 You know what you're getting a late here No fancy hair stuff in or anything just kind of chillin on a Friday night. It is April 15th 2022 we still have no idea when summer game fest is coming We still have no idea when the next indie world is happening because Nintendo is a little overdue on that No idea when Nintendo is gonna start any more campaigning for games besides Nintendo switch sports They obviously had a preview Previews dropping this past week. So that's cool But obviously Nintendo news has been extremely dry over the last few days Which happens there's usually a lull before a storm of news comes Don't know when the storm is gonna begin might not have until May might not happen till June It's going to probably be a little bit. So we're gonna have to be patient now that being said Welcome to the live stream. I'm gonna shout out everybody here in the chat here in a moment We are doing a bit of a special stream tonight You can call in To the stream if you would like all you have to do is follow us on discord and then DM me with whatever You know, let me know whatever you want to talk about or debate or ask questions about And I only require that you have headphones. Okay, please have headphones. So we cut down on any possible echo And yeah, that should that should that should about do it for that I really don't care how old you are really don't care about any of that Obviously if you're being inappropriate, I will just end the call and kick you out of the Stream because that would just be stupid to allow it to happen I remember we do not debate politics or religion or any of that kind of stuff So if those are the kind of topics you're going to get into We will just end the call because that is not what this channel is for or what this channel is about now A few other things. I want to know we are doing shots as always for our night streams You know from super chats You can also with the super chat request that I play Nintendo music. I don't really care what kind of music You know what I Don't really care that much you can request any song you want We'll take on the copyright claims and all that it it is what it is tonight You know, I kind of hate the copyright claims take away a lot of the fun. You're in live streams So whatever request whatever sign you want. I'm not really going to care That being said There is another thing we're going to do tonight after we're done taking calls or whatever Obviously, we have a normal Q&A you guys don't have to call in to ask questions. You do it right there in the chat But one thing I'm going to be doing is is Using my audience to farm for ideas What ideas are that video ideas During this dry period of news and obviously would be nice if I had a giant list of ideas That we could possibly create content around so instead of me being the only person who's just in a brainstorm by myself I thought the best way to come up with a bunch of them like 30 plus video ideas would be hey, let's actually like Collaborate on this and figure out what the best ideas would be especially during dry news periods So, yeah, that should be good. Now. Did I dye my hair? No, I did not dye my hair Nice try though, but no, this is this is not this is not died This is my natural hair color Now there could be a lighting thing in here as an example. We got some you see this like purple light thing over here We got like lighting that could be coming in and affecting the tint of my hair So I wouldn't say that this is like what it actually looks like in person This is just how the camera interprets it. It's like closer to the camera someone that tint goes away So anyways, let me show everyone who's here in the chat and then we'll get this the shindig going So we got sweet life of Dio Brando here, how's it going Logan LeBlanc is here escurry 22 Charles Trudell is here. We have a member and moderator here in Brian C. Did you get married today? What the hell are you doing at my stream, dude? I thought you just got married. I Feel like the last thing you should be doing is watching my live streams Welcome white umbrella. How's it going? We have another member here in e prime if I Let's see here Kailin is here scrolling down. We have another member here in did the did the did the did the Don Lewis, how's it going buddy? We have baby chicken wing is here sweet life of Dio Brando is here Scrolling down my list. We got yanko. Hinds is here. Joycey. Jay is here. How's it going? Christopher Colazo Javier Nunez amity wolf Let's see here scrolling down quacky Chan is here. How's it going? Yallonk 86 escurry 22 I see some questions in already guys Wait until I ask for them because I'm not gonna go over them right now Nintendo friends forever Avengers assemble. How's it going guys? Let's see here Cindy SS and Joshua Rivera another couple members are here. Welcome guys. I think that's it I think that I think that's everyone at least who said something in the chat. All right so Remember if you want to call in all you got to do is join our discord server so you can DM me I thought easier than maybe I'm like, oh, hey, let's uh exchange our little discord friend names and all Join the discord server. It's a public discord server. You want to leave after the call you can leave It's not like there's any pressure for you to stay on my server, but it's a quick click a link and join Logan walk says Logan the block. Yeah, you can call him buddy. All you have to do is DM me on on I'm Discord and let me know when you're ready and all you got to do is have some headphones and We could we can get you on the show if you want buddy I'm just double checking my settings on discord because I know my voice is set to a different microphone. We're gonna Change that sounds good. All right All right, I don't not do not using Google voice not using Google voice I Don't think there's anything wrong using discord if it is if joining a discord server is too many steps Then you really don't want to call it Let's see here All right. We have our first caller coming in Logan the block. Let me get my headphones on here and Give him a call Well, hold on we have a super chat first year from Yolank 86 for the $5 Thank you so much. You like says cut cut the standing on the raft looking at your face in the end We had lost a fellow sailor Your new bow was too heavy to float Well, you know what's funny about that if you're like overweight you actually float better It's like the opposite fat floats It's like the more muscular you are and the less fat you have the easier your body sinks the more fat you have the easier It is float anyways um Let's uh get this call started with Logan Hey, Nate. Can you hear me? Hey, buddy. How's it going? Love Nate. All right. How are you? Good. How are you Nate? I'm alive and kicking this Friday Sweet So I had one question Nate. Yes So summer games fast. Do we see Mario movie content? And if we do do we get a new game with it? No, no, I don't think we're seeing the Mario movie at summer game fest in general So without that we're obviously not gonna get a new game announcement now I personally know that Nintendo's announcing a new Mario game this year anyways But that's obviously my personal opinion I don't think they're gonna show up the movie too closer to the September Yeah, we already know when it's coming out in theaters so they're not really in a rush Yeah, oh, thanks for taking my call, Nate. Yeah, no problem. Thanks for calling him All right. Well, that was that was Logan the block. Thank you so much for calling in Uh, it's that easy guys. You don't have you can be on that quick. You can be on a bit longer if you want Um, it's all good Um Nintendo friends, uh forever Avengers assemble says do you think Mario Odyssey 2? Came comes in 2022 with Mario and the Mario movie. You think the Mario Odyssey 2 comes in? No, no Now look, I don't work at Nintendo So it's not like I have inside knowledge But what I can say Is this? I don't think Mario Odyssey 2 is happening because if we were going to get Mario Odyssey 2 We would have already had Mario Odyssey 2 I think they're working on a completely original 3d Mario game And I do not think it's gonna be announced this year. In fact, I think it might even be a launch game for the next Nintendo platform as for um It coming in with the Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 being delayed to spring No, I don't know that Nintendo needs anything else Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Band of the Three, Pokemon I mean It's kind of lining up that they're going to be just fine this holiday if zelda isn't even replaced So I just don't I honestly, but we were just debating like what was this two months ago Like man, when the hell is breath of the wild gonna come out? They have such a packed end of the year Is it gonna really come out in december? Like they have so many games I'm not saying there won't be a new game added to the holiday. So I just don't think it's going to be a big game, right A big game That's a background. You mean on the Logan call that was coming from his end I think he had my video playing My stream playing and it was coming through his microphone So if you're talking about doing the phone call that that had nothing to do with me Yeah, that was that was Logan. He was probably using headphones, but then the microphone he was using was picking up I think the stream Yep, it happens. I heard it. I knew