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This is the Daily Tech news for Monday November 2nd 2015 I'm Tom Merritt joining me today is Veronica Belmont DTS contributor and host of dear Veronica on and gadget But so much more you're more than just those things I'm more than just the Component pieces of my mind and body. That's right. You you are Illuminous being not that crude matter. Yeah that happy Monday. Happy Monday We're going to talk about the future of our species in relation to postmates Sort of mean essentially we're going to talk about services and drone deliveries and robots and and and whether this is good for us or not But all of that is coming after the headlines People seem pretty excited here in the good old United States of America that T-Mobile USA now offers a third Device to improve cell reception in your house Oh boy, I don't I don't know why people are said people are Legitimately into interested in this though. It's top of the list and all all the blogs Subscribers on a simple choice plan get a free 4g LTE cell spot box that creates an LTE network that covers about 3,000 square feet using your home net connection. So you're kind of like putting up your own cell tower in your house That's interesting You do need to pay a $25 deposit, but otherwise it's free T-Mobile already offers two other devices a Wi-Fi Cell spot router and a 4g LTE cell spot signal booster, but one Is only for Wi-Fi and the others just a booster so this kind of combines them together T-Mobile told 9 to 5 Google the new unit operates on 10 by 10 LTE in band 4 and UMTS in band 2 Spectrum that that's the kind of thing that makes a difference to you. That's great. It's like having a home cow Oh, I'm cow. Yeah, you know like a cow like the big trucks. They bring to big events to boost See, I'm from southern Illinois. So immediately. I assumed you meant a dairy cow like an actual dairy cow Yeah for milk. That doesn't that does not help I would imagine you're milking the LTE signal It's your phone But no no now I get what you what you mean like one of those trucks except it's in your house I mean this is a better version than what they've offered in the past So I get that it uses your home internet connection. It creates a real LTE network. It's all cool It does imply though that you need it Well, you know, that's an issue with a lot of all the carriers at this point different areas different parts of the Country different parts of the city different parts of a neighborhood all have varying degrees of cell phone reception It doesn't really I mean some do it better than others and some cities are better for certain carriers than others But at the end of the day, I don't think this is a bad thing. I mean, it's really 25 bucks to have pretty decent cell Reception in your home doesn't seem like that big of a of a deal really. I mean, I would frankly enjoy that Yeah, and my my friend lives up at Topanga Canyon We were up there and she has Wi-Fi, but she had no cell reception in her house So she could benefit from this I guess for making calls, but as far as LTE data goes, I mean she has Wi-Fi already Yeah, I mean you probably we I think we we talk about it less and less because we're using it less and less perhaps At least people who are very wired in so we're not making as many calls as we are looking to send i messages or Or having chat through various apps or talking on Facebook Messenger or however It is that we communicate more frequently with our friends and family You know at the uber driver that I had the other day was complaining that when he goes up into Beverly Hills The people don't get his text messages that he's arriving and they don't show up. Yeah Maybe he needs a cow. Yeah Google's David Voss announced project wing a commercial drone delivery service which aims to deliver goods to consumers by unmanned aircraft systems by 2017 Google has run trials in Australia where the Australian Postal Service is also experimenting with drone delivery Google's UAS is a hover and winch packages to the ground. So everybody's doing I mean the Amazon made all the splash Amazon a while ago, but yeah, I and Google is testing this worldwide. So if you're like, well the ufa Hey, you'll probably delay that Google doesn't care. They'll do it somewhere else They're they're looking at the entire earth as a place. What is you a s'd? I know you a v But it's unmanned aerial vehicle or unmanned aircraft system. Oh Okay Same thing drones people are like, man, but drones that has a military Implication so what UAV doesn't I mean not that they're calling them UAVs But what I think of UAVs I think our UAV is online from like Call of Duty Google's David Voss announced the project wing will soon be Bombing you with packages That's great. Yeah, let's maybe not do that. It's not what they were trying to say but I mean I can't wait to see how this is gonna work because So many different entities postal systems in Switzerland in Australia and Singapore and Indonesia And now Google and Amazon and all these companies are trying to figure out how to deliver by drone It's going to be our future. I'm excited about it. I want to know the specs though I want to know the limitations like I just ordered a 35 pound of specialty dog food Yeah, that's not coming by a little tubby butt over here. Um, but she That's not me. I'm not pointing to myself You know It's and and that wouldn't be possible because that's almost 40 pounds worth of stuff I mean, I how much can these things