 Well, hello and welcome to another edition of Android faithful your weekly source for the latest news Hardware and apps for as we said the Android faithful. I'm Ron Richards and with me as always. Oh, it's me Jason. Howl also When do it I was also here? That's me, and I'm back this week y'all Michelle Raman We got a stack deck the full team is is here Michelle you survive not only CES, but also Samsung Galaxy unpacked How are you? I'm glad to finally be in a place where it's not filled with smoke all over Oh, one thing I did not like about Vegas. Oh, I was gonna say Samsung Galaxy unpacked is known for the cigar smoking Of course the first time I went to CES and I went to I went to Vega The first I was CES was the first time I went to Vegas and I stayed at New York New York Hotel Which I was just laughing at the entire time because I'm from New York and that's nothing like that And I remember I was there for like a day and a half and I said to David Prager who I worked with that revision three Like a good close personal friend I turned to him like the thing about Vegas that gets me is the smell of desperation Like everywhere you go everything just feels yeah, it's like it's like lingering in the air Whether you whether you can smell it or not you can totally feel it Like a coat I sat down at the bar to get a drink and a lovely woman came up and talked to me and talked to me for a good while And then she wanted money Hear that happens in Vegas too But anyway, Michelle you've survived and you're here to tell the tale of Samsung Galaxy unpacker super excited for that But before we get started we just want to remind everybody and I want to thank everybody For something to support the show In fact, we are all now independent podcasters Jason You are you're mr. Independent podcaster now But Android faithful is completely owned by the four of us and we're doing it on our own And we want to thank everybody for your support and if you're not supporting the show yet You go to Android faithful comm and there you can find a link to our patreon a patreon comm slash Android faithful and there You can sign up at we've got several different levels of that folks can sign up for As low as five dollars a month you can sign up and you get a free sticker mailed out to you and you get access to our Patreon exclusive discord if you sign up for ten bucks a month you get that sticker as well as a ad-free Podcast feed so you can listen to the show without any ads But if you sign up for 20 bucks a month, I don't know if you know, but you get the ad-free Podcast feed you get the discord access get the sticker, but you also get a t-shirt I don't know if people realize get a t-shirt realize I don't think in 28 episodes We've shown the t-shirt because I know that the four of us don't have a t-shirt But I wanted to show everybody. This is the cool Android faithful t-shirt that my friends here Steve and Tina are Hanging out just hanging out in their Android faithful t-shirts But yeah, this is this show It's the awesome Android faithful logo on a t-shirt that you get mailed to you from our friends at patreon So just wanted everyone to know that you get a t-shirt if you sign up for that $20 level And so we want to thank everybody for their support And there's a reminder that if you are an eccentric benefactor and you want to sign up for the $500 a month You could come on the show with us to be a guest in the show. So check that out. So yeah, we're still waiting on that one Yeah, we are but it will happen I am Gary I am confident in the Android faithful that someone will want to hang out with us on a Tuesday night on the show live So I just have to say the logo for this show is totally Merchable like it's a it's a solidly mergeable logo and that is on the 2024 to-do list Jason sir We're getting some exciting merge coming out soon Before we get into things can I just make one real quick thing about my pixel eight my eight pro So I have The case so when Google sent me this for review. They also sent me this case So I think a lot of you know many other reviewers probably have a very similar case And I can't show it with the screen with this camera because it doesn't do close-up very well If at all and my bright my lights are really bright But I just got to say I've only had this for a couple of months and the edges are starting to like pop open Oh, no, man. Keep that in mind. That is the The eight pro phone case by Google and you might not have good luck with it. You know long-term Interesting. I'm not using a case on my pixel eight pro and I gotta tell you the screen is nicked like I've I have got all the little micro scratches way more faster than I did the pixel seven pro so And when you recently had a scare with your pixel fold Yes, perhaps Ron you would like to that's in a screen protector. Hey everyone This is I I recently thought that at my family birthday party where there are many many toddlers banging Spoons and butter knives onto many many phones that my phone was also I mean, I think it might have been a victim of it So I thought my fault my fold was cracked and I was getting ready to go down to the same day repair I went to see my assistant today. She was like girl. She got a screen protector and then I looked at my phone I was like, I did have a screen protector and it is glass. This is glass and it's still cracked But it is cracked not my good thing that cracked and not the fold. Yeah, I mean, I did have referred care, but You know, hey, you know what like I think just like what 12 bucks or something. So They really are. Yeah, it's worth it. Tumper glass and toddler proof ish Ish nothing is nothing a hundred percent toddler proof that's a parent of two toddlers Right, although they're five now, maybe they're not toddlers anymore So we've got so much Samsung starts to talk about but before and Michelle I know you're you're itching to get to it Jason I know you're gonna talk about at the end of the show and we're gonna put you on the spot But for anybody who listens to this show and then doesn't listen all the way till the end you have a new podcast, right? Oh, wow, I didn't expect this so early. Yes, I do so Tom do it real quickly and then we'll talk more about at the end of Okay, yeah, I announced last week a new podcast with Jeff Jarvis me and Jeff Jarvis called AI inside We were testing it at twit while I was at twit inside the club twit walls and now we're taking it public And you know, of course, I got twits blessing to do that so we've got our episode one tomorrow go to AI inside dot show and Watch with us and hopefully the ship holds together It won't be it won't be a hallucination All right, well, yeah, of course, that's all right, so that said let's get into the Samsung action Michelle Tell us what happened. I'm packed because I didn't watch anything. I didn't I don't I'm I'm coming into this completely blind They announced a phone Are you saying you want me to unpack galaxy unpack? Yes, I'm packing galaxy unpacked. There you go The low hanging fruit of a joke you got to do it every time Yeah, so of course, everyone knows the Samsung unveiled the Galaxy S24 series at unpack He probably heard the headlines or you were expecting it to be announced But of course every year Samsung just has so much Information to un to offload during their unpacked event It's kind of hard to wrap your Bryant around everything that they show off So while I was there I did I did like a live thread that covered everything they were announcing all the key points from the keynote and Surprisingly one of the first things they started off with was the fact that all three devices in the S24 series will be getting Seven years of not only security, but also OS updates, which is huge They're following Google like Google did this and that was a big deal when they did it and now Samsung is do it That's an even bigger deal considering how much more phones they sell relatively Now do you think do you think they did it because Google did it? Surely they had to have already have had like committed to this before right you don't make this kind of decision Like spontaneously Another company doing it right because this is this you got to invest so much money Yeah, getting all your partners like to make sure you can do the updates appropriately all the third-party vendors You have to work with it and so on and Investing the money beforehand, you know, there's no way this wasn't planned ahead of time They I mean they probably communicated right just so they didn't step on each other's toes Like yeah, like I get to go first like we'll both do it, but I get to go for like I get dibsies. Well, and especially You know this this event what really illustrated the kind of the tighter Relationship that Samsung and Google do have right now and it just while I was watching the event You know Hiroshi gets up on stage and talks about some of the things that I'm sure we'll talk about in coming minutes But you know it just it reminded me of how many years ago when Samsung and Google were not In that relationship Samsung was stumbling over itself to never say the word Android It really did not want to admit that anything they're what you know on stage wasn't a product of only them and Now we're seeing this tighter kind of relationship in a number of ways We talked was it last week or the week before about a quick share nearby share kind of that combo and In so many other ways So I would be really surprised if they weren't in communication with each other around this in some way shape or form No, no Google was all over this announcement like We'll be talking about one of the features that everyone associates with Google because it's directly coming from Google Which is circle to search but almost all of the AI Powered features that Samsung talked about that as part of the Galaxy AI suite is in some way related to Google So the Galaxy S24 series just like the pixel 8 pro features Google's Gemini nano large language model for some on some of its on-device features But also a lot of the cloud-based AI features that they're unveiling with the Galaxy S24 series They're running on Google clouds Gemini pro back end so like Google's AI is everywhere on this device and Samsung is taking full