he wasn't going to be on long. So I wasn't gonna make a big deal out of it um Man, I don't know what's going on too ever since I rebooted my computer my Mouse just jumps all over the place. It's kind of weird All right. Anyways, not that things aren't working. So I'm just gonna want to make sure I get the stream view up Um, if I had a question, he's asked it a couple times. I guess I will get to it right away And he says Nate why no stream on wednesday? Well, wednesday was supposed to be the podcast Podcast got moved to thursday. I usually don't stream on thursday's so I didn't stream on wednesday Figure that that's pretty obvious But if it wasn't we moved the podcast to thursday thursday's usually a non streaming night So wednesday became a non streaming night now We didn't stream on tuesday because youtube was having problems But people know that because we're all using youtube and we all know there were issues on youtube on tuesday um And then wednesday, uh We talked about it. We had guests at cancel. We moved the podcast and then We just didn't stream on wednesday because I I don't stream every single night guys I got I got to have nights off and now my streams have been you know, because we didn't stream on tuesday It feels like a really light streaming week, but um Stream was on tv. Yeah, it was on some device coming through your microphone Um The geroboad no more heroes going to playstation and xbox. Yep You know what's weird? I'm gonna show you guys something here I'm gonna show you guys something because I don't care that no more heroes is going to other platforms like at all Not bothered one bit But I've seen a number of videos today That are like this because there isn't any news to cover right? Like there's like no big news today So people are you know a lot of nintendo creators are grasping for hey, you know what news wise what the hell can we talk about? What this is this is a story. Let's make a big deal out of it So then I see stuff like this and I got to change that text um And it makes me wonder I can get my uh text changer So it makes me wonder when I see stuff like this and it's not just switch force It's other people as well Nintendo loses a big exclusive game and and like you see all these sad faces and these people reacting like Oh, like oh my god. This is such a bad thing I'm happy for grasshopper games They were able to convince nintendo who paid for the game to allow it to release on other platforms And because of that they get to reach a wider audience I don't really know why that is a problem why people are sad to lose a third party switch exclusive Who cares? I also hope triangle strategy goes to other platforms like Who cares? It's good for these smaller games to reach a larger audience. We don't need to be selfish Look, if you wanted to play no more heroes 3 on switch already You could have already played it for quite some time So why get angry that other people will get to play it now? Like I don't understand why people get upset about it And I'm not seeing the person who asked about that question Javier that you're upset about it But I've seen a number of youtubers and nintendo fans upset about this today and I'm like why? Good for them. Were you upset when we got ori and cuphead do? Man, it felt really great when we got the ori franchise and we got cuphead when those were xbox exclusive, right? It felt great when we got those right. It was a good thing. It's a positive thing To release these games on more platforms I wish halo was on playstation and xbox. I wish zelda was on playstation and xbox. I wish The last of us was on xbox and nintendo like console exclusivity Isn't actually good for most gamers What like look if breath of the wild wants to head to pc if they want to make an official PC release five years later. Why do I care? Cool great for pc gamers. I mean I do care because I am a pc gamer, but Like who cares? It's more people getting to play a good game So like I think it's a positive thing, you know It's a positive when games go to more platforms Um, yeah, Javier. I wasn't saying you I just this news today has been like all over my feed and my twitter and people like Oh my god. Why this is so bad. Why nintendo sucks or lose? I'm like Okay, can we can we relax now like oh, yeah, and guess what sony's releasing a lot of their games on pc I guess I guess sony sucks now playstation sucks ass like cares It's more people getting to play Um Let's see here we got a five dollar. Oh, I didn't do by the way. This isn't for you nintendo academy I see the ns in there. Uh, I owe a shot for somebody earlier So don't worry. This isn't you Uh, but nintendo academy will find out says no shot halo for nintendo switch confirmed In this case, let's be honest console exclusivity is what's keeping nintendo alive I disagree with that as well Now let me explain I have a reason for this But first I have no idea what that was. I literally just made it up cheers to the prior five and then All right, so mike Here's where I disagree What's keeping nintendo alive What's keeping nintendo alive Is of all of the console manufacturers in the market nintendo is the only one That just does video games That's it. That's their focus their focus video games. They make video game hardware for video gamers Now that's not to say that playstation expects hardware aren't for gamers as well. Of course They're not just gaming devices. They do a lot of other things. I mean, all you gotta do is go to The switch and realize there's no netflix seems like a negative sure But also hey, you didn't buy a fucking switch to watch netflix, right? You bought it to play games and you probably bought it to play games on the go And it's that portable aspect that I think really carries nintendo because nintendo's had a lot of competitors Enter the handheld space and none of them have succeeded and stuck around the latest right now is steam deck and some people even debate if steam decks even really a competitor because it's More so just a pc that's in your hands so There's going to be a lot of ins and outs but I think the portability is what keeps nintendo alive more than anything obviously you have to have the games But if let's say breath of the wild was on every platform But also on switch. I think switch would still be relevant same for mario Like if they lost all of their exclusives and they went to all the platforms I don't think that makes the nintendo any less relevant because those platforms aren't portable portable gaming is a huge sector So I wouldn't really think that would ruin anything now obviously we don't have to really worry about it because we're talking in hypotheticals here because Hypothetically would nintendo exclusives. No, they're not going to be but we're not like and today We're not even talking about it and like we're talking about a third party company that made a game for switch going multi-plat like Cool good for you They need the sales. They need the attention, right? nintendo's doing all right Brian c said if nintendo contracted you to produce a new ip game what type of game would you make action adventure? I'd make something to work alongside the zelda series maybe in like uh um Maybe like a futuristic world Or something um I don't know Maybe like high fantasy with a heavy focus on magic Because zelda doesn't really focus on that as much. I think that would be really cool. I'll have another five dollar Superjack popping in how's it going? Thank you so much All right, you first meet tv without the five dollar says console wars are almost irrelevant after game pass Switch only really matters as microsoft and sony are releasing big things on pc. We'll see about nintendo. Um That's an interesting take Uh console wars have always been irrelevant Talk about a hot take I don't know why console wars have always been irrelevant The only people that care are fans bitching because they want people to think that they bought the right device That's it. What are console wars? It's fans bitching at other fans Consumers bitching at consumers Because one consumer bought one device another consumer bought another device and both consumers want to have their purchase validated by other people Example iphone apple products, you know versus android pc versus mac like Well, what are the what's the most popular android like samsung like samsung phones versus apple phones? There's always these debates and these arguments and this warring just like there is between Fans of playstation fans of pc fans of of of xbox fans of uh of nintendo And whatever else is coming with sega over the years like It's it's all irrelevant. None of it actually matters What matters is when you turn on your video game on whatever platform you play on and whatever game you're playing Are you having fun? Are you satisfied if you're playing a game on your phone and you're having a blast You're satisfied then right? Who gives a shit if everyone else is going to tell you that's not real gaming. That's who gives a fuck You shouldn't have fun console wars have always been irrelevant and always been stupid Has nothing to do with game pass Has nothing to do with playstation bringing games to pc because you want to know what people are going to argue with Oh my gosh playstation and xbox bring their games to pc pc is not a home console. It's not the same market fine Argue whatever you want Nobody gives a fuck the