 Good morning once again and welcome back to why in the morning how you have had a beautiful lady called Michelle she hosted Tabitha she was Tabitha as she was some lady good lady talking about agribusiness nice stuff i love listening to ladies who work hard and before we had morning google so we started this day on a very bright and as we had informed you today is international chocolate day so we are going to discuss something about chocolate i don't know why chocolate is associated with love we are going to all demystify that i don't know why the first about chocolate the value of chocolate how it started why chocolate why not other foods it's chocolate food we are also going to know that but now i'm joined by very very very very beautiful ladies here we're going to help us know about chocolate and other gifts and why gifts and all that so you're going to introduce yourself hi good morning hi good morning yes your name please my name is Priya Meja yes uh who are you what do you do your social media handles i just give us a full introduction i am a student at Karatina university taking bachelor of science in nursing i also act in films i write books i do graphic design and that is all about me facebook at priya meja instagram prayer underscore meja why are you called prayer my mom tells me that i was i am her answered prayer oh are you the only child in your family or something well she just wanted a girl no and now the major measures your dad or something no all of them are my names oh yes oh both pray and measure your names yes they are beautiful names thank you if you could see the names on social media people use oh but delicious oh what what what you let me chase you what but on your facebook you still use prayer meja yeah it's prayer meja oh that's nice thank you you're welcome to 854 hope you'll enjoy the conversation and you'll help us demystify all about this yes sure ah we have another beauty here yes yes morning morning yes my good name is Ouna Roslin Halai i'm a student at Karatina university passing bachelor of arts in criminology criminal justice in public safety i'm a detective to be which level are you finally a student actually finished my coursework three days ago now painting attachment and graduation come end here inshallah so right now you can detect the criminals in this room well i can do that after all they you can identify criminal from physique from how they are you are created or how they behave how they are created yeah basing on cesare rombroso's theory of criminology we have different types of criminals and have you identified one have you seen somebody in this room who looks like a criminal i sense that uh nishel rishel who hosted the last show looks like a criminal what do you think uh she's a good lady she's not a criminal maybe we need to collect some intelligence to find out because nowadays criminals are sharp maybe they are think so well and most instance is interestingly people believe that ladies are not criminals and most men are the criminals what is your perception it's a fallacy oh ladies are also criminals ladies in fact they are the most criminal because no one thinks they can be so they take advantage of that i read a story yesterday where a lady robbed a man two ladies robbed a man they were they were going for photoshoot so this guy had his camera and everything so these ladies post us as uh as clients so when they went into the bush these two ladies robbed this camera man this camera man or miss everything and they went so i wonder why things are changing things are not changing but the story is interesting because they were going for a photoshoot in the bush so this is not one in two ladies interesting okay let's get into the conversation of this day yeah i'm happy i have two of you both of you are ladies why chocolate why chocolate why do you prefer chocolate why do you want to be given chocolate and not uh from each part of this country do you come from western from western kia and you was in gishu county was in gishu county so why not ugali because i know you guys prefer ugali and why not mursi let's start with this chocolate chocolate in its sense when you put chocolate in your mouth it melts the same way when a guy gives you chocolates it just melts your heart it has that effect you feel good and it is also sweet so it is just an edible and edible demonstration of love yes so it's just that feeling that associated don't we have another thing that can sink like that that can melt like that in the mouth no no chocolate is exclusive those of us who grew up in the village if you could afford to buy a lady a whole kin like sugar cane like where i come from there are a lot of sugar cane so if you could buy a whole sugar cane for a lady that was so romantic what do you think what do you think these were uh them days like that was kitambo right now i think uh things have changed and most of us in fact in uh now group of 10 uh nine people would love chocolate as compared to any of those cheap village thrills tell me your story about chocolate like why do you think people prefer chocolates i think people prefer chocolate to or should zero into ladies why ladies prefer chocolate we prefer chocolate i prefer chocolate because chocolate is sweet many other things are sweet but uh chocolate has uh some kind of value and mostly uh in the world of romance or when these are two people who are in love would prefer chocolate because um chocolate in itself having so many sugars or a high glycemic index stimulates uh some pleasure it gives you a mood a happy mood because it's uh after this food so having a high glycemic index i mean when you just take chocolates you feel much better and like when you take sweets or you take me to roll music or uji and you want me to compare chocolate number six like who is but chocolate yes it's you want to compare me one a chocolate one has a sheba one has a kula chocolate to lalaya zillion one has a umetumi as easy kula chocolate nilali although it's a first kaba hide it it gives energy but speaking of value you said chocolate has some value but the way