 spontaneous livestreams. I've got Jesus behind me pointing the way in the light and we have brothers and sisters in Christ rejoicing in the happy life of healing we're leading. Yes there's been challenges of course and there's dark emotions that come up but here we go we're going for it. So I have Kat Frith today and Kenneth Price. Kat is up in the United States and Kenneth is down in Ajijic, Mexico at Namaste. So first of all I just wanted to say how grateful I am that you could come on so spontaneously this is the first time I've done three different locations at the same time on on this platform so it's working I think it's going to work great but and I have to say off the bat that Kat and Kenneth have invited Svava and I to come up to Portland, Oregon coming up in October I think it's October 18th so we'll talk about that a little later but I'm very excited because I get a maybe one road trip a month and and you guys are going to be there and it's going to be exciting. Kenneth said I'll show you some of the sites of Portland during the day and then I'll get a little siesta in and be fresh for a nice evening gathering so well let's see maybe we can just start Kat you want to just share first just a little bit about your journey because I think you and Kenneth have some parallels too besides living in the same city but maybe you can share a little bit Kat about what's been going on for you lately and your draw to Mexico and to the silence and what's really important for you right now in your healing. Yeah I well I'm honored to be here thank you and I'm excited to bring you to Portland I think there's a lot of excitement here for that we're we're not sure yet but I got a feeling there's a lot of excitement and for me oh wow yeah it's it's been an amazing journey I've I'm just so grateful for Jesus giving you the the digital revolution because it made all the difference for me in I studied the course sort of you know on my own for years but until I I hooked up with you and some other great teachers that are on zoom I didn't I wasn't practicing it in my life and that's made all the difference for me and I I went to Mexico to La Casa de Milagros in February for a prayers day in between your mystery schools and it was so profound for me that I extended a week to really soak it up because it's just the silence and and it's so helpful and in the mind training and I fell in love with Mexico there the the Mexican people are delightful the culture and it's just a great place I loved it and I'm drawn back I'm going to go back in December for a retreat with Ricky and Laverne and ktv and going to the coast this time to just north of the port of Iarta and and soak up some silence by the ocean and that should be delightfully healing I think and then who knows from there I've only I've only booked a one-way ticket I think you know there's lots of mighty companions I'd love to visit with in Mexico and I don't know what Holy Spirit's got in mind I've been invited to go to Spain with Amanda and Micah and so I'm getting my passport renewed I'm going to be moving about I do believe so for me just quickly I started being of service and and and work with Wesley and Angie on the Unwind Your Mind book that you've written that's just so wow very profound and we're working through that in a group and I facilitate that but I gotta say since I started doing service it kind of seems like everything that could happen physically has just happened you know all kinds of like quick and trying to get my attention kind of things you know and so I'm on this healing journey right now of of acceptance and and the mind training becomes so important when I'm in physical pain and and I and I've been guided to just I need to sit and watch pain with Jesus and and and and allow my mind to be healed the thoughts about it and showed me some remarkable things you know the Course tells us that we're here because we want to be separate and special and intellectually I got that but you know consciously I'm not aware of that I think I want to be one and I want to be not special but Jesus showed me that's not true deep down and I was a little shocked to see that I really do want to be special and I and I don't want to be one on this deep level and and it was just it's been rather disturbing for me to realize that that's still that's there and it's deep and and Jesus is leading me very gently in in how to heal that and and to accept the Atonement hmm everybody you know Lisa fair you know when Jason had me come to mystery school and you 17 years I was like why am I going to Utah the little boys that just go to Utah and I've been you know David I and I told you this before I bring you so many messages you know listen to your your lectures all day long my mind is that's what my kind of time you you put this into the language that I can hear I truly it's no accident that that you connected with cat myself we're both 12-stepers whole thing back in 1990 with something you know the 12 steps of alcohol and synonymous you know truly this is sort of what I call like the 12 steps of steroids you know what can't what I heard cats saying this is the same thing that's happening in my terrible I'm just a piece you know it's kind of like a great deal of pain too mine's mine's not physical mine's emotional what I'm hearing is you know because I'm a 12-steper you know I I want you know get back to basics keep it real simple trust and only I'm I'm noticing you know oh keep it real simple I'm noticing my heart's open you know when I met you guys you know five seven and a half years I said you know that guy's angry yeah and that's what I'm going to use your I get the contrast experience you know what it was like what happened so I the last five and a half years David I've been all over the map the place it didn't make any sense but um you know when I listen to you I learn I can trust it it's hard to make sense now you know this I just said here's go make this person go make this yes well we're getting up with a little bit of technical difficulties but we could hear like 80 percent 85 percent of what