 The third force, how much impact could it have as we head towards the 2023 general elections? Who have the spokesman of the National Consultative Front join us this morning to see if the BDP and the OPC can be made to take the backseat. And how can Nigeria ensure next month's governorship election in Anambra State takes place without security heaps? A former director of the DSS will be taking us, we'll be talking to us about that. Governor of the QT State wants willing court members to be opted to help Nigeria safe. Good morning to you and welcome to the Breakfast on Plos TV Africa. It's a Thursday morning. We apologize for being just a few minutes behind time but of course the show must go on and we're here to of course keep you company for the next two hours plus. Thanks for joining us. I am Osao Ghee. And I am Masih Boko. All right, of course we start as always with top trending stories and of course to share with you some of the big discussions that are going on across Nigeria at the moment. One of them of course I'm starting with the governor of the QT State, Kaya Day Fiami, who made headlines across social media yesterday with some comments that he made asking that youth core members be recruited in the fighter gangs insurgency. He basically was saying that we need an extra about 200,000 people to join with our current security strength. And so we need to get youth core members to join in the fighter gangs insurgency, give them some militancy or militant training. And for those who do not want to take part then they should of course take part in community services instead and not be paid. So he says yes, if you're willing, if you're willing call member join the army or join in the fighter gangs insurgency, you get paid and those who don't want to get paid or who don't want to join would not get paid and some of all of that. Of course this created a lot of conversations across social media. A lot of people actually just laughed at it and said he must be joking. Definitely. Well, yeah, well he definitely must be joking but it's not the first time and this is what I'll say. It's not the first time that we've heard things like this. If you remember from my legacy government, Balaam-e-Tinibu had said this at his colloquium a few months ago where he said that Nigeria should recruit 50 million youths. I still remember that video very well. I mean, have you ever thought to yourself why the issue of security is in the exclusive list? And that's because it's a very sensitive issue. So you just can't just wake up and say let's recruit core members to become. It's a very sensitive issue. It's a profession. I mean, it requires a lot of training. It requires a lot. And where we are today, if you look at the security situation, we're still talking about the hashtag and SARS. And up until now all of the reforms have been called on. I mean, the fact that Nigerians are asking that the police force the reform. That hasn't really happened. And that's because we just have anybody and anyone in the police force. So, I mean, I had skin at this point in time where a lot of Nigerians are asking that, hey, we need to take a pause. We need to look at the security sector. We need to ensure that there's a reform. We can just wake up and just say let's recruit every and every other person. It's a very sensitive sector and it needs a lot of attention. I've always said, you know, that so a lot of times when we hear things like this, and it's not just from, you know, Coyote Fiammi, and this is from Lai Mohammed from Abu Bakr Malami, many of the persons in government today who speak on behalf of government, Femi Aditya Naivan, a lot of times, you know, I think from our number of say, Governor Peter will be said this also in an interview earlier this week where he said that Abu Bakr Malami, the Minister of Justice, you know, should think clearly before he speaks. You know, and you know, I've also, you know, thought to myself, a lot of times these people don't really put thought into some of the things that they say. They really just make a statement and go home and continue living their lives and don't really, really realize what exactly that statement means. And it's another example of a situation like that, where he's making such a statement. But the thing is, yes, I agree with you that we really need to stop making these knee-jerk reactions to solving issues in Nigeria. We need to understand where we have failed. And like you've mentioned, the police has continued to fail. Some of the things that we're dealing with concerning insecurity today are things that could have been handled by the police. We don't necessarily even need the army in every little, and it's not gotten so bad. In a single situation. Yeah, it's gotten so bad that we now have the army, and I'm going to refer to the Chuwetalawagu story. Those are things that the police can handle. If you think that the person is, you know, causing little, little bits of chaos here and there, or whatever it is, the police can handle that. You don't need the army at every single time to bring itself out. And so when we have a failed police system, we have a failed NSCDC, we have everything, basically that has been at its