 Today's episode of the Occupy Wall Street Show is brought to you by Mount Gox, m-t-g-o-x dot com, and The Thank You Economy by Gary Vaynerchuk. Everybody, and welcome to the first numero uno premiere episode of the Occupy Wall Street Show. We're really, really excited to bring you this new show that we're launching. And this is the first episode, as I said. Occupy Wall Street's been going on over a month now. It's a really, really exciting movement. There's just so much to say about it. We decided to launch a whole show about it. One of the things we want to do is bring to you a real in-depth look at how Occupy Wall Street movement actually works, because what you're seeing in the mainstream media is very, very, very tiny little 30-second segments and often very biased opinions and so on. A lot of organizations and entities and even political parties are trying to co-opt what they're doing. But what we want to do is bring you actual leaders or people, not leaders, but facilitators of each of the actual working groups to come in and interview them and talk about exactly how the process works. The direct democracy, which most people, most Americans, this is a new concept for them. They haven't, they didn't even know that this was going on. But this is the core fundamental nature of this Occupy Wall Street movement is the direct democracy that's happening there. So we're really, really excited to bring that to you. And we're also going to have, as they do at the General Assemblies, at all the Occupy Movement gatherings, they have a thing called a soap box. So that after the General Assembly, people can just take turns and get up on the soap box and say whatever they want to say. And as long as people are willing to listen, people can listen so that they can kind of vent their views and their opinions so everybody's voice can be heard. So we'll have a few times a week we're going to have a facilitator from each of the working groups, one at a time explaining all the intricate details of that. And then a couple of times a week we'll have a soap box segment. And that's what it is today. I first want to show you this video. This was from Friday, October 14th. As you may recall, on Thursday the 13th, Mayor Bloomberg, actually I think previous to that, had announced that they were going to evict the protesters from Liberty Square for cleaning, for cleaning. And many people said that they thought that that was the sort of just a premise for getting them out and then they wouldn't let them back in except under real strict rules and so on. Well, the media got ahold of that and everybody was anticipating a real confrontation. So we were down there till midnight on the night of the 13th and then I was back down there really early like five or six a.m. on the 14th. And we were shooting video down there, checking it out. I've never seen such an enormous parade of police power cruisers going by, just dozens and dozens of them with those sirens blaring for no reason. Just buses and vans full of officers. It seemed like a sea of officers. And just like this huge enormous show of force to kind of show off their presence. So anyway, everyone was expecting this big, big event to happen. Of course, I was down there with my camera and my battery was good, but my SD card was full. So I was cursing myself for not having an extra one. So I left, I actually left and I figured I was probably gonna miss all the action, but I had to run back to the studio to get some more SD cards. And when I left, it was very interesting. I was quite a few blocks up north to grab the subway. And I wanna show you what I saw. This was around 10 a.m. on Friday the 14th. And you don't see the very beginning because I didn't get the camera started in time. But what you would have seen if I had started the camera right from the beginning was a couple police cars with their sirens wailing. And this big, enormous SUV, like I don't know what it was, but some sort of a big black, blackened windows SUV in between them. Like obviously a police escort of some VIPs. And before the SUV even came to a complete stop, the doors flung open and these two guys jumped out. So I knew it was somebody important, but I didn't know who it was. But take a look at this video. So as you can see, this is right after they jumped out. And I recognized later that that is Ray Kelly, who's the chief of police for NYPD. And I don't know, apparently a bodyguard. So but you can't tell right there from the video, but they literally jumped out of the vehicle. I mean, the doors flung open before they even stopped. And he was walking very briskly. You could tell he was in a hurry from the moment he jumped out of that car. And what's kind of scurrying right into City Hall. But I thought that was a little bit interesting because as you know, the turn of events that happened right after that, Bloomberg backed down and to the pressure of the people. There were so many people showed up to show their support. So anyway, so today we have with us our great friend, Dan O'Connor, who is running for US Congress, New York District 12. Welcome, Dan. Thanks, thanks for having me. So I want to talk with you about Occupy Wall Street and also about the global central bankers and that whole situation. I know that you're very knowledgeable about that. First, I don't know if you are aware, we talked briefly about what is happening like right now as of well last night, Albany, Albany, New York, what I read on Twitter and on the forums and stuff is that the police actually defied the orders of the mayor of Albany and the governor Cuomo of New York. That they ordered them to arrest these 