 Hey, I love ones in your cat doing The cat the cat is doing good. I'm actually out of the city. I'm in This place near the border of Maharashtra and Gujarat, so just north of Bombay called Goldwood Okay, and the cat is hiding In the bedroom just the house is a bit bigger than she what she's used to Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us, man We've been an admirer years for quite some time now actually the first thing we ever saw you in was actually a Couple years back in Padma Vat Where it was a Phenomenal film a phenomenal performance by you so you want to tell me a little bit about working on such a big Massive film such as that because I know you've worked on much smaller films like death in the gunge and and other things like that But what was it like we're down as such a massive set like Padma Vat? We shot it over a year I mean, I think I was in one of the first shots of the film and then I was on I was I Had a little bit left Unlike the last day, so it was over a year and two days. I think The film was shot over and in the middle in between I tried to do other projects Because there's no other way really and I'd never been on something of that scale and I'd never seen that attention to detail and Grandiosity in the sets because it was it was both it was the that feeling of walking into An enormous space which gives you which just gives you a feeling already, you know, you bet you don't have to create a Feeling of a grand entrance because you you walk into a place that makes you feel like you've made a grand entrance. Yeah So that was that was cool and then the attention to detail which is like the little detailing work done on each pillar and the aging and Just a hand-painted work. It's just phenomenal, phenomenal. I did another film with him Gangubai it's coming out in February. Oh, with Alia, right? Yeah Gotcha, and even on that. I mean very different scenario but he's recreated an older version of Bombay And just the production design is like the aging on the walls. You could look at each little panel of wall and think that somebody has hand-painted this and it's just phenomenal. So anyway The scale of that was great Being able to You know having a fair amount of time in between schedules was also a nice thing a new thing for me I was used to just going in at least with Nijia and getting it done in 13 days So, you know in case you wanted to bring any other shades to the character you should have done it in those 13 days Whereas here you could take a break and be like, maybe I maybe the character needs this Maybe the character needs a bit of this. Why don't I throw in a little bit of this as well? You know, it was that time to let things settle and re-imagine the arc and Think well, I played this scene in this way and now I'm only coming to the the precursor to this scene A month later. So I really have time to think how I want to How I want to move backwards, you know, how Based on something I've shot that's later in the film. How do I want to set it up now? It's Fun fun What was interested with that? What was the longest break you had in the shooting schedule? I don't remember Okay, you said at least a month. Yeah. Wow. Yeah at times. Yeah And there was so many days it wasn't even their fault they were That that production had so many mishaps the yeah people came and set fire to the set at some point The another time in Rajasthan they came The Karni Sena showed up and demolished the set So there were lots of starter starts and stops as well Yeah Was it difficult to get back into character at times or did you enjoy that because you got to bring more to the character? I enjoyed it. It was it's almost like I Started to think of it because I was doing three or four projects at the same time I started to think of it kind of like you take the pin off and the groove is already more or less set You just put the needle back on the record and the same thing kind of keeps playing and you know, you just have to know which Groove to slot it into. Yeah, so it was a bit like it was a bit like that you kind of I think the first two schedules while you're still figuring out who the person is that is difficult and then after after that without wanting to take away the idea of still being surprising or Create surprising moments You more or less have a sense of who the person is and now you're just slotting back into that general shape that you and the director have Come upon together And you had said it was the first time you were on a production of that massive scale Was that also your first time getting to know and work with run beer? Yeah, yeah first time getting to know him. Yeah Yeah, I hadn't really We'd met on and off He was one of the I mean many people claim to have suggested me for the part I don't know but Run beer claims to be one of the people that also suggested me for the part Y'all had great chemistry on screen. Was that just was was that just easy to do with both of you? Really easy. Yeah, really easy. Yeah, very reactive Hector was basically unafraid to make big bold choices and really try to Fill them Which just means You know if you offer something you're going to get something in return to play off often that just Makes your life so much easier. Yeah, as opposed to offering things the scene falling dead you waiting for the actor to finish their lines you can say your line because It wasn't that at all It was very it was very it was like a little it was like a little tinderbox We