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And I think there's parts in this game that show that a little bit. But the consistency certainly home is there now. Yeah, I mean, what would he have done, you know, same when I'd done the predicted starting 11. And thanks for all the lovely comments about the FIFA Carter, by the way, it's good. It snidled him as in there and the only other option I shed at the time was potentially putting Tom in there, alongside Ghana. But it's difficult to suppose for a manager because the clubs were on a good run, it's certainly a good decision. And if you start messing and making three or four changes and the rhythm of the team goes and barely turning up tonight and beat us, then you finish the season on a bit of a downer and you lose a bit of momentum. And don't forget that every place is money, isn't it? Yeah, you know, so... Well, no, I think we spoke about this in the preview. There's still a chance to get your... There is. We were in our last game and Wolves don't, you know, pick up three points in the last two games and other results go our way. We get seven plays, you can't be... You can't be digging about with that. The only thing I... I mean, I wasn't really thinking about Snidlin, Tom Davis. The position I was thinking of is more just with Charleston after seeing him go off. He's obviously playing through the pain barrier and it only took really one whack to his ribs to take him off. And that was the only really position I was thinking of that would have been up for grabs tonight. But that's what I was saying about when you've got a squad and you need to... When you need to use your squad because you've got injuries or suspensions or you've got a player who's injured and you can say, you know what, we've got a ready-made replacement there so you can go out this week. But the manager at this point, and it's a good point to have it going into the summer, doesn't feel like he's got that at the moment, doesn't feel like he's got that flexibility. He knows he's got players, he just hasn't got players that fit the system like that's starting 11-10. Yeah, and the thing with Charleston is he was worth the risk wasn't he? Because we should go the first goal from it, albeit it's been given as an own goal. It must go on wide to be fair to him. But, see, who's to say it wouldn't have bent back? He doesn't know. I mean, I like... What about if Roberto Carlos was free kick against France in the torn wall? That's on wide. If that hit a deflection and gone in, people might have said, Well, it was going wide anyway. Who's a deflector if it would have hit a deflection? Yeah. Do you mean if it would have deflected? No, they had a player called... Deflection! Deflection! Be careful with the deflection! Listen, if Charleston doesn't take the shot, we don't score the goal. So, for me, it's his goal, and I haven't given it a throw. I don't need to care about anything else. Yeah, but he looked quite lively till he got that whack Didn't he after about half an hour, and he was kind of gingerly approaching it? Why is that a... Why are you using that word? That's our word! That is our word! And you can't use it. You can't use our word. I can use that word all I want, but you can't use that word. You've often said, Oh, that's a grey area, and I've been fuming. You've been like it fuming sides. I just didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to get it out. Oh, what shall I say? I mean, we live in a world... Using my grey matter. We live in a world where that's the state of play. Listen, I know what you're saying, and the Buddha being a... You see, the problem is, and you've just actually hit the nail on the head with it, is that it isn't that we haven't got some good plays you're on in the team. It's just that you just don't fit the way you play. You know, and Theo Walcott come on in the second half, and he done little bits, but in general, our system and the way we play just changed totally. The dynamic changed. It does, it does. I mean, sometimes, I mean, just on the point, sometimes you want players who change the way you play. I mean, that's what, but... Not when you're in a rhythm. And also, not when it's a forced, a forced sub-radiant. You want players to come on. Well, sub-sometimes are forced. But that's something you want to change. You want to change the game sometimes to go your way by offering something a little bit different. But if you're playing well and you just want to keep playing well, you want to... I mean, that's the most notable thing about Calvin Learne in the last few weeks is that it doesn't really matter. As long as he's doing what he's doing and helping the team, the manager will go, he's probably not going to say, well, hang on, you've missed that chance and this chance. You can't really afford to do that, because Dominic Armonoun offers so much in terms of what he brings to the whole team. But that, you know, that's what they'll be looking at in the summer, I imagine. You know, big fella there, me dad making comments there. It's a good feeling heading for next season, right direction at last. It's exactly what I said the full time and I don't want to say too much because things often, with everything, bump, bump. No, you're right. I think that for us now, with the team is that in tune with what the manager wants. You can see that. It does take the odd thing. If you can't replace like for like, Dominic Armonoun is a perfect example because everything outside the penalty area is brilliant what he does. It's just that he doesn't look like he can buy a goal because the chances he misses, he's got part of a puff shot