carry? Yeah, we're talking a few pounds. This is for my monthly vitamins now that gets delivered by Amazon That's what the drone will be doing What Google will not be doing is ditching Chrome OS Android and Chrome SVP Hiroshi Locktimer wrote on the Chrome blog today quote There's no plan to phase out Chrome OS Period. That's his direct quote. He also reminded readers of Chrome OS's guarantee of auto updates for five years He also wrote that the company has quote been working on ways to bring together the best of both operating systems referring to Android So the Wall Street Journal article saying they're merging them sounds like it's right But that doesn't imply that they're gonna get rid of Chrome OS if they do that So I guess we end up with a merged version Android version and Chrome OS so three Which totally makes sense more OS is better You know what you only get rid of an OS when people stop using it because you know what Google needs more fragmentation Goodbye, BOS Joe me will sell its red me to and me for phones in South Africa Kenya and Nigeria Starting in the middle of November for the first time the company won't sell phones directly But we'll partner with the mobile in Africa group to handle sales marketing and customer support Yeah, I think a lot of people forget that Xiaomi While it has a great innovative direct sales model in China is willing to try whatever will work They only want to sell the phones They don't have some ideological attachment to the way those phones are sold So they've done different things in India and they have this really big target that they wanted to hit for shipping in 2015 that it does not look like they're going to hit However, if they get these up and running by mid-November, maybe they'll sell enough in these three markets To be able to get closer or maybe even hit it. So it's it's a big move And and three of the strongest markets in Africa South Africa, Kenya and Nigeria when it comes to phones So moving up into Xiaomi level phones Both the basic red me to that one's gonna sell well for sure and even the me for I think You're getting those markets moving into those mid-range smartphones as well. Indeed I don't know if I'm supposed to be well it is but I just read the last one So I'm just gonna read it anyway, so we don't mess with the rest of the lineup. Why not I screwed it up It's that that that is entirely on me. I gave you two in a row. I don't know why it's okay TechCrunch reports clear sky data received toy 27 million series B round of funding a clear sky manages storage for Enterprises with an algorithm that automatically decides what data needs to be where based on importance The most important data is stored in the company's data center or cloud service like AWS or Azure a Second level of data is stored within 120 miles at a colo a cold data is stuffed away in Amazon s3 And cold data rather the company also handles de-duplication backup and disaster recovery Clear sky hopes companies won't want to handle the storage provisioning and management Yeah, so I mean we usually don't cover when a company gets around to funding because that in itself isn't really news to a consumer But if you are someone in enterprise who's looking for storage solutions This is a vote of confidence in a system that when clear sky launched a lot of people thought it was a little weird Like why would you have another company do this other algorithms really gonna work? But it sounds like enough people are confident in it and they haven't disclosed their customer list But they say they've got a good number of customers doing this I I kind of want this for home use to be able to say like yeah put stuff over in my You didn't really have that much stuff I want stuff put in my network attached storage that I won't be able to get to you all the time I want to put some stuff on s3. I think you're probably doing a good enough job of managing that yourself I have to have a terabyte hard drive in my laptop Veronica a terabyte hard. Do you yes in your laptop? Okay, yeah, I'm a digital hoarder Star Fury Zeta sent us a fantastic article from Ars Technica about how the residents of Doe Bay on Orca Island off the coast of the state of Washington in the US got fed up With outages and slow speeds from Century Leak and built their own internet connections. Yeah Doe Bay Internet Users Association or DBI UA is their community wireless ISP They put a microwave transceiver on the top of a water tower Which is relayed around the island using Wi-Fi radios on 5.8 gigahertz and 900 megahertz frequencies They used drones to figure out where to place antennas So they had the proper reception often in trees because they don't have a lot of money to put up poles So let's just put them in a tree outside your house beam it into your house Residents pay 150 dollars to become a member of DBI UA and 75 dollars for their 70 megabit per second service Yeah, all right not bad. It's a great article If you're interested at all if this sounds like an interesting topic go to Ars Technica They're of their of the microwave internet though It's it's a broadband company like you know back backhaul broadband company on the mainland who's who will who sold it To them for $11,000 installation and then they have some ongoing service fees So the DBI UA folks just got together they raised the money to pay the $11,000 And then put up the tower and now they just you know They get enough people signed on to do it that they were able to pool the money and make it happen star-touch