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This is Behind the bars TV posted this one salute appreciate you there's an experiment being conducted behind these locked gates I Not about first of all, I didn't even know you could slam prison doors. I thought they was like unslammable On any other wing in any other jail a prisoner swearing at an assistant governor would be facing disciplinary charges But how prisons a wing is testing a softly softly regime on some of the most dangerous and disruptive inmates sent from long-term Dispusts and jails know about this experiment. They might bully y'all. I Know this didn't work. They bullied y'all right into a cat a Militant type prison. I know this is not going to one anywhere So the colleague is not helping himself I was The special unit Volatile from the start had its biggest crisis when David McAllister serving 19 years for armed robbery and assaults escaped His breakout came in July. This film was made in a wing last June Right after The prisoners arrived from punishment blocks all over the country They've been in constant trouble and this is an attempt to break the pattern But why start with the most volatile inmates You start low learn from your mistakes and work your way into them At a time when prison resources are stretched the unit has cost nearly a million pounds and is heavily staffed Waste of money Danger men is crazy. This has got to be filmed in the 90s 80s 70s Patrick Mackay has come from the segregation block at Parkhurst. He served in five life sentences for manslaughter and robbery I have never Heard of anybody in the UK with that type of sentence five of them You can only live one life. How do you get five life sentence deserving probably? Just to tell you that Mackay's arrived safely No problems with the escort Seems to have gone. Okay, and his personal officers taken him for two of the unit now That gives us what ten inmates now on the on the roll although we've only got eight of them Because Sykes is still down the segregation unit completing his punishments Although he's gonna be coming up at the weekend. So that should take us back to nine Richards is still down there and Doesn't seem to be much prospective in coming back Who are the are all of these three prisoners or just like If anything, I think the staffs morale is better than mine Just now the Winston McCallister argument. I think he's gonna go on and on and on that could end in tears or it's It could resolve itself But they're kind of like two icebergs that aren't rushing to be melted. Do you know that city's joda-greek? Frank Winston is serving life for murder. He was here a week. Okay, and they shanghired him from me went to Manchester I was at Manchester lay down with him. Just like I'm not certain. I think I think I've had Albany yes, I was at Albany in 1970 1986 I think it was the Albany for sure This is the 90s. No, I wasn't there too long actually. I didn't particularly like this Not anymore live they're back on the keys Well, I got there just after the riots Why is this security guard watching him walk up the stairs the entire way and he got on them little shorts It's something about we something about home. We don't know we've been going for about six months now Yeah, what is like a little lemur monkey like what is dude just he did that quick to he's done this multiple times It's very much an experimental thing The proof of the pudding will be Come back in 12 months time and there's a number of inmates who are getting stuck in and making good progress We can put an argument to the prison department that this way of dealing with inmates is a good one a positive one Then probably before the units built If it doesn't work here, however With all the resources that we've got my staffing ratio that we've got I think it will well be back to the drawing board and the prison department might think it's not been with the investment It wasn't worth the investment And it is back to them drawing boards because I'd noticed didn't work Hardly I came from the box three onto the ring and of course it was mind-blowing. We're all this new Tea color TV videos and oh, you can you can order a video like the first night You seen the colors of the cartoon now. I want to keep the TV in I'm just gonna go smash Watching the ads. Oh, yeah, this is the ads of fortune of watching the ad I haven't seen any for three years and because of the amount of that has all got down blocking everything and When you see it's like hypnotize you that the colors and everything and it brings up the aggression And of course, you're sitting there. I you know, it's like a drunk junkie Withdrawing from these junk like you want to keep the TV in That's what they said how Cocoa melon does children Y'all know what Cocoa melon is the kids show that's that's exactly said that what they they was It was like a news article that said the colors and and and The way the TV show was set up Cocoa melon It was like a drug to kids It was like hypnotizing their mind like they just wanted they wanted it when they first when they think about it And they wanted and they wanted and they want