 Israel es en un estado de guerra. Las familias son completamente abiertas en sus caballos. No tenemos ni idea de lo que sea. Los soldados están jugando en la línea de frente, pero la percepción general es algo que también necesita ser tomado. Reacción de los países hispano-parlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I24 News. Desde el desplazamiento de terror en el 7 de octubre. Lo que podemos confirmar, solo en, es que dos israelíes russianos, pueden verlos en tu screen ahora mismo, dos mujeres, Irina Tati, edad 73 y Yelena Trupanov, edad 50 en tu screen ahora mismo, han sido llevados a los armados de Hamas Terrorists, dos oficiales de red. Y, como pueden ver, en tu screen, esos imágenes de hace un tiempo. Es el final día de un diálogo de la verdadera. Una verdadera que puede, de nuevo, extender, este tiempo, por cuatro días. En esta lista de 10 hostigas, incluyen mujeres y chicas y chicas. Vean esos imágenes en tu screen ahora mismo. Estos son los dos israelíes russianos, que han sido lanzados primero, y, principalmente, es un tipo de gestión a presidente Vladimir Putin. La familia de Bebas no está en la lista de personas que vienen a casa. Y la IDF está buscando lo que se llama un gran reclamo de Hamas que la madre de Shuri y sus hijos, los jóvenes hostigas, los 10 años más viejos de Bebas, y los 4 años más viejos de Bebas han sido matados. La IDF ha escuchado a Daniel Hagarri, la persona de la persona de la IDF, hablando de esto hace unos momentos, en su briefing de día, diciendo que la IDF dice que Hamas bebe la responsabilidad para la seguridad de todos los hostigas, incluso si Hamas, en realidad, ha dejado la familia de Bebas a otra facción de terror. Ahora, mientras las familias esperan recibir los hostigas de la frontera, también confirmó, de Daniel Hagarri, que la número de hostigas aún en captivity es 159. 159 personas permanecen en captivity en manos de Hamas terroristas. Ahora, para la próxima, vamos a volver a nuestros correspondientes, Zac Anders, él nos acompaña de Shiba Hospital. Así que Zac, sabemos que 12 más hostigas vienen a casa. Se vieron las dos mujeres israelías. Estamos esperando para confirmar que los 10 otros hostigas están soltados momentáneamente. ¿Qué está pasando ahí? ¿Cuáles son las preparaciones que están en el hospital? Bueno, es un juego de esperanza. Los hostigas del hospital están anticipando, como el director dice, cuatro más hostigas van a llegar a la medicina de Shiba. El resto de los hostigas van a ser explotados entre dos otros hostigas. Y hay hostigas en el sur que están en standby. ¿Puede que las condiciones de estos hostigas sean arrastradas directamente a un hospital más cercano potencialmente en Berxava, donde los staff ahí y las facilities de trauma están preparados para llevar a los hostigas en el hospital frío. Antes en el día, a tu punto sobre Kaphir Bebas y su hermano y su madre, una cifra a nivel alto dentro de la oficina del primer ministro informó a nosotros que tienen no indicaciones de que fueron matados, que no están escuchando o viendo nada que indicara que estaban. Y este sources fue un paso más para decir que creen que Hamas tiene control y habilidad para saber, uno, donde todos los hostigas están dentro de Gaza, y, dos, tienen las capacidades operacionales a forzar o a convivir ninguna de las otras acciones para darles a los hostigas para que, últimamente, pinse la responsabilidad en Hamas. Absolutamente devastante para pensar en los juegos que están jugando aquí con las familias. Gracias mucho a los correspondientes, Zac Anders, informando a nosotros desde el hospital de Sheba. Nos vamos a volver de nuevo, por supuesto, para más notaciones. Todavía en el estudio, Lieutenant Colonel en los reservas, Daron Avital, comandante de formación en las fuerzas especiales en la IDF. Y ahora, en el estudio, bienvenido a nuestro señor correspondiente, Owen Altman. Así que, Owen, quiero comenzar con ustedes porque hemos hablado sobre los juegos que Hamas está jugando. ¿Y qué podría ser más cruz que lo que se está deslizando en la familia de Bebas, que se ha convertido en un símbolo de lo que se está deslizando ahora mismo? Two beautiful young children with beautiful red hair and nine-month-old baby at the time of the abduction. Fear, Ariel, four years old and a terrified mother. We have seen those images again and again. And while everybody in the nation was hoping that their names would be on a list and that they would come home safely, you get this report out of Hamas about what may have happened, a report that Israel cannot confirm. Talk to us about what is at play here. Right, cannot yet confirm or deny, Benita. And I think that for all of the cruelty and all of the frustration, we have to overcome it and focus on the most important thing which is assessing whether this is true or not true because that determines the course events over the next few days. The Israeli government has, by all accounts, made it clear to Hamas that before Israel expects Hamas to release, for example, men who are civilians or start to go into other categories, Israel wants to see all women and children be released first. So it has to have an understanding of how many living women and children there are among the hostages in order to do that in this very, very important case to understand what the fate of the Bebas family is as best as Israel can ascertain it. So I think that has to be the focus at this hour trying to understand what the facts are as best as the military can do. They and the Prime Minister have said that they will update the family and presumably the public as well with what they know because it's an important part of the negotiation. Again, I remind everybody that this truce still officially expires tonight, meaning that in principle, exactly, in three hours from now or less at midnight local time, the Israeli military in principle could go back to fighting in the Gaza Strip. And so the clock is ticking toward extending this truce. I think there's a wide expectation it will be extended, but it hasn't been extended. Yet. And in order to extend it and understanding the parameters for extending it, having the facts out there as best we can is very, very important. The US and Qatar, Doron, are pushing for a larger deal. We spoke about it a little bit earlier that could hopefully include men and soldiers being returned. But given your experience in this field, looking back, that comes at a very high price. Would Israel be prepared at this juncture to adhere to that price? It's hard to estimate. It's a real dilemma for the decision makers because when the deal with the soldiers, we have to see whether it's effective and what does it mean? If this means the seizing of all campaign or work, activities, this would be hard for the Israeli to accept. Also the price in terms of whom to release. So this would be a main dilemma. I think they are playing, they are orchestrating this dilemma ahead of us. But maybe we'll find the dilemma when we are already in campaign. There will be a break, a breach in the ceasefire and we are back. As we know this today, the chief of staff offerized the plans of the southern command. So the army is ready. The plans are ready. And if this deal would come out in some later stage in a fighting, then we'll be in a different positioning to negotiate. So maybe this would be a scenario that would be better for us and not in the position that we are now. I do think though that at least civilian men, especially older civilian men, I suspect the price won't be as high and I suspect that that could be made almost as an extension of this deal, just a guess. Of course once you get to the soldiers, that's where it starts to become more difficult. I'll just say about younger women who are also a category obviously that's at risk come as reportedly not so interested in trying to release them. And that's obviously very, very suspicious and very, very upsetting and very, very concerning. But those are the categories that are next on the table. But it has to be emphasized once the current categories have been exhausted. And in having an understanding of whether the current categories have been exhausted, the Israeli government needs the best information it can about the fate of those hostages because once hostages are no longer living, that of course is a very different category. And one would hope that the Israeli government will not treat the living and the dead in the same way. Although of course we hope that all hostages are living and can be part of a current deal. Certainly continue. We have on a perspective of Hamas, soldiers it means prisoners of wars. Prisoners of wars for them it's their soldiers against their, their soldiers, their terrorist soldiers against whatever, against us. So this is a real, and this would be a real dilemma. But maybe we'll be, I say, in the midst of fighting and this will change the equation and how we handle it. Certainly as you say very difficult decisions for leaders to be making talking of which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reiterating earlier that Israel will still achieve its goals in this war. Let's take a listen to what he meant. From the beginning of the war I set three goals, the elimination of Hamas, the return of all Arab ductis and to ensure that Gaza will never again be a threat to Israel. These three goals remain in place. In the last week we achieved a very great achievement, the return of many dozens of our abductees. A week ago it would have sounded imaginary, but we have achieved it. But in the last few days I hear a question. After this phase of returning our abductees is exhausted, will Israel return to fighting? So my answer is an unequivocal yes. So Daron Avital, how is Benjamin Netanyahu doing in terms of achieving those three goals he just outlined in your estimation? The question is ¿cómo es el estado de Israel? Yo diría a Netanyahu en persona. El estado es recruto a esta misión. Así que declaramos dos misiones simultáneamente seguidas, rompiendo Hamas, rompiendo su control militar. En la Gaza han realizado los hosteges, últimamente los hosteges han llegado al frente, dando esos exchanges. Esto es lo que vemos en el combate. En términos de la día después, esto habrá to be worked out with our allies. Los Estados Unidos, Blinken, Tomorrow comes and sits in the world cabinet, which is this is a new thing for Israelis to see them as usual. Yeah, I mean, we could not have envisioned it before. So the day after Hamas, not in Gaza, hopefully, I'm not sure how would it be achieved, but this is a long a long task. But then we'll have to work out with Alice and with Egypt and of course, and I think though Bibi might not agree, the PA would be a player that Hamas would try that the U.S. would try to push forward a stronger PA to be a player. I'm not sure it's coming next not next year, no, but in the long run, this is the only representative the U.S. considers representative of the Palestinian case. And I don't think the U.S. would give any consensual concesion to Bibi about the future in terms of moving forward with the Palestinian case, not the Hamas case. Hamas eliminated maybe Biden initiative comes up and maybe a new middle east is emerging. This is one venue. The other venue is extended. Original conflict Hezbollah enters and then we're in a different story. Well, I mean two comments. First of all, I agree with you, Darron, that the Biden administration and the Netanyahu government have different opinions possibly on what Palestinian governance and Gaza looks like. That said, don't forget Joe Biden's op-ed in the Washington Post with that word revitalized. They got so much attention, right, a revitalized Palestinian authority. That adjective was there on purpose and it was meant to get attention and it did. Unfortunately, the exclusion of the rest of the op-ed. But that's another story. Also, don't underestimate the extent to which Netanyahu's argument about the new conditions for PA governance are being accepted even beyond the obvious circles. Take an obvious example. Thomas Friedman in the New York Times over the last day or two, writing a column that ostensibly, ostensibly is against Netanyahu and ostensibly takes a different line in Palestinian governance than Gaza Strip. But Thomas Friedman in that very column talks about the need to change the education system, talks about the need to get rid of incitement. Where is that coming from? Netanyahu's speeches. It's on the table internationally. It's part of the international agenda. It's a central item in the day after because Netanyahu has convincingly has convincingly placed it there. And that condition is going to be there again. How is it going to be achieved? How deeply is it going to be achieved? How is it going to be monitored? Huge questions, but again, we've seen the German government, for example, cut funding to UNRWA and the Gaza Strip. They're a major funder of the Palestinian education system and of UNRWA. So again, this issue is on the international agenda and it's there because Netanyahu put it there and it's there because Netanyahu put it there convincingly. I would say that the day after all the time talk about the day after in Gaza, in the Middle East, but it's also the day after in Israeli politics. And the day after in Israeli politics would be dramatic. I'm not sure who would they in the end would prevail, but