advantage of it and most of the keynote they talked about so many different AI features in the The native dialer app. They have a live translate feature that lets you like translate You speak in one language and then it translates to another language and speaks it out the other end and then vice versa You have all these new features in the Samsung keyboard app like tone grammar suggestions You have a chat translation feature that translates whenever you type texting someone in like WhatsApp For example, it translates in line the language that is being texted There's a new interpreter app Which is just like the interpreter feature in like the Google translate app You have new auto formatting and summarization features in the Samsung notes app Transcription summarizations in the voice recorder app And a whole bunch of new features in the gallery app that allow you to like move objects Let you to delete objects allow you to move objects around like a lot of these things are things that you If you have a pixel phone you already have them in the Google Photos app You have them in the keep app you have them in the G board app But now Samsung's native versions their first-party versions of these apps They're getting all of these features so it kind of feels like Samsung is playing catch up to Google in some sense, but On the other hand, you know, this is still you get the best of all those Google pixel AI features But you also have the Samsung hardware the and you don't have a tensor motor you have the Qualcomm modem you have Samsung software support you have Samsung's, you know after sales support their accessory market There are Windows integration so it's basically it kind of feels like you're getting pixel software features now but without the pixel hardware and I don't know. I kind of dig that on the end on the S24 Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, if you have an S24, of course I mean it I the one thing I thought of is that it it definitely I don't know if it steals the sunshine or steals the thunder from the pixel line a little more or rather Spreads what Google's doing with a are obviously it spreads what Google's doing that they are not AI to more devices But like do they lose a little does it lose a little, you know jet fuel in the pixel jet engine? I guess is my question, right? I think the question then becomes how important is the pixel, right? Why pixel, you know, because again, we're in a position where Google where it feels like Yeah, it feels like some of that special sauce around the hardware is maybe Being spread around to other devices and at the end of the day, what is Google's strength? Google's strength. I think is building these services that others can use it. I love their hardware Don't get me wrong I have a pixel and I have since the beginning, but I don't know that the pixel is an indication of their true hardware as a company I think it's more about the services and the software that's underneath and you know There have been a lot of people like questioning like okay things are getting a lot tighter between Google and Samsung here and you know, Google is spreading the love around It is their possibility that Google plans at some point to take its foot off the gas of their hardware Strategy and focus once again on the software and the AI and everything that's driving all of this stuff because they benefit so much from that That's all that I got honestly from the announcement is that this is them kind of realizing that I mean Realizing is the wrong word because it's still it's always been kind of funny Like what is their aim with pixel right because I think we've all known for several years that Even though they doubled their market share last year they doubled from 2% to 4% and it's not like I don't think I don't know At what point in time you could have reasonably said they probably would expect to ever overtake or come close to Samsung or even You know opera anybody else in terms of market share, but it's weird because like I was thinking last week We covered how assistant is just like, you know shuttering a lot of a lot of You know features and it seems like there's there's a dramatic Pivot going on in Google from stuff I've heard from just these stories that we've covered and maybe that's it maybe they're like Hey, like we need to not just refocus our efforts Onto AI and all these features that we're good at but find a way to repackage them to get them to a broader audience right and like I because all these things, you know, we know that none of this stuff has been a surprise in terms of in Innovativeness or kind of like novelty the novelty is like oh, yeah This tightness with Samsung and Samsung is still like the number one Android. Oh, yeah Maybe like that. They've just decided. Okay. What we need to do is like, yeah Turn like maybe like pivot away from our own hardware as like the showcase for all of these features that are very googly and Letting Samsung, you know be the spearhead on it That's kind of what I got out of it. I don't know I don't work at Google Wouldn't be able to tell you if I all the stuff if I did anyway But that's what it felt like to me Especially without all the other and I think it's some of like for example, some of the layouts that happened were part of I think hardware had a bunch of layouts and core engineering, so It just feels like there there's a big shift and this kind of would make sense Didn't fall hat like now on the side Well, I think Google strategy can more be summed up of they're trying to there no matter like what happens with their own hardware They're still winning either way like as I just mentioned like their Gemini Nano model is being used on device their Gemini pro model is being used for cloud-based features And even though it's not their first party apps that are being benefited from like all they're still getting paid Like somehow right like all the Galaxy AI features Samsung is only promising They'll be free until the end of 2025 They haven't said that no if they're gonna charge for it But someone's getting paid either way and this is running on Google's model So like Google is probably the one getting a big bag of money to run a lot of these AI features in the future Yeah, that was really confusing to me on where Google left off Like where does Google leave off and where does Samsung begin in regards to Galaxy AI because the features seem so familiar And it's part by Gemini. Does anyone know exactly like What it what is the line between Samsung and Google with these features because it's kind of confusing I guess maybe just as someone who knows this Gemini is just the the underlying model that is Features and it seems like Google's broad strategy is basically you have Android and then you have iPhone and with Android You have a choice of hardware. You're not just limited to one phone You have you can have pixel and get the best of Google features You can have Samsung and get the best of Android and Samsung features You can get one plus and half, you know all those features and eventually some of the Google features too You know, it's all about choice of hardware on the Android side And Google is building software that allows OEMs to differentiate their software, but you know still Be interoperable with one another like we're seeing all these cross-device features that make Android devices work better together And they talked about some of the new stuff like that are is coming first on the Galaxy S24 series But also on pixel phones and then they also rolled out the new quick share, you know It's kind of I feel like this is the strategy that Google is going they're positioning Android with all these different hardware bits versus just iPhone and Not just phones But a new wearable era is that where we're at with Samsung right now I thought it was really interesting at the very end of the announcement the ecosystem expands You thought that you thought it was done and they didn't quite do one more thing with a big brew. Haha In fact, it was really kind of like Interesting because they came out and spent like five or seven minutes on like health stuff and like sleep tracking and all these things like you've kind of heard before and everything and then they tacked on to the end of it and Coming soon the Samsung Galaxy ring a wearable ring that you put on your finger They didn't really even talk about like what the two things that they just discussed had in common But you could kind of fill in the gaps and we found We found since through different interviews with Samsung exacts and stuff that it really is meant to be kind of like a health wearable That is essentially a stripped-down version of the things that your phone can do already So or or like I'm wearing the pixel watch, too This could do sleep tracking, but I don't want to wear a watch to bed So I'm never gonna do that. I would consider wearing a ring if if it you're you're already wearing several Yeah, but I mean I even take them. That's true. I am wearing two. I do take them off at night So yeah, maybe that it maybe that is too far for me But I'm way more likely to wear a ring that would track my sleep than I would be aware like a watch And that kind of sounds like what Samsung was alluding to here still pretty light on details, but they say that you know, it's it's gonna eventually potentially have the ability to do activity tracking sleep tracking and And Yeah What I think is super interesting and we were talking about this before we were prepping for the show I've actually had more people in the past week asked me about this ring like in my social friends that circle friends that I have About the phone themselves because this was something different This was something new to add to the marketplace and I feel like aura and the other kind of smart rings That are out there. Yeah, are all start-up II fringe somewhat, you know, like Early adopter but Samsung doing a ring. That's like That's that's that's market valve marketplace validation, right? Like that is a wearable That is legitimate a major company doing a ring kind of like when Apple did the watch it legitimate legitimatize wearables So yeah, I keep an eye on this one. I think it's definitely gonna be interesting