 What's up everybody? Welcome into the Sunday night fantasy recap presented by fan Duel. I'm your host Simon joined as always by my very handsome co-host John Lugroffalo and Jay Gman Jay. What's up guys? What up? What a day of football. My goodness. Some games that looked ugly early that turned it just just. Golly. Golly. What a day of football. Golly G will look. Golly G. What a day of the good old American pastime football that we have today. Oh, shucks on that network television. Woke up bright and early, mowed the lawn, went to church and then came home and watched that good old game of American football all day long. Don't forget to adjust those rabbit ears. Absolutely. No, but Jay, I'm going to amend your statement a little bit. We had some, we had some shit football today too, but we had a couple really good games. The games, sorry, we had some shit football today, but, um, but we had some really good games as well. And some that we didn't expect to be great. Maybe that Jets Browns game a lot more exciting than we thought it was going to be. Um, the Ravens dolphin's game outperformed, uh, at least Vegas's expectations from a point perspective right there. But you're right. This was, this was another fun week, maybe not up to like the week one standards of like chaos. You know what I mean? I think we set the bar pretty high, but it's been a pretty good week too. Pretty good week two so far. I know we got some people in the chat here hanging out with us as well. If you've got questions about today's games, if you want to know what's up, what moves you need to make, if you should react overreactor, underreact to anything that's happened, anything we're talking about through those questions in the chat, because we want to hear and we want to help you guys out as well. And if you're watching this video, that means you're probably already on the FanDuel, YouTube, Twitch, or Facebook. If you're on Facebook, hit that like button. If you're on Twitch, make sure you follow. And if you're on YouTube, subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube. Not only are we here, but they've got some other awesome content creators almost as cool as we are helping you guys win some money and win your league. So you're going to want to be subscribed on YouTube. Hit that big red button. Are we ready to get into our first game? Let's do it. Let's do it. The very first game that we're going to be talking about today, we already alluded to it, but it is this Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, absolute barn burner classic of a game we got. I love this game, guys. I'm so sad I was not at this game, but I couldn't. Couldn't go to this game. I had to watch the games. I had to recap with you guys. The Baltimore Ravens, they almost won this game, but they did not. They almost won this game. They did not, as Tim would love to rub it in my face. They came out hot in this one. Hold on. Let me pull this up real quick. Ravens, they scored. Devon DuVernay started this game off strong with a kickoff return. Of course, I was fading him all week, so that's probably why he did that. 103 yard kickoff return. That's disgusting. And the Ravens just kept it going. In the second quarter, Jalen Waddle, he had a pass, a six-yard touchdown pass from Tua. While the Ravens followed that with a shot bait, and a 75-yard touchdown pass from Lamar, then Mark Andrews, a nice little one-yard pass score, putting this game at seven to 28 and a half, seven to 28 and a half, but the Miami Dolphins found a way to gain back. They scored 28 points in the fourth quarters, guys, 28 points. Tua had an insane game. I think he had six touchdowns, right? So that says six touchdowns, 469 yards, 36 completions on 50 attempts. Five-zero, five-zero. So let's start on the Miami side of this ball. Guys, can we put, can we finally put these Tua concerns to rest that he cannot throw the ball, that he cannot be a starting quarterback in the NFL? Simon, you and I have been toot-tooting to his horn all all season. Is this finally redemption for us? We have been toot-tooting this horn all off season jail. And man, it feels good to see a game like this from him, right? Like, we're not going to expect a six touchdown every week, but dude looked good out there. Dude looked in control. One of the interceptions was, I wouldn't even say completely his fault, but when you throw six touchdowns, who cares if you throw two picks as well, right? Like, it doesn't really matter for fantasy or for this game either. They still came out on top. I think Tua has shown enough. And it was put up or shut up, right? With them adding Tyree Kill to this offense for like the moves that they made. If you can't succeed with Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle as your one and two, then it's time to move on. But you know what? Looks like he can't perform with those two guys on the field. I'm just, I loved this game that like watching Tua go out there and just sling that ball around for six touchdowns made every single thing I said about him this off season, like, like feel worth it, right? Like, like you worry all off season, you put your flag on these certain players and who was the dude? I thought he was. He's awesome out there. Well, I gotta say, I'm a little upset that you don't declare me as a Tua tutor as well, because I was also a Tua tutor all off season. And there was a lot of people that were concerned with Tyree Kill coming to Miami. What that was going to mean for Jalen Waddle? Well, they both had pretty good games. There's no concern for me anymore that they're both can't put up week one wide receiver, one week's weekend and week out with Tua. There's, you have Tyree Kill Tua. Well, when Tua throws for 469 yards, there's plenty available for both of those receivers. Like that's absurd. What an absurd style. Tyree kill 11 receptions on 13 targets for 190 yards and two touchdowns. Jalen Waddle 11 receptions on 19 targets, 171 yards and two touchdowns. You heard that right. Two touchdowns for each of them. That's why he does. That's that's absurd. That is truly absurd. But I know some of my fantasy teams out there were loving it. My wide receiver early teams stack up with Jalen Waddle and Tyree kill. This was a fun game. This was a fun fantasy game. So this brings up the question guys. Is Tyree kill Jalen Waddle, the most powerful duo in the NFL for fantasy? Still got to give it to even though they're they're struggling today, still got to go. Jamar Jason T. Higgins until, you know, it's it's two weeks in. Hill and Waddle look pretty good, but I got to see it over an extended period of time before I can just hand the crown over. What do you think, Sammy? Do you think it's Devontae Adams, Hunter Renford instead? I think this is where we start like like sniffing around that conversation. You know what I mean? Like we're not quite there yet where we can say this is the best wide receiver duo in the NFL, but we're sniffing it. We're sniffing that conversation. Like whenever you bring that up, I think these names, they have to be brought up, right? Because if Tula can support them, they've got a real argument to be the best dude. Jalen Waddle, if it wasn't for Jamar Chase last year, we would have been talking about him all off season about what an elite rookie performance he had, right? And then they add Tyree Kill. There was Jamar Chase to take some of the shine off. And so I think Jalen Waddle kind of, I don't want to say went under the radar, but whenever you talk about these other high profile rookies, you kind of did go under the radar, right? For what he was going to do with Tyree Kill being added here, but he's an elite prospect. Like whenever he came out, go look at the notes that evaluators had about him. He is considered up there with the best of the best to come into the NFL and he's showing us he can perform on that level. We already knew Tyree Kill was one of the best in the NFL period and he's doing it without Patrick Mahomes now. So we see that it wasn't just the Mahomes factor. Like I don't know. I think you can make a convincing argument right now that these are the two, like this is the best wide receiver duo in the NFL. Not ready to call it, but I really think you can make that argument. Mike Williams and Keenan Allen minus the injury concerns right now, or Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle, which would you rather have in fantasy? Give me Helen Waddle. Helen Waddle, no question. What about Chase and Higgins? Jamar Chase and T. Higgins? Still chasing Higgins for me, but like Simon said, it's getting closer. I mean, I wouldn't argue with somebody if they said Helen Waddle or above them, but me personally, I would still go with Jason. Jason Higgins. Dame out of question in here. Two greater than burrow. If this is NFL or fantasy, that might change the answer. Maybe not. Jay, I saw you shaking your head down there. Not yet. And I'm still, I've been, I like to a to a tutor as well as these guys, but I'm, I still think burrow has that ceiling that yes, I'm talking about ceiling with a guy who just threw $469 to six touchdowns. But I don't necessarily believe that that's going to be week in, week out what you see from this Miami Dolphins offense. I'm still going to put Joe Burrow ahead to it. I don't imagine he has to throw six touchdowns to win it. You know what I mean? Like he literally had to. That was how this game went. Discord 28 points in the fourth quarter. You're throwing a lot of those touchdowns. Those aren't coming on the ground when you have to make a comeback like that. So I think game script is probably a good segue here to the running back situation where he's over. He most certainly lead this rushing, lead this team in rushing 11 carries 51 yards. No rushing touchdowns on this team. No rushing touchdowns. Chase Edmunds had five carries for 33 yards. What do you guys think about this Miami Dolphins back? Is this a game script situation or is this more long term? I think maybe what you're going to see here is something we see on some other teams, which is a little bit of like a hot hand approach. You know what I mean? Not necessarily one guy who's going to be the lead back. I do think Edmunds ends the season with the most carries on this team, but if they're getting another guy going, I think they're going to roll with that guy for a little bit. So this isn't an absurd line. Obviously they ran less than they would in other games just because of the game script here, but I'm not, depends what your expectations are for Chase Edmunds. If you bought into him hoping like this is my sleeper who's going to be a top 12 guy, then yeah, you're probably going to be disappointed. But if you're cool with like some like back end RB two numbers week in week out, like with a couple of disappointing weeks, I think you're fine. Chase Edmunds and this offense can support that. Yeah, that's totally fair. All right, moving on to the Baltimore side of this game with Mark Jackson through for 21 conflations on 29 attempts, much or far fewer than Tua for 38, 318 yards and three touchdowns, three touchdowns. He also had a rushing touchdown nine carries for 119 yards. Rashad Bateman was featured in this game. We had four receptions for 108 yards and one touchdown on seven targets. Mark Andrews finally got his big day nine receptions for 104 yards in a touchdown. Anything out of or anything? Are you guys pulling any insight out of this on the on the Raven side of this? Anything that's surprising here to you? If you had any hope for, I said last week for, um, for Mike Davis now saying it for Kenyon Drake, if you had any hope for Kenyon Drake producing, you can drop them. There, there's nobody outside of JK Dobbins that you're going to want in this backfield because it's, it's Lamar Jackson's backfield. Justice Hill honestly looked better than Kenyon Drake. 