poorest level. That's when you start to hear ideas like this, or maybe we should recruit call members. We've not been able to take off the police, we've not been able to take off NSCDC. Now we want call members to join the fighting game. You know, in all of this is the fact that if you look at the security force and, you know, security architecture, cross-bord, you find that we have lost professionalism. And it would be really wrong for us at this point in time to be calling, you know, for recruiting anyone and anyone into the system. That's not the way out. Nobody, nobody is going there. I don't think there's any call member, you know, across the whole country. I don't think there's anyone living and breathing that will willingly join the fight against insurgency. Even if you force call member, I don't think there's anyone, there's even less call members willing to go to the north to serve, talk less of the ones that you've now sent to the north and that they're not going to teach now. They're instead going to carry, you know, small cutlasses or small weapons to go join the fight against insurgency. It's not even going to happen. But I'll quickly say that yes, you know, we might not like, you know, that idea here, but I know that in China, you know, and I read somewhere, let me quickly share this. It says 75 countries around the world have some form of compulsory military training or national service for their citizens. Mandatory military service in South Korea and Singapore last for at least two years. While the majority of these countries only conscript men, there are, you know, about six other countries, Israel, North Korea, Retria, Tunisia, Morocco, and Mali and some others that constrict men and women. So it's not, you know, an alien idea or alien concept. You know, there's other countries that do these things. And some of these countries, it is compulsory that you have some military training. But those countries aren't necessarily doing it to fight insurgency. You know what? It's like, you know, trying to, you know, move away from a particular step. I mean, you can just be born as a baby and then the next thing you expect that you start working is that talking. And there's a process. Let's even talk about the entire police force. There's a lot of work that needs to be done. There's, I mean, I think we need to overhaul the entire system, a total reform. So we can be asking that, yes, let's start training some part. Let's get it right first from the basics. And if we can get it right from the basics, then we can start thinking about incorporating, you know, that into our institutions and ensuring that you have young lads having, you know, all of that training. Not going to happen in the next. Anyways, moving away from that now, let's also talk about, we're going to talk about this particular one. I call it very, it's a very sad incident. It's a situation where you have a hundred level students who committed, who killed themselves, committed suicide, however, and that happened where he burnt himself. It's really, really sad. We'll definitely go to bring you that video in no time and then we'll talk about it. Although you have it and this happened in a university in Anambra State. I believe where an undergraduate student committed suicide, he apparently had acts of friend of his for 200 naira to buy something and apparently bought some petrol, took it to the room and set himself on fire. And, you know, according to the report, it's been reported that he was stressed. That's what he said. He said he was stressed and then he killed himself. Now this is what I will say. The support system, the family is a major support system and it's high time the family begins to pay attention. Now when we talk about family, we're talking about, you know, the nuclear family, we're talking about the extended family. I really don't know because gradually we're beginning to lose, you know, humanity. So it's time that, you know, the support system, first of all, we call on the family. We call on every other support system, the church, you know, the mobs and every other support system around. But majorly, it's the family. And then I think that, you know, the culture of we not being very honest ourselves, because we need to begin to understand, maybe we need to begin to let people know that feeling it's okay, it's okay to fail. Because we have a situation where you have your parent, you have your father, mother tell you, in my days, I ate all my cusses. I had all bees, I had all seas. And so that's also could also necessarily be a pressure. So you're in school and then because dad and mom said they ate all their cusses, you can't afford to have, you know, F's and D's and what have you. And so because of all of that. But however, it could be, you know, it could be beyond that. It could be academic pressure. It could be whatever pressure. But I'm thinking that, you know, the support system needs to be functional, up and running so that you can actually, it goes beyond making resources available sometimes. It goes beyond providing, but we need to be there emotionally for our kids and every other person around us. I agree, you know, that the pressure on students needs to be