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So we know how important it is to get started right, but we also know how important and effective it is to have support, and that's what the forum adds. So we put that all together. If you got them all individually, you'd spend about 50% more than this starter pack is priced at. And you can find it at mindpumpmedia.com. Doug knows it. Snow White. No, dude. You guys ever watch this? It's a great TV show. Sounds like every Disney... Give us some time here, bro. That's just a movie. God damn it. I hate you guys. Here, I'll give you one more hint. Warning. Warning. Oh, that's the space one. Lost in space. Yes! God, that was great. Did you guys ever watch that? I did, yeah. I loved that. I did. I remember. Warning Will Robinson. Yeah, other than that robot that was... Stupid. Yeah, it looked like it was a washing machine or something. Why would you do that? Isn't it funny when you watch... Boop, boop, boop. Sci-Fi movies and their interpretation of a robot. What a robot would look like. Based on the era that movie was made. Yeah. It's like when robots... Like when they first made Sci-Fi movies. Everything looked like an appliance. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Like a refrigerator. Yeah. Now we make robot... Like we make Sci-Fi movies with robots. We make robot we want to fuck. What? That's what we do. That's what we do. That's the goal. Everybody wants to make a robot we can bang. That's kind of true, isn't it? Just tell me I'm wrong. But we... We watch the alien, the new alien, and there's the android, whatever guy. Yeah. But they always make them a little bit non-human. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you have to. Yeah. We're a little creeped out if it's too human. You know what I'm saying? Like if it's like... It has the expressions and... I don't know. But it's like still a little bit off. That's true. It's creepy. Well I think for the movie sake you need to know... Do you think we're ever going to get to a point where they're like that though? Where you can't even tell a difference? Of course. 100%. That'll be... That's the goal. That's exactly what they're going to do with it. What's going to really be trippy is... I was watching this... There's a series on that National Geographic called Year Million. Mm-hmm. So have you seen it? I've been watching it. Oh! It's so awesome. So Katrina and I just watched a Nat Geo. This was last... Night before last I was just in a mood for this. It's been a while since I've watched just like a Netflix series that was just like Nature. It's been probably a good couple of years since I'd done that and totally smoked one and then watched one of these. And let me tell you... Nature. I went down the rabbit hole for like four hours. So fascinating. Let me tell you what was... Four hours? Yeah. Let me tell you what was so fascinating about why I got sucked into it was I hadn't watched in a few years and I hadn't seen the evolution of the fucking cameras. Oh the clarity. Oh yeah. They were... Insane. Insane to watch. They had... Did you see Planet Earth? Yeah. Yes. They had... They had Prane Menace. Like you could see his teeth and you could see the way he grabbed and... They did this whole on a spider that which you could see the him shooting the spider shooting the web at. Right over the butt. Across 50 yards of river and creating a web. It was... I was so fascinated by it at the detail of the camera and the cameras that we have that we could see the tiny hairs on a spider the size of a quarter and watching him shoot out the web. For stoners. That's like magic. Oh it was... Yeah I mean... So I didn't... I won. I didn't know how that worked. And you know that this is like... It boggles scientists. They can't figure this out. That this spider, the size of a quarter spits out a web that shoots 50 yards across the river creates a ginormous like 20 foot web and trap all in the size of this and can reproduce that 20 minutes later. Like that just doesn't... It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense how that something that small can get that much silk spit out. And I didn't realize like... So they show the... I mean you must get constipated. Yeah. They show this clip, right? So this is how the spider hunts, right? He shoots this web across this river and then he goes over and he builds this huge web and trap. And so it shows its first attempt. It shoots it across and then it starts cruising over and another spider hijacks his fucking web. And so he goes bolting after the other spider and right before the spider cuts the line and then the two spiders go swinging back to the opposite directions. He reels in all of his silk back in and shoots it out again and does... To watch that in like high def and it was just insane to me. I'm in, dude. I'm in. You know what blows me in even more than that is the guy recording this all. Yeah. Like the patients like... I'm gonna go find a fucking spider. How did they catch capture like some of these moments? It must have took so... Out of it they have to like have the mount, right? And then they monitor it like remotely. Well there's... I was reading about this one National Geographic photographer who was trying to capture like this bird like being born or whatever and it took him like three months to catch this one... Oh it took like... Five minute shot. Yeah. Almost a year from the catch the mating habits of this one rare bird you know in the jungle and he was like talking about the frustration behind it because like he almost had it like so many times and then like you know something would come and interrupt the shot but man yeah that would be just... I just feel like it's not worth it. Yeah. You know what I mean? You don't know like you just watch it all happen within like you know 10 seconds of the show and you don't appreciate the fact that... And that's what I was tripping out on like Katrina kept making fun of me. She's like you're watching this nature show with me and you keep talking about the camera and how like that shot and I'm like well a guy who's in like media social and we use all... Well I nerd out on movies because of the same fact of how they set up all the scenes and they set up all these shots like the amount of detail like some of these mega blockbuster movies like they get and the amount of detail on that level it's so insane like we just we under appreciate it because it's just we consume it. Oh right because it was a 15 second clip right so for you you consumed in 15 seconds you're already on to the next part of the scene but it was like wait a second do if you dissect how long it probably took just to get that 15 second clip and then to get it that close that detail I was like oh my god this is crazy I didn't even know that we came that far you ever want to really we'd makes you appreciate that little thing it does help if you ever really want to appreciate like today's cinema you know cinematic magic cinematic adventure just watch in magic just watch a movie that you thought was awesome when you were a kid watch it as an adult oh no yeah like I was showing my kid what