 I'm Nobun Dwitster. I'm an entrepreneur. I moved to Santin to pursue a dream. I've based myself in Santin because it's the gateway to Africa. The neighborhood of Santin is alive. It's alive with possibility. It's got the most amazing vibe. If you need to get anything done, this is the place to get it done. One of the things I really love about Santin is how it lights up at night. If those lights don't inspire you, nothing will. Santin is the richest square mile in Africa. It has everything from shopping in Santin City to five-star hotels like a Michelangelo for my international guests. It works for me to be here. There are so many designer stores. There's an abundance of clothes and everything else to choose from. Being an entrepreneur, I travel a lot so it's really convenient to be able to get onto the hot train and in 15 minutes I'm at the airport. Business is important to me but my family is everything and that's why my family and I are looking to move into one of the suburbs in Santin. Santin has some of the most exclusive homes in the country in places like Hyde Park and Sand Down. A little bit less fast paced is your suburbs like Brineston and Givolia. Brineston was a natural choice. It's got great open spaces. It's safe. My son's already had a really good school there. Santin gives me a great variety from an awesome nightlife to beautiful places for lunch to spas where I can really relax and recharge. Things happen in Santin and that's my neighborhood. Welcome to episode 47 of the Private Property Podcast. I'm your host, Uzaman Tawakumalo. It's the day after youth day. I know many of us probably took yesterday to just rest, to calm down and maybe not respond to the many emails that we are always inundated with as we are working from home. We're of course back right here on the Private Property Podcast and before we get started with this evening's show we actually want to address Monday's show. We know many of you were watching excitedly on Monday as we were giving away that 100,000 grand prize but unfortunately it didn't quite go as many of us and even ourselves included expected and as you saw you know certainly on our Facebook page we heard a lot of your art prizes and we have made sure to remedy this one and I'm sure that there are probably some people who have not read certainly our apology on Facebook. I want to actually read it out and even give the solution that we've come up with in order to make sure that everybody is happy and not just us but also you as our loyal viewers at home and on Facebook this was on yesterday we wrote Dear Private Property Family we missed even though it's youth day because we posted this yesterday and we had some exciting things lined up. We can't continue with our day knowing that we have heard members of our community and the brands we represent in the way that we handle the 100,000 grand cash prize draw hosted on our live podcast on Monday. Now having read every comment and every single emoji we have heard your outcry and know that we owe you an explanation and most importantly an apology leading up to the draw we were super excited to share the announcement with you and the lucky draw winner whose life was about to change and in our excitement we incorrectly communicated that the winner selected would need to one answer the phone and two reply with the phrase at that pace but we were wrong and we were advised by our auditors just before the draw took place that we were obligated to follow the original T's and C's which we did not stipulate the new rules. While we had the best intentions of making the draw a fun and exciting experience for everyone this decision was made in fairness of everyone who entered according to the original T's and C's. The last minute change caused quite a lot of confusion as many of you saw on Monday and for that we would like to say that we are quite sorry. In these circumstances we understand that sorry alone simply is not enough as part of taking responsibility for our actions we need to make amends and we've decided that the prize of 100,000 rand will be equally split between the two people whose names we called out during the show and in addition we will be giving away 5,000 rands over the next 10 podcast episodes starting today with this episode and everyone who entered the initial competition automatically qualifies for these daily draws. Now in your feedback and we plead certainly for constructive criticism we're also learning as we go along with this particular podcast and we do appreciate all the words that you have saved to us. Again we do apologize and as we've said we'll be announcing the winner of the 5,000 rand prize every single day for the next 10 episodes and you can look forward to that later on on the show. So later on we'll be announcing the first winner of the 5,000 rand prize and it's great to be exciting I mean you you guys already know how excited I get giving away money I often wish that I was the one receiving the money unfortunately I cannot enter the competition but we'll get to that fun part later on on the show but for this evening's show we are profiling young people in property you all know how excited I am to talk about property but I even get more excited when I talk to my peers people who are in my age group young people but they're passionate about property and doing certain things in property whatever their innovation in the property space is I always get excited and this evening I'm joined by Balissa Mului who's the founder and CEO of Park Up as well as Brian Song or who is the sales manager of the Africa region for property and space. Balissa and Brian good