1.3 yards for Gary to 5.3. There was some hype around Drake when he signed with not knowing the status of Dobbins and Dobbins, I do believe is going to be eased into this offense. I don't think he's just going to be, you know, given the keys to this backfield when he comes back, they're going to be smart. I think that's why they, I think he could have played this week, but the Ravens are one of the smartest organizations in the entire NFL. I think they're going to ease them in and I want no part of this backfield until JK Dobbins comes back. What about you, Simon? If JK Dobbins is still out, I'm fine starting Kenyon Drake in a, in a flex spot if you've got to know what I mean. If you've got some bad injuries, if you've got a couple of running backs out, I do think in normal weeks, he's going to be the running back with the most carries. And if the Ravens can run that clock out, then, um, they might use some Kenyon Drake. So he's, he's a low upside play in this offense, but he's, he's playable. I'm just waiting for JK Dobbins to get back low upside, low floor, just what you want, right Simon? Exactly. But he's playable. Like he, I do think he's most weeks going to be the running back with the most carries in this Ravens offense. And there's value in that, right? Maybe not a ton of value, but if you need a guy, you can start. He's one that you can plug in. Like he's plug in a bull. So do you guys have any concern for any more, are you, are you any more confident for shot Bateman, uh, after this week? And a lot of people were concerned this past week that he didn't get enough targets. Obviously this gave me at seven targets, four receptions, 108 yards in the touchdown. How do you guys, uh, are you any more confident for shot Bateman going forward? I wouldn't say more confident because I was pretty high in him coming into the season. The one thing I will say is he's, I think he's going to be a little more boom bust than people are anticipating. Um, you know, that's not to say that he's not somebody you want in your lineup, but you know that touchdown, it was what a 75 yard touchdown that man, he looked good. He completely, he just outran the guy, Miami defensive backs. Like he just, he looks phenomenal, but there are going to be some lean days, um, especially when it's those games that Baltimore is going to have to grind out on the ground. I love Rashad Bateman, but just be aware there are going to be some, uh, some bus days to go along with this boom. Give me, give me, give me, give me, give me all the Rashad Bateman, if you're worried about those bust games. Um, because I hate to say it, but it seems like maybe we're starting to see a little bit of a repeat of last season with this Ravens defense, right? Players are getting injured and it is not the defensive unit that we were expecting. Um, it could be more and more of these shootout style games like close games where the Ravens defense isn't performing up to the expectation that they've set not last season, but prior to that, right? And so maybe we, we get a similar offense to the Ravens from last year and Rashad Bateman can be a little bit more consistent. Um, so I'm in on Rashad Bateman. I'm fully comfortable. He's, unless your team is loaded, uh, he's like an every week start. Like, like, unless you're looking at you started your draft, like Jamar Chase, Devonte Adams, Jalen Waddle, okay, then maybe Rashad Bateman sitting on your bench, right? But unless that's the case, he's in your lineup weekend week out. And if he did start the draft that way, let me know if there's any openings because I would love to join your league. Absolutely. Oh, flex. We got some people in the chat here hanging out with us. Albert in here, just a celebratory almond. Say it louder. Hey guys, everything is fine. Everything is fine. Everything is fine. Everything's fine. You're fine. We're fine. We're all fine. We got Damon here. What's up, Dave? Welcome. And Mr. Scambers, I'm assuming talking about Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle saying top 10 wide receiver for both. I stand by it. Well, stand by it. They're off to a good start hitting that. Um, after this week in full PBR, I think they're the top two scoring wide receivers right now. If I'm not mistaken, I think almond Rob passes in half PPR over Jalen Waddle. Uh, but those two guys, yeah, I'm full PPR are the number one and number two scoring wide receivers on the week. I'm the same freaking team. Unreal. Slick Vic. Welcome in. Mom. Slick. What up, Slick Vic. Welcome in. And we got Albert in here. Is your mom, Jay? That's my mom. Yes. Hi mom. Albert, we talked a little bit about if we're worried about admins. We, we hit on that a little bit. And Craig in here, what's up, Craig? Is it in the word of Thanos or Jalen? This day. Stay extracts a heavy toll. That was the worst Thanos impression for me I've ever done. Thank you for speaking over me, Jalen, so that it was covered a little bit. I got you bro. That was just, that was just humiliating. Any time Jalen hears that I'm about to do a little impression, he just talks over it. Yeah. Just step in in case, you know, you accidentally embarrass yourself. You know what we should do instead of animal noise bets, we should do celebrity impression bets where we do Bruce Willis right now. Absolutely not. I haven't lost the bet. Going on, you know, just being different for the sake of it did not work out for me this week. So I've got an animal noise bet that I have to pay up before you did. Everybody took the buck. So I just said, you know what? I'll go with the cowboys even though I didn't believe it. So you saved me, Jay, because I was going to do the same thing just for the off chance that I got to watch everybody else make an animal noise. Right. So what animal noise are we going to make them make? You know, yeah, let's pause right here and let's make Jay, we'll take some suggestions in the chat for the animal noise you want Jay to make and we'll see what you're like best. We'll ponder on that. Albert had a question for us. Christian Kirk or Rashad Bateman rest of season. So Christian Kirk showed up today. He had himself a two touchdown game. Jay, are you going Christian Kirk or Rashad Bateman? Yes, please. I'll take either one of them. I honestly, I can't decide between the two. If I had to, I would probably go Kirk just because the volume that he's seeing, you know, yes, Rashad Bateman's having some big games, but he's not the most targeted receiver on his team. Don't need what I'm not saying. I love Rashad Bateman. He's somebody I want on my lineups, but Kirk is that guy. And yes, he broke the wide receiver market by getting, is he getting overpaid? I mean, the way that they're using him, I don't know, it's really good, really, really good today, probably his best game as an NFL pro. So I would lean ever so slightly to Kirk. Christian Kirk has got to be playing like with so much pressure on him because I feel like every time he makes a big cast, the analysis are like, that's what they're paying him for. That's what $20 million buys you. Like, like every time he does something on the field, they like mention his contract, mention how he's overpaid. But he's, you know, out targeted Christian Kirk today. Rashad Bateman. Evan Ingram. Ah, interesting. Just like the classic shout out. I have an Ingram out targeted Christian Kirk. Mark Andrews out targeted Rashad Bateman. It's the same thing, right? Absolutely the same thing. I'm going, I'm going Rashad Bateman here. I think they're similar players in like a fantasy value standpoint. I got more trust in this Raven's offense though. So I'll take the wide receiver when they're in a similar tier on the offense that I trust to be scoring more points. Jail, what about you? Yeah, I'm going to go Bateman as well. Double Bateman. I do like, I do like Kirk this season. I think he showed today what we were talking about a lot this off season. And I hope to see more of it. Come here now and hear what the question said. Pits London Bateman car for Javante Williams. Is that a fair trade FYF? What do you think Jail, would you be setting all those pieces? Pits London or Bateman and car for Javante Williams? No, no, that's far too much to give up for Javante Williams. Javante Williams has looked fantastic. Do not get me wrong, especially in the receiving game. He's looked very good. Also, let me just add this before you finish saying it. They have Saquon and Taylor at RB. You're good. You're good. I know you're panicking a little bit, but you're good. It was a rough week for those running backs. Not what we expected, but don't panic. Don't trade off your other assets. You are going to beat your league mates at the running back position nine out of 10 weeks for the rest of this season with Saquon and Taylor. Jay, what do you think here? Yeah. The one thing I will say and answer it in the chat, if it's a one QB league, I may consider it because then it's basically you're looking at London in pits for Javante. Now, showing that you've got Saquon and Jonathan Taylor, you don't need to make this move, but it's a little closer if it's a one QB league. Yeah. We had some suggestions in the chat. Come here now, say in some monkey noises. DIR logistics wants you to make ferrant noises. Andrew said he would love to hear Jay make a jellyfish noise. And then Mr. Scamper suggested a remorseful elephant. Oh, I like the adjective. Adjective. Adjective. Unless you're unless this elephant is a verb, like I'm going to elephant the hell out of you. Freaking elephants. You're so hard tonight, bro. Dude, I elephants. It's so hard last night. I am exhausted. I'm just elephanted out of nowhere. Hit that trunk. Are we going with, let's go with jellyfish on that. Jay, we're going to make you full screen for this and we need you to give us your best jellyfish noises. Punishment for