700 plus protesters and the police said no. They just said absolutely no, we're not going to do it. They're peaceful protesters and if we start arresting peaceful protesters, there's going to be a riot and we don't have the manpower to do it. And they actually said that we are the experts in policing. The governor and the mayor are not. What do you think about that? I think it's great, I think it's encouraging. All across the US, we certainly see many instances and cases of police brutality and they're overstepping their boundaries and abusing their power. And this is undeniable, but at the same time, most police officers out there are in fact good people and I think the people down at Occupy Wall Street or the Occupy movements all across the country can pretty much be assured that this is not going to turn into martial law at least any time in the immediate future. Yeah, let's hope not. I read a tweet on Twitter today. Somebody had said, have the police ever been on the right side of liberty and justice? And I said, well, they were last night in Albany. I mean, it's a start. The problem isn't really the police or the police officers themselves. I think it's the people giving the orders, the power structure that's up above them. But interesting that it was coming directly from the governor who raided his own backyard in Albany saying, arrest these people and the mayor even under orders of the governor to arrest these people. And the police said, no, they're not breaking any laws and they're peaceful protesters and we're not going to do it. Now then the other news is this morning, literally right before we started the show, we were watching the live stream and seeing that something like at 5 AM California time, the police came into Oakland, California and started arresting people and using pepper spray and what is it called? I don't L-R-A-D, I don't even know what that is, LRAD. They said they deployed it but they hadn't used it yet. So they're taking their stuff and their equipment and basically arresting everybody out there. And this is in Oakland, I'm kind of surprised because I always think of San Francisco as being pretty liberal and open-minded that Bay Area but it's, wow, amazing. I'll tell you, the district where I'm running, it borders on the financial district. So it is quite close for me and it's also coincidental that this is gonna be a big part of my campaign platform, the corporatism. I'm very critical of the corporatism. I'm very critical of the banks in bed with the government through the Federal Reserve system. There are a lot of people down at Occupy Wall Street, I visited it a few times. And a lot of them are very critical of the Federal Reserve system because it in itself is the essence of corporatism, of cronyism. It is the government connected to the banks, which in many ways it controls the economy. My Occupy Wall Street sign says, and the Fed, they're all in bed and the Fed owns the bed. And then it lists them all, basically everything. I mean, it's like all the corporations in that, including Petrochemical and the pharmaceutical companies. I mean, everybody from A to Z, all the global corporations that we are kind of sort of known evildoers, they're all owned. But beyond that, the government basically, if they own all the politicians in both parties, and it's not like they bribe them after the fact either, it's that they got them elected in the first place. So they didn't have to buy them. They already owned them before they ran. Absolutely. And my opponent, who I'm challenging, she gets most of her campaign money from banks. And the financial companies in New York, she coincidentally sits on the finance committee in Congress and Goldman Sachs was her largest donor in the previous election. And again, they're giving a lot of money to her. And she's very much entrenched with the system and entrenched with the establishment. This is something that it's tough to fight up against, because as you mentioned, they do have a lot of influence and control over the politicians who they fund. Yeah, that's going to be a huge problem. There was something about Stephen Colbert created a super PAC. Did you hear about that? And it's the story that I got something about in the process of doing it, kind of on a lark as a joke, you know, because he's a comedian. But he discovered that although donations could not be anonymous, you could create another kind of a PAC that is anonymous. And that the way these guys are doing it is the vast majority, almost all of their donations go through this anonymous PAC. And then the anonymous PAC writes one check to the regular PAC. So in fact, they just bypass the whole system and their donations can be completely anonymous. Yes, it is very rigged the whole donation system and the way that it works. It very much favors the large corporations. It favors the establishment, the status quo. You know, Obama got most of his funding from Wall Street and they helped basically propel him onto the national stage. It's well documented. It's well known now that he was funded, got most of his funding from Wall Street. And now, again, we're seeing the same thing with the other establishment candidate, Mitt Romney. He's getting most of his money from banks from Wall Street. Wall Street, in many ways, they like the status quo. They profit from the status quo. Therefore, they throw money at it and they do what they can to keep it. So if you were evil and corrupt and you had the sole license and monopoly to print the money, what would you do? Pretty much kind of like I imagine what the Federal Reserve does. If they can print trillions of dollars, then