didn't we weren't even sure where we were going to go. We would sometimes decide things Separately, but oftentimes we would you know take go to the side and be like let's laugh at this point No matter what we're gonna laugh at this point, you know, we're gonna we're gonna build to that whereas other times We would just play off the energy of the other person and See Where we could go with the scene and There would be times where a scene which we really thought we would be going to be playing a bit more sober and serious We'd be like screaming and Tell Matt down a notch just You know when we when we saw you in that There's a lot of actors that when we see them you can and I know you can probably tell this as well as an actor that you can tell There's a level of both Probably training as well as theater experience And you're you're one of those actors when we saw you we were like this is not a novice This is somebody who knows this craft. I'm I'd love to know When did you know you wanted to be an actor and what was that that path for you to at the beginning? Recently I think someone My mom came to set On rocket boys, which is this series. I'm shooting just now and somebody was like So, when did you think that you became an you know wanted to be an actor they asked me and she was like where there was never any There was no other choice really and I basically think that that's true. I don't think that I've ever been interested in anything else as much or with I I've just never been there. Nothing else has has stuck even remotely It's always been kind of that this is telling stories creating stories I don't think I don't think i'm gen i'm destined to be only Only an actor perhaps I do Like the world building involved in being a director as well, but i've only done that in theater so far Never even attempted with film only because I still feel i'm i'm learning so much It's only been Five years since my my first film So Yeah, I've been a heck of a five years Yeah, I've tried to learn as much as I can on the job And I feel I have a much better sense of like edit and How things are put together and how film acting is different from stage acting and How it's not as well how how it's also not, you know, it really depends on how you're captured But basically the frame is king. The frame is everything. It's everything and uh, you don't realize that As a stage actor coming in in the beginning you're a bit just like my performance will Carry through no man. It's like no it just doesn't matter if it's not framed right if they don't capture it It just doesn't matter what you've done and how good it was. It really doesn't matter So you are not that important And hope that they they they know what they're doing and nine times out of ten they do So you've done Like so much we've seen you not only obviously in films and in tv shows or ott like made in heaven and Stuff like that, but like you also do like music videos like we saw your cold mess Um, uh thing which was absolutely phenomenal. Uh, we love that So is it is it like important to you do like most performers to just do different things and like keep it Keep it fresh so you don't get bored Yeah, I guess that's what it is. I really don't think about it in terms of Uh You know, I I mean, I don't I really don't think of the Future The business aspect of it staying relevant all of these things are new concepts that people say to me since Being in things and being a bit more in the public eye, but I really for me It's just all about If something sounds interesting, I'm happy to try it out if something sounds like it could be a fun project I'm happy to do that music video great concept I've known the director and the producer for a while. I know the coaca I've acted film with her that they actually directed and produced the same team No brainer Yeah Are there are there are certain characters or Even genres but more specific characters that are that you are attracted to that you've noticed that are a particular kind of thing that Uh, or is it the kind of story? Is it more the kind of story that attracts you? um See this is I don't know. Um I think that When I still in doing theater, there was no particular Genre or a particular type of person I think after new jai got slotted into and only offered a certain kind of role Right for a certain amount of time Which I was quite uncomfortable with and I remember very Very naively Giving interviews being like why would I be typecast? After new jai just don't even understand how that could be a concept And then four years later people are still asking me the same question if I'm like Move on talk about anything Uh So it happened And uh, I So no, I don't think I'm particularly drawn and now it's more like I want to just do different things and what I've done so far I would love to do a comedy. I would love to do something life, but still The very subjective good still what I would consider Uh I was going to say word like valuable, but I don't even know if I mean that Something I would still consider to be a watchable film, you know something But I I kind of want to do something light and funny and something that makes people laugh and Uh Only because I've got such serious roles And Intense roles up until now even um, even a couple things that are happening now. They're all quite intense Uh, and you know, sometimes you have a director that's seen me in some other things and It just so happened that this film I did right now. She had watched