picking the cowboys over the bucks last week. Jellyfish jellyfish. That is the most accurate jellyfish I've ever heard in my life. There you go. Jellyfish. I'm just going to just leave you up there to see if you would do it again. Oh, I mean, that tickles going upward. I don't know because I'm swimming down. We are going to move on to our next game. Our next game that we're talking about is the Commanders at the Lions game. The Washington Commanders going up against the Detroit Lions football. Washington has not started 2-0 since 2011 and they made a nice comeback in the second half of this game, but they were not able to pull it off. They were down 22 to nothing going in the second half. Detroit, everybody's darling team after Dan Campbell became everybody's favorite coach in the NFL with hard knocks. They were trying to avoid 0-2 because roughly 12% of teams who start 0-2 wind up going to the playoffs. So it pretty much close to a death knell starting 0-2. The offense, like I said, the Commanders often struggled in the first half. No first downs in the first quarter. They were shut out, but they did come back in the second half and made it a game. Antonio Gibson, a lot of people were higher on him last week because he was able to get that pass-catching work. He did not get that this week. JD McKissick was able to take that rollback, seven targets, seven catches, 54 yards. So Gibson had a pretty disappointing day. Wenz, it was ugly at first, but he had another big day. Three touchdowns, 337 passing yards, threw in a two-point conversion, and all the receiving options had a good day as well. Curtis Samuel with 21 rushing yards, seven catches on nine targets, 78 yards in a touchdown. Johan Dotson, four catches on five targets, 59 yards in a touchdown, and Terry McLauren, four, eight for 75 yards. Simon, we'll start with you here. Which Washington pass-catch do you like the most for fantasy for the rest of the season? Is Curtis Samuel taking over Terry McLauren as the wide receiver one on the steam? No, it's Terry McLauren. It's Terry McLauren. The way he's being targeted in this offense, those are high-value targets. Curtis Samuel, they're going to design a couple of plays to get him open in the end zone every single week. One of those worked this week. You know what? He's going to get heavily targeted on these lower yardage throws as well, so when a PPR leak, he's definitely worth being rostered, but Terry McLauren is still the wide receiver one in this offense. I'm still in on Terry. Now, the player that I'm a little bit more concerned for stepping into that role maybe or stepping up into and taking over as the wide receiver one is not Curtis Samuel. I think Curtis Samuel's role is pretty defined in this offense. It's Johan Dotson. It's the rookie coming in, making plays three touchdowns through the first two weeks. He looks great and they're just getting them ramped up. I could see him building out a larger role in this offense as the season progresses, but if I got to pick one, I'm taking Terry McLauren. Jail, anything add? Yeah. Nope, nothing to add. I completely agree with Simon. Well, that's odd. I will say I do like the usage that Logan Thomas had. Two games. He's had six targets, three catches this week. He had five targets with three catches and he had a touchdown, so if you're desperate for tight end, he's somebody that I wouldn't mind throwing at the end of your bench. You know that Carson Wentz does love to use the tight end, so he's somebody just keep an eye on, especially in those deeper leagues. And who was it that mentioned Amon Ross St. Brown earlier? Albert. My goodness, Amon Ross St. Brown. Another big day for him. He had nine receptions, 116 receiving yards, two touchdowns, 12 targets, all the talk, all off season was that once the Andre Swift came back, once TJ Hockinson came back, that Amon Ross St. Brown was just going to fade into the existence. Amon Ross St. Brown also had two carries for it was 68 yards, I believe. Am I reading that correctly? I can't. Yeah. Yeah, he carried it off twice at 60 yards. My notes got messed up there a little bit. Sorry about that. J.L., is Amon Ross St. Brown a must start wide receiver every week for here on out? Yeah. I mean, I'm starting him every week here on out. 12 double, two weeks now with 12 targets. If he gets three in a row, then he gets 20 coins. That's a turkey. He's on fire. It's a little known fact, yeah. 20 coins. 20 coins, yeah. Wow, that's incredible. Yes, like Chuck E. Cheese coins or? Mario Party rules. No. Yeah. Simon, what a chief is he every week started for you? Yeah. Yeah, plug him in. And I will say I was definitely a little bit lower on him than I guess I should have been this off season. He's the dude and he showed enough for the Detroit Lions offense last season that they said, you know, he deserves double-digit targets week in, week out. Now, if he maintains this pace of like 12 targets a week, that's going to be 33.8 percent It's going to be absurd. I'm not expecting that. He could do 33. He could, he could totally command 33 percent of this offense. That is not beyond him. They played the commanders command. Nice, nice. Good one, Jay. That was really, that was really worth stopping the conversation for. Yeah, great one. Maria commented on whatever the announcer who was announcing this game made a similar joke. It was terrible. It's terrible. They're going to say it every single week, no matter what. Every week. Deandre Swift came into this game with some injury concerns and granted he only had five carries, but he made the most of them at over 50 yards on the ground. He also had two catches for 31 yards and a reception touchdown. Jared Goff threw for four touchdowns. He's been a nice super flex by week type of quarterback that, you know, somebody you don't mind having is your QB three and in the right match up to be able to start him in a super flex league. 26 fantasy points this week. Yeah, I mean, he's not done too shabby. Jamal Williams, again, has a solid yet unspectacular day. 12 rushes, 53 yards. He's somebody that more of a flex play. You would have liked to see a little more out of him with Deandre Swift banged up, but as we talked about, Deandre Swift looked pretty good. If DJ Shark dropped a touchdown pass, it was heartbreaking. And now I'm just looking at his box score. Zero exceptions for four targets. I saw a question in the chat. I forget where it came from. ODI logistics and thoughts on Charg. Zero catches but four targets. Second most in wide receivers. Just curious. So hitting on that point, you brought up JL. Yeah, I mean, it's not good. It's not good. Not great, Bob. Not great, Bob. I think he stays in that conversation of like flexible players, like flex worthy players by week feel like DJ Shark is a guy you can start. Very flexible. He's so flexible you can flex him. You can flex him most weeks. But yeah, I'm fine with DJ Shark still. There's no like massive excitement. You're throwing in your flex, hoping he catches a touchdown. Yeah. That's pretty much it for this one for me. Okay, I was waiting to be at anything else over there. And that's all I have to say about that. Coop and here's it. Help me, Jaymo Williams. Mine. Help me, Jaymo. Let's hear Jaymo. He heard us talking about having Ingram and had to jump in here. And then he said, you're my only hope. No, I know Coop has been slandering Amin Ross St. Brown and he's just waiting for Jaymo Williams to come back, hoping that it saves his taste. I almost feel guilty because I've got Amin Ross St. Brown on my home league and I too. He was cheap enough to keep, so I kept him, but I was not in on Amin Ross St. Brown at all. But I'm reaping the rewards anyways. I saw Jimbo Fisher in here. Wow, well, welcome in Jimbo Fisher. Not a fan. I'm going to be honest. No, I am not. Really not a big fan of Jimbo Fisher, but we'll answer your questions anyways. A Lazard, Mooney or Sanders? I need a breakout to get the W. So they're shooting for upside here is what it sounds like down big. Need to start one of these three players. Jail, where are you going? Oh man, Lazard, Mooney or Sanders? I think I'm going to go Mooney. Mooney, shoot for the Mooney. Jay, are you shooting for the Mooney? Are you going Lazard or Sanders? I'm going with the Lizard King. I think that if you're looking for that, Mooney is a safer play, but I think if you're looking for that big game, you're the same play. Yeah, I am. And I think Lazard, I could see a situation where Aaron Rodgers comes out slinging it after the way they looked last week and just fourth-feeding Lazard because nobody else stepped up for the wide receivers in Green Bay last week. So I think. What an image. Aaron Rodgers fourth-feeding Lazard. Eat it. I imagine he starts kindly with the airplane, but then gets really forceful really quickly, like has very little patience, whatever he does. Like he's like, here comes the airplane. Here comes the airplane! Like just. Lazard doesn't realize it's going to get that aggressive at first. He's like, oh, I'm good. Thanks. Thank you. Ends up just all over his face. There's pumpkin. Covered in mashed peas. Yeah, if you see pumpkin puree, like little orange stains on Alan Lazard's jersey, you know it's because Aaron Rodgers was fourth-feeding him right before the game. Little orange and green. Let's try it. Mama bird me, Aaron. We are far good. I'm going to go with Mooney here as well. And Jay actually disagreed a little bit. I think Lazard's the safe play here, even though he's coming off that injury. What did we see from any of the Green Bay wide receivers last week that makes us think Lazard isn't going to step in and immediately be the top targeted wide receiver in this offense? There was nothing inspiring from a single Green Bay wide receiver last week that made me say, you know what? Maybe Lazard isn't the one. He's the one. Like he's going to be the most targeted wide receiver if he's healthy and he's out there. Mooney, I think though, there's still a lot of uncertainty. We saw the ball kind of get spread around to different receiving options in the rain last week. If we see him hyper-targeted like we did last year, and if the Bears get down big in this game, which is a very big possibility, and Justin Fields just has to start chucking it, Mooney's the money he played for me. Mooney's the one that you plug in your lineup if you want to just shoot for the moon. That's where I'm going. You just wanted to say that terrible joke one more time. I didn't even mean to say the joke there. It's just the phrase that applies in this situation, and I accidentally said it again. Albert in here saying Schultz left the game with a knee injury. We'll have to keep our eye on that. Do any of you guys know any update on Dalton Schultz knee injury? Not that I've seen, no. Sorry, Albert. Also, Mr. Scabri's braiding your