 This is Washington Brady for Whale Law Media and I'm talking to Catherine who attended the Reclaim St Kilda Rally in Melbourne on Saturday. How are you? I'm very well thank you. Excellent well thanks for talking to us. Now first off we live in a time when journalists feel entitled to decide what other people's views really are but I'd rather get you to say for yourself. So let's be blunt here are you a nuts? Uh no my family sir. Uh do you think you're a racist? What drew you to Saturday's rally? Describe to us like what you witnessed at the rally. I mean we've all seen what's on the papers and on the telly but what did you actually see? There was a significant number of Asian Australians and they were definitely with the reclaim that unedited YouTube videos of the speeches by Blair Cottrell and I think the other one was Neil Erickson. Now what they were saying a lot of it was definitely anti-immigration and you can agree with that or disagree with that. I didn't in their speeches I didn't notice and did you see or hear anything overtly racist on the day? Did you see anyone making Nazi salutes or carrying swastikas or seeing I think actually the police did an unusually good job. I mean that's that's why things like Charlottesville got so violent was because the police let the groups mingle they didn't intervene and break things up um whereas yeah I must say Victoria police seemed to do a very good job. Organisers said they want to hold more rallies. If there are are you likely to go? So there you have it what's reported in the mainstream media seems very much at odds with the experience of people on the ground and I'd like to thank Catherine for talking to us for Whale Oil Media this is Washington Breedy.