broadband services Is is who they paid to supply the microwave link? That's fantastic. That's a really a heartwarming story really Yeah, John Brogdon did a great write-up on this goes. Let's go check it out at Ars Technica I will Supey 777 pointed out an article in Engadget about snapchat's response to its recent privacy policy updates Which caused quite the uproar on the internet recently Snapchats says that reworded the terms in the quote way people actually talk in order to be quote upfront and clear Well, they failed on the last bit The terms always included the right to access review and delete content and share certain information with third parties So you just noticed it more since it was so well worded Snapchat points out that even the new terms say snaps and chat sent to friends are deleted from the servers Once they have been viewed or expire The only thing new is words allow them to sell replays. Yeah, so they did they really It's the right thing to do to say, you know, we're gonna we're gonna use normal language to explain these terms and people are like Oh, that's what that said I'm outraged now that I understand it And and snapchat was quick to say no this doesn't because a lot of people were misinterpreting the thing about selling Your pictures to third parties, that's the live stories part of snapchat the stuff that you you put public They say yeah, we're gonna sell ads against that because it's public But if in another part of the terms they still say your private snaps are deleted from the server the way they always have been It was confusing though. I have to say Chinese drone maker DJI has unveiled an unmanned aircraft system of its own with a computer on board called the manifold UAS Yeah, or UAV one of the two Call it whatever you want call it a drone. It's quadcopter really the manifold has a quad core in its quadcopter quad core arm processor NVIDIA Kepler based GPU along with USB Ethernet HDMI mini PC IE you are T SPI and I2C ports Along with the boot to 14.04 LTS installed. It's designed to be a flying project board Essentially they have an SDK on there DJI hopes that folks will make some artificial intelligence apps for the drones You could pack a bunch of sensors on there easily manifold is available today for 499 bucks ships November 15th or For an extra 3299 is that right you compare it with DJI's Matricy test drone So you can get a whole another drone on top of your drone. Would you like more drone with your drone? Kind of cost you. Yo dawg. I heard you'd like drones I love this idea of the manifold like being able to to have a computer that's just on there So that you can add sensors to it I imagine somebody like you know Darren kitchen is gonna go crazy with this. Yeah, and meanwhile Meanwhile more police in the UK are trying out drones to fight crime and Gadger reports police in Devon and Cornwall are using DJI Inspire one drones to help with crime scene photography and missing person searches Police in Dorset hope to start a similar trial on November 26th. Yeah, and people in Cumbria have been doing this a lot of agencies here In the US have been doing it a lot of a lot of times for firefighting So we're not saying they're the first but just you know noting. There's other people out there doing this kind of stuff TechCrunch reports a new documentary called code girl an extension of Google's made with code project will be available on YouTube for free Until November 5th the film directed by a Leslie chill cut in convenient truth director Follows 5,000 girls in 60 countries who built apps to tackle problems in their communities as part of a coding competition Technovation will also play in theaters in the next few weeks Q all the people saying this whole thing was sexist. Oh because it says girl because it's for girls only They treated the deal about using the word girl on the episode of Supergirl I watched the oh, how is it? I heard it's really great. I liked it. I lean liked it. Yeah, I'm so objectively one can't prove. It's great But we enjoyed it a lot Yeah, no, I'm interested to watch this documentary and see see what it's like me too and that my friends is Some of the things that we thought were important some of the things that you thought were important How do you tell us what you think is important? Let us know on our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Submit your stories there, or if you're like, I don't got time to submit merit Just vote get in there and knock a couple things up say yeah Let's do that one that one that one that doesn't make them pregnant just means In the UK that just dinner first knock on the door Yeah, that my friends is a look at the headlines So here's the deal a startup called handy got an estimated 500 million dollars in funding for setting up services I know I said we know you're gonna cover rounds of funding and we've covered two today But it's interesting because they largely do cleaning services. That's 80% of what they do right now They're the uber of cleaning service. What is it? What is the other 20%? I thought that's all they did I don't know they said 80% of our stuff is cleaning services. So I guess maybe they have some handymen But it's one of these uber of services, right? We get a bunch of contractors or Independent agents who do this service in this case cleaning we hook them up with people who want cleaning on demand So you don't have to walk through the phone book or look on yelp or whatever you just get this nice Clean service and that is a