jellyfish noise at A for effort, D for the jellyfish noise, A minus for the baby turkey noise. That was more of a turkey. I do have a good, I do have a pretty good turkey noise. Yeah. Yeah, Jay's got a pretty good turkey noise. I can attest to that one. Two, three, four, and he said, Jerry, Judy, injury is serious one. I know we saw him leave the game with an ankle. I believe he's been ruled out for the remainder of the contest, but I don't think we have any further confirmation or any further information after that. The Mr. Scampers may be a little tongue in cheek, but saying if you have CD, you should have treated him for Amon Ross St. Brown. Jay, you've got CD lamb on your roster. Okay. You're sitting there. It's late at night. It's 11 p.m. You're laying in bed, games winding down. The packets are up by 30, so you're just scrolling at this point, right? A little notification pops up. You look down at your phone and it says your league mate, ass ETN season has proposed a trade to you of Amon Ross St. Brown for CD lamb. Are you accepting that trader? Are you keeping CD on your roster after what we've seen through two weeks? I can't do it. I know the right decision is to accept the trade, but I just believe in CD lamb's talent too much. And as good as Amon Ross St. Brown has looked, I think CD lamb's the type of talent that can still perform with a guy like Cooper Rush under quarterback, under center, under quarterback, under quarterback, under center, either one. Dak Prescott is going to be back before the season's over. Some people say four weeks, some people say eight weeks, but he should be back at least in time for your fantasy playoffs. The only way I may consider this, if you're looking to start 0 and 2 and your production, you need production right now from somebody, then maybe, but I would most likely stick with CD. You sound very conflicted there though. Jail, what about you? Are you conflicted on this one? I am not conflicted. CD lamb is going to have Dak back at some point during the season. I'm not making this trade based off of the next couple of weeks, unless I'm absolutely desperate. Does getting Dak back put him back on track? That's whack. You said, did you mean to make that? What did you mean to say that? Now, 100%. I always say, you're going, what else rhymes with Dak and Dak? And I was like, oh, track, we got this. So Jail, I actually heard a zero of what you answered. Just stop. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. Just 100. That's all right. I respect that a lot of that. No, I'm keeping CD lamb. He'll get back on track with Dak back, for sure. And Mr. Scamers says, I was not cheating, but I'm a lamb downer. I don't think this is absurd. Know what I mean? We talk about not overreacting, but this is two weeks in a row now. CD didn't look great, even with Dak in there. Now we have to imagine that Dak would be better than what we saw in that limited sample size week one. But it looks a little bit rough for him so far. I'm probably keeping CD, but I don't think it's preposterous to make a move like that. It's a conversation to have now. We're going to move on to our next game. And we are talking Buccaneers versus Saints in this one. And I don't know how much of this game you guys watched, but it was ugly. Oh, yeah. Just not to watch. Like we talked about it on the on the pre-gaming show this morning. And it was one of those games where it felt like it was just going to be this gross defensive battle. Like it just seemed like it. And my favorite part about this game is all of the narratives. Think of every narrative that you could about this game. It happened. No stats, no numbers. We're talking straight narrative street baby. Tom Brady can't play well against the Saints. Well, you know what we got? We got a piss poor Tom Brady game. 18 for 34, 190 yards and one touchdown. They had zero points for a like for the entire first half of this game if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, they ended the first half without a single point scored. Tom Brady was wildly frustrated. Another storyline. Mike Evans and sorry, right there. Mike Evans and Latimore are going to get chippy with each other, right? Like that is a common storyline. Another narrative. Shout out with the Brad Marchand comp because that's right. And it, he man, it worked out perfect. He was chirping at Brady and then Mike Evans came in and just bam, just took them out and kind of kicked out of the game. I mean, that that is the perfect comp. You have to know hockey to get that but that was absolutely perfect. This game just went, this game just went totally narrative street with some of those things, right? We got old school. James Winston back as well, but the Buccaneers ended up did come, did end up coming out on top by a final score of 20 to 10 here. I think the big story with the Bucs is all of their wide receiver options, right? We didn't see very many of them on the field this week. Chris Godwin out, Julio Jones out, Mike Evans kicked out. Out, Scottie Miller out. In, Scottie Miller was in and Scottie Miller got the most targets on the team, eight targets, but only turned it into three receptions and 34 yards, not a great day for any of the wide receivers. Somebody you should see out of your lineups is Russell Gage. I know there was a lot of hype around him this off season, thinking that he could step in to what Antonio Brown was doing last year, but this was his opportunity. No Julio, no Godwin, and five catches for 20-something yards. I wasn't in on Russell Gage, and if you were, I think you have to be really disappointed with what he did today. Yeah, 100%. Now, Mike Evans, I know you're disappointed because he got kicked out, but he's still Mike Evans. You're going to keep him on your team. The one player that I did want to bring up for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers here was Rashad Perriman, who ended up catching the touchdown and had a shot at a couple more in this game. Do you think Rashad Perriman is a fill-in only with these wide receiver options out, or do you think he could earn a role in this offense that's worth rostering? Just a fill-in, Rashad Perriman. It's all he is. Just a fill-in, Rashad Perriman. Just a fill-in. It's all he is. Jay, anything to add to that? Just a fill-in, Rashad Perriman. That's all he is. Good job. That's all he is. Rashad Perriman, in, but just this week. Don't plug him into your fantasy. Yeah, no, out every other week. Now, the other thing I did want to bring up on the Buccaneers side, Leonard Fournette saw the bulk of the carries. He got 24 carries, which is an absurd amount, and he turned it into a whopping 65 yards with an average of 2.7 yards for Kerry, just absolutely atrocious. Now, do you think this had to do with all of their receiving options being injured so maybe they could pay more attention to Leonard Fournette, focus more on stopping the run, or do you have more long-term concerns for Leonard Fournette being the lead back in this Buccaneers offense? I mean, was that 24 carries? Yeah. 65 yards. That's hell of a statement. All the things I said. Yeah. Exactly what Simon just said. Yeah, it's a hell of a statement. Yeah, I'm not too worried about Leonard Fournette. He was still involved in the passing game, and this, like he said, this was just an ugly game, especially divisional games. They get a little wonky for a lack of better terms. That's the actual, you look it up in the dictionary, that's what they said to call this game. I'm not worried. He's getting the usage. He's the guy. There was talks about Rashad White coming in and stealing some work. Rashad White had two targets, two carries. Give me the guy who is getting all the work in a backfield in what should be an elite offense once they're all healthy. Yeah, not too much else on the Buccaneer side of this ball. There's really not too many takeaways because so many of their fantasy-relevant options were outright. This isn't the Tampa Bay offense that we're going to be seeing week in and week out. On the new Orleans side of the ball, we got some vintage James today. Didn't we chuck in the ball around? A couple of interceptions. He was 25 or 40, 236 yards, one touchdown and three interceptions and he had a couple ugly ones in that game today. This is what we expecters. This is what we expect from James Winston. You're going to get weeks like this and you're probably going to get some weeks with four or five touchdowns where he chucks a couple of them up there. They work, but you're going to continue to get weeks like this. The player that I think is most important to bring up is one, I've never been so happy someone didn't score a touchdown and I know it sounds mean. It does. Then Taysum Hill this week. If Taysum Hill and Devin Duvernay had both scored another touchdown this week, I think I would have just imploded, right? Because we know Taysum Hill can do it, but it came back down to Earth a little bit this week. Three carries for 14 yards, wasn't really involved anywhere else in this game. Jail, what's your confidence level with starting Taysum Hill at tight end or is he a boom bust player for you? He is absolutely a boom bust player for me. I forget what it was. What does he play? I think Koof said it in the morning show, but he played like four snaps. Took four snaps in week one. I don't know how many he took out, how many he took this week, but three attempts for 14 yards. That's why would you want to flex that guy? I would call that poop water. That's a poop water stat line. I would also call that poop water. I would not because I'm not saying that. So say it. Say it. We're not moving on until you say poop water. I guess I want to stay here for a while. Yeah, we're all going to sit here. Everyone in the chat, the people that fan to watch and this fan to old daddy is going to say, what were you guys doing? Why didn't you recap more games? So it's because Jay wouldn't say poop water. Just give us, I will not say poop water. There it is. Bingo. We got you, sucker. Outside of that, I saw a question in the chat from Albert. Why should we sell high on Michael Thomas? Michael Thomas had nine targets today, turned into six reception, 65 yards and a touchdown that he was hyped about when he scored it. He started screaming down there. I love you guys saw him, but it was a, I was happy to see him happy to catch that touchdown. Jay, are you selling high on Michael Thomas after this game? Or do you think he's someone you want in your lineups weekend week out? I am selling high. I'm a little more concerned than most. I know he's had two pretty solid games back to back, but last week, you know, he got the two touchdowns late. This game, he had the touchdown late and something that's really kind of going under the radar. I didn't realize this. Apparently, James Winston has four fractures in his