made in heaven and So she basically wanted that guy, you know, and it just so happened that the shooting Happened at the same time as made in heaven. It's like, I don't want to be that guy and another thing I'm just I'm just doing that and made in heaven seasons. So please let me make a different character. Trust me It'll be good. It's different than what you're thinking, but it'll be good She didn't trust me. So we've got some kind of We've we've got some kind of Half-baked middle ground character between her idea and my idea That's how it goes sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we uh, we talked to Nawaz I guess almost two years back now almost two years ago, uh, and he said right after gangs everybody wanted to hand him a gun All the time and he's like, I want I want to be handed the girl From here on out, so it's uh, it happens to everyone That's awful, but you've done you've now done otts film Theater, what do you think it's like? I have been aggressively in the last two or three years been avoiding a certain kind of work and Been trying to I guess the term is rebrand, but you know, it's more or less been like I just don't want to I just don't want to Validate this type of role anymore only because people will just keep giving it to me because they'll say you're good at that And people don't have an imagination. You have to show them. You have to show people For them to believe it they There's no other way. There's no other way and it's not necessarily a a complaint. It's just the way it works I if I've never met you and I've only seen you in this one particular thing I think you're good at only that. I would have to be shown proof otherwise for me to believe otherwise So I've been aggressively trying to take on different kinds of things and I get I guess my favorite genre of role would be like, uh, you know Like a hard guy, but with a heart of gold, you know, hard guy, but hard of gold That would I guess be my And yeah, maybe some some project where I get the girl that would be Wonderful Not not two different girls not not cheating on one or Yeah, exactly That's some bizarre love triangle where it's proved that I hate women essentially Speaking of of that Let's talk about made in heaven because it was a phenomenal series And and hopefully it's a phenomenal for season two season season two Really don't know what you okay You were you were essentially Made the villain almost quite early on in the show, right? Because of what we learned until obviously we were learning the whole picture and you're still kind of the villain, but What is it difficult sometimes for you to as an actor to not judge a character? Um, no No, okay No, I I never liked this idea of The Divine or the the devil. It's just not my interest. I don't believe it exists. I believe it's completely made up. It's it's It's just a way for human beings to Deal with their insecurities. I I I imagine Either can't really be dealt with in a human way and I feel the human way is the most interesting the messy flawed weirder Way, it's just a lot more interesting. So So I've never So I've never believed in that like for example, just now I'm playing homie baba and he's considered I'm reminded of just how Great of a man and his legacy All the time for example, we shot recently somewhere and we we we came out of this david sassoum library and In bombay and the the building right adjacent to the library was You know, homie baba university And then if you go somewhere else, you know, this is this is a man with a Who's considered a genius and the way people have responded to the trailer as well is off a certain way and I disagree with that as well Just like how I would disagree with you judging What we would consider a bad person a villain. I I I disagree with both I mean Both make the person un unapproachable unfeelable un malleable Someone we can't relate to someone we other and I I don't believe in that. They are people they have been Raised in a certain way. They have a variety of influences acting upon them and They also do these other things The two are infinitely connected and infinitely interesting and Yeah, so I I don't really judge them one way or the other right from the beginning. I think Which is my my new stance on Terrorist or hijacker is like no absolutely not I refuse to do it ever again unless that person is the protagonist Unless you're really going to understand what makes somebody like that Unless you're really going to go into it. I have no interest in playing it because it's too easy to other the person wash your hands of any role you may have had in the creation of this person and Live your happy good life where this person is, you know the darkness and I just don't believe that's true. We're all the darkness Yeah, that that approach to the craft is evident in what you do particularly in a dill in made in heaven and I was wondering Um, how much of because like it's it's easy if an actor goes the route of just Accentuating those negatives and making that person the antagonist it becomes too easily a cliche Of a character and I'm interested to know very one dimension and boring. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, how much of the how much of Whether it was the backstory or just everything you did to not judge this character and justify everything he did from a very real place Was that given to you just inherently in such a great script? Was that collaborative with the director or was that your own choices? Um, totally collaborative with the entire writing team and directorial team. Um, I think I remember being in college and being obsessed with this girl who had a boyfriend at the time and When when When judged by me In the situation the person has responded with I love two people. What can I tell you? And at the moment it was Disgustful to me and then I found myself in the same situation Years later when I I loved two people and it was true and I didn't want to hurt either I really didn't I didn't know what to do. I was in a situation where I really didn't know what to do I had I didn't have the life experience to handle it delicately Or honorably And I feel it happens to more people than people care to admit So I tried to bring That to the table. I mean in Many ways Tara is a very good match for her. She is Quite ruthless and business-minded and twisty And we'll do What it takes to get what she wants and I think if he could Get out of the mindset of thinking of her as His assistant he would be able to Value all of those things in a different way, but I don't think he's Programmed to be able to really do that. So I do think that uh, there is this Slightly More fiery um Mercurial Attraction to her Which he wants to douse Completely By saying take care of my mother and take care of the house and serve me breakfast and abcdfg Whereas with uh Fezza, there's a much much more Comfortable home I can Save you, but you know me and understand where I come from and So I think there's you know, there is he's stuck between these two different Things does he want the Does he want the Softer and easier in one way situation, but difficult in a different way. I think he will always look down on somebody who doesn't have it in them to Go get it. You don't go get what they want Which I don't think Fezza has So whereas with our uh, he he has that but he'll look down on the other things which is like a Classist pape giaco way of looking at life. So I don't think he's a good guy I think he's a product of his environment Yeah, yeah, that's what's so beautiful about that show is i'm sure and I know you've heard this before is how Gray every single character is like they don't every single character has their their great Qualities and and the stuff they mess up just you know, it makes them very human, right? It makes them very real which a lot of shows don't Typically do especially with their leads their leads are normally perfect round wonderful people and Uh, and so that's it's one of the things that's so wonderful about the show One scene there's two scenes in particular with you and them that were some of my favorites Was towards the very end with you and sorbetha When basically the breakup scene in the uh in the room Which was shot almost exactly like a play is what we said after the scene Was it did it feel like that during the during the shooting of that scene? Oh, yeah, it was like continuity. Who knows where that's gone? I hope I hope they got it Yeah, I don't know if I we can do it again. Um, so we shot it a couple times and kind of said just We we got to hit this one position because that's A clear position that we can rehearse and we got to hit this other Apart from that it was a bit. It was a bit. It was more like a play and Whatever they got they got Um Yeah Yeah, it was an absolutely fantastic scene. You both killed it and then the other one was the dick measuring contest review and vj raz Uh in the in the meeting which was uh, was that so fun to shoot? Yeah, it was pretty straightforward actually it was pretty as it As it was it was just written that way really simple and really uh, and of course he's such a good performer Yeah, it's all of these other things uh Yeah, it was fun to shoot, but it was also I just remember it feeling very Normal and easy. It was it didn't have the same kind of like intensity as the The play break up. Uh, yeah, it was a yeah because everyone it was It was polite knives out, right? Yeah No one was out of control. Everyone was in hyper control actually Yeah, so it's it's different. It's a different kind of enjoyment, but yeah, yeah, it was so fun So I would love to know we asked this of every actor that we talked to because this is what is Most matters to us so much is the process that you would go about As an actor taking away the fact that obviously you've got to go to the script And you're going to figure out the who what where went and why I'd love to know it. Do you have a particular kind of way you create your characters? Or does it just differentiate based on what you're given in the script and what the project is? Yes Great answer I don't know I come from the tradition of repetition rehearsal Don't worry too much. Just keep trying it in different ways. You learn different things just through that repetition I find that once I have a sense of who the character is then I just need to read it a couple times but actually like in in performance mode not in Just reading reading it mode and then I get ideas and I really don't know where they come from and Sometimes that's they feel good and If I had a really collaborative Direct on rocket boys who was very interested in my ideas and we would really sit on the scenes before I Try to make them as Surprising and and true to my character as we could And it was just lovely having somebody who You know had the time to care about it as much as I did and wanted to rework them as well and I really can't say there's anything Much more than Trying