only people that care are people that Cannot find satisfaction in the device they bought so they deeply care that other people will validate their purchase Nobody wants to feel like oh, I bought the wrong one. I invested in the wrong one I put too much money in the wrong one And that's where console wars come from I bought nintendo and I want nintendo to always be number one because that means I always buy either right system and always buy The right games it's all screws Sony screw microsoft and then oh PC master is coming. Oh, all of you suck. Oh you guys talking about 4k. You want 4k 120 fps I got 49 inch ultra wide 4k 240 hertz monitor running a 3090 ti 128 gigs of RAM 1200 k s cpu Can run everything okay like dude nobody cares about that crap except for the person playing like all that matters is that you enjoy The things you're playing on the devices you're playing them on And if you don't and it's time for you to search for other devices and other games That's it Wars over console shit to validate opinions and validate purchases is the dumbest thing that's ever existed And it can and it exists in every industry in the world. I love mcdonald's law. I love burger king They both are garbage Well, fine. You're right. They're both garbage. That's why we go subway. You go subway so healthy Oh, yeah, okay. It's always so healthy. Whoa. Fuck down. I'm gonna go to jimmy johns instead, man If you want to go to a sub shop. Oh man. No, no, no I'm gonna go to my local deli, you know where they pre make my sandwiches for me there and that's even better Oh, fuck you. I just go to the local gas station and just buy whatever one dollar sandwiches in the bin like Who cares like what you like enjoy what you enjoy All that matters is that you are happy if you're happy You don't need to base your happiness on what other people think about the crap that you're playing and enjoying And that's why console wars are dumb They've always been dumb Has nothing to do with anything recently And they're always dumb because debates over what's better than another thing is dumb The only debate that should be happening is internally Do I feel satisfied with my purchase? The answer is yes Cool, you made the right choice. The answer is no Hey, then you made the wrong choice Console wars is like choosing your nfl mba teams. You can have a favorite enjoy a rivalry rooting for your company system team to still play elsewhere. Yeah, like console wars have always been dumb I don't like the idea that game pass has suddenly made it like what the fuck the game pass do Microsoft games have always been on pc. Oh, no, it's all in one subscription. Okay and Let me tell you something about um the microsoft store on pc. It sucks I know because I used my game pass subscription to do age of empires 4 and I constantly Have issues running age of empires 4 through that stupid windows store But when I just bought it straight up for pc instead of relying on game pass all the issues went away so like Even as a pc gamer, I'm frustrated with how game pass works on pc. This is officially your favorite stream now Yeah, you have all the consoles. I love what I love. Yeah, I mean that's the thing All console wars are people just wanting to feel vindicated for what they spend money on or what they support, right? It's kind of like That's funny Not to get political because we don't do politics or whatever But it's funny whenever I see like around election time local elections, you know, national elections, whatever When somebody has to publicize their ballot, right? Oh, look who I voted for Why Does it matter who you voted for? It's only matter to you But you do it because you get attention and you get vindicated by other people agreeing with what you did And then you get an argument to people who vehemently disagree with you And then you sit there for hours on end on your phone tweeting away or like, you know On forums or in comment sections and like, you know, other social media tick talking away talking about how stupid the other side is and it's like You know, and you both kind of looks dumb in this moment You both look dumb in this moment Everyone looks stupid. Nobody looks good And that's kind of the way it feels like a console wars whenever I see like A vehement nintendo fan fighting. It's a vehement sony fan. I think they just both look stupid And it's weird too because like obviously I have an affinity for nintendo and I enjoy nintendo products a lot So, uh, I get branded in nintendo fanboy all the time, which it which is totally fine If you want to call me one, but it's like but i'm not even close To that fanatic about nintendo I might criticize them more than the people that Don't like nintendo It's just in spite of those criticisms. I still really enjoy the games um I'm excited. No more heroes is coming to ps5 next my series. I mean, yeah, good for them. I hope it does well I sincerely hope it does well for them It's a good game deserves more sales Um, let's see here Remember guys, you can call into the show if you want in fact, I'm gonna go check my discord I haven't checked it in a hot moment. We might have someone waiting to call in that I wasn't noticing My mouse needs to stop acting all funky Won't you take me to funky tune Really, I wonder if it's doing it because I'm and why do I have a wireless interference in here, you know I wonder if that's what's going on is some wireless interference Oh, I do have someone trying to call him. All right, we do have another caller coming in here a fellow content creator For a very interesting conversation Based on the topic that this person has presented to me in private Um, I'll wait for them to get back to me here first I don't know if they're watching the stream right now If they are, you know who I'm talking about because I just responded to you on discord So we do have another caller coming in coming in hot I'll leave that window open until they get back to me here. Uh, let's see here Look at the box says the only time I complain about exclusivity is when a game comes out for all consoles In one console gets all the perks like avengers game playstation got everything otherwise Now like those paid perks that some of the systems do. Oh, yeah There's like extra content in the game on this platform because the company paid for it And I'll let stuff kind of that kind of stops joy cj is going to be calling and it sounds like as well cool Shadow fox infinite you are in cool I'm on discord is weird. Oh, yeah discord is funky dude sometimes Well, let me know when you want I I could start to call shadow fox if you want me You're the next up on the list and it sounds like probably joy cj after that and whoever And I'm not rushing the calls You know, like you're not gonna be out all night, buddy, but you know Me out for a decent while talking about what you want to talk about debate anything you want to debate has some fun um Wow youtube's drunk Is youtube like lagging out? What's going on with youtube you guys having problem with youtube? Well, let me load a new youtube tab and see if there's let me load the stream normally if I can normal viewer actually Not the back end view. Uh youtube looks like it's working normally to me. Um All right, is youtube looking okay for you guys? What the hell's going on? Stream is fine chat. No, not so much Let me try typing the chat chat seems fine to me I mean, here's the problem. I'm logged into my account. So So I don't know what it's like for a guest Let's see here a bunch of questions coming in. What's up mojo horizon? How's it going? Oh, I gotta update our member account that member counts not up to date I'll do that right now while we're waiting to see Um member count Yeah, we haven't been streaming lately. So there we go. All right. Well, well, I'll do the member count Allow a little friend. I'll update it later. We're at 156 instead of 161 Um I'm chatter fox. You ready to go. Yeah, we were friends. That's why it wasn't working If you're ready to go shadow fox, I'll I'll give you a call here And then we got joy cj up next All right, cool. All right, we're gonna we're gonna get shadow fox on shadow fox infinite fellow content creator We'll go check out their youtube channel just type in shadow fox infinite into youtube come on mouse Hello Hey, what's going on? Hey, how you doing bud? I can't complain can't complain just same old same old here So what do you want to talk about? uh, so, uh You've probably seen my antics on on twitter for the past Maybe week or so. Um, it just seems to be that Like you made you made the whole post inviting people on to hate about Nintendo switching whatnot And it just seems that this entire This stigma about Nintendo having weak hardware is still a thing And my problem is the people that are saying it don't know what they're talking about. Um You can say it objectively, but Nintendo chose those specifications for a very very certain reason Um, and the things that they're saying that are bad about the console Whoops. Sorry. Yeah. So you want to repeat that? I accidentally Dipped out for a second. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, um, with regards to the the spec reasons people would just say Hey, well, these specs are weak because of this or that or whatever But they don't understand that Nintendo chose those specifications for certain reasons. Um I hear all the time. There's there's a current argument going today. Like I have people that are saying stupid stuff like The gta 5 couldn't be ported to wii you just ignorant stuff like that. And I'm like, you know, the wii you was Significantly stronger than a ps3. Right. It's just one of those things where people don't They don't understand that and the first thing they do is they try to go to numbers and say, well, these numbers are higher So therefore, but you don't even understand what those numbers mean. So when we dig down into it Then they walk away and they try to point somewhere else and they don't want how to conversation anymore Especially on twitter because they can just say, uh, look over here. Here's another meme. Don't pay attention anymore. Um But if you really want to say these things then actually talk about it and know what you're talking about before we go there So one of the things they'll say is oh, well, the the we use cpu is weak, right? And you can't do insert thing here or there or whatever, right? Um, let's say for an example say gta 5, right? One of the main things that is used heavily for Say extra threads for the for the cpu on the ps3 for a gta 5 is sound Why would you use that on the wiu when the wiu has its own custom dsp? So right then and there you don't have to worry about those additional audio threads taken away cpu time And when you start talking when you start digging the things like that then people the argument starts peeling away And they don't have the conversation to really they they can't use the talking points anymore Yeah, um It's an uninformed opinion Yeah, I mean I mean say what you you can just say hey those numbers are higher. That's fine. But what does that mean in a game really? and When you start talking about actual development and how you're going to use sad tools There's a reason why nintendo chose that that cpu because it's very reliable And it does what you expected to do all the time and also it's a very short um a Short programming pipeline as well. So while it may be lower clocked and be able to have lower IOPS say um per clock or whatever Um, it has a shorter pipeline So it can turn back around and do those same things in a shorter time frame So something that will say take 14 stages on your average Core i5 or whatever cpu only takes seven on that old processor And especially if you know how to write your code and stage it in a certain way You don't even need um some of the simd instructions that a lot of other cpus have You can stage your floats or your your floating point calculations in a way that are in order That will work well and faster on that cpu A lot of the times like you'll you'll notice a lot of the conversations about um Japanese developers What not to have issues with the wiii early on they had to double back And change those conversations and say oh we we didn't understand that we use cpu enough We have to spend more time to be able to make this game work well And you'll notice that hey, you know certain games like a roachie warriors 3 hyper was one of the worst looking games only you Um, and then there were other games that came out later for that system You know, i'm one of the biggest examples of xenoblade chronicles x And now you have a massive game world and one gigabyte of ram and that's still one of the largest game worlds to date So and then to to go from that in one gig a ram and then say gta 5 is it possible? That's a bit of a stretch So, you know, it's all about what developers choose to do Do they have enough time to to spend the time and money to develop on that system? And then go from there developers bailed well developers didn't bail publishers bailed So developers had no choice but to leave as soon as we you was done crisis was available for this platform And it was pulled even though it was done already by ea So this is you know We're we're talking if we're talking about we you of course if it was possible on we you of course with a more modern Technology and switch a lot of things are possible. Will you have to do it in 720p or 540p? Yes, but then don't say that it's impossible If it was possible we you with a completely different architecture And now you have a more modern architecture We got people saying the games like elton rein can't run at all on switch man. Stop like just stop It doesn't make any sense. Like I had to explain to somebody today. Like hey, you see um need for speed most wanted was the best looking game um across for for we the only version that was better than the wii version was a pc version But also in the comparison I showed them that game was also running just fine on ps vita Vita if you compare the cpu for any of those consoles Vita was the worst But still that game was available for vita So obviously if you take the time and the ability to make stuff happen It can happen on any set of hardware We live in a day and age where the original quake runs in a browser now You can't say a modern game engine can't run on anything anymore. It's just not an excuse So that's that's kind of what I what I wanted to make make a um testament with that Um If y'all know many y'all follow me on tour you already know I say this stuff all the time It's just I feel like I'm yelling into a void And the ignorant people still talk over it and say no, it's just too weak. You can't handle it blah blah blah and I'm like, no these are A platform is static It's a system. It's there garbage in garbage out, right? A switch is going to do what a switch is going to do all the time because it's only given instructions and doing what you tell to do with it The thing that changes is people So if you're a programmer and you're developing for switch Why are we not blaming? The talent and the time that's being put on these games instead of the hardware You wouldn't blame a car For how it turns going around the corner. You would blame the driver first if you see another driver doing better Why would you then go blame the car? The only this only happens in the gaming industry only in the gaming industry does this happen Not even in the computer science industry you won't go over there and say hey this software Can't happen because this hardware is bad. No, you just say you're really bad at programming Only in the gaming industry is this a thing where we just automatically assume developers as a constant And the variable is the console. That's not a thing like the console doesn't change specs once you start putting a certain game on The developers choose what they do Because they have publishers that are on their back and are saying you have this much time to make this project happen And oh, yeah, you know the original project it had three and a half years and Seven million dollars per month to make this happen and on switch you got two million dollars and six months That's that's the thing and they don't want to they don't want to talk about that They just say oh, well, it just didn't happen magically. So therefore it means it's the hardware. No No, it's 2022 It I would say in the switches situation. This is 2017 and you're gonna tell me that a modern game image A modern game engine isn't scalable. It doesn't make any sense You can take an unreal engine three game and make it run on a phone all the way up into, you know The latest GPU that's out right now. So why can't you do the same thing? for our real engine four and higher Yeah, it's interesting too because I got two points I can add one Unreal engine five runs on switch And that's the latest and greatest And then well unreal engines infamously really scalable um But I also know I can't name any names, but I know a developer that was working on red dev redemption 2 per switch It was a real thing that had real development time at one point And it was running They had it running now doesn't mean it was running well and The publisher decided Based on how much we're gonna have to invest to make this usable on switch Compared to what they thought it would sell. They didn't think it was worth completing the project But it just to me was like, yeah I I said this ages ago. My audience knows this Any game can run on switch It's a matter of time investment and how much They're willing to sacrifice in certain elements To decide if the project's going to be worth the sales they project. It's going to get exactly You know like witcher three. Yeah the worst version on switch Perfectly playable to everybody Who has never played it anywhere else? They thought it was worthwhile porting it so Yeah, I the gta 5 things interesting because I always see that one brought up a lot I usually hear people argue with me that Okay. Well, yeah, the original game was on 360 and ps3 sure that could be on switch or will you but They got rid of the online the online is only on ps4 and up. I'm like, yeah It's for the audiences Yeah They didn't cut off online on the old platforms until people weren't playing it anymore so But and that's that's another thing where if they released that version for switch and You know switch became the lead platform Then obviously they would have the online and whatever kind of to suit that audience once they noticed that Hey, everybody's buying this because they want to play it anywhere or what have you So it's just one of those things where it's about money. You want to return on investment and for the longest time Publishers were not giving Developers ample enough time to make make