 But I voted, when I found out that ol' I was now going to veto the federal pay raise, I voted against it and I voted sustainably to it. But I'm not going to sacrifice for seven meters, when the president don't sign the bill. Well now, are you ready to vote against this military, civilian, pay-by-vote bill? Yes, sir. If you do it, we're both up. What about health education bills? Five hundred million in that. I just didn't pound that. I voted against it, but that's about it. You don't realize how you've got this president down there. If you just didn't pound that and say, well, we can... What about the impacted school bill? I'd leave that alone. I wouldn't fool with that. That's part of the school system in this country that's been 15 years old. Yes, but a third of it goes to the rich people. It goes, it's not to the poor districts. It's out to these goddamn districts where they got... Well, the districts where the people had the house but kept it and come... Alexander and Arlington, get a third of it. That's right. That's just out of it. Well, if you just didn't pound a third of it, you'd get away with it. And then you won't let a school district and you won't lose more than 15,000, 20,000 votes through the country. And what about agriculture? You've got $500 million in the house bill over there. Instead of that capital, I don't know what did. That's too much a program. You can't get away with that. You're going to have to keep that going like it is now. You know, the thing that caused our trouble over... REA's got $150 million. Are you going to go with REA and the power company? I'm not going to either one. Well, we've got an REA bill up there. It creates a bank. I'm going to make some quit this 2%. I don't support that. Make some quit this. No, hell, you ain't got that 2% in there. No, I got 2% just for the poor ones that till the transition period. No, that's too low. I didn't know that. I thought there was REA bill at the 2% in there. Well, I'd say there. REA's got to... We've both got 2%, but one of them wanted longer in mind. Mine cuts it off in mind. I vote for the administration bill, but I don't think you ought to have 2% at all. I think it's ridiculous. That's just for the poor co-ops. These are co-ops that are making more money than anybody now. By my state, they're paying the managers from 27,000 to 5,000 a year. All of them can do it. They pay the regular rate. Everybody, only the insolent ones, they get the low rate. Only the poor. All I'm interested in, though, if there are not many, but all of them are few in the United States. But all I'm interested in is you view whether it's public power or whether you're for the REA. Power companies are fighting us now. I'm not feeding one up. Well, I'm in the middle. I think REA is going too far on that side, and I know the power companies are going too far on that side. That's what I'm talking about. All right. But power companies have come up there. That's what I've got. That's what I've got. And power companies won't do it, though. We can make them do it. We can make them do it. They won't have the choice. Well, we'll rip the hell out of them. How about the power companies? Yeah, that's what we've got to do. But I wouldn't give the REA too much, because they're in good shape, Mr. President. I'm not giving them much. I understand. I'm not ridden. They're opposing me. They're opposing me, you see. I fought for the REA when they invented it. Oh. I was crazy. I used to go and get you to put in $200 million at a time when I was in the house. You forgot me. I still fought, but they're all flourishing now. They're doing well. Didn't everybody do well? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Are you scared about inflation? Well, yes. I think all of us have something concerned about it, don't you? Every economist I've got to tell me we've got to have a tax bill. Well, I don't agree with that. I don't either. Unemployment's going up to about... I must say I'm concerned about inflation. Unemployment's going up to three, nine, four percent now. But I wouldn't... Well, they say that's the only way to drain it all. If they say that we can't cut the expenditure. I thought you and Dirksen would have an agreement and you'd deliver the southerners. He'd deliver the Republicans. And I told Henry Fowler we'll talk to both of you. And that you would keep the budget down, keep the Senate bills down to what the budget's called for and take it out. You may have to take some of it out in poverty. You may have to foreign aid. You may have to take it, but just don't put anything in unless you take it out some other place. The budget's a hundred and twelve billion. That's a hell of a lot of money. But don't tell me that we ought to cut. We can't have control. So we've got to cut expenditures or put a tax bill in to take off this surplus because we overheat. Well, yeah, eventually I don't know about right now. But I'm hoping that I can