Yeah, there I think also at the same time I think also last week a maze fit also announced a ring But I mean yeah or has been around for a while they I think they've they've claimed to have sold over a million units like this was back in 2021 Prince Harry and Kim Kardashian wears them and and so I do think it's like yeah going from that kind of high-end elites kind of Thing to Samsung and I mean, you know, if Samsung's gonna have K-pop stars were in where and we're in fit for a tracker rings But then whenever they come out end of the year next year to see and they'll it makes a lot of sense So so we'll see so we'll see but guess what it's not gonna be just smart rings that do sleep tracking and fitness tracking It sounds like Samsung is racing not just aura But Apple for a bigger share of you know, this kind of burgeoning and further growing kind of health smart device market And Samsung is in fact working on a continuous blood sugar and blood Sorry glucose monitoring and can use blood pressure monitoring And basically non-invasive one because you know right now especially for those of you who probably, you know Live with diabetes, you know that like most of time Lucas monitoring involves very kind of like You know intrusive methods breaking your finger, you know like blood samples And so kind of like one of the you know kind of grails right now is to find like a non-invasive You know device like a ring or some other wearable that can give you that continuous monitoring and to make life easier I mean given, you know, how many people cross over in the world have Diabetes and the kind of monitoring that needs it would be a War a public good, but also probably a gold mine for these companies Apple is also working on it They have been working on a non-invasive glucose monitoring for a long time for almost over a decade now And they're you know, both of you know, both Samsung and Apple have yet to put out products But they're they're looking for it as well as also hypertension monitoring Interestingly enough, I know we don't cover it on this show But Apple did recently has some interesting this happen with their hypertension monitoring and patent stuff and Masimo So I so given that context it's gonna be very interesting to how this kind of like little Glucose score between Apple and Samsung Might shape up, but again, it kind of goes along with the you know health message that they started I mean galaxy impact last February had like what a half an hour dedicated to like the this whole health experience they had some this time They got a theme and they're going with it and it's probably gonna include glucose monitoring and hypertension monitoring in the future I gotta say continues glucose monitoring on like a smartwatch would be it just a game changer Yeah, it would I know someone I know someone like I asked them They have a Samsung phone. They have a Samsung watch. They have a Samsung tablet They have a Samsung PC and I asked them like did you hear the rumors about Apple? You know integrating but glucose monitoring into their Apple watch and like if that happened They were the first ones to do it. Would you buy an Apple watch? They said yes They would sell all their Samsung hardware and they would get an Apple watch and they would get an iPhone It's that important to them. Yeah, 100% and let's hope that Samsung learns from Apple and Pays the license fees or has their own patent for it. So Yeah Yeah, that would be a total total game changer I too know several people with diabetes that we have to do all that and beating do it would just it would that would be There's enough people in there that that would that would totally change the sales charts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Well, so much from Samsung, but that's not it In fact, Michelle you've got some hands-on one of the devices So we're gonna go deep with that but we're gonna take a little breather from Samsung for a moment and we're gonna check in with the News that you the loyal patrons of patreon.com slash Android faithful have chosen for us to discuss In addition to the t-shirt that I showed earlier and the sticker and the discord and although the ad-free podcast all that fun stuff every week any Paying supporting member of patreon.com slash Android faithful can vote and pick a story for us to talk about on the show and this week we had a interesting mix of No articles about messages none So coming in last was the fact that X or Twitter or Twix as we like to call it here Roll started rolling out audio and video calls for Android that got that got 20% of the vote Which I thought was interesting, but a little late to the game Twitter, but there you go That's probably why I came in last Coming in second with 29% of the vote was the fact that Google is teasing a new pixel 8 color for release And in fact, I believe it came out today, right the mint color Or they delayed it. I saw something. They delayed it. They delayed it Yeah, it's not out yet But the winning story that we're gonna talk about right now is the fact that What's app is coming out with their own version of nearby share With all the chatter of Google and Samsung You know trying to firm up a file sharing standard collaboration What's app is working on their own Bluetooth file sharing tool for nearby users So if you're a what's app user and your friend is a what's app user Both users would need to open the share file section of what's app and stay there until the transmission is done and Don't worry. It is end-to-end encrypted So here's a question has the damn broken on the concept of nearby share And this is just now table stakes for any app or anything that's doing it like, you know Because my sister's a what's app user. I'm a what's app user my wife's a what's app user We got iOS and Android amongst the three of us we can share files this way through what's app because we're all using it What do I care if Google or Samsung does it like is what's app the great unifier across different platforms and things like that? Yeah, I think I think a lot of people were saying a lot of people when they first heard this thing It was like, oh, what are they doing? Why are they releasing yet another file sharing standard? But the fact that what's app is installed on what like two billion like over a billion Devices have what's app both Android and iOS actually makes it one of the best file sharing services Just because you don't have airdrop on Android. You don't have nearby share on iOS. So how are you going to share files? You just open what's app? Yep. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, and I mean it also probably speaks to the fact that like worldwide What's app is such a big deal here in the US not so much because as you all know We end up talking about RCS and you know, it's standard messaging and all that kind of stuff here But so many other parts of the world what's app is what they use, you know Everyone and and it's just such a huge deal that having a feature like this Might make more sense outside of the US than it makes inside the US I mean, I'm a I'm a proud loud and proud what's app user It has allowed me to connect with with people across the aisle on iOS for years now I've got several active chats going with it You know and ways to connect with my friends like I mentioned my wife is on an iOS device I'm on Android. It would be a great way for us to share files that way Yeah, I think I think it's great and I don't I'm with you I don't blame what's app at all for doing this I think like what's app to me feels like of all the things meta has done over the years What's app is like the stealth Trojan horse like acquisition that they paid for They got a ton of users. They got international platform acceptance and They whatever they're doing with this team that's doing what's app features or just doing it quietly And you don't get a lot of noise from Facebook or anything like that It just kind of rolls on its own and what's app is this little powerhouse that I think is a super It's honestly it's in my like new phone Set up the phone top five apps to install. What's app is in the top five hands down every time I will say I have literally used what's app to exchange video files, which are not small With my iPhone friends. And yeah, I and also I think it's worth to note that the transfer limit is five gigabytes That's huge. That's awesome I think even like nearby share you're limited to like five gigabytes total a day or one gigabyte per file I'm not a hundred percent sure on that. So they are giving you like a it's it's very flexible I will say though. What's that? Please don't make it so that both people have to keep that screen up Yes, that's yeah, we're in the background. You can make it work in the background. So just do that and then I'll be happy Yeah, they both both people keeping it open during the transfer if you're doing a five gig video file or just You're just like holding the phone out But other than that, I I agree I do think this makes a lot of sense. Yeah, go. What's up here here 2024 the year of nearby share The year of pure file sharing it's That because they're gonna be rebrand again next week All right Well, that was our patron pick. Thank you all the patrons at patreon.com slash android faithful Go sign up there get in on the action. It is awesome. We thank everybody for doing it But now the moment we all been waiting for Michelle, you have brand new hardware in hand Tell us all about the galaxy s24 that you got I do and let me actually switch my camera over to There you go Bear with me if things look a little janky it's first time doing this But I have in hand the galaxy s24 ultra. I got it from Samsung while I unpacked and This is my first time using like one of their smartphones my daily driver for in a long time you know, I had their z-fold five for quite a bit and I kind of got a little tired of how heavy and chunky that was and Personally, I'm not that big of a fan of how sharp the corners are on this phone But I do love the in hand feel it definitely feels very sleek the titanium gray color. You can see here It's it looks really nice and I'm really loving the software features that they unveiled that one of us 6.1 just has so much going on and