evening thank you so much for joining us this evening. Hi Zalma thank you so much for having us on the show I'm really excited to be here to talk about our journey as a startup and also contribute to your podcast and I think let's start actually with you Balissa I mean certainly you know when you talk about pup tape it's something that's relatively new in South Africa or it's not as mainstream as you know the traditional ways of conducting property what exactly is Park Up and how did it come about? So Park Up is a parking application where we're basically giving the opportunity for property owners who have empty parking spaces to list their parking on our platform if it's empty and then drivers will go on to the platform to book the parking on a monthly daily and even on an event basis so that's what Park Up is and how it came about is that I was actually auditing City of Johannesburg while I was still doing my articles to become a chartered accountant. As a trainee you know we didn't have parking spaces allocated to us so I had to park on the side of the road and I mean I drive a VW I was always scared about like my car getting stolen and all that stuff so I had to go find an alternative place I guess a solution for myself where I could park my car there during the day so I found you know a parking lot just down the road had a side agreement with one of the guards actually to say can I park here during the day you know I'm really really scared that my car's gonna get stolen because it's in brown and that's how it started I must say also the initial business model that we had was quite different to the one that we have at the moment we realized that there were a lot of various entry into that market so what we're trying to do is to improve the parking experience for shopping centres and then we realized that it wasn't going to be as easy for us to get into that and hence the pivot into a market place for parking and yeah that's a park up story in a nutshell and you know it's actually so interesting because a lot of people depending on where you're going to be parking certainly when you look at the CBD in Joberg even when you look at Cape Town finding parking in those two markets is a nightmare and I certainly know a lot of people in Cape Town always complain about the difficulty of finding parking so certainly an app or an innovation like park up does sort of address that particular need because you don't want to have to spend a significant time looking for parking or parking your place and then wondering if there's something wrong and then you're a bit distracted from work we'll talk a little bit more about you know how you've gone about pivoting because as I said you've had to pivot especially when you look at now the effects certainly of COVID and the reality that there simply aren't that many people who are looking for parking right now because we're all at home and we're hoping people of course are home and it is staying safe and this has to be a way to continue conducting business even though we're in the middle of a global pandemic so finding the different innovative ways to do so right I want to bring you in so you're working for you know property inspect we've certainly covered right on the private property podcast the importance of inspections and I think if anything we should probably have an episode just that's solely dedicated to you know inspections why they imported how they are conducted and inside of the nuts and balls of inspections just in a nutshell how did you get involved in property and then obviously in property inspect okay hey Zaman thank you so much for for having me it's really an honor and a pleasure yeah I've been in property for about 10 years now just over 10 years getting into property was never the goal to be honest I actually thought I'd end up in medicine so very humble beginnings working a restaurant in Cape Town and just one of my clients is the one who hand picked me from the restaurant where I worked and said look they wanted me to sell property because I'd been selling breakfast so so well so that's how I got the opportunity in 2010 they helped me with my studies towards property and I joined them as a personal assistant and I've been selling properties as well since 2013 and just because one is young and you know there were many barriers into the industry I always really was looking for for ways of giving myself a bit of an edge when it comes to competition in the industry and I think that's really what kept me you know always on the lookout for for new ways of doing things new approaches technology and its impact on on the industry as a whole so in 2016 a partner and I were thinking of actually automating the property inspection process itself I mean we'd obviously with the experience that we had in the industry and all that we'd seen everything was still very manual very tedious very time-consuming and so forth and a number of applications were already changing a number of other industries and we thought imagine an application where we could do all that we need to do that an inspection comprises of on on our mobile phone so because there also are some monetary inputs that are required instead of studying our own thing from scratch through the right sort of networking with the right people we went into a joint venture with an inspection software company in the UK and we got the license to cover the African region and just grow the product in Africa and I think you know oftentimes and I even said this certainly early on in the show that PropTech hasn't isn't as mainstream in South Africa it's certainly making lots of inroads we