it's going to be a story because an event in this magnitude cannot not have far reaching political consequences within the Israeli society and Israeli political class. We'll have to see what's up. I'm a contrarian and I'm not actually I'm actually not sure about that, but discussion for another day. It certainly will give us discussion for another day. But for today, President Joe Biden, as we've been discussing, taking to social media earlier, let's take a listen to his comments, given what you're talking about with this revitalized Palestinian authority down the line. He says Hamas unleashed a terrorist attack because they fear nothing more than Israelis and Palestinians living side by side in peace to continue down the path of terror, violence, killing and war is to give Hamas what they seek. We can't do that. Your thoughts. Look, the White House, in part, walked back this tweet, right? Saying that Joe Biden is not pushing for a permanencies fire at the end of the war. But what's obviously behind this, right? On one hand, political blowback he's facing from within the Democratic Party and some constituencies that I think he feels politically and I think he probably feels to some extent on the merits. I mean, there is a lot of human suffering in Gaza that touches Palestinian Americans, redowns on Biden. And he feels he has to address that in a way that establishes in his mind and in their mind more balance in American policy. On the other hand, the truly important parts of that Biden up ed, we talked about a few moments ago are still very much, I suspect in Joe Biden's mind. The connection between Israel y Ukraine. The US alliance system around the world. The containment of Russia and China. The contest with China. The contest with Russia. These are what Joe Biden sees as the foreign policy mission and doctrine of his administration. Israel in his mind is part of that. Defeating Hamas is part of that. Shaping the day after in Gaza for that matter, also part of that. A normalization with Saudi Arabia on the day after for that matter, also part of that. So again, Joe Biden has to balance what he sees as the political housekeeping, if you will, within the Democratic Party. And also the bigger geopolitical issues, which I suspect haven't changed for him much since October 7th. One final word about the politics. A lot has been overstated on this as I've said so many times in our broadcast. In practice, there's no clear and present danger to Joe Biden politically from this war. The election is a year away. The new cycle will spin quickly and repeatedly and on many, many more days after Trump. Y a long after, this is well in the rear view mirror. And also, again, it is going to be a contest between him and presumably Donald Trump. That will focus many, many minds in the United States. Yes, there are scenarios where Arab American voters in Michigan decide the election. But those are not the most likely scenarios. This is not a clear and present danger to Biden. But I do suspect he wants to keep the peace within his party at a general level. And that is something that incentivizes a tweet like that. Let's discuss more about what happens down the line in a short while. Right now, let's find out what is happening on the ground at this moment. We go live back to our Middle East correspondent, Ariel Oceran. And I understand that at that junction where you are right now, the convoy has come past just moments ago with two people on the screen. You can see the Russian Israelis who have been set free by Hamas Irina Tati, Yelena Trupanov, coming past in that convoy at the Urim Junction. What is the latest? Say, Ariel, what can you tell us? Right, Benita. The latest is that just no more than 10 minutes ago we could see the convoy carrying Yelena and Irina, some of us wave to them and they pass by and their way to Khatzirim Air Base. This is just a less than 20 minute drive from here Urim Junction in Southern Israel. In Khatzirim Air Base, they'll be medically evaluated. After that, they will make their way to the hospitals in Israel. No, I won't take such a gamble to guess that they will probably make their way to the hospitals only once. This next convoy of hostages arrives that we still have no official word regarding the release of the other 10 Israeli hostages, five women y cinco minores que están esperados a ser enviados a la Red Cross en un momento por Hamas. No hay nada de eso. Después de que están enviados a la Red Cross, la IDF-Wolshill Statement. Y normalmente el tiempo es de una hora, una hora y medio cuando la inicial Statement viene de la IDF que han sido enviados a la Red Cross Hands, entonces hacen su camino aquí pasando a la red para el Air Base. Ahora, en estos últimos minutos, en additione a este convoy pasando aquí, causando un montón de excitamiento aquí en el área, Hamas también ha lanzado un video, un video de la noche, de, probablemente, lo mejor que se puede describir es un show de circunstancia cada noche que se ponen a las cámaras, mostrando el release de los hostages de Israel. Estos últimos días han estado más sorprendidos por los gritos de Gazans intentando mostrar no solo que están en control de la tribu de Gazans, pero también que tienen el apoyo de las personas. Esto es algo que es muy importante a ellos y que están highlightando esto en sus videos. Obviamente, esto es su propagandá regular, pero, de hecho, es también sorprendente que en los últimos momentos de estos hostages de incaptividad, tienen que incumplir a las víctimas y víctimas de la residencia de Gazans cuando están en control de las manos seguras en el red cross en su camino a Israel. Como hemos dicho antes, convoy de dos hostages israelíes que ya han pasado por aquí hace unos minutos, todavía esperando en anticipación para la palabra de el release de los otros 10 hostages que esperan que están en control de la red cross a veces esta noche. Incluso, la fotografía de las dos mujeres que están escortadas por los terroristas armados en las mascas a la red cross muy desgraciada, no para mencionar, como dices, que las víctimas están tirando fotos y saliendo así sobre y sobre el trauma de la capturación durante 7 semanas. Eso es lo que tenían que durar. Vamos a volver a ustedes para los últimos desarrollamientos en el grano. Muchas gracias por ahora. Correspondente de Middle East, Ariel Oceran. Y hablando de las respuestas de across the world, el Ministerio de Defensa Sebastián Lacornou ha hablado con el Mateus Inbar de nuestro canal francés. Vamos a escuchar lo que se ha hablado. ¿De acuerdo con el presidente Biden, quien finalmente dice que no habrá otra opción? Entonces, para regresar a la pelea y irradicar a Hamas. Hamas es un grupo de terror armado con un wing militar. Se debe irradicar. No hay un aliado israelí que disputa esto. Incluso si hayas visto aquí o ahí en Francia con partidos políticos como Francia y Sumi. Pero todo esto es muy residuo. No hay nadie que disputa Israel el derecho a defenderse y nadie puede ver después de lo que sucedió en el 7 de octubre. El desafío de seguridad. Sólo que podemos decir que Hamas lo cuesta y obviamente lo cuesta. La seguridad de Israel y el estado de Israel. Pero también el resto de la región. Porque podemos también ver muy bien que tenemos jihadismo también. Es conectado a redes sociales a circunstancias financieras y me hace por su importancia con lo que está sucediendo en el Levant y en el Sahel. Obviamente no podemos desconnectar de esto. De nuevo, la pregunta es cómo llegar ahí. Esa es la pregunta. Esa es la pregunta que nos preocupa y que obviamente regularmente discuse con mi counterpart Joav Galán. La línea entre Lebanon y Israel no puede ser el objeto de interés entre las grandes elecciones y en todos los europeos o los capitales de Oeste. Pero puede ser una excepción. Es precisamente en Pará. Porque vemos bien que es una prioridad absoluta para la seguridad de Israel y también para la estabilidad de la entire Middle East. ¿Cómo cambiamos las acciones? Porque el tiempo está saliendo y estamos en el brinco de un conflicto que no solo sea original. Obviamente, detrás de Hezbollah es Tehran. Y obviamente, las desafíadas de seguridad son absolutamente terrible. Y así creo que si Israel tiene el derecho a defenderse, le referiré a la ataque, como fue, como sabemos, al ataque terrible de octubre 7. Es claro que control de la escalación también es parte de los parámetros que contribuyen a la seguridad de Israel. Y, por eso, a la seguridad de la entire región. Por eso, más allá de la seguridad del mundo, creo que por ahora es nuestra responsabilidad como líderes políticos para mantener palabras y acciones que son eficientes para no jugar la política de lo peor. French Defense Minister, Sebastián Lacornoux, speaking to our Matias Inbar from our sister French Channel. Owen, your thoughts, your takeaways. Well, he made the best case he could, right, going on I-24 News French Channel about French policy towards this part of the world, right? Playing up the French influence of Lebanon and interest in Lebanon for what it's worth and usefulness of French interest and influence in Lebanon for what it's worth. As for the war and the Gaza Strip, he said that Hamas need to be eliminated, but he certainly danced around the question of the ceasefire and we all know why, we all know what the French government's position is on this. He didn't really get to the answer of exactly how you eliminate Hamas, which he called for, without actually fighting Hamas. Is there some kind of diplomatic solution for eliminating Hamas? If so, I think there are 10 million Israelis who would love to see it. Hamas is not about to stand down, not diplomatically. It seems that there is a tradeoff between eliminating a need in order to eliminate Hamas to fight it and a tradeoff between laying down arms and accepting Hamas or fighting Hamas and eliminating it. By the way, you see the same kind of logic potentially creeping into the Biden administration policy as well. What did Anthony Blinken say earlier in the NATO meeting? Of course, he's coming here tomorrow, so we'll be asked about this. He said the objective has to be to ensure that October 7th never happens again. And then talking about the need to help to do more to spare civilians and get aid into the Strip. Of course, those are not new in terms of American goals. But didn't put out there the idea of Hamas being eliminated. Did allude to his previous comments about the day after in Gaza, which talk, of course, presumes that it's a day after in Gaza without Hamas running the Strip. But did not actually come back to that central Israeli goal from the very, very first meeting of the security cabinet of eliminating Hamas's military capabilities. So if you want to prevent October 7th, does that necessarily mean eliminating Hamas's military capabilities? Or are there two different things and the Biden administration trying to lead Israel towards some other solution? And if so, we have to really see what it is. And there's obviously going to be a lot of skepticism. We're going to talk about that in a moment. But I want to check back in with our correspondent, Nicole Zedek. She's at a hotel in the Dead Sea. Everybody waiting for confirmation about the next set of hostages. What can you tell us there? It's an anxious waiting game, unfortunately, Vanessa. But I can tell you, we are hearing from family members here at Kibbutz Valley, family members of Amit Shani, 16 years old. They say that they believe that he is going to be on the list. He's one of those 10 Israeli hostages that will be returning home tonight. And so that adds to the anticipation that much more because as I said, they claim that they believe he will be coming home. And so after 54 days in Hamas captivity, they're expecting to welcome him home and possibly some others from Kibbutz Valley as well. And so all of these people behind me, their eyes are blue to the screen, wanting all of the alerts just as we are, just waiting to see exactly when their loved ones might be handed over to the Red Cross. And then finally, come back here to Israeli territory after nearly eight weeks, nearly two months in Hamas captivity. It is quite an anxious waiting game. The emotions are very, very high. However, the community is standing strong. And I do want to note on that because we see so much community strength on the people of Barri right now after everything they've been through. The support, the solidarity, it couldn't be stronger right now, as you say, a tense few hours ahead. Thank you so much for now, correspondent Nicole Zedek, speaking to us live from the Dead Sea. A quick break, when we get back, our rolling coverage continues on this Breaking News edition. Stay tuned. Our breaking news coverage continues. I'm Benita Levine. The next set of Israeli hostages is heading home soon after being held captive by Hamas for more than seven weeks since the terror onslaught on the 7th of October. It's the final day of a truce deal, a truce that may again be extended this time by four days. Day 54 of the war, today's list of 10 hostages includes women and teenage girls and boys. We have already seen two Israeli-Russian women, Irina Tate, aged 73, and Yelena Trupanov, aged 50. They are on your screen right now, being escorted by armed, masked terrorists out of a vehicle and handed over to the Red Cross. Their convoy has already come past into Israeli territory and they are on their way to hospitals in Israel to be checked out here. Still waiting for confirmation of exactly who is on that list of 10 Israeli hostages, including women and teenage girls and boys. And as we heard a little bit earlier, the family of Amit Shani, age 16 years old, confirming that he is believed to be on that list, heading home very soon. Now the Bebas family are not on the list and the IDF is looking into what it calls a cruel claim by Hamas that Mother Shiri and her sons, the youngest hostage, 10-month-old Bebas and 4-year-old Ariel Bebas have been killed. The IDF says Hamas bears responsibility for the safety of all the hostages, even if Hamas did, in fact, hand the Bebas family to another terror faction in Khan Yunus. And I want to bring in Doron Abital here because we now also are hearing that according to Daniel Hagarri, the IDF spokesperson, there are 159 people confirmed to be held captive still at the hands of Hamas. So while there is obviously going to be joy in the coming hours for the people reunited, there are still many more held hostage. How does this complicate if it's for a truth right now or does it actually speed them up? I think as long as we, our people in Qatar will succeed and I think my, from what I hear this summer that there are coming, there are more deals coming. As long as we can do those exchanges in terms of women, kids, and combat, and not soldiers, then we have to follow it up. When it comes to the soldiers, it will be a major dilemma. But as long as we can do it with the credible threat that we are posing all the time, this is very important. Without this credible threat that every day in a minute decision we can follow up with our military campaign, I think we could have worked. So I think this is what we heard from Daniel Hagarri. By the way, I think a very good spokesman. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. You know that. He's a Navy Sear commander. You didn't expect from him to be so good in this thing, but he very well presents some good Israeli spirit and sincerity and credibility, which is very important. And from day one? From day one, including the event with the missive that was shot by J.I. Islamic on the hospital. He took his time, but he was on the money and when it was credible, credibility is very important. So this is the game right now, credible threat. Y en términos de la siguiente fase de la guerra, para concluir algo que hablábamos antes, es la pregunta de cómo en el Watt. Y es por eso que Blinken está aquí, y es por eso que hemos escuchado, incluso desde el ministro de Defensa de la Francia, o sea, incluso desde la perspectiva de la israelia, ahora que estamos rotos en Gaza, tenemos la inteligencia, lo sabemos mucho mejor, entonces nuestra tarjeta puede cambiar, podemos ir más surgicos, podemos seguir, no es la misma fase, la primera fase fue diferente, entramos en el terreno, tuvimos que ser muy agresivos en entrar, nos convirtimos en una gran parte de el norte de Gaza, tenemos que pensar en lo siguiente, y estoy seguro de que la armada se ve muy meticulously, cómo conducir la siguiente fase, y creo que será diferente en términos de las tactics y la estrategia y la operación en el terreno desde el primer día. Right, en idea, y casi una pregunta a Daron también, lo que siempre ha sido concebido, ¿were Israel ser un mundo donde se iba y terminó el control de Hamas sobre la israelia de Gaza? Esta es la idea que Avi Dichter ha hablado por tantos años, que Uwe Steinhardt ha hablado por tantos años, donde el modelo fue la operación de la armada defensiva en 2002 en el Bank West. La idea de que no era necesariamente el tipo de warfare que vimos en el curso del último mes y medio, pero que era una warfare de casa a casa donde fue hecho metodalmente, pero no era una forma de sobrepowerar en una vez, pero por eso no era un tipo de operación de la armada defensiva en 2012. Y decirlo loaning, era una forma de sobrepowerar para que se supplyo fácilmente. No tiene suministras de la acción desde el primer día de la.] No tiene suministras de la acción donde se fue echa y sale a la ruta. No tiene suministras de la acción desde el primer día de la ruta. Esa es la idea, no tiene suministras de la ruta. de la capacidad militar, pero no queriendo los tipos de escenas que hemos visto en el curso de la semana y medio, no queriendo el tipo de disrupción a la vida civil, seguramente no queriendo las evacuaciones de las poblaciones civiles. Quizá este es el camino de encargar el círculo. Y en ese sentido, si la preocupación en Israel hace unos días con el ELE Cohen, sus famosos comentarios en nuestra brisa, que la glacia de la hora, el estado de la glacia de la hora, la oportunidad de la venta es más larga, quizá la manera de expandirlo, irme hasta los comentarios, incluso con Benny Gantz hace unos días, que no habrá una tabla de tiempo, que esto llevará meses y años, pero que sería la intensidad más larga, y quizá en ese sentido, más diplomáticos y sustentables, aunque hay riesgo ahí, también. Incluso, es una batalla long-haul, que puede llevar meses, incluso un año. Y también, puede ser un juego final, que tiene que hacer algo diplomático. Quiero mencionar la ruta de 82, que somos los veteranes de esta guerra. Así que, incluso esto es un escenario que puede ser en la tabla. Y muchas preguntas sobre lo que significa para Yahya Sinwa. Tal vez, quizá, quiera una pasión segura de Garza, quien sabe que algo se discute en la línea. Ahora mismo, más y más detalles se reemplazan sobre las condiciones de capturación. Muchos niños deciden a sus familias lo que se ha engañado por siete semanas, más en este reporte de our Robert Swift. Como los hostes israelíos regresan a casa, las historias de sus días de capturación de capturación han subvención, o los movimientos entre las construcciones bombas están filtrándose. Ellos fueron capturados en las casas para un par de días, y luego, cuando los llevaron a las casas. Emily Han's father ha describido cómo su hija regresó de Garza a fin, palo y creyente que ella había spentado un año dentro de lo que ella refiere a ser el boxe. La parte más desgraciada, parte de la reunión, fue... Era solo mi sueño. Yo tenía que poner mi oreño en sus nubes, así de cerca, y decir, ¿qué dices? Algunos hostes han describido que se han sido tratados sin abusos, después de la inicio violencia brutal de su captura. Otros han hablado de imágenes, retrasos de violencia, y de niños que han sido realizados para ver fotos de los masacores de octubre 7. ¡Eitan, aparentemente! ¡Eitan, aparentemente, ha experienciado horres sobre ellos! Hamas ha pedido a ellos para ver filmes horríficos. Tal vez estoy negrito, pero quería esperarme que se haya sido bien tratado, pero aparentemente no, son monstruos. Como la guerra ha funcionado, condiciones para captives aparecen que se han deteriorado, con la cantidad y variedad de su comida reducida. Y no se ha comido bien, son cosas, son exhaustivas. Hamas ha intentado protegerse bien, lanzando videos de miros y captives que están handiados a la red cross. Pero algunos de los hosteges, incluso en la jurídica, no han jugado con su juego. Un gran camino para la recuperación espera a los que recién regresaron a sus familias y a la frecuencia. No estoy hablando demasiado, pero nos están diciendo algunos detalles que ayudan a ayudar a ellos. Un proceso que, para cada de los retrasos, comienza con una reunión. Mucha pena, mucho tiempo es necesaria. Ahora, nos traemos esta historia. Se han marcado por dos años, los dos son musicas de amor. Yagev Burshtov y Rimon Kursht se abducaron de sus puestos en el 7 de octubre, durante la rampa de Hamas Terra. Rimon fue lanzado de captividad en la noche de tuesday, después de ser capturados por más de 7 semanas por terroristas. Yagev está en captividad. Rimon se ha ubicado y es un heroe israelí. Se ha dado un estrés defiant a un terrorista armado durante el proceso de lanzamiento. Mira a esa face, mira a ese estrés, un estrés defiant, Rimon, llegando a casa. Estamos bienvenido. Moran Betzotayar, aunt de Yagev. Moran, muchas gracias por estar aquí. Podemos imaginar el rango de emociones que tu y tu familia han ido a comenzar. ¿Cómo está Rimon? Primero, muchas gracias por dejarme estar aquí. Bueno, Rimon regresó a la noche de tuesday, tarde a noche, en el hospital, metió a sus padres y su hermana. Relativamente a la situación, se ve bien. Pero, por supuesto, hoy necesitaba pasar algunos exames y luego sabremos mejor la situación física. Ella está hablando, ella está diciendo, ella también conocía a hoy los padres de Yagev y su hermano y hermana. Y también conocía ayer su hija, su hija, Tova. Y ella estaba sorprendida de que Tova recuerda a ella, pero realmente, realmente, recuerda a ella. Y el rango, y con la familia, puedes ver las fotos, y ella está feliz de estar en casa, pero sus primeras palabras fueron, «Bring back Yagev, no podemos dejar Yagev detrás, es parte de mí, es la mitad de mí». Así que, nos urge a combattir y llevar Yagev a casa, lo más rápido posible. Uno puede difícilmente imaginar lo que debe estar pasando, lo que está pasando en su mente. ¿Sabes cuando ella lo vio en qué punto se explica la captividad? ¿Qué podemos decirnos? Puedo decir que en octubre 7, cuando estaban asesinados de la casa en Kibbutz-Nirem, fueron asesinados juntos, y sabemos ahora que fueron, ya sabes, asesinados todo junto de la cara, no dejaron los terroristas separarse. Pero durante la captividad, no sabemos exactamente lo que hará. Lo sabremos mejor mañana, pero sabemos que Yagev está vivo. Hemos escuchado de otras personas que fueron asesinadas en los últimos couple de días. Así que no estamos felices, pero estamos seguros de que tenemos mucho que hacer para llevarlo a casa y estamos seguros de que está vivo, y esto es lo más importante para ella y para nosotros. Hemos escuchado algunos detalles horríficos de los asesinatos que han sido asesinados y obviamente estamos seguros de las sensibilidades alrededor de ellos, pero escuchamos historias sobre niños que están asesinados y personas que están asesinados a la luz ahora porque han spentado mucho tiempo en canales y otros que fueron asesinados a varias localidades. ¿Qué podemos decir sobre donde ella estuvo para estas héroes 7 semanas? En cuanto a lo que sabemos, ella fue asesinada en una de las canales en el suelo y, sí, ella necesitaba todavía para tener la luz del día, ella está todavía en el hospital, todo es muy suave, suave, suave, ella encuentra más gente y entonces, espero, en un par de días ella estará más fuerte y luego podemos empezar a andar afuera y todo eso. También sabemos que ella es muy ella necesita hablar, ella no es un niño, ¿sabes? Ella es 36 años, ella necesita hablar, ella necesita decir, ella quiere conocer a las personas que ella adoran y ella realmente, realmente va a la lucha, pero nosotros damos a ella, a sus padres y a su amor, damos a ella lentamente, lentamente, necesitas adaptarse a la situación, para entender la realidad, no es la misma israel que dejaste en octubre 7, así que, estamos tomando tiempo y su tiempo y queremos que ella sea fuerte y ser un líder como en ese video y para lead todos nosotros hasta que van a regresar. Su video y su look y la forma que ella murió ahí fue iconica, creo que la descripción es so apropiada debido a las escenas que ella está enfrentando ahora, usted habla de ella queriendo hablar y cuando puede imaginar alguien que viene de la actividad queriendo conectarse, como dice ella, ella es un adulto, no una niña, a conectarse con sus amantes nuevamente, ¿qué se conoce sobre lo que sucedió mientras ella estuvo away? Se debe estar arruinando para tener un brief sobre las atrocidades que se deslizaron mientras ella estuviera asalada. Creo que hoy se conoce mejor. Por supuesto, ayer, cuando llegó, ella no sabía mucho, pero hoy ella ya estaba en eso y en la fila y ella su parenta mostró algunas actividades que hicimos durante su tiempo para relicirlos y ella fue muy emocionada y ella fue llenando y ella realmente ella es muy entusiastica en order de empezar a combinar porque realmente es un couple que realmente nunca se separó desde que se maricó y su amor es algo que debería ser debería ser llamada una historia de amor una historia de amor y también con sus partes y la música y todo eso y espero que pronto llegará llegará y y bueno espero no a su previó su vida porque no puede volver a sus puestos ahora pero al menos a estar juntos y a construir algo juntos. Solo para nuestros veloz es el neclado que Moran está referiendo es un neclado que dice traerlos a casa y y mil y mil personas a través del país están usando una parte de la llamada para asegurar que todos los todos ellos niños hombres y mujeres están safely llevados a casa Moran ¿Sabes fue Remorna solo cuando ella estaba en captividad o fue ella con un grupo de otros hostigios? Ella no estaba sola eso por supuesto sabemos algunas personas que regresaron antes de ella y decían que decían que meten ella así que no estaba completamente solo pero por supuesto yo creo lo que escuchamos es que todos ellos el mundo solo tal vez pero ellos felt alone y felt that you know everything is like the little child but also the the adult one they felt that it's not two months almost two months they felt that it's much much longer but I think they are typical Israeli and they have some faith of our country of our army of of the people of