to imagine who the guy is and then once you kind of have a handle on that then just trying to imagine how you can make the scene as surprising and true and Very as well, especially when we shot two seasons together. So You know, you have the opportunity to show so many sides of a person in two two seasons you you really do And I think people that waste that opportunity. It's very it's sad to me when I Watch you can really show So many aspects of a person That actually if you spend time with them, you would see nobody is one Way everybody is multiple ways Mm-hmm. What was the question You answered it perfectly You've answered it perfectly it was about your process. Yeah, okay And I'm guessing I just basically think repetition. It's just the the trick is repetition. I mean you can have all the other things that you want People have more spiritual approaches and think of animals and a b c d e But essentially just keep reading it just read it over and over again and try to I think that's Pretty failsafe And I'm guessing a lot of that comes from your theater background of you like doing rehearsal because I know there's a bunch of actors who don't actually like rehearsals because they think it takes away the What the spontaneity or whatever, right? I think that is So I'm guessing that's that's you like doing the like you just said repetition of it the rehearsing of scenes to get it to get it right and Right. Yeah, you have to you have you have to rehearse to make it seem Natural otherwise you're speaking words that aren't your own. How can you possibly in the moment make it look Particularly spontaneous. You can only go with your best The best thing you can come up with on that day. What if you're in a bad mood? What if you're in what if you're upset? What if you're tired? What if you're rushed? What if somebody has just Uh, you know casually demeaned you off of camera, you know, what if the ad has been rude? You know, there are thousand factors that can go wrong in In the moment and you're relying on that You're relying on on that and then you see what the person spontaneously comes up with and it's like You shouldn't rehearse, right? Yeah, that's awesome That's fantastic But in that light, do you have a preference because like There's obviously the different kinds of things that happen for actors in in theater versus versus tv and film But like in in a play There's the endless discovering of a character by doing it over and over and over again But in a tv series There's this unique capacity To see this character go through new experiences and you don't have to create back story because that character actually did that you filmed that Do you have a preference of those two formats or they just you love them both? I love them both my my unfortunate preference winds up being with film and with Web series is only because I like the form of that better as a viewer I prefer going to a film then to a play. It's just always been true for me. It's not Nothing against theater. It's just been true for me as a kid. I never went to theater. I just watched movies I could be put in front of the tv and they'd come back five hours later and be like jim the movie has been over Since two hours. What have you been watching for three hours? It'll be the news or it'll be the weather I'll just be like fascinated by this person on the screen So because of that You know, if I'm getting some work if I'm getting web series work, I tend to move in that direction But nothing beats The experience of performing for a live audience and really feeling that when you're surfing them and You kind of have them here and you can you know, you can go like this and they laugh and go like this They'll cry and people like this and they'll feel choked, you know, that's that's Wonderful Yeah, also just the live feedback you can leave and you can know was it good? Was it bad? What was it? Whereas here you're always guessing how will it work? Will it work well? Will they edit out my good bits because they got to even out the scene Will they you know pick that take that I they made me do even though I was like, please don't make me do this and then You know because they have a different idea of The thing and they're trying to tell a story and at the end of the day It's up to them and you really have to let it go and let it be In their hands as opposed to on stage where I'm my own editor I can ignore all the stuff I disagreed with you about and just do my own thing And if the audience likes it, you'll be like, see I cast him, you know what I'm saying I mean, you know, I this is that I missed that I really I really missed that because then You know, the whole audience got to see Who could do it that day and some days you can't do it and some days you can't do it Whereas in a film You don't know who could do it that day. I watched scenes that I edited together. I was like, oh, I could not do it that day Saved me have saved me in the edit Right Yeah, or I watched a scene where I was like that guy Did not know his lines. I mean we spent six and a half extra hours shooting a single scene because he didn't know his lines But it's working fine in the in the scene so It's interesting Yeah Interesting. I never like to give up either. I'd always like to be able to I'd always hope that I could still come back to do a play and you know I'll still be able to project loud enough to get through it Do you have any plans currently to go back to theater because of coven? It's not