 Jadi, Scamber dari U.S. saya menunggu U.S. WorkCamp. Dan saya rasa... Jadi, hari ini, apa yang boleh saya katakan adalah tentang pengalaman saya di WorkCamp. Dan sedikit tentang bergerak ke depan, apa yang akan berlaku dan apa yang akan berlaku untuk anda. Jadi, boleh saya tanya, bagaimana banyak penonton anda adalah penonton besar di WorkCamp? Saya sangat suka WorkCamp. Saya gembira berjumpa dengan terbaik. Bagus, saya suka. Jadi, jika anda tidak dengar, WorkCamp telah menjadikan perniagaan 25 persen. Maksudnya, anda boleh beritahu kawan anda, 1 dari 4 website di dunia adalah kuat oleh WorkCamp. Itu adalah pelanggan dan pelanggan dari perniagaan. Jadi, apa yang berlaku di WorkCamp? Ini sebuah nama yang menarik. Pertama, saya dengar tentang WorkCamp memikirkan penonton dan bercakap tentang kota. Kemudian saya faham, ini sebuah nama yang menarik untuk perniagaan kami. Jadi, ini sebuah perniagaan yang benar-benar bercakap tentang apa-apa yang berlaku di WorkCamp. Sebelum saya memperkenalkan ke dalam WorkCamp, setiap tahun saya belajar sekitar 3 tahun yang lalu, ada perniagaan di komuniti WorkCamp di mana perniagaan perniagaan berada. Kemudian kita berbincang tentang apa yang WorkCamp berlaku di tahun depan. Apa yang berlaku di WorkCamp dan apa yang kita boleh lakukan untuk menggabungi perniagaan lain 75%? Jadi, ini adalah beberapa orang yang menarik di sana. Kita berada di situasi dalam pilihan ini. Jadi, ada sekitar 50 orang di sana. Sebenarnya, perniagaan terdapat lebih besar daripada 50 orang. Tapi saya rasa tiada orang yang mahu mempunyai banyak duit untuk berjalan ke USA. Jadi, komuniti saya membuat sebuah event selamat. Jadi, saya tidak dapat berbincang tentang apa yang kita telah berbincang. Tapi, saya boleh beritahu kamu beberapa perkara yang menarik di komuniti. Jadi, pada akhirnya, ini adalah perniagaan yang berada di sana. Saya di sini. Dan ada matahari. Dan beberapa perkara yang mempunyai perniagaan yang lain. Jadi, ini sebenarnya sebuah gambar. Selepas dua hari pilihan tentang perkara yang menarik, apa yang kita boleh lakukan sebagai perniagaan perniagaan untuk berhati-hati oleh komuniti PHP? Dan apa yang kita boleh lakukan untuk membuatnya lebih mudah untuk penggunaan? Sebelum saya pergi ke lebih banyak gambar, apabila saya berfikir, apa yang boleh saya bincang tentang WorkCam? Saya boleh beritahu kamu semua perkara tech dan ia akan membuangkan perniagaan dari semua orang. Jadi, apa yang saya benar-benar akan bercakap tentang, jika kamu mengambil perniagaan software, perniagaan tech dari Wordpress, apa yang betul-betul seluruh kamu berdua? Ia bukan perniagaan tech. Ia tentang komuniti, ekosistem. Jadi, ini adalah apa yang saya akan fokuskan pada pilihan hari ini. Jadi, WorkCam US telah membantu di Philadelphia. Ia adalah sebuah tempat yang bagus. Dan saya beritahu bahawa saya sepatutnya mempunyai banyak gambar yang bagus. Jadi, di sini ada semua gambar yang bagus. Jadi, sebuah tempat yang mempunyai perniagaan di within museum ini. Saya ingin tahu bahawa saya bukan seorang penuh, walaupun saya membuat perniagaan komuniti. Saya ingin tahu bahawa perniagaan ini sebenarnya bukan sebuah statu unik, bukan sebuah perkara unik. Jadi, ini sebenarnya sekitar 12 daripada mereka lebih besar. Ini adalah perniagaan medium, atau perniagaan besar yang lebih besar. Ini adalah sebuah perniagaan yang lebih besar. Pilihan di U.S. adalah besar. Saya tak pernah dapat selesaikan mereka, semoga awak dapat makan malam atau beberapa pisar. Jadi, ini adalah Filadofia. Ini adalah perniagaan, tapi saya tak ingat mana perniagaan ini. Jadi, jika anda tahu, anda boleh beritahu saya. Tapi, ini sebenarnya sederhana di Citi Hock. Jadi, kami mempunyai perniagaan di penerbangan Selavanian, yang juga adalah perniagaan Filadofia. Ia besar. Ia sekitar 3.25 dolar dari ekspor Singapura dengan semua pilihan 6.00 dolar. Tempat ini mempunyai sekitar 4 pilihan. Mereka dibuat secara separat dan berkumpul bersama-sama. Jadi, kami berada di penerbangan Selavanian. Ia sedang beritahu anda sebuah pilihan di U.S. Tetapi, ingatkan 1,800 orang. Jadi, sekitar 600 kali pilihan perniagaan ini. Nampak semua pilihan dan ingatkan 2 pilihan yang lebih besar dan mereka semua bergerak. Jadi, itu sebarang orang. Orang yang suka bekerja. Pilihan, pilihan, pilihan, blogger, dan sebagainya. Jadi, Oh, mereka bergerak. Saya cuba menunjukkan bahawa ada banyak orang. Jadi, apabila pilihan selesai, banyak orang bergerak. Ini biasanya pilihan dan mereka bercakap bersama-sama, dan sebagainya. Kemudian, di sana, ada banyak pilihan yang sebenarnya membuat kerja berlaku. Jadi, kami mempunyai pilihan pilihan, pilihan pilihan, pilihan pilihan, sedikit lagi, dan sebagainya. Bagi