 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews So in this episode of Mind Pump, we talk about my church experience. Were they trying to expel the demons out of me? Yeah, were they successful? Was he sweating like a whore? Hashtag team Jesus. We talk about the Winter Olympics Sean White what a badass crushing everything the best and there was another French I think figure dancer and the skater in the Little booby they will not do so well on health IQ because of the dangerous That's right. How their sports are very risky. We are sponsored by health IQ It is life insurance for fit people go to health IQ com forward slash mind pump take their fitness quiz To see what your prices are. Then we talk about Russia's troll factory. What? Yeah, they're pumping out trolls like crazy We talk about WikiLeaks Flatulence and how it led it led to a flight being grounded literally somebody farted so bad That guy must have just been ripping him a plastic a plane had to make an emergency landing Then we talk about our LA pornhouse And our mine pump travel diet and our travel staple Organifi green juice look we are sponsored by Organifi that's why we bring it some of the most qualified some of the most quality excuse me best quality supplements You'll find if it comes in handy organifi shop comm You can get a discount if you enter the code Mine pump and then Adam also mentioned brain dot FM brain dot FM has these beats that you listen to that put you in different states of mind Sleep or meditation or focus. That's actually one of my favorite ones for all my people that need help with sleep get this You go to brain FM forward slash mine pump you get 20% off then we get into the questions The first question was this particular individual's roommate is having trouble with sleep Should you just suffocate him with your pillow? It's that's that's what we suggest the next question. What are the health benefits of a high carb? Diet sounds crazy, but it might actually be good for you sometimes The next question was does it take longer for someone to lose weight? If they've been overweight for a long period of time versus somebody who just gained weight in the last couple years to lose weight like is there a difference in their bodies and what is the difference and also is there a difference? Psychologically and what is that difference and how do you tackle that issue? 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You made a big old deal about it I'm in a big old. Yeah You didn't burn up in flames shame on me I did feel I can't believe I didn't bring that up So I told the boys I said man. I got this I I know I wrote down something I wanted to for sure bring up the minute we got in the room together And it totally slipped my mind and that is exactly what I wanted, you know It was funny. How dare we not we've been having all this talk and I had no idea but you fuckers are getting messages from people Yes We're like oh, they're so excited to get me to convert me or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. What are they doing? They're just telling you like bring this person on this person be a good person well after the after the you know hashtag team Jesus thing that we did or said I Did feel like heat while I was in there Things start to start to heat up. No, I went I went so it's my kids Catholic school It's that it's you know, there's a church there so You know Jessica wanted to go so we went because it is interesting. It is interesting. She's never been a part of any of These things so it's fascinating to even go with someone who's never been yeah to or at least minimally been to church Tough one to go to for your first one Catholic. Yeah. Well depends. It depends on how you're looking at it now We're going into it not necessarily looking to You know worship God or become you know Catholics or Christians. That's not really the goal. We're going in there just to go in there See the energy and not spy But just a just as I mean because Catholic Church is very and I know I went as a kid right very ritualistic There's so many different rituals and things you got to do It's there's a lot of this is why I'm saying it's a tough one to do there But it can make it easy because if you're into looking for those things You're someone who's on borderline like you know atheist I think going in there and going to a Catholic Church would be a far more challenging because you're gonna see the things that make you that you Think are very dogmatic or it depends how you view them So if I'm going in there like yeah, this is all you know, then yeah That's what used to happen to me But now that I'm going in and I'm trying to look deeper Into the ritual of things like why do people all put their hands like this at a certain point? Why do people reply this way? Why do Just like that time when Paul check did his thing over the food where it kind of looked like he prayed and I rather than Thinking like that's stupid. I examined it and realized that if we were all mindful before we ate whether you pray or not You're more likely to be healthy. I went in there and I'm looking at things differently and so is she and so it was really fascinating But you know I forget about Catholic Church Like for sure the Catholic Church is superior to other churches in one aspect for sure I can make this claim the neat So much neat You know, it's a great discussion to listen to and I went down the rabbit hole I think was it off Jordan Peterson originally and then I started getting it listening to a lot of Sam Harris stuff and Sam Harris did an interview with like the number one or the largest Church congregation the pastor of that ride that church or the Pope or it wasn't the Pope excuse me Yeah, I know he it was But this guy was like well well known and one of the biggest churches and you know those that don't know Sam Harris is like a Profound like atheist, right? He's super. Yeah, and very very intelligent. Yeah, and yeah, so great debater But a great they had a great conversation So I tell tell everybody like that's like loves that type of stuff like in hearing it from from two different perspectives and and guys Articulating it very well and having a very healthy discussion. I like that. I like that stuff I think it's funny that it's taboo. Yeah, we can't talk about those things. Oh, that's why I think yeah Revisiting this kind of stuff and that's that's really like the motive It's like let's why can't we talk about certain thing like you can't you can't like avoid all these massive subjects Like let's just like dive into it see what comes out fear of speaking is one of the most dangerous things So what was it like dude? So tell me yeah, it was cool We went in that we went early we went to 8 a.m. So it was a bunch of old like a lot of old people the priest comes out and the priest isn't you know comes around and he knows Who's new? Even though it's a big church, so he comes in everybody he comes out to us And he's like oh, thank you. You know, I know it's your first time coming welcome And so we're like, okay, thank you and then other people will kind of like eyeballing us a little bit because we're new And it was cool. It was interesting, you know, you're just paying attention. I'm paying attention How many peace be with these did you get there's a lot of those Peace be with you and also with you, you know and all that and you know Saying the Lord tell me about the message. What was the message that they gave that day? We it was lent because lent started so You know, you know how the story goes Jesus went into the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights and was tempted by You know Satan and came out of it and wasn't didn't succumb to temptation And so lent is supposed to be you're supposed to give up something for that So they talked about sacrifice, but it's fascinating because I have a completely different understanding of sacrifice now Oh, absolutely now that I've been a guy who's pro a fasting every month now Well now that when you think about that and then you hear things like that, don't you find that fast? Well, so here's a thing. I've always believed in it just didn't understand it in other words. I've always believed in hard work I've always believed in You know not doing what's expedient because you're going to it's gonna benefit you later on, you know I've always been that way. I've always been responsible, right? That's what we used to say, right? You're responsible but now I understand Even deeper and you know, Jordan Peterson talks about that story of Jesus going into the because he talks about the Bible not because not from a I'm a Christian standpoint, but rather what do these stories actually mean and the way he breaks it down is how Really, it's about we all have that good and bad in us, right? The the the line between good and evil runs in everybody's heart is the statement, right? And that we're all capable of doing evil and we're all capable of doing good And what makes this human is knowing that we can make that choice and many times what's bad or evil is what's expedient easy It's immediate. It's pleasure and what's good is hard, but it leads to something better Later on and so he talks about that story how Jesus went out there and was basically You know a lot of the stuff he says right like man cannot live on bread alone In other words, what does that mean because that's something that you know when when Satan comes to Jesus and tells him Why don't you just turn these rocks into bread and eat them and he says that's that line Which is a very, you know, very famous apparently or widely used thing that Jesus says yeah, and what it basically means is Food means nothing to you if you have a corrupt soul and what that made me think about is In my in terms of what we do and in modern life because very rarely are we without food, right? But the way I applied to us is like You know money is worth nothing if you have corrupted yourself and you haven't been true to yourself And you haven't and I think of it that way like if I lie cheat steal and become the shitty person in order