back. So he's literally got a broken back. Eddie Dalton's the backup. We don't know one if James Winston's going to be able to make it through the entire season. And outside of that touchdown, Michael Thomas' stat line isn't that great. Six catches, 65 yards. Yeah, he's got nine targets, but Chris Olavi had more targets than he did. So it, I wouldn't say just get rid of him for anything, but if you can get a solid wide receiver to in return, I would make that move. Yeah. I think I agree with you, Jail. What about you? 23.6% target share in this offense. Like, can we confidently say that this isn't going to go down? I know that Chris Olavi had more than him this week, but he had way less than him last week. I don't know the trend necessarily. And by having more, I mean, Michael Thomas had nine. If my wide receiver, who I drafted as a wide receiver, three can get consistently eight to 10 targets per week. I'm happy with that, especially when they're high value targets, like we've seen from Michael Thomas, and that he's scoring with them. So I'm not as concerned. I think this, my answer to this would come with nuance. It's, Sal, if you can get someone who's willing to pay, you know, overpay for him, but otherwise, I'm holding on to Michael Thomas. Joe, let's dissect this nuance a little bit. So someone's a little disappointed in their... Let's explore this further. Someone's a very disappointed in their running back that they drafted in the third or fourth round this year, named Travis Etienne. Would you be willing to trade Michael Thomas for Travis Etienne right now? I would. I would for the way running backs and wide receiver... If I had the depth of wide receiver position, yes, I would. Otherwise, I would. So you're not... That provides all the new ones I need. You're not looking to trade Michael Thomas, but if you can maybe upgrade at another position, that's a little bit harder to fill, you will. Yeah. If someone's willing to trade their Travis Etienne for Michael Thomas, then you would trade Michael Thomas. Right. We're going to move on to our next... Oh yeah, just crazy draft value. We had a question in here from Albert before we move on to our next game set. I'm down by 43 points and I have Hertz, Dillon, and Jefferson. My opponent has just Montgomery. You think Albert's going to win? Joe, you think he's got it? I think he's got this. God, just Hertz and Jefferson. You're probably good. Then just throw Dillon on top for a little extra insult. Dillon and Montgomery should catch and tell her out. So, should be fine. I think you got it, Albert. I think you're going to win this game. I would bet my money on that right there. And then Andrew in here, talking back to Curtis Samuel, saying Curtis Samuel, in that Debo role, we've been looking for the next Debo Samuel. Did we find them, Jay? I think might. Maybe Debo Light, not Debo. There's only one Debo, but a couple of years ago, he played a Debo-type role in Carolina. So who was the coach then? One Mr. Ron Rivera. Albert Einstein. Oh, Ron Rivera. No, not next year this year. You know, when Albert Einstein comes back. I prefer diet Debo over Debo Light, but just tomato, tomato. No, we can talk about that. And Coop in here throwing respect for the hockey love. These uncultured swines don't know winter sports. That's just one winter sport, Coop. You have not asked about my cross-country skiing knowledge or my curling knowledge or my biathlon knowledge. It's zero as well, but at least- What's the next game that we have? At least do your due diligence before you insult us over here, Coop. The next game we're talking about- Due diligence. Your due due diligence. We are talking Colts Jaguars for this next game. The really, maybe I should just say we're talking Jaguars after the way the Colts look. Oh, who could have foreseen this one? Come in, boys. 24 to zero. To zip. To zero. That's zero. Is that good? You read that right? That's a donut. That's not good. Oh, I like donuts. As a donut to the Jacksonville Jaguars, they just kept- They just kept steaming ahead in this game. The defense looked absolutely spectacular. They just continually, continually harassed Matt Ryan. I believe they sacked him five times, intercepted three times, three times, and they kept Jonathan Taylor only- What was it? What's that stat line there, Simon? Oh, sorry. I was looking- I was confirming the five-snack, five-snacks. Five-snacks per game. Three interceptions. Say donut, everybody goes- Nine carries, 54 yards. No touchdowns. That's amazing. So the defense really did their job in this game. Trevor Lawrence was able to hit Christian Kirk for a touchdown early in the- I believe it was the first quarter. Let me pull this up here. Yeah, so he hit Christian Kirk for a 10-yard pass in the first quarter, and then James Robinson had a 37-yard run in the second quarter. And then we had a nice- Just a field goal, and then Christian Kirk had another five-yard touchdown pass to Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence looked a lot better. 25 per portions of 30 attempts, 235 yards, two touchdowns in this game. So let's start off with Trevor Lawrence. Guys, do you have any more confidence in Trevor Lawrence after this game? I know he has gone up and down on this roller coaster of generational talent, guaranteed to be great, really under-literating on those expectations. And then now we're here. Week two, 2022 seasons. What did you see from Trevor Lawrence? That he can do it. That he can lead a team in a game he's supposed to win. Once they got up, know what I mean? Not below a lead, be a smart game manager. He looked like an NFL quarterback out there this week for a complete game for, I don't know, maybe the first time since I've been watching him since he's been in the league. This just felt like a very... It wasn't like a blow your mind, this is a superstar game, right? But this was a complete, well-executed game from Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars. It does boost my confidence a little bit. Know what I mean? For him to come out here and just put together a solid game when they were the underdogs, I like it. I'm down for Trevor Lawrence continuing down this path. That being said, he's not going to have the same upside as some of these other quarterbacks in the Jacksonville offense, and they're not running them. Like he can run, but they're not really running Trevor Lawrence. So upside limited, but solid fantasy start probably going forward. What about you, Jay? How are you feeling about Trevor Lawrence? Now we're going into week two. I agree with everything Simon said. This was the first time, honestly, I feel like in his career that he's put together a complete game. More than anything, I think it really is good news for Christian Kirk. We didn't know what this offense was going to look like if Christian Kirk was going to be able to handle being the guy. That's two weeks in a row. He's put up fantastic fantasy games. Six catches, 78 yards, two touchdowns. Yes, he was out targeted by Coop's boy Evan Ingram, but I'm all in on Christian Kirk. I was not in on him this off season. I wish I had some more shares. Trevor Lawrence, it's Arrow Up. Arrow Up, is there Arrow Up for Christian Kirk for you, Simon? Oh, my arrow's up for Christian Kirk, Jay, after these two games. Six to midnight. We are full on midnight right now for Christian Kirk. Arrow Point all the way up. And how about Evan Ingram? I know we've talked a lot about Evan Ingram over the last few weeks, Simon. How are you feeling about Evan Ingram as a fantasy asset? Is he someone that you want to be starting week in, week out, or you can consider starting week in and week out? He hasn't fully separated himself from that glob yet, but he's in the process of doing so. You know what I mean? Like he's stretching. You're seeing, maybe I should explain, the tight end glob is everybody that's not named like Mark Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Travis Kelsey. Like they're all in this glob of guys that are relatively similar to start. And Evan Ingram lives down there right now, but he's pulling away and you're seeing that glob start to stretch. And if he gets another week with seven plus targets, if he continues to be a consistently heavily targeted player in this offense, then yeah, he's in every week start. So I'm probably plugging him in next week. I liked what I saw from him this week. And just play it by ear. Don't feel married to Evan Ingram. Know what I mean? Like if he starts dipping in usage, we start seeing him have multiple games, two, three targets, then he's a guy you can cut. But for now I'm continuing to plug him in my lineup week in, week out. Yeah, that's totally fair. Now to the portion of this breakdown that I am least happy to talk about. James Robinson and Travis Etn. James Robinson is 23 carries for 64 yards and a touchdown in this game. Travis Etn, nine carries, 20 yards by contrast. No touchdowns. So is, help me with this. Nine carry seems less than 23, right? Nine is certainly less than 23. Which just doesn't make sense. Like I just don't give a question. Who is the Jacksonville RB one? I don't make me say it. I think it's James Robinson. Like like 23 carries isn't like, you know, it wasn't like this was like 15 to nine. Know what I mean? It wasn't like this was like 11 to seven on carries. Like we see sometimes this was 23 carries to nine carries. God, I'm trying not to overreact. This was a weird game, right? With them skunking the colds going up and just having to maintain that lead. Like maybe James Robinson is the guy that's going to grind out clock for them. And that's why he got so many carries in this game. But for them to continue to trust him with that workload, it begs the question. Like at best, this is a 1A1B scenario. And at worst, James Robinson is the lead back and Travis Etn is the change of pace back. Yeah, I think Travis Etn. I think they're viewing Travis Etn. This is his rookie year, essentially. And I think they're going to work him into this offense more and more. I think he will be featured more in the receiving game. We've already seen him featured more in the receiving game, not by very much in this game. But I still think Travis Etn is a ton of upside, but we have to accept this reality that we're in, which is that Doug Peterson wants to be James Robinson the ball. And James Robinson is, he's making it work. He's making it work. Not super impressive today. 