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I feel like it's been a while that I've done this here in Durham, New Hampshire. I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in Fairfield, Connecticut, this is John F. Brun. And here in Lee, New Hampshire pilot. Nice to be back with you, Jets. David has been a while you traveled, but you didn't do the remote show. I didn't because we recorded two before I left. We recorded the Synology episode out of order, by the way, out of order. Correct. Yeah, that was that was interesting. I'm not sure if we've done that before. I feel like there might have been a time when we did for some reason. But yeah, we recorded there was nine twenty eight and nine twenty seven. And then I then I took off to Portland to pick up my son. And yeah, it was it's good. I, you know, I used that aces in screen for the for that trip. Because while I didn't do any remote podcast recording, it was a remote working trip for sure. You know, I had I had stuff that I needed to stay up with. And that 15 inch screen to travel with to connect to my laptop makes all the difference in the world for me. In terms of just being able to like immerse myself for a few hours in the morning, be totally productive and then, you know, was able to go and like, you know, we're moving our son out of college. So it was, you know, there was stuff to do for sure. And we did have some sort of leisure time there as well. But to to carve out those those those moments to get some what I'll call your focused work done, that's to scream for me makes a difference. I think it's because I use multiple monitors at my work spaces. And so let me let me jump in on that. You you asked me and I don't remember if it was on a show or post show or at some point about, you know, what did my workflow involve extra screens and that sort of thing. And yeah, I know it doesn't. But right, it hasn't needed to yet. So I started playing around with it. And this week, especially, I've gone through several tutorials with the video up on my television screen and me working on my laptop screen following along. Oh, OK, that's how it goes. And so that's that's pretty slick. What I was not able to do. And I think it's I think it's an account thing was to use my iPad because I have a separate Apple ID on my iPad so that so that I don't mix and match personal and business because it's not my iPad. It's right. It's an issue. It's a company issue. That makes sense. Yeah, there are ways with especially with Apple's new device management. There's a beta thing I saw thing that's happening. Right. That and the company would need to adopt it. But they're that we because we interviewed somebody from Apple on this show. Actually, a few months ago, I'll put a link in their show notes about that that whole system. And it allows you to have the work Apple ID manage, you know, the iPad that's owned by work, but also add your private your personal Apple ID. And that data is actually kept private in Sandbox and all those things. So yeah, I mean, for for people that didn't catch it, what Pete's talking about is the sidecar mode where you're using your iPad as an extra screen for your Mac doesn't work, only works for devices that are all signed into the same Apple ID. And so, yeah, that's interesting. Huh, some day. Yeah, well, some day. Yeah, I wonder if there's a work around for that, though, because it feels like I didn't find it if there is. I'm sure there is, but I didn't find it. I I. Yeah, I feel like there's like because you're not your situation is far from unique. Right. Right. And so like, I wonder if there's a way to log your. Mac into your company account in a way that would enable that kind of connection without without adding all the other stuff. Like, I don't know the answer to this, but I'm just, you know, like, because you can be logged in to multiple Apple IDs on it. Yeah, but but one of them is very much the primary, right? And then the other is just there for syncing in general. But but I don't know, maybe behind the scenes. It's like, yeah, well, syncing and, you know, sidecar, sure. You know, and as Brian Monroe and our chat at mackeycup.com slash discord points out that universal control also needs to be logged in to the same Apple ID for that to work. That's what that's the one universal control is in the beta now, right? Is that what I read? Yeah. Yeah. Universal control is in beta. Yeah. Yeah. It it. Well, I mean, I guess it's it's there. I had a an interesting issue with universal control this week that I was going to share in the quick tip segment. So, you know, let it be a PSA and let us enter the quick tip segment of the show. But I had been doing some stuff up here in the studio. And then I went downstairs to the office and started working on the Mac mini down there. I suddenly lost the ability to control my computer with keyboard and mouse, like neither one, nothing. And it was like, OK, so I at first I thought the trackpad had, you know, the battery had died in it. So I plugged it in and I saw like the oh, yeah, connecting this way. And OK, it's it sees it, move the trackpad around nothing, keyboard, nothing, nothing, nothing. So I finally log in remotely from my phone and reboot the the Mac, you know, my office. I'm like, OK. And as it comes back up, I start messing around. It's like, OK, great keyboard and mouse work great. As soon as it gets to a point where it's like started up, keyboard and mouse go away again. OK, what is going on? And I realized it was universal control. I had pushed past the edge of my screen and I was controlling this computer up here unintentionally and also with no indication on the screen of the device that I came from that I had left. Now, you know, Apple doesn't know that these two computers are in separate rooms, but again, I don't think my situation is unique. I know, which is why I shared on show that other people out there are going to run into this. So I figured I'm not necessarily a bug, but a feature request me. Hey, by the way, you know, just a quick year on the other computer. Yeah, you've moved because I think, you know, I know these features are there and it took me, you know, I burned 20 minutes trying to figure this out. Elvis has left the room. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it was interesting. And I what I'm surprised about is that this has not happened before. But the only difference is I turned off sleep on this iMac up here because of the Thunderbolt bug where Thunderbolt devices fall off the chain in Mac OS 12.2 and later, including 12.4, I have proven. So, you know, they fall off the chain after the computer goes to sleep after it's been rebooted. So I don't want to have to deal with that. So I just turned off sleep for now. Well, Apple hopefully fixes it. So. Yeah. Interesting. So, you know, that's where we're at. That's that's where we're at. Let's see. Quick tips today. We got more quick tips. We have quick tips from you folks and listener. Paul brings us to the first one and I will find it. It's one of my favorite quick tips. I had no idea that this existed if you go into the finder and go to the view menu show preview or if you've got it up already, then you know that you can do this hide preview. Paul was was actually having a having a problem with previews sticking. And I had no idea maybe we've talked about it on the show before, but I it's not part of my my cognitive lexicon to know that there are previews available in finder. And it it's actually a pretty cool little little thing if you if you know what it is. But yeah, I've I've had it enabled for years. It never occurred to me that it that you could do. Yeah. And I love it. It's so that's exactly what I'm looking for. Yeah, it's faster. Yeah, you get a really sort of contextualized get info window. Yeah. Right there. Yeah, it's great if though, yeah, it tells you the size of the file. Oh, it does down at the bottom, like, for instance, in a photo, it gives you the resolution. That's really nice thing. Say which one am I looking at? Is that the small version? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I have an audio file here and it shows me the duration and sample rate in addition to sort of the, you know, the created modified last open with metadata, all the metadata. Yeah. Yeah, it's a cool thing. So thank you for unintentionally contributing that quick tip. Paul, and hopefully the issue that came up with. Oh, he was trying to hide it, right? He was trying to hide it. Yeah. Yeah. But again, he didn't like he was like, I have no idea how I turn this on. How do I turn it off? It's like, yeah, here we go. In the fantastic news department shared with us by I think Mark was the first one. Matt was was on board. Tony was there too. There were many, many, many, many of you who shared with us this fantastic news that Google has backpedaled on their Google workspace G Suite mandatory migration thing. If you are willing to testify with them that you will use your legacy free G Suite account for personal use only, then they will give you the legacy G Suite account for free forever, or at least for free again. We don't we can't say forever because, you know, we thought I'm doing here on the video. What a fish shake for everyone that is not watching for the for the majority of the audience. Pilot B, do you have a fish shake to share? Oh boy, do I ever because, you know, they I got it. Maybe I should have been more patient, you know, patients grasshopper, right? But yeah, the fact remains that I I saw it coming. I went ahead and put my billing data in there. So the legacy would continue on as it went from there. So it turns out I already do have my own server that I lease for my personal website and that sort of thing. So I'm kind of already paying for email anyway in there. So I migrated out of the Google workspace G Suite. Uh, whatever, whatever other name they've given it over the years and migrated all of that back over to my my server. So it's now managing my email. Um, if anybody knows a good divorce attorney I can please let me know because that's still maybe coming now. Mama was not real happy with with the hiccups to go along with transferring mail servers. No matter what you do or how you do it. The fact is, uh, you know, that as you pointed out at one point, Dave, three, four days later, they're still an occasional email hitting the old Google IMAP server. Well, and out of we presume that it was probably just a cash DNS that was pointed in that direction. But, uh, uh, that was painful. I have swapped it over. Uh, and I'm going to remain in now that I can go back for free. I think I'm just going to leave it. You're not going to do it. Yeah. Well, yeah, what I would recommend is that you go in and tell like, like do the jump back to free, which you can do if, if you haven't. So, so to catch everybody up, I want it free. Okay. Right. Yeah. You can now go into your Google either your G suite account that you haven't migrated, which you need to do something about before the end of this month. So you've got about a week, uh, but by June 1st, they will auto migrate you over unless you go in and, and do this attestation that you want to keep the free account and that you're using it for personal. And then it, and then it will just put you on that. But even if you had already migrated to the will be paid in the future account because they were, they give everybody four months free from when you migrate, uh, anyway, just because, uh, well, because they wanted to hedge their bets. I think and try to figure this out. But once you, uh, if you've done that, you can undo it. You can go in and, and change back to, to that. We'll put a link in the show notes that sort of walks through a few of these things. But, um, but yeah, it's back to free. And I do, I do understand your, your pain. Pete migrating my family away from the macobserver.com email addresses that they had used for, you know, like my children, their entire lives. Yeah. And my, my wife for, you know, the last 20 plus years of hers, I understand the, uh, the need to perhaps put the divorce attorney on, on speed dial because that was not a pleasant thing. No, I just want to do this. Yeah. For what, for what it's worth. What we wound up doing again, that, you know, I created an IMAP server and then mama already had a, uh, her own free Google Gmail account. Sure. And so she uses that as her main aggregator now and goes in and sucks all the mail in from the harm one. And, uh, she has a work email address to pulls it all into there. And then she has the Gmail app on iOS to consolidate it there as well, which she has actually really fallen in love with. So that's the Gmail app on iOS is pretty powerful. It is. Yeah. If you're, if you're not, if you don't want to stay tied into using mail, Apple's mail, then yeah, I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I was happy about this for, for obvious reasons. I have, you know, the family, the A family domain there and, and several other. So it was definitely need that link to go back in and do that at test station. I, yeah, just so you preserve it, because if you want to move to it in two years, having that account, it's there. Yeah. And I have one of mine that I moved away from Google years ago when I moved to fast mail, I like, like you were saying your wife did, I have all of my email from everywhere sort of funnel into one box. Yeah. And that's the box that I've had on fast mail now for years, but it used to be that domain and it's a personal domain of mine, but that domain used to be on G Suite before I moved it to fast mail. And so I went into that one too and did the attestation so that I've got the, I preserve the free account if I ever need to move back to it. Well, and I can do that. So I just love to be a fly on the wall though and know what kind of blowback Google got for trying to start charging money for something they've had free for years. I don't think you need to be a fly on the wall. I mean, you could listen to this show. You could read every, well, you could read like every tech blog out there, which just, yeah, it was a stupid thing. I mean, I get what I get what they're trying to do, but it came through in the most hamfisted hamfisted is up is a kind term. Yeah. Like, I think this was like shoot first and then decide whether or not you want to ask questions at a later date. Like it was, it doesn't make sense to me. You're already firing. Yeah, right. Yeah. Not even was like fire. Firing. What happened? Maybe we should get ready now of the trigger. Right. Yeah, I didn't even know there was a trigger. Like, it's yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. All right. Moving on. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want to you want to take us to Russell? John. Yes. Um, so Russell says just through the quick tip about charging iPhones on Mechagab 927. Thank you. Um, here's another quick tip for when you find your phone hasn't charged for some reason and you need to get it charged as quickly as possible. Since, uh, since the iPhone 6 plus there's been a fast charging mode connect a high powered USB charger using a USB C to phone. I think he needs lightning. Um, cable, uh, maybe it only works with Apple brand chargers. Maybe any brand. I don't know. Excuse me. As I have only an Apple USB C 29 watt charger. If the phone is really empty, then it starts slow to protect the battery, but at some point it takes off similarly once it gets to mostly full maybe 70% or so it slows down again. If you want to do this, then be aware that heat is produced while charging and you may need to take your phone out of the case that insulates it thermally or the thermal protection will cut in and reduce the charge rate. Yeah, I've actually been getting a heat warning as of late. The sun's coming out now. So, um, if I have it mounted in the car, which has a dark interior at some point it'll say I'm too hot. You see a little thermometer on the phone and it's like, I'm not going to work until I cool off and it's like, oh, okay. So where are you? Is this while it's charging in the car or just like if you lay it out? Yeah. So I have a, uh, I have a cheap mount. Okay. Okay. I wonder if a MagSafe mount would be less susceptible to this. I would guess it would. Uh, it could be because it maybe it manages the heat better than the regular charging mode. Right. Well, I mean, my, my, my speculation is based on, on the fact that she lines up, sorry, MagSafe lines up the chi connector as like as best as possible, right in the best scenario or best lineup as possible. So there's less charging power wasted to heat in the, I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say. Well, it also has, it's the vent, you know, most men, most of those chi chargers in the car are mounted on the vent. Right. So they're going to get some cooling air there. One would hope. Right. Yeah. Is your vent mount John or no? Uh, it's a window. It's a suction mount. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think I'll have to look through my bag of goodies. Like, I think I must have one. A MagSafe one. Buried somewhere. Yeah. If you, if you don't, I highly recommend the one that we talked about a few weeks ago in the car, the, the Skosci. Sorry. I don't know why I started saying Skosci for years. I've said Skosci and that's the way it's pronounced. The, the Skosci MagSafe mounts for the car are absolutely fantastic. They, they really, we have not yet seen a heat issue with it, but we were traveling last weekend when we had that, uh, that heat wave here in New England. So we have not, wait, I have not seen 90 degree weather yet for Sunday. Yeah. I'm aware. Yeah. Oh, it's coming. Yes. Yeah. It will, it will happen. I think tomorrow actually Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. Right. At least I'm when we're recording this. Yeah. Yeah. So to continue. Um, so he says, I just found my old iPhone XS Max large phone with big battery from 20% full in a thin plastic case. The battery is at 83% of original capacity after well over three years. So I support Dave's view that fast charging using a properly designed charging system is not an issue for batteries. Um, I would tend to agree. I actually looked at my phone and I'm at I think 84% after a couple of years. So, uh, all right. And then he did a test, um, at the start of the test, 20% full battery after five minutes. It was 28%, 10 minutes, 37%, 15 minutes, 45%. And so on. So about eight to 9% every five minutes. Um, all right. So I guess the other thing you want to look for is, uh, make sure that the cable that you get is, is a good cable because, um, you could run into charging efficiency issues unless you get the right cable. So how would you, how would you advise someone to go and like, what would qualify a cable as quote unquote good? Um, well, that's more for USB-C to USB-C charging. Okay. This is USB-C to lightning. So I, I mean, you get the Apple cable. But, um, but USB-C, but not just the Apple cable. Like, would you not recommend the anchor cable? Cause I use tons of those. Sure. Okay. All right. What I'm saying is some cables will restrict the charging level. Yeah. Especially those USB-C, some of some USB-C cables will not do like full hundred wide or more power delivery. Right. Right. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So just make sure you're, you're buying one that you think. Yeah. Now the other thing I wanted to mention and where is it? Um, yeah. Now there's also iOS, um, uh, the, the battery settings go to settings, battery, and you're going to see a couple of things here which may impact your charging speeds. So one that low power mode, which I have off, maybe I shouldn't. Um, and then you, if you click on battery health, so it will show the maximum capacity, it'll say whether it's a peak performance, which mine is, and then they have this optimized battery charging mode. Yeah. We want to look at that as well. Let's talk about what that is. Do you want to tell them you want me to take it? Um, well, it's right on the screen to reduce battery aging iPhone learns from your daily charging routine. So I can wait to finish charging past 80% until you need to use it. That makes sense. Yeah. I've noticed lately several times. Uh, I'll plug my phone in on nightstand at night and I'll go, I, it's, I'm going to wait till about 4 a.m. To charge you up completely. Ah, okay. Yeah. It's, it's nice that it's warning you that's what's going on. So you don't wake up at 3 and go, why isn't my phone charging? Right, right. Yeah, for sure. I wonder if there's a way to, oh, is there a way to override that though? Let's say I've got an early go and I need my phone charge when I get up at 3 30. I wonder if you could override that. Uh, you can turn that setting off. Yeah. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's under battery and setting. Do you think it is? Yeah, it's, uh, it's battery settings. And then in, in the battery health section is the optimized battery charging. There you go. That's right. Yeah. I remember now. Yeah. So dumb questions. Not a dumb question. That's a, it's a great question. Yeah. Hey, you found a quick tip this morning, Pete, and I realize our, our fast charging was more of a conversation than a quick tip. So, but, but that's fine. That's how the show works. It's all good. I did. I stumbled onto one and realized that I hadn't used it in a long time. If who out there has gone, you know, I had that conversation with Dave last week and I needed the, the link that he gave me and we're in you, and you wind up your scrolling, you're scrolling, you're scrolling, and you can't find it. Yeah. Well, guess what? In iOS, if you just go to messages and have all the contacts in there and you go to the middle of the screen and you pull down, you get a little search window at the top. And in this particular case, I was looking for a StreamYard link that you had sent me. So I pulled down, went to that search window and typed in StreamYard and it gave me all the links to StreamYard and all the mentions of StreamYard in our conversations and it lists them even by date. Here is the date, you know, it was May 6th that you sent me that link. Really? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, that was cool. So I thought I'd share that with everybody and it's available also in the messages app on Mac OS. Okay. Okay. The next time you find yourself going on, you know, I know I had somewhere in that text exchange with Joe. Yeah, right. You know, that's how you find it quickly, more quickly. So I, you know, I'm not sure I knew that that, that's a great quick tip. Let me just say it that way. Yes. Thanks. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. You're a fine squirrel. Yeah. No, it's, it's great. Yeah. It's a good reminder that, you know, these features that they add, yeah, makes a difference. Because I used to just scroll and scroll and then you get 40s back and you have to wait for it to load more. Right, right. And then it loads some more and you get some more days. Well, so here's the thing that I do to, well, now that the search feature is there, I think I'll, I'll use it more. But what I'll do sometimes is if somebody messages me and it's something that I know is important and I don't want to search for it. Create a new note and put it in there. So note is like my staging area for stuff that I should probably do someday. That's good. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Cool. All right. Let's see. Listener Bob has a quick tip for us getting back into that realm. He says, if you want to print out a keynote or PowerPoint presentation, often you can tell the print dialogue to put four slides on a page instead of one and it is still very readable or at least it should be. If your slides were going to be presented in a big room from far away, four up on a page should still be quite readable and it's one slide. You know, and it prints takes a lot less paper than than one slide per page. So yeah, it's good reminder that that feature is there and I don't know that I ever would have thought to use it that way. So thank you for that. Listener Bob. Good stuff. No, no, no, it's funny though because not all programs will let you do this. So I was like, oh, that's a neat tip. Let me go in Safari and print and it's like, nope. Really? Safari. Huh. I couldn't find an option to change, you know, do like a four up or something like that. But then I open photos and photos of course has it. Safari has it. If you go to the print dialogue in Safari and turn on show details so you can see all the settings, you will see a menu that that if by default will start with the name Safari, which gives you the options, the Safari specific options for print backgrounds or print headers and footers. But then you can go down that menu to lay out. There it is. And you change to pages per sheet, you know, and you can say for and you can kind of decide, you know, what order. Yeah. Yeah. So it's there for for most thing. Well, for anything that's using the Apple print dialogue, it's there. Some apps have, you know, kind of inserted their own redirect in there. And that might. Yeah. Yeah, I think this used to be in page setup. Remember that? Yes. Here. No, I see what they did. They folded it into that's right. Yeah. It's just I wonder if you can print the PDF that way. I bet you can. Oh, you know, I'm willing to try this while we do the show. That's a great idea, Pete. So what happens if I say paper handling? Sorry, lay out. Yeah. I just I just told everybody how to do this. So I say for and then I say well, I'll just say open in preview and I get a PDF in preview behind me that sure enough has things laid out for up. So yeah. So you could send a PDF that way to somebody so they don't have to figure out how that correct. Yeah. That's absolutely right. I love that. Wow. All right. That that blind squirrels. That's the quick. I that's a great one. Yeah. All right. I'm feeling lucky today. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah. Keep swinging for the fences, man. You're doing good. Um Kiwi Graham sent in a quick tip. He says, uh, it seems I just missed the memo about how much easier it is now to use split screen on the iPad. And so I'm going to read his note here because for me processing it this way was was truly the best reminder that this feature split screen mode on the iPad is now so much more intuitive, even though perhaps intuitive isn't the right word. It's it's easy to do once you know how to do it. Um, he said the first tip that I'll share is simply tap on the three dots at the center of any window that will present you. Uh, they show up just at the top of the screen. And, uh, that's where you start this whole process. And he said the second second tip for apps that allow it is that same tap on the three dots gives the ability to create or select multiple windows for the same app. Think of it like macOS browsers where you use command n for a new window rather than command t for a new tab. Okay. I like this. The third tip and for me, he says the most useful is that Apple mail and the spark mail app utilize split screen in slightly different ways to allow you to be drafting an email on one side while browsing through other emails on the other side. This is huge. Yeah, he says for Apple mail once you're in the compose pop up window, you can tap on those three dots at the top of the screen to choose to have it in split mode rather than in pop up mode and then you get access to all your messages behind things. And he says for spark, which is his preferred iOS mail client or iPad OS mail client says you use those three dots to choose split screen mode and then choose spark as the second app as well and draft your email in another window. So you're just re instantiating the app effectively and and creating a new message in one of them, which is similar to what you do in Safari because you can have Safari up multiple times and and that that works very well. So thank you for this Kiwi grammar reminder that yeah, there's there's good stuff to be done with split screen mode. I like it. It's good. Yeah. And then second one of the day, another fish shake because there are there are times on that iPad when I need to get to the top near the top center of that screen and one of the apps I use for work and it wants to give me all the split screen options and what I haven't tried is to see if you could swipe that little menu up out of the way. I need to go back and look at that. But why is that frustrating? There's I just need to get to that little center area up there. Yeah, those three dots and it keeps pulling down those options that I want nothing to do with at the time. So there you go. You had some some tangent on that the pre show we were going to talk about. But do you remember? I am talking about the well, the split screen in the menu not wanting it there. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's the the thought I had when you shared in pre shows just that like apps are written for the device of today. And then when you get that app running on the device of tomorrow, the you know, the developer needs to go back and those kinds of changes are not as easy to to adapt for once you've got the way an app works and all the paradigms are doing the things that they're doing and you've got this this flow. Now it's like, oh, we've got to change the flow. You know, it's like the notch right on the on the on the M1 MacBook Pros. It's like, OK, well now like if it's a thing that has a lot of menu items, you've got to account for this. And so, yeah, it's it's just it they aren't the easiest things to account for. But it's fine. These drive developers nuts. The things that drive developers nuts. Yeah, exactly. It's like, OK, this is great. I'm glad you have this amazing thing for split screen mode. But it's it's where you it's where you use to let us do things and that's the issue. Right. So if it isn't there, I guess my future request is the ability to swipe that up and out of the way. Right. Oh, have you tried simply swiping it? No, I haven't yet. I need to go do that. But I didn't knock the microphone over and thank you. Yeah, that's all that in the middle. I think you almost knocked the microphone over while the theme music was playing at the in the beginning of the show. I heard I heard something. You can't prove a thing. Well, I heard it. So I figured, you know, it's there's that old old rule in theater. Yeah, where they say if you drop something on the floor in the middle of a scene, pick it up. Yeah. Yeah. Because you were supposed to. Right. Well, either one, but don't pretend that this thing you dropped on the floor is not on the floor because every single human in the room knows it's on the floor. Looking right at it. They're looking right. They've stopped looking at you and they're looking at the stupid thing knocked on the floor. So if you make it part of the scene, you know, for one show only, that's the way to do it. So yeah, I always try to acknowledge those things that that are there. Speaking of mail, John, we had a quick tip from listener Ed. Yeah. I think right. Yes. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. There he is. I like this one. Same. Easy. Here's a quick tip. I stumbled upon I was going to compose an email on my phone. And as I thought about who I needed to include in the mail, I discovered a screen I'd never seen before. If you long press on the compose icon, the square with the diagonal line in the bottom right hand corner, it will open up your save drafts. So you can quickly hop back into a partially completed email. I usually write my drafts and notes or the iOS app drafts. This quick access is enough for me to rethink my workflow. And yeah, sure enough. For those that are wondering, how do you get a draft? If you start composing an email and you abandon it, you'll, I think on pretty much any platform, you'll get a dialogue saying, hey, you want to save this draft? And if you say yes, it puts it in your drafts folder, which you may also notice if you look in your mail client. So that's neat. And actually I did this and I had a draft that was probably like five years old that I had totally forgot about. So I'm thinking I shouldn't go look because it'll be like, wait, that whole thing about that deal. I sent that. No wonder I never got that. I have probably a hundred drafts out here. So I'm going to go ahead and take a look at those this weekend. And I might or might not choose to do it with a cocktail on the other hand, because I'm sure there's going to be a few in there where it's like, oh, this is going to hurt. I could be mistaken, but I think if you abandon an email on iOS, you don't get that dialogue, but it automatically saves every go off and into your drafts. All right. Yeah, I think my guess is that most and my hope is that all of these emails that I find in there are going to be like those things where it's like it started. It got put in drafts and then another version of it got sent out. So that's that's fingers are crossed. Yeah, I mean, it's it's, you know, whatever. I suppose there's a funny story to tell. I always, you know, whenever there's an issue or something, I just like it's like the theater thing. I just try to acknowledge it. Like, you know, sometimes it leads to a more a better foundation of trust in the relationship when you show up and you're like, hey, remember that thing I replied to you about two months ago? No, because I never sent the reply. You know, I screwed up. That's fine. No. Hey, one thing that I don't think I screwed up this week, though, is we a while back. We grabbed the domain