to get rich And get all this money. I will be miserable. I will be it will be not only will not be worth an empty existence It'll be that's how that's what it took for you to get there It's right and you see examples of that all time with celebrities and people who seem to have everything and yet they dive of drug overdose So they commit suicide, you know, that's the evidence of that just that incredible wisdom. So whether you're religious or not It's very very true. So that's what they talked about and for lent we Again, not because I'm you know, I hate having to preface. It really doesn't matter if I'm Catholic or not I'm not but We did all Give something up for 40 days because I do believe it's a it's a good practice to do that So my kids gave something up. I gave something up and Jessica gave something up for lamp So I gave up my phone now stays Plugged in on in the kitchen. You can't go with me anywhere else in the house So I no longer am on my phone now. I need to work. I go to it So I want to talk about when you went in there Did you feel that you had to have a conversation with yourself about okay? I'm gonna go in with an open mind or did you catch yourself having tendencies of like seeing something like oh And like feeling like you had to eye roll or what did you know? No that I used to When I used to go to church because I was you know, because it was a holiday. It was Easter It was a baptism or a wedding. I'd sit there and just be like, oh, you know I hate it like look at these sheep and they're all hypocrites and this is all bullshit ritual And this is what I said, you know think I had no respect for it whatsoever. In fact, I thought it was I Thought there was more bad than good that came from it Which is a common belief a lot of people have that because it had so much power for so long it doesn't have as much power nowadays, but It had you know, the 20th century was it was the century of Governments killing everybody but before that it was religion and I I viewed it that way But really understanding now that it's lasted this long because it is powerful and it has done a lot of good for a lot of people I know people personally what's done good for and I do see how culturally it's extremely important and scientists will tell you that the Concept of an afterlife the concept of a God probably happens simultaneously with the concept of a Future and a past so in other words it was a breaking point for human consciousness So it's just a part of it has been a part of of recorded history for as long as we can go back So I realized just how important and powerful it is and like anything that's important and powerful People with bad intentions could get their hands on it and can turn it into something bad our corrupts And people with who are you know good can use it for good So so I went in there with that with that all so that was my experience and what will we be going back? Probably I think I'm gonna go back again We are I am reading and watching and learning more in-depth about I'm starting with Quick Christianity and then I'll start learning about the other religions because What I'm starting to realize and it's it's it's funny that I'm realizing it now because it's obvious when you think about it But if you want to learn about human culture and existence and behavior especially from the past till now There's almost nothing better than studying You know texts that have been used by humans for Thousands of years and even before that they were barred upon texts that were very similar So I'm gonna I want to try learning about all these things because I think you can learn so much about people You know like Buddhism and you know Islam and all you know, you know Judaism all these different religions that it's very fascinating So but we'll see we'll see what happens what a just think or she would you guys do you guys we're both in the same space Yeah, we're both really into learning about all this stuff right now So so I don't know how long it'll last of what that'll turn into I don't think I'll become a You know evangelical Christian, but I never say never who knows what I'm who knows. I might see something Guys, you know what happened yesterday sounds like a bit. I want to change the podcast direction completely And then all the other thing just kidding here's the other thing I want to tell you guys so I come home and Jessica surprised me with an entire Encyclopedia Britannica set from the from 1951 From night. No, it's a dork. Hold on a second. Hold on a second Is it the same one you used like no no no no the one I had was from 80 the one I used to read was 1986 so this was 1951 and Am I gonna read these probably not maybe I'll look into them cuz I want to see how much information's changed But they're so decorative like we have them We have them in a bookshelf having those I had a set. Yeah, I just like the way they look I'm probably having a look in them right we have the internet, but they look so cool Yeah, and she's like nostalgia, bro. I told her I'm like these are collectors I'm like where I thought they were worth a lot of money. She got the whole set for 40 bucks She's like on Craigslist you could buy as many so you had it also Justin Mm-hmm. So did you have world book and childcraft? Yeah, so that's what when this guy always talks about reading and Cyclopedias when he's little that's what he's talking about. I'm like, oh shit I didn't know that's what you were talking about all these times Well, I just thought you may you opened up the encyclopedia and you started reading it where child the childcraft style of it was different It was written into like stories to kids. Well, that's what I did when I was little and then as I got older Yeah, well, I was like when I was like 13 14. Yeah when I was 13 14 I was reading at cyclopedia Britannica with a really thin paper. Yeah Yeah, I was really into it because yeah You get all the definitions and you get like pictures and everything else to kind of help to describe the whole thing So that really it helps me learn if I have visual alongside No, the first ones I read were my mom bought me What do you think has been replaced now like what do you guys do for your kids? Like that because that was something that was staple at our house. It's YouTube now. Yeah, that's like it's YouTube now So my so so what I started reading was Snoopy's encyclopedia Which was a small one when I was a little kid and then I went to what you're talking about where it's more for kids Yeah, and then I started reading encyclopedia Britannica and read page-to-page. I would go or cover-to-cover I would go through and if I saw a subject I was interested and I would read about it But no mice my kids will get on YouTube sometimes and they'll go on the Ted Talks they have Ted for kids and They'll just I mean literally sit there for two or three hours watching these 15 to 30 minute Videos on I'm like sharks and all that I'm so interested in the future of Ted Talks like I just feel like they're they're building this library library of freaking amazing Fucking it information that people are great. Oh, dude. It's kidding. I mean almost every time I searched something now It's one of the one of the top three Well, I just like that they get to the meat of it and it's not a whole lot of fluff You know like they're condensed to this short amount of time So they really have to prepare ahead of time about like what information they're gonna convey and it's great man Because as a consumer, it's like okay like you get a great understanding a short amount of time Dude, it's funny because we had that a few episodes ago We talked about school voucher system and there's a couple teachers in our forum and they were like a little upset like no It's terrible and you know, I know the school system and you know, we were debating back and forth It was a good discussion actually really appreciated it if you're listening right now I really appreciate it if you disagree and we have a good discussion. I like that but a Point that I made which I think is for sure is it I don't think I think the way we do education now You know publicly funded whatever doesn't even fucking matter You can try doing whatever you want the the way information is being shared now If you can throw it's all gonna be yeah all accessible 20 years from now It ain't gonna look like that at all. Can you not see well, I could see if you're in it how you don't see that I could see if you can control it. Yeah, good. You can't control it now like the right now right now if I wanted to Literally I could access lectures from Harvard Stanford wherever I could watch, you know Shows or stuff on surgery, you know on You know anatomy on medicine if I really had the motivation and the passion for it I could learn everything Private university student would learn I could learn learn how to replace your transmission in your van You know like yourself just by watching it's crazy Everything and as the cost of school keeps going up and gets crazier and crazier This is just gonna outcompete it cuz it's free and it's right and you see we just talked about What's his face Warren Buffett's company and and who was it was it? Apple or Google or part enough to start their university. It's already happening. Yeah, it's already happening It's it's inevitable. It's going that direction. I thought we were just kind of exploring the idea the voucher Yeah, that's what it was but even that like at that point that won't even matter. No because it'll be so cheap and so free Yeah, it's not even that I'll flip it on it said no matter what so you guys ready for some for the daily pump Daily pump all right Justin did you say you had some news first or you want me to go first? Yeah, cuz I got I do have some basically what I found was this guy in India he had came up with this brilliant idea this farmer to put a massive poster of a porn star in his field To keep his crop safe Yeah, like so back up hold on There's mysticism in India, right? There's like they have a lot of superstitions and things like you don't want to go in your nude photo photo