those projects work on the internal platforms because they didn't think they were Going to get their money back And I for for the longest time that was accurate all the way up until We was successful. I want to say about the second or third year we when it was obvious at that point Hey, let's go ahead If you got a shoe on it on the we make it happen And that's why we started seeing stuff like The entire call of duty 4 campaign on the we in 480p like in 88 megs around like so if that's possible Why are you telling me that a switch version of open world game can't happen like it just doesn't make any sense to me Yeah, and personally, I think a lot of it comes down to Just console wars Exactly that's really all it is that they don't care what switch can and can't run It's just a feather in the camp. They could say to hey, this is why I play on pc This is why I play on steam deck or ps5 like that's fine play the games where you want to play them nobody cares Yep, but like you don't have to put down a different platform Because you don't it doesn't have the game you want to play when You probably wouldn't play it on that platform anyways like Okay, as an example, you know like elden ring it could run on switch Is it gonna run at a satisfactory rate to somebody who has a ps5? Probably not. So just play it on ps5 It's not gonna be 4k and you got it and you have to the other thing too is Your your complaints are hypocritical because the first thing you're gonna say is oh well switch If it's gonna run it is only gonna be 30 frames per second blah blah blah I'm like, well you're playing elden ring and 4k and therefore since you're doing it It's 30 frames per second also because there's concessions if you're gonna play on those other platforms It's funny how when you can pick and choose when you want 30 frames per second or not Oh, we're listening 4k though. Oh, okay. So 30 frames per second is okay. Which one is it? Yeah, it's like you're willing to sacrifice it for something But then like you mentioned, oh, what about how about being portable? Is that worth the sacrifice? Oh, no, it's not no no and there's well, it's well, it's sub 1080p Then the steam that came out now sub 1080p is okay. Now we can play 800p. Yeah, right It's it's it's one of those things. It's so it's so crazy to me how like what are you What is the what is the standard here? What are you gonna? You're just gonna move the goalposts if if the end goal is you don't want to recommend a nintendo platform to play third party games on Just say that and be done with it You come up with all these excuses and then other things come out or other other things come about That fly completely in the face of that and you won't call that out Like if I don't want to play a game in sub 1080p I'm never gonna play a game on steam day. I'm not that type of guy But if that if that was my standard, I would like a steam that can be like yuck I never want to play. You know, you know what I mean? That would that would be my thing I don't want to sacrifice even if it means I could play anywhere I don't want to compromise my 1080p or nothing experience That that will be that will be my standard You can't pick and choose when you want to do that. Oh, what nintendo's doing it So now I'm gonna hate on it, but then as soon as it's not just nintendo doing it I can make concessions now. Well, it can play other triple a games that I like so therefore no No, like keep your standards a buck all the time um See, that's that's that's that's just the majority of it. Um We see we see these kind of guys all the time and with me being a a pc gamer as well I remember the times where where um Uh pc ports were bad for a very long time Still are in some cases You get console versions of games and then the pc version will finally come out and it's horrible It would take fans to make edits to the batch scripts for the game to make it better They're editing dll files to make the windows version of the game run better It it was so bad for so long I want to say probably the majority of the seventh generation. It was pretty bad for pc game It just happened with elden ring actually Yeah, yeah elden ring was bad cyberpunk was bad for everybody I mean that was just to give an example with elden ring I like pc gaming on my ultra wide 49 inch doesn't support it Yep, but then if you edit the files, it does so it's like it can support it The developers just won't give it to you so fans will fix it No, it sounds like if they cold the game specifically for the hardware you have it a run good g Who knew g It's like I'm not it's funny because I'm like I'm not mad at them if they don't support a 49 inch ultra Why do you know how many people rock a 49 inch ultra wide not that many It's not a very common resolution Not at all, but yeah, that was the majority of kind of my Kind of my takes here and I see a couple of my followers in your chat But you know, it's the same I guess we run in the same circles But it's it's just the same stuff that I see all the time regurgitated and um I guess the problem is they will never do what I'm doing right now and actually talk it out Because anytime I'm like well, I got the discord open or I have the I got the twitter spaces open. They're like I don't want to oh my I don't want to give away my identity kind of like bro like you're using the app right now Like just press the button. You don't even have to leave twitter Like just press the button go into spaces and talk. Yeah, they don't they don't want to do it. So Yeah, I find that a lot with a lot of people that don't want to defend their points properly And the thing is like I'm cool. Like people want a more powerful switch. I would like a more powerful switch. That's cool And it's coming at some point. Yeah some point. We're getting Either new gen or some mid-gen upgrade. I don't really care. We're gonna get something. We always get new hardware Like it's a given this is the platform is five years old like it's funny when I see people like Well, now the steam deck so steam deck shows up trash switches And I'm like well dude steam deck is made on technology. It's like five years newer. Can we uh Not act like steam deck was possible five years ago. That would be great And and even then and even then it's like it's still a miracle. I was talking to another guy today on tour one one of the guys I actually used to do podcasts with he um We were talking about how it's still a miracle that steam deck doesn't burn your hand because they they position the The fan and the so see Directly in the middle away from your hands So when you're able to play because it does get hot that technology is still not meant to be ultra Ultra low power So even though it's supposed to be like 11 to 35 watts or whatever It still gets extremely hot because our dna2 is not meant For that type of application You take all the shaders out and make it as small as possible It's still going to generate heat um like it was in a giant gpu So um just talking about how you have to have it is so wide So you're the hand grips for the for the steam deck or far away so you don't feel the heat is that's just another I don't want to call it. Yeah, I don't want to say it's marvelous engineering, but it's it's just It's a good thing that yeah, it's convenient that you don't get to feel that because if not it's It won't feel good uh touching all that but you need it if you want that performance in Yeah, I mean it's just like it's just like laptops You know if you have a gaming laptop, you're not putting it on your lap when you're gaming It gets way too hot. It's just way too hot. Yeah, and I know like because I have one in hell No, it's always on a table somewhere because even when I'm not it sometimes gets too hot Yep And when you think about it too, this is switched in at what would have been 2016 when they decided to print a whole bunch of these um A bunch of these socs in a fab So it was still at the time when they decided to say hey, we picked this at the end of 2015 It was the top of the line. There was no soc that was close Closer to what that that certain soc was doing. So until it launched there was a an iphone chip I guess it came out then at the time that beat it. So Hey, manando mario. Yes, that is shadow fox infinite chat. Let me yes. Yes, it's me Yeah, and I called you out my model with our mario because I know you You you follow you follow me as well. So yes, I am on here right now being a complete How can I say this Fan killer because I know a lot of a lot of people come in they they all have this even nintendo fans have this Oh, well, it obviously it can't run and i'm like as an nintendo fan You shouldn't be that way because you knew what nintendo did with game q game q was exactly what it needed to be They knew they needed nine nine megabytes per second for for frame for frame buffer. So they did way more than that They did overkill just for that um And if you look at how the system is designed for we you and switch they're overkill for what they're trying to do either Switch isn't trying to do 4k is doing 1080p Sometimes docked undocked is doing 720p and lower depending on how much How much battery life they want to give you because they have to deal with that too The more tbp the soc uses the less battery life you have So and a lot of third party developers, they don't even deal with the dock version of the switch like that