kefir. We're forcing our opinions down people's throats and then I'm like yeah. We're only standing up for animals. Their food choices are forcing animals into a gas chamber and they're forcing their opinions and we're just standing up for them and speaking out for them because they can't say anything. They trust us. We do this to them. We betray them on every level. We heard them. We feed them. They're friends and we send them on a truck and we send them to...