and they won't stop until they cry until they get it I don't know if you ever heard about this Certain kids not all These people have been fighting the system for a long long time when they come here We don't fight back. We're trying to negotiate things through So we may have to give a little bit of ourselves away We say right so you don't want to clean, but will you do something else? Will you do this charity? Will you do that for for another cause or whatever? We'll do our therapy When they look for an argument, they won't find one where normally perhaps it would have been nicked in another establishment They don't get nicked in here But it's not just about that It's about the fact that we get them to explain their behavior away. We talk them through it Essentially they treat them like children This is like a form of parenting Attitudes may stay the same but as far as possible we try and change their behavior to something that's more acceptable At the end of the day they're going to have to go back to a dispersal On normal occasion and survive there This is the first time in five years when I've come through the prison to find it to talk to an old man This sort of talking, I mean in the dispersals it's not heard of mate Well I remember you once said to me before that you know two or three years ago there was no way that you would ever respond to me Are any other officer? You had a complete hatred for prison staff That might get better, the things that they do in the prison stuff for people Can you just give us a few instances outland? This would probably work for a few prisoners but like some of them is God's probably so much PTSD towards guards and the prison life this is not going to help Exactly it is that upsets you so much Well when you've been in a body belt, when you strip something in a body belt you put them in a strip cell And then they can throw it back as a cold war over you and kick you and beat you And do things like that, which is happening to me, which does happen, it's still happening Well in all the time that I've been in the job I've never ever seen mistreatment But you know it has gone on That's good camp officer Well I've been told it's gone on Yeah You are lying But you know I can honestly say that I've never ever seen a prisoner mistreated and I wouldn't Bro come on Or ill treated and I wouldn't allow it for that matter I'm saying Because it makes us unprofessional I hope that lie made you feel better because that was a lie Because I took over as your personal officer well two months ago now And we haven't really had that much contact through one reason or another And if it's the truth then you've just turned away when it started to happen And then you'd be like okay I saw if my conscience I didn't see it I've turned away before it happened I walked away I didn't really know what your form was, what your claim to fame was Just give me a brief outline of what led you to pick up your sentence in the first place Because I know you started off with nine months I was doing nine months for a charge as I was a host concerned But I wasn't guilty It was just a normal fight that the other guys started so I wasn't intent on doing it So I broke out, broke out a marriage And when I'm out I've done robberies, arm robberies and all that But it's as bad as the crimes I do do I don't affect my crimes on women or children and things like that It's just, you know, men What were the arm robberies? A bank in the post of us And was there any females involved in that? It was females in the bank Wait, is this the dude that got the five length sentences? The guns weren't pointing at the females He didn't actually threaten the people I wouldn't point a gun at a female It was always at the men Yeah In the police And when I've got caught and they've just got us back in the prison It's been the... Because I've broke out a marriage prison That's where it's all started I did for the tech there They've got more of the hunt for me escaping Than what I've done So it's been fighting with them through like that You actually feel as if you'd have ever been threatened While you were pulling off these robberies That you could have actually pulled the trigger Whether it be with a man or a woman Oh I know Bro had nine months Think about this For whatever reason you had nine months You had nine months You was in a regular prison right You could probably do 60% You got Four months, five months to do Good behavior You had nine months Let's just leave it at nine months That's under 365 days I know it's prison But nevertheless You had nine months broke out Did all of these robberies to stay free You was living like a renegade And then went back to jail for Is this the five... You went back to jail for way longer You should just did the nine No, not for a woman You don't need a... That was stupid You used a gun at a woman Oh no, not for a woman You don't need a gun at a woman But for the man I would shoot to the legs I would shoot, but I wouldn't shoot to kill I would shoot to kill Unless it was a policeman Because they would be coming in to do this business But I would always go for