movie we're watching like God what was that never ending story oh man asked yeah and my son's is like my kids are both like oh those are horrible special of them yeah it doesn't look real like shut up and watch it come on man it's true it's like I'll watch you for me I watched Jurassic Park remember when it first came out the CGI was like whoa now I watch them like all the ripples in the puddles like now what are you guys about this because I think that it's 4k and 1080 has gotten so crazy and the new TVs I've gotten that it almost actually takes away from the movie and what I mean by that is the the it's so clear like and I remember the first time I saw it in real life well what what it is is the Pirates of the Caribbean movie was the first movie that I had seen this on a one of the new LCD screens and it was 4k 1080 and we are watching on Blu-ray and I remember seeing the props I could tell that they were plastic and fake and I could see the makeup lines on the men because it was so clear it was so clear and so it had to change all the actors they've had to like add all these different techniques with the I bet right really yeah I had to it because I was like whoa this is too clear it's so clear that I don't I feel like it's fake but when it's you know a little blurry you feel like you get kind of brought you get beer goggles for movies wow blackheads that's what I felt like the first time I had glasses I'll never forget because I used to have kind of bad vision and I remember when I was a kid and I first got glasses and I put them on and I looked at people I'm like wow you guys all have bad skin yeah I didn't realize that you know I mean that everybody's skin looks so smooth look at all those ingrown hairs and all of a sudden like oh you guys have pimples and stuff this is weird yeah yeah so I wonder what's gonna happen with that as we as the TV keeps evolving and getting more clear more clear the only thing I really enjoy I enjoy it for sports because sports you want to feel like you couldn't you want it as real as possible but there's a side of us that when we watch a movie that's not real yeah you want the magic to still right out you want a little bit of the you want a little fake when you think about it like you don't want it to look so real that I can tell it they're on a stage he's wearing a mask right yeah you don't you know you don't want that because the camera shooting so clear so it would be interesting to talk to talk to somebody who is in in that world and some of the challenges that they had with this super clear yeah it's like and you see that in in directors how they how they deal with that because some will include like actual props and costumes and whereas others will just abandon that completely now and just use all green screen effects and like you know build up from that now here now trip off this now because the consumption from the average consumer is growing so rapidly on platforms like YouTube trip out over the how fast YouTube is evolving with the quality of video there because they used to be super amateur so you know most of them still are but little by little you're getting them people are getting better and spending more money on YouTube I bet you in 10 years YouTube's gonna be like fucking Hollywood man for sure YouTube channels gonna be like blow you away oh I think we're definitely going that way when I I was just told you guys just recently I shared when I was hanging out with my little nephew who's 10 and that and then I asked you actually drew the other day to who does all a lot of our video my single friends to really yeah over the like not over the weekend but like right before going into it seems like Friday night or something have my friends kind of come over and they were like pissed because like my TV it had everything but like YouTube and like we didn't even they didn't want to watch Netflix or nothing like that like dude I want to show this clip from this like oh you don't even fucking like YouTube like all I do is watch YouTube yeah they don't watch like anything on cable and no no one watches TV is like wow I'm younger generation like nobody watches TV anymore it's like there's more and I think what's neat about it then this all goes back to our whole you know libertarian free market mentality which is you know YouTube allows anybody to create their own channel and if it's good and it appeals to enough people it'll progress and very quickly yeah very ever I want I just search it and boom yeah I find it I find a guy convenient who is just like me and giving the information that I specifically want to learn and I and he I'll tune into him and that's all I need to listen to or her or whatever the case may be so it's pretty fascinating to watch the evolution of that and then it's really neat to see people be able to monetize and actually they don't need these big production companies you don't need all all this stuff which I feel like there was a lot of politics in right there was but part of the reason why you don't need is the equipment is just cheaper now like the equipment that we use to film some of our YouTube videos ten years ago a camera that we buy for a thousand dollars fifty fifty grand ten years ago easy that's I mean you know a big of a difference that even ten it's even less than that it's been cameras that cameras like that were just five years five years ago or less couldn't afford it would be impossible to do it no it's super fascinating to watch the evolution that and it makes you want like I mean I believe that basic TV and cable is going to be really dead dinosaur already oh it is it's like what I mean news you can get faster on Twitter and Facebook you know I'm saying you know what I know what's dying right now too is news mainstream yeah dying well do you notice what they do I was so force it on you with like Apple I was not blown away when I don't ever watch the news I cut the news not that long ago and I hadn't seen it in years and I know that like their stories their top stories are what's trending on Twitter or Facebook the reporting on the Internet yes they're reporting they're reporting on Internet so lazy it's like whoa like that's so nuts like that you're just in it's crazy cuz I don't know I mean I don't know that I'm sure they're being told to do that right I'm sure they have a boss who a producer that's going listen we got to talk about this because it's got a million views today obviously everybody's there yeah so everyone so this is the topic so we got to talk about it but they're there what they're doing is they're slowly repeating you have to review or talk about reporting on your competitor exactly who's killing you're actually at the one who's killing your business and who's gonna put you out of business you're having to talk about that's got to be painful you know in that industry so it's what's crazy about that irony is that news is the mainstream news is slowly dying we're getting our news from social media and in platforms like that and what's happening it's a good and bad it's good because we can share information very quickly everybody's a journalist as long as they have