 Boom! What's up fam? Anthony Johnson here today co-founder of the red man group CEO 21 studios founder of the 21 convention 22 convention 21 university 10,000 other things on the internet Founder, of course make one the great again make one the virgins again lately is the new motto Today an episode 142 of the red man group. I'm gonna be talking with a special guest new Guests to the red man group and a new confirmed speaker for the 21 convention 15 year anniversary Going on in Orlando, Florida this October 21st and 24th in Orlando 15 year anniversary It's gonna be fucking awesome go to meet them there But on today's episode of the red man group we're gonna be talking about his work as an artist and more generally We're talking about philosophy art and masculinity itself now. They're all related interconnected and they can make your life better as a man He's like he's had a wild ride himself as an artist over the past years in America as the culture war has intensified and polarized and all that I recently saw him tea on JLP. Jesse Peterson's fall in state show all kinds of fun stuff Anyway, without further ado, please let me welcome for the first time ever to the red man group. Mr. Arthur Kwan Lee Boom. What's up, man? Thanks for having me my friend Yeah, I'm good. I'm happy to talk to you man. This is the first time we've had to ever made a little chat Recently Sean Smith, you know little friend speaker of 21 convention recommended you for the event and We talked about that and got that set up like I mentioned and later. We'll do a full announcement But I really appreciate you speaking at that, you know coming up later this year And of course, I was like, I'm gonna bring you on the red man group to talk about an unusual topic in the man is fair It's art and it's unusual anyone only talks about that outside of maybe Jack Donovan and Tanner Guzzi and a few others And a Goldman to a good friend of mine. He actually was looking at your work yesterday online. I showed it to him Beautiful man. So I mean, you know, I one of my things I want to do immediately here is for your audiences We need to remove the elitist bubble that makes people feel that art is a pretentious thing because the reality is That is actually due to post-modernism and the feminist doctrine because all women are essentially leading the elders today They should look at the history of all the masterpieces and essentially the greatest triumphs of art. It was when men were in charge They were the patrons. They were all the gatekeepers. They were the ones who were in charge of what was Who is going to get all the funding and who is going to get all the spotlight for art today and I'm back in a day and what's happened now is Rather than it just being a direct experience, you know, to your common sense where you can experience. It's this very cerebral Relative world where it's a social justice plateau basically Yeah, so basically like all this woke garbage is infected the field of art as well And I'm fully aware of this like I've studied one of my I'm not like I'm an amateur You know philosopher and comes to art, but I respect it as a branch of philosophy One of my favorite books from iron rand the romantic manifesto and she vicious viciously or ferociously defended art and as a branch of philosophy and it's useful and it's to life human life And how positive it is for us and how in her attack it is by these these fucking weirdos Even back in her day in the 1950s and 60s and stuff. She saw all this coming And I think she would love the work that you do and defend it philosophically, you know to the death I think so, you know iron rand actually talked about this that the ancients they regarded reason Good truth, but also in addition to those three was beauty And there were aesthetic standards associated with it the Greeks understood this very clearly and what's what's come to be is We live in such a Time where decadence is so normalized and there's a lack of reverence, right? It's a very reverent time and what's what's coupled with that is the art of suffering, you know How many times have you gone into a gallery and you thought what the hell is this? Like what am I looking at right? And that is the left as their aesthetic standards because you know, it's um It's aesthetic relativity versus universal standards and men we require discipline Pedagogical experience and we need we need that right of passage and what happens is visually that takes form with classical standards and what's to come to be right now is this um It's basically an extension of a political tool the gallery seen today, which is why I've been um pretty controversial figure in the New York City art market Yeah, talk to me about what happened there and then after that I want to get into your history with finding the Manisphere how you found Sean Smith and everything like that. What exactly happened and well, let me say this You've been an artist for how long now a painter I've been working the gallery sort of for 10 years Okay, I was gonna ask you what you thought about the experience in the 2000s versus 2010s, but More specifically, I guess focus on like what exactly happened like you had a pretty big You were very well known on what you did and then it kind of all fell apart when you came out of the closet as a Trump supporter, right? Yes, so I was um Getting look let me just say I had no reason to speak up You know, I was I was doing financially pretty well, too Just being quiet going into studio producing This caliber of work dedicating my my life's work, right? I'm in the studio Basically all hours of the day, so I'm producing this standard of excellence um And I didn't have to speak up, but I think what I've come to see is that You know, I just got so fed up with like my my couple bullshit got so overflowed essentially where this anti masculinity this anti white white men Anti patriotism all of the stuff that I didn't believe in so I was Essentially being a beta male Doing social camouflage keeping my mouth shut working with this elitist group, you know my mouth shut I'm I'm with I'm hanging out with all these critics and then all these rich people Quiet, you know, I'm not going to show them because if they knew who I really was I'd be ousted And I had that feeling but it got to the point where I was already getting shit from critics for painting What I'm known for when what I'm known for is resurfacing traditionality and masculinity, you know I use a lot of religious iconography because god is a masculine force, right? So I'm always painting these kind of Um spiritual imagery. So that already was making people critique art from audio As you speak I'm gonna actually scroll through some of your artworks here at the ebb and your website These are really interesting, man. I was really impressed and one of them, of course, we used for the red man group These are pretty intense, man I just like the ones with uh, I mean they keep going and going. There's a lion one here That's fucking savage just one's cool as fuck. Yeah, I'm doing a event with that painting with green berets Um, uh in july Yeah, this is uh, I have no experience designing this kind of art men But I I love creating beautiful things myself in the way that I do I'm obviously a big fan of Steve Jobs and you know design and these things And I'm super focused on what I do as a entrepreneur conventions videos and things like this But being able to see this is really reminds me of goldman. I leashed a lot a good friend of mine He's a photographer and I'm a painter, but Yeah, so let's back up a second Talk to me about well first of all you mentioned the hatred of white people or the white men So as an asian american so to speak you consider yourself a white guy now because lately They've been trying to they've been trying to lump the white the asian guys in with the white guys Which is pretty well, you know, um, uh, I was on the fall and say to you with reverend justly peterson and um, who's an amazing person by the way, and and I love this Lecture at 20 convention when he went on the whole notion of uh, You know, I've been getting called a white adjacent by some of these people. It's it's it's all stupid man, and it's I mean, I'm like when the whole stop asian hate thing came up um, I very Quickly said to my following that Why is it that whites? I mean blacks assaulting asians based on race Is white supremacy right that doesn't make sense and I basically made that clear And I got a lot of hate because what they're trying to do is they're trying to continue this divide and conquer um, you know this ideog and I don't stand for that man. Like my my my father is a rooftop korean Yeah, he so there's a generation war happening right now with the leftists that are asian american Talking to the older generation the older generation they used to say when we come to this country legally We're gonna become republicans They used to all say that and now they're looking at the spoiled kids acting like brats on the streets Just like when in northern brooklyn my studio is in woolly bird right in northern brooklyn not too far from here When the george florid rice happened I went out to the street just to you know just to have a look it's not that far from where I work and it's a bunch of spoiled white liberals saying black lives matter now and then I said on reverend peterson's show this is The modern blackface They're using black. Yeah, because it is and what happened here is that's what got me so aliased by Another two galleries. I was working with and I'm okay with that because you know what? The man who speaks the truth is a majority I don't like all sounding father But thomas jefferson said that the man who speaks the truth and the fearless in that is a majority And it's such a force to be reckoned with because I do believe that You know I used to have a studio in adis morgan Which is directly in the line of the woman's march in dc and I remember watching all these angry bitter lesbianic women Ranting and raving and and all this hate right I had to write down lesbianic. I think I think we just made a word up. I guess Hey, um ad libs I was looking out the window um at the end and You know the next day I go back to work in my studio and what do they do? They just cause trouble some property damage and nothing changes, but if a fraction of men got together This is what causes revolutions. That's right. So so my feeling the whole time was like like Men have to step up and the reason why I spoke out and I really I did not have to man Like I could have just kept my mouth shut and have a career as a painter, but I realized you know what? I'm hated for who I am in this Um in the in this art sphere, right and then when I was public about my support of a 45th president It's pretty much game over, right? Yeah, that's really that's really sad because it's like I mean I get it. It's just ridiculous You're getting kicked out of these these art galleries and stuff and you're you're suffering financially