a one shot And the legs or something like that To be honest Priority nine months I didn't know anything As far as I could see You didn't have any real form That we wouldn't need to worry ourselves about Even necessarily the police Am I wrong on that? Did you have more form? Why am I cat A? High risk Why am I the only cat A high risk in this prison? Cat A grey high risk Why am I the only one in this prison? Well I think possibly it's because of the The actual escape attempts And the successful escapes That you've, you know Managed in the past That's obvious You've got something like Freddie who can kill some people Murderers and real bad cases Yeah And they're alright Rich cat A Yes You are an escape artist You and they're like What's his name? You and they're like What's that Netflix special Man that they got with the black dude The escape artist You and they're like him You and they're like Sherlock You can get up out of here You are cat A high risk I don't know why that doesn't make sense to him Fred Lowe has been Out of institutions for only 44 days since he was 16 He's now 32 He's serving two life sentences And 20 years for grievous bodily harm Aggravated burglary And attempted robbery Is this the UK? Handing out these sentences? So the UK Must have been really really harsh in the 80's And 90's they handed out sentences And then got super soft all of a sudden Cause he didn't even hurt nobody Wait what did he say? Grievous bodily harm But he didn't even Catch an M or attempted M And got two life sentences He received a third life sentence For the manslaughter of an inmate At Gartree prison Well he was already locked up for that one Today for the first time He's chosen to talk about that killing To psychologist Tom Smith Because he says he's out of the office So he just wanted to try and be it So he gave him And a cold mender The cell says I've got a cup of tea for you Or one a word anyway So when he came in I said to him The What you've been saying You're going to do this and that Well I've got news for you pal You're not going to do it You're going to do it So I stabbed him 30 times in the throat Blacked his both His eyes Slipped his head and skull Once or twice Just generally jumped up and down on his face I was about 18 stone then Kicked him under the bed Okay The life sentence was This one was This is gruesome Wait That was manslaughter though Why do they charge you as manslaughter And give you life sentence as manslaughter Well Why did he take so much It was just He opened his mouth at the wrong time I was a lot of stirring up by other lads And I was annoyed What Had happened to me like you know Double life and nothing for nothing If you tell a man He's dangerous so many times So many times he believes it And eventually At that time You said so much like If I'm going to do a life sentence I might as well do it for killing somebody Oh yeah that was part of it There was a lot of things That was part of it I suppose it was He had the same thoughts that I might have Getting me on back in the system Saying well you gave me double life For nothing The way you are The way you want But the poor guy involved It was generally known at the time That He was an unfortunate case Who shouldn't have been in prison in the first place And everybody was saying What he shouldn't be here should be in a special hospital Why did you do that It was never really a threat I didn't take on him He just came across my Horizon He came across me Because of all the threats He had been attuned to me over the years I just see an inmate push a guard And then they get playful I get what they're doing here but come on What Do you feel at the time of the offence You were a psychopath but having psychopathic From the point of view of somebody Who is supposedly using that label To enjoy taking human life There was never ever Any suggestion in my mind That I was ever a psychopath If one was to use that criteria I could have perhaps understood Some people being rather uncertain As to whether or not I was But I certainly have never considered myself Psychopathic if one Of course you have that You sound like slightly It takes the criteria That one gets a special enjoyment Or to kill him No such enjoyment have I ever had I have never found any pleasure In having a mechallister And a lot of that surrounds Brenda I know that I've been trying to take the edge off it If Brenda sits in a TV room with anybody I'm not going to tell her not to do that As long as she's doing her teaching job It happened again today And I told you the other day And you've done nothing about it Hang on there's an argument Between you and mechallister That's been going on for some time now We've taken a lot the heat out of the situation You know well we had done as a unit And how well you had done As an individual to get back on the unit Without a blow up But that has not resolved I know that it's going to take us a bit longer To crack that one But it's a very complicated one As Eric said the fact that Brenda has agreed To go back teaching with you After the problems are in the year Is very big progress That's a really good