certainly had even the CEO of Flow and they're also obviously in the PropTech space we're certainly seeing a number of different players in PropTech rising and providing different solutions for some of the the we'll say challenges that we sometimes face within the property space and as you're saying I think some of the things are very admin intensive and there's certainly different ways to automate it and you know have them be whether it's an app or whatever the innovation is but we're still getting I think when we certainly compare ourselves to whether it's our American or perhaps the British counterparts we still have a relatively long way to go but I think one of the one of the great advantages with not being the first in certain things is you're able to just essentially duplicate what other people have done and whatever issues they had they've now solved for them and you're taking an already sort of done project or even app and then seeing how you can apply it to the local context now Balissa I mean you were sharing earlier that you've had to find different ways to certainly pivot especially seeing as we are now in the era of COVID we're obviously still trying to rethink what a post-COVID world looks like although I doubt we'll ever really freely be COVID free but we're certainly trying to to think through what does the world look like when we go back to certainly what we're used to know what happened in some of those ways that you've had to to essentially pivot and look at different ways that you can fill that gaps within the property space yeah that's such a great question and way I would like to start that is the first pivot that we made right so we got into the MTN solution space in Cape Town we were super excited about our product you know when you're building something as novel as this especially in the South African context you get very excited to build an app you know just to put something out there but much to our demise actually when we got to the demo day one of the investors in the session told us that like he doesn't actually see park up going anywhere because our business model has got a lot of flaws in it so this was the original business model so we had to really think you know what is this why is this guy actually talking about and it made a lot of sense so the one day we're walking in the streets of Arbs in Cape Town Observatory and we realized that there were a lot of empty parking spaces in people's parking garages or people's shopping centers office spaces and that sort of thing but at the same time we had these cars that were actually parked on the side of the road so we did more research and we found out that it was actually very historical where you know people weren't actually using cars back then they were mostly using public transport and that sort of thing so a lot of the parking spaces were built post the area where people were not starting to use their cars but then at the same time these park aides were actually privatized so yeah I guess you know that's the first story is that we had to pivot then where we said okay cool we've got this mismatch between the demand and supply of parking why don't we create a platform where we can actually just match the two coming back into COVID so we launched last year in May 2019 in May we had you know really great traction we've got about 5,500 listings on our platform already working with the likes of Redefine, Investec Property Fund, Lisandla you know there was a lot going on for us in 2019 and we really thought 2020 is going to be our year we're going to be growing the business you know scaling so we get to 2020 COVID happens just before COVID happened for or the lockdown for our country happened I was actually in the States in Silicon Valley where we were trying to raise funding so there was a lot of I guess promising deals for us you know and I got back into the country now I'm hearing about lockdown and all of that stuff I'm like what it was very scary for us because we're like okay this means a lot of things for our business one we can't raise funding second of all the way in which people are going to be using our platform is also going to change so what we've been doing during lockdown I think from about April to up until now we started applying the design thinking methodology of actually conducting interviews with people that are on our platform and people that are not on our platform and what that means is that we're just trying to understand how are these parking I guess behavioral patterns going to change and we realize that at the moment people don't actually know what's going to happen post COVID right so we need to kind of move with the change move with the change so the current I'll call it a slight pivot and a small pivot in that it's not an entirely different business model that we're going to be going into but it's using the existing parking spaces that we have on our platform to turn them into a drive-in cinema so there's you know empty office empty parking spaces and especially in terms of rooftops and that sort of thing so we just thought okay cool now that people are kind of locked into their houses they're not really going out there they're yearning for that you know human experience outside of their homes why don't we create something for them where they can actually do that in a safe social distancing type of environment and that's why the drive-in cinema is something that works for us and it also I guess it's a platform for us to keep going while we find a long-term kind of pivot for the business and also while we watch what the market is doing while we watch what you know how