 Animals eat animals. We don't need to eat animals, so do we. That was the most interesting conversation ever. I've never heard anyone's reach so far. I thought you would know that if you know a lot about farmers. That's the way that we accept humans to die. We accept humans to die in gas chambers? We are Leicester Square again, London, Burger King behind us. We've got the Enrich Caged Facility here that we exposed for the Uncovered series. I'm going to talk to people because Enrich cages for eggs are more common than what you think. Looking at about 36% of eggs are coming from these facilities here. That's quite a high number considering there's 66 million people in the UK or maybe more by now. That's quite a lot of our hens being exploited in these facilities. This was one of the most frightening places I've ever been in. You saw how shocked I was in the video. I was just in complete disarray in there. The hens are just going mad in there. It's just insane and there's dead birds in the cages. It's just multi-level story, animal exploitation, prison it was. Let's see what the public think of it. Do you know what this facility is? That's me in there by the way. Can you see? Yeah, I don't know. This is for eggs, in England for eggs. Okay, I don't really have any though. Yeah, which is why I don't eat eggs actually. I don't eat them. Or other animal products because so much cruelty involved. Violence as well. Kind of factory. Factory farm? Yeah, factory, yeah, bad. It's a factory farm. Factory farm for animals, yeah. Can't be bad. Do you think they can be good? No really. I'm more in that organic way. Organic? Natural. Natural? Yeah, because we eat animals. Animals eat animals. They do? Yeah. Animals do horrible things to each other. But in the right environment, in natural environment. We don't need to eat animals, do we? No, yes we do. We choose to, we choose to. We need one particular... Nutrient, B12? No, I don't know the name exactly now. But one particular protein is coming only for the blood. And can't be... Iron, you mean iron? It's a kind of, it's no iron. It's something... B12. Combination, no. It's no people, it's no iron. I don't remember now. No, no, no, no, no, the medical condition. It's a nutrient. As a people, we need that... Well, it's a protein, but I don't... What about me, what do you think about me? Do you think I get that nutrient that you're talking about? Can't be fixed. We can't have from something else. So, you know, I haven't eaten animals. I've been vegan for eight years. Maybe you believe that. No, but I haven't eaten animals for eight years. Maybe you believe that, but you never know. I never know? Yeah. I'm living proof. Living proof you don't have to eat animals. And you can't see an animal on your plate on these days. That's not mean you don't eat the animal proteins. From where? I mean, you never know what they make sense. Do you remember the horse meat scandal? Well, you think they're making, putting meat in my vegan food? Yes, can be. Without me knowing, that's why I'm not dead? Yes, can be. Otherwise I should be dead? Can be. No. Okay. No. So, you won't die from not eating animals, but you might get very sick? It's like freina di wasi. Like bones, flowers, which actually is provided even though... Flowered bone? Like bone meal? Yeah. So, they're putting bones in my food? No, that can be put actually as... Virtualizer? Yes. So, you think the plants actually have the nutrient from the bodies of the animals? Can be. We never know. We never know. So, that's why I don't have to eat animals is because the animals are actually in the plants? Is that the... Can be. Can be. Okay. I'd prefer to go with like more science-based approach and like most plant-based diets can be healthy for all stages of life? Even in the science, the science can be pushed on the limit, but you can't go over. If you found out that you didn't need to eat animals, let's just say you found out, would you still eat the animals? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. I can't say now. How about you, if you found out you didn't require animal protein? I'm not in that position, yeah, to have and to be to know like hundred... What I know is what is double processed, yeah, like food, that's dangerous for your body. Oh, of course. I understand that. Yeah. It's actually nothing. We'll make some changes on molecular, you know, level for generation. Not for now. You will don't feel, but if you have the child... My child's gonna be sick? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. You'd probably be sick on your child. You never know, especially... I mean, you never know what eating animals does to people, too. We actually do know. We do know, because heart disease is the number one killer of people. You're talking 17 million people a year die of heart disease, saturated fat and cholesterol. Cholesterol is only found in animal foods only. There's no cholesterol in plants, so we know that. So I'd go with what we do know versus what we don't know and some imagination or fear. That's why everyone's free to choose. Yeah. You're free to be cruel to the animals. You are free to do that. But that's why I ask for people's heart conscience. Because you legally can do this to the animals if you want. You can pay for this. But I ask people to use their heart, not just what's legal and what you can do. Yeah, that's true. I respect that. Bless you. That was the most interesting conversation ever. He literally said, The reason I'm not dead from being vegan is because they're hiding animal products in the vegan food. That's why I'm not dead. You know? I've never heard anyone's reach so far to go, Well, the reason that you're still alive is they're grinding up bits of animal when putting it in your vegan food. And that's why you're getting that magical nutrient that's only found in animals. That was crazy. I took this footage. Hello. I don't know the tips at all, mate. Yeah, I filmed in here. That's me in the footage. That was the other night in England. You do realise that all farms are like that, right? You do realise that all farms are like that, right? Well, 36% of the eggs in the UK come from enriched cages. This is an enriched cage barn. If it's not all farms, show me the good one. The chickens in my garden. Ah, okay. Well, that's not a farm. That's your garden. You should see my garden, mate. It's close to being a farm. Is it really? It's like 46 tubs of fruit and vegetables in every... Oh, good work. ...every inch of space. Good on you. Well, what's happening is I don't eat all the animals. Why not? Do you eat the animals? I eat, yeah. Of course I eat the animals. Why do you eat the animals? So it's not a debate I'm going to have right now. I don't eat my chickens. I don't eat those chickens. Do you like those chickens? Yeah, of course. I buy them as pets because I like them as animals. The eggs are just a byproduct of having them. But, yeah, they do a few things for me. They keep the grass down, keep the bugs off the edge. Animals only are good in terms of, like, what they can do to serve people? Is that what you think? They shouldn't just exist. There's a lot of animals that only exist because of people. If we stopped eating them, they wouldn't be here. They would be extinct faster than us killing them. A lot of animals, yeah, of course. I grew up in the countryside, so I'm a bit better informed than the average person about the way that the farms work, the byproducts and everything. And I think a lot of vegans... What was that? A flyer? The amount of times I speak to the vegan protesters and I see them with leather handbags, leather belts, leather shoes. No, man. No, but you might be mistaken because some vegan leather looks like leather, but it's not leather. Oh, yeah, that's right. I think there's a lot of people who... Oh, you couldn't be... But let's just say, well, they'd be a hypocrite, but what they're preaching is still correct. But they need to live by what they're preaching. Of course, yeah, I mean, I do. Yeah, of course. But, like, I could say... Like, someone could say... Do something horrible and then speak out against it. But what they're saying is still right. My personal food issues... Yeah. There are certain things that I won't eat. Like what? I don't buy any eggs that come from battery farms. Like, the battery... These are called enriched cage facilities. I don't buy any enriched cages. I know. Battery cages, I don't think... You call it an enriched cage just to s*** a little bit of sandpaper. Well, they give this little, like, scratching thing s***. Yeah, and I don't buy eggs... So where do you buy them from? I get them from my garden. Okay, yeah. But what about bacon? If I was going to buy them, I'd go to the farm shop or the farm's market. Okay, and where do the... So you get all your meat and flesh? I eat from the bushes, but my thing with meat, I won't eat veal, I... Why? I won't eat veal, I won't eat foie gras, and I won't eat halal. Why is that? Because I've seen the process involved in either raising or killing those animals. And I don't like it. Well, I've seen the process involved for raising and killing just conventional animals, and it's no better. I know, from experience, the majority of farmers raising something like beef cattle. They've got a lot of time left. Well, let's talk about... I think those animals live very well. Well, let's talk about the... When they're killed, the majority of them, the responsible farmers, those animals are killed as quickly and painlessly. The farmers don't kill the animals. The slaughterhouse workers do... But they are killed as quickly and painlessly as possible. You don't know that? I've done that job. No, but you don't know that for sure? I did that job. What, bolt gunning cows? Okay. But you know how pigs are slaughtered? I never did pigs. Well, I'm... Pigs are... Pigs are stunned and in blood. Yeah, so how do they stun them? They're stunned and in blood, and which is it? No, they don't. Oh, they do, like, for a small percentage, but most of them are killed in... They're stunned in gas chambers in the UK. I thought you would know that if you know a lot about farming. That's the way that we accept humans to die. We accept humans to die in gas chambers? Definitely. Gas chambers are used in a lot of places. People who've done something evil. Okay. Yeah, but the animals have done nothing wrong. But does that