like that Well, it's more like negative eyes like it. So he thought that like by bringing like this porn star like this But it bring a lot of positive, you know energy to his crops and so apparently it's worked in his Yeah I don't know like everybody's walking by and it's it's this girl is porn star with a bikini like a red bikini on it It's just like, you know, you people just walk by and like look at it all fun I feel like he lied to his wife in India in India. He lied to his wife His wife's like, you know, like why are you always taking off? She's like there's a night out into the field She's like good deep you're jerking off all the time. No, it's for the freaking listen. I'm warding off the demons Okay. Yeah, it's for the ruck crops. Keep making the roti bread. I'll be right back I have to go for my sprouts are growing huge. I have to go for life. Oh shit. There's a picture right there That's awesome. Yeah, well, hey, I can't I can't I can't you can't exactly like the logic behind it I sound veiled vegetation growing Are you guys watching the Olympics at all? Yeah, I watched the all-star game that was on last night But I don't my son. Oh, this is great. My son is so in a snowboarding now because of the Olympics Oh, Shawn. Yeah, he wants to be Shawn White. So so Shawn white in it again. Is he destroying it? He got a gold. Yeah, is he like one of the greatest Olympians of all time or is it just for that? He's got to be out there with gold medals because I mean shit. He got into it when he was like 17 yeah, maybe I know what's his name is Michael Phelps one more gold medals than anybody He's ridiculous, right? He's but I wonder where Shawn. Why is gonna break cuz I know Shawn White has destroyed He might be up there actually. Yeah, I mean Shawn White's been getting him for a hot minute, dude No, interesting. He doesn't get one. It's like what and he started his little skateboarder. Remember? Yeah, he's right out. He's right around the Tony Hawk generation and he's been he's been right He's and then he transitioned into snowboarding afterwards I wonder you know what this makes me think now when you're doing those kind of Extreme of Doug is do those extreme events when you're doing your health your life insurance because we're sponsored by Health IQ Make me think of this life insurance is more expensive Oh, bro, if you are a pro snowboarder or a pro like skateboarder hundred percent you oh Had somebody DM me that remember the cigarette thing I said the other day Yeah, so someone DM me and actually ran the ran what it was like if you were somebody who was smoking and what it was Double the amount of course, right? Yeah, yeah High-risk activity. They may rate your policy or increase your rates. Wow. I have a lot I know snowboarding is typically not one of the questions, you know, it's like do you hang a lie? Do you pair so the specific ones there? Yeah, there's a specific one So technically on the application if you're a professional snowboarder, you could answer no to the high-risk question Well, you know, well health IQ they got there you go. Look at that. Sean white. You can get health IQ They're for fit people life insurance for fit people. So the Olympics. Let's get back to that, right? So French ice dancer Gabriela Papadakis, she sounds like she sounds like she's Greek Papadakis. Yeah, Papadakis. That's Greek That's not French. Anyway, she's French and she had a nightmare wardrobe malfunction During her routine like on live TV while she's dancing with her partner her Her dance figure skating outfit or whatever the clasp broke and she was Boo boo be out a Janet Jackson But she's Janet Jackson, but it's live TV because it's live, right? Mm-hmm, and she had to finish the dance. So she's still doing this a champion. Yeah cold nipple and everything cuz it's on the ice So so probably sure everybody stood up and roaring applause. I'm really mad. I didn't see this I wonder how she did interesting. Yeah, God, you know talk about the focus you have to have when you're at that level Yeah, you know, I mean every four years I always feel bad because when they do one of those like crazy huge triple axel things and then they eat shit And then they got to get up and do the entire especially they do early and they have to finish their entire routine You're just like what would you do? You're not gonna get so here's it. So here's the thing. This is a little sexism, right? Let's talk about this for a second Totally would they have done the same thing if the guides dick came out? I mean When it got to commercial Like Boop Boop comes out they're like Sponsored by you can't I don't know. I don't know if you're allowed to compare boob to dick though Yeah, I think you know what you can only make the boob vagina. Yeah, yeah, right like boob vagina I mean vagina penis connection, but you can't make the which ones were more like but yeah Which ones worse vagina wardrobe malfunction or or dick wardrobe malfunction dick cuz there's something hanging out The vagina is pretty Exactly Hitting your partner helicopter anyway, so that that happened that would be bad. So there's a there's something to watch the Olympic Do you know the skeleton if you guys seen the skeleton? No, it's like the the it's like losing like the bobsled But it's like it's a one man You basically have this tiny ass little sled that you lay on You not only you don't lay backwards you go ahead face first It looks like a fucking like a neck injury and you go hella fast I literally like if you make one wrong decision, you're dead. You're dead. Why do they call it the skeleton? I probably What are the okay? I would love to look and see how many people that Are in the Olympics that actually go on to do big things or how many of them end up broke and no one ever heard Who they were well like what are the numbers on so I feel like it's there's not a lot if you win a gold Right. Yeah, if you win gold in a popular event Then your odds of doing really like if you're gold metal like look like a model Yeah, well, yeah, there's some of those but if you're golden like the first so to think if you're gold in a sport That's also professional very good because you got a lot of commercial appeal if you're gold in a popular sport like figure skating So if you're a gold medalist in figure skating, that's a popular sport Yeah, well for winter Olympics is one of the most popular Oh, I mean, oh, so you can I'm thinking popular in general like you're around well So what's popular about it is when you're a figure skater gold medalist you tend to be One of the athletes that is that everybody, you know, that's displayed for the winter Olympics And then you do these tours you see these like, you know Olympians on the ice or whatever and you do lots of interviews and because people really like that like if you're First, you know gold medalist in you know, I don't know. What's what's an obscure winter sport curling curling Well, you'll make money in Canada if you're a gold medalist I think that's the second most popular sport in Canada. If I'm not mistaken. Is it really? Yeah curling is really popular Just threw that out of nowhere. Yeah That was a great curveball for you, but you but you know what's that? What's the one where they they ski they shoot and they it's like a cross-country ski shoot. Yes I saw my I got the gold medal and ski shooting I so I think if it's not a popular sport like if you're a gold medalist and like I don't know Taekwondo or something, you know in the summer Olympics You're not going to be on national TV or anything, but even then like okay So what national TV that gives you all this exposure and you go on tour and so you sell out some tickets And so you make a million dollars your next year, but then what you can become one of the most sought-after coaches You could you could be coming that's the move You can get a turn into coaches get sponsored our own gym or whatever Yeah, you can get sponsored by supplement companies or do you know what do you even had an idea with them? Was that like half of them but think of some of them think of some of the highest paid ones like Michael Phelps made a shit Ton of money. Well, okay, that's a very cute Mary Lou Retton made a shit ton of money Remember her she was on the cover of Wheaties and all that stuff Yeah, she wasn't the one that cut off the subway right for the marathon race Remember that one. Oh, you remember that happen. Oh, do you remember that was like in the block when was that? I want to say that was in the 80s or was it before no it might have been before the 80s even that's all one of those old ESPN classics where the the marathon runner that set the world the set the world record like they found out like years Oh took the subway. Yeah, she took the subway. Oh You didn't know that's no, it's hilarious. Oh, yeah, I gotta look it up now So I'm sure one of our four members will know that's into sports I've heard of people doing that. Yeah, they hide and then they wait and then they just like yeah Yeah, hopped on the hopped on the if you could be a gold medalist in any event in the Olympics What would it be like winter or summer doesn't matter Any event like what would you want to be gold medal in? Well basketball, dude Well now this doesn't mean you're gonna be in the NBA and all that so forget all that just imagine You just get a metal like a solo thing like just a metal. Yeah, what would you want to boxing snowboarding is pretty dope No, we're gonna have pipe would be pretty. I know what you're thinking Adam. You're thinking which gold medal is worth the most Attention I know you broke let me put it this way. I bet the look at what instrument did you think about playing when you were a kid? The only reason why you picked that chicks dig it. Yeah, this is the coolest one You gotta think I thought it was such a good idea to back there when you're kids Yeah, how many things did you think were such a good idea? Just always playing careless whisper I Remember you want to talk about bad ideas. I watched a movie called the Bronx tail Do you guys remember that great movie great