anda, pada akhirnya, kami menjelaskan pilihan supaya ia boleh memulai lebih banyak pilihan. Jadi, perkara yang baik yang saya ingin berkongsi dengan anda adalah pilihan yang ada, jika anda pernah berada pada banyak-banyak pilihan, siapa yang akan berkongsi saya minta maaf untuk berkata, siapa yang akan berkongsi pilihan Pilihan Cina setiap tahun, Pilihan SME. Jadi, mereka kadang-kadang mempunyai pilihan, atau pilihan pilihan, tetapi, pilihan pilihan itu biasanya saya akan mempunyai sesuatu. Saya akan mendapatkan pilihan anda dan saya akan mempunyai anda ke dalam. Sekarang, pilihan pilihan itu sedikit berbeza. Ada banyak permainan dan sebagainya, sebagainya, anda akan sangat berminat bercakap dengan mereka dan mencari pilihan. Jadi, pilihan yang mempunyai pilihan, jadi, jika anda dapat pilihan pilihan yang berkongsi, mungkin sekitar 130 dolar, anda dapat memilih antara pilihan yang besar, pilihan iPhone, yang anda dapat memilih. Kemudian, jika tidak, perkara lain seperti pilihan eksternal dan sebagainya. Jadi, ada yang lain, jika anda dengar pilihan media, ada pilihan pilihan. Ada pilihan pilihan dan pilihan. Mereka berkongsi, hanya memberi pilihan pilihan, pilihan pilihan pilihan, dan perkara lain seperti itu. Kerana mereka suka pilihan pilihan pilihan. Sebenarnya, mungkin banyak pilihan mereka sekarang di pilihan pilihan pilihan. Jadi, jika anda berkongsi, dan anda cuba mendapat e-mails daripada orang, anda tahu, mereka tidak akan beri ke anda sepatutnya, atau mereka mungkin menerima e-mails anda. Ini adalah cara anda sepatutnya melakukan. Saya akan mengambilnya. Jadi, mereka mempunyai pilihan pilihan, ia disebabkan pilihan pilihan. Jadi, apa yang anda lakukan adalah, anda memilih pilihan pilihan, ada pilihan yang membantu anda dan anda menulis pilihan pilihan dan e-mail anda. Jadi, apabila anda memilih pilihan, apabila anda memilih pilihan, mereka akan memberikan anda beberapa pilihan yang lebih kecil, sedikit pilihan, pilihan merah, pilihan pilihan dan sebagainya. Kemudian, pada akhirnya, mereka sangat mudah. Apa yang mereka lakukan, mereka berkata, pilihan pilihan pilihan, setiap hari akan mendapat pilihan pilihan. Ya. Jadi, ini adalah bagaimana yang dikorek. Jadi, pilihan pilihan pilihan ini pada akhirnya, pilihan pilihan pilihan ini adalah banyak lagi pilihan pilihan ini. Jadi, perkara yang menarik yang saya membantu adalah, seperti apa yang anda lakukan pada Marina Bay atau Sentosa, anda dapat pilihan pilihan, dan sebagainya, dan mereka mengambil anda pada pekerjaan kerja. Ya. Dan, saya akan memandu ini. Siapa tahu apa ialah Wapu? Ya. Okey, saya rasa ada salah satu. Ia adalah pilihan kerja kita, Meskot. Ia adalah perkara ini yang nampak seperti Pikachu. Ya. Jadi, saya akan memandu ini, tapi saya cuba tidak mengambil pilihan saya. Dan, anda dapat melihatnya. Ia adalah perkara yang menarik. Wapu, tetapi ini juga pilihan iOS. Saya tidak dapat mencari itu. Mula-mula. Mula-mula. Jadi, ia adalah pilihan Wapu yang mempunyai pilihan gyroskop pada pilihan ibu anda. Ya. Jadi, anda mengambil pilihan, kemudian anda dapat melihatnya. Jadi, banyak orang mencari ini. Seperti Alex yang berkata, Amin Moto, mereka sebenarnya, apa yang mereka lakukan adalah, kami akan cuba mencari perkara Google Cardboard. Mungkin, bukan perkara Google Cardboard. Ya. Tetapi, apa yang mereka lakukan adalah, anda bermain dengan ini dan memberikan keputusan Google Cardboard. Jadi, anda dapat menerima aplikasi dan membuatnya di rumah. Jika anda pernah dengar securiti, itu adalah perkara securiti yang baik. Jadi, anda pernah lakukan beberapa projek besar dengan klien anda, atau pemerikannya, dan mereka berkata, jika anda mengambil aplikasi yang baik, anda dapat menerima aplikasi yang baik. Saya tidak bekerja untuk mereka, jadi, saya hanya beritahu apa yang baik untuk pekerjaan kerja. Jadi, pada kerja, kita ada perkara ini disebut bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian. Saya tidak pernah tahu apa-apa saja sehingga saya pergi ke sana. Saya bermain dengan bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian. Jadi, ia adalah sebuah tempat semasa orang berkata, saya mempunyai aplikasi bahagian bahagian bahagian, dan saya perlu melakukan ini. Bagaimana saya melakukan itu? Jadi, ia sangat beragak sangat teruk. Saya akan angkat sebab pombosan yang paling keras terang berusaha memainkan dengannya, dan ini bukan sering dengan pembinaan profesional, atau bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian bahagian, hanya bercakap dengan anda mengapakah anda dapat menggunakan kerosotak bergantai dengan yang lebih serba, tanpa menjadi tukar, dan perkara seperti itu. Jadi, banyak lap sengaja. Saya fikir tentang 53. Saya