huge market a market for on-demand is is growing leaps and bounds witness postmates uber Amazon prime now google google express everybody wants everything delivered fast and easy There was an article in the telegraph today speaking of delivery about a company called starship That doesn't have any starships, but it is piloting robot delivery For the cost of one pound. Yes a robot will bring you your groceries Yeah, this is like the next level instacart or they're gonna shopping express They're gonna pilot this in greenwich amazon fresh. It can bring you more than just groceries I mean it can can bring 20 pounds of anything Insecure storage. It's locked up. You unlock it with an app once it shows up at your house Skype co-founders ahti Einla and janice friece. I always say their names wrong and I apologize Are are behind this So we're looking at these stories Veronica said are we preparing ourselves for a life of autonomous robots doing everything for us by accepting Service industry oriented startups like handy like uber like postmates. That's really that's really the answer to the question That's the that's the second part of the question the first part of the question Which I've heard a lot of people talking about in the in the tech space in this, you know Echo chamber of technology and talking heads that that centers around san francisco Is this causing the baby application? Of people is it basically a bunch of tech dudes creating products that make them feel like their mother is taking care of them again They don't have to do their laundry. They don't have to do their own shopping They don't have to go out to the store to buy stuff for themselves Everything they could possibly need and want oh come make my bed come tuck me in at night Oh, I don't I don't even have to go downstairs to unlock the front door because now Rinse will come to my house and and use the august lock to Return my clean clothes into my closet. I don't even have to answer the door anymore And so there's that perspective. Are we What what is what is going to happen to us at this point where we can almost feel like we no longer have to take care of ourselves? And is this only for the rich is this only for the rich and powerful The people who live in cities like san francisco in new york You know la maybe portland maybe seattle in places where these technologies are kind of growing and budding But you know, it's not necessarily available to all the other 99 of the people in the world Or are we somehow mentally preparing ourselves for a time when autonomous robots are doing all the jobs That these service workers are doing now So we're already seeing that with this with this skype invention with the new with the news from google about drone delivery amazon It's it's saying well. We don't even need people anymore I mean at the end of the day your groceries are going to be delivered to you via drone Oh, we don't even need drivers for uber anymore because we're actually working on an autonomous car project It's it's are are we setting ourselves up for that level of comfort? Okay, so the first question about babyfication The babyfication of mankind that strikes me as a perennial complaint slash fear throughout human history You know these days that the children can just get in a car They don't have to hook up a horse anymore. They don't have to work at it Oh, and then there were horses and carriages, you know, I used to just walk places But now people they have to be ridden. They have to be pulled by horses Uh, only the rich can afford only the rich can afford to be pulled by carriages. It's unfair The second part about being able to afford these services. I think is Is a more pertinent question to examine I also think it may be a little bit of an over inflamed fear, but at least there's something there like Yeah, there are people who can't afford these services And services typically start at a higher at a higher level and then come down over time Right to become widely available. So I wouldn't look at these kinds of services and say they've cured all human ills Until they get to a point where everyone can afford them and that may take a lot longer than people think But I don't think the stuff babyfies us. I mean all technical advances take away us having to do something the hard way And actually make it so that we can do something else and the fear is always like and so we'll just like an idiocracy all Tool around in our little scooters and never do anything But history proves otherwise when we are freed from certain amounts of toil We generally find productive things to do not every single one of us does and I think that's the cause of the fear Are we setting ourselves up for the next renaissance? Possibly right? I mean the the ability to to have leisure time caused the reticence the industrial revolution caused All kinds of technical advances that we're still spiraling out of and that's why I think that second question you asked about cost Is is a very valuable one because while those things in the large scale had largely positive effects They also had extremely negative effects along the way And if we can get better at mitigating negative effects so that we don't have people dying of Whatever the technological equivalent of black lung is going to be or exploited childhood Workers, then I think that's important to avoid, but I don't think it's going to be driving thumbs I don't think that there is anything that builds character in me of having to go to the post office to pick