movie, right? And there's the there's the test that that guy does where you get out of the car and you Walk around the other side to open the door for your girl But you see if she unlocks the door for you Yeah, or not and I tried doing that But I forgot my car, you know by this point cars are automatic so all the locks open so I'd walked around I was like, oh, yeah That was stupid didn't work out. That's what I did. That was done More news. So you guys heard about the all the news about the investigation into Russia Meddling in our election. Remember that you guys hear about that. That's never died Well, they were trying to say there was collusion between Trump and the Russians and In which is so big conspiracy fucking stupid because Like Russia, right old Russia. It's it's our Cold War enemies. And so it just sounds so scary Well, what they found actually was They did find that Russia tried to Fuck with the election, but it wasn't In support of anybody. They don't give a fuck who wins. They're just they had a bunch of trolls They had 13 of them who got indicted 13 trolls who got indicted for posting articles and stuff on social media trying to You know make Americans lose their their their Trust or whatever in the process the electoral process, which hate to break this to you It's already going away. We don't need Russia to whatever. How funny is that though? So there's a troll factory apparently in Russia and that's what they do They hire in St. Petersburg. They hire these booming business And they pay them a lot of money and their goal is to go on social media and stir up some shit Wow But you know what though? Is this surprising? No, it's not surprising. You don't think we do the same shit Tactic of course we do the same thing. Yeah, I guarantee you we have a whole room of kids doing that shit for every other country Is Julian the son still over there and Julian Julian Julian Julian Julian. He's uh, no, he's where is he? I forgot where he's at. No, he's not in Russia anymore. Okay. Yeah, I just I remember that they had that as they're trying to tie him into the whole You know with the wiki leaks and everything else going on no electrons no no no actually what's funny about that So wiki leaks, which is crazy, right? They they provide they they leak out some crazy hacked information They are non-partisan. I mean they were doing stuff with Bush They were revealing a shit ton of stuff with Bush and then Obama and that and then they were doing it with the Democratic National Convention how Hillary's campaign undermined Bernie Sanders and all this other stuff and all his email leaks right didn't some guy get whacked Well, nobody knows Yeah, sorry anyway, so I'm scared dude of these people so okay so what they what they What they were trying to say is somebody was like why aren't you releasing stuff on Trump and he tweeted out This is Julian Assange treat tweet it out. I would if I could find anything on them trust me. I've tried. There's nothing What? Crazy, right? So he's like I can't find anything on Trump that we can leak or whatever So believe believe that or not. I mean if either he's telling the truth, or he's Helping I don't trust anybody. I know he's got dirt Crazy all right one more one more piece of news for them. You always come with a but what are you reading right now? I just I just don't forget shit. I check this out. This is now. This is an important piece of news. This is This might take a long time to discuss So this happened recently a Flight from Dubai to Amsterdam. This is recent had to make an emergency landing in Vienna After a fight broke out so big fight on the plane, right? Everybody's getting pissed off and thrown fists because One of the passengers would not stop farting Apparently of February 11th Two men sitting next to a very flatulent man Got really pissed off apparently this guy just was farting terribly. Wow. That's a that's a pretty long flight Right Dubai to Amsterdam like the whole time Yeah, I might whoops someone's ass. Yeah, so and they were like what's your limit five? Yeah, they kept telling me How many sounds like a motorbike, you know the whole time is Apparently they were telling like stop fucking farting and the dude just like And so they got in a fight dude on the plane Could you imagine everybody on the plane that was I'll get pissed too rooting for the guy who was punching him right for sure Well, I mean here's the thing like you get your ass kicked back in is that embarrassing or is that cool? Like if you someone's like dude, why'd you get jumped you're like I was farting. Well, you know it dropping bombs. You know if it got that serious that it was probably where he's probably sick Well, no I would guess that it was some guy probably said something and then it's some some other guy Who's going to be have a chip on his shoulder and be like oh now I'm going to intentionally keep farting and then he probably made it Yeah, yeah, he probably made a mission to fart as much as he could probably Cuz that's it. That's it use the blanket like how can you keep farting like he must have had that technique or you could suck it in You know what I mean, and then like blast it back out. There's a technique. There is dude Swear to God. I saw him throw my brother in the bus, but he had a master dude He can fart whenever you want suck it in and it makes almost as much noise as it does hold on a second Yeah, I know people could do this He can draw in air to his butthole and this was the most funny like the most funny thing He would kill me if he heard this but he would use those powers and we had like a little trumpet that was on on It was on the the table, you know in the living room and it was just for decoration He would grab it every now and then suck it and he'd blast it out We would die laughing right and then this neighbor in the trumpet Yeah, he'd fart in the trumpet and make noise Do you know how much like when do you have to have like he had so drossity? Yeah, you know what I mean? It was very talented The worst thing is my one of my neighbors like like at the time the kid came over and just go Oh look and grabs it starts like blowing on it And we were dying, you know cuz I'm like you don't know where that's been. Yeah herpes. Yeah, you got the stink lip Yeah, yeah, that's up. That's crazy. So you can actually suck in air. Yeah God if I had that you could find that on you can I just somebody could do it Can I just say something as a grown man hearing that I'm like that's cool Yeah as a kid I would have been so jealous Yeah, like how awesome do you think that would have been if you could have farted on demand as a young boy? So that's I feel like that's this case right here. I feel like that's somebody who has had those powers Has somebody who has that and I because I've known people that have that that same skill set to not to that level They can blow a trumpet Blow to trumpets another level. I was like I'm still impressed to this day. That's impressive I kind of want to see it to be honest with you Well, it's like film it in the corner not tell me for our audience Can we please give him like a random phone call sometime and ask and put him on live air and just tell him Yeah, yeah, don't tell him just call him up. I should hey, bro. I'm just talking to the guys They really want to see you farting a trumpet. Can you do that challenge? I still do it I'm like you can't do it off from some money For that yeah, I'd pay for that pay for that We got we got people trying to work for us Embarrassment, but you know you get paid don't you think I don't you think that's what happened here though It's probably some asshole like that who has this ability literally. Yeah, some asshole has this ability I think it's well asshole. Well, I mean to be honest, okay I remember when I used to eat, you know, like a bodybuilder because I thought that was the right way to eat Oh, how gassy well, it wasn't just gassy like my farts were oh they clear the room They were terrible. Yeah, they were like so bad that I'm pretty sure it played where were we where are we with Craig when Craig? We're at the sweet we're so bad. We're the good he cleared the sweet out He tried to warn us like he did he's okay A lot of protein today. Doesn't we were watching the the WWE? Oh, that's what that was. Yeah I forgot Craig or came with us Yeah, it's terrible, you know we cleared the whole box your farts are not supposed to smell that Bro, I thought that was normal. We knew it was protein related to yeah, cuz you know you just don't get them otherwise yours are getting better yeah Come on man, there's some I mean you got some some you have some room to go It's not as bad talking about it. Yeah, I don't have any he's turning into the Phantom shitter, bro Oh, you think that's me Crushed You fucker To bro come back in the room listen this so we had so oh we did we tell our audience what happened? We did we oh no that we got the weird the born house. Yeah, no we didn't share I didn't say any of I tell you tell your story first and then or maybe we'll tell the house story Well, yeah, you tell the so we get we get to LA We have an Airbnb and it was a last-minute house because it was what all our all-star weekend Yeah, and they're like well normally don't rent it out for people sleep here because it's used just for filming So we're like, huh? So we get there and it's weird like there's like cables coming out of the wall Yeah master bedroom had a bed and remember this is like a five million dollar house five million dollar house Yeah, the bed had no sheets or anything on it upstairs was locked, but the lights are on so something was up there And there was weed on the counter like ground-up weed on the guy like a little bit. There's like Decent I feel like I feel like it was a porn that they filmed there and that we had to leave After so then we got a hotel room and then this is when this happens. Yeah So then we get it so then we had to get three hotel rooms, right? So we're all we're all bunked up on each one. So Justin and I are together and I don't remember Where did we go that day? Just oh, that's