 Welcome back to the fifth installment of TNT with myself Tyler Patner and Travis Patton from Airgun Depot We got together sat down talked about some hot topics in the industry back in June of 2019 Releasing the videos now for you guys to see today's video is all about airgun slugs and airguns only a mother could love check it out I I don't think they'll dominate the industry, but they'll move a lot more mainstream. I mean right now It's fringe is not the word, but it's a very small Percentage of the airgun and community that's shooting slugs. It's a really niche sort of aspect right now. It's a niche of a niche it is You know traditionally it's kind of been like well slugs are not as accurate, but for long distances They're they're more accurate Because they buck the wind better they've got better BC and so they're less affected by everything else But now they're getting to where you know, even at short ranges. They're they're nearly as accurate as pellets or can be For me I have mixed feelings about slugs Just because I think well what I what really got me to fall in love with airguns again was the fact that I could shoot him in my backyard I liked that Terrible BC because the pellet loses energy if I'm shooting one seven seven, you know in my backyard It's it's not going to go through anything because it's lost so much energy by the time it's gone 20 yards Whereas with a slug I mean it's retaining that energy and it's got a lot of punch your back stops have to be better and You know, you've got to be a lot more conscious about that. Sure. So right now being a kind of niche thing, right? Cost the cost is is somewhat high. I would say I mean from what I've seen at least so relatively speaking compared to pellets Yeah, exactly. Um, so for for me, I don't think I can embrace it I understand the benefits from a ballistics perspective absolutely and what they do in the right barrel at distance compared to what a pellet can do at that same distance is You just can't argue it and I wouldn't even try but because of where the cost is at They'll never dominate pellets and I don't think you'll be able to get that cost down that much a lot of this has to Do though, I think with two things number one is that right now it's a niche thing So yes, it's gonna gain popularity I agree with you a hundred percent as people want to start extending the distances and and looking for just the very best accuracy But this is all led by the manufacturers of guns so for pellet manufacturers JSP and H&N are a perfect example both have Said that they're pursuing slugs at this point in time. So that right there will bring the cost down just by having these major players get into it, but Right now we have one or two companies really in the industry gun-wise that are trying to push slugs And and I think you you have to see more manufacturers get on board with that before it's really gonna Have any sort of long lifespan because right now if it if you have to buy a $2,000 gun or $1,000 gun to get into that That's tough. You're talking about a small segment of the airgun market, you know And nobody's talking about making a slug for a spring gun Right or making a slug that works in a spring gun barrel. So, you know, some of those things could completely change this conversation But right now it's just a a niche. Yeah, that's the way I see it Yeah, I mean the constraints are on how the barrel is made, right? Right, I mean if it's got a really aggressive choke, then it's generally just not gonna shoot out So there's a couple for me. Yeah, but I think I've two in my head right now. Yeah, I mean the For me the Benjamin Bulldog Is in one of these guns that just I Understand where you're coming from. I don't necessarily agree like I'm not saying it's a great-looking gun, but it's also certainly not the worst Like for me like the avonix rainstorm 3d and then also like I think borrowing from that the crawl puncher armor Like just hideous. I mean and the crawl puncher armor is worse Because it's just like got the bit screwed on I think it's Philip had this thing that they decide like deciding to do colors Was a bad idea like should have just done a gun metal gray or a black and call it a weekend, you know Yeah, that's a nobody wants a pink Gun made out of sheet metal the other one for me. There's a Chinese gun It's a QB and I think you have one because I believe it was a stranger guns thing at one point in time And you know you brought it lovely Do you agree? What is it like, you know this this is so Ugly that you almost like it You know what I mean? It's it's kind of like it's it's it's kind of like that That ugly kid next door who really has kind of a good personality But it takes years for you to realize it because you can't look at him. That was really hidden You know this is this is one of those guns that I mean you just think No So doesn't this also take down Yeah, like I'm pretty sure it does like Who was on what kind of drugs when they came up with this idea, but I more people should take that stuff Yeah, I mean that that's just now. You know what? I don't even want to touch it actually Yeah, that definitely takes the cake for me though. That's a side liver take down That's the only good part about it though is that it's a side lover Springer, yeah Somebody put this $2 scope on top. That's the way it should be. Yeah, this is this is it Yeah, for me, that's absolutely. I mean if anyone has a better one. I want to see it. Yes, and it's actual production Of course, we don't care if it's when you made your backyard send pictures to yeah Unless it's all made out of PVC and wood then we don't care But like an actual air gun that'd be interesting to see yeah Thanks for joining us today for this episode of tnt. We appreciate you guys watching if you liked the video Go ahead hit us with a like down below Let us know what you thought about our take on the airgun slugs and where they're going in the industry as well as some of the Ugliest air guns do you agree with us? Do you disagree? Let us know down in the comments and don't forget to subscribe to both channels So you stay up to date on all the latest tnt footage. We'll see you guys next time