 Wow Rick, you look more like George W. Bush than you do Putin. It amazes me how much Indians think you look like George W. Bush. Me too, it's really strange. I don't think I've, I've never... Have you guys seen George W. Bush? I've literally never seen it. I've never had anybody... But you get it all the time for Indians. And I've never had anyone but Indians say that about me. Or tune me. And what's interesting is, the film is not supposed to be a direct impersonation. If it were, it would have been a completely different look. So, yeah, vodka. But thank you, Stupid Babies. You've pushed that trailer up to nearly 50,000 views and 99% of the comments are nothing but love and support, which is typical of the Christian, our writer, director, flabbergasted at the love and support of Stupid Babies. If only Bollywood filmmakers would realize what we can do for your film. It's true. Would you like your trailer to get 50,000 views? Come on now! Hey, welcome back to our Stupid Rakesy, the Gourmet. We got the views. I think you can follow us on Instagram, Twitter, or GC content. Thanks to Patreon, follow us on Instagram, and subscribe to the like button. Today we got a video. This is from the channel Jubilee. And this is, what is it like to be black in India? And so this is from their spectrum series. I don't know if you've ever seen a video of Jubilees and their spectrum. I've actually been in a few Jubilee videos. That's what I was gonna say. That's what I've seen. The spectrum ones where, you know, people, they ask a question and you go strongly disagree, strongly agree, blah, blah, blah. Were they the ones that did the thing where guess if I'm gay that you did? Okay. I did that one. I've also done a spectrum one with white people, which is probably, I think, their most popular video ever of Jubilees. But it's a fun little concept, but this is a little series offshoot of spectrum. It's still spectrum, but it's, they've done it in like, what's it like to be black in Japan, China? They've done India. It's interesting. And these are all people that I believe should live in India. Right. And are not African Americans, so they're black. And so it's super, super interesting, all these. And so, because these people's experience and all that kind of stuff, so. Anytime you're a minority in a country, it's just, you know, you're gonna, hopefully you don't go through insane times, but you're gonna go through discrimination just because, unfortunately, that's the world we live in, sadly. People just are weird sometimes. Obviously minorities in America. But it is, I would really love to know what it is with the black, we know full well, as well as a white person can understand what the black experience is for black people in America. Cause there's no other group here. If you don't know it, like Andrani asked me, she said, if I went to Mississippi, would I need to be concerned how they treat me? And I and everyone who's ever talked to her said, no, because you're white brown. You're not black. They would treat you differently if you were a black woman versus an Indian woman. I mean, she would still get some racism. But not like black people do, exactly. Here we go. Spectrum is a social experiment that explores the diversity of perspective that exists within a shared identity. The opinions expressed by the cast are not the opinions of Google, YouTube, or Jubilee. Thanks for watching. It's sad to say what I'm gonna say. We don't matter right now. So I like India because I have the outlook of a Nigerian, but I have the inside personality of an Indian too. And being my true authentic self is what makes me happy. Living here. In order to make activism work, you need to have the backbone of other people, not only black people. So you find it easy to date? It's easy to date. Yeah, of course. I don't know. Tell me more. Me, Rosalina, I hate. Peter, Mary, Joshua, Dendrei. My name is Ramnath. I'm from India and I'm from Africa. Yes, people question the everyday of my life, but this is definitely home. Probably a similar experience to what Northeastern Indians go through. Sure. It's one of the world's oldest civilizations, dating back to roughly 2,500 B.C. The country is best known for its spice, textile, and entertainment industries, which are influenced by India's 2,000 different ethnic groups. But out of a population of close to 1.4 billion people, only about 60,000. Wow. That's small, huh? The first black people arrived in India from Africa during the fourth century. Didn't realize it was so small. And others as merchants. By the 16th century, many of the free Africans served as warriors and rulers. But those enslaved remained as outcasts with low status. Their descendants, a tribal community known as the cities, continued to live in the forest of this dead. Had no idea. Wow. They brought together a spectrum of black people, from mixed race individuals to natives to expats, to learn about their culture, expat community, and the black experience in India. Super interesting. I find it easy to make friends in India. Three, two, one. It's always so interesting people's answers. Totally split. Yeah, I've always found it easy to make friends. I just am a people's person. I just go up to them and speak to them. For me, when I try to make friends, if they just go away, they said, you are something different from us. We can't trust you. That's what they say. So I feel it's not that easy to make friends here. I think everyone in this room will agree. Everyone