 but I think we should focus on that if there is any question in the audience so let me give you the mic thank you first I want to thank Irina for this great speech because well she started it with those two days focusing on the human dimension and I'd like to answer that it was great speech also in terms of the of what I felt I felt so many emotions because we can once again we can say about the Ministry of Culture about them operating and we can say that we can speak to this this ministry as to the partner so thank you for that and the question is you've presented so much data and some of them cause questions just just one number so you said there is over 1,000 museums including the museum headed by Vasily Grushko and they said about over 2,000 museums I understand that we have this Crimea and Donut situations but still I want I wonder why is there such a huge gap between this data and how should we get oriented in that data and how can we use it in order to build and rebuild the culture in Ukraine because as we said like this approach would be more evidence-based so I'll be brief these numbers are prepared are from the prepared register of the network of cultural institutions you know that for many years we've been talking about this register of cultural heritage we keep talking about it but we hope that this register will appear and then there will be different numbers so the numbers about the fund the resources and the collection is classified and we cannot expose that data today we have we have problems of this classified information and so these numbers are approximate and thank you for emphasizing that these numbers are approximate because it's not only hard to count culture in in general but even harder in Ukraine today the state statistical office stop together in the information until the war ends which puts us in the situation when we are disoriented about the those statistical numbers and the only thing we have is the taxes so that I mean the tax service tax authority gives us some numbers and we can see the decrease of the taxes paid by some cultural institutions for by 60% in the first quarter and based on that we can make some forecasts as for the number of cultural institutions indeed those numbers should be verified my question is also for Irina I really appreciate your speech because this is the first time that I face the ministry in such with such face if I can say that you've mentioned the binelli so as of February 23 when the project was the final stage and over 90,000 euros was spent on that by that time now no like no single dollar came to the accounts of binelli although the team was informed and aware of that well in advance and they were prepared for implementing this project and so I believe that the problems that can be easily justified by the war they are more structural for the ministry and they are not really related to the war does the ministry realize that this great image of this musical conductor with the sea that you've just described it's really far it was far from the war in fact yes this is this it is related to the system but only because the system is much bigger and it works and looks in a bit different way it has a player like the Ministry of Finance and the Culture Ministry trying to advocate the needs of the industry also faces some misunderstanding or as as mentioned was mentioned yesterday there's this prioritization and what how those priority priorities should be set is not clear and not understandable for us and yesterday the fellow colleague from Slovakia spoke about that management approach to the measurement to the count of profit from the culture is bad for culture but unfortunately the budget code of Ukraine is made in such a way that we should like count or measure culture in terms of finance performance as well that's why this fight for the budget is really bad for the culture and culture always loses there I don't know if anything's gonna change but I can say that you know culture is a complicated topic to discuss because it's huge and it's hard to see it because it's everywhere and when trying to talk about some material world world of ideas this is still the part of culture and we don't see those connections which cannot always be explained to decision makers including those financial decisions and so there's very this huge problem lies and the government poses a threat to the projects that are important for it and as for the human face of the ministry I've been working here for three months only as so I also have all the chances to get chances to get assimilated with the ministry we have two more questions I'd like to add to start with the question to Marsha if we're not talking about the sea and the musical conductor then what would the matter for be for me the trigger is what was discussed these days that Ukraine surviving and be and developing is kind of a mixture of horizontal connections where many agents took responsibility but you know as it was said when there's always this complaining for the person in charge who like is doing something wrong and doesn't realize doesn't understand what's going on so I think this question is open how these hypothetical business as usual before war didn't meet the needs of the requests of the cultural sphere and so if we don't change it now I think it will be much harder to change that later and coming back to this metaphor of the military force I can say that well I have a lot of friends in the military now and they say that army is also not it doesn't have the same structure there are but still they have the structure when there is this approval or order from someone from the top they value the life of a soldier and so those who are like down on this hierarchy they still have different they still still have this value of the human life and it's like that the commander in chief decides whether they should die or not but they still have some power and so this is for us to reimagine the structure it's the open question for me and I think that if not now there there's no other timing for that and so as for that matter for Masha what would be yours the black the matter well so it's fine we moved from the conductor musical conductor to the interstellar unfortunately we're out of time for questions so I think you can catch our speakers during the coffee break thank you for speeches I really enjoyed your idea of moving from sporadic support to the more strategical ones and I think that indeed we should work with this element of C and not just conduct it while it's possible