do it. I think you are eventually going to have to do it. I'm hoping that I can do it until January. But I was hoping you all could kind of hold things until then. Well, I'm going to vote to cut a lot of it. And then if you can get any organized opposition or do this pay raise on me and you can't get it. But if you're going to raise spending, you've got to raise it on me. That's right. And you can't do it. You can't get any opposition. Even you can't get into health education. I can cut out. Well, there's too much money in that health education bill. I agree with you. But it's, you know, what it is, two hundred million. I was impacted at school. That's the first. It's cut four hundred dollars a million. Then it's two hundred. I was impacted at school. Well, they put too much in there. Well, Lisa, go into it and send it. I don't know what to do with House Bill. I haven't checked it. But they're going to put too much in there after this medical research. Yes, ma'am. They haven't got the people to do the work. They've got too much for nearly everything. We're spending, we're appropriating about ten billion more health in education than we did when I became president. And that's going fast. That's too fast. Too fast. You've got to get the scientists to have this community action program. It's a wasteful thing. They ought to cut it out. It's a dangerous thing, too. These folks are liable to get it. The way they handle it, it's just like they've got to get them on high and then there's no accounting for it. What do you think about the election? How many seats you think I'm going to lose now? A house? About twenty-eight. High boys say that we're going to pick up eight or ten. We're going to lose ten or twelve. Well, I think you'll lose about twenty-seven, eight seats in an house. And I don't think you'll lose anything in the Senate. Won't we gain a little? Yeah, you may gain one or two in the Senate. You've got too big of a majority in the house. My poll is dropping like hell, though. I've got to... I had the last gallop. I had exactly what Eisenhower had when he beat streets in fifty-two in the election. He won by fifty-five percent. I had fifty-five. That's high. Everybody said you get fifty-five. It's terrible. I dropped from fifty-five to forty-seven. That's eight points since the last poll, just the last three or four weeks. On what? On how I'm doing my job. You're doing a good job? Yeah. Thirty-thirty... I believe there's forty-somebody that disapproves. No, there's thirty-six or seven that disapprove of the job I'm doing. Only forty-five, only forty-seven approve. Well, half of that is part of your poverty program. These camps are causing you. They're creating you like hell. They talk about them everywhere. And the other half is beating them. There's nothing you can do about that. We've got to see it through, and you're going to see it through, and when it comes down to election, the American people don't see it through. What's poverty like? What's poverty giving us much trouble about? Poverty is not giving you too much. All of it isn't. The Head Start program is pretty popular. They go to court camps. Job court, job court camps like that, and that down in St. Petersburg, and one out here somewhere in Kentucky, Indiana. Well, I get no letters about those. They pick up a little piece out of the paper. Well, they get Austin six, seven, seven thousand dollars, and they've all got in town some night, and had eighteen of them rested, getting drunk, and they just raise hell about that. Well, that's right, but you get to keep them boys getting drunk. Well, I'm not trying to keep them getting drunk. I'm just telling you about that. It's about starting to leave. Well, I'm there once for the camps. I thought the CCC camps were outdated. I think they're outmoded. I don't think it did. Well, if you want me to go to the side. I'm going to tell Michael Marr tomorrow. He's got a plan for taking something anyway, but I'm going to tell him he's got a rep for all nine. You said every man's got a hard pecker, and a strong back, and a weak mind. As far as you're concerned, he can get him up to death. I'm working for that. He got you. Well, I don't want to go home. I'll see you when I get back, and I just want to kind of get my marching order. Oh, yes, I understand. I'm going to always be the downgradest pro-boy that the world's ever seen. I always enjoy talking to you. You just go around and say, I'm not getting out. I don't want to pick your brain and live on. That's right. I do. I'm picking a good one now. No, no, no. Stuck up. I don't want out. I've been benefiting by your wisdom for many, many years, Mr. Russell. I don't want out, Mr. President. Don't depend on it, though. Thank you, my friend. I'll call you. Have a nice time. I'll call you and get back on it. Just go down on the boat some night. You can go out of the boat now when it gets warm. Can't you? Yes, sir. Be happy, too. All right.