it's kind of overwhelming to be honest But before I get into that just wanted to bring up like a lot of people have been asking about the corning gorilla glass armor that Coding they added on to in the light reflectance and I can say it really does make a big difference in terms of how much Light is reduced when you like have some a light source shining on the phone If you put it side by side with another phone It really does make a difference like in terms of how much is reflected Does that cut down at all on the kind of perceived brightness of the display when you're looking at it in person? I kind of haven't I haven't noticed that I don't think it does like they do advertise that it gets up to 2600 nits of brightness and I haven't I haven't been able to test that it's been really cloudy and dark lately So I can't go outside and actually have it crank up to that max because you have to have auto brightness on and it has to Detect the sunlight and so on but other than that I The phone has been very fast and snappy at a snapdragon 8 gen 3 the ultra model has that globally battery life I haven't had it long enough to actually tell you if that's you know good or not But now I think what you go up and waiting for is a demo of some of the new AI features and the new features They announced at unpacked. So the first thing I want to show off is circle to search So this is a feature that lets you long press on the home button or the gesture nav handle to invoke Google lens over your screen. So I'm gonna do it right here There you go. So I'm gonna draw a circle over this like let's say you want to search this up and That's a that's the the Pixar like logo thing like that's Pixar HQ And you can basically do this onto anything like on any screen You're at you can just long press on the handle select something scribble on something and then it'll just search On Google lens like you can do this on any Android phone already, right? You can just open Google lens and then tap search my screen But this just takes like a one step out of it Just makes it so quick search for anything on your screen And this is available right now out of the box on the s24 series and it's coming to the pixel 8 series on January 31st So the next feature I want to show off is a feature you already are probably familiar with in Let's see I'm gonna tap this AI feature So if you have the Google Photos app and you already familiar with the magic editor feature the magic eraser Basically the same thing. I'm gonna draw over this guy right here Just have it select it and then I'm gonna touch and hold and I can just Erase myself and then I can generate and fill in the image And this is being run in the cloud So it takes a few seconds because it's using generative AI to fill in the gaps of where the object in this case Me used to be so we're not at the point yet where that is. Yeah happening on device I can't zoom in but if you look pretty closely Like I'm gone. I'm not in the image anymore Is your shadow there? I mean that's it's not a big deal. I'm just curious Kind of you can kind of see it. Yeah, that's all amazing. Yeah, it's curious Yeah, and then there's also a straighten feature. So I think if I do this So if I go back to this feature like if I want to straighten this, right? You see like when you're when you're adjusting the rotation of an image, right? You lose a lot of the Details that are on the outside because your photo is just physically not there So what this does is you when you straighten it it uses generative AI to fill in the gaps around the outside So like it'll magically fill in not magically of course with AI Fill in what it thinks should be on the outside and just add scenery that Actually isn't there to make it look like you have it there and it's it might look a little janky But if you have like especially in nature scenes, it'll it might work pretty well I wonder at what point like it, you know, because this is a very recognizable shot of a very recognizable place I wonder at what point it would be able to reference Other photos of that area and then generate around what it knows to be there, you know, that's really interesting Okay, and this this one is really cool. This is a feature where it uses frame interpolation So I have a photo of someone dancing at like San Francisco Airport. I think was it? I don't remember where but here like you can see I just record it in like native 60 frames per second But if I if I go back a little bit Sorry go back but if I Didn't record this in slow-mo, right? This is just like a 60 frames per second video, but if I press and hold It's like interpolating frames in real time and making it look like as if I had taken a slow-mo video I like how I like this I also like the feedback of when you did that have a little white flash I went over it to show you that I was doing something like that was pretty cool. Yeah, that was yeah Yeah, but does it save it? I think you can I don't I don't know like how to do it But I think you can and just two more quick things I want to show you is in the notes app if you have a bunch of notes And it's just all a mess like these are just some notes I took of my experience with one UI six. There's this new AI feature that lets you Automatically format it. Let's say I want to do headers and bullets So I have to like a whole bunch of bullet points of things I noted about one UI They're not organized at all and it's gonna use a large language model I think this is on device and Look and look look at that. It's just like formatting and I have different options that I love and and Do meeting notes do meeting notes. I want to see oh my gosh. Yes. Let's see Format useful selection was too long Auto format meeting notes. Let's try that. I Just curious what the difference between you know, this is so cool. This AI stuff is so cool, man It's figuring it out All right, so it's similar basically. Yeah. Yeah, and then the other one was the summarize feature and Summarize like a quick. Yeah a couple of summarize my own notes, right? And then briefly you have the same thing with the voice recorder app So I'm just doing a quick live demonstration recording with my voice in the voice recorder app Similar to the pixel recorder app on the pixel phones. Yeah, that was one question I had was whether it was the same or different looks like it's gonna save it here It doesn't do real-time transcriptions like on the pixel phone, but you just quickly tap transcribe and Then it'll just analyze it on device using the Gemini nano model and you have a transcript here and then you have a Summary well, it was too short for to summarize Picture yeah, that there's your right there. Yeah, that's that's it. That's like I've only had this for a few days I'm really loving I'm gonna be having it for the next couple of months really getting a feel for one UI 6.1 and all the features that it has going for it, but Really loving my experience the phone so far That is the ultra. Is that right? That's the one thing. Yes. Yeah, okay, so you got the titanium build Titanium yeah, yeah, it looks nice I'm a huge fan of the ultra series when they when they have their ultra devices. I almost always really like them Yeah, yeah, and if you didn't catch the announcement the S24 starts at 799 S24 plus at 999 and the ultra at 1299 and pre-orders are open now And then it goes on sale on January 31st Ultra from 549 99 with eligible trade-in Samsung's really good with trading values. Yeah, yes, absolutely I've been silent up to this point, but so many holes If you've got that fear of holes thing man, it is like five holes there and that to there, right the one on the Pinhole, right so many holes. Oh I guess there were some questions we had on patreon. I can answer Yes, yeah, so we we posted the patreon last week saying hey, Michelle's got the device What questions do you got so we wanted to kind of in advance wanted to get some questions so Michelle First question came from Joe furnace who says we'd like to know how the circle to search works and how it will work in the pixel 8 series Right so circle to search. There are two parts to it there's a new gesture that's baked into Android that allows you to long press on the gesture handle and then that Invokes a new screen within the Google app. That's the actual circle to search screen. So There's technically nothing really limiting this feature from being made available on other devices Except for the fact that you need some updated Android code to make it possible to long press the gesture handle because that's not part of stock Android right now but that's basically how it's going to work on Samsung phones, that's how it works on the pixel 8 and Eventually, hopefully when sort of the other devices, that's how it'll work as well And then a similar question we had from Peter Keef who was interested on from the dev perspective if they have to do Anything to support circle to search and the answer is no This is just gonna work on any screen because you're basically the Google app has enough privileges to be able to basically Take an image of the screen and then you're whenever whatever you're drawing is going to use optical character recognition Or just some you know machine learning algorithms to identify images that you're circling basically what already Pixel phones have been doing whenever you swipe up to the recent menu and it automatically detects text and images It's basically doing that on any screen and then searching through it with Google lens and Then the feature the question from Circhio T asking about the anti glare screen in person as I just mentioned It is very good. It definitely does make a noticeable difference. It reduces light reflectance And then they also asked does it seem like Google accepted Samsung as a premium Android manufacturer? I think the answer is a quite resounding. Yes, considering how much of a presence. They were I don't know I mean like so Sergio Asked does it seem like Google accepted Samsung is the premium Android manufacturer? I don't know if it's like a matter of needing to accept it or not rather that Google is Partnering and supporting Samsung right like it's you know, like I mean It'd be it'd be one thing if they showed up at the 1 plus 12 event