2.8 yards at a time, he's making it work. 2.8 yards at a time, he's making it work. Travis Etn didn't do much better. So maybe this is a Colts defense type of thing. They're just shutting down the run game, but it's hard to argue with that much usage being fed to James Robinson. And Coups saying, I still believe in Etn. I still do as well. Please do not take this as non-believing in Travis Etn. It's more so just accepting the reality of the situation as it exists right now, which is that Travis Etn's upside is not there. Or maybe the upside is there, but maybe the floor isn't quite there that we thought. In my opinion, I think it says more positive about James Robinson, that it does anything negative about Etn. And what I mean by that is this isn't the type of gamescript that Etn was going to get a ton of usage. But to see James Robinson get 23 carries, get two targets after coming back from that devastating injury from last year, if you had any concerns about him coming back and not being the same player he was, yes, it was 2.8 yards per carry, but he broke a 37 yard. I believe that was the touchdown. But games back to back, he's breaking tackles. He's going down the field. I'm more excited about what this says for James Robinson than necessarily down on Etn. I think it's going to be a 1A, 1B situation. Yeah, I agree with you. On the Indianapolis side of this, there's not much to talk about. I really think their offense was really battered by this Jacksonville defense. And Michael Pittman being out, they just didn't quite have the normal usage. Jonathan Taylor being shut down. Is there anything you guys want to add to this Indianapolis side of this fall that you're pulling from this week? Or is this more something you could just write off? Just gross from Indianapolis. And maybe if you were looking at, this is like a sneaky playoff team this year with the addition of Matt Ryan, maybe not. Oh, one and one. I never understood the Matt Ryan love at this point in his career. He's fine, but I think they did even better off keeping cards in the ones, to be honest with you. That's because you're a hater, Jay. That's why you don't understand the Matt Ryan. You're a wence lover. You wence lover. Love them redheads. I saw your notes about wence. I know you love him a lot. I saw the pictures you drew about wence. Yeah, I saw your notes about wence. They're all demeaning and hateful. All of my notes about wence. So don't share this with them. That's why I ripped them up and don't send them to them. Exactly. I write them, then I burn them, or I shred them in my new shredder is where I put my notes about wence. Is there anything else on this cold side of the ball you want to hit? That's it. And that's all I got to say about that. And that's all I got to say about that. We're going to hit the New England Patriots Pittsburgh Steelers game next. New England coming out on top 17-14 in this game. Yeah, this was talked about a lot of ugly football. This was an ugly football game. It was not a fun one to watch. Mack Jones just got over 250 yards. He did throw a really nice play by Nelson Aguilar who had a pretty good game. Six catches on six targets, 110 yards, and a touchdown. One guy that I was excited for, and I feel like a little higher than most, but just because where he went and drafts. Damian Harris, now he didn't have necessarily an amazing game. But what I did like to see is one, he had 15 carries. Obviously he had a touchdown as well. But he was getting some work in the passing game as well. Granted, it's only two targets for two catches and 16 yards. But Ramondri Stevenson only had two targets, and he had one catch. So a lot of people were expecting Ramondri Stevenson to get all the work in the passing game. Damian Harris, I don't think he's a super high upside play, but I think he's a, wait for it, rock solid RB2, especially if he's going to chip in. Some passing game work. You're hoping he gets a touchdown. This is pretty much like the quintessential Damian Harris game. And if he's able to add in a couple catches, he's somebody that I'm really excited to have as my RB2 or flex play. Jail, what do you think about Damian Harris versus Ramondri Stevenson for the rest of the season? Do we get news on his injury? Who? On Damian Harris. He went down in this game. I'll check for you, Jail. Oh, I did not see that. Yeah. Because that would be the big thing I was worried about. And I saw him go down with the injury, but I didn't see anything after that. Jail, this is directly from Damian Harris on his health after hobbling off late. He said, I'm fine dog. Look at me. I'm fine. Look at me, dog. So it seems like he says I'm fine. At that dog. So important to Damian Harris, he's good. He said, look at me. I'm fine. Okay. So in that case, yeah, I'm, I'm, I think this game played out exactly how we saw it play out last week. Exactly how we saw it play out all of last season. It's, it's Damian Harris is going to get like 65% of the workload. Mondra Stevenson is going to get most of the rest and Mack Jones will be mixed in there. Yeah. I think, you know, the designed runs for Mack Jones are the real threats of Damian Harris here, right? Yeah. I agree with you. Just maybe some, he's not your upside running back play, but he's the guy that you can plug in who's going to get work. And if he gets a touchdown, you're happy. Right. Yeah. And that's the thing, you know, everybody was talking about touchdown regression with Damian Harris, but similar to what we've, I've said a couple of times about Adam Thielen, about James Conner, these guys have the bad amount of touchdowns because they play a specific role in their offense. And it looks like at the start of the season, that Damian Harris does still have that role. I'm not necessarily saying he's going to get the same amount of touchdowns that he did last year, but I do expect them to have a good chunk this season on. Go ahead. As I say, did you guys see that, that Gunnar Olzelski, I don't know how to say his last name, get that Gunnar video I posted earlier on Twitter? I did not see that. He just mucked him up in the punt. Yeah. I did not see that. Nice baseball. On to the Pittsburgh Steelers side of the ball. Milky Trebilky had a Milky Trebilky game, 168 yards, one touchdown, one interception, did not look that impressive. Honestly, I think that we're going to start getting closer and closer to Kenny Pickett season, little baby hands, but he's got to be better than Milky Trebilky. Did not look good. Deontay Johnson did have 10 targets, six catches, 57 yards. The only touchdown caught was from one Mr. Pat Frymuth. He's another one that, yeah, you love to see the seven targets, but I think you have to be a little concerned to feed until something changes with this offense. If he doesn't get a touchdown, you know, you're really not getting a whole lot of Pat Frymuth. I don't know. 10 targets last week, seven targets this week. Like, what the hell else do you want from your tight end? You know what I mean? Like, if you waited that long on tight end, but like, yeah, it's a disappointing week, but whenever I'm looking for who to plug in next week, like if he's going to get that ball, if he can hit double digit targets, then I'm starting them. He's a startable guy. He's at the top of the glob, I'd say. I think he's getting targeted more than most of the people in the glob, so he's in that conversation to escape from it as well, I think. Absolutely. And Najee Harris, you know, there's been some injury concerns with him, but even though it wasn't a very productive game on the ground for him with 15 carries, 49 yards, you got to love the six targets. Five catches, 40 yards. Yeah, that's right. He's no taste. No, not many people are tasting. No, I like to know what. Najee Harris is no taste of Hill, the disrespect. He was talking about Pat Friartuck. Oh, Friartuck. Yeah, Pat Friartuck. Najee Harris, I think while he's getting this volume, I think he's just fine, but I was pretty high on him. I could see a potential top five season from him, but after two games, I'm a little concerned. Simon, what do you think? Are you still in on Najee Harris for this season? Yeah, like, I mean, what else do you want me to say? He was a little banged up this week. It was a weird game and he's getting the work. Like, yeah, he's a great running back and he's going to get the touches. Maybe this offense isn't as good as we thought. Maybe the O-lines rough, but when he's healthy and he's out there, you play Najee Harris. Maybe it just, I would assume so at some point, but we'll have to see. Watch that foot, but it's not Harris. What am I going to do? I'm not doing it unless I have great options. Like, but you drafted him in the first round, you're probably dependent on him to start, and I think you keep playing him. All right, next week you have one roster spot. James Robinson or Najee Harris? Najee Harris. Najee Harris. Don't get cute. Yeah, I am cute. Get out of here, Jay. Yeah, get out of here, Jay. You with your haircut and your blue shirt trying to be all cute over here. Actually getting a haircut this week, it's way too long. So, and that's all I have to say about that. That's all you have to say about that. You said dumb. Well, I got a lot to say about the next game that we're going to be talking about here, the Jets Browns game and the Browns. The Browns looked like they had this one in the bag, but turns out they didn't. The New York Jets ended up winning this one, 31 to 30. And I just want to, I want to give some props to that Jets organization because they've got some balls. Like, whoever's coming over there. Some big old big ones. Big old Jets balls. They got some big old New York green jet balls. The very first thing, like the first piece of evidence to support my claim of the Jets having large balls. Okay. I'm going to break down this argument. It's massive, massive. Take let Joe Flacco throw the ball 44 times after letting them chuck the ball over 50 times last week. It is the year 2022. And they have Joe Flacco under center chucking the ball 44 times in a game. But you know what? It's working. Joe Flacco put up 307 yards and four touchdowns with those 44 pass attempts. Absurd. But we're going to keep building this argument, right? First quarter of this game, very first quarter, the Jets execute a fake punt on fourth down when they're down seven zero at the very beginning of this game. Balls. And then in the fourth quarter, onside pick recovered. Balls. Balls. Like these Jets are just a ball team out there. And I am absolutely loving it. Dale, my first question was, they got some hogs over there. My first question for you, Jail. Okay. Are we looking back at elite Joe Flacco? Like is Joe Flacco someone? Joe Flacco is an elite, elite boys, elite. No, it's through 26 of the, you know, through 26 completions on 44 attempts. He's just, he's just pretty all right. Pretty all right. So you're not, you're not buying into Joe Flacco. Alita must start every single week. J, are you viewing Joe Flacco as a quarterback in fantasy? Like, are you excited to start him? No, and I'm still not starting him, even though he's getting the volume. I don't expect it to hold up. I don't think, you know, even though they won this game, they're, they're going