in the box and then the one that rolled back to him, he had to hit the box, he hit it off the steering. And there's no, he's got no composure at all and that, he's got to learn, but everything else outside the box, his touch, his head is the way he holds it up, is brilliant. But to go probably closer to where we want to be, he's either going to have to start getting himself in the box and taking chances, but we're also going to have to buy one, maybe two strikers to battle it out with him as well. But what really impressed me tonight, Dominic, was the way we started the game. Yeah. We started the game at such a fast pace that they just couldn't live with us. And I think the first 15 minutes or 20 minutes, they put the possession stats on, I think it was 93%. No. Which is, what's it? Yeah, which is absolutely bizarre. Maybe not 15, but it was 93. And Andrew sits next to me, we're like, 93, but it felt like they literally were just kicking the ball out or away and we were coming after them again. And that really impressed me. If we can take that thing forward into next season, then this team could do something. It was intense. Well, it was really, first 15 minutes or so, first 20 minutes, we really did lay siege, not necessarily to their goal, but just in possession like you just said, we just had the ball. We were looking at the ways we could obviously get behind them as part, because they came with a plan, they came with one off-run towards, and he literally, I mean, that's the perfect name for them, by the way. And, well, where are the fans playing? The fans play a bit deeper, but he doesn't eat there. But he's a unit as well. That's true. And then you've got loads of runners. And obviously, the way they play, like obviously the pressing game is a big thing now for a lot of sides, so as soon as the opposition get the ball, they will press. They're like, it's not quite the opposite, but the way they look at it is, as soon as you get the ball, they get back into their shape as fast as they can. So it's a slightly different thing. They try and get straight back in their shape and they say to you, you know what? You can have the ball, try and break his down. And that's where it slightly disappointed me, second half, just jumping in, there's that. Second half, for me, I thought we played far too much into their strength by starting to just throw balls into the box, which they could deal with all day. But in the first 20 minutes, we were probing and really trying to just look at different ways we could get behind them. And the first go-up, I mean, what's great about the first go-up? We talked Dom and Calvin, they've been, I think with Charleston in almost in the right back position, he puts a ball into Dom, Dom goes down the line for them. Dom then holds it up, comes in, and with Charleston makes a beeline to go central. And that shows the flexibility of having a proper front three, not just a striker and two people who play either side of him. It's a proper front three, with Charleston goes central to the space that Dom's left. Get it out of his feet and has a shot. And I mentioned on my play of ratings is that, whether it's his goal, whether they say it's his goal or it's not his goal, it's his goal because, or it's such a well-waked, almost from the train and grand goal. And you know what? So what if it took a nick? Sometimes things do need to take a nick to just to open a game up. And luckily enough, it took the nick. I mean, who's to say it wouldn't have gone in anyway? And it's gone in the back of the net. And I thought, as soon as that went in the back of the net, I thought, right, come relax now. Because it's not going to be, I mean, I've sat through the 90 minutes of Crystal Palace where we toughed and puffed, where we probably needed that kind of little bit of luck on the day, but we've got that now. Because it was funny because I was sitting here, I was watching and thinking, we've actually gone past the time in the game where we'd scored against United and Arsenal. And I was thinking, that's quite interesting, that. You know, you're playing the team like barely, but it wasn't long until we got in the lead. And I thought, once we got in the lead, I just thought, yeah, we'll be all right here. Yeah, it was the measure of the goal as well, like you say, the ball bent down the line. Dom's show brilliantly held it up, bought some self some time, you know, come back inside. And when you do that, and yeah, I've got that flew with front three. That's what we've been talking about when you play. You see, this is the other thing that's what the manager's done really well and Marcel Brands as well. But we've tried to play this way ever since David Moyes left. Yeah. We tried to play with a four, three, three ever since Moyes left. And it's never, ever been, it's always been what Moyes' formation was, which is essentially four or five months. And we tried a bit wrong and we couldn't do it wrong. How many times has Ron isolated playing for us? You know, when Ron went and Riuni was up there on his own, it didn't work. And then he's huffed and puffed with that. But now, because of Bernard and because of Ritualison, you've got a legitimate front three. Yeah. And a front three that are flew with, all right, you know, in general Bernard will stay where he is on the left. Yeah, he'll hug only. But, but Ritualison and Dom, because Dom is prepared to run out wide as well, it does give you that flew with the team. When you've got people who interchange, you know, front three, that's what a four, three, three is. A four, three, three is what Bernliad. Bernliad, a four, four, one, one, really. But, you