from it as a direct result of this cancel culture is what it is That's terrible, man, but I feel like You know what? This is why I appreciate guys like you, you know, because what what what's your listen? It's one thing to be hated, right? And I think as I think you and I We know how to endure that and lean into the hate, but I think it's quite another thing. Yeah It's another thing to be hated and poor Right and this is what this is what I'm right now in a transition phase where I didn't know this my friend, but Many of my collectors actually They're already actively with the manager And I was like, there's a reason for this because I'm producing work that I mean all my work is essentially collected by alchemy You know some MMA guys some pagers a lot of betters, by the way I'm like, there's a reason for this right because I'm not putting a tap on an antique up and calling it art Like I'm painting master in the shit and the reality is masculinity is the force that produces masterpieces That's another thing. It does not dare you. How dare you say? He builds beautiful art. Oh my god, dude. We're all just people bro. We're all just people dude. Why do you gotta fucking hate, man? What about the other what about the other 500 genders, dude? You're not even paying attention to them. Um, I'm an apple Let's be a secondary You said um, you got kicked out of art galleries for your your vocal support eventually a 45th president You didn't need to do that. I understand that I'm glad that you did You spoke up and spoke your truth and you face the consequences for it But the audience who doesn't isn't familiar with art galleries and these things like I've been to a few You know, especially in european stuff because I figured they'd be better in poland than they would in america And I was right the ones in like mammy's suck the ones in warsop or crack out poland I went to the soul museums art gallery and stuff is fucking awesome But the polish people are very savage. They've been through a lot of trauma for centuries including throughout the last century So it was I think because of that it really fuels their more They're basically more masculine healthier culture that has healthier art. It still has a higher respect for it Yeah, but anyway for the people who don't don't go to these things often including myself barely What does it mean to get kicked out of an art gallery? What are the exact consequences and how does that work in your industry? So, um What you're saying is this is important because most people like the art gallery world It's it's very niche in a way, you know, most people, you know It's not at the forefront of an artistic medium. It's not stand-up comedy. It's not, you know, it's not hip-hop You know, we're like mainstream music or hollywood. It's It's um, there's so much money going through it but the fame and and and the status of it is not in the in the face value part of the culture and What happens is it's just the way I was I also essentially were these weird conversations where the Where they're almost they're not going to say you are a Donald Trump supporter. You are a conservative They'll kind of wrap it with this package up We don't think you fit the the roster of black excellence or like, I don't know like some shit like that It's always it's always something like that. Like like we're going in this direction we're trying to highlight this and look that's okay, you know, it's fine, but um Essentially, I'm just losing my my partnerships with these art dealers. That's really what it boils down to So, you know before I spoke my mind And I set up for my fellow Americans and in this case white Americans It's not whoever is the one getting hated. I'm going to speak my mind You know what I mean? I don't care. It's just is what it is and I was saying from my fellow Americans as far as I saw it but before I did that You know, I was having multiple shows a year And it was and and again, I have um, but but again, you know what? I'm ready to I'd rather just cut off the middleman grind to figure out my own way because I'm at this point where You need to today become uncancelable. You know what I mean? Like that's just a reality because The reality man The reality of everyone listening right now here is a society is in two different tribes called tribalism I don't care what you want to say but the polarity is desperate. There's so much that is those who Actually want to want a civil society And stand up for what's right, you know, and we're willing to have a discussion because language is the key to civil society It's the antithetical side to violence and then the other side if you disagree with them Then they don't want to hear it. That's all it is right now. They're barbarians Yeah And I can keep my mouth shut Anthony and be with the barbarians and they'll keep giving me money Right, but then I'll lose my soul You know and at the end of the day if you are a good artist, this is a deeper point if you truly are an artist You are in many ways Religious You know, and I know you're 80s, but you know what I mean by religious Oh, I know I know exactly. Yeah, I ran directly address this in the fountainhead for her hero of Howard work the architect Are you familiar with the fountainhead? Have you read it? Oh, yeah, my actually my my dentist gave me this We always have when I'm waiting when I'm waiting for him. We're always No, he's he's he's a base He's a base alpha male that can't say anything based alpha male I didn't know that but in that industry apparently you can't speak your mind too But it's probably all across the board at this point, right? Yeah but um, yes, so I think that a true artist art and religion if you're truly making stellar work Right, not from ideological lens not from the postmodern universities that are that are kind of vetting all these Uh giving all these bachelor master fine art degrees to all these women, which is like 80 percent right now If you're making work that is not based on any of these fake pillars It is going to be religious. You know, I I always say that The best art Can be defined by communication with the unconscious by excavating the archetypal or symbolic That is the best art Because that art it doesn't matter about your economic background your education It hits you because it's you know, I mean, it's like it's like a speaker is able to just Linguistically get you going in your gut, right? Same idea with that works visually It's very core to the soul is what you're saying. I think I get it. Yeah This is powerful, man. This is powerfully Yeah, this is uh, these are all things that I ran would talk about as well You know, especially you mentioned earlier, you know putting the fucking tin cup or something as art Oh stupid fucking nonsense Yeah, I can only imagine the dumb art you've seen in these art galleries like stupid shit like that, right? Like loads of it Loads of it loads of it loads of it, you know, uh loads of trash Loads of actual loads of trash, you know, you have to ask yourself guys like how did a Banana duct tape duct tape to a wall titled the comedian Sell for 125 thousand dollars at art basil in 2019. How does that happen? How does that happen, right? You know, that happens because the russians say a fish lost from the head down and what's happening right now is you know it's it's Oh my god, I my friends sent me this picture. You know what I'm gonna use this I'm gonna use this for um The lecture this is a great idea. But my friend sent me a picture of this this, uh Just fat a modern family picture and it's basically A trans the pregnant man who's really a woman and then the woman who is now a man Hugging it's you know, I'm saying it's one of those things um And I looked at that in comparison to a classic photo of a nuclear attack family, which is really It's it's crazy. The reason why art is suffering Actually, it's the reason why masculinity is offering which is connected to the fact that fatherhood is suffering because god is This is all because the death of god The death of god means the removal of fathers and the removal of fathers means the replacement of the state backed up by academia and the media and This is this is why art is suffering because the gatekeepers in the art world now are backed by the universities And it's funny because the frankfurt school everyone talks about this John um John murphy john f murphy you wrote marce uh a paper on marces aesthetics and all these art university professors basically use that as their foundation and The idea was that art should not just be something where they're exploring beauty and and trying to Learn from the masters now. It's this thing where ideal art is a political tool That it can allocate resources and promote this with the average The average man and the average american for example Doesn't understand like how important these issues are and they the fact that these universities and these communists They weave their way into different parts of culture It's not just big corporations like disney and all this other BLM crap Or you know this woke crap it also gets into the art galleries individual artists like you They're strangling the men and the artists the masculine men like you that are actually going to build works of art That could be famous not just for Not just not just locally where you live or even you know, whatever right now It could be 100 years from now A man of pain you create not could be valued 500 years from now That's all you fucking know and they're trying to like to me. That's what they're trying to kill off like the really I just you know, I ran as a famous for saying in her book the romantic romantic manifesto Art is fuel for man's soul It's a quote I'll never forget because it snapped it clicked for me why art is so important Like why I love, you know, various movies and books have grown up and stuff You know works of art fiction, you know, why was it is so impactful to me? Why was it so motivational and influential? How did it in fact Influence my thinking in ways I realized and didn't realize unconsciously, you know And that was what triggered me to really care about art because before that I had much more like you're saying right The average guy doesn't really care about art. Like why is it important? It's artsy fartsy bullshit That's all a bunch of nonsense. I really love what you do and respect it Let's actually take a look at some of the paintings here. I want to talk about these They don't have on your site So let's go to the my favorite one. So far one of the favorites lion What is the backstory on this what inspired this it's called kingdom come looks like right this this painting is um, so um, this was like a semi commission actually this specific painting and I'm going to be doing a unveiling this in person with um special forces green berets at my at my regular go to cigar club in Alexandria and um You know, that's all these blue leaves of tobacco leaves because these guys you love to smoke and they love to you know, they