you're there and we could see it all over your face we could see it in your eyes and see it expressed more importantly than the words but well maybe we could see see it maybe if Kenneth if you just mute mute your mic I think there was a little feedback too when I was talking so I'll just share a little bit well I have to say too that yeah these blessed souls have been so touching on my soul because I've been able to watch them open up and and hang in there with her persistence through the healing of a lot of dark issues anger issues and that's really what the course is about going through the darkness to the light and I'd love that Jesus gives it to us straight he doesn't try to as he says he doesn't try to put this lipstick on a skeleton rosy lips on the skeleton you know he he's pretty direct with us all and we need that and I know when Kenneth first came to our mystery school in here at the monastery in Utah where I am that was quite amazing because you had such resolve to hang in there with such intense emotions coming up and and I know Kenneth shared with me that about having been raised Christian and really when he he kind of came out to his family and to the Christian community as as being gay it was like a slam an emotional psychological slam so to come here that was perfectly orchestrated because I know at the beginning of the the whole mystery school Lisa gave like the big welcome welcome talk and and pep talk and and she probably in the course of an hour and a half used the name Jesus probably about 40 50 times and Kenneth have come through such an emotional struggle with that that was so intense and you just hung in there and really looked at all your reactions and looked at those emotions and it's been a a pretty long journey and now Kenneth's gone horizontal office here don't you love technology we're we're doing our best with it all so and and with cat yeah my gosh I remember you came out to a renovatio maybe it was like a six-day movie retreat here at the monastery and that was a pretty pretty big step because it's kind of rustic out here and you know most people are are used to like couches and city living and so forth so that was a big step and then I do remember though you the people that you met and the people that talk to me they still say we're like we're continuing on we're going to be the renovatio bunch we we like to stay in touch and there's such deep connections that were forced and then after the retreat you went on and you basically went through some to visit some people that are part of your biological family and there were like so you did leave the monastery and you you took that into a pilgrimage almost like an emotional healing pilgrimage I did I had a lot of doubts going you know I felt guided to do that I knew there had there were these deep healings that needed to happen because there were you know not speaking with my younger brother really and an ex-husband new wife situation living on some property that we all kind of own it was a very strange situation and a lot of drama and I just I took Holy Spirit and I went there and deep healing happened I beautiful beautiful healing with my younger brother he's we're we're both in 12 steps and and so we could talk about God and he knew what I was doing when I when I went there to to heal the relationship 12 steps we make amends and it's very similar sort of thing and and the relation that the that's been much better it was so deep and and the healing with the ex-husband was more difficult I was there was a lot more fear involved with that but it was just a beautiful healing I I had to I messaged messagered you at one of the low points I was just like I don't know what to do to help me I can't find any peace and and you were just very simple and and and helped and and and the Holy Spirit came in and I was able to heal that relationship and there was a beautiful coming together between myself and this ex-wife and and I hope that it has healed the whole drama there's this giant drama still in the family but I'm just not swaddling around in it anymore and it feels really good yeah I want to tell you though real quick what I I was at the monastery and and it's just such a healing beautiful place and I went to the airport to rent a car to go drive around do all these things and I kind of felt like I was when you first get out of treatment if anybody knows about that you you're in this safe environment and then you go out into the world and it was like there was all of this fear everywhere billboards on the radio it was just fear fear fear fear fear and I was just like felt like I was like oh what in the world I had to go back and re-get stay with the spirit because it was like felt like bombarded with the world and it's so nice to have a place to go inside to escape that yeah yeah I just wanted to share that sorry keep rocking yeah and Kenneth you know you you you're a carpenter you actually are a very very good carpenter and I was just on a ride yesterday with Jason and Kirsten and we were driving along in beautiful canyons and and we're like well we actually we need a carpenter right now who do we know that we could pay to come down and help us who's a carpenter so if you're flying back to Portland you have a little bit of time between now and when we come there you might consider that but share a little bit about about your journey you you've actually don't made beautiful chairs outdoor wood chairs very solid gorgeous chairs and you've just donated them to the monastery for people to to sit in while they're here to sit in to be in to meditate and that's just been one of your many gifts that you have offered but but tell us a little bit about how things have evolved for you more in in we'll say in recent years where you're just maybe we'll talk a little bit about Dale we have a mutual friend who is in prison in Ohio he's in prison for murder but he he came on one of he wrote me a letter with red ink and I I spoke about it I think the video is called his escape to freedom or something like that on YouTube and I was reading the letter and we all were doing