has faced the same thing. But I think I kind of use that to my advantage. And I go in with a particular perspective that I know I'm different. And that is why you probably should be friends with me. Yeah, it's a lot of personal input. I used to read about India, because I loved India even when I was young. I wanted to come and study here. So I used to read about India. I knew some things here and there, from observation, most of those that are open-minded once lived outside. And then they come, so they've met other people. I feel like it's hard to make friends, because you already know the idea they have of you, because they literally use stereotypes and perceptions. I've had moments where I have been approached by Indians. And the first thing they assume is I'm from Nigeria, which is OK, it's not bad. Nigeria is a country. But at least try and ask me where I'm from. Yeah, don't make an assumption. Maybe I'll ask you the question of just assuming you're from Nigeria. Probably, you've got to understand that that's the only thing they know, right? They're ignorant. So you've got to approach that sometimes with a little bit of empathy. Took me a while to understand that not everybody is that educated or well-traveled to know everything. You don't have to travel to know things. Not everyone knows everything, right? But not everybody has the privilege also. If you take my friends, for example, like my school friends. Initially, we weren't schooled. We obviously had altercation and stuff like that. But now today, it's because of me that they can see it through my lens and look at other people of color differently. Isn't that a win? I think it's a win. It is, Peter. That is a win. My name is Peter Muka Manuel. My mother is Indian. My dad's Nigerian. Yeah, he has such an interesting accent. It's like a mix with my mother. It's beautiful. So my sister, Rosalind and I, we are really close for sure. He's a mix of a Nigerian and an Indian accent. I also look like a protective one. Growing up, I think I want to accept that I'm Nigerian. Everyone around school and stuff. I did not get a background story in my spectrum. We're trying to be picked on because of the way you look. Children can be brutal. Friends in school. Initially, it was tough to me. You've always been like Indian. We don't think about stuff like I've never looked at you because we're in India right now. That's how we speak, right? When you see you, obviously you look different. And different is not bad. And then you start doubting him. Like, what about me? I don't know. You're just like the rest of us. And Neville Irani has been one of my closest friends since I was a kid. The good side of being black came to me for sports, right? I just got all the attention because of that. As I grew up, I think I got more interested in my culture because I felt like if there's something so different about me, which I am not seeing in the world is, there has to be something there. So I started digging deeper. And I think a part of me started accepting being from there because that is who I am. Dating in India is hard for me. Three, two, one. Wow. Hmm. Really, really. So you disagree? Yes. So you find it easy to make friends. Easy to date, but hard to make friends? You say a person who says you're a friend of yours. Yeah. If you're really trying to understand them and if our ideology is similar, then it's easy to... So you're saying if you approach a woman who you really like... Yeah. And she's okay... No, no, no, no, no. Does she agree? No, no, no. Let me rephrase. This is how you look. This is a woman. Possibly an Indian looking woman. Okay. You are interested in her. Okay. You approach her. Dating can be from one side, right? No. It can be from one side, right? But he has a point there. He has a point there. Dating can't be from one side. One side. I can't like anything, but I can't get it, right? Yeah. Yeah? So if she agrees, then we can date. No, has that happened to you? Yeah. When you approach someone, has it been smooth going? If she really likes me or like what I am, my personality, then she can agree. So we can have... I think I get what he's saying. He's talking about the process that once you get to know each other, dating a person from the Indian culture, whether there's like a blend and whether it's easy to keep a woman happy. Yeah. So I think that's what he's saying. So how often has that happened? How everything which other people have. When I approach an Indian woman, definitely there is some woman who really likes me because of my personality, because when they get to know about me, the struggle which I have to come out of this level, then they really agree. Yeah. And I can understand, he would be more invested in somebody likes than just a casual friendship. Yeah, man. See, this is from Karnataka. It's from Karnataka. A tribe community in India. So we're all living in the forest. From the childhood, from the six years old, when we start the school, I was walking through the forest for four kilometers to see the school. It was a really tough time for me. I'm the first person who got a postgraduate in the community. Oh, wow. As a therapist. That's awesome. But when I come to the city, it is a difficult life. Oh, I bet it was a hard adjustment. People look at me in a different way, because I look like African, but still I'm Indian. So I feel so... Yes, you are. I was going to say he must felt so alone. Oh. I feel all the time very comfortable living in the