love to um You know kind of rush respect to that and you know, there's raising at the flag in the background trying to sort of stack This these are all everything I do is it is masculinity It really is because anything that under emphasize I sort of over emphasize it as a sort of correction And a real artist should be doing that, you know, that's why actually um, you and I are the counterculture, right? Yep, that's at the end of the day, you know, you're healing you're healing is what you're doing a culture that's sick Oh 100% man And it's funny because the work you're looking at right in front of you now something like this I'll be showing in the gallery and people will be looking at it admiring and I would I would have hundreds of foot traffic You know constantly every day inside these gallery spaces But once you're vocal about it, it shows you the power of a man speaking They don't hear it because just the image it's still open to interpretation But I mean, I'm pretty bold. It's pretty obvious when I'm trying to know it, right? I see hang on here's what I see this is a this is a No vice of no experience rating art. I see an alpha male fucking lion I see these very cool These you know leaves or plants in the background and I see a patriotic, uh, you know the raising of the flag for Um, he would what was the fucking island Iwo Jima, right? There's a thing My history. I'm not history about the other but this is this is powerful This this reeks to me screams of patriotism and masculinity And I don't see that that's what this painting is about Yeah, fuck. Yeah It's uh, it feels bold and it does feel masculine looking at it Yeah, especially the way the color is interacting man like this this uh contrast like this Yeah, if you would describe my paintings, um, even You see multiple, um List of my works. It's really I will show intensity And boldness and masculinity because those are the things that they don't want people to do today And that's why I'm like like if you really anyone who here is a creative and actually as an artist too You're supposed to push back against the dominant narrative That's the thing. Let's let's take out the big picture of of what is right Just as an artist as a creative you're supposed to push back against, um, the authority Right And of course that can go wrong too, but right now at this moment The dominant narrative is anti white male anti masculinity anti patriotism, you know, I'm It's all Anti-american anti family man. It's all about the family for me Man, you have to meet uh goldman a leash man. He's gonna be like your news like soul brother. Oh, cool Yeah, you really I'll send you a speech from them at 20 like mention you'd really get along with them I met I met up with them in new york back in 2019 Before coven all the fucking stupid garbage. He lives near he used to live he moved not upstate new york, I think but Still around there Yeah, nice. Yeah, please. He's he's familiar to those art galleries like he had totally The the things you're saying are like I he could he could spit He could I could pull him out of his mouth too like a hundred percent. He hates all this fucking He's lived in york for like 15 20 years So he saw this collapse into this postmodernist fucking garbage and he hates it like you We have to fight it back We have to fight it back So I'm glad there's a photography even doing this too because photography used to be such a beautiful medium too in galleries today in Manhattan are showing photography in this weird blurry lens of of of like You know trashy scenes. It's nothing beatific anymore It's nothing about Talk to me about this painting this one's titled kissing through the ages So I see influences of psychedelic things maybe like mushrooms here and I see you know romanticism here What's going on here? So um, these are all different the most notable artistic renditions of of kisses art historically and I sort of stack these together and One reason why I love showing this side of me too is because people like to assume that toxic masculinity Is simply a poison without understanding that toxic masculinity produces this kind of adoration And it's important. It's it's important. You know, it's like when I when I speak to my woman here She knows where I'm coming from when I'm doing all this um This upright masculine behavior I've educated her to the point where she can appreciate it and she understands that if a man does not if he's not upright It is masculinity It's going to resurface in a negative manifestation Which is really what rapid hip-hop is and this is a part of being upright in your masculine nature Not being a simp, not being a beta male, not being a cucked But being a man who has this power and can yield it with a woman who is appreciative Well, you also mentioned rapid hip-hop. So you also mean like thug crap thug energy. Yeah, all that beta stuff They're just competing against woman sexuality. So that's the odd thing about it unconsciously Yeah, it's sad. It's sad It seems to me less retarded slightly than the like absolute soy boys that are just completely effeminate But yeah, it's definitely less retarded Yeah, it's it's a damage. It's a damage form of masculinity. It's like an unhinged alpha He's just like a wild like a total loose cannon. You know, no guidance. Yeah people get grown up You know, they raise basically the alpha males, but they became alpha by being raised by a single mother So there's completely like aimless. They just fuck around do stupid shit get in trouble Yeah, this is cool. Yo, what is this one dude? Parabella You know what parabella means, right? I mean, fuck it was used in uh, the john wick three recently. Yeah, okay I mean that that right there it could be like Parabella that could be the name of like like if you had a band that would be your band name my friend Parabella means parabella means if you want peace you must be ready for war. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's that's sexy That's sexy right there. I love it. It's conflict, you know Like jack donovan one of our speakers a friend of mine says violence is golden And through that you could interpret that in some ways conflict itself is golden And that means war and peace and fighting, uh, you know to achieve life-affirming values in my view This is awesome. I mean, this is fucking thank you, brother. Look at this These are all these are all basically very uh You know intense forms of war or war creatures or or iconographies Just stacked facing plotting it to each other and you know, it's funny that we talked about this because you know, um My father told me actually that what he learned at that moment when he was on those rooftops Is that only thing that will be a Evil person Who uses violence is a good person with more violence So wait wait was your dad literally a rooftop korean? um He him and his friends were were like We're like the They weren't I don't know if they were they were like they weren't like on the roots, you know, I'm saying but they're they're in They were in that la right culture moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, everybody's on the roof. I get it. Yeah, that's right There there were that there were that uh community Yeah, yeah, you know, it's funny because during that time there was actually Uh, this big korean radio host in la for like the korean community there He actually did an announcement. He said all the fathers in the korean community Korea town is like pretty much burned down. We're gonna meet at this gun store Pretty shit and and then the end of the um The law the immigration attorney was there And then he spoke to them he goes listen guys in this country If worse comes to worse you can arm yourself to protect your family and your business and livelihood Yep, and then the gun owner the gun korean gun owner he goes listen Either way if you don't do something They're gonna come into my store and take all the guns and they'll all be all in the streets So What are you gonna do about it? Right, and then they basically double down grab the guns and made it very visible on purpose on the roots A lot of them weren't even shooting just the threat is enough Yeah, just the threat is enough a lot of them We're just kind of holding the guns visibly like this away from the bodies They know you know, I mean a little distance like walking around and they're like all right We're not going in that direction But I gotta say that those three generations they were uh beat on vets Korean war vets and then demanded their military service So it was like to at that point You know, those are patriots. Those are patriots. Yeah. Yeah. They're not even korean at that point Rooftop koreans are the best some of the best americans for sure man patriots. Yeah, legendary legendary status Yeah, they're dangsters This is awesome. Yeah, Parabella. This is fucking savage, dude. Yeah, thank you, brother. Yeah, that's huge ending too. You know, it's it's a If I had a couple million setting around I would just like buy this We'll figure something out Yeah, this is really cool man. What is this white this white one in the middle? Is this from it's just like a princess monica reference? Or what is this? No, I yeah people have thought that so it's a white stag flat in contrast Which is a very masculine symbol and um, many different cultures, especially in Nordic It's just I wanted to sort of Stand out in contrast. So the only two things that are flat white is that masculine stag walking in this You know in its own comfort and then to the right top the sort of damocles is kind of hanging there So it's playing with that theme a little bit where those are the two white things because the idea that anyone who has Like a credibility of a man, right? The credibility of a man. It comes from having power but not abusing it Yep, right? What is this not here this elephant thing the elephant lady? That's Ganesha Yeah, so Ganesha is would always play the flute when all the other wrathful spirits are at war and all that Dude, that's sad That elephant is my spirit animal, bro For reasons for reasons I can't tell you on air, but I like this drag. This is like a dragon air or something too This is yeah, yeah, man. I really like this Thank you, brother. It's it's a lot of time man. You know, it's uh, there's a passion It's like right through the organic side of actually painting and the context of wow How long did this take to the pain? Yeah, this is this. Yeah, it's You know, I've certain styles require less time, but um, my particular style because there's so many layers You know, it's um Like frankly, especially the scale of the one we're looking at parable. I'm right here if you zoomed into any of those Those are like individual paintings in and of themselves because because one of those figures are like bigger than me already Right, there's a big painting. So they're basically like it's like 50 Mona Lisa's in one that kind of thing Damn, so you're measuring it but give a ballpark. You would measure