with circle to search and they didn't right? But I don't I don't think this is like Google anointing Samsung is the king of Android devices or Google like yeah Yeah, I would they've been partnering if anything behind the scenes for many years I I've been on calls where you know Google Google is you know helps so I'm some with partner experiences like they're tight They know where the bread is buttered and they have known for a long time And it behooves them as a platform to support their biggest OEM and and so I agree they know that they're a huge partner And they still make they've still been making their own phone. So yeah, I I don't know that answers your question But I don't think it's necessarily that you know, they're they're giving up any territory to Samsung It's just they're being more open and Using that partnership in a more open marketing kind of forward way Haven't having friend of the show Roshi in this on the stage. I was very surprised. Oh Definitely I audibly yelled when I'm like Roshi Jason I was watching your live stream on it with your coverage of it So, yeah It was that was what would Hiroshi say And very briefly there was one more question we had from Tom Trek who asked how many the AI features will make it to the old devices and Samsung did mention at the keynote that actually it was on a footnote during the keynote that a lot of the Galaxy AI features will be coming to the S23 series the Z flip 5 the Z fold 5 and the tab S9 series Sometime in the first half of 2024 they didn't specify a date and they didn't specify exactly which AI features will be coming They just did confirm that at least some of them will be coming to their existing devices cool All right, so Samsung Galaxy S24 ultra overall Review at the end of the day thumbs up thumbs down thumbs up thumbs up two thumbs up one thumbs up To thumbs up two thumbs up. Wow to me. All right, Michelle get my hands on one. Very cool Well, thank you for thank you for your service Right on well, that's Samsung wasn't the only phone that I know that I that launched a device recently, right? No, no and another oh, yeah, and we've been talking about quite a bit For a while now was one plus and so guess what you can get along if you're not a Samsung 24 type of person You can get the one plus 12 it has launched It is global launch days here, basically the device is actually very similar to the one that was released already in China There are some restrictions and proviso the dent or not a dem-dems the opposite of a den-dome The device is very similar to the Chinese version except that there is no 24 gigabyte RAM option Which I guess makes sense because my goodness 24 gigs gigs of rain And there's no white color colorway But you will be getting more or less the one plus 12 the starting price in the US is going to be 799 for the 12 gigabyte version with 256 gigabytes of storage and 899 for the 16 gigabyte version With 512 gigabytes of storage pre-orders are started or are available now and devices should be available on February 6 Something that is novel though is best is best by actually will be selling devices in stores This is like the first time one plus is doing it So you can pre-order from one plus calm best buyer Amazon or you know Eventually just walk on down to your best buy and have the what do they call them over there is a I know eek squad or somebody Help you out There is a trade-in program as well all kinds of kind of deals Actually something to note that if you are super interested pre-orders will also automatically get the 512 gigabyte model Which again is 799 for the lower price of sorry You're gonna if you pre-order you can get the 512 gigabyte 899 version for the other price 799 Yeah, and also the throwing in a free wireless charger So outside of the US the one plus tell will be available around early February no solid date in most countries including India And then not to not to just like leave it at that Along with the one plus We also have the one plus 12 are Unlike other manufacturers one plus prefers an R for the mid-range not an a so an R And we do have some information about the one plus 12 are So this mid-ranger is gonna come in at 499 usd. It's rocking the snapdragon 8 gen 2 and has you know 8 or 16 gigabytes of RAM with 128 or 25 gigabytes of storage for that 6.78 inch AMOLED up 220 Hertz refresh rate with a Lpto 4.0 at HDR 10 plus I had a look up what LP LP to was an LP to stands for low temperature polycrystalline oxide It's basically just a fancy backplane technology for OLED spray displays, which allows for Dynamic refresh rates. I ti L. There you go It's got a large very large battery at 5500 milliamps and 80 watt super woke charger 31 minutes to 100% charge zoom your pre-orders can start today And hey, if you got your one plus 12 your one plus 12 are and you need some things in your ears to go with them The namely earbuds The one plus buds 3 are around or going to be available for $99 starting February 13th They have active noise canceling for up to 40 49 49 decibels And when that active noise canceling is active It is up to 10 hours of battery life Wait, sorry my bad without without active noise canceling you need 10 hours of battery life with you get a six and a half Hours of battery life and then with the case total you'll get about 44 hours of work out of those buds There is fast charge support LD sorry LHTC 5.0 blue blue to support and yeah, there you go. There's your one plus Part of the ecosystem or part of the one plus ecosystem Coming at you in February with the one plus one plus are and the one plus buds 3 So I want to back up to the one plus 12 there was a lot of a lot of stuff that I've been And Jason, I don't know if you can pull back up the one plus 12 page for our video viewers are watching it but I will say as a vocal non Not not indifferent to wireless charging whatever I gotta say I saw that wireless charging base that they have and I was like Ooh, that looks nice. It's very one plus plus brandy It's got the red cable. Yeah, it's got a nice little white white stand that the phone can prop up on I Gotta admit that I think that's the I think that's the same wireless charging base the 50 watt wireless charging base They had with the one plus nine. Oh, it's gonna say they're their wireless charging bases have like evolved over the years And then this looks very familiar to me. Yeah, maybe a little Maybe they got the design right Michelle, can you send me yours cuz I like it I remember one point it was so chunky that it had like a fan on the inside. Yeah, I think you need it If you're charging wirelessly at 50 watts. Yeah But good good to see them embrace the wireless charging though, right? That's what everybody's criticism Everyone's number one favorite thing to pick on them for so they're like, uh-uh Very cool. I'm excited. I want to get my hands on this phone I love I'm loving the one one plus assance that we're going through. I think they're doing very cool I gotta tell you that we are like This is like I feel like it's a bevy a phone like we a bountiful harvest of phones over the past six months but going from the pixel fold to the to the One-plus open to the pixel 8 pro to the now Samsung Galaxy S24 Now the one plus 12 like these are solid phones Yeah, I'm gonna probably get a new a new bevy of Foldables and flippables in a few months probably something like that. And then who knows what's gonna be well Well speaking of that Coming up. I mean the neck like the the cheese the treadmill never stops but mobile world Congress 2024 is right around the corner and One-plus is expected to be present at the good old mobile world Congress 2024 with a wearable the rumors currently that the one plus watch 2 might appear next month at mobile world Congress It was intended to launch with the one plus 12 today according to Android authority to a source that Android authority had The next version is expected to run wear OS the previous version of the watch did not So really interesting if we'll see it in a month, you know, why they held it back Who knows if it comes out at World War Congress or doesn't well time will tell we'll have to see it But also in the wearables area of rumors the pixel watch 3 Nice little rumor that somewhere flow is screaming happily There might be some size variance to the pixel watch 3 It would just be one size rather a large and a small So yeah, so the two sizes would be a 41 millimeter as before and then something larger So not kind of expected that with the pixel watch 2 I was kind of surprised when it was a single smaller size That is a real issue. I tried to give my sister my pixel watch 2 and she could use it Like she's a stay-at-home mom runner after my my niece too big. She got small wrist. Just What do I'm looking for so wait the pixel watch 2 was too big for her wrist. Oh So then I wonder it. I think this leak is saying like this would be the small size. That's the small size. Yes There would be an even larger size for Okay, well Maybe we should just get a little tissue and or something just to kind of stuff under Wearable company can figure out to make a women's size smaller watch. I know there would be legions, you know, really y'all like Nature right smaller smaller bones come on help us out. It's not hard Well, Jason speaking speaking of pixel rumors. There's a little picture. There's some more pixel rumors, right? Well, yeah, so we've got to go ahead throw it on the stage here. We've got renders apparently of the pixel 9 pro courtesy of my smart price collaborating with on leaks to show these renders and so here I'll go ahead and pull up the The little rotating animation thingy thing so you can all see it So just take a gander at at least at this stage of the game. It is early obviously So, you know, lots of things could change if these are in fact, you know legitimate But you can see the camera bump Definitely different, right? It's no longer a bar that goes edge to edge. It's more like a pill shape Extended out The edges of the device itself a little flatter We're kind of used to seeing those little curvier like in this shot It really does kind of have a little bit of that like Traditional iPhone kind of quality to it as far as the edges are concerned a flatter design