when we went different ways, right? Yeah We went different ways and I come back in the room late in the night I crushed it and the toilet is just painted, bro Painted Justin what the fuck happened in the bathroom, right? He goes. Oh, dude. He says I had a big scare Oh my god, it wouldn't go down. That's what he said. Well, yeah, you know, it looks like you had to break it up Dude just to go. Yeah, I've had some of this. You have to put your hand in there This is flushed a couple times To add a little use the coat hanger trip. That's what I told you how to sell about so yeah Sometimes, you know, like if I'm flying I'm traveling, you know, I'm holding on to it And then it all comes out at once You know what I'm so hot from me because you guys usually room together and then I usually room with Doug and Doug because we are in the same Arctic that looks like a little baby. No, Doug never poops Well, we're somewhere he gets backed up Doug. So I'm the one that dominates the toilet in there So I apologize. You always dominate the toilet. Where did we go this time? You shit everywhere. Can we talk about Doug? Shit Nick Christina Even more epic so we get okay, so Christina is the run Interview number six, right? We're and we roll up to we've already been here before so Sal and I've already been to her place We get there and she's got a just a small Yeah, studio so we're sitting in the in the you know living room dining room type area podcasting and Doug's there too and When we first came in the door Sal made a joke because she was lit. She listens to all the episodes I'm sure she's gonna hear this too. This is gonna be great. So So so Sal made a joke about Wanted to use her bathroom real quick like you know cuz she made the comment about shitting right away Like she goes make sure you go to the bathroom before you get here to have a deal So then so I go take a shit real quick and she's like that and there it was a joke, right? So we sit down that was like when we first walk in we sit down we're podcasting Well, Doug disappears like for 20 30 minutes into the podcast And actually we really didn't even notice anything because we were going in the podcast And we leave and Doug's like I don't know. I fucking into she's like I plucked the toilet in there Take a big shit in there and he plugged the toilet he's in there working it out. Sorry Christina He plunged it out Well, he plunged we've all been there he plunged it out He had to pull it out because I wouldn't go down but he stuffed it down the shower So He pushed it down the drain you're fine Died though when she when Doug said that oh, that's hilarious because we were joking. It's the worst place to poop as a girls house Everybody can't I don't like pooping at girls. That's that's just terrible. I don't I try and I try and time all my poops at my own house Yeah, that's it. Like I don't like doing we're gone. Well hotel rooms are okay Yeah, yeah, yeah, we stay at night you drop to do so read a culture cast, didn't you? No, you sure no, I promise That's our mission our mission is to just that's how we mark our territory Well, I'm sorry in our space. I'm very careful. We've had some bad experiences in the past where we did when Justin I went used to go down on the pizza, right? We haven't done that a long time. I'm actually very proud We've been eating good. I'm very proud of our traveling I'm a closer diet and we have we've gotten to the point where we we we either fast right or we lots of vegetables Yeah, proteins. Yeah, I know it's we've been really solid when we travel and you know It's been I can tell a big difference to you like my stomach feels a million times You're less tired when you get back right and I do notice the interviews we tend to do better, too So that's that's the main thing that performance wise. Yeah, that's why I'm on. Thank you We're gonna perform well you got to be in good health So I think if we do the Brussels sprouts pretty religiously eggs and bacon and then green juice those Oh, those three things is what we serve Organified green juice has become a travel staple. Well, they nice to have with you Well, they make the ones too. That's what I love. I'm so glad they serve Yeah, this is I keep one at my house and then I keep a handful of those You know single-serve terror ones those fit my bag perfect. It's um, you know what I've been I've been using it long enough Now the green juice that I if I'm gonna eat a meal without vegetables or that's kind of iffy If I throw on the green juice, it does make a difference on my digestion. It really does. So They did a good job with that. So good job guys Today's quads being brought to you by Chimera coffee It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural Nutropics for a cleaner calmer and more focused buzz without the crash put the Chimera link at mind pump media comm and input the discount code Mind pump a check out for 10% off First question is from Jack K. I'm trying to help out my roommate with his overall health and wellness He needs work on his sleep schedule any advice. I feel like when you say his name, it's like Jack Okay Okay, okay Let's see here. Okay. You know, what's funny? I It's not funny. We've talked about this before It's crazy how important sleep is to overall performance strength fat loss health It's crazy to me because I didn't realize it until More recently like when I was and this doesn't mean that you don't need to focus on this in your 20s What I'm realizing now is I did what I did in my 20s in spite of the fact right that I didn't do this stuff And I can only imagine had I focused on sleep how fucking awesome I would have been because it make because now that I'm more aware and I just pay attention more as a young man It was like a badge of honor not to sleep. So dumb. It was so it really was I mean that was I remember talking shit to each other if you had to go to bed or sleep in your day I mean it forever. It was like that. It was I didn't and I didn't really feel the difference until I got into my 30s Well, that's what I think I wonder if we did we know I know I agree with you Right, you're just so you're that a and everyone knows it was a drinking speed stacks all day. Yes on top of it You know because I remember You know, I do close out so when I would you know when when we'd run clubs We'd have these closeouts and the month closeouts which are big and I would usually get in Average on a closeout 6 a.m. So I'd get there real early sometimes earlier And then I'd stay till the books so we had to keep the books open or at least excuse me till we were forced to close them Which later on became 10 10 p.m. But early on in my career. They let us keep the books open till midnight So I'd be there from 6 a.m. To 10 p.m. At least sometimes till midnight and then the next day is a day of work And I'd go to work the next day and I remember that I would always notice a drop in performance the next day Like I'm kind of like a zombie But you know I used to push myself a lot like that when I was a young kid and I did okay in spite of it But I can't even imagine how good I would have performed on everything had I focused on sleep Sleep is up there with food and water in terms of you know importance of health Literally total health. So I'm talking about risk of cancer heart disease diabetes Alzheimer's And if you're just focused on aesthetic goals Fat loss and muscle building will poor sleep affect your ability to build muscle and adapt Massively incredibly so it's very very important But there's two parts of sleep that we need to there's two parts that we need to understand about sleep one is Sleep quantity and then the other sleep quality and they're both very important. I think sometimes people Think sleep quantity is the only thing that's important You know I mean so when I talk to people about their sleep and I ask them How do you sleep they'll say? Oh, it's fine. You know I get about eight hours at night But then when I start digging deeper like oh, I wake up two or three times in a night and you know I can't go I wake up. I can't go back to sleep There's there at the I think people sleep patterns look a lot like a lot of people's eating patterns with the binge and purge I think a lot of people burn the candle at both ends and then they sleep really hard one day they sleep all the way in on the Saturday and I would argue that that's probably One of the worst things that we could do and I think that because they get that rest They think they're doing okay Just like the whole binging and purging of eating You know you go over eat like crazy, then you starve your body some with that and I think I mean I'm speculating that it's probably as bad. I would assume it is you're right Yeah, there so there's actually some studies on this to show how it's called sleep debt Where you lose sleep like let's say you like You know you you cram real hard for three days in a row, so they're like I'll sleep in Saturday Right, and so what you're trying to do is you're trying to make up for it And they call it sleep debt Studies show that one day of sleeping a lot does a little bit But not much is very little to to help you in terms of your health and your your cognitive ability Or at least you know to to bring back the decline that you get from lack of sleep The way they say you should make up for sleep is not to do one crazy long sleep session unless you you can't wake up And so whatever what they say is to add an extra hour of sleep every night Instead so if I went you know two or three nights five hours a night, and I'm just Grinding then the next you know four or five nights I add an hour of quality which nobody's doing that nobody's doing that we spread it out like that Yeah, and even as a kid, too I mean it's like you kind of go through the process of like like I want to stamp all night and you know I'll be able to make up for it or you know I can I can train real hard and then you know I'll just I'll all recover and like that's just the mentality whereas like you know There's a way to make all this effortless like this this health this You know