they can buy anything, including every politician. So how do the American people combat that? How could we elect people in Washington and otherwise that really represent us and know for sure that they aren't bought and paid for by the Federal Reserve, by these bankers, this whole entire infrastructure. It's a giant pyramid. Also, it's not the local bank or the community bank that you deal with. It's just the gigantic pyramid and even Wall Street is none of the top. The top top, I think, is the Federal Reserve, the owners of the Federal Reserve, which actually is the same guys. When you get to the top, it's just a small little club. So how do the American people combat that? How are you going to find candidates that aren't owned? I think movements like the Occupy Movement are great. I think change, real change in the country does come from the grassroots Tea Party. I might not agree with all members of the Tea Party, but it is in fact a grassroots movement and this is where real change comes from all throughout history, all across the world. Change does come from the grassroots and a great thing about what's going on in recent years is that people have come to identify that the source of the problem is in fact the Federal Reserve Bank. It's not 20% tax rate versus 25% tax rate, which is really what we see going on in the political debate for the most part. Should we tax it 20%, we tax it with 30%. Not nearly as relevant as the main source of the problem, which is the Federal Reserve. It is because of the Federal Reserve that the debt problem is as bad as it is. It is because of the Federal Reserve that the booms and busts occur within the economy. We just saw the biggest boom, housing prices through the roof quadrupled in five years. This is not a, people decided suddenly, I like houses. This is a result of money printing and low interest rates by the Federal Reserve Bank. But yes, it's great that more and more people are waking up to the source of the problem. Although as you mentioned, the mainstream media does try to control the debate. When they go down to Occupy Wall Street, I was there last week and Geraldo showed up and they try to make it seem as though they're really getting into Occupy Wall Street what's going on down there. But they brought in their own guests who they're talking about, Herman Cain, 999, half of the time. They really weren't getting in with the people and the movement. It was really just a stage for them to see. I was going to say they should have just done it on the green screen and had an artificial image of like as if they were there. Because they're not really there at all. They're not talking to people. They're just bringing, like you said, bringing in their own guests, have their own agenda. Just commandeer the whole thing and call it Occupy Wall Street. So that's just what we're going to be very careful not to do because I don't want to co-opt this. I mean that's the thing I've been actually preaching a little bit is if there is a dogma or doctrine or whatever for Occupy Wall Street, I think number one should be don't let it be co-opted by anybody's political agenda. And so that's why I want to hear. We are going to have the soapbox thing where people can spew their own opinions and they will be varying and diverse. But the main official Occupy Wall Street stuff is the working groups of people. And so that's why I want to hear directly from them. How are these working groups going? And I especially am interested in the team they call Facilitation, which is about the direct democracy. I mean people, they're not even talking about this on the media. I mean barely, barely they mention that they actually, what goes on in these general assemblies, this whole idea of the sign language that they use and how they're actually putting proposals forward and how people are actually voting on them and that nobody's voice is more important than anybody else's. It's really, really cool. There's one video I saw where this guy was interviewed and he said he's like, he's older than me, you know, whatever. And he said he's never been so proud to be an American, to be down there and to see how that operates. And that's what I want to bring to light. I want to show people, you know, how that really works. Excellent. So the, okay, how does it, what do you want to talk about as far as the central banks go? I mean, what I don't understand is, I mean, I can only imagine, but the Federal Reserve, I guess the people who own the Federal Reserve are the same guys that are the bankers, the JPMorgan and all these huge bankers, so are they the same guys or does one own the other? They sit on the board, you know, at the Federal Reserve Bank, here in New York, obviously the biggest of all the different branches all across the U.S., the largest one is in New York, obviously the most influential one. These are the ones where Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan sits at the head of it and David Rockefeller of JPMorgan Chase over the years used to sit at the head of it and members of Goldman Sachs sit at the head and they make decisions. Coincidentally, these are also the banks that happen to do extremely well trading derivatives and predicting the way the market will change in the future. They predict it and then they make it happen and then they win the bet, yeah. And then they create derivatives and they bet against their own derivatives because they know that they're not worth anything and win the bet. It's crazy, right? So they're not really separate entities if they're all owned by the same few, the same old boys club, right? They're all the same. And obviously