all around it Seems like so some of the curviness kind of looks like yeah heuristic or whatever that is Do you remember when like the whole design premise although it does it does remind? I mean, I don't like the flatness, but it does remind me of the folded pixel fold Okay, well that and that would make sense, right? Maybe the pixel fold was a yeah, you're right You're right. Does the pixel fold have the round this it's not as round Sorry, I was on mute. It does not as round, but it doesn't go edge to edge. Yep, and my yeah Yeah, this looks this looks like an evolution of the picture. It's like it's like it's like it's really curved it around See, I never got any time with the pixel fold. That is a boat that I that I ship that I missed Well, we were at IO we got the pull we get the hold it at IO, but you didn't get the play Yeah, I mean now that yeah, I didn't get to like live with it Same with the same with the open like these are devices that I've heard I just like I love my open so much and I want to use it as the daily driver I probably should I should just give I see this week I should just give it to you to play to at least get some time with because I'm not using it as a daily driver Because I'm just like afraid to jump off the pixel side of it So maybe it will do that and that'll give you some time at the fold give it a good home run. Yeah, yeah But I love it so much. I just bet on whether they're gonna keep the temperature sensor Oh, that was another thing that I thought was pretty funny looking at it. It was like, yeah I mean they're not keeping the temperature set. Okay, right a show of hands Anyone here ever legitimately thought like oh, this would be a perfect opportunity for the temperature sensor and then used it No, no, because it's not done. You can't because the temperature sensor I will tell you the temperature sensor the only reason why I want it is I want to hold it in front of my kids head and Tell me what my kids temperature is and it is not cleared by the FDA to do it And so my so if they're not gonna include the temperature sensor on the next phone That is the indicator that the FDA is not letting them do it That's my guess is that they didn't get government approval or whatever they need in order for because that is the only Application for a temperature sensor. I mean and the had to have been the primary reason that they even went that direction To begin with, you know, I don't know Rick Osterloh said that you could use it to like measure the temperature of a pan on your stove Yes, I can hold my hand up I know it's hot Rick. I know I can feel hot Rick. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm gonna put it I'm gonna put a thousand now device near I'm sooner just gonna hold my hand over. Oh, that's hot Well, so that was a lot a lot a lot a lot of hardware But doesn't mean we're not gonna stop there because we got some apps to talk about and when Before the show you're showing us your crazy keyboard. It's not as crazy as G board though What's going on with G board? No G boards getting some upgrades and not just G board but kind of in the theme of Making assistance and AI and all that kind of stuff more of an integral part of your day I actually really like this feature. So G board a specifically G board for pixel tablet as it looks right now is Kind of doing a better UI integration with the Google assistant voice typing So Google assistant voice tapping type not typing. No, it is typing. It's not tapping Google assistant voice typing is A feature where you can obviously, you know, enable voice to text using your keyboard now If you do if you have used it, you know, that's the normal way to get there is to open your keyboard Hit the little microphone and start talking Or you can say hey Hot hot hot hot word for the for the deep person type. So Rather than doing that well, actually when when that is activated Sorry, there's there's a couple stories here that when that is activated And if you're on kind of a larger screen device name with pixel tablet Rather than having the whole keyboard there while you're kind of using the Google assistant typing experience They have now working. They're not working on an optimized experience where rather than having no keyboard You're gonna have a kind of minimized Toolbar like a pill bar at the bottom so that you can actually see more of your screen when voice tapping which makes a lot of sense Right if I'm not using my keyboard when I have all that real estate back So I can actually, you know, see what is being typed and in the toolbar that remains You'll get, you know, kind of some of access to other things There's gonna be an overflow menu with settings like more voice commands, you know clipboard and translate and stuff like that There's gonna be another button to disable both this Google assistant typing and to show the full keyboard again And yeah, so I'm sorry and this overflow menu is going to be enabled From the keyboard with a new little pill button on the right when Google assistant typing is activated So you're gonna be able to switch between the traditional experience of keyboard up while your voice typing and then new sexy pill bar As your assistant voice typing. So yes, nine to five Google spotted it on their pixel tablet Not their pixel fold. So we'll see The actual scope of this but it's basically just, you know, again kind of leveraging Google assistant already and kind of making the UI Kind of fit this more, you know, assistant-y voicey World that we live in and to go with that is Seamless voice typing. So as I mentioned before usually when you access voice to type with G board You can't have to go through two step process where you hit a button Where you bring the keyboard you hit a button and then you activate voice typing There will be a new Feature it seems that nine to five Google's APK insight team spotted called seamless voice typing Basically, if your keyboard is shown it and you enable the feature your voice typing voice time will just start automatically when it hears you You know dictating to it. So there's you know, there's no longer a two-step process. It's just going to be okay I'm in typing mode. So whether I'm typing or you know dictating Google is trying to make it easier for you to do that It's going to be optional in the settings And remain exclusive to Google phones for now But yeah ways to make typing easier or at least make voice attacks typing easier on your keyboards So the seamless the seamless things see well, I mean for one. I've got my pixel tablet I'm going to go that going through its paces with this and we can keep a look at for it And see if I can use it for the assistant But the seamless voice typing if it's anything like the seamless conversations with assistant on the nest hub and stuff like that It's going to be fraught with disaster. I'm so dubious of it Number of times assistant interrupts the conversation because it thinks I'm talking to it and I'm not is So which I'm glad that a the keyboard needs to be active and you need to switch this on But even then you I could be typing something and doing something while I'm in a conversation with somebody else like that There's so so many opportunities for that to mess. Yeah, how many times how many times are we actually just you know Just in typing mode like as people using phones. I mean, I would say a percentage of the time I mean like like if I'm alone in my office and I'm typing I'm doing something like that makes sense But like if I'm out in a social situation or for mountain public or if I'm in the kitchen talking to my wife or whatever it might be Like it's not a hundred percent of the time and there's no way the device will ever know and I'm glad I'm there. They're doing these things to enable really cool features that sound great on paper in a very specific use case or situation and Unfortunately, the question is whether or not the value of that of that use case is valuable in that moment or Frustrating not in that moment and if that's a balance just to just to clarify I don't think seamless voice typing is gonna be dependent on like you actually start talking and then it'll switch to the voice mode I think this setting just makes it so that when you when you like open the keyboard It'll automatically switch to the voice typing mode. Correct, right But but I could open the keyboard and not want it to be voice. Yeah, like I'm typing I'm talking to my husband over my shoulder. It's gotta be something you got it's a toggle It's gonna be a toggle in the keyboard settings that yeah Which so the question is how many times so I toggle it on and then three weeks later I forget I toggle it on and I go to respond to a text message while I'm in the middle of a conversation And it just gets nonsense and I go on I toggle it off. I never use it again But that that's what could happen and that's the point though. It's supposed to be less like friction to get to this feature But if it'll cause friction in other ways or just you know, I don't know I just It's nice idea have faith they can pull it off. Come on No So what else can they pull off Jason? I don't know what else can they pull off? Oh, yeah, it probably has something to do with artificial intelligence So let's see here Bard coming to Google messages. That's not necessarily is that news Is this the first time that we're hearing that Bard might come to Google messages because I feel like yeah It's coming everywhere Anyways nine to five Google spotted code that Bard would be able to do things like draft messages Identify images suggest books by genre offer recipes basically anything Bard can do the news here being that essentially within your Google messages experience the way that you would normally fire up a conversation with another person You will also be able to according to nine five Google's code sleuthing Fire up a conversation with Bard So messages would become another conduit for Bard integration And I guess just think of it as through the lens of like if Bard were a person You'd go in there to ask that person a question and that seems to be the kind of thought here Anything you can do Bard can do better Although it does kind of you know, they do point out the reference to aloe And you