forest, rather than the city, because there is no discrimination. There is no difference. I've never actually even thought about dating Indian men. Why? Because for me personally, I feel like they would say no. And like coming from the background and the caste system, which is also very, very strict. I feel dating outside the race is something that most of them don't actually even think of. They're mostly like... There have been approaches. No. You meant to say that you never tried? I don't want to try. Okay. So for me, like what she said, you have like these Indians approach you, you start talking, and then I don't think they even care about you. Love those genes. Yeah. I'm not the person that's like, no, I can't be with an Indian. I can't be with... No. I like people for who they are, as human beings. So I give people a chance to like get to know them. I have been told, especially by my female friends, that most... I don't know, there's this perception that people think that every black woman is good at sex. Yeah. That's what I said another year. So honestly, most people who've been approached by Indian guys, it's just been all about that. Even about like a long term relationship. Wow. Most of the time, their approach is always intimate. Yeah. But then you give this person a chance and before it even goes anywhere left, they're already talking about everything that they think black women do. I somewhat agree. There was once where one guy said, yeah, we can date, but no one needs to know. Wow. Wow. So few years later, I met my husband, who actually likes black women. Oh. Like he specifically said that to his friend. That's what he's attracted to. That if you want to give me something, give me an African girlfriend. And she actually said, okay, fine, done. And he was like, no, I was kidding. How are you going to do that? Well, he didn't know that she knew me through work. That's great. And she arranged for us to meet and that's how we met. In my case, it's been difficult to date in India because most of the men which I have approached or have approached me, objectified me. Yeah. They see me as a black person. Right. Okay. I might be dangerous. I might be a criminal. A lot of things. So hence I get denied on. Yeah. Another stereotype. But in the end of the day, also sometimes I always, it always comes back to how I look. Namaste. How's it going? My name is Joshua Kisilaku. I'm 25 years old. My mom's Indian and my dad's from Nigeria. So when I moved to India, I was around eight or nine years old. I wasn't allowed to play certain sports because of my height difference and my color for certain plays. I couldn't do certain plays and roles and musicals and stuff in school. Being excluded from playing certain things and doing certain things made me feel alone more every time. It was maybe like an outcast at times. The hardest part of living in India is being different from everybody else. I'm black and I'm queer and they think black people are supposed to be really strong and macho and all and I'm a mix of both. Oh, great outfit, bro. Yeah, I can see why he's beautiful. Gorgeous, man. They can be mean and nasty with the words they say, but at the end of the day, it's you who has to look out for yourself at times and that kind of made me strong and that was... Such a handsome face. Great question. Nice question. Wow. Yeah, these are always so interesting with answers, you know. In order for you to protest and rally and participate in all these things, we actually need to feel that we have the right to do so. Let me give an example of, you know, this famous, like, the recent black lives movement for Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. You could actually see that when the black people in America were protesting, they were actually being backed by so many politicians, by people from other races. Yeah, non-black people, yeah. The entire world, on Instagram, Twitter, everybody was posting about black lives matter. Everyone was saying that enough is enough. And I feel like in order to make activism work, you need to have the backbone of other people, not only black people. Yeah, community, yeah. To be honest, speaking, we are not the majority. We are a very, very... We are smaller than a minority. Yeah, yeah. Minority. Yeah, take, for example... A micro-minority, probably, in India with those numbers. I only knew my brother as another black guy. Yeah. So that's how insignificant it is here. We do have racism when it comes to black and Africans. But I always differentiate it between casual racism, right? And hate racism. In India, we don't, at the moment, have hate racism to an extent where people are being murdered. Right? I'm talking about in numbers, right? Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying. Like, in America, right? It's happening everything. It's hate-based. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Versus ignorance-based. Yeah. You can't take enough, right? Like you said, it's happening, right? But how many people know about it? Yeah. Because nobody... Exactly, because nobody... Nobody talks about it. Nobody talks about it. Nobody talks about it because it's not been highlighted at all. It's sad to say what I'm going to say. We don't matter right now. You understand? Yeah. We don't matter. That's the hard fact, yeah. They matter because the people... The black lives that are fighting for black lives over there come from power. Like, again, I repeat myself, the people who are protesting, even when it comes to Twitter or whatever, people like Beyonce and... People who are power in the world. I feel like that's not really true because if you follow all these movements, the people who actually led the movements are actually people of my age. True. 100%. The person who recorded George Floyd's death was a girl of my age. Yes. It was not Beyonce. I know. She's the one who posted on social media. And you're saying that how many deaths compared to America here, we don't need black people to die. We don't need it. Exactly. For people to realize that we don't have to be treated in a bad way. Hmm. I love these conversations. Me too. Well, I came here a bit young. My mom got posted here via a government job. She was sent to serve as the high commissioner to Zambia in India. So, I have been staying in India for five years. I am pursuing my studying law at Galgotha University in Ota Pradesh. Coming from Africa, we are definitely into our culture. And that's something I notice about like the Indians. They are very proud of their dressing, their food, people from here still like keep their culture and love it. The same way we do back home is something that I admire. Yeah. It's been very difficult. Like, getting to... Beautiful hair. ...the Indian community and as well as the black community because there's no acceptance for you because the Indian community is like, oh, you're light, but you're not that light for us to perceive you as light skin and stuff like that. And in the black community, people think that when you're like a black person who's light skin, then you have it better than others when that's not actually true. Hmm. Hmm. I have experienced colorism in India. Three, two, one. Yeah, all on the agree side. Gotta think. Yep. Let's go, baby. Wow. What is that thing that you're disagreeing with like slightly? It happens a lot with me. I am always judge based on my color. When I went for an interview, they said, hey, you're too black to... Get the job. ...to get the job. Yeah. So that is why I was strongly disagreed and why I said I was just being too kind. Also, I do agree and it is because sometimes not everybody is like this, you know. I see what you're saying. I was doing that earlier. It's a two-way thing. Sometimes I can't. I struggle with this. Yeah. Like to see this, but when it comes to colorism, I say in India, what's so prevalent is it doesn't even boil down to way of form, right? Now, what ethnicity you are or whatever, because from childhood, I've been here since I was a kid, right? So in the same school I went to, even I was called Kalyan and even another Indian kid who's probably from the South was called Kalyan. So there was no difference. You know what I'm saying? The meaning is the same. It's the same. The thought is different. Oh, no. Trust me. When you're a child, for them it's the color they've been things like, you hear a mother tell the daughter, don't play in the sun. You'll get dark. Yeah. It's really bad. For me, it has impacted when I was growing up. Before I got into modeling and stuff, I was always shy to be in front of the camera. I never took pictures. Didn't like looking in the mirror. I tried all this fairness cream and all these stuff. Wow. Changed my skin color. Oh, I love your shoes, bro. This made me realize what's the US? You just embrace yourself. True. Marlene is good at this. Here we have some better melanin yet. True. So I'm happy with it. Me personally growing up, I went through a phase where I never dated anyone because I had that in me that I'm black, I'm not beautiful, no one will date me. So the first time I even dated someone, I was at the age of 28. So you can imagine. Wow. The impact it has on you growing up How old is she? Seriously. My name is Rosalind Manuel Fernando. 37. I'm a hairstylist. When was the last time I did your makeup? I would have thought she was at 28. 10 years. Are you kidding me? I was always artistic. So I thought makeup would be a good way to educate and that you can look beautiful no matter what skin tone you have. My mom is Indian. My dad was Nigerian. And growing up, I always had very low self-esteem especially because of my skin color. Sometimes I tell them, like, no, I'm born and brought up here. Like, you know, I'm from Mumbai and they're like, no, your hair, no, it's not possible. Most men would not want to be seen with me. The guy I was dating, his mother, actually told him, you can't marry this girl because you'll have black babies. That's the extent of colorism in India. Okay, where are you going? On a date? I like it. Now I'm married to an Indian and I have twin boys. Hey! I really don't know what the future holds for them. I'm sure they will be questioned by their friends in future as to why your mother... Oh, gorgeous! Man, it's a gorgeous photo. But the first step that I have taken is to first be comfortable in myself and the way I look. I feel at home in India. Three, two, one. Some would agree, some would disagree. That's my guess. You'll get a some would agree, some would disagree. Ooh, strongly agree. She goes strongly agree. That's great. Wow, and strongly disagree. That's awesome. So I strongly disagree because first of all, India is not home, so I'm not even supposed to feel like home. Then secondly, it gets worse where you're already different, so you're treated different based on how you look. Thirdly, everything, what they believe in and everything reminds you of how much you're not home. So it's difficult to