to go back to Zach Wilson once he comes back. I will say, while Joe Flacco was in there, I am more excited for the wide receivers for the Jets because we don't know if Zach Wilson is able to air it out. We do know that Joe Flacco, he'll, he'll throw it. He'll chuck it up there. He doesn't care. Garrett Wilson had a great game. So I'm not starting Joe Flacco. I mean, outside of not having anybody else, but Joe Flacco is going to come back down to earth. Speaking of Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson did have one hell of a game yesterday. He put up, he had 14 targets for eight receptions, put up 102 yards with two touchdowns mixed in there. Is this the passing of the Torch J? Are we seeing Garrett Wilson become the wide receiver one in this offense, not Elijah Moore, who we thought it was going to be all off season? No, I still believe in Elijah Moore. I think it's just going to be one of those situations. You know, maybe a poor man's T-Hagging Chimarchase, you know, any of these one, two combos that in today's NFL, they're passing more than ever. I think both guys are going to be reliable. For fantasy in the long run, just one of those days, it was Garrett Wilson's day. And, you know, after the first touchdown, he actually, he was a little banged up. He went to the sideline from a pretty hard tackle. I came back in and got that second one, the game-winning touchdown. I got to say, I'm impressed with Garrett Wilson. I didn't think that he would come in and produce this early, but I'm still a believer in Elijah Moore. And I think Corey Davis might have had, did Corey Davis have the game-winning one, actually, I believe? Corey Davis did. I can't remember who called that game one. I just remember being like, no way did the Jets just score to end this game right there. It was a little bit of an unbelievable ending right there. It just didn't seem like the Jets were going to win this entire time. Like the whole game, it just seemed like the Browns were going to pull ahead. Jail, do you think Garrett Wilson, let's talk when Zach Wilson comes back. We're not talking Joe Flacco anymore. What's your excitement level for Garrett Wilson in this offense? I'm very excited, very excited. 14 targets. That is so dope for a rookie wide receiver in week two. That's fantastic. I love to see that. Yeah, absolutely. Breeze Hall, Michael Carter continued to split work this week. Breeze Hall and Michael Carter getting exactly the same number of carries. And Breeze not nearly involved in the receiving, not nearly as involved in the receiving game this week as he was last week, but he did get that receiving touched on in the air. Keep playing them. Keep holding on. I imagine this will continue to shift Breeze's way as the season goes on, considering they're splitting evenly and he's a rookie right now, right? So I think that's how that's going to play out. On the other side of the ball, Nick Chubb continuing to do Nick Chubb things. He's one of the best pure runners in the NFL. 17 carries, 87 yards, averaging over five a carry with three touchdowns on the ground. Jail, the question for you is, what is Nick Chubb's ceiling with Kareem Hunt still getting carries in this game? He got 13 carries in Nick Chubb, 17. And with Nick Chubb's lack of receiving work, where does his ceiling live? His ceiling is somewhat limited because of the lack of receiving work. I mean, naturally that's just going to happen. He did, he got three targets in this game, like you said, 26 yards. That isn't, that isn't very inspiring, but the reason Nick Chubb is drafted so high despite not having that receiving work is the rushing work, 17 attempts, 87 yards, three TDs, holy cow. That's, that's fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And Jay, I wanted to ask you about a different Browns player, another player, the guys that were supposed to perform for the Browns performed this week, right? And we saw Mari Cooper out there, 10 targets, nine reception, 101 yards and a touchdown. It looked like he was, Jacoby Versetz preferred option out there on the field and he was wide open consistently. Is a Mari Cooper a receiver that you can trust weekly with the Browns offense being a rush first offense? Trust, no, but I definitely feel a little better than I did after the game last week. Mari Cooper, Simon, you and I both are two Mari Cooper truthers, I guess you want to say. Mari Cooper is one of the best route runners in the entire NFL. He's performed on some pretty bad offenses before. He's not somebody I'm trusting. I don't have many shares of him whatsoever, but I do think that he is gone from flex status to more of a wide receiver three, maybe a back end wide receiver two. If you're in a tight spot, I think that he's somebody you can feel a little better about throwing in your lineups. Absolutely. That's all I got for this game. Browns not off to the hottest start this season and the Jets making a little magic. We'll see if they can continue that AFC North domination next week if they can take down the Bengals in their matchup next week. The next game I wanted to hit on here, we've got the Panthers at the Giants and MetLife Stadium. The Giants coming home with a victory 19 to 16 in that one. Yeah, the New York football Giants start two and 0 for the first time since 2016. And that was the last time they made the playoffs with the infamous boat pictures. So hopefully there's no more boat pictures in their future. Even though they won, the game was back and forth. Honestly, neither offense looked that good. Opening kickoff, the Panthers fumbled. It was Chuba Hubbard that gave up the rock and then the Giants kicked capitalized to the kick a field goal. Again, the next drive, Robbie Anderson stripped of the ball, fumbles it away. The Giants are only able to turn it into a field goal. Both offense struggled. There was no touchdown scored in the first half. Opening drive, they traded touchdowns. DJ Moore got a touchdown finally. And then Giants answered, went back, and then it got ugly again. Honestly, three-two games with the... I'm going to start on the Giants side of the ball. Three-two games. It looks like Dabel is trying to hide Daniel Jones, which rightfully so. Daniel Jones does not look good. There he had a really, really bad ball that should have been picked off. The Panthers defensive back just dropped it. I started to get excited with the usage of Kaderius Tony early in this game. He had one big play that was called back by Flags. It looked like they were designing plays specifically to get him balls in space, and then they just stopped. He wound up with two catches, zero yards on three targets. So I really don't know what to make of Kaderius Tony if he's just not Brian Dabel's cup of tea. Sterling Shepard had 10 targets, but he caught six of them, but he only had 34 yards. Richie James, again, led the Giants in fantasy scoring with five catches of 51 yards, and a big fat goose egg for one Mr. Kenny Galladay, which this is saying a lot for Dave Gettemann, but might have been his worst signing as Giants GM. That was bad. It's not too pretty for Kenny Galladay. Jail, is there any Giants past catchers that you're interested at all in fantasy? No, no, there's not until we see one of them produce some consistent fantasy production. I can't trust my fantasy team in these guys' hands. Simon. You know, when situation changes around a quarterback so drastically, like a new head coach, they continue adding weapons. We saw it with Zach Wilson, with Trevor Lawrence this year, with Justin Fields, with Daniel Jones is another one. I like to give them that benefit of the doubt, like maybe it was the situation that was hurting them. They had that draft capital. There's a reason this team is holding on to them and starting them. Well, Daniel Jones is just what we've been seeing from him. And until there's someone else chucking the ball to these receivers, I have zero interest. There's no receiver good enough on this team to hide Daniel Jones, like you said. Like there isn't a DeAndre Hopkins level wide receiver. He doesn't have his Devonte Adams, his Debo Samuel. He's got Sterling Shepherd and Cadarius Tony, and he's going to look like garbage until they finally bench him or move on. So I'm out. Sorry, Daniel. You've really hurt my feelings these first two weeks. Sorry, Danny. Yes, I am in his bust. And as Mr. Scampers said, the rookie tight end Daniel Ballinger did catch a touchdown. And it was more on him than it was Daniel Jones. It wasn't that impressive. Stake 1, Barkley 21, Kerry 72 yards. You would have liked to see a little bit of production out of him, but he did have four targets, three catches, 16 receiving yards, better days are ahead. I'm still fully on board with Stake 1, Barkley. When it comes to the wide receivers, I will say if you've got a deep bench, maybe stash Cadarius Tony if they ever decide to use him, but outside of that, it's ugly. It is really ugly. Speaking of ugly, Baker Mayfield. Sorry, Simon. Baker Mayfield has not looked good through two games with the Carolina Panthers. He just doesn't look comfortable overthrowing passes. He had 14 completions on 29 attempts today. Didn't break 150 passing yards. He did have that one passing touchdown to DJ Moore. Scramble a little bit, 35 yards on the ground. Is Baker Mayfield in trouble? Is he potentially losing his job, Simon? I don't think so. You said he hasn't looked good through two games, but I'm going to disagree with you. In the fourth quarter of that game last week against the Browns, Baker Mayfield looked great. He put up a perfect passer rating in the fourth quarter on those last couple drives. He can be successful in this offense. I think what we're seeing is a bad team with a new quarterback, right? Like it's a new quarterback with a bad team, with a new coach, and they're trying to get things rolling. I don't think the coaching staff here has done him any favors, and I don't think the mistakes on this team have done him any favors in this offense. Sure, they can plug Sam Darnold back in if they want to, but the results aren't going to differ until those other things change. So I think Baker Mayfield's pretty secure. There's a reason he won this job, and I've seen enough out of Sam Darnold that even what we're seeing from Baker now seems like an improvement. Jail. Yeah, I am a little bit concerned. I think a little bit more concerned than Simon, but I am not raising the panic alarms yet. Baker Mayfield's in a new offense. He's working and getting more comfortable into this offense, and I don't know that this, the Carolina Panthers team has a lot of holes in it. So no one expected them to be a fantastic team. Just plugging in Baker wasn't the thing that's going to make them amazing. So I don't think this all falls on Baker. We have seen flashes of him playing very well, but I want to see