know ala's kind of integration of assistant into the chat experience and this feels very familiar In that regard, I mean it all feels like a rerun doesn't it like Redux, it's 2.0. I mean so many other messaging apps let you talk to the chatbot like I think Facebook messenger has that Snapchat has that and now just yeah, that's true. That's true Yeah And then another kind of piece of this is this rebranding potential Ninety-five Google, you know reminded us that assistant with Bard was part of the pixel eight event announcement it's called assistant with Bard and At least up to two weeks ago the onboarding for Bard on mobile still called it assistant with Bard, but The new Google app 15.2 code shows it's rewarded too high. I'm Bard Which I suppose is better than assistant without all those features We just killed because we laid off part of the team I mean, but Anyways, does it's does it's does anyone else think that assist the the the clock is ticking on the assistant branding? Oh Probably I mean it's that way. Yeah, we're killing stuff off of it moving it Right. We so we reported it last year when they removed they moved so many people onto the bar team was barred barred Bard Like we're gonna retire assistant is everything's just gonna be barred Yeah Yeah Assistant is walking. What do you think assistant or Bard is a better branding Bard? Right now. It's funny. I'm being we're being critical here saying. Oh, do you think you're rid of assistant? I've never thought assistant was good branding for it. I thought I think Bard gives it that Siri like Identity one for me. Yeah one syllable, you know, I'll ask Bard like it's fine like, you know, you know But at some point it's just all it's all nonsense. What I mean is Bard better than Bixby or Siri I don't know. I mean, I think they're better than assistant personally, but that's just yeah It's just a constant shuffling and back and forth and like just never know what to call anything anymore just Trouff this is shuffle the branding Yeah, the old the old Android shuffle. I love it All right Well one last note on apps this near and dear to my heart as a as a hardcore user of Google photos One of my biggest complaints is the fact that it's a mess that I just Scrolls and scrolls and scrolls and scrolls of pictures Especially when you're trying to get enough pictures of your kids to use best take to get smiles out of them Which by the way, I've been using more and more and I'm getting fantastic results. I'm very but but so This is a feature that was available on Google photos in iOS and it's now coming to Android finally But we've already heard about it a little it's called photo stacks And basically what it's gonna do is it gonna take groups of similar photos into stacks So if you got a you know 100 photos of your kids playing outside will collapse them into one stack You know if all photos taken at a similar time Google will determine the top pick for the top of the stack We'll also call out the number of photos that are in the stack And it only works if backup feature is turned on which I have it turned on and it is a server side push So I think it's great it tidies it up. Let's me you know add a layer into you know Like I've got the 15 minutes. I was playing outside with the kids and taking pictures into a stack I can dive deeper to find the pics I want from that So I'm all for this so this is cool. So I mean, I love that This was announced I think two months ago and now it's finally starting to roll out just quietly. Yeah But I'll take it What I would like a little more from Google photos especially with best take and all the AI stuff that's in there is some sort of visual distinction between an original versus a edited photo Which they don't always it's not apparent in that scrolling kind of situation like I did a best take and then I got Distracted and now I'm trying to find it and it just drops it in the batch of everything that you've got like I want to know this is like give the little sparkle around it or give the little icon or something on it So I actually to that end it's it's kind of surprising that Google doesn't and makes me think that probably eventually They will because there is this kind of movement right now to Essentially mark up when something has been you know Created with some sort of generative AI and I know Google supports that as well I'd be really surprised that didn't make its way in there to some degree because that that is yeah That is a total pain when you just have to see if images and you're like wait Oh, where did that thing go that I just you know created somewhere in here Now I got to open them all up and look closely at the paces to make sure One of the you mentioned that Jason because that's something I forgot to mention about the s24 series whenever you edit one of those photos Which generative AI feature it adds a little watermark on the bottom left People find out you can easily get rid of it I guess but like it does add that watermark and it is there and in the gallery app There's even like a tag that says edited with generative AI No, yeah, I was gonna show I was gonna show the most recent example of a best-take photo I took my kids, but it's my kids in the bath and I realized that we I don't want the video To get flagged There was nothing visible, but Marketing opportunity for them just to highlight. Hey look how amazing this photo turned out It was it was it was you know edited the best take, you know kind of dual purpose of both being you know Good AI using citizens and also marketing. Well, I mean I had that I can't remember if I told it on this show or not But I had the like the perfect use case for best take when my daughter's soccer team was done And they all lined up, you know all the girls lined up to get their photo taken And I just took like 10 pictures and I went back and looked and not one of them Perfect, but I use best taken I got the perfect one and I sent it out. They're like, oh my god This is amazing. So yeah, the perfect use case Too fun. Yeah. All right. Well, those are all the apps stories that we're talking about before we're gonna wrap up the show We want to hear from you everybody out there And did you know that you can email set contact at android faithful calm? But if you are a member of patreon you could also send us a message on patreon So go to patreon comm slash android faithful and you could send us a note that way We receive messages in that box mailbox, too And in fact, that's our first message for tonight comes from patreon So Michelle wants you to take it away All right, our first message comes from Alp on from London And they had a question for us in your last show you discussed Samsung falling into second place in units sold worldwide Whereas Apple's market share keeps on growing I'm a huge pixel fan and my question is how aggressive do you think Google will be in pushing for a larger market share over the next Few years, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on how invested you think Google actually are in producing pixel hardware in the long term Knowing how easily Google can pivot and how easily they kill software slash hardware products. Thank you And thank you for writing into us often from London and yeah, I There's a lot of people saying like looking at this hardware event that get Samsung recently had last week and saying Oh, is Google actually committed to the pixel lineup? Like what's the deal here? And as I mentioned, I think they have a multi-prong strategy because they are Competing versus app iPhone slash iOS and it's not just with their own pixel hardware. They're competing They're using to compete with it's all of Android devices any device that runs Android is in Google strategy to compete against iPhone slash iOS I Don't know I mean the fact the fact that they are they're offering seven-year support for pixel devices shows that they're in it for At least the next seven years You know and I think willing to support do you have the current problem and I feel like I'll pen your question is one that you know Jason, I know you and I have talked about since The Nexus line right whereas like is Google a hardware company or they Totally with some hardware and that sort of thing and they kind of play both sides in the middle I don't think Google personally. I don't think even at this state in time. I don't think Google is chasing Hardware dominance of the Samsung Apple like and Michelle to your point they want Android to have that dominance But whether it's Android or cross pixels Samsung one plus, you know, you know Huawei all the other ones that are maybe not why but all the other ones that are out there They'll accept that and I think the pixel just becomes this nice kind of reference device Corner of the universe of like well, this is how we prefer to see it roll out You could be part of the pixel experience or not. I don't know. That's my thought And I mean, you know, it's not for nothing, but we're at we're at eight pixels now Like that's you know eight eight solid years of Google committing itself to something. That's pretty impressive So I don't have you overheard I didn't say hey G But my Google pixel tablet woke up and it just said I don't know But I found these search results and it's giving me a reddit article saying what is the selling point of each phone? brand from the Android reddit So Google's trying to get involved in this conversation Can I get a word in y'all are talking about me, can I say something? That's too funny All right, when I think you got the next one I do and the next one that is From Chad and San Antonio in your January 16th episode Y'all said it would be cool to use a smartwatch to control computer with AR glasses for the output I've been craving this ever since project solely was announced I dream of a future where I can have a computer in my pocket solely on my wrist AR in my glasses and be fully productive without ever needing a desk monitor keyboard or mouse Chad and San Antonio. So I love this email Chad because It's been a hot topic with the Apple Vision Pro coming out and people doing it like the idea of the infinite canvas And we're talking about it with the b-reel X what was Michelle that you saw CS that X real X real. Yeah, I