tidak kan mempunyai sebaru sengaja, dari beberapa negara dan sebagainya. Ada beberapa orang yang sangat terkenal. Jika anda tidak melihat apa-apa, mungkin tuan-tuan-tuan berubah. Biar saya tahu apakah tuan-tuan berubah. Adakah tuan-tuan berubah? Ya. Ya. Saya akan menghubungi lok. Dan kemudian saya akan menghubungi kembali kepada anda. Bolehkah anda bantu saya menghubungi lok? Ya. Jadi... Ada seseorang yang beritahu saya sesuatu? Saya hanya mahu menyebabkan apa yang berlaku. Oh, sebuah lok yang berlaku. Sebenarnya, wapu menyebabkan keadaan. Seperti sebuah lok yang berlaku. Wapu menyebabkan keadaan. Sebenarnya, jika anda menghubungi lok, anda akan melihat sesuatu. Banyak lok yang berlaku. Banyak lok yang berlaku. Ini adalah lok yang terkenal. Jika tidak, banyak lok yang berlaku. Tetapi perkara yang menarik adalah, perkara berlaku adalah, banyak orang tidak menghubungi lok. Apa yang mereka lakukannya? Mereka menghubungi lok. Dan mereka menghubungi lok. Sebenarnya, anda tidak menghubungi lok untuk menghubungi lok. Anda pergi ke sana untuk bercakap dengan orang-orang. Saya melihat beberapa lok yang berlaku. Ini adalah lok yang pertama saya berlaku. Sebelumnya, yang lain yang lebih berlaku, yang terkenal dengan lok dan komuniti, mereka tidak menghubungi lok. Mereka menghubungi lok. Mereka menghubungi lok selama 3 hari. Ini adalah salah satu lok. Ada sekitar 3 lok yang berlaku. lok yang berlaku sangat menarik. Anda mempunyai perkara yang menarik, di mana anda mempunyai perkara yang menarik dan perkara yang berlaku. Anda mempunyai perkara-perkaraan berlaku untuk mengubungi lok. Yang menarik. Sebenarnya, ada sebuah timur yang berkata bahawa dia bekerja, membuat kejadian, membuat kejadian. Mereka tahu apa yang dia akan lakukan. Jadi dia membuat perkara-perkaraan berlaku. Dan dia memulai ibu kerja dengan perkara-perkaraan berlaku. Jadi, ini sebenarnya perkara-perkaraan. Itu bukan perkara-perkaraan. It's a great hobby but we use it as food later on the lunch. And if you notice at WordPress, every release is named... You got to move the phone around by the way to see the wapus. So every release is named after a jazz magician. Some did, some alive, I think mostly did. So this was a jazz band. So it was pretty cool. So we were eating lunch and listening to a jazz band. So I can't share with you all the talks and I'm not going to bore you with it but two of the talks were really interesting. One is WordPress is being used by the White House. Not the whitehouse.gov.us or so on. But the White House is actively promoting WordPress and open source projects to be used because they are developed by thousands of people. So some of the projects, this is the Q1, sites.gov. Now basically this is the government website so are you a government agency? Would you like a WordPress website? We're going to create a WordPress website for you. So if I were the FBI and I thought I'm going to create a Christmas party website, I could go to sites.gov. So this is an entire WordPress multi-site system. So things like this, you see? A big WordPress logo on the US website, government website. So I think the key takeaway here is that one of the things that we discussed, actually we just had a meeting about two days ago, a bunch of us discussing about next year what we can do with the meetup and so on, that the Singapore community don't really use WordPress. Jumlah is still history in the government. WordPress is used but you don't see a lot of big agencies. So we are hoping that everyone here, after listening to this, you will be able to change that. So any one of you actually bid for government projects. I used to until they stopped. I stopped trying to convince them WordPress is good. So maybe next time we should start. So the other talk was by Andrew Nassin. Oh by the way, I forgot to mention that this talk was actually by one of the people working in the White House. So her name is Sarah Cope. Oh, I should have put an animation. So the next talk was by Andrew Nassin, Lead Developer of WordPress. And I think this is quite important for the developers or sales manager trying to sell WordPress solutions to people. So people always... Oh, someone dropped my phone, so sad. So it's always believed that WordPress is so backwards compatible. It must be, you know, there's a lot of extra code and so on. But the truth is, a lot of this extra code doesn't even run unless you are on a legacy system or you're using something legacy. Which means if you're updated, you're running everything quick, you're using the latest systems, you don't even run the old code. So they're there, they're just taking out bytes of space on your hard disk. They're doing nothing. They're