not doing this Just know there's no plays have started up again. Um, but I'm not really I'm not signing anything new I guess we'll just have to be a really interesting play Yeah, no one's come to me with that yet. I'm not really interested in jumping in and like devising a piece anymore You know, like I want I want the situation to be You know, I wanted to be of a certain Quality I guess now. I don't know what else to say. Otherwise. I'd rather just do nothing. I'd rather just sit around and read and Take classes. Yeah, absolutely. No, yeah Are there are there people that through your life and even today that have inspired you or currently inspire you? Whether they were actors that you've left their work or just some personal heroes of your own Absolutely So many people I Mean if we're talking I mean if we're talking about actors specifically, they're just so so so so so many actors that I watch them like I know Joaquin Phoenix has become like hot now because Joker etc. But like for years. I've been saying that he's just something else um After I said so many I'm struggling to find them Respect no one I I get like yeah, exactly. Exactly. Um, yeah, I do get um I do get I've been noticing that I get tunnel tunnel vision as in If I'm in one project and I'm learning those lines and those are the lines in my head and if someone, you know A year after film comes out is like, why don't you say your famous line from that movie? I'm like, I don't know remember what it is Or they'll be like you lip sync this song perfectly. What are the lyrics and it's like I used to know them Uh Actors don't live in those worlds like the fans do for sure. Yeah So and today all I'm thinking when you say this is like, oh, I'm reading this book called the new history of humanity And the guy is talking about how basically all european thought has essentially come from like indigenous people from other countries And I'm like, yes, that makes sense. That makes sense. This is my hero This is motivating me to you know Think about The world in a different way. It's fascinating. This book. It's it's really incredible. I'm not too far into it, but uh I've been thinking about this for a while. Well, like I mean the propaganda machine. I mean, it's just the PR the PR of like european intellectual thought and as and then being the guardians of culture Worldwide is so strong and so deeply rooted especially in colonial countries that Getting out of that mindset is It's always felt something about it has always felt wrong and reading this book. They're really they're looking about how most of the What's it called the enlightenment period where the all the ideas of like democracy and civilization, etc that we now consider Because that's how history is taught to us the cornerstone of you know thought Right is mostly borrowed from indigenous critiques of european culture And it's like well that makes sense Yeah I agree Yeah, so so many people Back on the question So many people jeddy palawa recently If we if we're going if we're going with the indian no other than always has been an inspiration just in terms of like jumping genres and Proving that you don't have to look a certain way and you don't have to Be a certain way in order to Get roles and play interesting deep characters. I love the idea that You know scammed it so well Uh this year at the film fair ott they swept all the awards It's cool to see a you know an outside of patik ghandi You hadn't really had many roles before then come up and you know be the most talked about person Performance wise of the year and yeah also to see just a story that has been told in a different way in a more Interesting and layered way than perhaps how Bollywood tells stories sometimes um You know on all of that. Yeah, we're even looking at And then if we're looking like internationally who else is really good right now Who else is out there where i'm like? I mean marriage story Item drivers and everything these days so again, yeah, like there's that there's that unfortunate like Thing that happens where like if you see too much of a person you start to be like, ah, well, they're always gonna be good Yeah But he's an art story. He's just so good great film Absolutely great. No, it's just so good. It's just so well put together Yeah, yeah, actually that last Go ahead say I was going to say that last scene in in main heaven actually felt like marriage story almost like that that that scene that we talked about That's what that punch in the wall Digging of on you online a little bit. I don't know if you've seen this There's like a pretty big drive that people want you to play in the serencha either son Or like him in a biopic. Have you heard they've seen that? I would love to I would love to I think it'd be a great casting honestly Let's let's start as son. I mean he has he has a son but let's start as son and then Let's we can yeah, we can go about There was that aging app at some point Where they age your face and I put it in and I mean it just came out. Let me see I can see it man. There'd be a great casting. Absolutely see it Well speaking of projects that you we now go ahead. Go ahead you oh, there was there was a project once called Josh roger roger josh. I think yeah, and uh Where he does have a son at the table and the dates didn't work out, but that was going to be the first time It was going to potentially happen. Yeah Yeah, we've seen more to it in the future Yeah, I've seen that Yeah, so speaking of potential