know, it was more like eight, not one. Yeah. Although, whatever it was, eight, one, one. But, you know, the goal give us that, give us that little bit of, yeah, just like a little pat on the back of, yeah, lads, you know what you're doing. And then we go and get the second goal. And I believe Coleman is the 20th ever in play to score 20 goals and he scored in the 20th minute. Apparently, so there you go. But that was another, that was another patient build up, though. You know, when, again. What we didn't do is, we didn't allow them to just get rid of it. No. It was golf, football, we moved it, there was a couple of shots, it bounced around a little bit, Dean had already thrown one in. Mm-hmm. And he comes back to him. Yeah, he comes back, doesn't he? And he has another, and it's a great striker, to be honest, a goal. The goal's safe, you know. A goal. Was it? Yeah, you know why? Because he thinks it's going low and it doesn't. It stays up and he has to react with the hand. And... Okay. I thought... I mean, what was shame is different. Well, I thought, I thought Seamus was going to be offside. And I've looked at it again, he's not offside clearly. And he was at, you know, he's done the post-match and I heard him. And he just said, you know what? Tim Kale actually said to him, you held your line like a centre forward and he was like, well, I'm a defender. I should know all about the line. Yeah. Spot on. You know, he said, you know. And what was great about that goal was, it's your left back creating a goal for you, right back, okay? Unfortunous situation, but it's like, that's what you want. That's like the first season of Martin's. You know, Bains to Coleman and that's what, you know, that's what you want. They're the... I mean, it makes such a difference when your full backs are creating goals for your other full backs. That's where you're like, yeah, this is actually working. This is, we're doing all right here. Because to be fair, in the first, I would love to see the heat map of the first 20 minutes of our full backs because I would imagine they were almost like another set of wingers because they were so high up the pitch. It was absolutely incredible. I mean, as I said, the heat maps as we speak. Literally looking as we speak. I mean, it's no good for the viewer, but... No, not good for us. But that was 2-0. And it was funny after they went 2-0 because they had to make, I mean, the heat maps essentially just looks like Predator 1 and Predator 2. Yeah, there's your heat map for the game. So they were, yeah. So literally the full backs were camped on the edge. Basically playing on the edge, in the first half. But it's funny because when we went 2-0, and they had to change it, they actually started playing like decent football. And they said, they're not my team and I can't speak for them and I can't, you know, this squad's not great and you do the best with the can and I've got fair play to them for what they do. But you just looked at them when they started playing and thinking, these are actually all like these. These are probably win a few games if you just let them play now and again. But I suppose... But it's built on being tight, though, isn't it, and being awkward and being... Yes, he could be more expansive, but he's not going to because it's... You know, he does what he does, doesn't he? No, it's not. I wouldn't want to watch it every week, but that's not what it's like. We have watched it. No, I know. I know when it was painful, you know, and that was one of the things... We were speaking about walking out to stadiums like 12 months ago, coming way to get out again. Well, yeah, we'll talk about that later. But 2-0 up and I think... We didn't have... We had Guilfee's chance where he... I don't know what he was doing. Yeah, I think he thought, probably, I'll smash this and it'll just arrow into the top corner. And he just got it wrong. And maybe if he'd laid it back or... He just cut it across, it was 3-0. I thought if he'd just hit it without trying to whack it. But he went for something else. Yeah. Tackle on Morgansnan by Westwood. Herendis, have you not seen this? No, I've not seen this. Right, Card, my Herendis challenge. Studs just... Yeah, on the side. Balls know it. Morgans get to the ball, he goes right over the top. And the referee... I thought he was going to give Burnley the free kick, because Nidolin, when he got the ball, his feet are on the floor. Westwoods is up, yeah. And I spoke to David Prutt in the last time and it was, he said, it was a red card. And then, sure, again, it was a proper red. And incidentally, I don't think the referee gave the yellow. I think the fourth official gave the yellow because Silva and Coleman ran over to the line of Masarki with the fourth official because it was a Herendis tackle. Should have been straight, that, honestly, it was very bad. And luckily, you know, it was on the fleshy bit of your leg, so... I mean, to be fair, the whole of my leg is the fleshy bit. Well, the years off, so he's seen it, I've been fine. But what I mean is, if it was Lowe and Dan, he went to bat an issue, but it was, you know, luckily, he was OK, but he was a moan a little. He was all, like, that Westwood. The referee should have ended the challenge. Yeah, that's exactly what he is. But talking about Snydlin, Snydlin had a good game, didn't he? Because I thought tonight, Garnet had a little bit more license to go forward. And I thought, Snydlin, where we'd said to him in the last couple of weeks, maybe, that you don't notice him. So it's a case of not, you don't notice him in a game. So it's like, well, he's played well if you don't