 Thank you for staying with us. It's still the breakfast on plus TV Africa our next hot topic is NNPP suspends kind of governor a biosu for Antiparty actions and to talk about that is Ladikwood Johnson the national auditor of NNPP. Good morning and welcome to the program mr. Johnson. I Don't know. I seem not to hear you. Well, did you mute yourself? Good morning and welcome. No one. Okay. Yeah, I'm on mute it. Yeah, you're audible right now Give us an update of what is happening between the NNPP in Cano and the governor Let's hear what is and what is not No, the bottom line is that there is nothing on to what happened The governor has not been suspended The governor is a good ambassador of the party I Must tell you immediately that I read Over the Internet's various From various platforms this same story that the governor had been suspended by the NNPP This is not true This is a story planted by People who have been Expelled from the party from the NNPP you will recall that we had issues last year after the elections and Some people were suspended and later expelled some were suspended and these people have carried on they they've filed several lawsuits and A few of those lawsuits have been thrown out. In fact, you will recall that I think two weeks ago we had neck meeting and national convention on National convention on Saturday the governor was there I make Witness the neck meeting witness the national convention and I am now I was at the national convention a Firm as the national Publicity secretary of the party. So if I do not announce that the governor has been suspended He hasn't been suspended Now these people are bothering the Moving on the delusional they have continued to say all sorts of things And you cannot stop any person from standing on the rooftops and shouting whatever he wants to shout But the bottom line is that they were expelled They've gone to court. They still have pending matters in court They tried to get an injunction to stop a booger before honorable justice I got through and he threw it out So that is the situation and I'm pleading with the press because it seems now that anyone can release And make a press release and then we all see it everywhere without anyone asking them Who are you who they are? How? How do you become chairman board of trustees? That's them talk about it. How where? What happened to the other the board what happened to the? national working committee or national executive How do you go from complaining that you are wrongfully suspended? Within a week, you now find yourself or you say that you are now acting national chairman This same person that calls himself and national chairman Was our publicity secretary if you remember give that up and he announced the expulsion and Suspension of some of these people only to join them about a week after to start to say all sorts of things So these things it's difficult to stop them. There's a court order that has said they should not arrest themselves But they are in contempt of that order The matter is still ongoing So we just say to the press and to Nigerians NMPP is intact Yes, we have some people who have left the party who are not happy about it And we have encouraged them to follow the rule of law They have started that but they still decide or they're still keen on Releasing falsities into the Nigerian Nigerian public space and I understand Because that is how they feed themselves They are being sponsored. You will you you recall that The former governor of Kanu Now national chairman of the APC Ganduja, you recall that He was purportedly Um He was suspended by his ward All of a sudden The APC in Kanu some of them announced that to say it was the NMPP It doesn't concern us. It's their internal affairs And then all of a sudden we now see this. So I know that my friends Some of them were my friends or my friends. I don't know if they'll say hello to me now Who Release made pledge releases During the supreme court case stated that Abba Kabea Yusuf the governor of Kanu Or is not a member of our party The same people supporting the case of the APC Well, we thank god Justice prevailed and we won. So they are the ones Doing and saying all these things spurious accusations false in windows Into the public space Please ignore if you do not hear From the national working committee I know you contacted me because you know, I'm a member of the national working committee I am now the publicity secretary of the party If you do not hear announcements from us Then these are people just playing politics and trying to Bring the image of the party into dispute Okay, we've established that that's okay. Um, they may be falsehood and all that they say no smoke without fire We're not trying to say what they're saying is true But we would like to know specific accusations that they leveled against the governor so that you can Puncture them as well. They said anti-party. So let's let's get to know what they are calling anti-party and then give us a response to them If you read their article or their press release The sole thing was that he attended the convention convention two weeks ago So they say he attended the convention of a faction blah blah blah blah There is no faction They are not a faction We are the party at the moment if you want to know the registered members or The registered executive recognized executive you go to inec they'll tell you Inec were there When we translated to what we have now I moved from national auditor They felt I'll do better Um as national publicity secretary. So I'm in that acting position now For the next two years all things being equal because with in two years time We will now have a proper elective convention into all the positions under the constitution So that is it they said they accused him of going for the Neck and the Convention That was hell And this is the convention with due notice to inec Inec were at the national executive committee meeting on friday and they were at the convention on saturday not just the full blown inec led by a director So they were there Well, this is if you were just calling they were just calling the convention a convention by the quancasia, which means it's just a faction People who believe in quancasia or not That's cheap cheap populist That's cheap populist propaganda if it were a convention by the quancasia the quancasia Is not a party You cannot stop quancoso And his supporters because he has a movement from being members of the party if they happen to be majority in the party And are there legally have been participating together with you complaining at the moment then You can't blackmail them. It's just cheap blackmail And that we will not allow to happen. You see There are many serious things that we have to we have to reposition the party we have to restructure the party We had the constitutional amendment during the convention because it's only the convention that can amend parts of the constitution We did that As I said inec was there we are following due process now the fact that rabbi musa quancoso was there Or that the governor of cano was there all that members of House of webs House of ascending from cano the speaker And many other people from across the country from every state and the fc the fact that there that doesn't mean That it is a quancasia It was quancasia program. That's just cheap sentimental Brutal dash forgive my friend Okay, but what are the prospects of this online? Well, yeah, what are the prospects of this nnpp especially in cano? I know that that's where you have a governor I should have be it should be like the stronghold and then The quancaso is from there who is a very Very instrumental to the formation and sustenance of