step The rest of it we've got to work at Over nights I'm all I'm saying to you Why haven't you sat her down and said I don't think this is right You're a freight truck setter No No But why haven't you been done Eric Softly softly catch your monkey Sometimes you can't funt things out just like that Why can't this be funt Even though this is your done-off romance Because it's going to cause other ripples Of you and Edmund As long as the unit runs smooth You're not worried about how it affects me I just wanted to let it do me lay down at Manchester I had to lay on the block at Manchester right And I'm back now and every step I've got to be able to be self-perfect I've done everything you've asked me Sent I've been back Nothing wrong I've done nothing wrong When I come to you with a problem I don't get no soul That's not true I don't expect you to go on classes in Franklin State It's far too early It's far enough You know what the problem is I've got a lot of drama in this one The fact that I'm going to be working with him from now on Yeah, I know the problem is They got Teachers in there gossiping to other Inmates about other inmates And Inmates gossiping back Inmates grassing on teachers Which is cool whatever You know what I'm saying I'm not going to go on any classes with him For what he did me last time Oh, okay With him If I'm not in any classes with him You know damage That's for grassing See, he did grass I tell him lies Because I want to hurt him That's all I want to do I just want to hurt him And as soon as I touch him I get moved And it's me back in segregation Prison rules Buddy was up there Singing Chirping harmoniously With all the other birds He was tattle-tallin Given that satisfaction Exactly But I won't look under me But what's to say even if he didn't You didn't resolve the problem You still wouldn't lose this As in Being on the unit I'll face him when he comes I'll face him when he comes I wasn't going to be here anyway No, but you want to progress from him Brenda's going to turn it round She's starting to turn it round today Since your return to the unit She's been turning it round Okay Yeah, alright, we'll leave it like that Anyway, I've got this for over tea You've got a tea for over tea He broke this I never broke it I almost did Yeah, I know, because you showed me how to break it Don't forget, it's the middle of the hour I'm just going to finish it See you later, Frank Well, it's different here It's mind games It says it's mind games It's all nice, you get up in the morning You walk in downstairs There must be about 20 officers that say Good morning to you What response are you going to get How are you going to be today Well, that's not mind games It's a different approach to what people are being used to Bro is in there Prison risen He is trying to pull her Yes, of course it is She's just giggling It's all different It's all there It's been nice It's a bit hard when people have been all bad to you Was that What you found really hard when you first came here Yeah Oh Oh Hey Look how they talking to the guard Oh Open that guy Open the gate as he's opening the gate Belittling him It is what it is, but okay Okay, this didn't work I know it didn't, ain't no way It doesn't even look like a This just look like the YMCA Y'all got YMCA's out there It's just look like the YMCA It's not even jail right now There are often times When I had been frightened on the unit There was an incident once When an inmate came into the room with a knife Which had been broken He was basically just telling me about this knife That had been broken, but as he came into the room I didn't know what to expect If you could, or go down To the block and ask him I am the only full-time member of staff On the unit who's a female Which does have its drawbacks Inmates relate to me in different ways And obviously that can cause a lot of problems Especially if a member of the team Or one of the inmates has Difficulties relating to female staff Because in a lot of cases It might be the first time they've had the opportunity To talk to a woman in years D-Wing is slopping out This is the everyday scene In the rest of Hull Prison No lavatories in cells here And no association for some Over-crowded wing It houses 200 convicted and Unsentenced prisoners It's the first time there's probably In there were murderers, murderers In there were robbers Just a mix of potential chaos They're in their cells For up to 23 hours a day The contrast with A-Wing is startling It's led to resentment Against the special unit's 26 prison officers All volunteers There's a lot of stick going About in the rest of the prison Saying that we don't know how to say no To these people And yet the people who are saying it They don't want to come on working here And sometimes You think about it Is it worse then? The classic, they call it the Wendy House Once you've worked in here I think a lot of your attitudes You take out into a normal prison setting And then I think it makes you Into a better person A better officer as well Makes you better able to deal with Aggression Especially face-to-face aggression Face-to-face