really notice him. But tonight, I thought he was a lot more notable because he played more of the role that Garnet normally played. And Garnet still did a little bit of it and did break up play a little bit. But I just thought tonight he had just a little bit more license just because of who we were up against and we were playing at home. I thought he was a man of the matter, to be honest. I thought he stood out. I thought the two centre backs were fantastic because they were up against, OK, not the most skillful players, but too lad to give you the game and you know you have to battle with them. But I thought, Snydlin was brilliant, I really did. I thought everything he did was excellent and he kept it going. And he looked like when he first came in and he was just keeping the tempo, keeping the tempo. And he was carrying the phone, getting it back. And he was always on for a pass. And I think when you've got someone who always makes themselves available for a pass it makes everybody else's job easier. He didn't hide. And I just, listen, you know, we said last season he didn't impress us with his attitude last season. You know, that's probably put me kindly. You know, you were out in Leon when he got sent off and you said you didn't want to see him again. I think a lot of Evertonians felt exactly the same. And then we had the whole Morales and, you know, Duncan's sending him the training or whatever it was. And, you know, he seemed like public enemy number one, didn't he? Because we'd seen how good he was when he first came in and then the drop-off was whatever. But this season, and we know he's had some problems this year, but I think it's testing into the manager the fact that he hasn't been in all the time. And yet when he's come in, he's performed, that's really difficult. You know, some players just simply can't do it. But he came back in a cardiff and everyone was like, what the... And you have to say, he hasn't put a foot wrong in the games he's played really. No, he hasn't, he hasn't. And I honestly think if he'd have come on at Newcastle, we'd have won the game. I think that's the funny thing, isn't it? When we played Newcastle, you know, I know straight away, that day was my thought straight away. I know they were the thought of a lot of people saying, well, really, that's the sub, it should have been. It should have been putting him in the field and snuff it out. Don't put me in it, because all you're doing is inviting Newcastle to keep doing what they're doing. It was him, he's got the experience to go, no, no, we'll put a lid on this. And I think in that, I think, listen, sometimes you've got to learn, you've got to learn from your mistakes, and I think Silver, Silver seems to be the manager who will learn from his mistakes, who is learning from mistakes, he's done that all season, I think. And I think that's the, that's the thing. That's the thing, I suppose. And a lot of, you know, with managers, when people say, well, give them time, I think if you give a manager time, but he keeps on repeating the same mistakes, like a, say, a Spanish manager, then what can you say as a fan, or even a pundit or anyone else? If you're seeing the same mistakes, week in and week out, you've got to, all you can say is, well, he's either going to change or he goes, and if someone isn't prepared to change, then you go, where is Michael Silver in this year? Listen, I mean, it's too short of time anyway, realistically. But I think that he's looked at the situation and gone, right, I can, I don't, let's just change something. Don't keep trying to do something till it's done to death. You've got to be flexible as a manager, you've got to be, you know, you've got to know your own mind, of course you have, but you've still got to be flexible. You've got to, when you watch the Man City documentary and Pep's got a guy who he works with, who basically, he's got a job at Man City, all he does, by the looks of it, is he's the only person who Pep is prepared to listen to him, because he's the only guy who will just tell him how it is. And he's not even a football guy, he was in water polo or something like that. He was, yeah, he's in an external sport. Yeah, and he was just like, he's the only person that Pep listened to because he knows that, he doesn't bullshit, he just tells him how it is. And I think, you know, I'm sure there's people like that at the club anyway, and that's why people tend to keep the coaches and stuff around them, but... But you do need that, you do need someone who will say, no, you're wrong, I don't agree with that, and this is why. No, you don't need yeshmen in football, and unfortunately, we had a... Great start, by Joel McKibben. We haven't conceded a goal by Morgan. Snellan's been on the pitch since Cardiff away. Yeah, cos he wasn't on, I think Newcastle didn't play the game full on me, he was injured, wasn't he? Or he wasn't involved with full on, so... Which is mad, they're the only goals we've conceded, isn't it? Yeah, five goals. No, but I'm saying it's mad, isn't it? It's like, what, nine games? It's like seven wins, six wins, isn't it? One draw and see the feats, so... It's been fantastic, I mean, the last five home games, you know, went city, since city beat us. We have not conceded a goal, we've won four and draw one, so... Yeah, Snellan was excellent, and the midfielders looked so solid, didn't it? And I think we got to half-time, I think the frustrating thing, if you were going to be a little bit frustrated, was we hadn't had that to the two, it was only two, cos you're thinking, if they get one, it could make it a bit awkward when the game really should have been off the set. Isn't that what we've been calling for, though, like a bit of game management? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get to half-time, come out. He has a fan out, of course, if you get out, come... Oh, half-time comes, come out. And to be fair, we started, I get, not at the same tempo, we started the first half, but we started quickly going for them, and then it sort of just started dropping off then, didn't it? And when they put two, they had two up front, and it was almost like, it was like a little bit, we were being a bit cautious, and they were being, obviously, a lot more K-free. I thought we just become sloppy. And that's what I'm saying, but that's where it started, that's what I'm saying, that's where it started. It started by them being a little bit more ambitious, and then they started to win the 50-50s, and then what we started to do, or what I certainly thought we started to do, is we started trying the Hollywood passes, the passes that we're in on, and again, not doing, which is what we should have done against Fulham, and what we should have done in a lot of games is, just slowing the game down for five minutes, and just making sure everything was right, and even though you might go anywhere, you just take this thing out of the game, and they run around a lot, and don't touch the ball for a couple of minutes, and they're like, whereas when you get the ball, and then you just keep giving it back to them, you're the one who's likely to get tired, because you're one of them. That's what they did to us early on, didn't they? They were just giving us the ball back, and we don't, I mean, Brian Gardner on Peyton A said, the commentator's on the Premier League, he was saying, we look like Man City, I couldn't believe the praise we gave, and in that first 20 minutes, we did look like Man City, we just looked like, and I've seen Liverpool, it was just intensity, intensity. Second half, I think, obviously we lost the challenge in the two minutes into the second half, he went down again, and that was it. And then Theo come on, and it's just not the same. Straight lines, isn't it? Yeah, it's not the same. And we don't get on, to be honest, the amount of times he made the running behind, and Coleman didn't give him a... Coleman slowed it down, he's wasted then, because he's not one that comes short and saying so. But we started, you're right, we started, cigarettes and twice, we had great breaks, and he's trying to fire balls through it. And you think, and Bernad did the same, and you're like, just keep doing everything right. And I know, listen, this is what they're doing, and it builds confidence, and the confidence to do it, and but sometimes, like Bernad was doing the lovely back heel, we love them doing, but almost for the sake of it, right in the second half, and it's like, don't need to do that, just keep doing it. Just keep the ball. So when you're, and I think the other thing as well, certainly what I felt was, it was so easy, that when it's that easy, you do drop your level because like a little, lacks of concentration slipping, and they did step it up a little bit fair play to them and try to rush us a little bit more, but they were limited like you said. Well, that would add a couple of half chances, didn't he? He had the one where, well, he'd had the goal given for offside in the first half, I know. And then there was one where he got the ball and he knocked it too far ahead of him, and Pickford got it, and there was another one where he hit straight to Pickford, I think. That was the only shot. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the only shot he had. So they had those little moments. Well, they had one where they broke three on one and Sniadling got back and made an unbelievable interception. But you know, it was funny because I was sitting here and I was thinking, if we were in seventh now, I would be, I would be, my bottle would be gone, but because it felt like it was really not on the game. I was just sitting back on, yeah, it'd be all right. But I was thinking, if this had been like November, or this had been, or we were in seventh right now, I'd be like, my anxiety would have been through the roof because, but isn't it good that the confidence, you're saying that now, right? And I remember sitting here and we were like, I don't know how we're not gonna can see the goal because we just looked so frail. But now, when that second goal went in, I was like, it's done. Even if they score, we'll score again. To that confidence. And what that does then is, as fans and as a fan base, it takes everyone down a level so that anxiety doesn't filter through. And I think as a player, the players, it's the belief, like we beat Arsenal 1-0, so we scored early on and we kept the clean. I do think there were times in the second half where they did just, we were sloppy. We were really sloppy. And because, listen, and it was last game, last game of the season, it's always dead funny because after going on, they're just waiting to get off of one of our pints. Let's be honest, they always are. And it's like, can we just win the game and go home, please? Or go off for a pint, please? It almost doesn't help, create an atmosphere or anything. The atmosphere when they came out at the start was great. But then there was times in the second half where they were just a lull because it was like we weren't doing enough. That's the same way. But as a fan, you're just sitting there and because you didn't know, you tune it up and you think, well, we'll win this. And it was just one of those games. And as I say, we had a little nervy