chocolate has a lot of value because i'm told i did some research about chocolate i was told that for you to make one bar of chocolate you need like the seedlings of koko like 4 000 of them and you know one tree produces around just around 25 000 so for a whole tree in a season you can produce roughly not even more than a hundred chocolate bars so it is expensive it's expensive yeah it's very expensive why do you guys like associate yourself with expensive gift like must a gift be expensive must some gift be expensive for okay let me reframe it this way must there be a big value in a gift for you to feel that you are really loved no no not really uh the expansiveness doesn't matter it is the heart that gives that matters and in the context you're giving a what's the meaning of the gift oh that's what matters a lot so i can give you the cheapest gift on this one but it means a lot it can just mean a lot why do what do you think prayer personally i think when you give an expensive gift not according to the amount of cash that you have but according to what you can afford if you can afford to give me a beema why should you give me something that is not expensive you know whatever you value you're going to invest your time your energy and your resources and your resources in it so if you are you're able to afford something good i don't see the reason for settling for less uh so the the higher the better the higher the gift the better it is don't you think that is materialism because you girls you girls have been have been accused of being materialistic can you defend yourselves it is not being materialistic in any sense and i just appreciate the fact that somebody you value you give something that is good so it's not about materialism or anything just the value you put on somebody yes if you value somebody you'll sacrifice anything for them rose you've been accused you girls have been accused of being too materialistic you commercialize love you attached love to material things of this world when love is no tangible defend yourself and defend the girl child being a lawyer of a girl child i want to defend myself first it is an accusation and it's an allegation and people should come to terms with the fact that uh different people are different and being girls we all have like uh different ways of you know taking staff and understanding our perspectives on different things we have those girls who would value the fact that you are coming addressed well expensive gifts taking them nice places nice restaurants and we have ladies who would not want you to do that just to win them or uh because you think girls like expensive things so you are coming inexpensive or looking expensive so that to win them there are some girls who really like someone who is real and genuine and like striving to uh be expensive because they say girls like expensive things so you think you may end up being liked with a lady because or maybe uh how you are closing but don't you think you because i was taught when i was young that you should not take gifts from strangers so you should start taking gifts when you have started dating you were talking of like you should uh you can allow me in your heart if i give you a gift it's not bribing should i bribe you should i bribe you for you to to be my girl should i bribe do you consider that bribing it is absolutely not bribing it all depends with your love language so if you give a gift to somebody whose love language is gifting that person will will feel loved yes uh tell me in uh like one to five what you would prefer to be given as a gift as a lady by your boyfriend or by your husband i would prefer to be given a genuine intention as a gift one genuine intention will come to that too number two i'll uh prefer someone who is real with me someone who is true to self you are so virtual with your gifts you are not getting to material i know what you are a party we don't want you to call you material this six so that is what you are expecting do you want to reach three or how much can you how many can you count okay in terms of uh material i would like someone to gift me with something they really hold dear or something they value to them or something they have established i really need for example in my birthday what i tell my friends i'll tell my friends if you want to gift me find something that i don't have then and i really want it then gift me that you cannot be gifting me a tie and i have more than 100 ties it's not going to help if i need a shoe maybe i have two or three you can add one it will make sense oh just give me money as gift so that i get what i want i really don't want to get to your much about your personal life but now that you've mentioned a tie the photo that we got that used to make a poster you had a tie now you had that you have a tie and a coat you you dress like a real decent office lady or semi casual or semi official and something about it before we get back to what we're talking about today okay about dressing yes it really describes your attitude and gives you the mood of how you feel sometimes when i wake up uh i don't just like plan a day before that i'll dress like this when i wake up the mood of the day is the one that i'll carry for and probably that's how i dress just to feel nice about so you are not always like this i'm not always like this sometimes in dresses not really dresses no you don't do dresses rarely i i can't remember oh the last time i had a dress that story for another day that story for another day yeah so prayer we are into you your preference of the gifts my preference of the gifts uh first i'd love i love chocolates so your chocolate girl this is your day can you bring me chocolates you have it all i i also so people want you you know what to do you don't you know what to do with prayer yes i i i i also love roses i love flowers yes this one he is called rose i don't know why she's my friend you also love roses i don't think i love roses i i love lilies abogan villa oh but i love flowers you love you both flower you love flowers both of you yeah okay now tell