performance and you know whatever drives you as far as your fitness goals concern like Sleeps one of those things if you incorporate You know a quality sleep it's just gonna make things a lot more effortless and You know you find that like having to add all these stimulants and add all this excess Stuff to keep the energy levels up. It's like, you know, it sucks is I remember being told this when I was younger It just doesn't resonate yet. No, you know, you know what it would have sold it to me What if I had Somebody sell me on the muscle building fat loss effects of it. I agree. That would have made me do it That yeah, you're right, but the part of like, oh you need it because good for you what I fuck off I'm good. I'm crushing. I can wake up early. No problem, right? But if someone sold me on the fat loss and muscle building effects, right? I might have done it and I don't know if we knew the effect then necessarily how much of an impact it had Back then I remember reading like get good sleep and eat a lot of food. Yeah, but I feel like it's one of those things We've kind of always that we've done like your mom would tell you Yeah, that's why you brush it off, right? Yeah, that's why so And it's tough because this person's asking for like his roommate like how do you help me out with my roommate? Overall health wellness he needs to work on asleep Well, so so I have to help a homey out it is telling me to sleep more So I helped Jessica with this because she had terrible sleep patterns when we first started dating like she was one of those Go-go-go coffee in the morning don't need much sleep And she'd wake up in the middle of night or she'd wake up hella early and so One thing that we did that really helped was we created a sleep routine We reduced caffeine during the day and a lot of stuff, but we did a sleep routine So about one to two hours before bed We shut the lights off and either use candlelight or go by really really dim light So it's now dark in the house and what we try each other smoke signals Yeah, no what we try and do now is we try to mimic the Sun So if the Sun sets and it's supposed to be dark outside Then we make it dark in the house and at first it's weird, but then you get used to it It's not a big deal. I mean, you know, we have enough light to see what we need to do Turn off all electronics and then we'll have like one or two cups of chamomile tea Which is really relaxing imagine being a teenage boy walking over to your house Like when we were kids and seeing that and be like what the fuck is going on here? Sacrificing another animal. What's up, bro? You can't afford to keep your lights on turn your lights on man Well, you know, what's funny is that I first I didn't know that I didn't think this would make a difference It makes a big difference huge because then then when we go on these trips and stuff And we don't do that and I try to go to sleep right after Bright-ass lights and oh, you know, it's hard. Did you ever like convert to the blue blocker thing? Yep, my kids I have my kids where really so at night when the kids are if we're watching If the kids are watching because I'll let them watch a little bit of tv or something or you know before bed Um, I'll have them put on the blue blockers at least an hour to before bed Oh, that sucks. You fuck up their whole cartoon experience. No, I because the changes the colors No, the ones I bought you they don't do that. Oh, they don't no I got these really expensive ones that don't change. How's that possible? If it's a blue blocker and you're watching tv wouldn't it block the blue by science adam No, they're they're clear. I've tried watching before and I'm like this fucking sucks I feel like I just went back 15 years on television Yeah, dude, like the tv's all like fuzzy now because I got these glasses on your tank So not high death, you know, this is something that has been Really tough for me because I've I was never like somebody who got good sleep. I was definitely the person who wore it like it was a badge of honor to not sleep And I do recognize It's not as simple as just going to bed for me either. I have to Prep myself before I go to bed to have a successful night of sleep If I think I'm just gonna work and do whatever and watch tv all the way till It's time for me that I gotta go to sleep or it's getting close to midnight or whatever I always have a hard time sleeping But if I do this and I've put this together now from from playing around with all this and all the talk that we've done With the blue blocking and all that shit The biggest thing for me is turning on all turning off all those those bright lights in your house When the sun goes down like turning that turning that all off and it's crazy How big of a difference it makes a huge difference makes a huge difference And then another bad habit of mine is the phone and the computer screen You know close to my face, you know right before I go to bed. So if I shut it off at seven It's that's plenty of time for me to completely wind down And then it's really easy to meet for me to transition and go to bed Did you do now that you've been doing that because you had really bad sleep before Like how if you were to rate your sleep before versus now how big of a difference Oh, it's a huge difference and I can tell by the way I get up I mean I get I don't have to use an alarm most of the time if I have to be up really or like when we fly out somewhere I have to get up at 4 30 like that's a little abnormal, but what about caffeine? Have you limited your caffeine in the evening? I'm never I'm never any caffeine at night. Okay. Oh, yeah No, I don't I can't do caffeine was the latest you've gone four o'clock. Yeah four o'clock is I have that I've got that down to a science right if I go behind that I'm screwed Yeah, if I go anytime and even like four sometimes will fuck up my sleep a little bit like it's So I don't even like to flirt with that come around noon or one. I'm pretty much done I'll tell you what's not good for sleep drinking alcohol. Oh, it's the worst terrible You have the worst sleep when you drink out. I I'm horrible with that But some people think because it does wind you down and they pass out. Yeah, it's like other That's that's the station. I have like a drink of wine or whatever, you know, like to kind of cool It it does not contribute to get sleep that sleep quality right there like you'll it'll knock you out So this is how I use brain fm is brain fm is my hack when I don't follow my steps like I'm supposed to Like so in a perfect world I come home, you know, we light a fire suns down lights are off We're pretty much by fire and maybe watching the the the big screen for a little bit Then, you know, seven o'clock rolls around and I Katrina and I are like listening to an audiobook Like that's that night right there. I'll have the most Lovely sleep ever if I if I follow those steps Now real life sometimes that that shit doesn't happen and I'm busy or forget to turn the lights off Or I don't even get home until late and I've been going still This is when I really try and use brain fm because people ask me all the time about that I say I use it a lot because that unfortunately happens to me a lot where I'm not perfect I'm always striving though to do this all naturally. All right I want to try and like do that let the lights all come down stop staring at a screen at seven eight beyond seven eight o'clock Do something that's more like either me reading or listening to a book That winds me down really well. Other if I can't get to that. I don't do all those steps It's kind of like the same way I supplement with green juice with vegetables. It's like always the goal I'm not I would never tell someone to go take green juice every single day instead of having Right instead of having vegetables It's like my goal always is to not have to use it, but I love to supplement with that Well, the same thing is with brain fm I use this as a tool of like when I I know the steps I need to do To have a perfect night's sleep and then I know what happens when I don't and then that's when I use that hack Next question is from ander beth. Do you think there are any health benefits to high carb diets? So, yeah, yeah, I not necessarily because it's high carb more so because it's low Other things So typically if you have a high car because if you have a high carb high fat high protein diet Well, then you just have a high calorie So so this is in context showing it in so when someone says high carb It's in context to or comparison to the other macro nutrients I definitely think so when I go on my vegan days where sometimes my vegan days are mostly Low calorie vegetables, but there's been times where I'll do quinoa or buckwheat or You know a little bit of you know of carbohydrates with my vegetables so In context those days are high carb for me because I don't eat very much protein at all except for what comes from my veggies And the fat is you know a little bit of olive oil here and there Is there a benefit to that you better believe it? I mean when you fast one of the reasons why when you fast you get all these health benefits is because you have low protein and low carbohydrates So low protein also has its benefits in terms of reducing inflammation In terms of reducing cancer risk Reducing the some of the aging effects that food has on the body Tends to come from a lot of protein and I think it mimics it more mimics How our bodies kind of evolved eating because we've talked about this on the show For sure humans you know through most of human evolution For sure we weren't like oh got my proteins and fats got to have my carbs got to have my My veggies and then they have this balanced meal or whatever But meals were not balanced. That's a recent thing where we think we need to have You know so many of each macro the most meals were probably I killed this animal. So guess what we're eating for the next year is all protein and all fat And oh look, we found some some vegetables and stuff guess what we're eating for the next You know a couple days. Well, I definitely like