moment, but then he brought Luchman on. I thought he added something to the game. I thought he was just, he didn't add anything in terms of a goal. But what I mean, he started running at them and I think he did give them something to think about. Whereas when I went off and with the Charleston sub, well, that's enforced and you don't want that because the Charleston playing well. But I did think Luchman added something and he started running at them. You obviously hit the bar. He really should have scored after Wolcott should have scored again. I mean, what, you know, why can't professional footballers hit a ball hard? Well, Wolcott and Calvert-Lewan, they've got the Alzheimer's syndrome. Leon would like the power of it. The power of a baby in his shot, every one of them. I see in the video, when are those kids today hit a ball hard? Luchman hits one from 20 yards, it racks the bar and goes over. Eight yards out. It's like a back passing. You're like, what is going on? I just thought when he come on, first of all, did the shot not fit him? He was messed with the shot the whole game when he came on. He looked like a face. I just looked at him and thought, don't even look interested. But then after about five minutes, he started like getting into it then and it was probably just took him a bit of time to warm up and then he did it. What he does brilliantly is he moves the ball, manipulates the ball so well. He's not lightning, because he doesn't, he's not a runner. He runs with the ball, but he's not wanting to knock it past the master. He's a dribbler, isn't he? And he can, he can turn, he's got really quick feet. And that's what you want to see in driving, driving at them. So he did that something, he gave them something different to think about. But you still look at him and go, is he a starter for us? And he's not, in my opinion. I couldn't see him replacing Benard. But I think that's what we were talking about last week, when we were on one of the shows and we were saying about, that's what everyone in Europe gives you, is the ability to allow players like him, games in him and other players, that's why you want Europe is because of those players. Doesn't ever look happy. No, he doesn't. I feel when he was walking around at the end, he gave his top to someone. He's just strange, he's just luck. He's strange in terms of just, he doesn't reflect outwards. You don't know what he's ever feeling, because he doesn't seem to reflect outwards. I mean, you look at people like Mina, I mean Mina, walking around the pitch at the end, they're all 20 yards behind everyone else. They just hung off on me, this is my time. Basically strutting around with the thriller jacket on. Yeah. Incredible scenes, absolutely incredible scenes. And you see him, he's smiling, you see other players. Gomez, Gomez is working in the club shop, incredible, absolutely, you know, he's doing his double shift. That is literally that commitment, isn't it? Double shift. And I thought Colman, you know, Colman and Luca Dain, they're just delighted, and I think what he's done is, what he's done as well to his credit, the manager, and I think he does deserve big credit for this, is that when you look at that team, there seems to be a real team spirit there now, that I have not seen for a few years, a prophet, not saying people didn't like each other but there seems to be a real... But how can you forge your teams, Bill, when the turnover is so high? I mean, this, let's be honest. I'm talking, I'm talking, probably, maybe Martin as his first year. That's the last time I've seen a team so together, and that was probably running on from David Moyes as well, with a few new... Just if you look at them, look at the gold, look at the, there's a picture of Dain and Colman, when Colman scored in a pair of them, and just little things that you see on it, and every player's involved. I just think the managers obviously worked really hard, and something Moyes was blob on with it, and he had to be, and it was like, you get the dressing room, right, you're halfway there, and I think this manager has a similar... Yeah, you run through brick walls for each other, you do the exiting for each other. Listen, in this league, it makes a massive difference, but you're right, at second half, there was a lull and it gave them a little bit of impetus, you know, but then we stepped it back up again, got control of it again, I thought, for the last 20, and we started then looking at, like you say, made a difference and give them a different thing to worry about. But I just want to talk about Walcott, because he come on, and I'm not saying, he doesn't come on and hide, but I don't... For this team, I just don't know what... Do you think, I know what you're trying to say, but you're just not saying it. Do you think that's the cut in us? Do you think the problem is, right, do you think the big problem is, and I think this is the big problem, is that the style of play simply does not suit the player. So he looks like, he's like, imagine it all being a jigsaw, right, and you've got this little space left, and the space is like, you know, and he's the opposite of that, and it just doesn't fit. It's the space, like, one of the pieces where they're all sticking out. And then, you know what I mean? The four bits, there's like four holes that goes into it, and he's like three holes in a one. It's just not working. Essentially, it just doesn't fit into the way we play. So therefore, when we move the ball, and the way the charlots, the charlots moves, and he comes inside, and he's got cut, he holds it up, he holds the ball up. I mean, look at the charlots, right, the