a phone so things get reported much faster the bad news is because of the way the algorithms work on social media they're designed to show you what you want to see so little by little you are getting put in a smaller and smaller box and only presented information that confirms your bias so if I'm into kind of conservative type stuff whereas before if I watched mainstream news it was kind of you know I get a lot of everything right I have to see different points of view and then it turned into Fox News and MSNBC and whatever where one became liberal one became conservative and so people started kind of getting into more boxes now with social media it's even happening even more to where the algorithm will understand it and will only show you articles and stuff that are going to confirm your bias so you never get presented information that counters your opinion or your beliefs that we just lock you in it could be now it's very dangerous it's very dangerous because it's already seeing it where people are so like you know a hard core with their beliefs and the other side is so evil that they didn't even they didn't want to listen to the other side and so that's why I always tell everybody go seek it out and learn worst case scenario you learn how to strengthen your own argument even better otherwise if you rely on social media like I noticed that like I'll flip through and it's all shit that I want to read that I that I like to hear right you know I mean I'm like no I gotta find shit I don't like to hear and see what they're saying so I can at least strengthen takes a lot to do that that's it takes a lot of courage to do that is to say hey I like to debate this side of this or I this is my point of view and so I'll just continue to confirm that by diving into more information versus okay I know I believe this already but let's dive into stuff that people totally disagree with this and see what they have you have to do it yourself like you know when I was really learning about fasting and the health benefits all I was reading about was fasting and the health benefits and I remember thinking like wait a minute like it can't be all good there's gotta be times when it's not good right obviously so I actually googled why fasting is unhealthy and I would type in titles that I knew would bring up articles with differing points of view right and then I was able to learn more just much more broadly written by like supplement companies anything anything like why like barbell squats best exercise for your lower body why don't you Google why barbell squats are bad for your knees or why they're bad for back you may couldn't disagree because I did I still disagree with them but it strengthened my argument because some of these people actually make really compelling arguments for their points of view and I have to go and research and figure out for myself that they're either full of shit or sometimes they're right that's a great example you just gave right there is you know barbell squats are bad for your knees like Google that like I could so I could argue that on either way I could argue that you should be able to that's the point yeah if you're if you're reinforcing bad recruitment patterns sure right yeah that's my point like you should be able to do that like look up the other side because you ain't gonna ain't gonna come to you naturally I promise you all you're gonna get end up seeing is shit you want to hear and you end up getting living in your protected bubble all the time and all the sudden you're you know everybody else is stupid because you're so right because I've read all this information that backs up my opinion yeah well yeah that's just the way that shit works so that's the one bad thing that I can see from it bird come on bird bird is the word the biased bird step right up all you bearded man and all you bearded ladies this quads brought to you by big top beer company whose own natural beard oil products not only make your beard smell amazing but feel amazing too their organic essential oil blends transport you to manly places like the mountains the desert the sea and beyond all while encouraging a lot of beer of nuzzling the boom buy it for yourself or as a gift for that special bearded someone at bigtopbeard company dot com enter the discount code mine pump for 33% off at check out our first question is from Scott finding fitness what is everyone's opinion on herbal detoxing so this question was kind of directed towards me because I talked about your parasite process the parasite cleanse that I did now to be clear this doesn't mean I had a parasite I did it because the herbs and and ingredients that are in parasite cleanses which are have been historically shown to kill parasites are also what are called classic antimicrobials and after we had Dr. Rusio on the show he kind of blew me away a little bit when it came to gut health and we were having a conversation off-air and I told him that sometimes the best that my gut ever is is if I'm sick and I take an antibiotic and what I do when I take an antibiotic is I also take a probiotic so if like if I have to take a moxicillin let's say 8 a.m. at you know 10 a.m. I'll take my probiotic because I'm trying to keep myself from getting to you know killing everything off too much and what happens after two or three days of this is I have like amazing gut health and then that lasts for like two or three weeks after I'm done with antibiotics and they start to slowly go back to where I was before and I it didn't make sense to me you know because I know antibiotics aren't good for you right they're not good for your gut they kill everything so I asked him about that and he said well some people what he's finding is they need to what he called trim the bushes trim the hedges yeah trim the hedges or trim the bushes where you just have a tendency to just to have overgrowth of bacteria and maybe a little bit in a small intestine and all these other things happening and sometimes for these people and I may be one of them it's a good idea to kind of bring everything down a little bit and it feels better even if it's beneficial bacteria you may have overgrowth it just bring everything kind of down a little bit so I that's the other that's the main reason why I did the quote-unquote parasite cleanse I didn't have I didn't think I had parasites but nonetheless since I've been doing it I've been feeling absolutely I mean blown away by how amazing I feel and I don't mean necessarily just performance because that is happening I am feeling better with performance like strong or more energy but I'm also noticing less anxiety better sleep my mood is better my mind is clear you know better of course better gut health like all these different things and it's kind of tripping me out so I did a little bit more research now what you wouldn't consider this an herbal detox though right I mean I was just gonna say parasite cleanse is different than a herbal detox well so I was just gonna say the word specific thing in mind well the word detox is pretty misleading because it alludes to the fact that you have so you're toxic and there's toxins in