violence We're all in the worst of the worst We're all the worst of the worst But sir Whether we're changing, we'll have to wait and see It's dribbled down the side a bit But that doesn't matter, won't deter from The taste of it, won't deter from any of it Right? And you don't have to eat it But just to garnish it Little tiny piece of parsley Is that a shepherd's pie? This is the only unit at Hull Where prisoners cook for themselves One afternoon a week, the chaplain's wife Soo Jin gives the man a practical lesson And you don't like mustard, you won't taste it in the sauce I promise you, you won't actually taste that Mustard in the sauce, it just brings out the flavour If it's Coleman's mustard, you're going to taste it All right That's fine If you take all those, the rest of them Ain't this a three-time 87, three life sentences holding a knife in there like this? Yeah, definitely The officers here in the cons Have no hesitation in turning the back On me While I've got these knives And even told me track record it It's been rather heavy Been using knives on people See, now see, he's playing around He's getting too loose I've got a lot of trust that way This officer don't even got his shirt buttoned all the way up He in there loose too, lacking I tend to respect him The man caught an M Under the same circumstances Going to go grab scissors To trim his beard or whatever And y'all just letting him walk around freely with that knife That's... It's none of my business Buddy Arthur, it's good to see you It's good to see you One of A-wing's inmates is returning today From the segregation block Which one? The heavyweight box are serving Two and a half years for burglary and assault And three and a half years for assaulting staff at Hull On the day he went to the block A restraint team with helmets and shields Stood by in case of trouble But the special unit's officers Persuaded him to go quietly Now in an extraordinary move They've successfully appealed To the board of visitors over his punishment And his solitary confinement Has been reduced by eight days Paul Sykes was disciplined For abusing a prison works officer Who came into the special unit Holders, Paul Sykes, okay Later the charge was quashed As soon as I got here, I said You must keep I ain't never seen this Later the charge was quashed As soon as I got here, I said You must keep The screws out the main nick from coming in Well, I said that for a reasonary I know what vindictive Some of them are And I am in the nick now For belting the screws here And if they don't keep out that If they don't allow to wander in I've got no protection Are you with me? The screws coming out the main nick He's sitting there getting real nervous Listening to this story Paul Sykes is in me Three days later I'm nick for assault I said I'm not playing I'm not playing, go ahead with it Some kind of game it is I don't know what kind of game it is But I'm not playing I'm watching through the window And I see the board of visitors coming Two of them had done me parole application Did me parole application I knew the two I've strolled about the wing when it first opened Wondering about smiling benignly And saying like How lucky you are, what lucky chaps you are And I've given them all a coating Every one of them give them a coating That's what they're there for To see the system doesn't trample on them That's what they're in the job for I said every where you go The statutory rights has been obliterated And what does he say? The minister of prisons He said it's not our policy To let him make smell the rules Well I know the rules, yeah And they should know the rules And they should make sure that the system plays to them And I've given them all a coating These are the lots that's now coming in All now it's abusive and threatening language So I thought, yeah So I've written it out now and my statements I deny all allegations And the days have gone when a When a screw could Say you've said I ain't never seen this version of Paul Sykes before Fairly young Still kind of built Something had done something He's got to have some proof And the governor can't say Like I'd want to know where the pet will come Them days have gone all that carry on Yeah So I've written it all down And it's a straight forward by law Case dismissed Paul Sykes has hit me If it had happened at school, when it happens at school And they run to the teacher Friendsmiths hit me Have a look at them, no marks, no anything Just, well go and hit him back then That's what they say, yeah And that's what they should have said to him Pull your shirt down or your pants up One of the two And of all the nicks in the northern region They couldn't possibly get me farther away From Liverpool than here Right at the edge of the country John McGranigan says he's been beaten And labelled a sex offender He's serving And he's sitting in there with Paul Sykes Two life sentences for rape And 70 years for charges including Obesity and robbery He says he's innocent of all but one charge Of wounding and he's smashed up Other units in protest Justice, the lawyers organization has taken up If that RF charge