up a package Okay, that's reasonable. I agree with you there. What happens to jobs, then What what's going to happen when okay? So now we've instead of going to the laundromat Which is we remove our wooden shoes sabo and throw them into the factories. Hence the name saboteur Okay All right, but I mean I mean I know there's always going to be jobs that people don't want to do But what have I mean? This is really the age-old question of science fiction is what happens when the robots take all the jobs Now again, this is I would approach this the same way and say in the large picture Uh, we find new jobs No one thought that when we got rid of you know computers as people That we would find new jobs for all of those mostly women who did that but we did we created whole new service industries It allows us to create whole new economies and whole new industries However, people to repair the robots. Yeah, exactly. We need somebody fix their robots. Okay. They won't perfect. Oh wait They can probably fix themselves. They can definitely probably fix themselves Uh, but no we we come up with new things that we would never have thought to be able to do because we didn't have time Like who has time for that? Well in the new world, you will because you won't have to be spending all your time Doing these other things but in the short term How do we again make sure that the people who lose those current jobs don't get thrown into poverty and starvation? Because they can't make the transition to whatever the new world is Yeah, it's it's strange especially in cities like san francisco where people the people who do the service jobs are Becoming increasingly priced out of the city itself They can no longer afford to pay the rent for the city in which they're trying to do the jobs And so then I mean in some horrible way It almost makes sense for robots to do those jobs Because they can't get people to come do them in the places where the people can no longer afford to live I don't know if that sounds like a that sounds like a bad thing to me Yeah, I think that's an example of the system being out of whack while it's in transition I don't think that's a sustainable system Unless eventually that spreads everywhere and all those people who couldn't afford to live in san francisco start being able to afford the benefits of that service slash robot Economy down the way and I think that's possible But I don't think it's guaranteed And I think again, it's something that you have to You have to be we have to we we shouldn't fear technology, but we should use technology responsibly I guess Yeah, we don't have time to like lay out all the specifics because that that's where this really gets greedy is like, okay Well, what does that mean in practice? Do you pass laws? Do you have regulations? How does that stifle innovation, etc? Where the whole stifling innovation question is is coming up to a vote basically tomorrow in terms of the different propositions that san francisco Is facing versus air bnb, for example, and and facing the housing crisis that the tech boom has essentially exacerbated So that's yeah, I mean the san francisco is a very localized kind of Thing under a mice microscope right now, but doesn't mean it won't change Or spread out to to other areas experiencing this kind of of boom in the future and robots It may free basics by facebook which used to be internet.org and internet.org runs it But they've they've given it its own name Which is the idea that hey, I'll get some access to free data on my phone that I don't have to pay for To give me a leg up on things like wikipedia and facebook, obviously I think that's a great example of how you have to Tailor your technological solutions to the market. It's meant for in african countries where free basics has rolled out It has done very well because the idea of zero rating a service is totally normal It's something people like yeah, you know what I get services on my phone. I don't get to pay for the entire internet I don't have enough money for that. So getting some stuff free. I'm all in that's great Give me that love it right and it's working in india That didn't work and and I can't claim to know india well enough to tell you exactly why But it's because the culture in india was like, uh, no You're giving me some things for free which is picking winners or losers And I want these other things and you're not giving me those and that's not fair and that violates net neutrality It's knowing your market for sure. Yeah, and so that's why it's hard to say like what you should do is x Because what works in san francisco Is not necessarily going to work in london Certainly not likely to work in bejing Uh, so you need to come up with a different approach depending on so many factors socio-economic Bringing it back down to our our initial conversation So do you think I mean this this the service industry these these sites and services like uber Postmates handy rints all the different ones that are kind of operating right now And and may aiming to make our lives easier. So you do not think that this is that this trend is is looking like a baby bubble A man baby bubble. I think it might allow for more babies Okay No, um, I I don't I'm a technical optimist, obviously So you feel free to disagree with me, uh, but I I tend to believe that when you get the ability not to have to do something Uh, it allows you to be more efficient and do more things more productively The fact that I don't have to actually sit down at a