mgg.fm and I had this idea this week. I was like, OK, I wonder if I could do something interesting with it. And I did. So if you just go to mgg.fm, it'll redirect you to mackeykeb.com and and all that. And yes, emails to feedback at mackeykeb.com or work. That's that's that's the preferred way to email us. But if you really want to save your digital footprint and and type less characters feedback at mgg.fm, we'll also go to us. It'll mean that John and Pete will have to set up additional filters on their email like I have now. But but you're welcome, guys. However, the really cool thing that I did is that I wired it up so that if you type in mgg.fm slash episode number, it will bring you to that episodes page. So you don't need to think about any other URL structure. If you want to go to mackeykeb. Well, if you want to go to mackeykeb number one, that's that's your choice. It's not a recommendation. Don't do it. But it's there mgg.fm slash one. But like episode one hundred is all right there. Like, you know, if you want to go to last week's last week's episode, the Synology one, it's mgg.fm slash 928. And I was there for show 100. I think so. Yeah, I think so. I can click on a link in in the show notes at mackeykeb.com and and see it. I'm trying to think. Does it do we say? I don't know. I don't know that important. Yeah, I just seem to recall it. I might have been there for 100 because it was kind of a milestone. It was. Yeah, I just don't know that we knew each other retrospective then it was a retrospective about the computers that we had used. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's back when we were playing nation states. We had that that whole online game thing nation states that we were all playing in the Geeks Unite region. So I forgot about that. Anyway, so if you want to trip down memory lane or if you just want to find an old episode, you know, because we said, oh, in episode 926, we talked about this thing, mg.fm slash 926. Get you right there. Do you have any other ideas about things that we could or should might do with that? Let us know. Feedback at mg.fm or, you know, mackeycap.com feedback at mackeycap.com We feedback at mackeycap.com. Yeah. And if mackeycap.com is too hard to say, mg.fm does work. So you do at mg.fm. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now, in iOS, if you cancel out at mackeycap, does indeed say delete draft or save draft? Oh, it does. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Or maybe there's a setting for that because I've seen it happen automatically like where I haven't chosen to do it. But who knows? I think there's another safe setting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. That's my recollection. All right. Well, quick tips took 41 minutes. And now we have a bunch of your questions to get to. So we have actually some great stuff to do. And the next great thing to do if it works for you, Mr. Braun is I would love to tell everybody about our three sponsors for this episode. Sounds good. All right. You know, spending our work days jumping from one platform to another for every single task is productivity poison. 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So Steve says my fellow geeks other than the advantage of alignment you have an opinion of the benefits of MagSafe versus Qi charging. I have heard mentioned before the heat can be the enemy of battery life. Do you know if the higher power of a MagSafe charger with better alignment would be better than a low power Qi charger when it comes to heat or charging efficiency. I have the old Belkin 3 and 1 charger shown here and it's a flat surface. I was considering this new 3 and 1 MagSafe charger as a replacement and it looks like the space is things out. Yeah, a little nicer. Am I overthinking this as I usually do? No, I don't think so. From what I could tell MagSafe certified charger can get up to 15 watts like Apple's advertiser can go up to that versus Qi whichever call correctly or at least the early ones that I have do about 7 watts. So now speaking of heat though this is neat. We I sent a link to this here. Samsung Qi certified fast charge wireless charger pad with cooling fan. So apparently the smart people over at Samsung realize that heat kills. So you're right about that but really you got you got to check the specs. There's no guarantee that you're going to get 15 watts or up to 15 watts. If you want to know how much power is being consumed you could get one of those nifty little USB A or USB C power meters and it'll tell you some things typically the voltage and the current and if you multiply those you get watts. Interesting stuff man. So now there's also Yes, let me link unless you already did. I'll take care of the links which we put but they have an article also that goes into a little more detail so I'll paste that in but it's how to use your MagSafe charger with an iPhone 13 model or iPhone 12 model. So so they touch on some of the things in there but go ahead. Well, my question is do we we know how much power she can draw at a maximum and we know how much power MagSafe can draw at a maximum. We've got you know, seven and a half. I think some chargers will go up to 10 watts but I don't know if Apple's devices do that yet but like anyway you've got you've got the draw of seven and a half or 10 watts on Qi and then you've got the draw of what should we call it the you know 15 watts on MagSafe but what's the output to the device right because that's the that's the part that matters like the delta between 15 watts and whatever your device gets via MagSafe while the rest is heat right so that would be the real question is do we have the ability to know how much of that power is actually getting to the device versus being lost in heat in the transfer and my understanding with Qi initially was that it was very unscientifically about half. So the question is does MagSafe because of all the things we talked about earlier does that make it more efficient and therefore you know by nature of efficiency there's less less lost in in heat in the transfer and I think I think it does but I can't find anything that supports that so I could just be making it up. Yeah. Well if you got a circuit diagram you could kind of compute it my doubly days are long behind me but I'm well could you though I mean with this I don't think the circuit would tell you the iPhone would have to tell you right the recipient device would have to because the the the Qi charger or the the MagSafe charger doesn't it only knows how much power it's sending out it doesn't know how much power the device is receiving right so so like yeah someone needs to write an app for that it would yeah an app like I wonder does coconut battery show you if you're if you're wired in well but if you're wired in you're charging over the cable and all of this goes out the window yeah yeah I don't know I don't know the answer here but I I would like to yeah if you knew the value of the coils and you knew the right formula you should be able to calculate yes that's fair yes that's fair right yeah of course of course yeah and the distance between them so you know whether you've got a case on your phone or not will absolutely make a difference here you know we have MagSafe cases but they are also insulators at some level because that's how you know physics works at least in our timeline here so so physics works in the category of cheap and worth it when these three and one chargers first came out I think I did some sort of Google search and and bought one through one of the big box retailers and it came directly from a slow boat from China sure yep it was this is a waste of thirty five or forty bucks I the one that's on the screen right now is is a Belkin yeah hundred figure hundred fifty dollars one forty nine ninety nine and I'm you know Belkin makes good stuff they do sort of works and and all that but don't don't go cheap on that you're you're just you're at it it lasted about two days I kind of related to the last question yeah I just lost that it'll come back to me ah the same information yeah total I think the new Apple watches I went to an Apple Watch seven about three or four months ago I think the new Chargers with that for some reason are faster yes Chargers yes so it isn't just my no it's my old charges faster take longer okay yeah so yeah and I I don't know if it's the Charger or the watch itself is capable of being charged seems to me when I put it on the old charger it charges but not as fast as interesting Pete's purely observational. I haven't hit that stopwatch and see where. Yeah. Well, let us know, folks, if if you have experienced that, or if you know anything about it, feedback at Mackie Cub dot com. We'll research it during the week, too. But then you can also join our discord channel at Mackie Cub dot com slash discord. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting stuff. Like, like I I am still not using wireless charging next to my bed because it's I plug in. Well, it's just too. I haven't had. Brush it. Right. Slightly off here, we wake up with a dead phone with a dead phone. That's it. Yeah, I haven't I haven't found the right form factor of a MagSafe beside the bed charger that that is truly MagSafe. There are some key chargers that have magnets. And I realize that's also the description of MagSafe. However, there is a distinction there where MagSafe is is lining it up in a very different way. And and, yeah, the ones that I've used, the key chargers with magnets for alignment that I've used have not yielded consistent results or reliable results. Yeah, you're never going to get that. A wired connection, whether it be networking or charging, is always going to be faster. Well, it's not the speed. No, it's it's not the speed. It's not the efficiency because I've got, you know, I'm going to sleep for five plus hours, right? It's that like Pete said, if if that phone gets knocked or nudged, it stops charging. And then you wake up with dead phone and sometimes like hot dead phone because it's like, you know, yeah, it's bad news. Yeah. So that's why I think that three and one charger you had up on the screen earlier in the show was, yeah, there it is. It's this is the Belkin one you mentioned, John, that the three in one wireless charger with MagSafe. Yeah, I think that's probably the best form factor there is if you insist on doing a MagSafe charge on your nightstand. Yeah. No, I that's my personal opinion only. No, I agree. It's it looks to be, you know, it's just a small little disc. And there's the obviously by the name three and one, it's got MagSafe for your phone, a puck for your watch. And then a chi pad that in their pictures, they put AirPods on, but you could put anything chi on there. So, yeah, just don't be tempted to put your phone on that puck. Or, yeah, otherwise, you know, yeah. All right. Where are we here? Would you work with your personal phone on the MagSafe one and your work phone on the puck? So, you know, you may not have to enter any calls tomorrow. That's right. That's right. That's right. I am super proud. Remember, the listeners will remember, I don't know, five or six weeks ago, mid episode, my air purifier here in the studio decided it was time to overly clean the air, perhaps because Pete and I were both in here together. So now I have my podcasting focus mode, which keeps really all it does is it stops all notifications except notifications from you guys and my other two podcast hosts. And it's great. Like it works really well. Well, I created an automation on my phone that runs without interaction. You know, it doesn't have to prompt me. I told it not to prompt me in the shortcuts app. I created an automation that when podcasting focus mode gets turned on, it turns off my home kit compliant air purifier. And when podcasting focus mode is turned off, it turns on my home kit air purifier. And it's the sensible air purifier. But but that now it's great. So I have no I don't have to worry about that thing automation. I love it, man. Yeah, it's great. All right, John, you want to take us your dealer's choice. You want to take us to Craig or to Bob? I like Craig. All right. Craig, it is. Let's do it. Interesting. Yeah. All right. So Craig says, in order to connect the RAID drive to my 2015 iMac running 12.3.1, I had to install soft RAID. The program has several times presented the error in the screenshot below. The error is not from the RAID drive I just installed. It is from an SSD that I have been using for some time now. I ran this utility first day and they detected no errors. Yeah, no shock there. I know you guys haven't much faith in the smart status, but I was wondering if this is something I should be worried about. The drive has seemed to work fine for several months. Also, if soft RAID found this smart error, why hasn't my system picked this up before? Sure. And the error is as follows. Disk protected to fail based on smart data. The soft RAID monitor is detected at disk, which is 20 to 60 times more likely to fail over the next two to six months than a normal disk. The prediction is based on the smart data retrieve from the disk. Please launch the soft RAID application to determine which disk is predicted to fail, which I assume he did. Sure. Now, what it sounds like it doesn't do, which is annoying, is tell you which smart parameter. Some utilities will let you read the raw data. For example, the one that I like is called smart reporter. And embedded within it is something called smart mon tools. Or you can compile that separately on the command line and that will show you all of the smart values. Now, I don't know how smart they are about detecting what's, haha, yeah. I don't know which parameter set them off. I mean, it could have been, I mean, I don't know if it's bad blocks. It could be over temperature. That's the thing that will set RAID off if you're looking for it. The utility I found that does the best prediction is drive DX. Oh, from our friends at brinary fruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It shows you both the raw and then it'll give you like a compilation. And sometimes like I had this happen, I took a really old drive and plugged it in and it immediately came up and said, whoa, dude, this drive is about to fail. It's a 10 year old Hitachi, one gigabyte drive that I still have in my turbo and it hasn't failed. It's like 10 years old. Unbelievable. Fault tolerance is your friend with a drive that old. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I have, yeah, double redundancy in that thing. Sure. Sure. Yeah. That's great. So that's what I got on that. Of course, we have, what did Brian say here? I think that Brian said this. Replace the drive. Best not to mess around with it. I'd like to know a little more. Yeah. Personally. I waffle back and forth between those two things. Like there are times when I see a drive start to fail and it's like, all right, I just go on Amazon. I buy its replacement and I implement the replacement. And then other times I'll be like, well, let me take it out and let's see. Let's run some tests. But when drives, drives rarely get better. And in fact, they rarely plateau, although I have seen it happen. So the term rarely is anecdotal, meaning you'll see it start to get worse and then it doesn't continue to get worse. That's the rarity. Most of the time when it starts to take a nosedive, I've found it like it's not going. I had that once with my Synology. At first it was like, oh, there's one bad block. And then I'm like, okay, let's wait and see. And then, you know, like I looked a couple of days later, it was like, oh, now there's 50 bad blocks. I'm like, okay, we know where this is going. Gotta go. Yeah. Yeah. It goes like a cancer often. Yeah. I mean, if a single block fails, usually the drive will remap it, but right. That's right. You won't even know that it happened. Yeah. No, that's a that's a fair point. Right. You won't know it happened and it probably won't trigger any smart reports unless you've got things like really tight. But but you're right. Yeah. Seeing, you know, single blocks here and there reported as failed, it it's it's good to be aware of so that you can sort of monitor the patterns. But that's not the worst. But like you said, when you start seeing, you know, when it's every week, you're getting reports like, oh, yeah, we got another 50 blocks. It's like, cool. So the question I have. Is am I doing enough? My Synology Drive sends me an email once a week that says my Synology Distation sends me an email once a week. It's sure all all drives seem to be operating normally. Yep. Just leave it at that. Where do I need to go in there and grind those suckers down? Well, you know, the nice part about it is any sort of redundant system and a Synology, you're probably running single drive