people are actually changing their parking patterns so that's the slight pivot that we've come up with and we're continuously doing the design thinking with the methodologies to find out how are people going to be changing posts or maybe in the new world that we're speaking of yeah. We're going to go for a quick break and when we come back I'll still be in conversation with Balisa Mulo who's the founder and CEO of Park Hub as well as Brian Sango who is a sales manager for the Africa region for Property and Spits and of course you have you'll be looking forward to also that 5,000 rand giveaway that we'll be doing at the end of the show I'm quite excited about it and I will go through some of the rules with that particular giveaway but it's going to be exciting I mean at the end of the show certainly for the next 10 shows somebody's going to be walking away with 5,000 rand it's unfortunately not me but I'm sure many of you at home are waiting with me to break to see if you are one of the winners we're going to go for a quick break and we'll be back just after this welcome to your next home this is the perfect room if you're looking to expand the family it's perfect is a kid's room or a playroom did you say playroom yeah playroom something very bad you know let me give you a moment I'm gonna feed the uh come on you go okay back to episode 47 of the private property podcast I'm your host Uzaman Dunga Kumali this evening I'm speaking to Balaisa Malawi is the founder of Park Up as well as Brian Sangho the sales manager for the Africa region for Property and Spits now Brian we've just heard from Balaisa the different ways that Park Up is certainly tried to pivot and innovate in the era of COVID because we know that so many businesses are certainly affected by you know the impact of COVID a lot of us didn't see this one coming and certainly didn't see the extent to which we're going to be affected by this pandemic in which ways have you had to find different ways to still conduct business I mean I know there are certainly instances for example at level five and I think even a bit certainly the new regulations for level four the initial regulations rather for level four we couldn't do property inspections there was a lot of talk around how can those inspections be done especially the moment people started moving in and out of you know apartments initially of course we couldn't do so but certainly as the restrictions started loosening up a bit people could move and we went from just moving to returning to your initial place of residence to being able to get into a new lease agreement all together and that's of course part of when you know property inspections certainly becomes so important so as the economy slowly begins to open how did you know property inspect certainly have to find different ways to either pivot or innovate in the era of COVID and how are you guys seeing you know a post COVID world or certainly functioning as we're still facing COVID especially given that you know some people might think you know what if there's one thing I'll maybe you know skip it's a property inspection although of course to be as a homeowner say don't skip your inspection but people are now going to be trying to find different ways to cut this and chop that even when it comes to their property portfolio managing their property portfolio. Yeah now absolutely and I think it's highly important like Walissa touched on to to remain very adaptable to change we are living in uncertain times 2020 is nothing like we planned when I said five four three two one coming into this year I had a different idea a different goal different projections for what what I had for myself personally and as a company and and here we are you know such is life I think it's it's just a matter of us remaining positive and trying to do what we can reevaluating ourselves and our goals and everything for example for us a property inspect on an operational level nothing much pretty pretty much changed because we've always been very futuristic in terms of how we work you know just working from different places working from home where necessary allowing transportation between different cities hence I've been in Job but more times than I've been in Cape Town in the past six months before we got into the lockdown purely because I was getting bored a bit easily in one place so the operational model hasn't changed much everyone our whole team is working from home in various locations and we obviously just use technological platforms to to meet and everything the same offering is what we've been using for our clients as well so zoom meetings and and microsoft teams you name it our platforms we've just been using to to take that virtual experience and and and still use it for facial face-to-face interaction right and and then what we also did was aside from saying okay guys let's keep operating even though we were at home we thought of our clients as well to say let's put ourselves in our clients shoes let's know exactly what it is that that they're going through what challenges are they facing now they obviously need to carry out their day-to-day tasks and jobs and everything how can we best enable them to to do that even during times like these and also like Wallace I touched on that it's always important to to stay ahead of knowing exactly what what your clients need what what their teething issues are so as to go back to your own business model your own business offering and see how you can cater for some of those concerns or needs and so forth so one thing about property inspect now property inspect is a software an inspection