you and you need to eliminate reminds me of when I forget what it is but they test like the bottom of your feet and then they say that you have like toxic like heavy metals materials in the bottom of your feet and then they've just cleansed you of that you guys know I'm talking about yeah there's something you soak your fucking stupid yeah and it draws out the toxins three feet it's all bad science so you can have toxins and when you do you'll know when you go to the doctor and there's specific ways to remove those toxins people have referred to fasting as detoxing so the way they're using it doesn't necessarily mean detoxing I think the way they're using it is like reset I don't know I mean I like to use the word reset a little bit better but even that is kind of it's like you're starting over so I don't know what the right word we would be to use well I want this is where I'm why I'm not a fan calibrating is when you look at the studies when you compare in herbal detox whether it be a single day a seven day a 14 day or whatever like that and you put it up against like a three day fast the markers and the things that change in your body are almost identical you get almost exactly the same benefits just from restraining from food from a long period of time that you do from following some crazy herbal drink protocol that's the thing is most of these are like have the condition that you have to have XYZ to go along with this this fast which is basically you're just doing a fast yes so like I just as me being the skeptic you know immediately I'm me well why do you need this specific tea in all this you know with within the process and you're trying to tell me that you're detoxifying the environment I don't know if I believe no no doubt fasting is by itself by far the most effective thing you can do and it's free if you're trying exactly hella cheap if you're trying to reset you know lower inflammation reset gut health you know balance you know just it's just by itself it's one of the best things to do now that being said we need purified water that being said herbs are like medicines that's why they call it herbal medicine now they're not acutely as powerful as Western medicine some of them are but most of them aren't they have kind of balancing you know I hate to use these terms again but they have these balancing effects so there's specific herbs that you use for specific things and they a lot of them are proven to work and I would recommend going to a functional medicine doctor or a nature path or an herbalist to figure out what those things are for you but that be that all being said this process that I'm going through really sparked my interest and so I've done more research and I love looking at old cultures and especially healthy old cultures and what they've done for you know for rituals for long periods of time because many of these rituals are put in these cultures because they have you know long-term health benefits for example you know praying before you eat or just respecting your food well you're obviously more likely to not overeat and you're more likely to eat more consciously when you do that so I can see how that's a staple in many cultures or walking going for a walk after you eat will study show that that helps with digestion it's good for you but lots of cultures do it something else lots of cultures do is they do fasting and a lot of them do these their own herbal type of protocols there's certain cultures for example that will go through periods of time where they eat these these pastes made out of pumpkin seeds I was just reading about this the other day and the reason why they do this is they do it to treat gut issues and for many times is to treat parasites now pumpkin seeds this is a fact you look this up there's an ingredient or there's a compound in pumpkin seeds that actually paralyzes certain parasites like tapeworms and so when tapeworms latch on to your to your gut lining or to your your intestines and you you know you pass your your your poop or whatever they latch on and they stick around they don't leave well when you paralyze them with pumpkin seeds they get paralyzed they let go and then you poop them out and so this is why some cultures will do this warm wood is another one and so it's really fascinating to see how all these cultures have implemented some of these you know quote-unquote herbal detoxes or methods of eating you know throughout the season to rid their body of you know what they would call toxins but it's probably from parasites or bacterial overgrowth and all those things as you can imagine like humans were probably absolutely riddled with parasites yeah throughout just water alone I mean yeah you just are right and they're kind of symbiotic they live with our bodies and just like bacteria and but humans did certain things to kind of like dogs will this you ever notice like dog when they're feeling sick look we eat grass and do certain things force in the puke yeah and you know so humans have done this for a long time as well so my opinion on herbal detoxing is if it's for a specific reason and you've gone and seen a professional they can be pretty they can be pretty effective and herbs can be a very effective treatments for chronic disease alongside in a very very by the way a very good herbalist or Nate or naturopath is unlikely to just give you herbs there it's never just a like a Western medicine protocols protocol where they're like okay take this three times a day and then you're fine what they'll typically do is they'll say don't eat this don't eat that eat this move this way oh and take you know these herbs so that's kind of that holistic approach so well that's why I said I used to tell people that like when most of these herbal detoxing things they come with like a whole like so yeah protocol and it's like when you really dive in the protocol and you look at the the fasting and the routine the workout routine and the amount of water they're having like that's where the real benefits coming from is the restriction of all the fucking extra calories the movement they're asking you to do and the extra fluid that you probably weren't consuming before like that right there is the big bang for your buck now even though I'm knocking it this is something that I don't think is gonna hurt a lot of people and if you have the money to throw away and it's not a big deal like and you're like okay I just would rather follow something or I feel like you know if I'm opening a box and making a tea every you know three hours that this makes me feel like I could all be consistent with it then I guess by all means right it's not and I think we'd all agree like an herbal tea detox in herbal detox and I keep saying like go see someone who knows what they're doing with this stuff because if you go and search it online you're gonna find a bunch of bologna but I mean I'll give you an example you know if you have elevated liver enzymes for example by the way before if don't don't take my advice because I'm not an herbalist I'm just talking about reporting on what I've actually read and seen in some countries in some Western developed