reel to reel tape like I used to To record something and pull out a razor blade to edit it. I could just do it in audacity. I'm all for that Built character tom built character. You know, I did it. I don't know if you did it built built character I totally did it And and there's something to be said for learning old ways to learn like the basics and understanding But that doesn't mean you should make people do it or outlaw the new way Uh, I I think that yes, there are things like social media that are a net positive That we have to go through a period of learning how to deal with distractions and learning that oh, wow Too much of a good thing too many fatty foods too much twitter, uh, they you know We need to learn how to use these things responsibly But I don't think that makes them bad in and of themselves and just so everyone knows I'm playing devil's advocate I'm just initiating a conversation I I do not necessarily agree or disagree with the points that I'm making I agree that they could potentially be true, but it doesn't you know I'm just we're having a conversation here about the potential of the future and what's going on I mean, I would prefer to live in the 1940s without any technology But I mean I use these services. I mean, I am going to do an insta car order after we get off this call Because I need groceries Right and you know what I actually like going to the grocery store. It's a break for me. It's fun It fulfills that shopping need So I don't over shop in other ways because I get it out at the grocery store Uh, and I feel like I can see the food. It's fresher. I want to pick it, etc That's the opposite for me because if I go I buy I love to pick up things I don't need so I end up just buying like twice as many groceries If I go on insta car, I just reorder all this stuff I get every week and I'm good to go I don't start buying snacks that I do not need because you know The one thing I do Again pointing at the dog This time. Yeah, uh, the one thing I do is that I always do the self-serve checkout Like I I don't I prefer not to have to stand in a line and chat with a person That doesn't mean they're not nice people. They are actually one of them rhymes all the time. Oh, that's nice. It's pretty cool. Yeah Anyway, all right. Well that uh, that is that we have we've solved it We're not going to become babies and robots. We'll do our bidding Or not let us know feedback at daily tech news show dot com our pick of the day comes from the bud Adams Who's cooling down in phoenix and has been listening for a long time? It never had something he would call worthy of a pick until now his friend recently published an os 10 app called grabby g r a b b i e It's an os 10 menu bar app that lets you search copy and paste gifts from the jiffy catalog It's really awesome because you can either copy the image itself for use an i message Or the link to the image for use in something like facebook I says i've been using it in beta and super excited to share it with the world He's got the itunes link. We'll put in the show notes for you But yeah, go to giffy do a search get your jiff I use um gift for mac Is my would be my pick in that area does a very similar thing actually almost pretty much exactly the same thing I use google I use slack and just hope for the best and then yeah Throw your dice and take your chances Giffy works better As a search engine that it does as a like just pick it for me. Uh, I have to say yeah Uh, but thank you the bud adams send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com You can find my picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks Aside from the fact that star trek is getting a new television series Another piece of big news today was that windows 10 has a new dead simple app creator that allows you without knowing any Coding to create an app and publish it to the windows 10 app store rich from lovely cleveland did just that while he's short Of publishing it I said the next one had an article highlighting the changes to the app studio let you make an app in 10 minutes So I made a dTNS app I did not publish it on the store because I have no right to do so and also it's a Web wrap of the website. I wrote him back. I was like look The show is creative common. So you absolutely have the right to redistribute it in an app go for it I understand how if I made an app that I thought was a pos That I might not publish it and I get that uh, and so he wrote me back He's like I want to mess around with it. Maybe I will publish it after all so we'll let you know if he does Uh, but it's pretty cool that anybody can just kind of throw together something if they need it That's yeah, I mean that sounds a lot like how we used to be able to make widgets out of websites by using that That clipping tool. I I mean maybe that's still available. I haven't done it in like five or six years But yeah, you could you could make a make a desktop widget just by Cutting out a piece of a website call about the widgets. We had a buzz out loud widget. You remember that? Yeah Oh my gosh Ben from chili madison aka in irc madison man. I was listening to the discussion about a combination of os Chromo s and android and made him think why wouldn't they do it like windows 10? Uh, a quite viable solution for me would be something like chrome os with individual windows for android apps Which can be resized and switched between seems like it would work quite well and maybe that's what they'll come out with Says as much as I thought I'd