high carb for you know athletic purposes if if you deplete first, right? So if you go through the process of being you know glycogen depleted and then you come back you reintroduce So it's a timing thing as far as now that I'm going to have like this type of a fuel to give me immediate source. So when I do any kind of really strenuous like You know fast twitch type exercises and power You know that's that's a great fuel source to run off of so I think high carb diets have got a really bad rap in the last few years And I think part of that is is less about the it's high high carb and really how much our lifestyle has changed as humans I think that part of why keto and paleo are such the crave right now is because people are so sedentary Yeah, we're so sedentary. We don't move anymore. I mean, I you know what would suck is a low carb diet back in like You know 1901 fucking bailing hay all day long. Yeah, you know, I'm saying you're a farmer Fuck ketones. I wouldn't want to be running on ketones back then. I would want some quick sugars. No, thanks Yeah, so I think that I think these high carb diets have gotten you know people try and demonize carbs And even though we're very pro ketogenic. We're pro paleo We're pro. I mean I'm pro everything. It's like food. There's it's just as long as it makes sense You know for your lifestyle and just like with any other diet I would tell the same person too that I do I'm pro high carb diet, but I wouldn't run that all the time You know no and there's some I mean there's situate vegan diets tend to be high in carbohydrates And for some people vegan diets are extremely healthy And when you look at The world's uh blue zones is where people live a disproportionate amount of people live to a hundred or older Compared to the rest of the world some of them do have carbohydrate heavy diets Again, it's all in proportion to the other macronutrients now. This doesn't mean High sugar or high processed foods because carbohydrates come in many different forms Um, I you know, you have the whole grains which for some people are great other people They have intolerances to some of them. So then you can go rice and buckwheat and quinoa starches like potato Certain types of you know corn You know those things can definitely have for some people health benefits and they feed different bacteria in the gut That's another thing there's also benefits to running a high carb diet too If you're somebody who knows they intermittently introduce things like wine or cake or things in their diet If you don't ever eat something like that and you follow ketogenic diet and then you do those things I think the I feel like it's far more detrimental to your body as far as what you feel like afterwards I think it's gives you more metabolic flexibility when you when you do that with uh with cycling high carbs in every once Yeah, one of the problems too is when people in the past High carb diets were usually relegated to um endurance athletes. So like runner cyclists. They're the ones that were pushing carbs and people who did that some many times had negative effects But if you look at the food that they were eating To get the carbs. It was a lot of pasta a lot of bread A lot of these kinds of grains starchy. Yeah, yeah, and it wasn't the Yeah, the less the less processed more natural types of carbohydrates, which Again, this is a lot of this is anecdote, but a lot of people Do better on those versus the you know the the the pastas and the breads and those kinds of grains. So Doug, what's the next question? Hey guys, Doug here Let's see. So this is from Let's see scott finding wellness In your experience, does it take longer for someone who has been overweight their entire life to lose weight? Then someone who has only been overweight for a few years or so Sal take it away. Yeah, he doesn't do that All right Doug. I'll do it All right. All right. Yeah, it is harder for much harder for sure much harder. There's a few reasons why um, let's just focus on the Behavioral component. Let's not look and don't even worry about the physical component because that's that's part of it That's a great point. But the behavioral component. Is it harder to Change your behavior If your behavior has been something that you've been practicing for two years Versus something you've been practicing your whole life. Well, there's your answer right there. All right If you've been overweight your entire life the odds are you've probably not had A very active life and definitely probably have not been eating Very well, you've you've overeaten quite a bit and your food choices are probably not that great And you will probably raise that way a lot of kids Were when I was a kid and in today too, although I feel like today Kids or or parents are a little bit more aware than they were when I was a kid But when I was a kid, you know, you're talking about the 80s This was the heyday of processed food like the 80s had And explosion because tv dinners got introduced in the 50s and hot pockets were invented then the 60s kind of But still mom was still cooking at home home, you know home cooked meal 70s it started getting more popular then the 80s happened And what happened in the 80s would you you had an explosion in the divorce rate? Which really started to take off in the 60s But really the 80s when it hit like monumental levels So you had a lot of you know single-parent households or or kids that were latchkey where they would come home from school You know moms were working now, you know in the 80s when it became regular moms were working dads were working Kids come home gotta come home warm up some bagel bites Yeah convenience became a priority much more than in the past, you know in the past A parent was home usually mom and she would prepare Food for you. It was home cooked. Well when nobody's home, you know, both people work I know this, you know, I was like this with my when I was married like it's tough It's a tough gig and on top of it you want to cook dinner, which takes an hour and then you got to clean everything You know how easy it is to just be like, you know what? Let's just buy some food or let's just pull this out of the freezer. You guys want a pizza You want some cereal. You want, you know, whatever. It's super easy. So when I was a kid This is when processed foods fucking exploded like literally went crazy I you know my household luckily my, you know, my parents are a bit old school I ate a home cooked dinner most of the time however I also had a shit ton of processed food in my house all the time So lunch was usually something processed because my mom didn't make us all Lunch all the time sometimes she did but it was always just dinner and breakfast was always Process was always a sugary cereal or a toaster strudel or a pop tart or some other You know bullshit and when I would go to school My lunches which were you know a sandwich with some kind of a processed snack Didn't even compare to my friend's lunches my friend's lunches They'd have like a some kind of a soda or fruit fake drink They'd have some kind of a Package something or food squirt they would have squirt. That was a real common one Um, and and it was just around like just syrup I was so jealous too when I saw So it was really fucking bad. So you've got all these kids who grew up this way So now that you're growing up eating this your palette is fucking thrown off because you're so used to Engineered foods that when you eat whole foods or natural foods, they taste like shit They taste bland that can change though and that will change if you put the time in Is it but how hard is it to change when that's your wiring since you were a kid? It is but but I'll I mean I'll you're a testament. Oh fucking a I was that kid for sure I mean we had candy forever and I was all the way through high school for sure and into my even my 20 So this was something that it was Later in life that I break out of this It wasn't until like I started seeing the autoimmune issues popping up where I started to try and like, okay What the fuck's going on with me? And I'm sure this didn't help the cause of me, you know Consuming as much garbage and sugar as I was always consuming But the question was more like what the question me was infinite years parents taking me along for someone who has been overweight You know what here's the thing that I want to talk about what I see With this this client that's really common that I think is really important to address is A lot of times when you have a long way to go like this And you've decided you're going to make this change You're super motivated and you kind of you kind of throw the whole kitchen sink at it And I think in my experience The most common thing that I've had to do is to coach people through this process of not Overdoing it too fast too soon because what happens when you've got a hundred pounds or more to lose You start you want you want the pounds that up so fast Like you're looking at the hundred pounds and you're going like I don't want to get five pounds this week and seven pounds next week Even 30 pounds. Yeah, right and shows like the biggest loser Just play right into this and I absolutely hate that because If you're going to keep it off forever you really want to go Nice and slow and gradual and I think it's important that If you're going to if if you're going to set yourself up for long-term success You don't want to see tons of pounds coming off you week over week. No and that's hard to tell somebody we need it Well, let's break it down, right? So you're you've been over rate for most of your life And now you want to lose weight. So why is it important to go slow? Well, there's a there's a couple reasons why now psychologically speaking Uh, you want to challenge yourself because challenge is what gives uh, meaning to things So if you could just snap your fingers and lose all that weight Um, you'll quickly find that you're if you were to compare yourself to a version of yourself that lost that weight through Changing behaviors eating right through exercise. There's much more to gain from the