is Even Wavering over your head, you did it His case with the home secretary Every You've been convicted, they got you buddy Life Yeah, it was rough back then In the 80s I like it For a certain some of them Especially for these type of charges You've got another one But as you can see for yourself You've read the documents Yeah, it seems to me They're going into great detail About the lack of forensic evidence The lack of mention of your stutter All those things Yeah Was there a lie detector done at the time? A lie detector done Since A lie detector in court, that's inadmissible, isn't it? I've been in prison I've been in the lie detector And just a fast start with flying colours I think one other thing If I remember from what you were saying the other day Even the evidence about the size of your penis Which was quite an important bit of evidence Yeah, it's funny to me It's not funny to me I've got to take some Take for that obviously Because all the boys are laughing Little meat Little meat He said obviously It's not funny for me because the boys are having a laugh Little meat Oh man They put over that this man was Enormous The women didn't Suffer, don't get me wrong I've got Against these women What they did go through was Horrible But they did say The man had a large phallus Enormous I'm not small But I've been quite happy I've been like that I think But you don't have a certificate saying you're at least average Yeah, I have the official figures Hey Hey yo Come on now So you feel that if you're accepting any part of the sentence It's like accepting a guilt But do you think the knock on from that In recent times has been that you get a reputation For being as the system would see the Troublemaker and a disrupter They created me I mean what arm they created me Reports have wrote And they wrote reports about me And that's some of the reports at the rubbish And I got just a prisoner And just before I arrived there The staff were thinking They had some But Tyson had come in By their own reports They've made the self-flipping By their own reports Right You know everybody here don't you What you had there It's an induction meeting We'll just talk About your first week and what you've seen I think It should be a grand deal thing I think we've said that We'd expect you to be with us at this time Next year Beyond that We can't ever really say Because that's something that we debate amongst ourselves And talk about with headquarters Are there any Problems with the other inmates That should be here No, not as yet anyway To be equate Are there any concerns that there might be Not particularly No But I can't read the future anymore No When you look at it Paul I wonder whether it's a waste It's wasted on these people Whether it wouldn't be better if The new lads When I say new lads I don't mean I'm talking about new in the crime If we spent a bit more time with them To give them these facilities It seems like The You really can't keep your old dog New tricks man like I said earlier PTSD is real They always go ahead They stick with them for guards Guards are willing to change Because it's their job Getting paid These prisoners though that are older But if you come in with the newer prisoners And try to teach them something different In my work maybe But I still don't see it happening We seem to be getting the best We treat them with kid gloves Well the prisoners do get a raw deal In financial terms Compared with this lot But we're retaking people From the top end But because in problems in the other dispersals They'd be stuck in the segregation units Or causing no end of problems I mean you know that From when this place was a dispute That I justify being here On this unit in my own Opinion and quite a few of the staff Have shown this themselves That we justify by the fact that That You know we've done dispersal And we've seen these troublemakers On the landings and who can Be a pain in the backside This is my first time actually Seeing Paul Sykes like fully Like you know what I'm saying Paul's No And I thought it was a sharp no Do you get me? To me I thought I don't like the way she said that And I'd give me the answer To be honest with you but was it wrong again Because why is it wrong Frank I shouldn't be affected by it I shouldn't be affected because She said no but to me I took it because I was so obsessed With Because I was so obsessed with your attitude And Max's attitude Thinking that you were siding Against me, do you follow me And did not want me on the unit or whatever And on top of that when I come back You refuse to teach me but you give your reasons That you was frightened of me You suspected that I might blow up Do you follow me? You wasn't sure how I would react When I come back from Manchester To me I felt You completely against me Not just that everybody else was against me On the unit when I first came back And I thought somebody's got into your head I suspected somebody I think he's telling the truth I think everything might have Divide her body language I feel like he's Somebody did get into her head She is siding with a certain prisoner She was