 You're not up in Buffalo. The draft is like 24 hours away, Von. Where are you supposed to be shadowing Brandon being his left hand man? Yeah, I mean, that's my priority, but I think my rehab and getting right and making sure I'm able to play when the season starts is more of a priority. So I'm kind of, you know, juggling both. But if I got to pick between, you know, sitting in the world looking at draft picks or rehabbing my knee, you know, I'm sure Brandon won't want me, you know, here rehabbing my knees with. And we love to hear that. But I, you know, I heard that you were sizing up some of the guys not too long ago. I know, and we saw and you were spotted at the combine this year. So what's the biggest thing that you learned from that experience? I learned a lot. I learned so much. You know, it's not being a great GM. It's not just about drafting, you know, great players. You got to be a leader of men. You got to be able to really communicate throughout the whole organization from the janitors all the way up to, you know, the owner of the team. So we see the way Brandon being does it and to see the way other GMs do it. It was definitely a great experience to get their perspectives and to see it from that point of view. Are you getting into the year about DeAndre Hopkins or? You think about the thing about Brandon being, I don't have to really get out of his ear about anything. He's so in tune with the streets. He's so in tune with the free agents and what's going on and draft. You know, by the time I go and I talk to him about a player, he already talked to him and they already started working on stuff. So it's good to, you know, just to be around somebody that speaks the same language that you do. Now, Vaughn, you're saying he's already talked to them and the deal's already there. Are you trying to break news here that DeAndre Hopkins is headed up there with Stefan Diggs? No, I'm not breaking news for you right now, but there's definitely been conversations and we just got to figure it out. You know, it's one of those things, especially when it's my boys, you know, when it's especially like a Odell Beckham or, you know, DeAndre Hopkins, it's easy to get excited about those guys and of course you want them on your team, you know, but there's so many different elements to just, you know, there's so many different elements to really make it happen. You know, I feel like with Hopkins, we're in a good spot. We just got to win and see what happens. Winnie, I love that it's you and Brandon Bean taking on the world in this off season. Who would you like to see the Buffalo Bills bring into the building? I think, you know, for me, you know, sometimes relationships go a little bit further than anything else that's out there. That could be performance, that could be stats, that could be anything. You know, I don't really have a relationship with a lot of these guys that are coming out. I know Nolan Smith and I know the type of person that he is, super smart guy, comes from a great background, he's a leader, very, very tough, he's athletic. You know, to have opportunity to play with Nolan there and that would be super cool. That would be amazing. What is Vaughn Miller's role on this Buffalo Bill squad that needs to win a Super Bowl? I think first and foremost, you know, I got to be able to figure it out, get sex on me personally. I need to come back from this injury and be the same Vaughn if not better. I got to be, I got to really build on the success that I had last year. Had eight and a half sex through nine games and it's got to be two point out this season. I think that's first and foremost. Being a great leader and being a great teammate, all of those things are important. Being able to lead the young guys, of course working on my next career and trying to be the best team that I could possibly, all those things are important, but none of them match up to being the best football player that I could possibly on the football field and helping bringing this first and party to Buffalo. But now Vaughn, your job got a little harder with the past 24 hours or so, right? Cause as Deela gets done, bringing that man, the MVP Aaron Rodgers into the division, what do you make of that? I just tell them, it's Aaron Rodgers and that Jeff's team was already crazy before. They already, they're already competitive, you know, without Aaron Rodgers. Three defenses, one of the best defenses in the league. You got Quinn Williams and Psalms Gardner and you know, got great linebackers, CJ Mosley, man, they got a tough team. You know, they got Garrett Wilson is one of the best receivers already. Offensive line was injured, they didn't get some big time offensive lineback. Breece Hall was killing the lead, like they already had a tough team. They already had a tough team. I'm at peace though, because we have Josh Allen and we have Stefan Diggs and we have a great team as well. We've had a great team for a long time. So I'm all about playing great players, I'm all about playing great teams, not only the Jets, but the Dolphins are a great team as well. They're ready to go too. And New England Patriots are, you know, competitive and they got better as well too. So that's just the nature of the sport. You want to play against the great players. You want to play in the big time games. You want to have moments like this and that's what it's all about. And I'm excited for it. If you had to, you know, if you had to as a GM rank those quarterbacks, would you put at this point Allen over Rodgers? Yeah, right? I'm voting Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen. When do you think, tell me this, just because you've seen both of these quarterbacks, you've played against Aaron, you've watched him but you really saw Josh Allen up close and personal last year. Vaughn, what was the moment that you think he sort of took the torch? Maybe not from Aaron, but he joined all those elite quarterbacks at the top. I think he started that process before, like I even got here. I think, you know, the playoff games that he's had with Kansas City, I