charlots are never, ever. Like, you never, you very rarely see the charlots and get the ball and go, right, I'm taking you on a flat pace. What he does is, he slows the game down, and that allows a lot of the time, for Sheamus to go round the side of him, and then he can go, go then, because he's intelligent and he's quick. Strong. You never, ever see Wolcott get the ball, stop, and then think about what other people are doing. Wolcott's entire game for the whole of his career has been about getting the ball, and I will run faster than you with the ball, and for a long time he could do that. Now he can't do it. Now he's 30 years of age, and he's going up against 21-year-olds. He went on a great little run there at the end. Yeah, what did he do at the end of it? What did he do at the end of it? He just played a terrible pass, and it went to there play. And that's what I'm saying, with charlots and Wolcott, you won plays with, see, that run, right, what you want them to do is you want them to run, and you take a couple on, and then you go, right, now I'll hit the space, run towards the space, but if the rest of the team are set up in a way that it's enshrining is that we do this, we do this, we do this, how can you work with a player who simply doesn't know how to play? That's it. Like, if he came on and came on and went, right, I'm going to trust my game to play a little bit more like the player I've just replaced. You'd go, you're giving the benefit of that, but he doesn't. He just wants to play like Wolcott, because he's played like that for 14 years in the Premier League. And what can you do about that? Nothing. Old dog, new tricks and all that. I don't want to say that he lacks football ability, and I don't want to say he lacks a football brain. But you're going to. No. I don't think he lacks football ability, but I think the brain, but it might be. I just think probably what it is, is he's just used to playing a certain way, that suit of them, isn't he? And this is a little bit different, and he's not, we're not getting the best out of him. And so that's the decision that needs to be made this summer. If, you know, if someone comes in, is that for the amount of times that he's done something for us this season, really coming off the bench, he's scored against United, but other than that, has he really changed anything? I honestly believe that if someone, let's just say Southampton came for him. Now, let's say Southampton said, right, we need to send her forward, who is a ball over the top, who will work hard, who will try and, you know, forage from the front and press from the front. He would do the majority, he'd do them a job, but our manager clearly doesn't see Wokoth as an option playing up front. I mean, something we spoke about earlier in the season, but he obviously does not see him, because what he must look at again is about the jigsaw. You look at Don, what, now, since Don's been up front, all right, we can talk about all the negative things, right, but the positive things are huge in terms of how he lets the rest of the team play. And that's a huge factor. And I said it on, I think I said it on my player ratings video, isn't it? We've actually come to the stage now where that it's almost like we've accepted how good he's become as a centre forward as doing that role, that now people are asking for more, but don't lose sight of the job he does, though, because it's a very, very unselfish job, Dominic Harman doing those for the rest of the team. And that first goal proves it. And he'll take a lot of stick-off, a lot of people who call him a championship player and all the rest of it, he's not. Because that job requires self-sacrifice that some people simply wouldn't give. Well, I'm gonna ask yourself the question. They had a lot of front, both of them, strikers have scored double figures this season, them two off front, I won't swap them for either of them. They're to me, and it's probably been a bit disrespectful, but they look like, in compared to other Premier League strikers, they look like championship strikers, big, strong, good at what they do. You can get a tune out of them, but what I'm saying, what I'm saying... Well, I think Dom's got more to his game. What I'm talking about is that Dom is, like, the big piece in the jigsaw for the way the team plays at the moment. What you've got to do is go out and find the same shape jigsaw, just, but it's made out of gold, right? And that's fair enough. Problem is, is that, Wolcott does, the way he plays just doesn't seem to fit any of the positions. And if it fit, if it fit one, I'd probably say it fit left side of the three, but he's not Benaz, and he wouldn't work. And then you'd say he wouldn't work with Luka, don't you? He wouldn't work with Luka, do you? But if I wanted him in one of those positions, I'd want him cutting in on his right foot, because the goalie's going to be united, and the one he missed tonight, prove that he's better coming off the left when he can almost do the theory on refinish. Well, he's... It's all bad, then. First down game. He missed the chance off one of the greatest moves ever, and he put it wide. If you remember, he laid the goalie down and put it wide off the right-hand side, where if it was on the other corner, he'd have just bent it in, wouldn't he? But you're right, it is what it is with him. I mean, there was a third substitute. Now, Dominic Alvett-Lewin was blown for tucks. With 10 minutes left, he'd been battered a little bit by Tarkovsky and Ben maybe gave him a few whacks. You know, all parts of it, not in, you know, sinners, they're just part of being a hold-up striker against tough defenders, and he looked like he was limping a little bit, you know... I nearly said the word again. He looked like he was limping. And I thought Towson was coming on. Towson was warming up vigorously. Like, you did, if you were ever subbed, you were going to catch the man as a shy. But I don't know whether he'd used enough spray or whatever. But, now... And then it was Phil-Jack Elcher. And it was Phil-Jack Elcher, for no reason whatsoever, because it wasn't 2-1, and they put out... Yeah, 2-0, 90th minute. 