definitely flirting with Fabio earlier So They got into your head I didn't just look at it She's blinking way too much I didn't say to myself well it's me I got into it because I've caused it Because I've frightened her Do you follow me? I couldn't see that then 78 blinks Do you understand that Brenna? Yeah of course I can see it But it's still very difficult It's not an easy thing Whenever I look I always seem to see you When you're on the wing in the company of that man Always in the company of you Because that's what you're looking for Frank That's not a listen He could be looking for it if it's still true Tom it's a fact Because members of staff notice it Members of staff complain about it You pointed out to certain members of staff Who you know are sides with you Oh come on Oh man she's trying to flip the script Girl you are attracted to dude Y'all probably had a relationship when he got out Which is never I can't say that But I time myself You want to know what I am doing Every five minutes of the day when I first started on the wing I would pick up a telephone Who's that? What are you talking about? Who, where, why, what, when Off the wing you want to know Would you agree that you have admitted You've spent more time in the company of one man More than others Would you agree to that Because I know for a fact that you have admitted it Why then? Have you done it? Can you answer the question? Why? Well in a week when I've maybe Arranged to meet some other people Like I set up an interview with another in a week ago He didn't turn up I sat downstairs for an hour like a lemon on my own But what, but there's nothing wrong with that Do you mind some place for a moment Let's look at the facts of why I'm not talking Y'all need to fire her Stop trying to side with her It's a bad look I wonder what happened to her Because I for fact Factually she's in there Taking a liking to dude I feel like he got every right to be frustrated Why are you listening to me now You have just told me I dig female staff out I want you to prove that Because I'm not going to give up on that now I will go out of my way I will go out of my way To prove you are wrong Look, she's nervous, look Hands, she's blinking a million times He's on to something, I believe him He's not waffling He's not chatting Look at your finger Look at your threats to Brenda He's not afraid He's just accused me of something So is that what you're saying to me Is that what you're bringing up to me in the past You're telling me I'm using females in prison To f*** me out in kicks That's not what she said So what are you saying to me then Why did you bring it up You insulted me there Brenda Of course he wants to stop here You know you insulted me You pushed her into it Frank You pushed her into everything Why did you bring it up then Because you threatened her again And you're not threatening her Because you're giving her this all the time I'm not threatening her She's overly nervous I'm not threatening her He's not threatening her He's pulling out facts And she can't think of a lie quick enough He made life an absolute misery for Brenda And this dude is just a munch He's going to agree with Brenda or whatever He's going to be there And if she's been getting That for the last Six months nobody Not any one of us Not Brenda because she's female or anything Not any one of us has a right to take The amount of s*** that she was getting Because he wanted to impose himself on her If Brenda's been taking that amount of s*** For the last few months It's hardly surprising That she experiences a lot of stress And feels a lot of pressure So I was there this morning And I... Get another job, Brenda Apply somewhere else I was able, I like to think to You have that option To control a little bit of the flow Frank showed his true colours there I have to say this, Trevor Now Brenda showed her true colours Sure He went in there with all the good intentions in the world I'm convinced of that I'm convinced that he went in with good intentions I wonder how much He meant these good intentions Because they very quickly evaporated And what I saw there Was not So much a temper control problem There was a bit of it there He did lose his ride a little bit But it was a lot more than that What are we going to tell him 1074 or what? Hang on, you need to set your team up And I'm going to get on the telephone to read you To see about his move Go on to the walk now On the second one You and me Just the one side Can you just keep away Just great distance I believe dude Within two hours Frank Winston was on his way to another jail Because of threats from the other inmates Three weeks later David McAllister made his escape From the jail Ah, David He was caught in London after five days And returned to Hull Within hours he'd smashed up a cell In the hospital wing And he was whisked away to a high security prison An inquiry at the prison Reprimanded two officers for security failures But A-Wing's regime hasn't changed The experiment continues It's a failed experiment That was very drama-y Even like, comment, subscribe Turn on your post notification bells I'm done