won't call x-ray specs, but that's a band I And I was talking about it some of my friends this week I am all in on the glasses as the display like we talked about last week with Adam like I want this too Like I want a new interface and I want it to be XR You know or AR related like let me put on some glasses like Ender's game and have a you know Just have all my displays in front of me. I'm on sign me up Whatever I got to do Whoever I think one peripheral that's gonna be hard to do away with is a keyboard like I don't know if you've been keeping up with The Apple Vision Pro like early impressions a lot of people have been saying that typing on the virtual keyboard is terrible And that if you want to get any actual work done, you need a keyboard Yeah, so I don't see any way we're gonna get around that unless like voice typing becomes good What about right and Michelle this might be dating you this might be dating you because you're you're younger and that's okay I'm not holding against you, but when we were kids there was something called the Nintendo power glove And it had a keyboard along the side like Just saying maybe Johnny Mimonic was right or that whole That whole period of 90s tech kind of thing like give me give me a compact keyboard But yeah, I mean yeah, I'm with in all seriousness. You're right Michelle that they're gonna need to they're gonna need to Figure out typing and maybe it's voice typing, but honestly like We were talking before that we're talking before we went live with the show like I'm in them I'm in the market for new monitors and stuff. I imagine if I didn't need a monitors I could still use my physical keyboard, but I have them, you know Just these glasses as my monitor that that I would love that that would be so cool Well, can you imagine as a developer typing with your voice? No Dictate code, I mean you could I mean you could say right like oh wow Four I equals yada yada Then do this. I feel like you quickly go and say Well, I mean the AI would fix it for you though the the dev bot would fix it I mean, it's better to type on your power glove with one hand. No, I was saying Jason I think now actually I'm kind of sold on the power glove Most of us type with one hand anyway, and then you can actually get like your whole well most of us type of one hand You're you're wackadoo keyboard one hand You know so funny I was out of speaking of keyboards and and and smartphones I was at a we had a family event this past weekend with my in-laws and my sister-in-law saw me responding to a message on my Phone and I was just using G board, but swiping yeah thumb and she was like well What are you doing and I was like I was like I'm typing she's like and she's like no This is how you type when she held her phone didn't do that I'm like no, and I showed her how this work She'd never seen it before didn't even know is a thing and like to me I'm like this is how I've been typing for How long I'm a mixture though. I'm not always dedicated to that. I'm only swipe. I'm only do it swipe ways Swipe in swipe out All right last email comes from Chris Barrett Washington DC who says like Ron I To play the USB cable round robin trying to figure out why my pixel 6 constantly dropped connection from the head unit in my 2015 Kia Soul I even added the AA wireless dongle in hopes that would help I also wondered if there was a problem with the USB a connector However after doing some research I found out there was a firmware update for the car's touchscreen interface That was said to resolve the problems. I was having I downloaded the update from the Kia site and installed it per the instructions And voila problem fixed for me I think it has been at least a year since I did that and no problem since may not be everyone's issue But I know others on the panel have said they too have issues and thought it might help to share this information Thanks for bringing back the show the departure of a a a left a big gap in my podcast addict line up Chris Barrett, thank you. Wow. That was that was it. That was it. That was like a bingo email That was a ah Android auto email. It was also a podcast addict mention email and a triple Yeah, a wireless that was good Chris. Good job there Yeah, no, I still haven't got my car fixed I'm waiting for the dealer to call me tell me that they have the part that they need to fix my USB ports But yeah, that's a good It was funny because I I got an email from Subaru telling me that the firmware of my car needed to be updated And I went to go do it and I couldn't do it. So I called service like, oh, yeah No, that email went out by mistake. You're you're not due for one. I was like, oh, okay I got really disappointed then so but Troubleshooting cars and connectivity is no is no fun. So yeah, yeah All right, dude. Cool. Well, thank you Chris Chad and Alpan for writing us and you too get in on the action We've gotten so many emails recently. We try we we try to pick and choose the best ones We'll try to get as many as we can as always every week email us a contact at android faithful.com or send us a message on patreon We appreciate it. Oh, you get to hear from you all that's going to wrap up this week's episode bravo. Michelle great work at samsung galaxy unpacked Yeah, just I guess take a breather. Are you going to mobile war congress? I want to I want you to I was gonna say if you were I was gonna get very annoyed because I want that I'm on but if anyone's listening here. If you need someone to go to unpack and cover your product. I'm here All right, well, we'll see we'll stay tuned. That's the next big event. So we'll see In the meantime Jason, huh? Just tell us more about your new show. Huh my new show. That's right It launches tomorrow. That would be wednesday january 24th called ai inside me and jeff jarvis who you Already know if you listen to twit podcasts and this week in google He's one of the hosts on this week in google. Anyways, he and I are going to be Talking about ai every week and really right now. It's looking like it's going to be kind of in interviews focused show With, you know, some news dotted around it and everything And we're kind of evolving it as we go. So we've got the website ai inside dot show We do have a patreon that you can go to at support dot ai inside dot show And yeah, I'm really excited slightly nervous because you know when you launch a new show it's kind of like oh, I hope everything goes well and That's tomorrow. So I'm sure things will go just great and dandy, but I'm really excited I hope you'll check it out ai inside dot show. Are you going to be live streaming to twitch as well? So we will be doing a live stream. We have the live stream to twitch and to YouTube on both platforms do a search for at yellow gold studios That's kind of the name of my kind of content business as it were as i'm building it yellow gold studios do a search on youtube and twitch And uh, yes, we're going to be streaming there 11 a.m. Pacific 2 p.m. Eastern and it should be about an hour So uh, look for it Thank you ron very exciting. I'm so A little behind the scenes. I know you've been working on this for a while So i'm so excited to see it get out in the world So, uh, thank you for all your help. You've been a good sounding board. Hey, we're all we're on one team I'm very excited to learn more about ai from you. Jeff. Jeff's approach. He's the best. So yes, indeed. Cool. Thank you All right, so michelle Tell us where we can find you You can find me everywhere on twix mastodon threads, etc I'm not going to run down the list of platforms. I'm on too too many to list You can just search my name at michelle roman and if you want to Follow my work and Support my work better yet. You can go to patreon.com slash michelle roman. I do share some Um exclusive posts. I have a discord community. That's pretty active And uh, just the other day I shared a tutorial on how to enable circle to search early on your pixel phone If you don't want to wait for google to roll it out. Ooh, that one got some attention But uh, yeah, if you want to support me you can head there And of course, I recommend you also subscribe to android faithful because that also supports me because we put a lot of effort into this show Yeah, sure do All right, uh, thank you michelle When how about you working folks find you? Uh, sorry. Yes, um I'm sorry y'all. I'm getting sick from like traveling back east last week. So um, who am I? I'm an android developer I talk about android development things you can find my talks and associated code and video at my website right only typing that come and you can find me on the internet Let's be real basically got instagram at queen code monkey Maybe i'll be at other places as well, but i mean i'm just barely on instagram. So find me there In here every tuesday excellent Uh and last but not least you can follow me over on all the various socials at ron xo And if you're looking for something else to listen to head over to my other podcast over at ifanboy.com We released our monthly media splode episode where we caught up on what we've been watching Over the past couple months over the holidays And I talked a lot about the beckham documentary on netflix I went to the theaters to see poor things and saw maestro But most of all slow horses on apple tv plus is such a such a good show if you're not watching slow horses check that out Gary oldman at his finest. Uh, it's fantastic. So good. I fanboy listen a whole discussion there. That was a fun one But well, thank you for listening to this podcast. You guys are fantastic. We do it for you the android community Because we love android. We love talking about to about it with you every week That's gonna wrap it up for this week's show. We publish this podcast every tuesday evening after we live stream it out on youtube and twitch thanks to our friends and Parents or whatnot at daily tech news show for letting us hang out on their youtube and twitch channels Definitely want to check it out email us at contact at android faithful.com and make sure you go to android faithful.com Where you can subscribe find all the links everything find the patreon everything you need is there And until next time we'll be back here because we are the android faithful