mode They don't even it's just nothing but mobile for them. That's what they that's what they deal with and then so you put You put it docked and it looks exactly the same so A lot of the times people have to understand that that's the way that the system was looked at when they were programming for And not sit there and then try to lamb base the system and say oh, well, it doesn't do it It's not able to blah blah blah like bruh. They were giving this game They were giving this platform and this sdk within like six months and they're like go So what do you expect them to do? You know with with not even a fraction of the amount of of talent that the original like imagine mortal comment, right? developed by an outsourced team Um, what they did was a miracle considering their porting code from the originally intended ps4 version Right, which was the lead platform with over a hundred developers And they had over three years to work on that game coming after coming after Mortal Kombat 10 And the switch version is done in less than a year And they know nothing about this platform They have to pour all the code over from ps4 which has way more cores than the switch does So they have to use the dsp instead of cpu cores for audio and stuff like that And strip strip assets so they don't use as much memory to bring this game down and You're complaining because oh the resolution isn't as high as I want it to be when they targeted 60 frames per second No matter what you do It's just that's just it's weird to me. It's just weird that Knowing that knowing that You want to be a tech head, but then you're going to ignore that other part of the tech part the programming part of it The development part of it the most important part Yeah, the most important part and then say well, it's kind of not there Well, if you're going to be that if you're going to be that technical to say it's kind of not there You also have to acknowledge what they had to do to even get that to happen In that amount of time so it's like I don't know man. I don't know but I just That's kind of what I what I wanted to say so um I want I want uh, I want diabolical take over take over your entire screen because I know you got other callers in so Yeah, I know you're not good I just wanted I just wanted to speak and say my piece or whatever. I appreciate you having me on and uh Most definitely um, I'll probably I'll try to do uh shadow cast and have you on as well if you if you're if you're available Sure. Yeah, you just got to let me know when and I'll see you then fence my schedule Okay, not a problem. I appreciate you. Thank you. No problem. Yeah. Thanks for coming on man. No problem All right. Well, that was uh shadow fox infinite those who don't know you fellow content creator obviously uh big nintendo fan also knows what he's talking about He's not someone that I would call a fanboy As you could see with all of his arguments against all that stuff was all based on logical interpretations of actually knowing how games are made and realizing It's not The way that most consumers summarize it as which usually just again is all about console wars I did link his twitter already. I'll link it one more time. If you're anyone who would like to follow him Um, he's he's a good dude. He's he's a good dude I've had several conversations with him. Uh, we were on a podcast together once. I think uh player essence his channel He's a good guy. Um, all right. Uh, joey cj. Are you still around? Did you want to did you did you want to come in for your call here? Yeah, I know that you uh Had messaged me. Let me message you back here quick All right, um I want to make sure uh, I probably shout out, um, minato mario. Thank you so much by the way for the I don't know what currency that is. I think that that's about five dollars on Here, uh, but that nt currency. I'm not sure what that is, but thank you so much. I appreciate the support. Let's uh Give you let's give you a little a little dance. I guess, huh? A little one. Maybe just a little I said just a little one Oh god, all right. Um Yep, I'm gonna I'll call you joey cj. Give me a second here We have another caller on You gotta see I kind of position my headphones a little weird It's because I can hear my own voice back through them And when I do that I start slurring because it sounds all weird Hey It's so dumb. All right. Let me uh start the call with joey cj Hello Hello, can you Oh, can you hear me? Okay. Yep. I can hear you joy. See how's it going? It's going great. Thanks for having me on nate. I just wanted to sit sit around talk about zelda with somebody else Hell yeah, who loves it as Hell yeah, I barely ever get to sit around and talk about zelda. Wait I I don't know about that but um, so quick little history of me. I'm uh an old girl gamer Back in the 1980s. Um, that's right 1980s. Um, I was at my dad's house and This box this gray box with this gold cartridge was just there and I was like, oh what's this? And that's kind of how Me and link became best friends before I even knew his name was link I was a little girl and I would just spend hours in that game just exploring bombing everything um, I still Feel cringe when I think about all the dark nuts in certain dungeons crowding in a room and you can't kill them all um, all that's all those different things and um as I grew up. Um, I got to um High school and the people around me kind of convinced me that that was a kid gaming was a kid's thing and You know, I needed to grow up and everything else and I stopped playing for a very long time Stop playing games all together for a very long time and what got me back in I was randomly watching tv and um Twilight it was uh for the we and it was twilight princess And I was like dude, that's my best friend link. What's he been up to? Bought a wee that same day bought twilight princess that same day. I've been going ever since um So it's just been it's just been my thing. Um, my favorite game to this day though is still a link to the past And I I just spoiler alert. Um, excuse me. I've been talking all day Spoiler alert for anyone who has not played link link to the past Just like meet me for like a good 10 seconds here But I'll never forget how it felt when I beat all three dungeons and I'm a little kid and I'm like Yay, I beat the game. I beat agonim and then you know, all of a sudden It's like everything flips and you now have this huge dark world to explore And that has just been I I'll never forget that feeling a shot surprise and Happiness because it's like oh yay more game um So that's what I feel about zelda. It's just always been my favorite. It's it's me and link has just been We always go into this best adventure together. Um, since I've been older I have really really broadened my horizons I was the one that said splatoon was stupid and that's a corny looking game who the hell wants to play that And I have now 3000 hours in the game. Yeah Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. I got it three months after launch. So, um, Totally looking forward to splatoon three. Um, I'm a huge bayonetta fan. Um, I just I just love her whole vibe Um, but when it comes to zelda, nothing replaces that same feeling that I get every time a new one comes out Um, so when it comes to breath of the wild to as much as I enjoyed the first one um You know, there's some there's some critiques I have of course, but I understand that the whole point was Exploration and that's why there's a lot of spaces. I feel that are very very empty But there's ruins. There's um, you know, of course zillion cor rocks Um, I just know that nintendo better not put 900 and nothing in anything ever again Um, but billion cor rocks, of course, but and all this exploration I love that they experimented with divine beast and you know, you meet all these interesting people I love that but for breath of the wild to I'm really really hoping for that same kind of link to the past feeling where you think it's over But hell no, we haven't even really started Um, there's so much more gain. There's so much more to explore There's so much more story. Um, so much more of everything And um, one of the other things I wanted to say in the future um, because unfortunately, uh, you know Miyamoto son, I uh, I don't know my son. I never say I knew my right Um, they are not going to be with us forever. So I'm looking and I know they're giving more and more to the next generation of developers And I'm really excited to see if we might get Ah, you don't think so I'm seeing you shaking your head. I'm watching on mute. No I was uh reading a text from my fiance Um, so yulia, I said what's up. Yeah, anyway Um, but uh, I'm I'm really interested to see if I take the kids to work today. So She's regretting that decision Yeah, see that's why you need an auntie that ain't got no kids. My brother used to love leaving kids with me. Um Because I'm that auntie um But um, I'm really excited to see if we might get that ready player one experience Or if we get maybe not too too modern But I really like the idea and I like the fact that in Breath of the Wild Anuma said we're giving him a motorcycle. We're just gonna do it I would love to see a bad ass link one day. I hope I can say bad ass on here A bad ass Bad ass link one day. Um, some kind of new modernized version of the green tunic or blue whatever we're going with then And instead of five being a