2-0, 90th minute. It should have been Jack Towson or Tom Davis, really. And it was Jack's. And... Ever none saying it. But the crowd certainly thought it. Thought it. And the manager, for me, that was the message that this is the last time you're going to see Jack's in a blue shirt at Goddison Park. That's what I took from it. And I believe he was a little bit tiered, well, potentially tiering up in an interview off the train. I could be it. And, if it is, the crowd reception forum was fantastic, singing his name. And he's been an incredible sign in what was a £4 million and £4 million from Sheffield. But what great manager it would be, though, if he does stay. Because the way I looked at it was, of course, listen, of course, the chances are that the manager might be thinking, I don't want you, right? OK. But what if he's like, well, I did it because I simply don't know. I know about Leighton Baines, Leighton Baines is staying. Baines is staying. I mean, Baines is staying. But let's say Baines is staying. I know that. I know that. So I don't need to worry about that. But I don't know. And this is, this could be your last time I go to St Parker's and never play. So the three minutes to go, we'll tune it up. I haven't made any song and dance about it. I haven't made sentimental thing. I'm just going to put you on. But it is sent. No, I know it is. I know it is. But he didn't say before, like, there's not in, like, you know what I mean? Like, didn't say in the press conference, if I get a chance, I'll give Jags for like two minutes. You know, he came on, Tram has given him the armband and he got on and he just played and he played the game and he made a couple of clearances. And if Jags goes back to the change room and or whatever and he's speaking to the manager, the manager's like, well, you haven't signed a deal for all I know. You might want to leave, but I had to give you. Well, in terms of management, I think that's great management to pay respect, just in case. Just in case he doesn't sign. I think it's great management anyway, even if it is the end of it. And he's made that decision, if Michael Silver's like, listen, you know, because I think Phil Jagielke is probably himself thinking I've got a year left. Right? Now at the end of the day, what's the point in him staying at Everton if he thinks he wants to play for another season? You're a long time retired. So if he thinks I want one more season, you know Arsenal gave me that the other week when I scored, it gave me the taste for playing. And he looks and goes to Michael Silver, am I going to play? And the manager's like, well, if K2 stays, I'm meaner and keener, my three. And then we've got Mason Holgate coming back. You know, you're just simply not going to play unless there's an emergency. Now Sheffield United and I'm using them because he's played before and you've just got promoted. They could say to him, that Chris Wilder could be like, listen, I want you to play 20 games at least next season for me because we're going to need a leader. We haven't got big pots of money to spend. We need a leader with experience, not against the top six or top seven, we can write them off forever, but against the bottom six, which they're like a card that we haven't done well enough in Fulham. And see how Gielke's got that experience. So I think for him, it'd be a shit, I'd be, listen, I'd be gutted if he leaves because I've loved him and he's been. Okay, yeah, people will criticise his captaincy because we haven't won anything or because he's not the most vocal. But for four million quid as a centre back, we've had him for 12 years, he's been incredible. And I love him for 11 years or whatever it is. I love him. I think he's just, and he always looks great when he comes back for pre-season, but it's time. But, and I hope he ends up back at the club, I really do know this is a kid that was at the club and left and we had to pay to get him back. But for him, you know, a long time, we try and if he can go and get 15 to 20 games have another Premier League club then he should do that really because he's not going to play in our first team. It's as simple as that. But it's not, but if it was the end then it was a nice end and if you leave them with a nice thing that, you know, there's no hard feelings, it's a professional decision, but I'll give you something. He's 36, he's not 27, it's time. As we know, it's a big old pitch, that, when kids are running around. You know, isn't it? You say that's good, I took last time. Yeah, I've got some play level and the level of the mission have been very good, that's all. Jamie Carragore's playing. Against you. I didn't say that, just to make it clear. Well, I mean, you know, to give it some context. Yeah, well, you know, like you say, a good, a nice fitting end, that is, to be the end of it. Thank you to everyone who watched live, yeah. And got involved with all your comments. And just generally, thank you to everyone who's watched. Anyone who left a comment in it. And thank you to everyone who supports us on Patreon. Yeah. 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