 What's up, good people, and welcome back to SPM Buzz. My name is Shiko Gita. We are right here at the Jumukiniata International Airport and we have the beautiful Harbida. How are you today? I'm good, tired, but I'm okay. Welcome back home. Thank you very much. Yeah, so I just got back from Dubai. I was there with my business partner working on a few business deals. I was there for three nights and I'm exhausted, but happy to be back home. And I think I read somewhere you're currently based in Dubai, you and your family? No, no, we're based here. I just, you know, now we are looking for dollars. The Kenyan currency is crippled at the moment. I don't know what's happening. So yeah, just doing... I'm a business woman as well. I've always said that. So this is the business side of me working in Dubai here. Looking beautiful and young. Turning 42 this year, right? In August. Turning 43 this year. Oh, sorry, 43. Yes. Serene gani Harbida, John. It's exercise, eating well, you know, and my mother's genes. What can I say? Someone mentioned that maybe probably supplement. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I... That's the Tuva interviews in there. You know, I tell Tuva all the truth. No, no, no, I just... Keeping slim is don't let anybody fool you. Lazima, you don't eat. Yeah, you don't eat. So he was asking me where you get your vitamins from. I said supplement. Wow, so it's something you would also advise willing out there? No, I wouldn't advise you to do it at all. It's just... It's just what works for my body. Why? Because I don't think it's very healthy. Okay, when I say I don't eat, you know, as we like Ugarli, Chapati. No, I don't have... I don't eat carbs. And usually, like for example, right now I'm on set. When I'm on set, I don't eat, you know? Because you're so busy working, you forget to eat. So when I say sereni, not eating, it's not that it's always by choice. You know, during the interview, you also mentioned something that has cost a whole debate online. Oh, really? Yeah, and Havida, you mentioned that... What is the debate? It's a little hard for you to work with Kenyan female artists. It's a little hard for me. It's hard for... Have you wear the female collabo? Why aren't we working together? Why don't we? Have you tried to approach any and it was hard for you? I think someone did it for me once and I guess they had some sort of inhibition about working with me, something apparently that happened ages ago, which I probably don't even remember, but she has a chip on her shoulder and you know, what do we do? I tried once, but it was... You know, when someone says, hey, you should... and then you say, okay, maybe. You know, alafu kaisha trivo. So what advice will you have to Kenyan female artists? It's always better together. If you work together, you win. So this means you feel there's a lot of... Look at the industry with the men. Every collabo the man does, they share the limelight, which means you share fans, you share love, right? And if we did that more, we'd all be bigger as women artists. Yeah, we lack staying power because we stand alone, so... Do you feel there is hatred among Kenyan female artists? I don't know if it's hatred. I think it's just... Girl, I don't know. You know me, I don't have those issues. I believe that everyone's favor, everyone's luck, everyone's blessing is their own. Even if I work with you, you will never take what's for me. That's how I believe. So when they don't... I don't know, girl. I don't know. And of course, a lot of people got to know you from the sunshine sounds featuring Nameless. And rumors are already out there that you're working on a collabo with the one and only Kali Graf Jones. Is it true? Well, it's not a rumor, I said it with my own mouth. So, you know, let's see, we're getting in studio this month. Let's see what comes out. You guys have already talked about it? Yeah, yeah, we've talked about it, yeah. Why Kali Graf Jones specifically? I think he's amazing. I think he's absolutely amazing. I love his style. I love his business sense. He's humble, you know. He's someone who'll still answer the phone. You know, he's someone who's just... He knows his business. I love everything he is. And I love his music. Is he your favorite Kenyan musician? He's my favorite person. Wow, your favorite person. He's my favorite person to work with. If you ask me who you want to work with, I know if I work with Kali Graf, it's going to be crazy. What do you think? It's amazing. I also love him. Musically, that guy is good. And maybe you'll also want to know your best female Kenyan artist. I think I mentioned... I mean, we've been looking, the team and I, I think there's a whole bunch of great artists now. There's not just one. You know, we're doing well. The younger generation is doing their thing. So, I don't know. Let me answer that question. I think Jovi was very good. Yeah, she's very good. So, let's see. Okay, because of time, let me take you back a little to a year and some months ago. Okay. And you were in a certain radio interview and you mentioned, or rather you shared that you had some interest in Tivo Simple Boy. Yeah, when I came back home, he was doing really well. And we also had a conversation. It didn't materialize. But again, if you look at his story, it's great. You know, sometimes it's more than just the music. It's the story. He's a real success story and my heart's off to him, Kapsa. All right. I want you to talk to ladies out there. Because you have been having stories of femicides. A lot of women are losing their lives. And also remembering that many, many years ago you were in a situation that wasn't so good for you, the quote-unquote, the rape story. What advice would you have to ladies out there? Obviously, my situation was different. I was amongst friends. So when you talk about there's different situations happening at the moment and women are being blamed for being in certain positions or putting themselves. I don't care what position you are put in. No one should take anyone's life. You cannot take it in your own hands. God gave life. He takes it back. It's not anybody's right to do that. So I condemn the fact that any human being, even men get raped. They just don't talk about it. But at the moment it's women and it's coming out. I just think it's ridiculous. So stop killing each other. And then I think if you now see this is the situation women take better care of yourself. You just have to be extra careful. We've always had to be. This is not new. Now it's just the world of social media. I just think women just be careful and be careful who you put yourself with. Now more than ever. You mentioned that maybe your situation was quite different because you are in a group of friends. Maybe one thing you'll learn from that situation. I don't know how you can learn from that. Was it something that you... It was a violation on all I've taken from it. I'm stronger for it and I will always speak out about it. And it's actually the reason I have my NGO. And I work with women and I support homes that take care of women who have sexual abuse and there's no learning from that situation. At times they say healing might take a long time. I hope you are doing well. Right now you forgive yourself and everything that happened. I came out with this years ago and the reason when I can talk about it and talking about it was part of my healing because they tell you don't say anything. So when you keep it inside it grows and manifests other things. But when you talk about it it becomes easier to deal with. Thank you so much Habida for your time and we are hoping to see you more often. No idea. I'm about to kill it. Thank you so much. Thank you.