not going to make your system even slower. So to the PHP community at large if you ever get someone telling you WordPress is supporting PHP 5.2. So you know, you should get them to move on and so on. You can tell them, it doesn't matter, we support the highest, we support the lowest. We support everyone's CMS. The second thing that I took away from this was that because WordPress is so upgradable, I just recently upgraded a 2.5, I think, to 4.3.1. Not yet to 4.4. Thank you, thank you. So not yet to 4.4 and it worked. It really worked. So how many of you can say that for the same for any other CMS or even software operating system that you can upgrade from versions that were there about eight years ago and still get it to the latest without any issues? I think WordPress can. So that's why we have grown to from the smallest market share people bully us and think that we're a blogging platform to something now which is 25% of the internet. So this is this bad words compatibility the fact that we care about users and the truth is one of the things that Andrew was saying that there are about two sides in the world that using one of the oldest thing that we haven't removed. One is Matt's website and the other someone else's I can't remember who he is. So the truth is we could say let's remove this piece of code and save about five bytes but then we break two websites. So is there something that we should do? Probably not. With the two bytes, the five bytes hard anyone? It doesn't. Is it safe? Yes, it's safe. So this is sort of why WordPress has grown so much. So a few key takeaways that I had from actually attending WordPress sorry, WorkCam is that WordPress creates jobs. So this is a clear whiteboard there where people feel I've got a job opening and then this is relatively empty and then towards the second day this is like that on the third day or that's me by the way I just want the Singapore to be up so I just wrote Singapore big by the third day it was squeezed everywhere I think I couldn't find a picture of that. So WordPress is family. So after the conference actually we had parties every night but after the conference this is the main after party so there were photo taking there were pool it was at this huge family bowling area which is about three floors and so on and then free drinks bowling pool and weird other stuff I can't remember what I have no idea what I was doing by the end of the night. So and then we went to other parties you see, bunch of us poor like inners who just joined the team and a few of us probably just talked online for years and then when we met we knew which we just connected so when we went to karaoke and stuff like that and even though to be honest we didn't really talk about anything tech we just talked about how WordPress could actually help people how we could do more WordPress websites for people people bringing their children one of my team members is actually a 50 plus year old lady who's got a 26 year old daughter and she brought her both of them are WordPress professionals so it's starting to actually go trans generation is it the correct term? so friends who have met after years of just chatting online or collaborating so WordPress is diverse and this is the first time we have attended a tech conference whereby the majority the majority is still male but it's not overly dominated by males so if you look at this pretty much about 40% females and then lots of girls and so on but that's the point it's a good distribution of male and females and other resources and so on so if you take anything away from this presentation I want you to realize that WordPress is will continue evolving oh I cut off Matt's head it's going to hit me so earlier on when WordPress came out it was a blogging platform when it was a fork from B2 and then it became a CMS which we can safely now say is the best CMS system in the world or this is the most versatile then our next step is we want to become an ad platform so which is why the recently hardly released REST API the JSON REST API into the WordPress core is such a big thing so there's this site called StoryCops so just go and google it later if you have watched state of the word you have seen that StoryCops is an app that allows you to record not the stories of your grandparents how they lived and so on and then what it does is actually it goes through the WordPress JSON REST API so the future is and I kid you not if you think apps are dying it's possible but if you want to drive a bigger business use the REST API connect your website to an app and sell that as a solution to your client so I shamelessly took this from Matt's Modekolette slides so