projects is is there anything you want us to know about in the entire Stupid family that you're currently working on that we can be looking out for and we can be supporting I don't think I'm allowed to talk about the things Rocket boys is coming out. Yeah, jan 28th. I'm very excited about it. We've really worked hard um I hope It's brilliant It's about these two very fascinating men homie papa and vikram sarabha homie papa was a father of the Indian uh nuclear program and vikram sarabha. I was a father of the indian space program and um This first season. I don't want to I don't want to reveal too much, but essentially It follows their friendship and their Disagreements and agreements and their head budding through their lives and they've really tried to paint, um You know, it's a fictionalized version of course of of of the events. It's the but we've tried to We've tried to create two characters that You know are strong in different ways and the way that they clash is just very different one is a bit more flamboyant and a bit more uh Strong headed, but you can also rely on him uh To do the right thing and the other one seems a bit more You know Pensive and a bit slower about his decisions, etc but needs that push to get things done, you know, and It's nice to have the two of them. One is very much a pacifist. The other one is very much a realist and um just how those those two different thought processes come into conflict right at the time that india was getting its independence and moving on forward and The show goes all the way up until homie baba's death and become sarabha's death in season two And we've shot season one and most of season two. There's about seven days left, but we're taking a break to Release season one and then come back and Finish off season two Anyway, I'm very excited about it. It's going to be on sony live. I really hope you I hope you guys watch it and everyone. Yeah, I hope everyone watches it. Yeah. I really do. Yeah, absolutely Has the trailer come out yet? No, the trailer hasn't come out yet, but you can go on to my instagram and see There's these two clips that have been released. One is The two of us having a conversation on the day independence is announced and another one is My character talk. Well, I don't want to reveal one talk, but you can see that you can see the clip Yeah, yeah, it was put that was put out on homie baba's birthday Um Sounds like sony liv is uh putting out a lot of good content lately man. That's that's exciting. That's very exciting Uh, looking forward to that. Well, thank you so much for talking to I want to finish it off a little bit of rapid fire here Uh for you to uh answer. So first off coffee or chai? coffee Uh favorite favorite Shakespeare play Uh Favorite alcoholic beverage if you drink beer as you've What kind of beer what kind of beer are you drinking? I'm just drinking a regular kingfish Uh favorite snack Um I mean this pizza account is a snack Sure, of course it does. Uh your favorite hollywood director Um, oh Never couple that you like. Yeah, uh, okay. Um, david fincher, uh, west anderson Yeah Both phenomenal. I mean I I very much enjoyed doing uh, then it's been in red. Um But yeah, let's yeah, yeah, let's leave it out in your favorite hollywood film. Yeah favorite hollywood film I don't know Let's make it a classic Classic, okay Apocalypse now Uh, and your favorite indian film any region. I'm gonna say salam al-may Hmm. Okay, and your favorite curse word chew And uh your favorite book reading right now Yeah I I mean that's not true, but why not? Yeah, I just read my family and other animals by gerald d'oro also and I love that book Have you read this book? No, I have another Oh, it's brilliant. You got to read it. It's about this english family. Very funny Quirky english family that goes to corfu And it's all told from the eyes of the like youngest member of the family that is a Is a obsessed with the natural world Uh And just it's so good. It's so good. It's brilliant Oh, check that out. That's That sounds a lot of fun. Well, thank you so much for talking to us, man We really appreciate it. We think you're so so talented everything you've ever been in we've always Really enjoyed your performance and and and the films that you you decide to do We're so looking forward to everything the rocket boys the the the thing I can't pronounce with santi lube and salli and alia And then anything in the future that you have go and uh, we're very much looking forward to it So thank you so much for talking to us rick. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah Yeah, sincerely we don't um We don't want to talk to just everybody who's in the entertainment industry What what really gravitates toward us because in the heart of our core we're actors who just love film and love this craft And from the first moment we saw you we we knew the caliber of who you were and the continued work you do is just Exactly what corbin just said we we really believe in you. We love what you do with this art form We think you're at the the top of the craft and we wish you all the best and you'll know We'll be supporting whatever you're doing and want to know all about it Thank you so much. Yeah, thanks for your time. It's great talking to you, man Have a great night I'm glad I'm glad you didn't lead with that. I wouldn't have been able to speak Thanks, thank you very much. Thanks Jim. Well good good day to you guys. Good night. Oh, yeah You have a good night