me why it is very rare because i did my research for ladies to gift men why it is sitting out the other way around why are you just a single why are you just about receiving receiving receiving because it's rare it's rare for a lady to gift upon accusation defend yourself defend the girl's head i don't think it's rare it's just that we are not fond of uh gifting at an early age of a relationship most ladies would gift uh we not give their boy gift their boyfriend but would gift their husband that means uh ladies are not easy to give when they really are not sure whether they're investing in they don't like betting we're not risking you are not risking it we're not gambling yes i need to fit a place okay so it is possible so the one of this thing is perception like what you are telling us with criminology it's about perception that ladies don't give it is just a notion it's just a perception let's get to you do you remember the last time you gifted somebody with something yes what did you give i i am sorry but i bought a suit oh when was that very expensive taxi i've never been bought for myself fortunate oh that's interesting you're special but i've never gifted any other expensive gift largely uh when did you do this it was sometimes back in second year when was that 2019 2018 so the last time you gifted was 2019 what you gifted somebody was 2018 2018 end year end year is and when were you gifted last you when you have been gifted recently with a friend so it's like that was just investment you've been paid severely no the person who gifted is the person who gifted me recently okay prayer gifted me oh so it's not now we were talking about gifting girl to man oh girl to man girl to his to her man to her man hey not separately so what you are saying is true what you are saying is true that you guys rarely in your story we are coming back we are coming to you after her it's true that you guys like from now the typical example we have here everybody watching that you guys rarely gift no we gift we gift we just don't bet we gift when appropriate so right now there's no appropriate person to gift yeah there's no appropriate person to gift oh in terms of parts that that is but friends anytime any day men watching you had two things that one rose doesn't have somebody to gift and two and the two that she can gift a jet she can give something as big as a jet so do you are doing what did you say your social media handles her your facebook own a rose yeah now you know where to find that lead where to find tell us your story uh do you think ladies don't gift i think it all depends with how the gift is received by the man when you gift a man for the first time and he does not appreciate and he makes it feel as if you have done absolutely nothing trust me i would attempt no you are making us like we are becoming a bunch of ungrateful beings a man like that they are some of them do not appreciate at all yes they think you are obligated to give to them yes why no it's rare for men to do that for ladies to do that for men now when they do don't you think we will be work wow oh it will be plastic i talk one like okay why are you giving me this okay what do you want you don't want any bribe just gifting them and by the way see you are that way you are if you do something like you DM in the morning you say oh hi baby boy how did you wake up the next thing that will come to my mind is so you do it with intention so for you it's not easy to do because when you do it uh it's not appreciated enough it all depends if you appreciate it the first time i will do it continuously oh if it is not appreciated i will stop prayer when last i have master's you what i asked trust when last did you gift a man when last did i gift a man or have you ever gifted a man we should start from there have you ever gifted a boy child yes oh yeah when last and what was it i think we are concealing because you you want to name him we are concealing the path that should be concealed with us the path that should be covered that should not be revealed so when was this the last time i gifted was last year 2020 yes at the middiest of corona pandemic yes what was it it was a notebook what an executive notebook how much was it how much was it how much was that how much was that it was extensive i'm not booked yes how come i'm not booked be expensive it can you attach a value to it please i can i monitor the value to it it all depends you don't the person loves so you discover this this guy loves and he loves writing or writing yes so and that was 2020 have you checked if it is now filled up so that you bring another one yes i have checked and i'm i'm going to buy another one this week oh yes so you are going to be miss notebooks to this to this one don't you think you will be you will be monotonous i'll i'll change yes i'll change with time when i when i get more money i can't even buy for a guy a vehicle a vehicle yes a good machine what do you think rose well but mazing i'm happy you're calling it gifting and betting but you were the people who like statistics i love research the people who work out of relationships most of them are ladies so if there's something about betting then it is man betting because you are the we need you more charge like need you out of relationships so do we say that if every time i give you gift i gift you then i'm betting i'm gambling me think uh because guys like betting and of course if you don't hit me right i'll walk away so the person who triggers lady to walk away is the man or if they're not having peace of mind in the relationship sometimes you just come to realize that this relationship is not working then you have to make sure you do something about it then if it doesn't work at the end there's no way to sing someone along for too long so you better walk away i want to see the value attached you attach to your gifts like material gifts that are not consumed or even consumable we can even get back to chocolate is there a way you treat that gift in a way like you can walk into a shop buy yourself chocolate and eat now if you are gifted