Western nations like like Germany for example Germany has a division of their health care and I don't know if they still have it but they did where they would study herbs and plants and that was a first line of recommendation so for patient came in with certain problems if it wasn't too bad then the doctor would recommend diet and herbal protocol but like if you example if you had like elevated liver enzymes they would recommend certain dietary changes and if that didn't help enough then they would recommend something like milk thistle which milk thistle's got liver detoxifying properties and this is confirmed by lots of study prostate enlargement if you have issues with your prostate you could go to your doctor and take you know finasteride which blocks the conversion of testosterone a DHT which has its own side effects and can be effective we can cause lots of problems or you can take something like sol palmetto which has been shown in minor cases to reduce the inflammation of the prostate and in doing so with that with minimal or no side effects I mean that's what I really like about plants is when you take a plant you tend to you have an active ingredient but you have all these other things in the plant that tend to keep it balanced so you don't get this extreme effect you know many times not always but many times quick interruption by our sponsors you guys lots of people been asking us how they can support the mind pump mafia family our first one is our Chimera coffee that we love you guys go to Chimera coffee dot com that's Chimera with a cave or 10% off don't forget mine puppet to check out we also have our big top beard company dot com for 33% off also mine pump 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nervous about those training sessions so I would go into that session very prepared like okay I'm gonna make sure I put together a really good program I'm gonna make sure that I can explain myself very well like why I have them doing this and why I have them eating this way so as much as it was a fear I also in embrace that and and I know that that was a big factor in me evolving as a trainer but I would think that has to be one of the most nerve-wracking things that I remember experiencing as a as an early trainer when I first started was oh shit I've got you know I'm 22 years old I just really started learning all this stuff I'm barely getting confident in building my programming myself and nutrition and here I've got this you know 45 50 something year-old PhD that I have to train tomorrow and I'm like oh fuck this is very scary have one that like intimidating question do you or counter to you while you were training them oh yeah no definitely I mean I had many a times when early early years that I got straightened out saying saying some bullshit that wasn't right I wish I could give you an exact story I don't know but I know that I know for sure there was time but once again I think that's what where you like make up a pro word on accident yeah well you know me I've been anterior rotation of the you know interior whatever and they're like what are you talking about yeah well I think it only happened maybe at once or twice and I learned my lesson to to not do that anymore and I was better off and this is where I think I talked about this on an episode a long time ago that when I started to get these really brilliant minds instead of me going into it and like trying really hard and trying to sound smarter and do all this shit I was like you know what why am I gonna try and pretend like I know more than this motherfucker I'm about to help right now he hired me he needs my help somewhere I'm gonna spend more time asking him questions like what can I do for you what what were you what are you looking for from me and then asking him stuff about about the body myself to instead of trying to sound smarter than what I really was I spent more time asking this brilliant mind in front of me questions that I wanted to know that he probably knew and then I would just directly ask him hey what is it I could do for you or what do you want from me you know to help you and so I think once I switched those gears instead of trying to sound a certain way I did a lot better with it I can identify with that a little bit too just not the what what you don't know you know and like so if somebody like brings something up and you know you don't really have that much of a clue I know one specific example for me was I mean I didn't do a lot of machine-based training you know going through my sports career and like training with the team like I was very versed with barbell training and plyometrics and you know all that kind of stuff in and then I got into like more of the gym environment the commercial gym environment and then you know machines were the thing and so people kind of expected like these certain machines and I remember one time I took this poor lady over to this machine because she really wanted to try it out and I was like all right yes do it I had her like facing the wrong way some guy came up and he's like bro and like he was a total bro and he was like like teaching her like right in front of me like punking me oh no oh my god I got so insecure after that like that do you remember the machine what it was I don't I don't really remember well it was like a preacher and no in my no no no it was good of all backwards no what was it it was like a hack squat machine and I had her facing like the other way you know you're right that's the way to do it but I like to do it this way I know I'd like now I would do that I'm saying back then I was so insecure already you know like trying to like provide the best service and like I knew everything like I stuck in my wheelhouse yeah I mean and and so once I started to kind of like broaden you know my workouts now you know it's funny that that didn't fly back then but nowadays people do shit all this stupid shit that I see in the gym now I'm like oh they're being creative totally totally now it's like I got I got schooled oh look they're using the hip the leg extension for hip you know this you know what I'm glad this came up because we should dress this I saw this on the forum did you see this thread on the forum this is actually a really popular thread somebody you somebody posted somebody doing the leg pushdowns on the dip machine that the way this is the gravity and walk I have a couple things I want to say one I don't like when we're you know punking somebody that's that's doing some of that like I don't I don't want to make fun of a particular exactly a particular person where I where I would take a photo of them and single them out for doing a stupid exercise like that but I do like to address how stupid an exercise like that is so you get educated exactly so I what I was not a fan of was the thread a picture of somebody doing it and then it turned into this like you know half the people are defending the person it's like you know oh don't make fun of them for doing that the other half the people are like no that's really stupid so I want to just put that out there that one I'm not a fan of us ever you know