software platform that enables any person that needs to carry out any property inspection of any kind be it a valuation inspection a move-in move out inspection for people in the rental space or commercial space or whatsoever all of that instead of it being done on a clipboard and file pen and paper like it used to is now done on their cell phone device or tablet enabling them to do everything digitally so it's paperless and automated email distribution you name it now one thing we realized was when we got into lockdown the first thing that came to mind was wet most of our clients are not going to be able to gain access into these properties so having an app on their phone is not really going to quite help them and immediately we jumped in and launched a self-service inspection platform which now was a further offering enabling the actual occupant of the space that needs to be inspected to be able to complete a digital checklist and in real time all that data photo video evidence is available for our clients that are still working from home and cannot be physically present in the property so like you probably have heard of virtual tours that are a big thing and and a whole lot of other offerings I think it's just a way of saying you know what change is good and let's continue evolving still stick to whatever it is that you need to be doing and just identify better ways of doing it but we certainly can still keep the wheel turning and yeah positive mindset just keeps every everything moving that's how we've just kept on going on and it's actually been we've been more busier now than we have before both on a national level as well as global client acquisitions as well it's just been busy seven days a week I think that's actually something that certainly a number of people in the property space are seeing that there's quite a lot of activity where property is concerned there are a lot of people who are also looking to either venture into property perhaps add property as an asset class in the investment portfolio and want to of course gain more knowledge around property and certainly in the media views of the private property podcast they go to www.privateproperty.co.z to learn as much as possible around property already doing things like comparing different areas seeing whether they qualify or don't qualify so really trying to and to get as much knowledge as possible before they put their feet in some are already in and are looking at different ways to automate whatever they're already doing enhance their property portfolio so that they're able to add perhaps the second or the third or the fourth investment property in their portfolio before I let both of you go Balisa any tips for you know certainly somebody who's looking to get into the property space particularly the property space because I think that's probably where there's still so much room for innovation and even certainly certainly for us as young people when a lot of us you know we travel a bit we've been to the land ends New York's Australia's of this world and we get a sense of how different markets are operating certainly even within the property space and we want to come back home and maybe try you know some of the solutions that we've seen being implemented in other parts of the world you even mentioned that prior to lockdown you just come from Silicon Valley to to raise capital and so certainly have a bit of experience in in the property space and the different players that are potentially there any tips you would give to somebody who's looking to venture down that road um so the one thing that I'll say about property because that it's not just about technology um I think people sometimes make a mistake that you know it's just about taking technology and then plugging into property. PropTec um goes goes as far as business model innovation so if you have a new business model that you would like to you know marry you with property that is also still PropTec. The one thing that I'll say about going into the PropTec space um or even property in general having a good network is really important and if you don't have one make sure that you invest in that because with for park up I don't think we were we would have actually made it this far if we didn't have the right people whether on our advisory board or even in our network um yeah and then also resilience so we started park up in 2016 the business model was full of floors and all of that stuff but what I realized in business is that initially all our ideas are probably wrong and I say that with you know a lot of confidence because I've seen it in my own in my own business and also other people's businesses as well so stay long enough in the game to actually chip away at whatever it is that you're wrong about um it is a very tough game it's not easy at all but I think with resilience and also just having a passion for what you do that I actually wanted to to share a story with you earlier that you know park up has become such a a unique strong brand in the sense that we have a client actually in Cape Town and he's become like our sales agent if you call it that because he loves park up so much I mean he's worked in a particular area for about 30 years and he hadn't had parking he had to park on the side of the road but because he loved our passion he he really enjoyed our customer experience he tells literally everyone that comes you know in within his radius about park up and for me that's so important to be able to build relationships like that through your passion and just telling your story as raw as it is um yeah so those are my words of encouragement and