the Federal Reserve is a private corporation like Walmart or Coca-Cola. I heard that there's a Federal Reserve board, people get misled and it seems so intentional by design because you only have to have like one or two layers of complexity and the average person is like, oh that's too complicated, I don't understand. But I mean even the name Federal Reserve, it sounds governmental and it sounds like a good thing. It has reserves or something, but it's just like it may as well be called Starbucks or Walmart or Coca-Cola or whatever. But then the other thing is that there's a Federal Reserve board, which I heard people are appointed to that board, like the president appoints somebody to that board and so on. But that board has absolutely no power or authority over the actual Federal Reserve. They're completely separate entities. They just happen to share the same name. It's just like the whole thing is a fraud. The whole thing is a big sham. And who reports to who? People think that the government has authority over the Federal Reserve, but it seems to me the government absolutely reports to the Federal Reserve from beginning to end and every politician in between almost everyone. You're absolutely right. On the bright side though, these issues are coming up in Congress now. In Congress they are coming out and they are bringing people to the table like Timothy Geidner, who was head of the New York Federal Reserve for years, now Treasury Secretary, very very closely affiliated with Goldman Sachs, but he is being questioned now. And this is a step in the right direction. They are asking him questions. They're asking him questions like, hey, right before the bailouts took place, why were you on the phone with Goldman Sachs all day every day? We're looking at your call log and they're asking them questions like how are these people, how do they become appointed? Who decides how these people are appointed? And it's great that these questions are being asked now because for many, many years the Federal Reserve Bank was essentially neglected in political discussions. In Congress, basically it was hands off. They do what they want. Nobody understands it. They use their technical jargon, scientific graphs and charts and interest rates and people are like, eh, I don't really want to try to understand that. Yeah, exactly. Like I said, one level of complexity and it's like, oh, that's too calm. All I know is I get paid and it's not enough to pay the rent or whatever. That's all they know. And yeah, people use jargon to talk circles around people. I know this from my background in computers that technologists, basically what I'm saying was if I know one thing more than you, then I'm the consultant, you pay me. And so if I can talk jargon, it makes me sound important and official and I can just confuse you. And most people are embarrassed to say, I don't know what you're talking about, but not me. They just sit there and go, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Can you please explain this to me in English? And if they can't, if they insist on jargon, it's because they're hiding something. Either that or they just don't have any ability to communicate with a human being. But usually people use jargon in complexity just because they don't want to tell you the truth. And lots of euphemisms, QE3, they should really just call money printing. Yeah, exactly. Money printing. And I always say QE3, it should be called the Titanic. It's, God, it's just so, so... If Americans and the world really knew how the thing works, they would just, they really would write in the streets. They would just be absolutely, I think they are taking it in the streets now and people are like, but what are their demands? I ran into this lady in the elevator the other day and she saw my, I had a t-shirt that somebody had given me at Occupy Wall Street and said 99% of that. And she said, and I said, she's like, what do you think about that? And I said, wow, it's growing. This is the biggest thing since the American Revolution. I think this is really, really going to be huge because it's not a political thing. It's not the red team versus the blue team. These are 20 to 25-year-olds primarily leading the way who are very well educated. Degrees from William & Mary, you know, law degree from George Brown or whatever. And they know their stuff. And they've educated themselves not only through education through the universities but also through the internet. I mean, it's self-serve education, but they know the score. They know how these things work for the most part. So they're not biased, they're not, somebody did a poll and they said more than 70% of them are independent. So, you know- They're independent in terms of- A political party affiliation, they did a poll, yeah, and they said more than 70% are independent. They're not any more approving of Obama than they were of Bush. They know that it's just more of the same. They voted for change and didn't get any and, you know, they know that the thing is a sham. And we've kind of, like, my generation has kind of always known that, but it was kind of like the elephant in the room, like everybody kind of knows that, but what can you do, you know? But these kids are like, we know that and we are going to do something about it because, you know, this is the beginning of our lives, you know, we've got a whole life ahead of us and damn, you know, this isn't right. So they're going to do something about it. So they're taking it to the streets and, oh, so this lady in the elevator asks, so what do they want? And I said, well, if I had to sum it up in one word, I would