JavaScript and API driven interfaces are the future so what Valentine was showing you just now Calypso that is a small taste of what's coming in the future you'll be able to visit websites just once after you visited home or anywhere with your internet access and you take the MRT and suddenly you're disconnected from internet fear not because your websites will still work that's the future so WordPress will continue to lead web trends and why did I say that because when 25% of the internet uses something the rest of the world the browsers cannot ignore it so one of the things that was released with WordPress 4.4 is responsive images how many people know what the responsive images do okay yes I need you to know great so our websites are already responsive but you sort of have to write code to say hey load this smaller size for the phone but with responsive images it allows you to not do that and what you do is it will just allow the browser to look for the most correct size and load that instead now that is not a confirmed spec in the next HTML5 well in the HTML5 so but now that WordPress has used it pretty much 25% of the internet is eventually going to start using it so we are now in a position to actually push the rest of the internet and say use this cool thing because it works so no other entities can actually do that so if you have with WordPress there is a crowd that actually says hey we are doing cool stuff follow us so oh I should have sit there first so that is the experience of me going to work in the US and really it was a marvelous experience I was a little bit worried about hey I'm going to spend a lot of money with a hotel the food and everything else there and I do not regret it I came back I'm still sick it was worth it so next year we are going to run work camp Singapore I don't think we are going to get 1,801 people but I'm really hoping for a decent sum and it's going to start from you guys being excited about this so what's going to happen is we are going to have sponsors in giving out free stuff we are going to have talks we are going to have international speakers coming in and then the best thing of you you might be able to call people and talk to them about WordPress and even if you are not interested in development design you could talk to other people who just use WordPress for a living how could I use WordPress to make a living you don't need to sell websites but you could build a website say an e-commerce website so how can you do that and the people there whether they are professionals or what not they are not there to actually sell you something they are there to teach you so when I was there the truth is I brought a huge bag of name cards I distributed about 10 which afterwards I stopped bringing it at all because in the end I realized no one was doing that at all it was just people there trying to help each other and in the end you sort of connect up through Twitter email and so on you don't need the name card because eventually if they know you and you trust you through the work camp you don't need a name card to sell them services so this is our website it is not fully up some little widget there telling you hey put in your email to subscribe to the latest updates so go to Singapore.workcamp.org please use the widget to subscribe to us and then once we have any information we will broadcast it to you all so what can you do at work camp so you can learn of course attend the various talks you can get help I'm going to really run a happiness bar so bring your WordPress website and so on and say how can I do this connect with people from overseas extend your reach and collaborate I want to build the next biggest WordPress plugin and then you don't know who Lester is so you can say hey now I'm at work camp I can look for Lester can you build me the next biggest plugin in Southeast Asia or Asia so I have a question to ask you if we were to run we will definitely run work camp so oops will weekdays be better for you all so I'm just going to do a quick informer vote who's happy with work camp will weekdays you get to take this off work you know probably one probably one day okay great a majority you can take this off work very good so join the website join our Facebook group meetup.com and so on and in the next few months you're going to post very exciting news about work camp so the plan is and I'm hoping I'm sharing with the red crowd is that if we do work camp Singapore grade in the next year maybe there might be a work camp Asia so you see the Japanese people Thailand Taiwanese and everyone congregating perhaps in Singapore I don't know but and then you get to talk a lot to these