also advice I actually love that I mean and and even the point of being resilient I think certainly a lot of people in in our age group we we sometimes those stay long enough to learn some of the lessons we want you know returns relatively quickly and don't sometimes take a long-term view and the reality which certainly for property is you need to take a long-term view on it very few people make money quickly in the beginning and so you you need to be kind of long-term um when you're looking at property Brian you go from selling breakfast to selling houses what would be your tips to young people who want to get into property um yeah I know right I think my first circle I mean when you said I was just like that is the most full circle thing I could ever come like that anybody could ever actually experience I mean literally how do you go from selling breakfast one day in the next thing you're selling you know property yeah selling houses you only dreamed of seeing or houses you saw on tv um yeah the first message I'd like to put out there is that you know what dreams do come true it it takes a lot of hard work a lot of determination a lot of resilience like malice has mentioned um the the right network is highly important you need to you need to have the right voices coming towards you because that brings out the best in you and and keeps you just going all out for for what it is that you want um and then just more about the property space and the prop tech space as well I'd say it's it's an industry with endless opportunities however endless opportunities as they may be you certainly need to personally identify your why why are you doing what you're doing before you just think of before you just see a gap and say I want to jump for it identify your why because once you know your why strongly enough it goes back again ties in with what balisa mentioned is that now your passion just just bursts naturally because you know exactly what drove you to do that and once you also know your why then definitely when the days are dark when the dark days come you you still will keep going you know like I mentioned selling breakfast to getting to this point if I were to tell you how many times throughout my journey that family friends and and everyone just gave me reason to give up but because I knew my why I just hung on and um I think aside from that as well another thing I'd like to add is originality is highly important there were many many times uh in this journey where I think I was trying too hard to to speak a certain way dress a certain way and and project myself a certain way which might have seemed beneficial but the moment I just truly got to a point where I identified with my being as who I am everything just became fun for me it became very relaxed and I just saw more growth coming out of that so uh yeah it's the why it's passion it's resilience it's knowing for a fact that dreams do come true regardless of what other people may tell you and it's not letting bad situations just drain the life out of you you know stay positive try focus on what you can do in within that situation and I think one last thing I want to end off with which also goes in with the right network as mentioned earlier by Balisa is that you need to strongly take advantage of having the right type of strategic partnerships so don't try master everything don't try be someone who perfects everything you know have bring in another separate entity that's good at something else and map out a strategy where you guys can coexist and work together in the tech space they speak of integrations certain softwares that can integrate with other softwares just create a nice little ecosystem that benefits all the players but mostly benefits your clients because at the end of the day it's not about us thinking of our businesses as brands alone we need to think of who actually is making use of our business or benefiting from our business and look at it to say okay well if we give them this integrated solution or if we give them this power team or if we give them this strategic partnership we're likely to make their lives better at the end of the day so yeah thank you so much I absolutely love it and I think it really does speak certainly to how is young people we and more than anything actually like the knowing what your why is and having a strong why because there are many gaps in different markets so then beyond property they're always going to be gaps in different markets and they're always going to be different opportunities one can take advantage of but understanding why you want to do a particular thing at the core is so important because the difficult times are certainly going to come whether it's COVID or something else and when you have a very strong why you're not going to try necessarily jump on to the next thing but as certainly both of you have have done but particularly you Ballesa you're going to try and pivot because you're very clear about why you went into that particular venture. Ballesa Brian we're going to leave it there this evening thank you so much for joining us thank you so much and that was Ballesa Mooloy who's the founder of ParkUp and Brian Sam or the sales manager for the Africa region for property inspect we're going to go for a short break and when we come back we're going to be giving away that first $5,000 price of course I did mention earlier on in the show that we're going to be giving away $5,000 for the next 10 episodes right here on the private property podcast you don't want to miss this one we'll be back just after this. Of the private property podcast is of course the giveaway for