Israel that they will never leave somebody behind and I think this is the the courage that we see in all of the kid the hostages when they are coming back they know we will never leave them back leave them behind us and that is something that we keep on hearing again and again also from the families of the hostages how the support then the solidarity everybody wants everyone to come home not just some people not just young people every single hostage abducted on that day needs to get back home you made mention of a life back in the kibbutz obviously that's going to take time to avoid the dog hopefully this beautiful love story will have a happy ending and this couple can be reunited but what does it look like for her to have to see what unfolded on the kibbutzim and what is it going to take for people to genuinely feel safe there again it's going to take a long time About Rimon it's too soon because she really came you know it's less than 24 hours then since she arrived however I think for all those from the kibbutzes and the other cities around it's very difficult but at least what I'm hearing is a lot of courage and a lot of strength and they believe that they can build it again however we need our government and we need the world to understand that Gaza maybe need to be need to be free but they need to be free from Hamas not from Israel because Israel is already outside and we should you know we should have a place that they can live peacefully but surely we need a place and the kibbutzes they need a place to live peacefully and to do and you know to go come back to their love stories and to the agriculture and to the green places that they used to have until the 7th of October just from this conversation and just from seeing the images of Rimon I feel like I know her tell us very briefly a bit about Yaqué what is he like Yaqué is a very clever young man he is very gentle he is a quiet talented musician and he loves people he loves animals and he love Rimon a lot I can feel that from the way you are talking about this couple we can't wait to hear good news that they should be reunited that they should have a beautiful future together with Tova or the other pets that may exist may they have many reasons to play music together we so appreciate you being here Moran Betzotayar speaking to us sharing the story thank you so much and the whole nation is waiting for good news thank you so much for being here thank you very much and bring all of them back home soon certainly is something the whole nation is waiting to see happen thank you very much what a moving moving story a beautiful love story let's hope the ending is a happy one and let's hope that happy ending happens very soon thank you so much again for being here now Noa Argamani was one of scores of people abducted from the Nova Music Festival on the 7th of October she is still being held hostage she is not in the group being released today and her mother Liora Argamani is terminally ill she just wants to see her daughter yes her urgent plea we את this is thank you so much Thank you so much Thank you Ek Tem ف longtime I love you Thank you so much No, no lo acabé de ver. Liora Argimani just wants to see her daughter again. The heartbreak, the heartache, its heart wrenching to run. I think this core belief that Israelis have that nobody would be left behind is very important and we saw it in the testimonies. One of the symbols that the hostages, that the families of the hostages are using is the family of the picture of Rona Rad. Exactly. El pilot que fue en la captividad de Xizbala, la escenulación de Xizbala. En Israel en 1994, yo era suficientemente suficiente para ser el comandante de la unidad que fue enviado por el Chakrabin para hacer todo el camino a Dabaka, en una muy buena operación para Kidna, Mustafa Dirani, que estaba manteniendo Ron Arad. Esto fue en 1994. So Israel también está deseando ir de una manera longa, tomar más riesgos, arreglar soledad, arreglar y pagar precios, si es un problema, para rescatar a las personas. Esto es una cosa que creemos que tenemos que estar en principal de Israel, de Israel, que está en su corazón y que tenemos que mantenerlo. Owen, mientras nuestros rostros están tirados por todas estas familias, esperando por la palabra, y como sabemos, el siguiente grupo de rostros está, por supuesto, llegando a casa pronto. Todavía la pregunta permanece alrededor de la verdad, y si va a ser extendido en la noche, ¿qué es lo más reciente en esa frontera? Right, bien, voy a hacer eso por una manera de respetar, es algo que U.N. Daron ha dicho, todo eso es cierto. Y al mismo tiempo, mirando a la pasada, tenemos que recordar, no solo las vidas y el bienestar de los rostros y los tonelos de Gaza, y hemos escuchado la testimonía sobre eso. Pero Dios forbidir, las personas cuyas vidas serán afectadas, y en algunos casos, las vidas serán perdidas, si Israel hace un error y hace lo que hicieron en 2011 con el Gilad Shalit deal. Una vida fue salvada, una hostia fue salvada, y fue maravillosa y emocionante, pero hay miles de personas probablemente, miles de Israeles, incluyendo 1,200 en octubre, 11 de octubre, 7 de octubre, que directamente o indirectamente han perdido sus vidas porque de eso, estas son las decisiones difíciles, no solo un cliché. Y la definición de una decisión difícil significa que tu corazón es tirada en dos direcciones, que hay dos diferentes setes de historias, y hay dos diferentes setes de criterio que tienen que haber esperado. Yo y yo creo que la vasta mayoría de los de la israelí publicas que han apoyado el diálogo, han feltado que los riesgos que están tomados son manejables en este sentido, y las fotos han sido sobrevuelvas, especialmente en los casos difíciles de los niños, y hay su apoyo sobrevuelvo. No hemos visto pulgos, pero creo que no hemos visto pulgos porque no tenemos que ver pulgos, para entender cómo el diálogo israelí publica se siente sobre este diálogo, y yo voy a llegar a la truza de la extensión en un momento. Pero, Doron, hablaste sobre el hecho de que, como nos movemos de los casos de niños y mujeres, y es problemático de Hamas su propia perspectiva, su propia interés en detenerlos, así que una razón por la que ellos están dispuestos a desplazar, cuándo menos con ellos, a los casos difíciles y los difíciles, que el otro lado tiene que ser tomado y considerado. Como con la truza de la extensión, afortunadamente no estamos en ese punto todavía, pero estamos hablando de ahora en el termo inmediato, como la clátex, a partir de la noche o a partir de las 7 de la mañana, como lo definimos, cuando exactamente esta truza se expiere. Una extensión en el sentido de este diálogo, con lo que hemos sido familiarizados con 10 casajos que se liberan cada día en exchange de 30 palestinos, los priores, las mujeres y las mineras, y un día adicional de una truza, por supuesto, con la humanitaria y la edad de la igaza, y así así. Mira, todavía hay contextos que hemos dicho en Doha, no hay acuerdo, la clara está tirando, pero creo que porque de todo lo que he dicho, porque Hamas parece que haya interés en seguir este avance en el fin de la semana, creo que la mejor clara es que no verá la lucha de la lucha militar en Gaza mañana, que verá, de nuevo, las escenas más felices de la lucha que se liberan mañana, el día siguiente, o el día después. Y por supuesto, la semana siguiente, empezamos a mover a diferentes sets de decisiones y diferentes criterios, tanto para Israel y para Hamas. Y ese día, por supuesto, es lo importante que nos emphasizes, porque no es aún aquí. Just a few seconds left, we'll find our thoughts. I would say a long haul in the battlefield, in diplomacy, in deals of exchange, who knows what's next, but we have to be prepared and prepared to issue the campaign again once we have to and see what's up. Daron Avital, Owen Ultiman, thank you both so much for being here for this Breaking News Edition. We wait for word on what will happen next. It's a wrap for now for this edition of our Breaking News coverage. The sixth group of hostages are heading home soon. Our rolling coverage continues. So make sure you stay tuned for all the latest developments as they happen. Eli Hachenberg is up next. I'm Denise Levine. Thank you for watching. Made for Me, a unique concept in Israel. Custom made men's fashion to your measurements. Made for Me, designer of all your events. Schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il. Made for Me, official dresser of I-24 News. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Israel is at war. Make an investment in Israel bonds. It is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel. Visit israelbonds.com and invest now. In a state of war, families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. A semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas, reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24 únicamente en I-24 News. No sé si aquí en Israel dice que si no hay una lista para mañana, la reacción de los hostes es para ser distribuida, la IDF va a volver a combatir tan tarde como mañana, mañana y como todos estamos esperando. All we can hear are whispers, kids whispering, the Israeli children who went through hell and back, coming back home, from Hamas's vicious hands, are all whispering because the terrorists who held them for long long weeks forbid them to make any noise. So they're still whispering, kids. No daylight, moldy pita bread with sand, murky water, no showers, sleeping vertically. Some forced to watch the videos of the October 7 horrors, kids. And as there are still nearly 160 people in Hamas captivity, the thought of what they're currently going through every hour, every minute, is not letting go. Back here at home, this is the dying wish of Liora Agamani, whose daughter Noah is being held hostage. Liora has fatal cancer and her only desire is to see her daughter one final time. We are all waiting here. And we want to cross now our live, to our 24 News Middle East correspondent, Ariel Osiron, at the ring junction in southern Israel, Ariel. We're still waiting for those hostages to be released. What do we know? What's the latest? Right, Ellie. So the latest is that the convoy appears to be delaying already in the transfer from Hamas to the Red Cross, according to reports in Israeli media, just in the past two minutes. The explanation from the Hamas side is that it's due to technical challenges, but that it will happen and the 10 hostages expected to be released today, five women, five minors will be released later this evening. Obviously a lot of anticipation here in Israel for their arrival. About an hour ago, we saw the convoy carrying Yelena and Irina, who made their way back to Israel before the group of 10 hostages. They passed through us and there was a lot of excitement here in Urim Junction, one of the communities near the Gaza border, while Urim Junction, where I'm standing, was actually a haven for many of the party goers at that Nova Music Festival. They fled to here. So again, we're going to see some source of hope and salvation come from here, Urim Junction, in southern Israel, but obviously waiting with much anticipation. Now we are starting to get reports throughout Israeli media as to the challenging circumstances and conditions that many of these hostages were placed in. For instance, you mentioned the kids that were forced to whisper or the Israeli tai-released hostages saying that Jewish hostages received more severe conditions and more severe treatment by the Hamas captives. Some of them were beaten with electric cables. This is a testimony coming from one of the tai hostages. There were 19 tai hostages released so far. 13 remain and they're still, after today, going to be 25 women and children hostages remaining in addition to 149 following today's 10. Yes, and more and more horrific details on what is unfolding and captivity in the Gaza Strip being released. We will have more on that later on in the program. Thank you very much, I-24 News at Senior Middle East Correspondentary, a lost run for this. And we want to move now to I-24 News Correspondent Zach Anders, at the Shiba Medical Center, awaiting more released. We should get used to this new term, not hostages, but released. We're not quite there yet. Hi, Ella, yes, these freed individuals that are on their way. We're hearing at least four are expected tonight at Shiba Medical Center. This is coming from the hospital director, but that could change. There's so much at play when it comes to evaluating their condition, literally as they're in the vehicles through the crossings on their way to the helicopters that will then transport them by air to hospitals throughout Tel Aviv. Of course, there's hospitals along the route that are on standby in case the conditions of these individuals warrants it. The helicopters, rather, can deviate to several locations in the south, but they do have a larger care team arranged here with a range of specialists that are prepared to address a variety of needs, and so the ultimate goal will be to have them stay overnight here at hospitals in Tel Aviv. We're hearing potentially some of the older individuals that were released are coming our direction. Of course, we're gonna have to wait and see when exactly that does happen, but this is also a children's hospital, and should there be any young individuals, we're seeing, of course, on