say democracy. If I had a few other words, I would, in a tweet, I would say what they really want is what we always thought we had. We thought this was a free country. We want freedom, liberty and democracy. That's what we want and real freedom, liberty and democracy, real democracy, which we haven't had. I mean, since 1913 at least, I don't know, you know, when was the last time we had real freedom, liberty and democracy in this country? It's just been a sham. It's been a Hollywood, you know, story, I mean, you know, America, land of the free, but it's not. It hasn't been. It has been a tyranny, a tyranny of the bankers. You know, so we went real democracy. We really want people to actually have a say in how things are run. I also saw an image on Twitter this morning, which actually, I had, this thought had occurred to me the other day and I hadn't even said anything to anybody, but then this morning I saw an image somebody tweeted, which was really interesting because I knew, you know, we talk about the 99%, meaning the top 1%, what is it, the top 1% wealthiest people in this country have 80% of the wealth or something like some number like that. So that's where this came from, we are the 99%. But I also knew this statistic, which most people don't know, that if you are, even the poorest people in the US are the top 1% wealthiest people in the world, because when you look at, you know, starvation and famine and poverty throughout the planet, the poorest Americans are the top 1% of the world, so I thought that was just a little bit of an interesting karma-like thing that, you know, we have been the top, all Americans have been the top 1% of the entire planet, but within the United States, you know, it's a whole other thing, which actually makes it even more grotesque to think of these billionaires and central bankers are trillionaires, literally they can print trillions of dollars, you know, it's just grotesque how much wealth they have and how little good it's doing, you know. So all right, well, we got to take a break here real quick and thank our sponsors because if it weren't for our sponsors, we wouldn't be here. So first it's MtGox, m-t-g-o-x dot com. 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Well, that's part of what I'm hoping to do accomplishment and what I'm doing and running for office. And also I think a big part of it is spreading of ideas and people coming to realize where the source of the problem is. And more and more people are waking up to that. And things like the Occupy Wall Street Movement are great because it is grass roots, and you go down there and it's people talking. People exchanging ideas, educating each other, debating. It's civilized the times that I've been down there. And it's great. People going back and forth and exchanging ideas. And when I'm down there, I'm obviously talking about my biggest concern, which is the Federal Reserve Bank, and it's right across the street from where these people are standing. So what are you telling them about the Federal Reserve? Most people don't even know where it came from, how it came about. Do most people still think it's part of the government? Yeah, most people don't really know anything about it, period. A lot of people know that lots of trillions of dollars have been printed in recent years. And they're the bailouts, which are unpopular. 80% of the American public are against the bailouts. But most people don't know where it came from, or how it was created, or why it was created. They don't know that JPMorgan's people and Rockefeller's people secretly got together a few years before its formation. And they came up with a plan and devised a plan in a way that in which they would get bailed out when they made bad loans. And they would get bailed out by printing money. And this was the plan for a while. JPMorgan, the biggest banker in the US, he's looking across the ocean saying, wait a second. These bankers in Europe, every time they make bad loans, they get bailed out by the central banks. I want that. And sure enough, he devised a way and he came up with a way. And now, me, someone here in New York, everywhere I look, I see JPMorgan Chase banks coincidentally. Everything. They're the big ones. And they've gotten all the favors. And they work with the IMF and the World Bank and obviously the central bank. And Paul Walker, the head of the Federal Reserve Bank, a long time ago, came straight out of Chase and JPMorgan. It's all interconnected. And the more people realize what's going on, the more repulsed they become and they detest it. It doesn't matter what political party you are, Republican, Democrat, people hate the favors for the rich and they hate the cronyism and the whole system. The whole system. Even Visa, MasterCard, you see city bank Chase everywhere you look. I mean, you think there's a lot of Starbucks out there, but when you look, you walk down the, I mean, now I'm like, I have this heightened awareness. And like I got off the subway at Columbus Circle and I'm walking on this huge, long corridor all the way to 57th Street. Every single billboard is taken by MasterCard Visa. MasterCard Visa, MasterCard Visa, MasterCard Visa. It's just like everywhere you look, that's what it is. And you know, it didn't- We'd see more Bitcoin signs. Yeah, exactly. We need more. And for sure, we need more Bitcoin signs. That's true. How many more are sprouting up? What sort of? Well, it's slowly catching on. You know, the thing is, obviously, they don't have $100 million a year to put in TV commercials and so on. Like MasterCard Visa and the banks just print their money to do it. But it's another