as I've said we're going to be giving away $5,000 for the next 10 episodes right here on the private property podcast now so what's going to be happening and I think we must just be clear on the T's and C's and the rules so we don't make another mistake because we certainly don't want to to do that so for the next 10 episodes we'll be giving away $5,000 at the end of the podcast now these are the rules for the live podcast lucky draw they are only three rules very simple so the first one is that the competition is only open to the people who already entered the hundred thousand rand competition this also includes the estate agents as they are not employees of private property the second rule is that each episode will randomly select one winner and I'll announce the winner right here live on air just as we're about to do right now and the third rule the private property team will call the winner after the show to verify their details unfortunately if they are not able to reach the winner within 24 hours then the winner will be disqualified and the price will be rolled over to the next episode so there's a minor possibility we might do this for more than 10 episodes so if we're unable to reach the person that wins the lucky draw then we'll have to you know roll it over to the following day or to another day so with that any more delay let's get started and we're going to pick the one lucky winner for this evening show one thing that I want to emphasize it's quite exciting as you all know I've always been excited to give away money is that the moment we press start the winner is only going to be the person where it literally says winner and their name so we're doing this draw live on air it's streaming different names will keep popping up and in the event where it accidentally pauses whether it's because of internet speed or whatever the case is that's not the winner we literally have to see the words winner and the person's name and that is going to be the final winner because I know that these glitches do tend to happen maybe my fiver might be a bit slow or whatever the case is but we'll certainly be seeing who the lucky winner is shortly and there we go let's see who's going to be the lucky winner I know I feel as though this is this is one of those moments where we're all waiting with painted breath and of course now all those different winners remember it was over 40,000 people who entered and the winner is Kathleen I hope I'm pronouncing your surname properly Kathleen scenes I know I'm not pronouncing them properly you are the first lucky winner after five thousand grand prize we will be contacting you within the next 24 hours so please do keep your phone on we want to verify your details and make sure that you get your five thousand grand prize so that's the first winner of the five thousand grand prize so every single day now it's for the next nine episodes we'll be doing exactly this and announcing the winner of that five thousand grand prize well folks that's it and so folks that's it and I think I'm certainly excited for tomorrow's show we'll be talking to another trailblazer who's doing absolutely phenomenally in the property space you don't want to miss it I'm not going to announce who watch out on our social media platforms to see who exactly we'll be talking to tomorrow she's done phenomenally well I certainly want to learn a thing or two from her and make sure that you know from tomorrow's episodes I know that I'll be able to probably scale up my own portfolio as much as possible that's it on today's show and of course today's episode 47 of the private property podcast I've been your host Uzaman Tomo Akumalo I know the president will be addressing us shortly so we are looking forward to as we you know fictionally call it the family meeting with the president until tomorrow evening I hope you stay home and stay safe hi I'm Jarrod Siegel I'm a local restaurateur and the owner of Jarrod's espresso bar and eatery in Seapointe I'm a Cape Town local Camps Bay born and bred and I've been living in Sydney Australia for the last few years living abroad I've always been drawn to the mother city and I've recently decided to come back home taking lifestyle factors into consideration Bantry Bay has been the perfect fit for me living on the Atlantic seaboard really resonates with what I'm all about from the act of lifestyle the amazing food culture its family friendly environment and amazing natural beauty the quality of life we have on offer is really unique the Atlantic seaboard has some of the most beautiful suburbs in the country with areas like Camps Bay and its world-renowned beach culture and the recent refurbishment of Seapointe promenade it's no wonder our neighborhood has such a global appeal after a long day of hard work there's nothing better than taking a walk along Clifton Beach sharing a moment and watching the sunset trying to offer something authentic to the community I'm not about reinventing the wheel just doing the classics really well and this is my neighborhood welcome to your next home this is a brilliant home for an independent single lady such as yourself oh missus that's nice and where's mister he'll be joining us later okay let me show you around this place is sporting all the best custom finishes and the tiles are important let me show you some more this is the perfect room if you're looking to expand the family you know what I mean I mean it's perfect as a kids room or a more playroom did you say playroom yeah playroom I've been very bad mr. Pallet so glad you could join us oh sorry I was a little tied up ah do you guys have a room for one more