the list, that it does appear that the younger, on the younger side, individuals will be teenagers, but still, again, the hospitals here are prepared to receive any and everyone. Right, and as we speak, and awaiting more, hopefully many more in the coming days, Zach, what about those who are there physically and mentally as much as we can say, of course? It does appear that for what they've been through their conditions are rather good. The hospital staff here say that almost everyone they've seen has lost at least 10 to 20% of their body weight, that they've been without consistent meals, and the concerns for the hospital, especially on the children's hospital side and the pediatric doctors, is that when kids go a certain stretch of time, of course, these are children, they're growing, they're developing, and if you interrupt that process of regular meals, water, you add on the stress and the emotional toll, that can have serious implications for their development as they age and grow older, so we're seeing, of course, quite a bit of activity as they prepare for this arrival here, and the hospital staff, for what it's worth, are hopeful, they're happy that they get to do their jobs and they're ready for whatever comes their way. Yes, some emotional moments still ahead, and, of course, the tension ahead of the pending release of 10 more hostages. Tonight, thank you very much, Zach Anders, at 24 News Correspondent at the Shiba Medical Center for this, and now our last stop for this part of the show, at 24 News Correspondent at Quiltsedek, at the David Dodd Sea Resort, where thousands of Israeli refugees in their own country, that's the only way to define it, are residing there since October 7th, Nicole, as just said, emotional days for all of us, but more so for them, we're still in the middle of the war, and they're still waiting for any indication of when, how, where they'll be able to go back to some sort of normal routine, if that's even possible. Not only waiting for that, LA, but right now, mainly waiting to see which of their community members might finally return back to them after more than 50 days in Hamas captivity. Specifically, right now, what you're seeing behind me is residents from Quiltsbury. They've been here at this hotel for merely two months now. They don't have a home anymore in the south, so while they're anxiously waiting, watching this screen, their eyes glued to the screen to see any news, to see those first moments when some of these 10 Israeli hostages might finally be tossed over to the Red Cross and finally enter back into Israeli territory. But it comes with a mixed bag of emotions, sadly, because as grateful as they are to hopefully see some of their residents on that screen, they also know that they don't have a home to welcome them back to, that they're coming back here, so many of their community members have been lost, so many of their community members still held in Gaza. And so it truly is not only an anxious waiting period right now, but also a very emotional time. As well, we're seeing a slight glimmer of hope and they want to see more and more people brought home. The harsh reality that they're coming back to is something that these Quilts communities and these community members are certainly, it's difficult for them to try and explain to those hostages that have been kept so far. Right, we don't talk about much, but those hostages were coming back so much catching up to do. So many family and friends that they've lost got turning a situation. Nicole Tzedek and the Dead Sea, thank you very much for this, Nicole. And we want to welcome now here in studio a 24-new senior diplomatic correspondent, Owen Ultriman and Major General, Aitjandango, former coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian territories. Thank you gentlemen, both very much for joining us. Owen, I do want to begin with you because we do know that the war cabinet is set to convene in less than an hour from now, set to discuss an extension and yet the hostages of today are not yet released and the list of the hostages of tomorrow is not yet in. Yeah, welcome to our world, that we've become, yeah, obviously the frustration is shared. I can only imagine how the families feel. Oh look, I think the understanding is that for all the fits and starts that the passage of the hostages today will happen. Although of course you're right, Eileen, pointing out its 10 o'clock local time here in Israel and it hasn't really gotten underway in earnest and that's obviously very concerning. As for the list of hostages tomorrow, to be fair, there's no agreement to extend the truce for tomorrow. So one would imagine those two will have to happen in tandem, right? And that getting the list is part of the, and who is on the list, one would imagine is part of the negotiation. Obviously a negotiation that's going down to the wire depending on how you look at it, this truce either expires in less than two hours from now at midnight local time, or at seven in the morning, which is the time of day where it started on that first Friday, which would give the negotiators a bit more time. Look, again I think the prevailing wisdom, if you just look at the interests of the two sides is that an extension of the current deal, again with the 10 hostages being freed a day in exchange for 30 Palestinian prisoners and with another day of truce with aid going into the strip, that that's an arrangement that both sides seem pleased with, the I think overwhelming part of Israeli public opinion is pleased with this and feels that the risks that Israel is taking are worth those incredible rewards of seeing and we're seeing again, these pictures are the pictures of the crowds in Gaza, maybe orchestrated by Hamas mobbing the hostages, but the happier pictures of actually them being reunited in their families. But I do want us to stay with those images because Major General Adangot, we're seeing those two hostages released earlier tonight and we've seen it as a rising trend, I would say in recent days that they are being released again in visuals that are evidently well orchestrated by Hamas, being brought to the Red Cross surrounded by armed terrorists, but not just that, with an angry or cheering mob, the masses are there. These images are difficult to digest. This is the regular pictures that you see mostly every evening. Look, you see elder ladies over, I think, 80 coming with their pajama and they are surrounded by those terrorists with guns and you see also the little demonstration like theater organized by the public that Hamas is organizing. By the way, I would like to emphasize three things about those two ladies. First, I myself estimate that Hamas will divide between Israelis that are coming like after the asking by Putin or by his people to release them because if you remember at the beginning of this negotiation, the tie came to Teheran and then one special activities by Iran, Hamas, Malaysia and other good countries and they separate because they are completely foreigners. The Russian asked Hamas came an independent delegation from Hamas after what happened on the 7th of October. To Moscow. Set with, to Moscow, set with the high senior officials from Moscow by I think the head of them was Musa Abu-Marzuk if I'm not mistaken. And they deal independently like their identifier welcome country that is coming and now I will show after that meeting that Hamas will make emphasize to show that they did it by themselves to get credit from Russia and by it show. So that is the reason they divide the two hostages that come look at the picture how they almost cannot walking and you see what is around them but this is like a kind of a kind of a step, a welcome step by Hamas towards Russia to get as much as they can get in this kind of theater, tragic theater I may say about this issue and I think the others will join tonight. I myself can set the beginning of this show sitting together that I estimate that we will face the day 7th, 8th on Thursday, Friday y even the 9th and 10th day to complete this kind. My question mark is only on one thing whether I hope that Hamas as all the hostages they refuse to supply names, they refuse to make it from the beginning and I believe that this step of 10 steps of releasing 10 people every day will be over y luego llegará la primera junción de la sensación ¿Qué será la próxima? ¿Puede seguir la guerra? ¿Puede ser presionado en Israel, en Estados Unidos, Qatar, Egypta para seguir intentando llevar algo que conviene Israel para ir con este tipo de releves? Esa es la junción de la sensación y un regreso a este show emocionante. Dice sobre los niños que se senten. Yo diría que es una lluvia silenciosa en estas lluvias. No pude encontrar mejores palabras para definir la lluvia silenciosa. Pero a tu punto, vamos a escuchar a lo que el presidente Benjamín Netanyahu ha dicho hoy sobre lo que hemos podido ver en los próximos días. Más esfuerzos diplomáticos, regresar a la guerra, ambos, vamos a escuchar. Desde el principio de la guerra, he set tres goles, la eliminación de Hamas, la returna de todos nuestros doctores y para asegurar que Gaza no volverá a ser un peligro a Israel. Estos tres goles permanecen en lugar. En la última semana, hemos logrado un gran cumplimiento, la returna de muchos docentes de nuestros doctores. Un mes pasado, habría sonido imaginario, pero hemos logrado. Pero en los últimos días, he escuchado una pregunta. Después de esta fase de regresar a nuestros doctores, es exhausto, ¿verdad Israel volverá a la guerra? Así que mi respuesta es una equivocación, sí. Owen Ultraman, antes de hablar de los dinámicos, de los esfuerzos diplomáticos, quiero cerrar de vuelta a un punto general que hicimos antes. En el otro lado, voy a expresar mi pregunta de esa manera, parece que Hamas, el chistín de la guerra, principalmente, está jugando un juego duro aquí, y no una gran sorpresa, pero en el sentido de que en el otro lado, está mostrando gran control sobre lo que está pasando, tanto en términos de la relevancia de hostia, y también cuando viene a los ordenes de los terroristas en la parte del norte, donde Israel dice que tiene bastante control, pero en el otro lado, está jugando este juego, en el que puede realmente votar para todos los hostias, principalmente, la desagradable saga de la familia de Bebas, que está justificando Israel's heart of port, así que, en most cases, la verdad es probablemente más en el medio, pero ¿qué indicaciones tenemos como para Hamas su control sobre la situación? Bueno, escucha, obviamente, en el parte del norte es mucho más grande, y creo que todos entendieron eso, en el parte del norte, mucho menos, pero, mira, obviamente, lo escribiste, puede ser, por supuesto, una gran dosis de manipulación ahí también, pero, por lo tanto, es concebible, al menos, que hay una medida de verdad, ¿no? Obviamente, Hamas tiene control sobre dos y medio de la Gaza Strip, al menos en términos de geografía, ¿no? Y aún así, los guerras armados en el norte, aparentemente, pero también es posible, sabemos que hay otras facciones en la Gaza Strip que están armadas, y cuando están armadas, tienes la leverage, incluso si Hamas exerce control de todo. Y al menos, a mí, me refiero a Eitan Dango en esto, que Gaza, incluso con Hamas en el ultimo o efectivo control de la territoria, aún tiene subgrupos poderosos que tienen una leverage sobre Hamas, y con la que Hamas necesita trabajar, ¿ok? De nuevo, vimos esto en las fronteras de la pelea, que se sienten en la historia de la historia entre Hamas y Islam y Jihad, por ejemplo. Y incluso en pequeños grupos, como los grupos de Salafi de hace mucho tiempo, ¿no? Que hay actores independientes en la Gaza Strip sobre la que Hamas siempre no exerce control de todo. Y con la que Hamas, en algún nivel, necesita negociar. Así que es al menos concebible que la historia de Yahya Sinwar es decir que tiene algún elemento de la verdad. Ahora, el gobierno israelí, creo que sabemos que están haciendo dos cosas. Número 1, más importante, creo que nuestros servicios inteligentes para todos sus fallos en octubre 7, y entendiendo algunas de las dinámicas en la Gaza, presumably are getting to the bottom of this and presenting, at least with our enclosed doors, an accurate picture as best it can put it together of what the state of play is here, right, and what the balance is between manipulation and truth. And the other thing that Israel is saying publicly and obviously convincingly is at the end of the day, Hamas is held responsible, right? Whatever dynamics there are between Hamas and other groups is Hamas's problem. Israel is negotiating with Hamas. It's not negotiating with Islamic Jihad. It's not negotiating with crime families in Gaza or whoever else. Israel is negotiating with Hamas. And if Hamas wants to enter into a deal with Israel, Hamas has to be able to supply the deliverables. And the deliverables in this case are human beings. And Hamas is responsible for doing what it can to deliver them. And at the end of the day, he can't deliver them. There's going to be no deal, right? If there aren't going to be 10 hostages freed tomorrow, it's reasonable to say there will be no extension of the truth tomorrow. That's the bottom line and either Hamas can deliver them or it can't. And Israel is demanding that Hamas deliver them from within the categories que se han agredido, ¿verdad? Así que, nuevamente, mujeres y niños, porque hay mujeres y niños en el Gaza Strip, muchos de ellos presumen que serán vivos. Yo supongo que incluyen Hamas. Y el gobierno israeliano dice que lo que son las dinámicas internas del Gaza Strip es tu que maneja. Tú vienes a nosotros, o irás a poder a un par de un deal que es, según el barrio, que estuviéramos o no. Y, a ese punto, exactamente, Major General, D'Angotha, y lo que hablaste antes. ¿O cuándo es la estresa según a este acuerdo, según a este deal en el que se fue agredido? Una israeliana hostia, una mujer o un niño, para tres palestinos y hostias para ser lanzados. Si estamos a mover a otros grupos, como los hombres de la edad, los jóvenes, etcétera, los soldados, los soldados, por supuesto, la demanda por Hamas puede cambiar, es decir, más prisoners. Está bien. Este deal ha sido declarado por el potencial de 10 primeros pasos. Para estos 10, para 10 personas, cada vez, tienes que dar algo como 30 personas para lanzarse. 