grassroots movement because it's a peer-to-peer technology and it's completely open source and nobody's making money off of promoting it, you know, directly. So there's no benefit to, there's no budget for mass advertising. How do we get it out there? How do we get Bitcoin? How do we spread it? How do we make it more abundant or? I don't know. I mean, what I'm doing in that regard is we do a weekly meetup for Occupy Wall Street supporters here, we host. And then we also do a Bitcoin meetup too. And they're kind of back-to-back. So people stay for the first one they're gonna learn about Bitcoin. Plus, here on the Occupy Wall Street show, one of the things we're gonna do is we are gonna bring up Bitcoin occasionally. We're gonna talk about Bitcoin because we are hoping that the audience that's interested in Occupy Wall Street will also investigate Bitcoin because, you know, if you don't know already, it is the money of the future. It's not a bank. It's not issued by a bank or a government. It's a completely open source free software. It's really like the people's own money. It's like the internet itself. It's all about freedom. So it can't be controlled and shut down. I saw a video on YouTube about WikiLeaks. They're talking about 95% of their funding, their donations have been cut off because of the government's control over MasterCard, Visa, and PayPal. So, you know, there's a perfect example how the government can just push a button and they don't like who you're donating to. They just turn it off like a faucet. What about, you know, WikiLeaks can't Bitcoin work with WikiLeaks? Yes, actually they do. Well, Bitcoin works with anybody who wants to work with it. Bitcoin is not a company. So if you accept Bitcoin for anything, you're accepting Bitcoin, there's no control over it, which is a good thing. And yes, actually for several months now, WikiLeaks does accept Bitcoin donations. Excellent. Yeah, so that's a good thing. Yeah, I mean... Has it been active, you know? Do you know if there's a lot going into that? I don't know. I don't really know. We should write to us, put up our email address there so they know OccupyShow at only1tv. Send us an email and keep me informed of what's going on because I'm supposed to know. But let us know. Do you know anything about how many Bitcoin donations I'm sure these guys do? They can easily check. How many Bitcoin donations WikiLeaks has received? But it's a really good alternative because you can buy Bitcoin, speaking of our sponsor, MtGox. You can literally go to MtGox.com and buy Bitcoins with your dollars or yen or 16 other currencies. And then just turn around and buy $20 worth of Bitcoin and then send that $20 to WikiLeaks as in the form of Bitcoin and completely bypass. And while you're at it, it's not just for WikiLeaks, of course. You can use it for anything. It's just called financial privacy. That's the thing. These banks, they control absolutely everything and they know everything you do and what you buy and where you shop. They know way, way, way too much information. And what's really disconcerting is now that they can just say, we don't like you donating to that cause. By the way, Occupy Wall Street. If you go to occupywallst.org, that's their official website, they accept donations as Bitcoins too. And they even have a special one for the live stream. If you wanna donate specifically to support the live stream, they accept Bitcoin donations there too. So it's about financial privacy and it's also about screw the government's ability to say you can't donate to this cause or that cause. That's not the government's role. And people are starting to wake up to that. And really it's actually so Bitcoin is the perfect fit for this whole movement, the whole idea of alternative banking. There actually is a work group called Alternative Currencies. So I'm gonna get involved in that too and make sure they're aware of Bitcoin. So I'm doing my part, we'll try and educate people all the way around cause it's all these ideas are synergistic, definitely. Yeah, and I think you're absolutely right. And I think it's a matter of identifying individuals or companies or groups out there who would benefit from Bitcoin and really trying to align with them. And then they could also help with the advertising and the marketing of it. Exactly, exactly. So if you have a business or a brick and mortar shop or an online shop or any sort of content creation you wanna accept donations, you can accept donations via Bitcoin. Not for political campaigns though, unfortunately. Yeah, not for political campaigns unless you go through those anonymous packs and all that crap. But anyway, you can go to bitcoinme.com is an educational website. This is the brochure that I created, bitcoinme.com that teaches people about just the basics of what Bitcoin is. And it literally in five seconds you can get set up to accept Bitcoin donations or accept Bitcoin as a business. So here we are, talking about Bitcoin again. We never stop talking about Bitcoin, but it is, it's a perfect tie-in for this. I mean, when we talk about banking, we talk about money, it's also related, you know, just, you know, there's just no need to, for the, first of all, you know, we talk about end the Fed and audit the Fed and I mean, when people say end the Fed do they mean literally to shut it down? What they really mean is to nationalize it, right? To bring it back to where it belongs in the Constitution to Congress. Congress is the one who has the right to, and the authority, the only authority to issue money for the country, right? As per the Constitution, correct. I think a lot of people have