think, you know, on the big time Monday night games that he's had it, I think, you know, the success that he's had before I got here was a huge factor in that. But the very first game that we played versus the Los Angeles Rams, and you can see the way he played and what he took over that game, and stiff Army guys, ranked guys over, talking trash to guys. That's, that's when I like, I fell in love with Josh Allen. This is my quarterback. And then like I said before, sometimes relationships just are, sometimes relationships go a little bit further than performance or stats or whatever. Yeah. Measurement that you have to make the argument. And for me, man, I got a relationship with Josh Allen. And I'm gonna take Josh Allen over here by the end. Josh Allen over Aaron Rodgers. The internet's gonna go crazy over that, Ron. I'm sure it wouldn't be such a crazy argument. I think, you know what I mean? Really? I think it's, I think it's people, I think it's people that are seeing it both ways, but you know, I don't think it'd be too crazy. How was Josh Allen better than Aaron Rodgers? Oh, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say better. I'm just saying, you know, I'm picking Josh Allen. But Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers, they both do, they both do amazing things. You know, Aaron Rodgers has a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers has a Super Bowl. He's going to the Hall of Fame for sure. He's made a lot of people better. He's had teams, he's played on teams that weren't, that were not as talented. He had, he'd made those teams great. He took those teams deep into the playoffs. So it'd be interesting and it'd be, it'd be fun to see what he does with his super loaded, just maybe crazy. But you know, I'm just picking Josh Allen. That's my guy, Josh Allen. This is six year. This is six, this is six year, man. This guy's the limit for him. Football right now, he's never been more focused on football than he has been right now. And that's you, you got Patrick Mahon's been two Super Bowls and you know, Aaron Rodgers has one and Joe Barrow is on the trajectory to get one too. Josh Allen is a competitive dude. And he feels like he should be next. And I feel the same way and I'm gonna do, you know, whatever I can to make that happen. Well, he's lucky that you don't get to sack him. So that's one way. That's one win he has over Aaron Rodgers because I think some of these, at least three of these sacks that you need to get to Bruce Smith, which you're saying you don't care about, but I care about because I'm an NFL fan. I think a couple of them are being landed on the almost four year old quarterback. It's a flip the turf campaign and fans can help support the cause. They can, they can support the cause by signing a petition at pinnington.com slash flip the turf and there's all type of information about all the great things that they're doing. They already have 35,000 signatures on that petition. So it's out there and you know, all the help and all the awareness that we could get would be amazing. And we all saw what happened to you on Thanksgiving Day in Detroit, I believe. How are you feeling? I'm great. I really don't have, I don't really have any complaints. No, I play for a great team. Whenever I go in there and I'm around my teammates and my coaches and the cafeteria workers and the janitors and the front office people and you know, all the infrastructure that they have in Buffalo, man. It's, it's amazing, man. It's sunny every single day. I do what I can maximizing my days to really come back as strong and as fast as possible and as healthy as possible. And that's why I'm here. I've got the time to do it. So I'm advocating for player safety. Today with Pennington Flip the Turf campaign. We could steal some artificial turfs out. It's still some artificial grass fields out there. I got hurt on Thanksgiving. You know, it was, you know, injuries happen, but you know, to be heard and how, you know, the playing surface to be a factor, it's crazy. So, you know, I'm here to do what I can to make the game better. So let's say NFL, there's some NFL fans watching and they're like, the turf, did it really? If you were to make your pitch and you want to be a GM, so this kind of stuff is going to go up. You're making your pitch. You're in front of the NFL. Roger's sitting there. Pat, they're all, what is your pitch on changing this turf? They're all stadiums uniformly in the NFL. But they, I mean, they already know where I'm coming from and I get it. I can see it from both point of views. Like, I'm sure if we work with them, they'll work with us and there has to be a common ground to get it done. And we're not the only sports league that, that has made this change. We're trying to make this change. Soccer, they play on grass fields, wherever they go. When they come over here and they have to play on artificial turf, they lay grass over the artificial turf. So soccer is already doing it. And I don't see why the NFL can't be next. And we have the most powerful sports league in the history of mankind. So it's something that can get done. We just got to focus in on it and get it done. It's really powerful what you're saying. I've been, obviously many players are talking about it more and more and it's sort of a group that's come together. It's the flip the turf campaign. And fans, don't just let Von Miller's star power and his face leading the way. Like the way to make changes for fans to also make their voices heard. So we please, like we're asking you to fill out the campaign and get on it. And if you're a fan of Von Miller, Buffalo supports everything more than, will support a fan base in the NFL. Like, get on that, right, Von? Yeah, of course. And we got a great league. We got the most powerful, the best league in the history of mankind. Like the NFL is great. But there are still some things that can make it even better. So there we go. I appreciate you, Von. Thank you so much. And keep this good luck with everything you're doing. As always. Appreciate you guys. Thank you.