1, 2, 3. Sí, 1, 2, 3. El siguiente paso que creo que ahora están trabajando en ellos también, ya. En mi opinión, ha sido ya en el proceso de discusión. Hay, por supuesto, quién será el siguiente paso. Creo que será de, como se llama, la luz a la dificultad. Es decir, mujeres y luego van los hombres y luego van los soldados, mujeres y hombres, juntos. Y esto será una otra historia. No olvides, en mi opinión, Sinwari no ha llevado lo que va que tiene 30 personas cada noche. De él, el primer objetivo ahora es para quitar la guerra, para completar sus logros, para finalizar con su sueño. Su sueño es para lanzar todos los prisiones de Hamas desde la Jail de Israel. Y para eso, será un aventero con un concierto de lo que hicieron en el principio. En mi opinión, incluso en mi estimación, recuerda, siempre dice, 1, 1, 1, 1. Es que el día fue agredido para lanzarse en el 12 de octubre 2011. Esto es el 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, en mi opinión, que siempre es porque él es el head de los prisiones, este psicológico, un gancho normal, animal, lo que puedes llamar, es correcto, pero no tenemos que hablar de él demasiado. Sabemos que antes de nosotros, él hará otro precio. Y lo más importante para él es que estén en Gaza. Si tenemos una especie de expectación, que en el sábado tendrá un acuerdo, no tendremos que estar ahí. Ahora, con tu permiso, si tenemos tiempo, llegaremos a la junción israelí. ¿Puede ir a Modolaric en estos estados o ir como no estaremos? Con el principal objetivo de destruir la leadership de Hamas y destruir la organización de Hamas, en simples palabras, renovar la guerra, renovar el fuego. Y eso es lo que significa, detrás de lo que significa, la negociación sobre los hosteges. Eso será una junción muy sensativa. Lo siento. Lo siento. Creo que desde la perspectiva diplomática, hay dos diferentes competencias, escuelas de pensamiento. Una escuelas de pensamiento, que ha sido la forma tradicional de la escuelas de pensamiento, durante el primer mes de la guerra o más, es el L.E. Cohen, por supuesto, el relicio de los hosteges, tres minutos, y nos estamos de vuelta. ¡Suscríbete a Israel! Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I24 News. Estamos ahora en momentos muy complejos, en la escuelas de oportunidades, en el frío de la reacción de los hosteges. Vamos a hacer lo que podemos para terminarlo. Pero, juntos con eso, también estamos listos para ir a la escuelas de los hosteges. ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! Vamos a ir a la escuelas de los hosteges en cada momento, incluyendo estos minutos. El estado de Israel es un muy complejo, un gran escuelo de arena con la responsabilidad de mantenernos el proyecto zionista y de forzarnos. Los personas quieren matar, todavía lo hacen. Y no tenemos otra opción. Debemos continuar a la escuelas. ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! ¡Suscríbete a Israel! Están presentando diferentes desafíos médicos y también desafíos psicólogos que estamos atendiendo. Muchos de ellos están expectados a ser realizados en los próximos días a sus lugares de acomodación, excepto uno de ellos que fue requerido más tiempo de tratamiento seguido por la rehabilitación. Estamos evaluando a ellos para la pérdida de peso que es de 10 a 17% para la mayoría de ellos y para las deficiencias que todos están obteniendo suplementos para comenzar y que también están atendidos con los tipos específicos de las deficiencias que tienen. Y vamos a seguirlo. Esto tiene un significado, especialmente en las pediatrías y los consecuencias de una nutrición tan grande para más de 50 días. Y hemos visto muchos momentos en los últimos días que siempre serán agravados en nuestra conciencia. Y esto es uno de ellos este abrazo tan fuerte de Mayansin agravando, agravando sus dos hijas 15 años de edad 80 años de edad los que hicieron antes de esta semana después de 51 días en la agravación y nos... No importa cuántos momentos vi este video sí, lo mezclamos quiero agravarlos cada vez con vosotros y queremos bienvenido ahora, Lihit Dianche Thank you very much for joining us I can only imagine what your sister, you the entire family been through but before I ask you about that how are you Daphne and Ella Hi, good evening Daphne and Ella enjoying the good time with us with the family they are still at the hospital there is a lot of professionals around them and they are surrender with hugs and kisses and love from all the family of course we were waiting for the 55 51 days as you know we were here terrified we were in a horror thinking what is going on with them and we are very, of course we are excited to be in this moment the video that you mentioned before we saw it ongoing ongoing so many times to make sure that it's real before we hug them for the first time, yeah and as we are speaking with you watching this video throughout our conversation and again it really speaks louder than all words a hug of a mother nothing is more powerful than that and yet we are hearing some gut turning details coming out from those who released the freed hostages about what they've been through and I assume it is very hard on all of you whether to ask questions to help Defnein or let them speak when they are ready if and when at all yeah when they will be ready of course they can speak of course and again I assume that you learn as you go whether to try and ask or let them talk on their own what have you been hearing that you would want that you would like to share no pressure of course so yeah this is the point no pressure that's why in our family we decided not to go to this point there is a sorry there is a psychologist who taking care of it and there is doctors physicians and we are the family we are here to love them to hug them to kiss them to wrap them with a lot of glitter and a good future that's why we are focused on this and we live to the professionals to do the job let's say yes and you fulfill your role to love them and to hug them and before we thank you and let you go the families of the hostages becoming a family of their own to an extent in those horrific weeks are staying united in their fight to release all of them and yet it seems as we are the country that is nearing a moment when the ceasefire will end at some point Where are you for this I don't know I'm not from the army but we are definitely now a big family unfortunately we still fighting even if the girls at home we still fighting with all the rest this is a one for all and all for one and we won't stop until Estamos aún con ellos, incluso si los gores están en casa. Estamos aún en la lucha, en la batalla. Una para todos y una para todos. Lee, Zin, Dianto, Ella, y Daphna. Estamos enviando un gran hug desde aquí. Espero que se sienta a todos, como mucho que puedas. Muchas gracias por hablar conmigo. Gracias, gracias. Gracias, bye bye. Sí, muchas de esos momentos emocionales, y, además, muchas más, para venir y, ya mayor general, D'Angot, si estamos circulando de vuelta a lo que está pasando en la lucha, es una lucha. Algualmente, no hay movimiento, o no habrá movimiento en la lucha. Y, ya, exactamente, los soldados están diciendo... Estamos sensando que el Hamas se está preparando para el recuerdo de fuego. Sí, fue esperado. Estás hablando con los soldados, con las botas, que con toda la tensión alrededor de los hosteges, no olvides que militares de soldados están desplazados en todo el área de la parte norte de Gaza. Y están en una lucha de un tipo operacional de defensa, que deberías reaccionar inmediatamente a cada evento. Y, además, tienes que usar un montón de sources de inteligencia para identificar lo que el Hamas está preparando. Porque el Hamas, por supuesto, va a hacer un poco de cosas desde el lado de la terror, desde el lado militar. Primero, vamos a llevar todo el apoyo logístico para el país de la subterránea que tienen, desde el norte hasta el sur. No hay un poco de fuel, por supuesto. No hay un poco de comida. Tienen muchas gracias para la continuación de vivir en otras semanas. Seguramente, están recogiendo inteligencia en la desplazamiento de la IDF. Están estimando lo que será la IDF, el futuro, los pasos. Y están preparando una línea de defensa. Están reaccionando como una armada. Eso es algo que deberíamos entender. Desde el primer momento, estamos peleando contra la armada en el área más complicada para la guerra urbana que puedes planear con la parte del norte de Gaza. Es diferente, por supuesto, en el sur. En el otro lado, vemos que en los últimos dos días, hoy y mañana, vemos dos eventos con el Hamas terrorista. Es como un tipo de examinación de intentar cuidar, tener tensión en una área y hacer cosas en el otro. Esto es algo en los dedos de la IDF y el apoyo que los comandos de la IDF, el Servicio de Seguridad Interes, dieron al cabinet de la guerra para decidir y yo apoyé que Osterges tenga prioridad y ellos van a hacer con las circunstancias. No significa que los planes ofensivos o el nuevo plan ha sido cambiado. Se verán, y se sorprenden. Se verán todos mirando lo que será el final del norte. Tenemos algunos lugares en el norte que deberíamos llevar por el grado. La IDF, el paro, de acuerdo a lo que fue mencionado, es otra historia para el camino militar. Ahí tienes más espacio. No vamos a mover de nuevo, en mi opinión, el civil para otra dirección. Tal vez nos preguntaremos a los refugios en el centro del refugio de Nusrat, Muazi, Burburaj para también mover al norte. Y el Janyones está ahora mirando el capital. El capital. Así que las demandas, las cosas pueden cambiar. La maneuveración puede cambiar. Y puedo decir lo que mencionaste y eres correcto. En mi opinión la tabla de Benny Gantz y el ministro de la Comunidad Elicoen no están presentando. Gantz está buscando una oportunidad inmediata para llevarlo a casa más como podemos. Y sabes que desde el punto de vista militar estás desarrollando un proceso como este. En el principio estará con mucha fuerza. Pero desde el principio decimos para mover Hamas desde Gaza necesitas meses, no only months el main game changer es para mover la leadership y para romper la mayor parte de Hamas como la parte norte es ahora mismo. Es fascinante y un comentario muy importante. Un último muy rápido pensamiento. Una disminución que olvidé de esto para Benny Gantz tal vez son años para destruir Hamas pero tal vez no para las personas viviendo en Baerí. Exacto. O Kvarazza o Sterot. Las personas viviendo en las comunidades como un objetivo sub para la guerra para llevarles las casas para desmentar Hamas y para asegurar que no habrá miedo de la gaza contra Israel y eso significa que las civilizaciones de Israel podrán regresar a la borda y que podamos escuchar lo que la líder superior de Iran no es una ley de la guerra y lo que estoy pidiendo es darles a los zionistas y los juzgos a la tierra. Sí, vivimos en un tiempo y una edad. Estas clarificaciones son actualmente negras. Y un segundo luego por supuesto a la década 7 van a seguir hasta que el dominio americano en el medio-esco es un rato escondido. Duro. Falsamente decían que los zionistas o los juzgos deben ser asociados. No hemos dicho eso. No vamos a dejar a nadie en el mar. Dicimos que la decisión es para los zionistas hacerla. El gobierno electivo por las votaciones de los palestinianos decidirá las personas que están ahí y han venido de otros países. Puede darles a todos a estar en Palestine. Y nos queremos volver ahora a Dr. Ely Karmann asociado a la institución para el terror y la universidad a Dr. Karmann. Muchas gracias por los esfuerzos americanos a Forja New Middle East. Estoy usando sus palabras. No hay mucho room para la interpretación aquí. ¿Está ahí? Buenas noches. Sí, Iran claramente expresa sus deseos y estrategias para muchos años. Entonces, incluso si ahora hay alguna más moderada lenguaje, en realidad vemos que están moviendo en Siria, en Irak y incluso en Faro y Yemen. Entonces, el iraniano es intentar destruir Israel o al menos arreglarla pero sin pagar su precio en su territorio en su más importante estrategia especialmente el proyecto nuclear. Pero hay de nuevo escuchar las palabras de esta noticia, una noticia de Little Satan y Big Satan como Israel y los Estados Unidos lo definen como ser underlined again hablando mucho sobre la dominación americana en el Middle East no solo sobre Israel y con este respeto Dr. Khamon Saudi Arabia que ha estado por mucho tiempo es posible por supuesto es now