hate windows 10 coming from windows 7 I'm finding that the few good apps that are available in the windows store I actually prefer a really good windows app to a website. Maybe the same could be true with chrome os Interesting. Yeah, and because you can now use those tiled apps in separate windows on the desktop It makes them viable for people who would have never used them before so good. Cool. I thought there been All right. Well, thank you veronica belmont as always for joining us I will play Where can we find more of you? I am trying to majorly pimp out my twitch channel because i'm going to be doing more game streams over there Uh, sometimes with scott johnson sometimes with ralph sometimes by myself, uh, twitch.tv slash veronica belmont is the link to go to Watch out twitch. You don't know what's coming A lot of yelling A lot of drunk a lot of yelling. Oh, this is going to be good. I'm looking forward to this. It's what is it again? 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We get really good response to those You make some things I'm starting to bubble up some things Keep those thoughts Yeah, what should we call this show bot dot tv go vote if you're watching live Uh t mobile is l te to the party Look get it late late for the party clear sky makes it rain because they got funding Babality technology wins I like man baby bubble But I biased that is right on target. Yeah, um got milk Hoist your own bowl Wow, when you take it out of context like that shane, it really does have a different feel Battlestar gross aractica Veronica's not tubby, but no, that's bodega. It's bodega bodega tubby, but I had to go take jango to the vet last week. Uh, and they gave her some Some doggie pills for her arthritis and man, it is working fast. Yeah, she feels already springing around Better than she had been so Yeah, bodega went to the vet last week and they said how did she gain seven pounds in the last two months? And I said, I don't know really. I honestly I have no idea like she eats her dog food. That's it She has like sometimes she has a piece of celery or a carrot I don't know what she's getting into. She's like eating the ice cream when we go to bed or something I don't know what's going on. So she's getting less exercise anyway. Really? Yeah, so Those are your two lovers, you know Her health is fine. She doesn't have any like sicknesses or anything. So Django put on some man baby bubble So lady bubble Yeah, some lady dog bubble lady baby bubble. They said like that'll help her arthritis if she lose some weight. I'm like, okay Got it. Yeah, so I had to buy some low calorie. That's the dog food I ordered is low Yeah, we ordered Django's dog food right now because she has so many different Issues with food. I won't even go into it. But yeah Poor lady. Yeah She's a lady She heard Tom Jones got fired from the voice UK No, really? I I honestly I didn't even know he was on the voice UK. Oh, yeah, uh with will I am Oh, really? Yeah I think either those people are from the UK But okay, Tom Jones is from the UK. Is he? Yeah, he's from Wales. Oh, I didn't know that he's a Welsh Velvet Welshman or something. There's some Welsh nickname he has Yeah, so he says that they were telling him to pick certain people and say things and he wouldn't do it, but they didn't know so So Nikki Big controversy over there. Yeah, I bet Nye upon also Australia got rid of nights. They're not going to night people Oh, really? Yeah They didn't for a long time and then Tony Abbott came in and reinstated it And the first thing he did was give a knighthood to Prince Philip Queen Elizabeth's husband I'm like, well, that's just gonna fire up your republicans So that's done. That's out Uh, Canada's reliving the late 80s early 90s Because Montreal's in first place and they have a prime minister named Trudeau Oh, yes A very handsome prime minister. I might add is he is he I hear here. Yeah, you haven't seen him I don't see handsomeness. I'm told people are are good looking and I believe them You can't you can't like see Let's just do it a little cold bearer thing I got tricked on twitter today. I got scared on twitter today. What why this woman tweeted at me like Hi, Veronica looking forward to seeing you at our disruptive tech chat this week on Thursday 11 5 at 2 p.m Eastern time Oh, she presuming the sale and I was like, I don't have that on my calendar What is what am I supposed to be at a thing? Am I doing a talk? Am I doing a what and then I wrote back to her just for what and she's like, I hope you'll join us Don't do that. I definitely will not now I get it Yeah, I have nothing on my calendar on Thursday yet. I was going to yoga. So take that You should write back. I'm looking forward to seeing you at my yoga class. Yeah, you should join me. You're obviously coming, right? It'll be disruptive My disruptive yoga. Use the hashtag just disrupt yoga I think disruptive yoga would be a great new trend Yeah, it's real peaceful for a while and then boom Yeah Oh, they said I should use a night pet camp to find out what Bobo's getting into but She sleeps in the room with us the doors closed. So she's not going anywhere. I think it's closed Yes, she may have discovered Run the downstairs her secret thumbs Welcome to daily pet news show Yeah That should be a that should be a patreon level. I'll start doing daily pet news show What's up with bodega? Here's what's up with jango. Sawyer's never doing anything interesting Seriously, though, that could be an offshoot daily pet news show and