different strategies in different ways. Those who oppose Federal Reserve and Central Banking have different solutions and different ways of trying to get rid of it. I don't think too many people advocate necessarily abolishing it overnight. One of the subscriptions that I like a lot is the idea of actually removing legal tender laws and allowing any sort of currencies to float in the economy and this is very much in line with Bitcoin and that whole notion. But, you know, the fact is that the government doesn't allow us to use gold or silver to transact and buy things. Well, actually, see, there's a technicality that people get really confused about and I'm almost positive I'm right about this. Legal tender laws, people won't get confused. We are allowed to transact business in silver and gold and in baseball cards or anything we want. Even alternate currencies, Bitcoin is legal and these alternate private currencies are legal. We're allowed to do that but the legal tender means that we're required to accept it and legal tender in the US is the Federal Reserve notes and we're required to accept those notes in payment for a debt but that's the only case. So if we don't have a debt, then I'm not required to take dollars. Like for example, if I own a burger shop and you pay in advance for your order, there's no debt, then I don't have to accept US dollars but I know what you're talking about. There are a lot of new laws. I think actually Ron Paul initiated a bill that was going to really eliminate the requirement to take US dollars even for a debt and also to literally, what I'm trying to say, specifically endorse alternate currencies which I think is a good thing. Sure and Ron Paul is certainly the most outspoken guy in DC on these issues. Most of the other people in DC say, you know what? I don't understand it, it's not important to me. I'm not gonna make a big deal about it. They're a handful of others though, more and more getting on board, becoming more aware of it, speaking out against it. Nancy Kaptur, Dennis Kucinich, Democrats. Andrew Jackson, the first Democrat president of the United States abolished central bank effectively. One time, New York state governor, Grover Cleveland was a very outspoken critic of central banking and any sort of central bank, very big proponent of gold, who was also a Democrat here in New York. Maybe that's the way Americans can identify which politicians aren't owned by the bankers because if they're against the central bank, they're not owned by the central bank. Maybe that's a fair assumption, I don't know. And when you go online and you look opensource.com and you see where they get their donations from, you can see where some of these senators and some of these congress people get their funding from. That's the main thing. A lot of it comes from these big banks. That's probably the best way. And then the other thing too is because they can say anything as we know, they can just say anything like Obama. I mean, he says all the right things, but what he does is just so, so opposite of what he says. Most of the time it seems like it's unbelievable. But people are just so, I don't know what, they're just so busy or preoccupied or apathetic. They just hear what he says and go, oh, I'm gonna vote for him. I like what he says, but they don't pay any attention to what he does. Oh my gosh. Yeah, publicly he criticizes Wall Street and all the things that go on down there. And then at the same time, that's where he's getting his donations from. Yeah, I think we're gonna end the war. One of the first thing I'm gonna do when I get in office is end the war. Oh my gosh, he's just on the opposite in every regard. Now he says he's gonna end the war before the end of the year, but I'll believe that when we see it, right? I think there, I was thinking about, the second by Wall Street thing, we're talking about new revolutionary ways to really change things up, to really stir up the pot, to reboot the system. And I was thinking, this is one of the biggest problems we have is politicians saying one thing and doing another once they're elected. And I was thinking there should be a way to return them, like give them 90 days, like if you get a new job, you get 90 days probation, right? They should have a 90 day probation period. And if they don't do all the things or at least try their damnedest to do all the things that they promised to do within the first 90 days, boom, they're just re-vote, you know? There'd be no one left in DC. There wouldn't be, right? I'll tell you though, and I totally agree, but one way of dealing with it is term limits, limiting these politicians to a certain amount of terms. I've pledged to only serve X amount of terms in office and I've also pledged to only accept half of the salary available to me, but yes, term limits is a great solution because all these politicians, they're just concerned about re-election all the time. How do they get re-elected? How do they get re-elected? Rather than focusing on what they're doing in the office at the time. So when you can find them and you restrict them, if they're not constantly worried about getting elected again. And campaign contributions is another thing. I think they should only have a very small limit and it should only be from citizens that are in their constituency, not from any corporations or anybody else, just voters basically. But anyway, we're out of time, but thanks so much again for joining us. It's always a pleasure. Time flies when we get started. Yeah, it's always a pleasure. Thanks for having me on again. Sure, sure. All right, thanks. See you guys. Thanks for joining us. Ciao.