ofering to invest in Iranian economy to contain its terror activity through its proxies to really throw money at this problem we know that already from March this year there was an agreement sponsored by China by the way which improved greatly the diplomatic relationship between Saudi Arabia and Iran and the one even visits at the highest level but almost parallel the Saudis began the normalization process with Israel and moreover they tried to build the strategic alliance with the United States which would permit them to build a nuclear project on their territory and this worried very much the Iran leadership which attacked personally the Saudi leadership and then you have the attack 7 of October attack by Hamas one of the main goals of this attack clearly from the Hamas point of view but clearly also from the Iranian point of view was to sabotage to derail the normalization process between Israel and the Saudis so I think that what they saw the Saudis especially the intervention of Yemen the Houthis in Yemen firing missiles above almost the Saudi territory and also using Iraqi pro-Iranian militias against Israel but also threatening I think Saudi Arabia they are worried that the conflict with regionalize and they prefer like in the agreement with China to try to assuage a bit the Iranians and find their modus operandi at least until the end of the conflict in Gaza and the solution possibly a positive solution from the Saudi point of view in Gaza itself And Dr. Lokomore I do want to insist on that because the solution or the in between solution Saudi Arabia is coming up with is again to pay Iran to hold back on its terror activity These are economic incentives to regime which is in a very dire situation economically and they think that perhaps this could help at this moment I don't believe that the Iran will change because even after the beginning of the conflict in Gaza Saudi Arabia MBS personally the conference and President Biden declared that immediately after the end of the conflict in Gaza they will re-take the negotiations for the strategic alliance in the United States and also normalization with Israel So the Iranians clearly are very worried about it and the Saudis are trying to find the modus revending on the one hand the United States and Israel and the other hand with the Iranians So they know that economic incentives are very important for the regime Personally I don't think that it would work because the Iranians are now convinced that they are in a very strong position to weaken Israel perhaps if there is no I would say destruction of Hamas in Gaza even to provoke a kind of weakness of the Israel vis-à-vis the other the other enemies especially vis-à-vis Isballah in Lebanon y Dr. Koman before we we let you go U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken will be arriving here in Israel once again he should really buy a new passport issue a new passport rather since the beginning of this war and much talk of course on the day after the American vision is perhaps to get clear but when it comes to Egypt, Saudi Arabia the Jordanian what is their their desire what would they like to see in Gaza I think that the United States President Biden has presented his views in the article in the Washington Post Personally I have been for many years that in my opinion the destruction of Hamas is necessary in order to achieve some kind of expansion of the Parisian authority presence in Gaza in order to stabilize to pacify to develop economically Gaza and then to try to begin some kind of political negotiations between Israel and the Parisian authority I'm not sure that this government is able to do or willing to do this because we had the declarations of I'm Mr. Netanyahu but I know that many in the defense establishment and the political arena think that this is one of the best solutions because otherwise I don't think that we have the possibility or even the resources to control Gaza for many years and to keep everything there working on the civil administrative issues Dr. Ali Kaumont Senior Researcher at the Institute for Counterterrorism and Direct Money University Thank you very much Dr. Kaumont for speaking with us Thank you for coming and we want to show our first pictures of Irina Tati alongside the IDF forces back in Israel to 54 days in captivity and it is an hour till midnight and the release of 10 Israeli hostages tonight Zieta to move forward Hello Ali Israel channel 13 is reporting that an Israeli source says that the 10 hostages are actually in the hands of the Red Cross Ah, alright Great news if that's true and our channel has pushed that Hamas official has said that the release will happen tonight in repeating what Hamas has already said over the course of the night for what it's worth that the delay was because of a quote logistical issue Alright and indeed we're seeing reports that this first transition from Hamas's hands to the Red Cross has been made in those last few minutes meaning those 10 hostages are a route to Israel and on that note we'll take a 3 minute break which will be back at the top of the hour with all the updates from the ground Israel is at war Make an investment in Israel bonds It is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel Visit israelbonds.com and invest now Good evening ladies and gentlemen We see as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well For us staying with us well good news at last the 10 Israeli hostages have been transferred from Hamas's vicious hands to the Red Cross meaning they're one step closer to coming back home here to Israel and we want to turn now live to the ground I-24 news correspondent Zaka enters at the Shiba Medical Center where some of the hostages are set to arrive at the end of it's another long night what can we say Zaka? Hi Ali well we are playing the waiting game so the information that comes through is sparse because the challenge is getting them here they have a lengthy journey to come from the south of Israel to these hospitals in Tel Aviv there are still some of the released from the previous days that are still staying in this hospital from what we've been able to tell they are in good condition good spirits with the exception of I should say this is just all within the backdrop of in the context of what they've been through for what they've been through they are doing considerably well for the most part for the majority of those that have been freed some of them have already been able to be discharged and be with their families and in their homes in more familiar environments but it is or rather I should backtrack a little bit not in their homes but more or less with family and other places Home is where your heart is at as we all know and their family members of course this is the home that they were waiting for and we are seeing those images of those helicopters that are ready to go when given the order at the Sheba Medical Center and Zack you've been out in the field for the last several days and all those days when hostages have been released walk us through those stages in the process now the hostages are in the hands of the Red Cross what is next and how many stops in the way until they get to you to home, to the family it is quite a few steps it does involve let's start from the beginning when they're in the Red Cross's hands and they're in Southern Gaza they transit to the Rafa crossing where they are presented to essentially the Egyptian authorities who are in control of the crossing and then that's after they're threw into Egypt they're handed over to the Israelis in the IDF who begin a very quick journey rather along a dirt road essentially that runs the length of the border fence crossing the Karam Shalom crossing at that point a determination will be made whether or not to extricate them via helicopter from there or to continue that journey by van and it's dependent on their condition their health there's already medical professionals that will be with them from the moment they're exchanged into Israeli hands and they'll start that assessment right away they'll know that if something is someone is in dire need of medical attention and that helicopter can take them to hospitals potentially even closer to Southern Israel but Sheva's on standby there are hospitals all along the flight path that are on standby prepared in case anything happens but here is the area where they have the specialists and a large medical team here in Tel Aviv so they do want to eventually make their way work their way up to this location so that they can stay overnight there's no timetable for how long the hospital is willing to keep them however long that may need to be and it's those specialists that will finally get a chance to do more in depth analysis tests, blood work the sorts of things that they won't get right away but they will over the course of their hospital stay and that's all precautionary for the most part but it could be necessary it really is all just dependent on how they're presented what is their condition the moment that they arrive in Israeli hands so still some way to go when yet compared to what they've been through in those past 54 days just the fact that they're on Israeli soil shortly we hope in Israeli hands is everything Zac Anders at the Shiba Medical Center thank you very much for this back here in studio with Owen Alterman at 24 News a senior diplomatica correspondent and major general Eitan Dangot gentlemen again we are receiving those good news that were one step ahead in this process and yet I must citing logistical issues while discussing tomorrow and potentially another extension and potentially even a new deal how can you negotiate with a partner that is so so shady look I think there's a bigger issue frankly than the delays in the release of the hostages and a bigger issue than the violations of the ceasefire and that's issue visits by the Red Cross and an idea that we first heard at this table in the studio from Eitan Dangot the Israeli government has said including Prime Minister Netanyahu reading from what he said was the text of the agreement that it is part of this agreement that the Red Cross will visit all of the hostages who are not being released in my opinion if this is part of the agreement Hamas has said it's not there are so many misunderstandings here almost I've said this before I must lead someone to believe that not all the terms were firmed up there wasn't a full meeting of the minds there were some that were soft understanding speculation but if this is part of the agreement this is a material clause of the agreement this is an important part of the agreement this is an important part of the agreement for reasons that are extremely obvious it would enable Israel presumably to know which hostages are alive and which are no longer with us and critically important piece of information for understanding what comes next it would get medicine asperately needed potentially right we saw the condition of El Mavra Ham in the medical care city thank God our condition is improving and just imagine what it would mean for the morale of the hostages themselves to be visited by someone from the Red Cross we're learning more about the conditions and we're learning more about the physical and mental conditions there what you hear is the opposite side of what you expect so one thing is clear the Red Cross is one way ticket only serving those who have to move from Israel and not give anything to the people that belong to Israeli nation it's not from now it is for a longer fears I think in this activity we are facing the real face of the Red Cross this is not international organization this is organization who sponsored by the third world countries by the rich countries that support and fulfill a mission for themselves and not for us it's not equal organization so don't have any more expectations from them even though we have to demand what to do maybe I will surprise you but that's the thing the issue is not the Red Cross the address here is the Israeli government which is not enforcing the agreement that it said it signed and of which Hamas is in a parent material breach I might tell you that in the end the demons are exist I've been there in this circle it's not even I'm not blamed the Israeli government because in this kind of forest when you are looking about the road that you bring you from one side to the outside of this darkness of this forest you have to do things that even you pay with ok you reduce but never leave your demons because one day they will have to pay for what they did I mean for the Red Cross according to the international community so it's not a failure it is a demand but at the end as Benny Gantz said you are in a very a timetable that you can pay a price of losing the people and this is the most important thing secondly if you ask me about the technical problems today I'm not surprising in my opinion even earlier I can estimate that at the end of the eight day at the end of the ten day Hamas will fulfill mostly most of the agreement the question mark now there is a symbol the Bebas family the baby his brother the parents that we are looking to see and you just imagine a baby of eleven or ten months that is now two months in most important time of his life to develop to exist I'm not know what's going there Hamas is trying perhaps because they became such a