painting this in weeks or months or years um This would definitely take a couple months for sure For sure. Yeah, I I mean this is a big this is a big one. I I mean this one was um Yeah, I think this is like four and a half months wow That is really uh, it's really impressive man. I love it. I love the uh, I spend, you know Like months and even a year sometimes working on a conference And it's hard work. It's hard work and It's it's art to me in my own way even though like philosophically not be categorized as art obviously but this is so much more uh intricate and Colorful and it was I love it man. It's really cool Uh, thank you so much and another and another life. I would love to do stuff like this man We'll see someday or even try even try to do something like this, right? Take over brush brother. Come on. You know, it's important to have something just for the flow You know, it's like my brother. He's he's very based himself like he's He wears a magnet hat in new york, which is dangerous to do Dangerous I wore my I did it I did it too But um Yeah, he he discovered like certain like Just something artistic, you know, it just fulfilled it to it, you know It doesn't you don't have to be in this business because you don't want to probably right, but it's um, it's definitely creates balance, you know I'll talk to me about this one all and everything That's one of my favorite words Yeah, yeah, so so the top these are all positioned very specifically the top region. These are all Uh, celestial or sacred things that men have to stand up for essentially So there's different depictions of gods and they're all protective gods. They're good gods They're the positive spirits and then even angels right in the middle end Is all these warrior type of themes here from beowulf in the middle there To achilles to kim yushin To these medieval knights and the bottom is the underworld. So you have the devouring mother You have yamantaka Medusa Yes, yes I know a few medusas myself All right, there's a lot out there today. There's a lot out there today, you know, they're called single mothers Even beyond even beyond Yeah, medusas everywhere, man Yeah, it's boldly there in the middle, too You know, it's it's you know, it's it's It's so important. It's not even I don't regard it as optional like People don't realize the investments are missing out on it, but it doesn't have to be me I'm not pushing myself any artists that you like Doesn't have to be me put one piece or in your home You are putting something symbolic that will placate into your entire house Because your walls are bare and now you're putting something at eye level, you know, and it's just forcing that energy into your home. So You know when I started dating my girl, she was like, um, she never realized How how her energy and mood changed and her life actually changed the moment she had All this art on her walls like she just felt her level going Well, you're surrounding yourself with greatness and with creativity and intelligence and passion and power Yeah, I actually want to ask you I want to ask you about let me back up to this one. We looked at earlier So what how did the how do you choose or how what was the decision-making process for colors in this? What does the red represent blood power fire? What is this? So there's a couple things I don't want to bore people too much, but there's a formalistic technical side to actual painting, which is Um, everything is contrast right everything is contrast so Including the color wheel, right? So what I'll do is up like let's say You have a a pin. You have a pin of like 50 orange balls in there If I put one blue ball in there, where is your eye going to go? The blue ball, right? So my whole thing is I always want to create that contrast So it can so that the image vibrates more So the blue and the red it's a very good composition because they're not too different So it's not going to seem too much distance, but they're they're all put enough that it's going to you're going to notice that They're pushing and pulling a little bit, but Um, definitely I actually painted the raising of the flag in the back first And then it has to be red that it has to show the blood and then the sacrifice right and then And at that point the colors kind of played out and I'm and then because I painted that right Of course the line has to be red because of two central figures and then the blue back It's beautiful the tackle leaves on the side Perfect brother. It just flows from there Yeah, man Yeah, we uh keep I wanted to talk about Uh, this one next this is the one actually used for the uh, I grabbed it for the thumbnail Obviously for the right man group today. I love the uh, the tiger in the meadow herds is fucking. I love it This is this really I put your head actually over this guy I kind of like put you and I was like here's Arthur. Yeah with the fucking and you're surrounded by lions and gods and shit Yeah, so this this is called apex, uh, then so all the animals you see there are apex predators And The top is sun su author of the art of war to the left of the line is william wallis to the right top right area Is a haga shige a samurai you have leonidas and you have kimushin They're basically like the top generals or warriors that that are um You can just come there too like just and Caesar um as you went through them seeing more these are just You know The most feared and regarded warriors throughout history stack with these apex predators But for me the mood of this work. I was trying to denote also It's important for men to start engaging into the state of mind of being active rather than reactive And this work is just so in your face is tiger screaming at you And uh, this is actually sold to a uh collection in Canada now Um, you know, hopefully Justin Trudeau sees it and it triggers him I can imagine a feminist would just hate this kind of stuff or jerk off to it one or the other But probably secretly jerk off to it. Yeah, I would think so. Yeah, this is very masculine painting this one This one, I mean the scream and all of it man. Just yeah, it's brutal brutal even You know, you know as man, we we need a like I think that You need to put work up You need to put art up that will bring the right type of energy that will Benefit your life and for me, I think it's important for men To put something that represents that tension that we are in today and masculinity is the most hated thing today There's there's no two ways about it. I mean, this is why I told you We are the counterculture, man You weren't you if I wait if we were to punk rock days and we're wearing a leather jacket today. That's a mega hat Today today that you know, you you're quoting this like no one other by the way, which I appreciate You know what I mean? I was actually gonna gonna get a make art great again hat to some match you on this today, but you should Oh I was gonna put the shipping the fastest shipping. What are the ones you're gonna make today when I thought of yesterday But um, yeah, I have a website. I make them all the time obviously. Let me know your address after the show and I'll send Okay, okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah Yeah, you should definitely make it you should you should pimp that hundred percent make art great again That's not my thing. I'm I'll support it But if you wear that and get that going you should walk on the art gallery's not hat Just just you know You know, I even had um Number one, I'm probably gonna do that. That sounds hot. We're gonna we're gonna I'm gonna be your uh I'm gonna be your agent doppelganger Yeah, but but you know when I was speaking so much about my conservative support I even had anti-bots, uh come to my studio once and and yeah, I mean luckily it wasn't like a big mob, but They're all pussies, man. I mean basically they shot. Uh, this fat Stere he was literally a circle. He shot Fireworks at my studio window and I go down there and and and he just he's running, right? He has a son with them He has a son with them and my thinking right there was He's using this is the problem with a lot of conservatives actually we need it. We need to edit this otherwise We'll have nothing to conserve which is that? They're taking I'm gonna give your viewers no choice but to speak up We're speaking up, but let me tell you why if you don't speak up They hate you If you do speak up, they hate you Right if you're civil with them your strategy right now Is hoping that they'll have a modicum of civility and stop themselves or someone else in that side world That's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. You need to speak up center for what's right and you know The reality is numbers do work and the more of us do it the more um Oscillation they'll be but when I went outside I was gonna go down to kick his ass You know like I got thrown in the nation tech on though by the way and I'm I'm like I got a lot of ranks under my belt actually So I was gonna go to these uh some of this some of this alpha energy right here Yeah, I'm guessing you have it if you're exerting this in your painting I'm sure that you have some of this in real life, too. You wouldn't be able to paint this otherwise Oh, yeah for sure. You know An artist is gonna represent whatever You know, it's their character. They're really showing I went down to kick this guy's ass and he's running with his kid and I couldn't help but think when I got back up He knew he knew if he had his kid with him I wasn't gonna beat his ass But I couldn't help but think that because why would you bring your kid? Because a conservative is they're encroaching on you but with your civility you know what I mean so We have to be careful because Reliability is careful. For example, we need to use our Our civility needs to be specified because Politeness is going to kill us because there that a lot of politeness is just political correctness Yep Yeah, and you know you mentioned the child. I mean there's this old saying that dictators and tyrants always hide behind children And uh, it's sick. It's bad. It's down pathetic Yeah, they do. Well, that's deep and that's a very that's a very uh low powered little tyrant You know some asshole and tifa fucking loser, but that's the exact same principle basically and whether it's, you know Stalin or some douchebag, you know throwing shit fireworks that you're building. It's the same principle. It's disgusting. It's sick people hiding behind children like that Yeah You know what man Good I want to say I want to shift some gears back to the manusphere I wanted to actually find out how you discovered the manusphere How you discovered shan smith how the manusphere has influenced you what your thoughts are on it I'm not too familiar with that quite yet. How you entered the space. You obviously found it somehow. So i'm curious to know Yeah Well, you know I've been actually listening to you While i was dating often um, but but I I think what uh You know You said you regard your