 Higher today stocks moving up as fears of an all-out trade war began to ease with me right now Melissa Armell with the stocks push Liz Harrington with the Washington Free Beacon and former AFL CIO organizer Stewart a cuff Stewart. I'm gonna start with you. You know, it's interesting We don't always agree on stuff, but this might be one where you know I've started to think long and hard about this this trade issue and I'm thinking we might actually be seeing This in a similar way. Tell me your thoughts on these tariffs. Well, I you know I want to quote Chuck Schumer yesterday when he said neither party has paid enough attention to the crisis of deindustrialization in America and So I think this is a very good move by the president. I wish the process had been a little more careful And a little more strategic and targeted, but we do need to protect Our industries our basic industries in America Including steel and aluminum It is vital for us to have that Industrial capacity and that manufacturing capacity not just for national defense. That is certainly important but also for average working people and You know, we have now a social and cultural crisis. That's where we get into the problems of the diseases of Despair addiction alcoholism 50-year-old workers Lost their jobs to trade. They have no other place to go So it's a crisis throughout our society I always talk about as it was going on there about the hourglass economy You probably can't see this but imagine an hourglass, right? And then you got the the middle class right here They're the ones getting squeezed throughout all this and as our as our foreign exports Basically, our trade imbalance increases what we have seen is that incomes have been stagnant I mean, this is something that's going on for the last three decades last four decades One other comment, okay, and that is that that average working people are tired of watching talking heads on National TV talking as if there were a crisis when there's no been there's not been any of that kind of Sincere concern after 40 years of stagnant wages. And so this has been a long time coming And I would say Liz Harrington. This is one of the reasons he was elected, right? This is one of the reasons why you saw a lot of people cross over some of those Democrats in in traditionally Democratic places voted for him because They feel short-changed by the administration that was in power and this is an opportunity to do something different Liz is it gonna have the dire consequences that some Republicans are predicting? Well, I'm usually skeptical when it comes to these dire predictions when it comes to any Trump administration policy Because we know they haven't exactly panned out And I think there will be some economic effects to this but in the long run We shouldn't be surprised because this is what Trump said he was going to do and like you mentioned all those voters in the rust belt They voted for him because he promised to do these things. This is a camping promise met I think it's a win for him politically because he said he was going to protect American workers He said he wanted to address the the big $800 billion trade deficit. This is what he's doing And so I think that is a win for him politically. You also see it's worked in the past as a political move We saw George W. Bush Institute and steel tariffs It really benefited him in Ohio and he ended up winning a reelection in 2004 So there's a political aspect to this as well and you know that that Shouldn't be lost throughout but the market is okay with it for now. Anyway, Melissa What's your sense of where this is heading? Well, the market's green now as we're talking and we just went green in the day We were down a little bit earlier today. We had that correction a couple weeks ago Boom, we ran right up over it if we make new highs again very quickly after this announcement today I would not be shocked at all and what I mean I mean the next couple of days the next couple of weeks and that means essentially if we close above the highs again in The next month that this had no negative effect on the economy no negative effect on the market I think people were really up in arms about it and excited in the last week of when he announced that I think it was Friday or Thursday or Friday last week announced it But I think it was more of a political maneuver like some of the people were talking about than anything else and Pennsylvania I'm from Pennsylvania. That was one of the states that typically voted Democrat and went Republican and I think he's looking out He's looking out ahead. He's looking he's probably gonna run again, but the market loves Trump It's we rallied every day since he was elected and yet everybody's so doomsday about every policy he comes up You're not We've got tax relief right in the tax reform that should Hopefully start to spur things along. We've seen very good numbers on the jobs front and a little bit of wage inflation So you start combining all those things together, and I don't know Stuart. It may make a Republican out of you Like to come on Fox and tell the truth and the truth is that the president though There's no love lost from me for him is right this time and It's a good move. It's good. See I come from a little I live in a retired a little town in West Virginia called Martinsburg It used to be an industrial town now It's hollowed out and it has the worst opioid crisis in America a lot of that has to do with the destruction of Good jobs. No, it's devastating. Look, you know, they called the Great Depression The Great Depression for a reason and I can remember my grandmother telling me when her father lost his job at the factory He was never the same. He really did go into a state of depression Demoralizing I have to leave it there, but it's a very interesting time Let me say one more thing real quick shout out to West Virginia We have two Democrats in West Virginia Aaron Schoenberg and Richard Ojeda who are gonna bring the state back to Democrats on Hey, I don't know. Maybe there's a chance for a few Republicans to follow in Donald Trump's Anyway, good to see you Stuart. Good to see all of you. Thanks. Thank you. We're gonna have commerce