symbol and their family members who are here in Israel talked about it earlier today that perhaps because they became such a symbol it is working the opposite of their benefit in this respect and Hamas is keeping that I hope but at the end I hope to see them in Israel of course and this is the main question with whom we are dealing secondly in my opinion there was also two areas when the two women were released and where the other delegation or the ten that are releasing from Rafach one thing on Rafach when you are coming there is a new kind of thing that has been developed the last days the demonstration by the Palestinian civilians who are running after the car throwing stones of the hostages on the way to fight them and on the way now between Hanyunas to Rafach gate something like 20 minutes I hope it is passing safely as happened in the last days and from Rafach to Kerem Shalom entering to Israel it's something like 7 to 8 minutes I know the way I know the area it's on the other side of the Egyptian side and there will be a very clear decision whether to take them off by helicopters or to bring them to another they will be in Israel in I hope the health situation I would like also to emphasize we see every night the completely wonderful organization that start from heart and professionality in the hospitals with their force you don't see one meter that you can photograph people and damage their privacy it's really something that we have to be proud of no, the health sector by all accounts has really mobilized in an impressive way absolutely and to that point exactly let's cross now live to a 24 news Middle East correspondent Ariel Osaron at the Sad Junction in southern Israel a route one stop on the route that the hostages are set to go through Ariel what do we know the latest updates rather from a few minutes ago that they have been transferred to the Red Cross do we know how close they are to move to to get to the Rafa crossing right Ariel so after hours of delay and after which Hamas explained was due to technical difficulties IDF issuing a statement two minutes ago confirming that according to its knowledge the ten hostages expected to be released today five minors five women have been handed over to the Red Cross and are making their way to Israeli territory now in terms of the timeline we can compare this to the the two women who were released earlier this evening so we're talking about another hour, hour and a half until they're expected to pass here in Urim Junction on their way T'chatzarim Air Base from there they will make their ways to hospitals en Israel where they will be receiving a second medical evaluation after the one carried out at T'chatzarim Air Base but also and importantly as well they will finally be able to be reunited with their families yes and we also know that for foreign nationals have been released as well again separately from the deal with Israel but we are of course welcoming every person who is being released from the monstrous hands of Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip and they too are of course receiving close medical and mental care here in Israel as soon as they are out are we also on the Israeli War Cabinet as convening as we speak discussing not just the potential extension of the hostage deal of the ceasefire but also what it would mean to go back to action on the ground look Ellie I don't want to be suspenseful but in 47 minutes the ceasefire will have expired and Israel and Hamas are working in uncharted territory there still isn't a deal to extend the ceasefire agreement according to the Hamas official talking to Qatari media negotiations in Doha to extend this ceasefire are still ongoing but we're approaching the midnight hour and into uncharted territory and unfortunately from previous experience a lot of things can go wrong in that time and so I know the IDF says it's on high alert also the command for attacking if necessary beginning tomorrow have been approved there's above our heads we hear the buzz of Israeli jets and choppers all the evening and so the IDF is indeed showing that it is prepared to re-engage tomorrow as soon as tomorrow if necessary but to the best of our knowledge negotiations and Qatar continue to extend this ceasefire potentially another day or two we'll just you know the clock is ticking for tonight the clock is ticking and yet as our Owen Alterman suggested earlier there is a question here and perhaps a a maneuverability range here whether it's midnight or 7 a.m. the deal expires so perhaps some more time to pursue more hostage release in the coming days Ariel also on I-24 news senior middle east correspondent thank you very much for this and we want to turn now to Dr. Didi Maiman Khan clinical psychologist trauma specialist humanitarian aid intervention aid intervention rather founder and CEO of Kuchni and also an international specialist professional advisor for Israel the international aid organization thank you very much Dr. Maiman Khan for joining us well earlier on the program we discussed we were talking to an aunt of two girls who have been released earlier this week from captivity the Fnan el alkayam and when we asked them her rather how the family is coping with the situation what are they doing in order to try and get them to talk or rather to help them vent or rather let them be and speak at their own time she said well there are professionals to do that family where their family and our role is to surround them with love to give them a hug and to reassure and to reassure them and I have to say Dr. Maiman Khan it makes so much sense absolutely I agree with you social support is absolutely essential and is one of the protective factors against developing a more severe of trauma later on and it's extremely important of course having said that as well that many of the hostages when they come back they are completely overwhelmed with all kinds of stimulation such as light sound and human touch and some people who may have craved that human touch very much might find themselves ironically needing to avoid human touch and go into themselves and isolate themselves but every case unto itself and every person is completely different Yes and Dr. Maiman Khan it was just clear for publications the list of those who are on their way here back home from the Gaza Strip to Israel so if you stay with us and I will just read out the names of again 10 more Israelis making their way back home 13 year old Gali Troshensky 16 year old Amit Shani 17 year old Ofir Angol 18 year old Liam Or 18 year old Itair Regev whose sister was released earlier Yarden Roman 36 year old Moran Stella Yenai 40 year old 49 year old Lyatatsili and Araya Rotem 54 year old she's the mother of Hila Rotem who was released earlier as well without her mother last but definitely not least 57 year old Razben Ami and this list is of course joining Irina Tati 73 year old Irina Tati and 50 year old Yelena Topanov were released earlier tonight so all of them are on their way back home currently in the hands of the Red Cross a route to Israel and we will keep you posted on that of course back with a doctor Maiman Khan well obviously there are different cases as you've illustrated different needs hence a different modus operandi with adults with children and perhaps one of the most chilling stories that we've heard and we've opened our program with it is that the kids who were released are all whispering and this brings me to ask is to work with them about forgetting the fear or learning to live with it well the work with traumatized people is helping them to cope with the fear if we're talking about the symptom of fear is one of the many symptoms that you can have and luckily there are many evidence based interventions that can help traumatized people overcome or learn to deal with the fear that they have this can take a very long time and a lot of patients is needed but it is possible as we are waiting for 10 more hostages to get back home I assume that there is this initial adrenaline rush coming back seeing everyone getting this warmer than warm embrace of course and then at some point reality hits to an extent for the hostages for their families how will the coming weeks coming months going to look like well first of all luckily we have no precedence in the literature for hostages who are children and the way that the children and adults are going to cope in the months and years to come is going to very much depend on a large variety of factors many of them before they were taken hostages might have witnessed or experienced real health such as death of family members in front of them or seeing family members taken off separately as hostages some will not have seen that will have come back and with all of the elation and delight will all of a sudden have learned about what has been going on since they were gone perhaps the death of a family member like we've seen many times knowing that loved ones are still hostages as well as not coming home most people have lost their homes it's trauma upon trauma in the fact that the trauma is not over we are still in a state of national mourning, national trauma with many many unknowns Right and in this respect before we let you go Dr. Maiman Khan you know in the world of rehab or detox there are certain time frames or milestones you're powering through and moving on to the next stage X days for the body to cleanse X days to fortify new habits etc Is it the same when it comes to the process of dealing with trauma? Well to an extent initially there will be the initial shock reactions and there will be the first few weeks of watching and waiting what happens but generally speaking it is not linear each person according to their own pace and everyone needs much patience love and care to get back into their lives to gain control and to get back into the land to get back into living their lives and this will be a different process for everyone there's no clear rules some people will experience symptoms very early on some people will be okay but might experience them later and some people majority of people the literature has shown and we know and we hope will be okay they will experience distress in the beginning for a long time but with time they will be able to have an innate ability to heal from their trauma with psychological care and with social structures in place that help them to achieve this Hang on to this to the optimism that is also very necessary nowadays Dr. Didi I'm in con professional advisor for Israel the international aid organization of course a clinical psychologist and trauma specialist and humanitarian at an intervention thank you very much for speaking with us back here in studio with Owen Altman, major general Aitana Dangot reports in Egypt the security personnel there is ready to welcome the 10 hostages then Israeli hostages and four Thai hostages from the Red Cross it seems that we're once again back on the right track yes and I'm saying again nobody make anything of surprise we have to be ready all the time of this kind of Hamas we making this kind of waiting or changing and they claim it's technique at the end I know listen we are talking about Hamas as a loss of price and we have to understand it Hamas is in a bad shift with all it's around that Israel didn't complete the mission yes we are already at the beginning of our maneuvering but Hamas understands from the kind of the maneuvering that this time Israel is really going to be direct which is goal we estimate if it continues before it was stopping we would be in a different situation they need that time they need to stop because for them is linaric yes or no for their future so I believe that in this kind of circumstances what is the continuating we can estimate that will be the ninth and the ten days I think so after the seven and the eight the main important thing of decision for the Israeli war cabinet it will be very difficult with every way and another point we didn't raise it here now what will be in the north as in the south what will be the condition under such kind of agreement to move back Hezbollah from the fence northern to the Littani and another thing pay attention the West Bank is bubbling and we are working 24 hours there in order to prevent terror activities until now with a lot of success but there is but what will be the Israeli policy to the Palestinian authorities not to Mahmoud Abbas which is failed in his mission under his statement and what will be the situation there it's also a great meaning this is an agreement that Hamas in particular wanted to keep that's a sentence basically I think what Atan was trying to say and that Israel wanted to keep for its own reasons as well I agree I think we're headed toward an extension by the way my reading at least of the government decision is that after Saturday you have to actually come back to that full set of 30 plus government ministers there may be another way of reading it where you can get a few more days but once we get to that point that really is decision time for the war cabinet yet so tomorrow it's another crucial day indeed and as 10 more Israeli hostages and 4 Thai hostages are making the way back to Israel as we speak we want to leave you with images that will make you tear but the good kind we promise more and more families reuniting as their loved ones are coming back from Hamas