Setting up to the convention as art form. It is an art form. We're using different mediums Right. Yeah, and what i'm in my medium what i'm known for is Like this is what i'm known for is painting masculine imagery and religious iconography. That's what i'm known for doing already. So Hearing people doing it vocally and publicly with the actual words um It means a lot to me Because i'm i'm i'm excavating this symbolically in my studio every day So if someone's doing it publicly rather than privately now i'm doing it publicly but my point is beforehand I wasn't doing it publicly actually even if my work is Plastered and gallery walls and everyone's walking and seeing it. It's not the same as my face saying hey man up the same thing right and So so the manuscript is always actually, um Here, cerebrally, but i i just have to become public about it and I think also Like when did you first find uh 21 studios 21 convention red man group stuff? Oh, man, I think it was several years ago. Um, I can't get a time but I I I've been listening to a lot of content for you know, whether it's um Ellie a whole stuff. I'm all in you Jordan. Jordan Peterson jessily Peterson too um All of these people who just are basically standing here for what's right, you know yourself included that Have you talked to ellie yet? He's he's gonna love this kind of paintings, dude This is right up his alley man like a thousand percent We spoke a little bit on instagram Uh briefly but but I gotta follow up with that guy. Yeah, he's awesome. I love that guy actually I would love to work out what to do because i'm trying to get my squad larger He just moved to uh central florida near me lives about 30 40 minutes away. I think and he'll be a 21 of course again He'll be there. You get to meet him you know, um, that's amazing and i'm also um I want to be the And I guess I really am the only one so it seems to be the case. I want to be the fine artist for the manister I want to be that guy because the gallery scene There's two caroling even the good ones out there. There's gallery art dealers. I know I've had like I had sushi with one recently. We're sitting down eating like I love president trump. I agree with everything you're saying but I can't do it publicly Yeah, I hate that man. I hate when people do that. It's like come on bro Man, you're you're like one step away, dude. Just fucking pull the trigger, bro. Did your balls drop yet? Come on, dude Let's go. Yeah, be revolutionary, man. I mean, I mean the thing is um Ignorance is arrogance and I I think we're we're polite, which is testament to our character But we need to reserve that for those who respect and appreciate you, you know, I'm saying like that's really what it is and the reason why I I just realized I need to become the artist for this community is because um, I mean, they're They just they don't like that. I'm a masculine Artisan and it sounds cliche and if and it felt cartoonish when it was happening When it was happening getting these emails having these conversations when it was happening I I couldn't actually like Register it at first because it was so weird for me because I've been doing this for 10 years so when that happened I was like Wait, really? like I thought it was um, a lot of times it's hyperbolically traumatic a little bit when You're doing that for like pop effect with all these people I listen to but I know they're still speaking truth But when it happens to me, I'm like, oh my god Fuck this shit Fuck your agent you at least your asian american whatever like you you actually have some minority, uh, woke You know defensive points basically and even that wasn't enough to stop that. We're just kind of amazing You know, yeah, but you know a lot of uh, man a lot of asian community They're so tired of this feminist shit though although the what I mean, I shouldn't say that because I guess we're a little split in that regard but but but just just to wrap it with why I got really active in manager is uh I was noticing that um All of these problems that I've been noticing in our culture and amongst, you know, I grew up with all So many people was raised by single mothers too And I this is a story that everyone here can relate with I've noticed that um Because once masculinity is out the window everything suffers and I think that uh I was studying my own life and I noticed that Women and men define evil differently That's who actually were both out there actually too. I had a very deep conversation with my sister And who's damn honest for a woman And that's a rare thing for a woman at least well in general, but yeah, particularly women today They're focused on emotions not like external reality, you know Yeah, well, I think I think it's men define Evil as a diversion from a set of prioritized abstract principles Okay, and women define evil as that which is blocking their immediate desires and That clicked to my mind and once that clicked to me I realized I'm a part of the problem because I'm not saying anything That's really what it was. I realized I'm a part of the problem because I just realized this I just grew up single mother generation. I grew up all of this shit being so obvious and prevalent to me I'm like, I'm not saying anything though But it's all clicking to me and on my mouth is still shut. You know what I mean? So I'm like This isn't right man. I'm painting masterland imagery. I'm all about supporting other men I do believe the solution in not just my profession in art, but greatest society is masterlandy as a force So I know all this and I'm quiet and I'm like I gotta I gotta just any up and um, that's all it came out to it's almost like the boiling point. You know what I mean? I'm uh, I I get it man. I respected a lot that you uh You realize that and you took steps to correct course on that in your life. It takes balls, man It's a turning point that you'll probably never forget rest of your life I was fortunate enough to just find a lot of good ideas and good philosophers at young age and good men in the Manisphere and as a result of always just kind of done whatever the fuck I wanted to do And that was a very good uh precursor to the culture war that we're seeing now in America You know back in the 2000s when it was still kind of quiet compared to what we see now And uh, I love to see it them. I'm just you know step up make the right decision You know, I mean I got you in sushi with you know, he's he's that position now But maybe he'll watch this and you know six months from now or six weeks from now He changes his mind. He's like, you know what? I don't think we fucking do it. I can fucking do it We had fucking sushi. I'm gonna fucking speak the fuck up or whatever Exactly especially how much that total was man. You've got to any up Well, you know man, it's it's interesting because uh I think the fear that a lot of listeners who are anonymously listening and and they love what you're saying, but they're quiet Which is a lot of the audience You know because you could be anyone to the internet, but it takes real balls to do in a real life, right? And I think that uh Let me tell you all something. Okay, let me encourage you all because my worry was your worry I was worried that if I speak my mind Then I'm going to go into the dark abyss and be alienated and castigated You will be by the people who aren't even your friends in the first one but you will get a lot of people who reach out to you and The it's way outnumbered. You'll be surprised. It's you'll get so much more love than hate But I will say they'll be more quiet about it though But but the numbers themselves for me when I when I show people it's like it sounds like I'm a fag when I came out as a pro man person I got way more love way more I got I got like hundreds of emails So many messages and then I got a lot of hate But it was not it's you'll be surprised that percentages are not the same You know, but it's just that they're just that small majority. It's so vocal minority. It's so vocal but you should people encourage because honestly When people tell me that they're afraid to speak up and stand up for masculinity and conservative values I kind of have to mock them because I work in the most left-leaning art industry that is literally one by feminism Black lives matter And I'll say things like there's an opening in washington dc this art this big art networking things And I remember this is before I was like In the manastere. I said I believe the three Uh, my work. I'm trying to dismantle feminism Multiculturalism and Islam And then everyone was like who the fuck is this guy get him out of the room, right? But he's a white man an asian to scoff I mean, I mean just to get the same thing, you know Just to get the same thing just leave Peterson, but Jesse, I mean what we all understand though is that you know, it's it's You know the whole yin and yang symbol Yeah We're just on the right side. I don't want to say it like that but that is the case because It's individual versus a collective. That's really what it is. It's sprain prey strategy versus delay gratification for investment to your family and children There's aesthetic relativity versus universal standards. It's all this spreading it or it's going upwards It really is and we're all about that cohesion because it is a man's responsibility is birthright To stand up for what's right and have that social cohesion We have to wash over that because of one job is to maintain the family ours is to maintain greater society And we've we've we've we have forgotten that Because when you just when you just look at a dad when you just look at a classical model of a dad That's what he's doing. He's out there coming back bringing resources and you go. Oh, shit And I'm and I'm ma's here watching over the uh the food and well He's not even just bringing bringing back resources. He's out there most likely building things or doing things that are Instructive that are not destructive You know broken window fallacy crap like that obviously not that but really doing things that are positive and fruitful and productive You know, I do with my conventions a lot of it. I've said, you know, a couple things about it You might find interesting So I mentioned that I view it as a form of art for myself, right? Being uh being an entrepreneur and this is the method that I choose to paint What I do with the conventions though is actually I'm only painting directly a little bit myself through speaking Mostly what I'm doing is building a canvas and then I'm inviting painters and speakers to paint on it themselves I actually said this verbatim in my uh keynote speech at the 22 convention for women Because the media saw me as a good dictator They thought for whatever reason they thought I was prescribing like curriculum for the speakers to just vomit like zombies I'm like, this is the opposite of how I operate. I'm extremely like libertarian in that sense There are a few limitations. You can't endorse feminism communism, you know crap