uh, a sword, you know, maybe she's a gun or I don't know something like that The master the master sword gun, you know, magnum. I don't know. Um, but my biggest thing that I would really love to see before I get too too much older and I'm screaming at nintendo directs and nursing homes Is I really would like to see all of the past links Come together And really just kind of really take on an incredible force of Ganon that we just haven't seen before Like he's all powerful. It's not just the sword that can take him out It's like all the heroes got to come together and you know, kind of combine And really beat the hell out of the sky and say we are sick of your shit Ganon and kind of closed the door on that. I don't I don't I'm gonna miss Ganon He's my favorite villain. Um, but I would kind of like to see the series grow a little bit more Um, and see if we can kind of get out of this cycle a little bit just kind of expand a little bit more I don't want link to change. I don't want zelda to change. I'm okay if ganon Changes his role a little bit. Maybe he kind of maybe he's a sub boss or something different But I really really want to see, you know I really just want to see that epic battle at the very very end one of these days and one of these games where You know where you know, you got to invite your people over to watch you beat the game because it's that good You got to stand up and clap in the middle of the night because it's that good Um, that's what I that's what I'm hoping to see one of these days. So don't so that's my uh, those are all my thoughts on zelda Nice actually not all of them just a few of them. As I say, that's never all of them As an example, what do you want to see in Breath of the Wild 2? You know, um, I knew my son already told us that we're going to the sky um If I if we could I really really really like and I and I've read some of this in the some of the magnets and everything I would love to see our old lawfully. I really would Um, or I don't know if we could see him, um alive Obviously, but I would love to see some Remnants that our old lawfully was there. I would love to see old remnants of skylock Because part of skyloft. I believe if I remember correctly, I just played skyward sword again or skyward sword hd Um, not my favorite not a bad game. Just not my favorite. Um I I think there's a part of skyloft is still up there So I would like to see that um, and then of course we had city in the sky That dungeon from twilight princess I don't bring. Oh kubak. Don't don't don't do that Ever I never want to see that thing again But I would like to see um, just some remnants up there Some maybe some leftover bosses history. Maybe we do run into the original the original link Um, oh my gosh. I'm seeing your reaction now on mute and this is cracking me up I would maybe we do see the original link kind of how in okay another spoiler alert if you haven't played twilight princess mute me for 10 seconds, okay? Because we know who we meet when in twilight princess we meet we do meet an old link Okay, and I'll leave it at that. Okay, everybody can turn turn your body back up Yeah, the hero shade. We'll leave it at that. We're not going to tell you exactly which hero if you haven't played it Um, but I would love to meet the original link Uh, or and I don't really even think that that's the in my personal opinion. Um thinking too deep about this I don't think that's the original link. I think that's the first one we know about I think that's the first link in that form to fight What highly and needed um for that particular For that particular end boss, uh at that time. I think you're something Uh deeper, but that's the beauty of zelda. We can go on about lore and make up all kind of theories You know really forever and that's something I do hope that nintendo will one day kind of give on a little bit I'm a writer myself. You're a writer as well. Nate. You've talked about it plenty of times There's a way to give your audience so much And not give them everything And so you can give us a really badass story a really great You know, yeah, but there was this other dude back in the day way back in the day Maybe his name wasn't link. Maybe it was bob. I don't know, you know bob and hylia were you know chilling one day and You know, some other bullshit happened. Oh, excuse me. Uh some other stuff You see a little from my streams. I think you know, I swear all the time we're good Okay, I just want to make sure I can say that on the nature. Okay, so Um, so I so I just think there's so many different places they can go with that. You know, maybe gannon wasn't always, um Well, we know gannon wasn't necessarily evil, but what how did we get from demise to gannon? That's still something that's never been really clear for me. Maybe I missed it. Maybe somebody can help me out Um, but that's something that's never really been clear to me. I understand what gannon is I understand how he's born. Uh, bob the builder saves a day you better stop Um But how do we you know, what made him pick gannon? I really enjoy this of some of this a lot watch a lot of theories on youtube and I really love the theory that um Demise almost infiltrated, you know groups And it's just the eternal love trend triangle Uh between groups link and zelda. I kind of like that idea But but then again, I kind of like groups so I kind of don't want him to be infiltrated by evil So there's that too, but there's so many different places. They could go one of these days. Nate I'm going to be calling you back because I'm going to be working at nintendo I ain't going to be able to leak nothing, but I'm going to be working there and I'll be able to say, okay, look I'm able to at least get my ideas somewhere on the board. I can't tell you my plan, but I got a plan And to tell you how far off that uh, we've probably got a good 10 to 15 years before that plan comes into into fruition I'm an insurance agent now fabulous money Fabulous money, but um, I'm going to follow my passion. So, um So that so there's just so many different ways that we can take the series And I know that they really want to start pushing to have bigger games more often I know breath of the wild is take part two is taken forever breath of the wild took forever skyward sword took forever But I know they're pushing for that and this is a way. I think that we could do it Um is you know, let's get get into that lore. Let's dig in a little bit deeper. Let's give the fans a little bit more of what they want Yeah, I have to say there's a lot of like in between stories that we've never Fully explored like you could get bits and pieces from like the manga or other places, you know hyrule of storia, but um It's never really complete like a lot of wars that are referenced, but we never actually experience um Even like now that the the whole timeline splits been officialized like okay. Well in the timeline after you know Link fails. Okay. Can we see what happens? Yeah, exactly. Like we're just kind of told oh This and that no then we had to flood the land like okay, but like why I have a theory about that personally um Go for what if what if the hero of time Did it on purpose What if he made up made an eventuality this is what happens if I win this is what happens if I lose This is what happens if oh We go back in time And and we just and I just warn Zelda ahead of time Because the thing about it link is so damn quiet You know, we know he's smart. We know that he's you know, obviously adventurous. We know he's courageous and everything else so What if he planned it or what if Zelda? You know, maybe at some point behind the scenes, you know, put it in his ear like hey since we can mess with time Let's plan for every eventuality. That's just the theory. I have I have nothing to back that up um But because I just felt that the the time split was really kind of unnecessary um And maybe um, I think if wind waker had been better received when it first was announced and first was released in all of its beautiful to nidge Then I think that they maybe would have explored that a little bit more But I I admit I was one of the people that uh when I was going back and playing all the games I was like What what in the tiny tune adventures is happening right now? Why? And when waker is an amazing game It's very very much fun and it is extremely beautiful and let's be honest It's aged way better than Twilight princess The graphic speaking it looks way better Even if it's not an hd it still looks better than Twilight princess Twilight princess and hd I I I almost want to have did y'all even try Because I I still don't see the beauty in it personally. It is one of my favorite games Um, because I love the I love all the dungeons and the difference of the dungeons But I was like come on y'all this looks like It looks like a fan hd texture pack Yes, it really does and if a fan had done that it would be beautiful, but nintendo y'all know better I mean I try to be fair because like the wind waker didn't in my opinion need a lot of work And then it somehow got a lot of work Um, but that was by the zelda team whereas Twilight princess was done by tantalists out in australia So I don't expect them to be at the same quality of nintendo But it's funny because I I think twilight princess needed the most work to bring it into hd And it got the least so that's just I also think nintendo Felt