this chocolate is there a way you treat it that makes it a gift that gives it value or shows that you value the person who gave it to you and uh let's even get to dress because i was i read somewhere i was doing as i was doing research to this show i chocolate became number 35 of the preferred gifts that ladies want people prefer like things like pyjamas some types of shoes i think it dresses i think it depends on also on the country but i think the kenyan lady prefers money why if i'm not wrong get back to that let us finish with how you treat these gifts now how do you treat gifts that you've been given by a loved one is there a special preference you give to it on handling keeping like the dress that you've been given when do you wear it how do you keep it and all that yeah of course um for me if you gift me beta chocolates a dress stores i should or anything uh first i'll believe it's symbolic like the gift you're giving is symbolic for love care um happiness or in appreciation of something i've done something good you're congratulating me gifting me so of course if i'm gifted by a loved one i'll hold the gift so dear to me i'll keep it well and i'll make sure i appreciate the fact that you have gifted me you have acknowledged what i've done then you have gifted me you probably have done well in some projects then you want to make sure you appreciate me in a nice way you buy me something that i like i won't miss you sit in fact if you come to my house i'll have put it somewhere the best corner in my house you'll find it there then if it's something to wear i'll put it on and especially mostly when i'm with you it shows appreciation because and it's very wrong to give away a gift is it true it's very wrong we will get to that we will get to that tell me your story about how you handle special gifts given to you by your mother how i handle gifts yes personally i i always am very emotional when i when i get gifts oh yes you must at salia you must shed tears yes wow so i i usually take care of the tears of joy you just remember something bad that happened not something bad they are just tears of joy like you shed tears at the same time you smile yes like i am so overwhelmed by the kindness of this person so that gift whatever it is whether it is chocolates a dress or a phone or anything i take care of it very well if it is a dress i only wear it on special occasions i just wear it and i take care of it and i do not give away gifts oh yes what will you do if you find me with a shirt you bought for me you find my friend wearing a shirt you bought for me i will be very mad at you i hope you're also not doing that like you given chocolate and maybe you don't donate it to me i can share it's good to share gifts it's not good to share gift but if you gift me a chocolate that i'm with my friend i will share out of kindness yeah because even cakes given but you can't consume it it alone because it was bought by you or whatever they found the characteristics of kenyan girls needing to be gifted with money tell me something about it for you something expensive and what you can tell me so you can pay to your person so i pay you and you can rent i will pay like i am 20 years old i will pay you what is it with you kenyan girls and man hey mantri kitu ya kwaaza pesa tu ni mzuru hee pesa tu na i dad kiki na kunu na ma balun miakumi hii rini peyodo takiku kanja kuna hii kukanda uko nazi zizi anyway most of the people say nge ni peyo pesa weni it is something that really doesn't make sense lihiyu bought me a lot of balloons like hundred of them it doesn't make sense you can buy 3 4 5 and then the rest buy something substantial Afriwa senti Tikini How should you say it? Educator, boyfriend is watching. Educator is like, how should we frame this question? Okay, you've said, from your part you've said it's right to ask, but intelligently. Do you think it's right to ask, Ros? It's right to ask if you cannot study and get to know your girlfriend well. Do you love surprises? But some surprises, manzze, they can't go wrong. So make sure you're banned. If I give you a surprise that maybe I think you need and you don't think you need, like I don't think you are reading nice or you make grammatical mistakes, then I give to you a dictionary. You can reject my dictionary. If I know you are wrong with English, you are off with English. Then I buy you a broad new dictionary and say, surprise! Can you reject a gift even if it's not wet for you? You can reject, you can stand firmly in face of your manzze. Thank you, but this one no. I love it when you have said opinions. Tell us why you can reject and how you can do it. So you have realised my grammar is not okay. Then there is a nice way to do that. Then you thought of a dictionary. Then you brought it. For me at that particular time, maybe I don't understand why a dictionary. Why a dictionary? So come out on English. I have a problem with that. At least I am saying, hey babe, can you watch Willis the English Master? I will bring those types of discussions. We can learn some really good news from him. Then we will watch together. You don't have to go to the bookshop, come with a dictionary. I mean, kwa wise, yeah. That doesn't necessarily mean that if I give you a dictionary, then your grammar is wrong. Maybe you just want to base it on what you want. Yeah, I just want to maybe to be to you. I want to be to you. I want to be to you. I want to be to you. You say that you cannot reject any gift. I cannot. Give it some flesh. Personally, before somebody thinks of gifting you with a particular thing, I will give you a background study and I will sacrifice to give you that. So when somebody brings your gift and you say no, that will be a big blow first on his self esteem and he will also think that hakuna kitu amefanya and the worst thing you want from your man is to demoralize him. Sosa uta fanya aji. But you guys even go to an extent of rejecting a proposal. Do you think there is a bigger heartbreak than that? Like I organized like now with my work mix here and then maybe I invite you for a show you're my