reduced. But we find ourselves in the society where parents themselves are dealing with their own levels of stress. And so they're sending you to school sometimes, with every single penny that they have to ensure that they pay school fees, to ensure that you at least get the education that you seek. And so they don't want to hear any excuses as to why you didn't perform well enough. To be honest, this may not even be educational stress. It might be stress won't be many, many other factors. That's exactly what I'm saying. And, you know, that's something that we also need to have conversations about as young Nigerians, what kind of pressure is a hundred-level students being under? It definitely cannot be because it's failing. You're at a hundred-level. That's the truth now. The unfortunate incident, like I rightly mentioned, is the fact that, I mean, he's no longer here. And that's really, really sad. Because when you don't have the person who actually suffered this to be allowed to tell the story, it becomes difficult. So it leaves room for a lot of speculation. What could he be? Could he be academic pressure? Could he be whatever pressure? What would he be needing? That's why I'm saying that, hey, it's important. As much as we know that, yes, we live in a society where it's quite difficult to provide all of those resources and all of that, cater for our kids. But it's also important that we pay attention. And sometimes it doesn't really require money. I would really like to understand what a hundred-level student, what kind of stress a hundred-level student is going into. You never can tell. And I hope it's not stress financially because a lot of his mates are buying cars and being able to spend money that he doesn't have. And I'm hoping that's not what it is. Maybe. I hope it's also not courtism related. You're at a hundred-level. You're in the first year of university. What kind of stress can you possibly be dealing with at that level then? I mean, if you can't deal with a hundred-level stress, what are you going to deal with when you're in your third year or in your fourth year? So I remember the time where... And it's not the first time. We've had people taking, you know, that... So I'm thinking that, you know, it's high time. If this is already happening in our universities, what are universities doing? Are we also having some form of, you know, counseling or what have you, prohibition to... I'm sure you know the answer to that. I'm sure you know the answer to that. All right, a final trend in the story this morning we'll just quickly rush through it is Euroboundation Agitator, Sunday Bohol, news report yesterday from his lawyer. One of his lawyers, Yomiya Liu, stated that he has fallen sick in prison in the Benet Republic. Apparently he was rushed to the hospital according to the lawyer. And of course his diagnosed with either kidney or long failure. And that was the report yesterday. If you, of course, remember that he has been held in captivity in the Benet Republic for, you know, more than, you know, this is about two months now since all this started. And you know, it seems like his health might be failing. And there's also reports that, you know, he might have injured himself, you know, while he was, while his house was attacked or some, you know, some of all these extra, you know, stories here and there. But of course these are all conspiracy theories that I'm sure that... He's also demanding that he would like to seek medical attention. Yeah, abroad. Or France. I mean, he's very precise with all of that. But would you blame him? Because it feels like that's the pattern for us. You see our leaders seeking medical attention outside. Maybe we do not have what it takes here in Nigeria to cater for his health. Or does that saying this could just be another trick, you know, to get away? Yeah, there is that. You know, but I'm also concerned about, you know, how, what this really means. You know, if his health is failing and for any reason whatsoever, he dies in a prison in Benet. And of course I hope that that never happens. You know, what does that really mean and where do we go from there? You know, with the Eurobidination agitating. And, you know, with the whole political, you know, aspect of some of all of this. And is this, you know, a strong enough reason for him to maybe be set free and allowed to go back home to Nigeria to answer for some of the questions that the Nigerian government is asking. Or maybe be allowed to go to Germany. I don't think the Benet Republic government will allow anybody just like to Germany for medical treatment or medical... I don't think that that's how it happens. But of course we wish him well. I mean, we hope that of course he remains strong. And, you know, it does come back to Nigeria as quickly as possible. Or, you know, you know, as fate will have it, whatever it is that the Benet Republic government feels he deserves, you know, he gets it. All right, those are our top trending stories this morning. Stay with us when we come back. Aziz Kel Nyayitak will be joining us as always for Off the Press, where we have a review of the major stories making headlines across Nigeria this morning. We want to once again.