feel at home. Wherever you go. My name is Merika Lebe. I'm a Zambian who's currently located in India. I'm a student of pharmacy and India was one of the countries that are well known for medical fields. The school I went to was really in a remote place, so there were not much Africans. So we have some experiences where you're going in the market, you meet the locals, they want some selfies with you, and then they touch your skin to see if, like, anything is coming out or maybe dust or something like that. Or there are times when someone just puts your bread and you go back and then they'll be asking, how long does it take for you to wash your hair? Yeah, that happens a lot. That's when you just tell them, you educate them more about Africa or black women in June. So sometimes it can make you feel bad, but at the same time, you feel like, okay, maybe it's because we're just different and unique. That's why they are so anxious and never to know more about us. I do agree that there's my home. This is a small world which I have. There are a lot of other world which hate me. You don't feel accepted? Yeah. I don't think about that. It may affect me, but when I go to my home, my community, it is my world. So that's why I agree to be India, my home. I think for someone to actually call it a home, you have to experience good stuff. You have to experience bad things as well. And yeah, I've made friends here. I have my family here. So I can call India my home now because I've been here also for quite a long time. I came during my early teens and I'm still here out of my teens and I had my family live with me here. So it literally just became a home to me somewhere because I left my home country early and this has been the second country where I've actually stayed. Well, I feel this is home because this is the only place I have been. I have my friends, my family. I have started a family here. Yes, people look at me every day of my life. People question me every day of my life but at the same time, because I speak the local language and I have that many friends, it becomes very easy for me to communicate with people, make friends. So this is definitely home. Good meeting different black people in India. We all still have like different cultures, religions, things that we believe in. Just how they are brought up, how they live. And they get to learn more from you as well which is just amazing. It always feels good for me when I feel like I'm African because that is one of the good things I feel like I'm proud because anybody can recognize me. I have a different look. I have a black look which is very beautiful. You really need to find yourself around the right people. Even if you don't come from the same country, the fact that you come from like similar backgrounds and the same continent, so obviously we do have somewhere where we can actually connect and get to know each other. I get to see it through the audience and there are some things that I relate to when we speak because some things I don't relate to even when it is about talking about the same country we're living in. I have the outlook of being Nigerian but I have the inside personality of an Indian too. Being my true authentic self is what makes me happy living here. Yes, it's important to stay confident. You're beautiful. We will always look out for each other and be there for each other so that's how I look at it now. As soon as I walk in a room, I start crying. That was beautiful. Yeah, a great video. They're always very well produced videos, Jubilee does, especially the Spectrum series, one of the better ones because they actually had them because in the normal spectrum that they I guess have here in the United States that I was a part of one of their videos, you didn't do background of each person. Right. So I'm guessing this Asian series that they're doing. Less people and go deeper into each person's story a little bit, each person. It's always so interesting because obviously we're not qualified to speak on their experience. Obviously in India, an Indian is not really qualified to speak on their experience. Not at all. I'm not qualified to speak on a black person's experience in America because I didn't experience it. So you can't be like, that's wrong. That's their experience. You can't tell a person their experience is incorrect. But I thought it was actually so beautiful because obviously even though they have some of these experiences of colorism and stuff like that, they still also have that the guy said, I'm black on the outside, but I'm an Indian. And we heard that sentiment as well from like people in the Northeast here in India. Also don't look Indian. Right. That experience is some of these things, but they love India just the same. And it's just, I thought it was a beautiful video. I did too. Super interesting. And they didn't bring this up, but obviously one of the biggest contributors to what the response was here for Black Lives Matter with Breonna Taylor and Floyd and you name it, but particularly after Floyd. And the difference is not just that there's more people and there's more black Americans than there are black Indians. It's the depth of our nation's history being rooted in the mistreatment of black people. That differentiates black issues here, not just from population standards, but our history is rooted in the abuse of black people. Black American experience is different than the black experience in other places. And it has not stopped. It's