girl and then I propose in front of TV. Then you say no. Just do that. And that is the first way I tell you. You need to make inquiries. Atakati katia jokes you ask if I propose, will you accept me? Because maybe you cannot come and propose to me when I'm not even sure we're going to get married and I'm not ready. I'll definitely say no. What if you just accept then kind of say I didn't want to embarrass you. But this is badokidogo. This is badokidogo because it is wrong to embarrass somebody in front. I have seen away somebody organized a very flamboyant proposal venture. And then the lady said no and things went haywire. Like everybody was there the mood really under two of. They mood really under two of. But now we are almost finishing. Now I want you to tell me about gifting in kind. What do you think? Like now not material things you were the one who started it like maybe gifting with a treat or gifting with things that are non-material. What do you think about it? It makes more sense to give someone non-material because at the end of the day you're not going to regret if anything happens maybe between the two of you. I think different people and this is the reality gift because there's a drive that makes them to do so. There's an urge that makes them to think of gifting you probably someone might gift you because they think by gifting you because it's a love language they bring you closer to them and some people will gift you because they think they are obligated as maybe your partners. So gifting in kind you will not end up saying people say a lot of stuff even on social media something has happened you guys are breaking up and there's a lot of shit going on everyone is talking about how they did this they are regretting you have invested your feelings resources and everything and it's not going to work out some people even force others to marry them when they don't want when it's not something they want because they paid their school fees people have done a lot in the name of love sorry to them because I don't think I can do I'm not sure prayer tell us something about gifting in kind can you love it? lady who loves gifts and receives them with a lot of appreciation and emotion you are romantic so tell us about gifting you in kind if something that is non material maybe just a treat I think gifting in kind is very good because it helps strengthen your relationships for example when a guy gives you his attention his affection his time when he's just there giving you non material stuff and being there for you emotionally you're able to build your relationships as you can be able to connect more deeper than a person who just comes brings you a gift and go comes brings you a gift and goes so you're able to connect at a personal level understand each others differences and you're able to move forward and make the relationship better look on point though you sound like you already have somebody it's inuit it's inuit that you have you already have somebody in your life so can I have your you should advise men your closing remarks advise men on how they should gift what they should gift you be prepared for that let's start with you prayer personally men gift your girlfriends ensure you give them gifts lazima oh oh then material materialistic no gift them it shows that you love them two gams two girls jari butters kumoja mami nunulie ataka mani tai or something ataka mani just a pen and so you gift him it shows that you care yes both ladies and gentlemen gift each other appreciate each other the small wins you make either personally or as a joint union as lovers ensure you gift each other you appreciate each other in the best way that they would love be sensitive while giving or gifting na madem atu gifting is ana lakin itu jari but don't betz ana kama ozaziko ju my friend is asking if it is right to receive a gift from a stranger no no no gifting through apare and tora sibling like I want to gift you then I give you a mum to bring for me then he says receive this from kaisu I'll appreciate oh you I'm not sure if you pass through my mum I'll not be sure of your intentions you will be able to see that I am late that must be about you about a stalker who just sending a gift and you don't know who is in fact, stalking is a crime I cannot be gifted by a criminal the fact that you are stalking me criminal is here again it can't be to you now that we are not criminal I'll be suspicious definitely it's unknown it's coming from most of the people maybe he wants to kill me thank you the Karatina duo for coming I'll have to visit Karatina one day because it looks like a good place really good place to be and it's in Nyeri and both of you from the western part of Kenya it looks nice it's at the foot of Mount Kenya so the view is amazing you will invite us one day I've never set my eyes on Mount Kenya you will help me see Mount Kenya when I come to Karatina University you can see it right from the gates or any point of the university the beautiful top of Mount Kenya because we are just located next to the Mount Mount and the Mount Kenya is looking all nice studying in Karatina is a plus because you become an adventurer this year won't end before I go to Karatina University and see Mount Kenya we had a very fruitful discussion with the duo from Karatina that is prayer and rose names alone wow wow they are very beautiful very beautiful ladies had on set today and we had fruitful from experience from everything everything was nice so now you know that today is international chocolate day so if you have a lady they have said that they love roses they really love roses so not rose but chocolate they really love chocolates for your lady today because today international chocolates day we leave it there for now thank you for watching and thank you for being with us thank you for your attention everybody who are behind the camera the production team everybody who has made this possible thank you very much and we are coming back to see you off just to tell you bye may God bless you and thank you till we meet in the next segment salute you can wave