pointing something out like that on at a single person or making fun of them because for all you know they got it from somebody who they they think is really smart or is really reputable in the fitness industry and told them to do that I don't know any better and they don't know any better right so I'm more I'm more going after the people that influencer yes if you're an influence influencer and you're teaching a move like that it's ridiculous and the irony of it is most girls are doing it to build a butt and if you look if you understand biomechanics the exercise is way more hip flexor and quad dominant than it is even glute dominant so to do it to isolate the glutes is already a silly a silly move it's it's more about a million exercises that are more effective yes then using a machine that that's not even when it's exactly you're preoccupying somebody else's like use by doing why don't you just step up on something and why push a platform down that's designed to support your weight when you do pull-ups and dips why don't you just step up on and it would be far more beneficial to do that way more beneficial step up will have way more carryover for the glutes way more functional carryover burn more calories build more muscle so if you if you're out there and you're doing that silly move stop doing it it is not that benefit you're wasting your time if you're doing that for 1015 minutes you could be spending 10 to 15 minutes doing a ton of other movements that would be far more beneficial way more for than the booty so way more effective that you know the original question about fear so you know it's funny maybe because I was so young so I was 18 when I first became a personal trainer and I was so passionate about working out especially in gyms I was in gyms since I was maybe 15 that I you know I do I had zero fear of the entire process to the point where even before I got certified I got clients to wait for me to get certified so I'd sign them up and I told them I'll be certified and you know in two weeks and then they waited for me so the whole process I had no fear but I do remember one particular moment that was probably the first time I fucked up with a client and it's because I got cocky like I was like I said I went in I was super confident loved it so I had zero absolutely zero anxiety and fear over and I trained people I got real successful real quick probably my second month as a trainer there was one lady I'll never forget her name was Wendy if you're listening Wendy I'm sorry doing well you have a great burger so I trained her and she was a school teacher that's what came to mind when Wendy came out yeah when you get directions from somebody and they give you like fast food markers like okay go down and you'll see McDonald's is gonna be on your ride and then you go a little bit further from there and then you'll see KFC on the left and then you're gonna circle back around flip a U-turn right over my Taco Bell and it's like the overpass well so she so this wasn't the Wendy but she was a client of mine Wendy and I got cocky and so I'd have her come in and warm up for like five to ten minutes on cardio and then I'd go grab her and then we'd go work out well I was cocky right I'm like the top trainer in the gym already fucking doing all whatever and I lost track of time I lost track of time so she was on there for like 15 minutes warming up so she walks she gets off the cardio and I'm bullshitting with another trainer she walks over to me and she gives me this dirty look and I'm like I walk over to her she goes I'm not paying you to hang around so I could do cardio and she walks into the weight area so I walk after her to trainer and it was like holy fuck like I totally fucked up and I remember from that moment on I was very very like I paid very close attention to my client's time and I really respected them but it because I was new when I was a kid and I got cocky and then she checked me so hard yeah like I felt like the biggest idiot like I felt like an asshole like what am I doing why did I leave her out there that was a huge learning experience I bet that was a major that's good she checked you yeah or they don't say anything they just don't re-sign with you yeah that was a major pet peeve of mine with trainers like I was like absolutely not absolutely not are you allowed to stand next to your client where they fucking do 10 to 15 minutes of warming up that's like you don't need lazy they do not need to be paying you for 15 minutes of elliptical you know and some of them would push that you know 20 30 minutes and then have them run laps in the gym you know in between sets well I think I I think I shared that story with you guys when I was running boot camps I had trainers working for me and I remember you know I dropped in one time you know I'd cruise in every once in a while drop in on my camps obviously to see how my trainers are running camps and one of the trainers that was running one of these camps that I had built up I showed up and he's like standing out there on the basketball court by himself and I'm like where the fuck are all our clients he's like oh they're on a run like what do you mean they're on a run I'm checking my face is like oh I sent him to any tells me with a marker and I'm like that's like fucking three miles dude out there like are you kidding me like you sent him on a six mile run for like they're not gonna be back for 40 minutes journey and you just chill back we'll do like you I don't know five pushups you chill over here while they go run for 45 minutes and you get what 15 minutes of stretching at the end and they're done with their are you fucking kidding me like never again are you allowed to do today's workout go run yeah go here and then come back like that was so bad get lost some trainers man I tell you what it's just like anything else though right you get comfortable in a job you start cutting corners and stuff so I guess journey to jacked is it possible to listen to music and listen to your body in the gym I heard people say it destroys the connection with your body and I have never heard you guys discuss this this is funny this is actually a very good question no it is no it's a good question and it's but it's funny to think that somebody would think that it would destroy a connection well think about it this way there are there different types of music that you listen to you guys listen to depending on the type of exercise and activity yeah I'll change it around based off of course if I need to really get that CNS like charged exactly like if you're gonna lift super heavy and go nuts you're probably gonna listen it's like more like heavy metal and something like right if you're gonna go do stretching or warming up or hiking or it even chill you might listen to more chill stuff so this is actually a very very good question and I could see how cuz I've done this that's a no-brainer let me tell you guys a story so when I when I had my gym that I owned I would work out those great cuz I work out there on my own and something in the middle of the day sometimes it would be no client so I turned lights off and I do