like that racism Like legit racism is fucking hating people based on the way they're born But beyond that you can speak about whatever you want once you're invited The ultimate authority is to speak is up to you as a speaker and I force it that way You know, I'll help the speaker guide. I'll guide a speaker if they have questions or they want to ping ideas off of you Of course, but at the end of the day, I want them to be their own Contributing artists to a larger painting Which is the 21 convention or 22 convention or the father event, you know the patriarch condition And I love I've always felt that about you. I've always felt that it's like you're a um We use art language. You're like you're like a curator You know what I mean? Yeah, it's it's like you're allowing the artist But but you want you're like a free market curator in that regard Um to use fine art language More crudely more crudely. I'm like a pokemon trainer and you guys are more pokemon. I'm like collecting Everyone that like I've gone to the point where If someone's blacklisted or hated I immediately am a fan Yeah, I mean I'm just I'm at that point now. It's like if somebody's hated and doxed I'm into it and that's actually uh, that's a big part of how you know, shan how we got acclimated here because uh um Like I told you so many people were reaching out to me And number of the guys who came to my studio recently were a part of this community brother called liminal order Oh, yeah, I know it is jack yeah Yeah, and then uh That evening man I just felt what masculine linear done right is Everyone was in shape came on time met what they said and their words were born And they're all talking about how we can fight back I'm like damn that's the move and I joined that I joined that night without even knowing Actually, I didn't even know that much about the organized or anything like that for me. It's just You know, whether it's bond whether it's one convention whether it's own benjamin's bears Whether it's liminal order. These are all clans and we're all fighting It's like Like like whoever is willing mollus. We're all different scots fighting the english I do I do the manuscript. I view the manuscript seriously as a distinct It's a larger. It's a large movement an emerging movement of men and fathers, but really it's a it's a It's distinct tribes. You have the mixtape tribe the red pill tribe. Yeah the pickle part is dating coach tribe You have the men's rights You kind of other ones forming like these fatherhood patriarch guides and stuff you see 21 convention patriarch, for example As an illustration of that it's happened the past couple years Whereas 10 years ago that was not necessary. I think of the manuscript. There wasn't a demand for it yet a hunger Yeah, it's it's basically these tribes that are distinct but have common interests common purposes and common You know values essentially Like it's i'm trying to i'm trying to define for example the manuscript's entire purpose as a positive future for men boys and fathers Which I think is the most universal and fundamental thing that we can all agree on we should all fight for That's exactly what it should be designed for, you know Women can do their own thing too and feminism is the opposite of that of course But you know men and boys and fathers need a movement to push these issues forward for them Their specific interests to fight for and that's what this community is doing Not only politically with the men's rights, but culturally socially and relationships and personally self-improvement these things Yeah, it's fucking I love it. Well, this this this is all uh And like this is all religion doesn't god's work You know Wait, are you uh, are you a christian or what religion you subscribe to multiple maybe I know you have the million mask of god Thing I saw it's really got the title. That sounds very blasphemous, right? Yeah I'm a non-denominational christian with with the sprinkle of buddhism in there. Okay Um, I think You know, you know, it's kind of a um um, I there's I'm pretty appreciative of what greek region greek reason And and the christian culture together has done for what's in society And I always tell people I'm an american painter, right? I'm here. Um, and I'm I'm appreciative of that and but I think also my psychedelic experiences have Made me also really relate to Um buddhist principles too. So I'm this sort of the strange fusion of the two in many ways I'm pulling up the answer. I know Yeah, yeah for sure, man. I got it. I got it. Yeah. Yeah, I knew that immediately when I saw this and we get psychedelics Yeah, I had my face. I had my face Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, you you really get along with golden man. I'm telling you man. He's like your your brother a brother from a past lifetime Really? I sent him your work last night. He was looking at it and he wants I think he wants to meet I need to read with the text he said back. Oh Listen, if any of the if any of the crew is in uh in the university my city is very large I don't know if you like cigars. We can just oh wait, dude You should meet Pat Steadman. Yeah, Pat Steadman lives up there. Wait, can you go there? He got he's he's uh getting investigated by the FBI for that riot bullshit on the sixth He went if it was famous for this because he's a dating coach and then the FBI fucking arrested him It was all over the fucking news and said But he's super cool guy and I think he would like a little love what you're doing he's not an artist But he's a coach and uh You guys you'll get along well. I think you got along really well. He lives in New York Well, you know, I would I would love to meet anyone in this community because of what I see it in common The universality with everything people said with I named these different clans you named these different ideologies associated with the clans But what they all share Is making men adopt responsibility You know, this is a bit. This is this is I mean Like I'm not a I'm not a big towel guy I'm not I'm not a playboy. I'm I'm really kind of um for me My deepest pleasure is not about getting laid. It's actually being in the studio doing what I love Like I'm a painter artist verse. I really I do say like I said like eight five to eight hours. Yeah, well, I mean, I mean it's like I probably don't know Take a blink or anything and and but Because if you communicate what you just said to women effectively just get some wet I mean, this is the ultimate like I don't give a fuck about banging you because I don't care I care about this and that just makes them that strives them nuts Yeah, I I've never had a problem. I've never had a problem with women in that department, but I've also never cared about it I've always been um My my obsession is trying to make a composition better than my last painting It really is like that's like I'm like competing Effectively I really am and there's this television to that Yeah, I love it. Yeah, well, it's very masculine to keep yourself improving over time never stop keep going and going and going until you die I did want to ask you though, you know, what painters in the past historically have influenced you Are there any big names that the audience should know that they've influenced you? hmm so So it's funny because for me it's aren't historically speaking all the classics the greeks, but also All the artists who were really supported by patrons and like generals of the or Medici family or A pope lewis all you know, which is Raphael Michael Angelo da Vinci all of these classical masters. Um all the ninja turtles them too But It's funny asked one of my my best friend. He's a computer programmer. He knows nothing about art and then we're just talking We're drinking one night and I'm like He said and then I swear to god, he goes he says Vincent van Gaugh And the falling to turtles. I'm like, you don't even know how to say van Gogh's name You know No, but anyways, um, but I'm I mean the phobos also were artists that really inspired me, but I will say I'm a little bit uncommon amongst this I guess uncommon industry of artists because I'm much more Inspired by contextual Writers and philosophers that almost inspires me more because I I have all this technical training I have the tool to render color theory value contrast. I understand all of this technical prowess, but I almost have like get the mother also break the rules So I have the skill set But really what gets me going is Alan Watts GK Chesterton Joseph Campo the archetypal language Carl Jung Nietzsche these guys really um get me thinking about these ideas and Once that gets going then I sort of excavate historical context and I want to um animate these ideas with my brush with Modern lens and so I'm I'm much more of a contextual artist in a um sort of strange way Yeah, this is awesome. It's been a lot of fun talking to me about these issues, man. Oh, yeah, man This has been a pleasure, but listen, it's a big change from typical red man group or you know other issues Uh, we focus. Yeah, this is the first time. We've ever really completely focused an episode on art So I figured it'd be a good uh switch, you know What was also because usually if you brought an artist you'd probably like Talk about his feelings and and how his mom would beat him and I wouldn't like that. You don't got time for that Yeah, I got time for that. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't have him on the show exactly I knew I had this this this would go this conversation would go out us from talking to you and seeing your paintings it was obvious to me like Uh, you know again, I'm not a painter uh, you know another formal artist But I really respect creativity and intelligence and beauty and I could tell him what you're doing That's probably why Sean Smith gets along with you too. He's very much into this kind of romanticism in these things and the masculinity, obviously Well, I wanted to say you just said romanticism and it's important because we always Conserve us always talk about taking the culture back taking the culture back taking the culture back So and your bright part, you know, we all know how he says politics and dancing from culture Yep, you know, Michael Savage has been saying the same thing. Dennis Berger has been saying the same thing so many people have been saying this because um Those are wise men and they understand that majority of people especially on the fence They do not learn what data numbers pie charts or polls or anything like that They learn from the the language and the culture that is in front of them, you know, like most people they go home and they'll watch E Hollywood, you know, they're not gonna No, no, but you know what I'm saying. It's that most people They're friends Yeah, I haven't had cable TV in probably like fucking 12 years or something. So uh, you don't you don't need it But you know what? So conservatives the way we take back well We might need to make a new conservative party by the way, but uh, but the way we take back the culture is It's simply a matter of term Right and we just have to understand that real romanticism We need to start from the core the definition here real romanticism Is traditionality That's what it boils down to being a romantic is being nested in tradition That is a point because it really was before the post modernist in the frankfort school took it over because Our schools were at the air schools. It was really like a like a trade schools This kind of discipline and once our universities came into the picture It was really just uh left this indoctrination center But this is before frankfort school came in with these essays But it's important to understand because I appreciate The sentiment of what the daily wild daily wire is trying to do when they started this whole art thing about, you know Starting their movies, but you can't help a cringe a little bit. You know, there's like scenes It's almost like it's seamless like like the bad guys are coming and you grab the condo This is my american ride. You're like, oh, it's like You know, I'm saying that you're you're being too It's like if I sort of painting american eagles and statue liberties And and only use red white and blue and it'd be like you're now Your art is you don't want the art to be touched by this kind of ideologue You want the artist to be the artist But you sort of open it by conservative support. That's it. That's it. It's not great It reminds me what you're saying reminds me of like prairie university It'll make like a pro masculinity video But it's it's nowhere near what you see in the man is here not even not even man is for light. It's just weak It's like, you know toxic masculinity is vs and you know masculinity is a good thing And but then they get into the reasons and it's like men are just subservient to women It's like come on get the fuck out of here like you started off strong and you just dropped the ball fucking immediately So they mean well, yeah, but they're Okay, okay We both are making the same diagnosis, but the problem with conservatives The reason why I said we might need to start a new conservative party is because they just don't open up They don't go far enough. They have acid because The polite shit Yeah, your being polite is gonna kill you, you know what I mean And they're filled with fucking the left is like swamped with beta males But the republican party is filled with fucking beta males too Yeah, like fucking beta males that they're living in fucking la la land They don't they have no understanding of how massively the culture has changed women birth control feminism single motherhood abortion like They're living in they're living in fucking la la land that yeah, so I know you're saying it sucks Yeah The maga stuff though is promising I mean the maga stuff is from pretty hardcore as a as a new wing of the republican party And they've trump's done a good job taking it over. I mean, it's not perfect, but he's pushing hard man You think he's gonna come back hard Oh, yeah, he'll do everything. There's I mean, dude Trump loves being an underdog number one That's yeah, it's where he's best. He's not best being on top. I think he's He's best making a comeback. He wrote a fucking book called the art of the comeback Now if it's if it's logistically Voting wise if you know what I mean possible in 2024 to win I think he's gonna find a way and he's pissed now too. I mean, can you imagine what fucking angry he is? You know, given the irregularities, let's say that happened in 2020. He must be really fucking angry and planning his revenge That's what I would do is I was him right now How do I win in 2024 and fuck over as many people as possible? What else is he gonna do like golf? That's just chill the rest of the day Trump doesn't retire. He's gonna be He's gonna do some crazy shit when he's like 90 like he's not he's not That guy's not gonna stop and he's got Ron DeSantis I think it is back this time as a really powerful VP that I think he can trust unlike Pence You know Pence was always, you know, I was never against Pence, but it was It's clear. He was never like a super hardcore manga guy and in the end. I think that was shown And so he won't be obviously running with Trump again 2024, but I think Optics for your DeSantis knows a win for like a lot of just basic political things optics, you know winning Florida blah, blah, blah But he's also powerful like Trump. He's savage. He's a man. He's a Florida man You know DeSantis is a is a is a well groomed Florida man and that motherfucker. I have to agree Yeah, I have to agree, you know, um, yeah And I think he's a patriot at the end. I don't really know how deep Mike Pence's patriotism goes Maybe not very deep at all Ron DeSantis. I think it's a patriot and that matters a lot Most presidents for decades now have not been in any way shape or form patriots in my opinion The hate of the country Clinton, Obama Bush all these losers Trump was the first patriot we had since at least Reagan So to have Trump back in there and have a VP at the same At the same level, you know, spiritually, you know, for lack of a better term to comprehend to encapsulate all of it Yeah, that'd be a really massive powerful duo like that But you know what I also think that like Biden being in office You know all this hell being raised come on here's all this The squad all this cringy shit I think that the country has to survive the 2024 as well. And I don't know if that's going to happen at this rate So that's the thing too. You got to Assuming we survive my friend assuming we survive my thinking is I had a conversation with a friend about this. He said that he's he's hard for conservative. He says, you know what? You know what? This is a good thing Like how the fuck is this a good thing? He says, you know, how many of my friends who thought they were on the left Came to me saying, oh, I take it back Like they're so bad that it's almost like Things might get so bad that, you know, the setback is a setup for a comeback, right? It might get so bad that people might just like I stood up I spoke up because it got so bad Yeah, you know something might happen like I don't want it to get worse. I think it should take less Our bolster tolerance should be fucking down low, you know, so we can save immediately but I mean I I I have seen people stand up because it's getting bad and of course that's I mean It's not the best situation But the fact that it's getting bad means more men will stand up and we can commute and strategize Yeah, I think yeah, I think people too they get disheartened like they get over focused on policy and specific elections And not that they're unimportant. Trump's was obviously extremely important in 2020 as well as 2016 and they had different outcomes But basically I think what's really positive is the maga. Well number one the raw palm movement that got started back in 2008 2012 I think that a heavy influence and that basically evolved into the trump movement in 2016 the maga movement And that to me is just growing and growing and growing and that's what really needs to happen The issues that america faces culturally politically, you know, all these things family and masculinity and femininity All those things need to be fucking fixed massively flipped on their head, right? This is the point that you need great the culture you need a great awakening And I think that's happening and politically that's just one exertion of it Culturally at the man's sphere and you know make them a great again all this stuff That's another example of it, you know and an art what you're going through and stuff people standing up You know that this is why everyone knows honey is so much happening Because Kanye, I mean he's not articulate. He's not But you have to understand that this way he had every temptation the dark one could offer him He says no Jesus is king and what does that mean? What does that mean? That means no i'm gonna stand up for For what's right with fatherhood and and he said a big part of this was because he looked at his kids You know i'm saying so I mean he's not articulate. I get it and I get it. He he likes his pills whatever you want to say, but It's it's um, it's a testament because what happened with me is a microcosm because i'm not nearly any of that Falling but what happened with and this is happening with so many people not even in the creative world So we need to become uncancelable and the way we become uncancelable Is is we need to find like-minded community like in the man's sphere and frankly speaking it's uh I think I think that You know what we're doing is we're really setting the pathway for All the truth to just go through like a funnel man and and we're i'm just a vehicle i'm i'm just a The brush for this right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're the messenger. So you get shot. Sorry, bro Shoot the message. That's me and you dude. It's all good. It's all good. You know I don't know you but I ain't going to the fucking I ain't going to the fucking gulag. So That didn't happen it. No No 100 no Yeah Last question one of the last questions I wanted to ask you There are any other misconceptions that you could kind of highlight for guys Maybe that'll be in your 21 connection speech about art and masculinity I mean, what is it? What does the average guy not understand? For example, when he watches a great movie or sees maybe a great movie that doesn't really care about it. Maybe Like I would consider john mc1 for example a pretty great movie not the best in history or anything But that's a powerful movie Compared to the other fucking trash you see is rolled out through hollywood, you know every fucking week Not cow covid crap now. It's standing That was a great mask in the movie. I think it was uh, it was powerful kiana one of his best one of his best roles the first movie Um, this lot of the movies do a lot of Patriot brave heart things like this and that's just a form of art that people are very familiar with obviously Not many people are going to art galleries, but they do go to the movies and stuff So what are some other misconceptions about art? You know that the average man in america sees or could see that he's not understanding like what is he missing in value in these things How can art make a lot of money man? Yeah, well number one is um We can't care about women so much. I think I think a big well for my my the reason why There's two types of pleasures, right? There's the surface surface value of pleasure, which is good food sex hedonism And the deeper pleasure is the application or mastery of discipline And an appreciation of it too, right? so It's important for us to as men to you know, we need to um, you know the whole sentiment that Women they already have their pathway. They understand they You know, they have kids and they have to be selective. They're wise. That's pretty much it men. We need to become masters of a discipline and And a part of that is appreciating