person deserve to suffer with this? I don't agree with that. I'm just saying, like, they've done something wrong. There's an indictment against them. The pigs have done nothing wrong. How many animals die growing vegan or vegetarian? I can answer you that, but... You know that it's more than... You know you went from the pigs suffering in the chamber to how many animals die in crops. I think that what you're trying to do is avoid the fact that pigs are suffering in gas chambers, and instead... We're on a microphone right now. Why are that? To see a friend over there filming. Yeah, because... I'm happy to have a debate with you, but I don't like the being... But why not? Because I don't want to be on YouTube. Yeah, but... I'll happily debate anything with you. I can blow your face, but this is a public space, so if you're going to talk to me in a public area... Listen, best of luck. No, I appreciate it, mate. All right, that was an interesting conversation with that fellow there. He wanted to focus on cows and his backyard hens, but he didn't want to talk about the pigs. As soon as we started talking about gas chambers, he wanted to talk about crop depths. Because I feel like... Once you get them to a point with the... Like, the gas chamber point where pigs suffer and die in, his first thing is to do is to appeal to hypocrisy and go for the crop depths. He wants to have some type of accusation against you instead of addressing the moral point. But obviously most of the crops, like, what do you think pigs are eating? They're eating crops. What do you think cows are eating? They're eating crops. And there's more crop deaths incurred because of meat and dairy and eggs than because of human consumption. So... But anyways, it's supposed to be about enriched caged eggs and just spiralled off into a conversation about humane slaughter with that security guard. So... Anyways, we'll keep going. This is an egg facility. What? This is an egg facility in the UK. Eggs? Eggs, yeah. Yeah, this is me in there. It's not you, is that you? Yeah, that's me. Let's see. Oh, it's not like that's against battery farming, basically. Well, this particular topic is today, but I'm against the exploitation and cruelty to all animals. So you're vegan. Yeah. You're vegan, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What do you think of that? It's fine, it's absolutely fine. I can't argue with that. Yeah, because the reason I went vegan is because I felt like I didn't want to put those animals in this suffering, yeah. So I felt it was consistent with my values. So my actions are consistent with my values, what I believe. Are you against the cruelty to animals? Oh, of course, yeah. We're the recent people who have cruelty to animals. Well, most people pay for it, don't they? So that's why I just ask people if they're against it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what about in your actions? Are you against cruelty to animals in your actions? You mean eating them, wearing them? I was vegetarian at one time, but now. I don't eat much meat. I tend to eat fish. Oh, you eat the fishes? I do eat fish, yeah. I'm not a vegan scanner. Can you be cruel to a fish? Do you think? I know. I work with it. Some day I work with cheese vegan. I know what it stands for, you know. So you fish can experience cruelty, yeah? I'm sure, yes. So if you're eating them, you're kind of part of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it seems like you already know anyway. I know what a vegan is all about. A lot of people they know, but they don't want to do anything about it. You do end up with quite a narrow range. For example, you can't eat honey either, can you? Or any kind of milk? It's just animal products. I mean, I choose not to eat honey because of the... Oh, eggs, you can't eat eggs either, can you? No, but I use tofu instead of... You see, it's quite a narrow range. No, no, it's actually... There's more plant foods in the world than there are animals to eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's about, what is that, 10 animal products you don't have to eat? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But instead of eggs, we just use tofu, vegan eggs. I'm aware of it, yeah. You are? Well, I'm aware of it. Yeah, I know what it stands for, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Anyway, alright, no worries, buddy. The biggest enemy is not those who kind of come with fierce opposition. It's the apathy. It's the, I know about it, I mean, do I care enough to change? Probably not. You know, that's really the enemy of the animals is apathy. People who come up and oppose vehemently, passionately, they're the people who actually care enough to stop and they're having some type of emotional reaction. But other people, they just get this like blasé kind of nonchalant attitude. This apathy, that is the reason why things like this can happen. It's apathy. The people sanction it. It's nice to say I was kicking them to make him tender before I ate them. It's always the boyfriend though, more of a harder not to crack. You watch all my videos and you're not a vegan. You're not the one who's urgently, desperately, you know, pleading for their life.