hard way because Challenge gives things meaning it means more. There's more to learn. So you do want to challenge yourself So what adam saying isn't go slow like don't challenge yourself right right challenge yourself However, you want to challenge yourself with something that is realistic So Something you know that will be a challenge, but you also know I can probably do that Don't challenge yourself with stuff that you realistically think I'm probably gonna fail that because if you string enough fails in front of you together You've lost your hope. You don't want to do it anymore. Like fuck it. I'm not winning. This sucks You know, I've already totally destroyed my new diet or whatever It's it's not gonna work. So starting very slow super important and sometimes and this was adam brought this up a long time ago I thought it was absolutely brilliant Sometimes the best thing to do is to not take anything away But rather than add rather than uh to take things away add things right add healthier stuff That's it. So instead of so maybe the first goal maybe the first goal isn't to You know cut out sugar or something like that. Maybe the first goal is I am going to eat One large serving of vegetables every day and do that first Because that can be challenging, but it's realistic. I think it's more realistic than cutting something out for most people Start with that and then and then take it from there Now physically speaking is it harder to lose weight if you've had it on your whole life Besides the psychological. Yes, there's evidence to suggest that. Um You add fat cells to your body Of only a few times in your life one is, you know, when you're a baby Another time is when you go through puberty and another time is in the third trimester of pregnancy if you're a woman So if you're gaining a lot of body fat as a kid You know, you could very well just be adding More fat cells to your body, which then makes it more difficult Uh to to lose later on So, um, but this is not to say that there isn't hope, you know, I don't want to crap anybody out like There's a lot of hope you just have to change your behaviors and that takes a long time So be patient with yourself. Yeah, I think I mean it can be daunting. Um, Especially if it's like you've been overweight your entire life and you just don't know what it looks like to um to live a different type of a lifestyle and so you know to That and this is all waiting on like how they're coming in and what kind of mentality they have going towards this change Are they really open to changing their lifestyle or are they just Wanting to lose weight, right? And it's a totally different process. So I think that you know, it's it's definitely going to depend on the person And their intent throughout the process because somebody too that had already, you know been Um in shape and then got way out of shape May look at coming back into shape as like almost impossible because they knew You know the the process to them was even more scary You also get used to it, right? If you've been fat your whole life you get used to it You know if you happen over a course of a couple years You might be more motivated because you're like, oh, I remember what it was like This is this is somebody too that I would love to see Inside of our forum because of the support that's there and how many people that has actually gone through this themselves So if you know, Scott, I don't know where you're at financially If you can afford to get in the forum if you can't then you reach out to me And I'll let you in the forum for free Because this is the type of person that I think it's important very nice the way you start This journey is is extremely crucial. You need a community Yeah, and I think the forum has got tons of people man that would love to share Their process and the steps they took so make sure you reach out Next question is from Jeff Sherman 22 Working at a new open box gym as a personal trainer Our one-on-one sessions are 40 minutes long and we can only train in a circuit style hit program My manager believes this will generate more clients down the line because of the fast paced movement I don't think that's the right choice Just wanted to get your advice on circuit only style training Go with your intuition. So Jeff So here's what I want you to do if you're if your boss doesn't listen to mine pump Send him this episode because I'm gonna give a message right now to your manager You're an idiot Okay, you're not a good manager and no that's not gonna work Now if you're creating a Circuit gym and that's what you guys do like I said, it's a it's like an orange theory or something like that That's fine. But if this is one-on-one training Then what the fuck are you doing like all the value of one-on-one training is being able to individualize A training program as we'll just take a class to that point You are gonna burn people out and you're trained not only just a client You're gonna burn your trainers out if you limit your trainers of this much You know to what they can do in this particular You're gonna have a tough time Okay, well take a take a deep breath because now now obviously Jeff has triggered all of us because Obviously a soft spot for all of us that have managed managers for a long time And we're probably choking manager references now Let's let's think about this that this is probably somebody who's been promoted very young and I mean I was 22 years old when I was Managing a team that everybody was older than I was and I probably this is a very surface understanding of fitness Right exact and and maybe this manager doesn't know that. Okay. So this is the Jeff you need to understand that Maybe you're more educated Maybe you're uh, you listen to mind pump on a regular basis So the information that you've you've received over the last two years is probably more than what this manager potentially has And so having a little bit of compassion and understanding that now a great book that I recommend to people that are in situations like this was John C. Maxwell's 360 leader and that's just about what it's like Leading and managing in middle management. So what's it like for someone like you who has people above you and below you? And especially when you feel like you're smarter than they are and how do you navigate around that because at the end of the day Uh, even though Sal's passionate and wants to tell your boss to fuck off. You can't say that Or else you probably won't have a job. Probably won't have a job. So I think that um Man, this is a really tough one if he's enforcing it because if you if you truly feel That um, this is you're you're not doing a good service to your clients and you need to move on This might be your you might want to look at another jam Yeah, you you may want to look especially if this is coming from leadership, right? Because obviously they're their concern is to just burn as much calories and potentially lose somebody quick weight So they can show quick results and hopefully re-sign more people or bust more people in and out Try to be all like time efficient. Yeah, and at it from like numbers management, you know, businessy kind of Right work with training people But you'll see we just released a hit program right now And in the hit program comes with a warning that tells people they should not follow this longer than six weeks And yeah, there's a time and a place for it. Yeah, I imagine doing this all the time. No, that's the thing Yeah, he's talking everybody's doing it all the time I mean, I could see it being a successful business model if that was the business model Like if it wasn't if it was a because it's a big box gym, which is a little different but like orange theory There's a style. There's how they follow things and I could see that, you know People come in and for that specific type of class But I don't know man like yeah, but that's a class This is one on one like he had mentioned earlier one on one is that's all the value of one on one Is the individualism is the total identifying, you know problematic movements and Fixing it and like basically add, you know adding strength to the entire body and you know measured way. Is he I mean So here's the thing too is if he's just suggesting it and he thinks that that's what you should do And he's coaching that he's just he doesn't know and like sal said he's an idiot He doesn't know any better But if he's not and he's not forcing it. Yeah, do you do your fucking thing? You don't need to don't waste your time trying to tell your right because that would be naive of you to think that you're going to You know make your boss feel dumb and and try and educate and that's not going to go I would probably just do the way I would do it anyways Right, and then if you said something and it turns into like a meeting thing, but cool bring your boss Exactly, that's a great man. We'll talk right. I would continue to do what I think is best for my clients And then if if he was that that dumb like Justin said it's a tough situation to be in because As a trainer most most fitness people have a passion for The clients especially one-on-one like when you train someone one-on-one you develop a bond with them They trust you and you want to help them? I've seen many times where trainers are in this predicament where they Their boss or whatever is telling them to sell them particular products or supplements or tell them to do a particular thing And then the trainer themselves know that that's not right for the client That's a tough predicament to be in but at the end of the day I'm going to recommend that you be true to yourself It might hurt you in the short term. In other words, you might lose your job or whatever But I don't it's hard to live with yourself when you're doing things your clients will respect you and that's what matters Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Uh, so check this out. Uh, youtube mind pump tv new videos posted all the time also 30 days of coaching we still got that going on It's at mind pump media.com. 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