other disciplines and seeing that same light So we have to understand that we have to become a culture We need to become the gatekeepers because you'll be surprised by how linked these things are the reason why You feel the elitist pretentious vibe when you go into a gallery that's designed that way right Men used to be the ones who were the gatekeepers for all of this right now But currently I think it's like 70 80 percent of the people who are working in galleries Are women and and they're basically going to be running it in another, you know, 10 50 years So that's already happening um, so we need to um We need to get involved here and and it's almost like return to tradition Restore the sacred and buy some damn art You know, and and again, I'm not talking for myself here But you have to get involved in the culture. You really do. I mean like I'll test it out right now if I said It seems today that all we see is violence And movies and sex on tv you guys Yeah, because because that's culture Right, it falls to that sort of reading something from I don't know like ghostie eski You're not gonna know what the fuck I'm talking. You can't recite that And that's a problem. But the point is that you wanted you to get into the culture faster. This is why this is why trump was so good Because he understands the power of branding, right? It's a it's a caring agent But, you know, if I sleep a job lying head crooked Hillary like those things stick Right, so we need to get involved in the culture in that level where where we're It's almost like, you know, look at what Anthony's doing You come just be straight up about it and and a part of that is you do need to get involved whether it's um you know attending Concerts or or or supporting musicians that it doesn't matter But but you need to be more culturally involved because younger people Reach out to me You know I'm saying and I'm always trying to make it clear. I'm like, you know, you're 30s. I'm 30 30 cool. Nice. Yeah, I'm 30. Welcome to the best decade of your life, man Thank you, brother Well, I mean, I get so many young people reach out to me because young people look at art They I mean they'll watch it But they really are influenced by people they think make amazing work Whether they're amazing rappers amazing musicians Amazing painters. I get so many DMs from young kids And they go, hey, you know, how do I do what you're doing? But a part of that is knowing that if they ask the wrong artist that they're gonna tell them I want you to read critical theory by What's your response pick up a paintbrush pussy? Get get painted I I tell them you need to I always tell them Kids will camp the actually and they'll say I want to paint a dragon being killed I'm like, okay. That's all great. But first learn how to fucking use your hand. Go draw a still life I mean, there's gotta be boring stuff first and that's the real reality of it. So Um, this is important for men to get back involved in the culture and the arts and a deep a sophisticated man The deeper pleasure is being a man of the arts and culture because it isn't a pretentious thing. It's actually a very You know foundational grounded thing. You're not there's no fake. There's nothing further going on You know, you're saying right where you are. Um Your your your interpretation of perspective is just as valid as some cerebral masters of feminist And their projection of the art, you know, it's just to take take that out of the picture and um, actually there's a quote by Roger scrutin, you know Roger scrutin I've heard the name, but I don't know. Yeah I was typing here pulling it up. Let me read this for you guys Um, he said when art becomes merely shock value our sense of humanity is slowly degraded The culture of a civilization is the art and literature through which it rises to consciousness of itself and defines a division of the world And that's how you have to look at it. You guys can control the direction of the culture as Art collectors, patients, whatever you name it and I gotta say Most art people are they're not all the left. The left is just shamelessly loud and vocal That's just a real problem by the most of my collectors. They're not on the left But here's a picking up notice if you're if you're a liberal collector And you find out this artist has a conservative election. They won't collect you anymore If you're a conservative collector, they don't care if they like your art. That's all bull is out to But that's a good thing because it shows their real sense of um, they're more open, but they're not vocal so everything comes out to speaking up and doing standing up for what's right and um, participating in cultural game Yeah, fuck. Yeah, man. It's it's uh, you know, people bitch about the culture war in this and that I mean It sucks in some ways other cultures You know collapsing as we've seen at least in my lifetime in your lifetime in America All these this all this fucking woke garbage right in the 90s. A lot of this didn't exist with some obviously with feminism We had pc culture that you know percolating up But at the same time, I think it's an amazing time in history to live I mean technologically it's fucking fantastic. We have toilet paper or the internet flight space, you know the fucking moon and shit like Things are pretty good, you know, it's been it's been worse obviously before so the same time It sucks the cultures, you know decaying in these ways. It's a great fight. We get to fight And I think there's still a lot of opportunity to win and come out victorious on top Uh for you know for our nation for the future and for the west So i'm excited man artists are heated Listen, I mean, um, I'm doing fighting the battle of ideas in the gallery, right? As americans, especially to the white man listening think about your your ancestors who fucking bled And and got the shit kicked out of them to be where you are now and you're afraid of some You need everyone to like you You need everyone to like you It's delusional how people yeah, they have no respect for their ancestor bloodline like what their ancestors went through I've thought about this of women for example that women today have more rights and privileges Then their entire line of maternal ancestors combined Dating back hundreds of thousands of years if you combine all of their rights and all their privileges up For 300 000 years The woman right now born, you know 25 years ago has more Then 300 000 years of women and they still bitch like they're like they're actually oppressed. It's insane It's fucking delusional, but men do the same thing Well women today are gonna are gonna are gonna die single than ever before man and and it's um It's it's such a sad thing because I've I've seen Yeah Like mine, I mean my cats dude. They're gonna eat them by cats in some cases literally They're they're gonna nibble up their toes and fucking eat them a lot. Oh, Jesus You know what happens when patriarchy comes into picture You know we we watch our daughters and then we make sure that they're nested with a good man You know that's that's the difference and It's just so sad because I see so many girls Because you know the hardest women in the world are in california new york city, right? Oh, well not out of the world in the united states because they all come here And and what I see is I see all these girls in their early 20s wasting their beauty Telling all the good guys to fuck off and then those good guys come to them when they're in their 30s now And I mean they go to those good guys When they're in their 30s now and it's they know i'm just gonna get a younger you now that I can You're telling me to fuck off the whole time You know, it's it's it's fucked in both directions. I mean the guys are too nice You know, they're decent men a lot of them are too nice It's men's fault actually it's men's fault at the end of the day because And I'm not talking about at the dating level I'm talking about at the inside the house level because the father might over extend his his um Is controlling a physical way and then she's gonna Counter that it must let or he might just not do it enough and then he's gonna And then she's gonna just feel like there's no limitations and rules Um, we're not we're not you know, it's I think the solution is Alpha is not about there's indicators muscles all that's all indicators And testosterone is too a big indicator but real it's it's A man who is willing to fight and stand up for what's right. I've said this like eight times out I probably saw like a tipper quarter, but I really do think so. I mean The ancients talk about how The alpha man is going to change from the man who has more power to the man who's able to speak the truth Wisdom is going to be a greater sign of being an alpha. This is one thing. I so like about you, man You come from that world You know, so you know that side too And and now and but but you understand like I know this like we can't expect women To fight for greater abstract social issues that they can't even talk to a guy that they like You know, I'm saying we have to go through to figure out very few of them Iron round would be an example in jannis fomango. You'll find out liar examples among I spoke to um Yeah, oh, oh, yeah, she's amazing. I love jenis She's amazing. She's my color the queen of anti-feminism. She's just if he's speaking at 22 convention for the ladies. Yeah Oh my god, I I've just spoken to her in a long time. I had a podcast that got cancelled when I was um um Doing doing one of my I used to be University level briefly and I left immediately and I was in a podcast at the time. I realized what I They said, you're not allowed to do that You are they're basically your own. You can't do other things like that and people and then um, yeah, I was done with that man That's my life, man. Just just um, I'm going good. They find out who I am That's why I'm in a manner for your brother That's contrast man. It's like your paintings dude's contrast. It's the ups and downs man. The yin yang Story of my life Why man, I appreciate you being on the show today. It's been a lot of fun It's been a very unique and novel episode for the rimman group episode 142 I look forward to meeting you man later this year in october in orlanda florida. It's been a good time Yeah, Anthony. I appreciate you man. Keep it up, brother. And um, you you're a good man Thanks, man. Thank you. Yeah, brother and your um your website is arthurquanlee.com. Everybody make sure you check that out Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go to alterquanlee.com and um, um my instagram is arthurquanlee I There's a there's a youtube situation being in a workspot. I'm so not in this game But I'm I'm learning a little bit of my littles, but it's all arthurquanlee Nice, I'm pulling up your instagram now too everybody go check them out arthurquanlee. I like the john wick The john wick thing you're like me and this is great. Yeah. Yeah. 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