it a little more consistently going forward. Yeah, absolutely. And for the receivers of the Panthers, Robbie Anderson came back down to earth, but pretty much what you expect from him. He's been a boom bus guy in his entire career. DJ Moore struggled again. He did catch a touchdown, but through two games, he only has six catches for 86 yards. Have to be a little concerned until this Panthers offense gets going. One thing I will say, Christian McCaffrey, good. I was just going to say, take your expectations for any receivers you had here and just knock them down a couple. A little bit of air out. Just take them a tear down. Don't panic, but just lower your expectations. What do you do with DJ Moore? Do you consider benching them until these things get rolling? No, I think you keep playing them. You just keep plugging them in and keep accepting games like this, and it's fine enough. Is that two weeks, two touchdowns for DJ Moore? No, he didn't have one last week. He didn't. Oh, dang. That was just in my dreams jail. Dang it. I always forget that I'm in your dreams. He did have exactly three catches and 43 receiving yards back to back weeks. Nice. Why does he do that? Well, like, why does DJ Moore feel the need to have like statistical consistency across seasons, across games? It's just his M.O. He's very meticulous. Very meticulous. We are going to move on to our next game, 4 p.m. game. We've got the Seahawks against the San Francisco 49ers. The 49ers making clean work of the Seahawks 27 to 7, the final score of this one. Yes, and the big news coming out of this one is Trey Lance broke his ankle in the second drive of this play. Trey Lance, who has been touted as the starter all off season, this whole Jimmy G saga, trade saga, is just going to work out for the 49ers. It's going to work out that they kept Jimmy G, because Trey Lance's season is over. Trey Lance's season is over. Jimmy Garoppolo is now the starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. So before even getting into this game, what are the implications of this? From your guys' opinions on the San Francisco side of this, who is being affected and what way are they being affected? What does this mean to the 49ers going forward in terms of fantasy? What do you think, Simon? I mean, first, this sucks. Trey Lance, I was so excited to see a full season from him. You hate seeing a player go down like this. Man, I hope he gets better and I hope next season he comes back and just blows it up in 2023. But it's going to be him out for the rest of the season. Now, Jimmy G, what this does is it makes this entire offense a little bit more predictable, I think. We can look back at last season a little bit more. We can look at the Debo usage. We can look at the George Kittle usage. We can look at the IUC usage because who was thrown on the ball? It was Jimmy Garoppolo. And they're probably just going to roll back into that same offense they were comfortable with last year. So does it have a positive impact? It's relatively neutral. You know what I mean? I think the upside with Trey Lance and getting that offense moving was a little bit higher than with Jimmy G, but the consistency for the receiving options is going to get a little bump with Jimmy G back on center. So we'll call it a wash with more predictability. Wash more predictability. What about you, Jay? Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything that Simon said. The one thing I will say is I think it's a slight, very ever so slight bump up for the running backs on this team because you're not going to have to worry about Jimmy Garoppolo rushing in the red zone like you would Trey Lance. Maybe a slight bump for Debo Samuel's rushing, although I really don't think that Trey Lance was going to hurt Debo Samuel's rushing production. So maybe for Jeff Wilson, maybe a very ever so slight bump up. Okay, I think that's fair enough. All right, getting into this game, these San Francisco 49ers very easily beat the Seattle Seahawks to Seahawks not scoring until the third quarter. The San Francisco had 373 total yards in this game compared to Seattle's 216. Once Jimmy Garoppolo came in, he had 13 completions of 21 attempts for 154 yards and single passing touchdown. Jeff Wilson was the dominant running back on the scene, but Trey on Davis Price got some work in this game. Guys, how are you feeling now with Elijah Mitchell out for a couple weeks? How are you feeling about this Jeff Wilson Trey on Davis Price breakdown? Is this how you expected it? How are you maneuvering with these guys going forward? I am, you know what? And you can go back, check the tape. This is exactly what I expected. I said, don't count out TDP just because he wasn't active last week. He plays a different role and they're probably going to mix him in with Elijah Mitchell being out. Jordan Mason was there as the clear backup, right? To Jeff Wilson probably, but TDP was the guy who stepped up this week. Jeff Wilson is going to continue being the guy, but seeing 14 touches from TDP in this first game for him in the NFL, pretty promising, right? He didn't do much with them, but we'll probably see both of these guys continue to be involved. Jeff Wilson is the one to roster, though Jeff Wilson is the one to play. TDP is a dynasty bench dash if you've got the room down there. But Jeff Wilson, you can plug him in. You can play him week in, week out. Not crazy upside, but he's the dude. He's going to get the most carries. And what they were saying, the reason that TDP was inactive week one and Jordan Mason was not is Jordan Mason plays on special teams. So that's one of those things that you just have to take it for what it's worth. They showed this week that when somebody's going to get the touches out of the backfield other than Jeff Wilson, it's going to be Davis Price. And sorry, I just couldn't say TDP one more time. I couldn't take it. I think that he's somebody. He's the stash behind Jeff Wilson. Stash behind. Okay, so the clear running back to who we got Coop in here saying, Jay has an amazing take about mobile quarterback being out and rushing upside for running backs. Fair enough. Fair enough. He didn't say poop water fast enough. So we're giving him no credit for his stakes today. Got to say poop water. Moving over to the other side of this ball. It's pretty uninspiring performance, I'd say, by the entire team. I think most notable conversation out of this one is we've got to see some Kenneth Walker, this game, boys. Kenneth Walker made his NFL debut four carries for 10 yards. Are you guys adjusting how you're feeling about this Seattle running backcourt Rashad Penney, Kenneth Walker, a little more confident that Kenneth Walker might actually have a role? They went down big early, right? They were never involved in this game. It was 20 to zero before they could even like sniff their own farts and they were just sitting there wondering what they were going to do. So the running backs are almost completely taken out of the game plan here. I'm not reading too much into this game for them. Maybe Kenneth Walker gets more involved, but what am I going to read from four carries and three targets? I just am not trying to take too much out of them using their rookie running back in a blowout. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I'm pretty much exactly how I did going into the season that Rashad Penney is poop water by the end of the season. Kenneth Walker is going to have this backbill to himself. Oh, you think he's going to beat out Rashad Penney? You don't care about last season? I think by the end of the season, no, I don't. That's all I got to say about that. That's all I got to say about that. That's all I got to say about that. Before we go, let's talk a little bit about this Sunday night football game that is starting momentarily. We've got the Bears at the Packers. You guys know what I'm looking for. I'm looking for that bounceback week for Mr. Justin Beal, Darnell Mooney and Cole Comet. You guys picked some Mooney earlier, at least JL did. Jay, what do you expect him from Mr. Mooney in this game? Do you think we're going to see a better game than last week? I do. I'm still high on Mr. Mooney and Mr. Comet. And the Bears offense as a whole. I don't know if this is necessarily going to be game, the game that happens. But as our guy Koop likes to say, you want, even in a bad offense, if you've got somebody who is a top two option in the past catching hierarchy on that offense, then I think you'll be okay. And I think both, I think Mooney's won. I think Comet's two. And I think they're both going to be just fine. This game is starting right now as we speak. Clock at 15 minutes in the first quarter. Before we go though, real quick, let's take some predictions. JL, what do you think is going to win this game? Bears or Packers? You know what? Let's make it a little bit harder. The live line right now is at 10 and a half points in favor of the Packers. This is a, otherwise we're all going to go online with this game. It just moved to 11 and a half. We're sticking it, we're sticking at 10 and a half. We're going to stick it at 10 and a half, JL. Are you taking the Packers minus 10 and a half or the Bears plus 10 and a half in this one? I'm taking the, I'm taking the Packers still. Still taking the Packers. Packers with the points going. Packers minus 10 and a half for JL. I'm writing this down. This is an animal noise bet. Jay, what about you? I'm going to go with the Bears. I think they'll, I don't think they'll win, but I'll think they'll keep it close enough, especially in a divisional game, the way that the Packers offense looked last week. I think they'll keep it close. I wrote these down and Jay, I'm on your side. I'm taking the Bears coming in and covering the spread. I'm not picking up the win though. So JL, you may be all alone. What's your score prediction for this game? Jay, what you got? Oh man. I didn't, I, I was looking at the, the jellyfish noises that JL was attempting to make. 20, 20. I'm going to go, I'm, go ahead, JL. I'm sorry. I'm, now you go. 27, 20 Packers. 27, 20 Packers. JL, you got a score prediction for me? 24, 14 Packers. Wait, wait, wait, no, I need to go more. 27, 14 Packers. 27, 14. And it's how it's 12 and a half guys. The line keeps moving. Let's have some fun on Sunday night football and unexpected shootout. I'm going to go with 35, 30 Packers over the Bears. 35, 30 to the Bears covering. That would be so much fun. That's just wishful thinking. I am willing an exciting Sunday night football game into existence for everyone. We will be back here next week, same time, same place, doing the same thing, but different numbers every single time. It's amazing how football works. Until then, we are out of here. Enjoy Sunday night football and the rest of your weekend. Adios everyone. Bye bye. And yet again, I