these crazy workouts well at this particular point I think I might have been training for a jujitsu tournament so I was doing like these interval type training so I'd lift heavy and then I do these intervals and I kind of designed this this program to get me ready for this tournament well I was playing the soundtrack to Rocky for which I mean we literally could have said that you should ask that exactly which one do you say and so Rocky for so this is why this is funny so I put Rocky for on and whenever I had the Rocky for soundtrack especially the montage music hell yeah I like I just I can picture myself like I'm fighting the Russian right so I'm going crazy and I hurt myself and the reason why this is funny is because that is the third time I hurt myself listening to because you have way too much because it literally puts you in the moment and I didn't the way I explained it before was the music got me so pumped that I pushed myself too hard but now that I'm reading the question what it really did was it made me ignore my body I didn't disconnect it from my body because I'm so fucking driven by this music that I'm so connected to okay that I pushed past where I should have and I hurt myself now you mentioned that like there's times I have done that where I'm like getting really into like like a song that's just driving me to fucking press more weight and and yeah I've hurt my shoulder before well for me man being in the gym music playing in my ear like this is why to I remember when I first started using the big headphones and people were making over here people were making a big difference yeah I remember doing that early on DJs in the gym now and everybody was making fun of me to do and do it for doing that and I was like if and Katrina still trips out to this day because she's like you didn't see that hot girl or you didn't see them like when I'm in the gym like I am that's like church for me man and I am in such a flow state and music is a very big part of that for me I can just the big headphones drowns out any noise around me so I don't hear the clanging away so I don't hear people laughing and joking about their weekend stuff I literally see what's in front of me and what I'm focusing on currently and I hear this this tune in my in my head and it's just it helps me dive so deep into being connected with my body it is the furthest thing from being distracted and if anything like I've been heard or had issues from not having music and hearing other people talking or looking at something and being distracted from all the other things that are going around in the gym and actually tuning out everything but the music the melody in my in my ears is so much easier for me to actually stay connected and stay focused so but you're pretty careful with what music you pick depending on what you're going to do or what kind of tempo or pace yes and no I think there's pretty much let me ask you this you know it'd be cool like in my one of my clients actually suggested this like and I people have asked us before like what our playlists are and all that we could easily put together like a Spotify collective kind of list for these like for your you know your heavier like more intensified days and then yeah restorative days and like mobility your priming part like I bet you could come up with some cool you know soundtracks so what I like to do when I if when I'm priming or you know warming up stretching whatever as I like to listen to brain FM focus no brainer brain FM focus for that part of my workout is amazing and it does make me connect more I don't like listening to it as much as I like listening to heavy shit when I'm lifting heavy and it's funny because I'll even wait for the right moment of a song to start a set like I'll get under the bar and I'm waiting for frickin rage against the machine I'm ready for that shit to hit the right moment and then I unrack and I go yeah and lift that weight or there's certain types of hip hop that I'll listen to like Tupac when I want to do more of a slow paced resistance training type workout where I'm doing my sets and I'm pacing myself and I'm trying to get like a good pump or whatever then I'll listen to that so it's funny when when you first read this question Justin I was like that's a silly question I thought about I'm like no wait a minute that's a brilliant question no no I know it seems silly at first I think brain FM to me is for the the priming brain FM for priming or yoga and because it has a great meditation section too so those two I think are for that or if I'm lifting heavy like you said I can listen to almost anything that will amp me up so heavy metal even like if I'm in a like cruising through my workout I can listen to hip hop what what's music running I have a totally different playlist oh yeah definitely what music or song are you most likely to hurt yourself over like what what song like is the like you'll listen to and be like okay I'm gonna go break some shit now like I know you guys yesterday don't mean shit by Pantera yeah that was fucking fucking gets me probably killing in the name of for raging it's awesome good one yeah that's a great one what's the song god I can't believe I can't remember the name of it it's the rage against the machine song that was at the end of the matrix mm-hmm when Neo flies off and it's done in a bullet in your head but it is no no it's not blowing your head it's the Godzilla one then right is it freedom no no that those are all freedom that's like those are all so good but I can't remember it I'll have to come back to it next question there's on parade those are all good but there's that one song is that one song that makes me lose my shit but the answer the question is that you know it can destroy your connection it really is teach their own right I really feel like everybody is uniquely different I know some people that remember people get charged up by different yeah and I think if you wake up wake up wake up wake up that one right there I reserve yes yeah I feel like I feel like if it works for you then absolutely do it if you feel like the music is distracting you then either one probably change the music you're listening to or to like get rid of the music so I think everyone's different that's be from if you did have to lose weight fast how would you do it nice little trick question we put a disclaimer yes so here's a little disclaimer I'm gonna explain what I would do if I had to lose weight fast don't do this because it's not an effective long-term strategy and I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend anybody do this but the question is if I had to lose weight very fast how would I do it well I step one because I'm trying to lose weight on the scale I go low calorie and I go very very very very low carbohydrate like no carbohydrate my protein intake would be pretty high my fat intake would be moderate so wouldn't even be keto because my fat wouldn't be super high I wouldn't feel very good but I'd lose lots of weight lots of water weight as well very very quickly so in a week in a week's period of time I would see the scale go down quickly the second