uh separate show Dp What? Dp too far off brand. No PNS Pet news show Just different different letters. That's all we just need we just need to work with it daily animal news show Daily dog news show but then you don't want to talk about diva do you? No Ddns. I like daily dog news show I'm down. I'm down for daily dog news show I can talk about uh, how i'm giving jango eggs Oh, there you go eggs good protein. Yeah good cholesterol One of the problems jango has is a high enzyme count in her liver And one of the effects of eggs is to lower enzymes which can be bad if you have a normal enzyme count So you don't want to give too many eggs to your dog But with jango it's like oh, it's actually Could counterbalance Still don't do it too many when you see dpns written out the way shane just wrote it It does not great look great. No does not look great No, it's like dp-ness It's what it's a lick of like Oh That's what I was worried about Well, I'm actually kind of proud of myself that that didn't even cross my mind You grossos pointed it out With your sick minds and your acronyms Listen, listen It's just the way it's natural. It's perfectly natural the way human mind works I'm looking forward to blizzcon this weekend. Good for you Enjoy. You don't want to come Well, I'm not gonna come. I know Don't be mad. I'm not mad Are you an overwatch beta? No, that makes me mad. I'm mad Get me in the overwatch beta. I mean, here's the thing I feel like a poser because I don't play enough to warrant it I get it if you're looking at my play stats and you're blizzard, you're like, well, don't give that guy a key here Are they ever plays anything? But that's not fair. I do I do I play really like to I play the heroes I'd be playing a lot of overwatch right now if I had a beta key. I bet you would I would No, you never play video games I do too. You're like a you're like a white whale I see you on steams and I'm like, oh my god I don't play on steam very often. Look at that whale Bubble butt Look at that bubble butt I pre-ordered my copy of uh Fallout 4 Yeah, I'm thinking about playing fallout 4 even though it's not really my style of game. I really it looks fun What you do you not like games that are fun? Is that your style of game and you don't like fun games? My style of game is usually boring, uh, but the fallout 4 looks fun. So I stick it of ordering it You know, uh, jenny got the pip boy version Oh, really? Yeah jealous. I know it's too rich for my blood Trying to be frugal Even that was like oh $60 You know with the with the twitch creator channel You could do you could do um like cooking you could do like let's play. Let's play. Let's play cooking Let's play dog tricks Let's play. Yeah pets don't really fit in the creator channel Oh, okay Because I started thinking like we could do the uh, we could do the dog show there But that doesn't really fit because you're not making anything You could make pet things I guess Bonnie Bonnie should do it on for her star wars craft. Yeah It'd be perfect Yeah, whoa what I uh clicked out of the wrong screen and I almost lost the archive.org Don't do that. Nope that would have been bad All right, we're publishing sweet See 10 vex says he sees me on battle.net all to time Whatever it's a lie. It's not I haven't been on as much lately. I didn't play warcraft the other day. Oh, you don't play that anymore. No, I don't No, that's either uh me feeling superior or me feeling like I play an old game that no one else plays Hey, Ian, I can cook. I just want you to know that. Oh, yeah, I can cook. I can cook Sitting on Veronica's cooking channel. She orders stuff on grub hub. I know you could cook but that's actually pretty funny. That is pretty funny Like I want to see someone do a channel where they like attempt to cook something and end ordering on grub hub every day We use uh door dash a lot Door dash. I don't know that one. I've heard of that one. I haven't used it. It's I mean like all of them It's whatever they have that delivers near you. That's good and door dash has a lot of good stuff near us. Okay Postmates doesn't Yeah, postmates is expensive and it is way expensive postmates is like if I am I this hasn't happened in a long time but I was once like turbo hungover and I was like I Require a very specific burrito right now And nothing else will do and yet I am too unwell to venture out into the world Yes, so I paid that like 10 $15 delivery fee. I was just like I I will maybe literally die You lay on your fainting couch in order to postmates. Yeah, and I helped did help Hey, are you reading time and again yet? Yes. I'm reading time again and I was just started seven years Oh, 70 is really good too. Yeah, I like it a lot time again. It's really good. Yeah, it's good I really like it. Did you do the audiobook I told you to do the most recent one? Yes Okay, yeah, I think that's the right choice because it still sounds kind of like old timey because see the narrator Well, yeah sounds like an older guy, but like it's it's good. It's good No, it's really good and I I started the thread on Goodreads because I don't Think it's science like I don't want well. I don't know. Yeah. I'm not I'm not super far So don't don't say you'll you've already got hints of what I'm talking about Um, okay, but it's a good time travel book Yeah, no, I think it's it's fun to do stuff. It's a little bit different. Yeah Good pick good pick audience. All right. We're out of here Thanks everybody for watching back tomorrow with Justin and Patrick Beja Bye