work press people so last housekeeping next meetup would likely be in January we would love to have javascript experts because as Matt javascript is the future if not I think we have really really want people to talk about this few topics but if you are not a developer talk about content creation writing SEO you know things like that anything you do we will press talk about it we would love you to have you so yeah so that's about it so that's me and you can see the videos of all the talks of work camp us at workpress.tv and not just work camp us but all the other work camps in the world and other meetups work camp workpress.tv or you can tweet me at Kenshinno so that's me I'm at Kenshinno everywhere so that's all so do I have any questions yes please when do you think that will happen which month we are trying to push it into the third quarter exact month I don't know we are trying to see one of the things that we love about workpress is that we try to synergize with each other so we have Micah's page me conference and have me advertise I don't know which month yet and then we have work camp Tokyo so we are trying to put them close together and such a way that people are flying say from work camp Europe happens in June hey I'll rest a while and then I'll start flying in Singapore attend Singapore's work camp move up to Tokyo attend page me conference then move up to Tokyo so this is the general plan it is not set in concrete we are still discussing with the work camp Tokyo people Valentine, Robert Micah Lester a part of the committee to create work camp Singapore so the set answer your question I don't know which month yet but third quarter and the audience is still with the focus on building the knowledge and sharing I will say the focus will be spread amongst the few topics so development design content creation social media stuff like that I would like to not make it so developer heavy because in the end I think most of us developers we can learn anything online let's Google but what secrets can you learn for another work press person now that's not something we can put on the slides or on to a talk so in the end when I went there it basically ask so how does your company do this if my company is doing A it's B better so these are people who can tell you that so if you were if you are thinking what can work press really what can really give to me that's really what you can give to you real professional advice for free yes so any questions great so I have a question yes please I'm just curious like why the government here in Singapore will turn down for press right on the record actually from my experience I just move here and I'm like expert so I'll be working with see this one oh this one oh that's okay that's okay that's okay because I'm not part of the government so I can say that this word yeah and I just want to say I have some very awful experience like say just use websites from the government sector so I was wondering why is it still yeah that's it so okay I'll try to be as honest as possible my experience we've working with okay I used to work at NCSO long time ago I used to do a lot of government websites so if you've visited some catered government websites probably through my hands but a lot of times it's not the designers and developers the user experience people there while deciding how it goes a lot of times it's basically the suits deciding how they want to site and why WordPress it's not being used because a lot of these suits believe WordPress is for blogs yeah so this starts from you guys telling people that WordPress is not just for blogs it's post 25% of the internet how can it be just for blogs right so I think this changes to start from us and now that the Singapore WordPress community is still growing this is essentially the time for everyone of you to jump in because by the time it's grown too late yeah so maybe it's a bit too late to go into the US because it's such a big thing but do it here so yeah I'll say in the end it's more about educating them that WordPress is good so hopefully my sites have helped you and um yeah I'll take one more question if anyone has any right so the time is 8.38 we're going to leave by 9 so there's 20 minutes I think I hope the beer tap and everything is still open so you still can go outside and bring it around until 9 I'll do a little bit of open talking to people if you've got a WordPress question whether it's about development design the WordPress team WordPress.org and so on I kind of answer a lot WordPress.com questions but I can answer a lot WordPress.org questions please feel free to talk to me yeah so thank you for coming oh before you leave