thing I would do is I would do cardio several times a day so I do cardio in the morning I'm already grossed out because somebody's like writing this down I know and that's what I would do like it would work very very quickly within a two-week period I would also rebound very quickly after stopping that yeah and I probably damaged my metabolic system a little bit as well just know what you do well I mean I I would start by like abusing the whole fasting part of it fast for a week fast for like a couple days and and then like right out of that I would start charging obviously low carbohydrate and just like Sal's kind of describing but you know like for me it's high intensity cardio that really like triggers that response to start shedding the weight so you know for me that was my go-to if I was like I gotta get I gotta lose weight like you know really fat you know that was kind of like a go-to and then we got a lot smarter I for me this is actually a really easy question because getting ready for a show requires that I have this ability to turn turn up a notch or be able to like get my body ready at a specific time you know so I would be very mathematical about this and we'll use current numbers and where I'm at right now and how I would do it differently from what I'm doing right now so right now if you're watching my Instagram and my Insta story you can watch the slow correct process to doing this but if I knew like okay I have to do it as fast as I can as fast as I can would change based off of what you told me so if you said Adam as fast you can for two weeks as fast you can for four weeks as fast you can for six weeks the answer would be different for each of those and this is why if you were to take an approach that was six weeks long and you said as fast as you possibly could and I was right out the gates restricted to 1500 calories and did cardio twice a day that would be great for the first week or two and I'd see some great change but then the last four weeks my body would slow up like crazy and I'd see very very small change so I would break down off of how many weeks that I have to be ready by in order off of that so an example of where I'm at right now 3500 calories to 3800 is about my maintenance right now so what I would do if this was like two to four weeks each day I would slightly restrict so I'd probably take away about 200 calories I would slightly increase my volume in the training room so I would probably add a couple sets to all my a set to every exercise or a couple sets in the total amount of exercises in that workout and I would slowly increase either steps or cardio every single day so just a little bit so let's say day one is whatever it is what it is then day two I come in I do 10 more minutes of cardio I do 100 less calories that day I do two more sets of exercises and each day I add on that just a little bit all the way up into whatever my day is that I'm trying to be ready for that way and I make sure that I leave room for that like so if it's over the course of six weeks I need to know that okay you're not gonna end up with five hours of cardio exactly and I'm not gonna end up at zero calories right so I can't I don't want to go from a guy who eats for that martyr than the way I was gonna do it well I so I'm like I'll just beat the shit out of myself you know this is a very little everything it takes very realistic thing for me to have to be able to do when you're getting ready for a state this is what I loved about competing was this this was being able to be strategic about okay Adam you have to get on stage in 10 weeks and you're currently 15% body fat yeah what does that look like and so and this is kind of like what I think is wrong with a lot of the competitors out there is they hire these coaches and these coaches just like restrict them on calories and blast them on cardio and blast them on high volume training right out the gates all the way till then and they do get in good shape but what ends up happening is they plateau way earlier than they should because they came they threw everything at the in the kitchen sink at their body right out the gates and that's not what you want to do what you want to do is just you want to slowly add volume you want to slowly restrict calories you want to slowly add cardio time and that way each time your body is having to adapt to a new amount of volume a new amount of cardio and then you won't plateau you'll just see a little bit of change every single day all the way till then so yeah I mean and you know that all being said we I mean doing it slowly is effective more effective for your body on a physiological level but it's also more effective mentally and you're less likely to stick to something that is a dramatic drastic change than you are to something that is a small subtle change well I didn't see any of that in the question so you guys you know it was just like yeah how would you lose weight quickly I mean if we're gonna put any kind of rationale behind it it would be a totally different answer yeah I just want to say what I'm saying because I want to make sure because what's good it's good here's what's gonna happen Doug's gonna title this it's gonna say lose weight fast people are gonna click on it to learn how to lose weight yep as fast as possible and so now we have to redirect the right information and doing anything trying to do anything crash course is the worst long-term strategy of all time you will simply you will not do well long-term and in fact you may actually cause yourself more harm to where when you gain the weight back it becomes even harder to lose it the second or third time or whatever yeah if you're watching the process that I'm going through right now you will see me do this in a very healthy balanced way and that is the goal is for me to reduce body fat as fast as I possibly can but in a smart strategic way that's sustainable so that when I get there I can hold that air that that weight or weight that body fat percentage for as long as I as I want to versus you know can I get you know in faster shape in two weeks than I did going the other way so I think that the big mistake that a lot of people make and I just like I said I see this in competing all the time is this all at once that is not a smart strategy the body is just it just doesn't work very well it's very very smart and it figures out what you're trying to do to it really got a really small window and it gets very efficient really quick and this is where most people just say fuck it because they go like man I am pounding the way you'll see great results you know right out of the gates with this like high intensity mentality but yeah you just it'll burn out and your body will adapt to that now you're like you're in a whole new set of problems excellent 30 days of coaching is available for free at mind pump media comm also on YouTube mind pump TV we post a new video every single day on exercise demos correctional movements there's some comedy stuff on there there's already tons of videos just go to YouTube and just search mind pump TV also if you 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