a retreat and I had tears everybody had tears and then you among others started to to writing to Dale and then Dale wrote you a hundred or more emails back and now you've compiled them into a like a pdf file into a publication because it's touched you so much he's become a mentor he's he's really opening his mind up and he's become a mentor for you so maybe you can share a little bit about that they David I mean this this full of the synchronicities because um you know I was having a real hard time for giving myself stephers and she was talking about the immense process and um the people who I used to mom and dad they've been gone since 2004 and 2006 I you know I need a steroid I need a steroid injection you know well it's the perfect spirit so no problem they'll they'll crow and and you know if this man can forgive himself you know leave his and he's been guiding me through it here's how to unbelieve the dream character and it's been a hundred you know email exchanges back and forth and we're we're we're loving each other after this you know this and so you know yeah I remember it was a you said his typewriter was they told him in reading um yeah all that I just one more example of the scene you know when it comes to the carpentry and things um I've always been I've never really and I've always asked myself well I've got all these you know you know skills what are they for and you know when it comes time to it and and what I've noticed is that when it's it's not about the the trade if you even be in the flow itself I know it looks like a lot of musicians you say you know musicians go into the flow that's when the Holy Spirit comes through that's and that's that's where the furniture came from you know it was it was all channel channel that's that's not art what's beautiful channeled art carpentry I love it and of course Jesus was a carpenter and then he got into the flow and whoa there's a lot of amazing things Jesus miracles miracles miracles healing the sick raising the dead but he started out in carpentry so you you've come from a good lineage again well let's take a moment because yeah both of you have have really rolled out the red carpet and invited Svava and I to come up it's going to be October 18th uh in the evening and uh we'll fly up there and maybe see some sites and I'll get my siesta in and we'll be ready to go with her music and singing and whatever's gonna come through me but uh maybe you can go cat and then Kenneth you can what does this mean for you I know I used to go to Portland a lot because I traveled many times around the United States and I remember there was an elderly woman Judy and her daughter that had a miracle center they're probably back in in the early 2000s I believe I was going up there uh or either late 1990s early 2000s and and then I've been through there many times uh just because it's been a rich a rich city of of spiritual opening and I and I'd love just going where I'm really invited and welcome so yeah maybe cat you just share and then Kenneth can share just what what this feels like for you because this is a recent unfolding for us you know we it's we just started talking about this online and here it goes it's it's happening yeah it just took off I I was yeah I contacted you about uh a little miracle there are no little miracles I contacted you about a miracle I wanted to share it and and it just blossomed out of that I you know I had this idea that you know because you're you're going to see a friend of mine that I met at Renovato Ruth Davis you're gonna be in at her house doing a retreat a three-day retreat I I guess yeah and she and I and so I got the idea well we should do Portland you know let's do the whole west coast you know got you in here in LA and in San Francisco and let's do Portland and who knows we won't get Washington in here somehow I don't know but it's yeah it just kind of once we said yes it's going and we haven't firmly set a venue yet but that's you know we're just kind of waiting for Kenneth to get back from I he can and we can really collaborate a little more closely and but yeah it's it's gonna be just beautiful I I I look forward to it I'm very excited Kenneth shows the excitement a little more than I do but it's there I'm like well this is gonna be so good and and I put it out there just like a chat remark on a couple of your videos one guy said blessings from Portland Oregon and I went well hey you know and so the excitement was there already the people online are already getting the word and and Kenneth tells me he's a graphic designer and between your people I think this is gonna be well publicized and a beautiful experience you're gonna love Portland and Kenneth how's this all feel for you this is very new unfoldment but it's it's beautiful well um so operating systems that the ego's voice and the spirit's voice like I I that's beautiful that's beautiful were we are looking forward to this I remember it wasn't too long ago Kenneth you reached out to Svava and and you had a beautiful online joining then because you have so many people that you touch and that you're in touch with that are all going through this healing together and you have such a big heart and you were just joining to share the healing share what helped you what blessed you very transparently you know and that's that's a small thing to relax enough and trust enough to be transparent transparent so well I don't want to thank you too much because I know I just invite people to come along if they want to come uh on October 18th in the evening if you're helping to be in the Pacific Northwest drop in and join in the fun and uh cat I know you've got an unwind your mind group going online coming up soon so we don't want to keep you from your your function your joy my joy yes so many blessings thank you so much and it's really been an honor I hope uh this reaches the people that a lot of 12 steppers who are in the chorus go on whoa this is this is like riding a bronco but both of you can say yeah stay on the bronco uh it's worth it is very good that's it okay thank you both god bless thank you