this party and all that but it's also it's like a warground The chairman of Yes Is not a warground Not for the nnpp the nnpp Is in cano as you said we have the We have 19 members house of reps from there Majority of the house of assembly Governor the speaker. What have you from cano? now The warground is nigeria And we don't see it as a warground but for your purposes those who are shouting who are crying or making false insinuations are around from Different little spots around the country Let me correct something and that is part of why we have the warground. We always tell the truth Quancaso was not Formation and you said it's very important to the formation of the party. No The party was is a 20 year old plus party That was in existence before quancaso the TNM there's a group the TNM and the quancaso before we all joined in in 2002 We did we had a convention of all the bodies were dissolved all the organs Before neck i neck They were dissolved All these things are there then they put in caretaker committees to midwife Congresses and the convention which they did at that convention. I was elected or Ratified as the national auditor if you remember So i neck has been following that now all of a sudden halfway through some of you including One of the founders of the party Felt he was above the constitution. He was suspended and thereafter uh expel It's happened before if you recall what happened in abgah that went all the way to the supreme court They it is constitutionalism. No one is above the constitution Now these are the people Who continue to constitute a nuisance And say all sorts despite the fact that their matter is in court Of their matters because they filed in different jurisdictions Despite the fact that the matters are in court So they they are the ones that are constituting that can we itself is intact as a party? Yes, the state Might have issues with the formal governor Dundee day of apc or whatever but as NNPP the kind of states chapter is intact The governor is Still a member of the party and they are in consonants with the national Body of the NNPP and of course around the country as well That is the situation the people who are talking who are they'll release something else tomorrow And I just should be ready for that Okay I know you've you've defined what you can call the the warground as um as the entire country But this is what I meant You are a an opposition party When it comes to the national scene it's you are a position party and you are also Having a stronghold in a state that has the chairman the national chairman of the ruling all progressives party And then you just mentioned a fact that There's been Well to some people there's been a fight But this is a legal thing that the governor is doing to try to probe the previous administration But some people have even also attributed the problem If you may that the governor is might be having that you have just a puncture there now that is not a problem To the fact that he's fighting the national chairman of apc and that's why all these things are happening So there's bound to be this back and forth and this fight and all that so i'm asking What the prospects of NNPP are in the future in a state like kanu Which will be a slap on the apc if they don't take it over by next election Well the apc Had um they were in government In kanu When we held the election You know what it is in nigeria for The opposition to take over states During an election with all the Faulty processes And the powers wielded By a sitting god no or sitting president I'm a kabeel issues And are elected members of the house of assembly in kanu The speaker and others are doing Or are rendering good service To the people of kanu So I predict And I I assure you I'll go as far as saying that That by 2027 You will see that the nmpp will even make Bigger larger gains political gains i'm talking about Seats in the house of assembly etc Come that election I believe that if the governor is contesting That he will get a re-election if he chooses now to Re-contest The party will still produce the governor And we will spread to other states especially in the north So I have no doubt about that You see When a party is growing especially in our climate in nigeria That is when you have members of other parties Sponsoring people to try to retard the growth of that party We know that And we're ready for them And that is why Every time they come out to say things like this We come out to pump But I need for the press in nigeria To ask questions Ask them where they held their own convention How they became A a so-called faction we don't have a faction They are out of the party before they started saying they were getting themselves together There is nothing about them before the regulator which is ina So all these things including the court battles Make us stronger Virtually all our representatives in canon had to face the tribunal The apc took all of them to court Virtually all of them Not just the governor Of course the governor's own went all the way to the supreme court and we know what happened These processes had made us stronger as a party We have learned hard lessons And we are working That is why you see Immediately after the elections and everything We said we wanted to restructure To bring about a more vibrant Efficient or efficiently run Party that will take its message to the people of nigeria Now these people Are just irritants That try to disturb the work that we have ahead But that is my job now As the new national publicity secretary I will make sure that Nigerians know at every turn What is happening with the nmpp Because we will not just be talking to the people We will be listening to them And then we will tailor our message Our manifesto Especially regarding Insecurity Healthcare Medicare Infrastructure And of course education Which we are well known for To the needs of nigeria When you talk about education Is not just from secondary school to the university We're talking about vocational education IECT Information communication technology Things that will move nigerians Ahead of the west african and african counterparts We will make sure that we position the youth of nigeria To take advantage of the african free trade zone Area To make sure that we bring more prosperity and wealth Into this country We are determined to do that And these irritants as I call them Forgive me for using that Are just trying to slow us down But we will do both As we move along We'll keep answering them And make sure that we do not stop us From bringing to the people The dividends of democracy Okay, well thank you for giving us an update And telling us the prospects of nmpc In not only kanu but in nigeria as well I will wish you well Now and in the next circle of the election And I would like to thank you For being a part of our program this morning Thank you so much Thank you Well I would like to thank Mr. Ladipot Johnson Who is the current national publicity secretary Of the nmpp We're talking to him about what is happening in kanu And the fact that some people are claiming That the kanu state governor Abayusov has been suspended Would like to thank him for sharing his thoughts And updating us on what is really happening According to him nothing like that is happening These people are not even a faction of the nmpp But they are people who have been removed From the party a long time ago So there's no saying that whoever has been suspended From a party or by members who do not even exist in that party Would like to say thank you Not only to our guests this morning But to you as well for being a part of our program this morning Let's do it again tomorrow My name is Nyam Ghul Aghgaiji