just changed. There were advances during the civil rights movement, but that's part of the reason and it's got to feel so, my heart particularly goes out to, I forgot his name, but the gentleman from the forest community what a shock to not only be amongst people that are supposed to be your own because you're an Indian, but you definitely feel, I don't see anyone who can relate to me and now add to that city life versus forest life. Oh my goodness. Hats off to you for continuing to live in that environment and survive. It was super interesting because I think a lot of people, like with that other gentleman I think was Peter, he said it, he doesn't see a lot of hate racism as opposed to, I forget whether he called it. Ignorance. Ignorance racism. Even though obviously I'm sure there is hate racism, obviously there's, people hate all around the world, obviously. It's obviously, the reason why he said America specifically, we have a lot of that, but we also have guns. And so, the people that hate you can easily kill you. And we have a legal system that very clearly, and obviously the history of Black people. Our legal system and our financial institutions, if you know the history of Black Americans, this country has been geared to screw them forever. And so obviously we have that and it's just easier as well. And obviously if something happens in America, it's going to be louder around the world. But they're right. They're not wrong at all. 60,000, that's a micro minority. It is a micro minority. I don't know if that qualifies for a micro minority. That might be even too small. Even smaller. Because 60,000 compared to the 1.4 billion. It's not even 100th of 1%. No. No. Like I said, it might not even qualify for a micro minority. Which is the truth that they do not have a particular voice because there's just strength in numbers and they just don't have that. That's unfortunate. That was really enlightening because I would have never had any clue as to what it's like to be black and live in India. If there are any stupid babies that are black and Indian. Please let us know. Please let us know. I would love to. I don't... Maybe I've experienced it. Obviously I've heard from a lot that are northeastern Indian. I'm sure that are some that are African Indian. I tell you the ignorance factor will come into play for me. If we were in Mumbai and I saw a black person, my immediate ignorant supposition would be they're traveling here from Europe or America to Africa. They're not native. And then I would be shocked to find out that they were. And then from there the ignorance would be gone and I would just be so intrigued. But yeah, it's... I can't imagine. It's super interesting. And I bet there's the same... Like if you asked to how to be Chinese and Indian. Like if you're a Chinese person that lives in India. Or if you were... Yeah, if you were someone who was born in Chennai. Yeah. And then your parents when you were two moved you to Niger. And you grew up in Niger amongst all of these Nigerians. You'd feel like an outcast. Yeah. Or if you're... The experience of a black person living in India would be a lot of different than if this was done as a white person in India. I'm sure you'd still feel face the stuff but it's probably on the more positive side. Yeah. Because of the wanting to be lighter. Right. The dynamic that they have is the inherent problem of dark versus light that's part of the culture that's very different. That they're already at a disadvantage because of the darkness. It would be interesting to see that video though of white person who would be a minority in India. In a particular region Mark Bennington's son. Right. Let's say when he grows up to see his experience because he'd be Indian. Right. In India experience like that. But also what's your discrimination experience? Is there any? What's the opposite experience? Yeah. Because I'm sure there's some you'll experience some if you're a minority anyway regardless of if you're white you're going to experience some it just might not be as extreme as others because people are still going to be like you're different, you're white so you're going to experience some it might not be extreme it might not be negative. Right. So by understanding that would be an interesting video to see those people. Yeah. It definitely happened and Andrani noticed it when I was with her for the first time in Kolkata we would walk up to places like say a a driver and she would ask how much it costs to take us to a place and the driver would look at me and then tell her a price and Andrani would do this she'd go and walk away and she'd say he upped the price because he saw you were a white guy he's trying to rip us off because he thinks you have money because you're a white guy I think I've said this before whenever I was in India I had like a wad of cash because I just cashed out money at the airport before we got here and I never paid for anything I just handed it to one of the stupid babies that were always falling I just handed them a wad of cash and said go pay because I was like one I don't know I don't know how this money works two I'm sure I wouldn't get a fair price right exactly so you go do this please exactly but it was great video very wonderful video let us know what you thought even like I said if you're a black Indian please let us know in the comments below love to know your experience in everything like that let us know what are the videos we can react to down below