redundancy, you know, Drobos generally are single drive. You can do double with each of them. The nice part about that is you don't have to either. You have you have a little bit of a safety net there. So like I tend to trust for my Synology, I trust the emails that I get from it every week or every month or whatever it is that say, yeah, you know, things are things are good. No problem. Keep going. Things are going swimmingly. Yeah. So yeah, carry on. Yeah, exactly. So so yeah, I basically follow that same path. But as soon as it starts to tell me about something, that's when I look and I'll even look historically, you know, because I manage the Synologies for a couple of family members or whatever. And if I get one and it's like, oh, this is it, you know, 112 bad blocks, like, all right, well, let me look at the last three months and we've been at 112 for three months. And if so, like, you know what, let's let it ride. Let's see what happens. But if it's growing, it's like, OK, it's so it does tell you I have found some bad blocks this week. Yeah, because I've never gotten anything. But hey, you're doing fine. And yeah, I mean, knocking wood here, right? It's a lot of years with those same drives. I'm going to say two or three years now. There that's there. Yeah, that's pretty normal. I find Mike, as people know, my experience with iron wolf drives has been horrible. Like they, you know, I get like two years out of them. But the and consistently, I'm not sure why I know others have had decent luck with them, including you, John, right? Like your iron wolf drives have been OK. I think I've had one fail in the number of years that I've had them. OK, but, but, you know, other than the iron wolves and even those have lasted two to three years before they start giving me trouble. But, you know, otherwise, you have five years or even like John said, you know, ten years, although that's a ten years with a Hitachi drive. I just have so many bad memories of those dying. Yeah, they made crappy drives for a while. Well, I think it was actually I pulled it out of one of my old Macs, so it was a co-branded. So it was a Tachi drive, but it had a little apple on it. Right, right. Yeah, Hitachi was making Apple's drives for a while. And that was was it was a rotational drive, right? Yeah. Yeah, they they loved that click of death. Those those Hitachi drives. Yeah. So, but, you know, again, you've got some fault tolerance in your in your drobo. So I think you're all right. Oh, where are we on time here? We got time for a little bit more. Let's let's. Oh, yeah, you brought up a good point here. Listen for the click of death of their mechanical drives. Yes. Yeah. If you hear that happening like that jumps and you'll know if you've never heard the click of death before, you'll know the drive makes a clicking sound that you've never heard, you know, and it it's loud and snappy and it doesn't sound right. And if the drive still works after you hear the click of death and sometimes it does, you know, it's the click of impending death. Treat it that way. You know, your your first priority now is to make sure you have all the data off of that thing. And then once you either have that or have that in process, the second priority is to buy its replacement because it's going. Yeah. And I have to mention it, though. Why? Because because I think it's strictly a Windows slash DOS thing, but it's Steve Gibson wrote spin rate. Which is an amazing utility for discs with problems and recovery. If you drive craps out on you, you can go get stuff off of it that that otherwise it would never boot. You couldn't get to it. That sort of thing spin rates amazing. He's been working for many, many years on the follow on to it. That's supposedly bootable across or usable across all platforms. And I have I lost the bead on where exactly that was. But if you have access to an old Windows system or Unix Ubuntu Unix or something like that, this thing boots into its own DOS and gets right down to the very gut level of spinning drives. And it turns out, I do remember him saying this on the newest version that it inadvertently does wonderful on on solid state drives as well. No kidding. Yes. Oh, I wouldn't have even thought to try it on that. I mean, I guess if I were if I were back against the wall, I might think try it. It accidentally works wonders on solid state drives to which he was pleasantly surprised by. Yeah, amazing. Cool. I don't know where that stands. I haven't listened in way too long to. Yeah, right. We're just on that. Right, right, right. It's been right. It's cool. It's been right. It's cool. I agree. I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good stuff. All right, Brian wrote in and asked us. He said where it is. He says I'm looking for a recommendation on a Wi-Fi app to help me figure out what's going on around my house with neighbors Wi-Fi and the like. What can I use on my iPhone to scan for other Wi-Fi networks? And the unfortunate part is that Apple's APIs do not allow third party developers to tap into the Wi-Fi radio at that level so you don't get to release they don't get to really see the radios. And as such, there are no third party apps to do Wi-Fi scanning on the iPhone. There is however a first party app that you can download from the App Store. It is Apple's airport utility. And then once you have it installed, you go onto your iPhone, you go to settings airport utility and you turn on Wi-Fi scanner, then launch airport utility and you will see in the upper right hand corner of airport utility Wi-Fi scan hit that and it will be the worst most rudimentary Wi-Fi scanner you've ever experienced. You get data in there that is requires you to make charts and graphs and you know with circles and arrows on the back of each one so that you can understand what it is it's telling you but the data is there. It will show you SSID and signal strength and channel and it's a nightmare to try and actually figure out what what important data it's telling you, but that's the way to do it with your iPhone. Unfortunately with a Mac. My favorite app these days is Wi-Fi Explorer. It's part of set app. It's from Intuit bits. I think that's the right URL. Yeah, and we'll put a link in the show notes to it. It the way it graphs things out in the way it shows things that really helps to make sense of what's going on where conflicts are, you know, all of that good stuff. So so that that's that's those are the two apps. You've got airport utility on iOS and and then for me, I like Wi-Fi scanner on the Mac. There's others though. John, which one are you using these days? Um, I still like I Stumbler. Okay, because it's just been out forever and it does lots of things. Um, the other one that that may be good for this though, Dave is I've mentioned this before is NetSpot. Oh, okay. And they actually added a Wi-Fi analyzer. So in the beginning. So with what this program does is let's you do what's known as a site survey, which is probably what you need. So what you do is you make a map of your house or you know, yeah, each story make a map, you know, try to get as close as possible. I've actually, you know, pulled out a ruler and all that. Um, once you get a map, you then run the site survey mode and you basically pop into each sector on that floor and then say, okay, sample everything you see here. And once you're done with this activity, you'll get a very nice visual representation of the signal strength at various areas. So that'll probably show you, um, well, they have a Wi-Fi scanner too. So you could use that to see who's close to you and, and you know, blowing you away or the site survey. So that, that's, that's my two cents. Interesting. And you know, you don't have to break out a ruler, John. You can use the iPhone measure app, right, which is pretty magical. Um, yeah, it's pretty crazy how, how it can do what it do. There are too many people with big brains on this planet. I'm glad for it. Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah. So yeah, it's amazing. All right. Uh, let's see. Do we have time for one more? Yeah. Take us to Bob. Would you please, John? I think Bob's a good way to, to wrap things up. Even though I think it'll, where did Bob's question go? It's in Evernote, but I'll, I'll read you Bob's question and you can, you can answer it. No, the last one, Brian. I filed it because I file all the questions. It's, uh, we don't see it in the agenda anymore. Oh, it's in the agenda. It's, it's above us, but it's fine. I'll read Bob's question. It says, uh, hey, Dave and John, I hate to bother you guys with this as I know how busy you must be, but I really need help finding out how to download YouTube videos. I'm responsible for showing some videos at a large Baha'i conference that we are having next week, but I prefer, uh, to just have the video on my hard drive instead of having to rely on the Wi-Fi and all of that, uh, with my iPhone. He says, I've done quite a bit of searching on Google, but I haven't really found a perfect solution yet. Any help would be appreciated. John. Um, I would say my vote, my favorite one that I found, Dave, is Downey. Okay. Uh, the good news is if you have set up, uh, you can get it from there. Oh, okay. All right. So, and I've had it work fine for me. It puts a little, little icon in, in the, in the menu bar area and you just go to a YouTube page or I guess any page that has a video and you click on it and it downloads it to the folder of your choice. Cool. How about you, Pete? Which one do you use? Um, hang on. Okay, good. Okay. I thought I had muted myself when I was off screen looking for something else. So I've used Downey and, uh, also in set app, which I didn't realize Downey was in there. John, thanks for mentioning that. Uh, Pultube is also in there and, uh, they're pretty cool. I don't think it's limited to YouTube. I think it's any video site you take that URL and you put it into that app and it goes and it grabs the video off of that, off of the URL for that page. Uh, if there's video there, it's pretty versatile. Although I do find that there's been times when I go there and it goes, yeah, I can't get the video. There's, there's a problem. I can't get it. And I've never researched really why. Sure. I guess your other option is to do a screen capture slash record. Obviously that's the long way around. Right. Yeah. But that would, I mean, that would get you there for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. The old days, I would actually search through the source for the page and search for like dot mp4. Oh yeah. And copy the link out of the source and then paste it into a new page and it downloads the video for you. Yeah, that would work. I mean, yeah, in the old days that worked it nowadays, like, yeah, they're chunking things and streaming it and not just barfing the entire contents of, of the file at you. So yeah. But yeah, I know that makes sense in the old days. Brian Monroe in the chat room at mckycup.com slash discord says, well, if you want to do it legally, you pay for YouTube premium, which is, is it many people might not know that that's, you know, a feature of YouTube premium. So that's, we'll put that in the show notes too. That's great to know. Yeah. I don't know why. Actually, I do know why it doesn't, it's still, I still don't have a good justification for it, but I still use yt-dlp, which is the terminal command line equivalent. I just, you just brew install yt-dlp and then you invoke it that way. I am 99% certain that Downey and pulltube would be leveraging the open source codebase that, that this is based on because why would you reinvent the wheel, right, you know, and they're just putting a wrapper over it. But, I'm always wanting to choose my destinations of things and I don't know why I use the terminal. I gotta, I gotta just install Downey or something. It's stupid. I don't know. I get some satisfaction out of like pasting the link in the terminal. How many people have made lots of money putting wrappers on terminal commands, right? Oh, for sure. Right. So, and again, I don't like, yes, good on them because it's good for us. You know, Apple is a company who has made a lot of money putting wrappers on terminal commands because every bit of, of like system preferences on your Mac or the settings app on your iPhone is a wrapper over things that you could do with terminal commands on the iPhone. You'd need a terminal, which of course is a whole other topic discussion. But, but yeah, no, it, it, I, yeah, I, it's ridiculous that I'm, that I have set up. I have access to those two apps that you mentioned and why, and yet I still use YT dash DLP. There's no, somewhere I was going through the notes. I noticed John wrote back to one of the questions or quick tips, something about the fact some feature went away and he goes, well, you can still do it in the terminal. And I don't remember what it was, but so if there's a feature or something that you want, John, you may, I don't know if I've jogged your memory or not, but if there's a feature or something you want, chances are good. It's there in the terminal is like you said, there's, yeah, yeah, so much more versatile. You pretty much set up the next question. Yeah, there you go. Oh, okay. So we didn't get there yet. I don't know that there is a next question, but next time we will have a next question. That's for sure. It's, but it is, it is time to bring the band in from the outside. We are, we are a well past time, but it's good news because we have a next question and that will be the, you know, on the agenda for next week. Yeah, absolutely. It's good stuff. Now you have to do another show. Now we have to do another show. So 9 30 will exist. Yeah. Thanks for hanging out with us, folks. Hey, Pete. Yeah, you're doing a thing, man. Speaking of another show. Yes. So fair warning. It is explicit, but it's two pilots talking, right? Pilots talking. It has to be explicit. Of course it was explicit. I'm not sure which, but yeah, it's international maritime law. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that's right. So another former Harrier driver and I, we were in a gun squadron together 30 some years ago. Oh boy. Do I feel old saying that call sign fig Chuck Newton and myself repeat. We're doing a show called. So there I was, which is however great aviation fails. I like it. So if you go to so there I was US. No, nothing. You you can hear the inaugural episode words and all blowing into the mic, Mike getting knocked over birds in the background. And and we talk call science and it quickly goes off the rails. It goes south fast, but and we will try to tighten it up particularly with the acronyms. I noticed that we use a lot of acronyms in the show and but that's part of why we're doing it so that people can become familiar with all those acronyms. Cool and we had fun doing it and it first show is just the two of us. We promise to bring in lots and lots and lots of aviation recon tours who will tell them the hilarious, the tragic, the incredible and we hope to have some fun with it and ensure some of the some of the blessings of aviation be that with with everybody. I'm I'm a subscriber. I'm in awesome. I love this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, let me say up front. Thank you to you, Dave, especially for all the technical support and my pleasure. You've given me up front to get this thing launched in off the ground without having to do a reject. We didn't do a reject to take off yet. That's good. Yeah, yeah, especially I still if I had known that it was too hairier pilots, I might have said I can't be involved in this because that's too crazy for me. But but we're going to let it pass for now and it's going to be OK. That's right. Yeah. Thanks so much for hanging out with us, folks. Thanks for sending in all your questions. As we mentioned a couple of times during the show feedback at Mac Keekab dot com is where you can send in more of your questions and tips. We'll have some cool stuff found next week. In fact, we have a huge list of cool, cool stuff found to get through. So we're excited about that. John, you have anything to share with them before before I play the outro music here? Any places to find us or anything? All right. Well, keep. Keep having fun. Check out our sponsors that we mentioned in the episode. Kota dot i o slash m g g linkedin dot com slash m g g and collide k l i d e dot com slash m g g stay subscribed. If you would, if you aren't subscribed to subscribe, tell a friend about the show. That's that would be amazing. John, are you sure you don't have anything else to share today? I don't think I do. Like, I think Pete does. Don't you Pete? Well, if you insist, I can give you one piece of advice that has served me well throughout my aviation career. Don't get caught. That's good advice.