like they were kind of quote-unquote force To make twilight princess In the way it looked it's not hyper realistic. I think it's the right amount of realism for that type of game um, but I think nintendo was also like Oh f you if you don't like our bright colors and our tonage and our happiness, you know, we're going to still kind of We're not going to make this as as graphically smooth as we could I I really feel like somebody on the dev team said we're not going to let it age as pretty as we could because that they had It had enough power to do that the game cube had enough power for that and so did the week And so did the hd. That's just my personal opinion. Nobody I've never heard anybody say that um But these you know, I just I just love the game. It's it's always going to be my favorite Like I said, I love bayonetta. I've been playing the hell out of triangle strategy these last few weeks Um, I'm really looking forward to bayonetta 3. I I can't I'm angry that that platinum's not telling us anymore about it I feel like they gave us a trailer just to shut us up for a while um But nothing just represents that it's funny because uh The main guy behind that has noted several times. He's tired of bayonetta fans pestering him Because yeah, he's an asshole. Well, he has an asshole everyone knows. He's an asshole. He he doesn't care But yeah, he he stated quite plainly I don't get to make this decision so stop asking me True He said it's literally it's all nintendo when nintendo wants to talk we can talk they're not letting us talk so leave me alone That is true. So a lot of it's I guess when nintendo wants to market it it's when they're going to market it so But I hear it is going well and it should land this year's plan. So that's always good Exactly and I I'm very excited about it But the height the internal hype I have for Breath of the Wild is just it's not going to go away I'm really excited to see what they do with it since it's a world that we already know We've already explored. Yes. I was one of those crazy people that got all 900 Koroks. I didn't mean to I just Had to because delta, you know And um now that we've explored the world I feel like they can put more things in it if anybody who's played link to the past You know, there's almost a secret like in every single corner of that map There's some kind of secret. There's something somebody to talk to there's some heart piece. There's magic there's something to find and I kind of miss that sometimes, you know that in Breath of the Wild it's like, oh empty space. What's over here? Oh ruins Okay, just 10 Koroks Nothing fun over here. Oh another night's bow Because I don't already have 30 of those. Okay. Okay. Okay, and also This is a personal personal thing I want them to bring dark nuts back because dark nuts in twilight princess They can make them just a little bit more bad bad and I'm ready for it because just like they did the linals because linals were are were very very scary to me and A link to the past because it was like you couldn't beat them And they felt unbeatable in Breath of the Wild until you learned their pattern So I kind of want dark nuts to come back in a little bit a little bit more badass fashion Have you ever played Zelda 2? The adventure of Link Dark does not my favorite we're uh Harder than the final boss Yeah, they were they now and that I think what I hate on zelda 2 a lot personally because it's not for everybody It isn't for everybody but in now that i'm i'm old now. Um I I I appreciate what nintendo was trying to do like let's branch out They didn't know what they had they were just trying to make a good game Um, and then they came back in full force with a link to the past and I think they got their footing um, so In um links adventures in the in zelda 2's defense They tried The enemies were good. They just were coming at you a little too early and there was just a little too many things that Didn't didn't jive. Well, I didn't feel I didn't feel like it was as smooth as the first one And the first one really wasn't that smooth if you think about it So yeah, and I see the chat's going crazy. I don't know what I don't know what everybody's talking about, but um, there's a I don't know what's going on. We have two of our regulars here that every time they say something it repeats like 10 times I don't know what's going on. It's weird. See that happen a lot in youtube lives just across the board I don't know what they what what youtube be doing. I really don't know Yeah, I don't know So we're just trying to hide it. I don't want to ban them. So I don't know Yeah, that's what I think that's a youtube glitch because I see that happen on all kind of different live streams So that's not you look someone is a spam account. All right, I'm gonna hide the that spam account then Yeah, it's a spam account Okay, that's how that works There's one way I could deal with spam Make them have to subscribe There you go roll my subscriber count trying to get to 80,000 We're gonna get there you're gonna get there one of the first video one of the first videos I think I ever saw of you I I want to say You hadn't completely Jumpstarted your youtube, but I think were you with zelda informer? You were talking about motion controls for skyward sword and defending them and you had on your zelda bathrobe Do you remember that? Yes Yeah, that's one of the first videos I saw of you And I was like he likes zelda. I like zelda. I should follow him Yeah, I only covered it for 20 years Yeah That's when I was really kind of following people on youtube and realizing there was a whole world of Yeah, a whole world of community around zelda and not just gaming and zelda, but I watch cooking show I watch the blog stuff. I watch all kind of stuff too a lot of cooking shows So, yeah, so, uh, but you know, that's just what my hopes for zelda and one day when I'm working there I can at least drop a note on somebody's desk and say please do this Please implement this. Please watch youtube and listen to your fans And really pay attention to what they're saying Because these are ideas that will That will that I think will definitely certain ideas will definitely hit and resonate with the audience Especially as old as old school gamers. There's certain things that I think that we're just really waiting on And we haven't gotten yet And I'm I'm also hoping breath of the wild to kind of fulfill some of that too And not only I know we're going to the sky. Of course, we're going to be on earth But I'm really hoping for a dark world I'm really hoping for a dark world as well Or some kind of maybe not underground but maybe dark world because is laurel still still there I mean it's held over there just by chilling there I mean, yeah, that's what happens to the dimension that terminals in You know This is my gripe about Majora's mask one of my also one of my favorite zelda games is just very emotionally taxing Um, if you really pay attention to what's going on, um I I really wish they had gone with the theory that it was links stages agree for something like that Because when they just said oh it was a dream Well, that's a good another good way to say ask you to the fans. No, we are in we are immersed in in in terminal We care about terminal. Did that move ever come back? You know, um, Did you know how our cafe and adju doing do they have kids now? I care about these things. I want to know What happened to the bomber the bombers club and those boys, you know, what did they keep their club going? Are they still doing, you know, great things? What's the carnival doing? My other gripe about that game is the fact that they just dismissed link after he saved the whole world At the end. Okay. Well, we're gonna go have a carnival. Um, you can go about your business. Okay. Bye Dang, I can't get no funnel cake. I can't get I can't get a party hat. I can't get nothing I just saved the world And you're just gonna send me back to Hyrule You guys That's just my personal thing in there. I'm probably taking that very much too personally, but that's how I feel about zelda I take that stuff very personal When it doesn't come out a certain way So anyway, I don't want to take up more of Of your stream. I'm sure somebody else wants to call him right about now. Yeah, I've been going for almost 30 minutes Look my fiance who's been trying to call me Oh, and yep, yeah, you gotta yeah, you better answer that because I know if my boyfriend She knows I'm screaming and talking to people but All right, well, thank you so much for letting you just, you know, run my mouth made I appreciate it Oh, no problem All right, when you do this again, I'll call back and talk about more zelda stuff. I'll talk about all the other theories I have All right, sounds good. We'll go. Hey, you work at nintendo drop me a line You know, I will I'll try to sneak you some info. I just can't promise I don't have to share it. I just have to know for myself Good point. All right, y'all y'all be good much love. Talk to you later later, jayce All right, well that was joy cj Very appreciative having around talking lots of zelda goodness. I'm always up for zelda conversations. That's my favorite series I am going to uh Yeah, later later. Uh, if you're head to else chat a fox in it. Thanks for coming on and having a quick chat about Well, you know what you talked about um If you want to call in all you gotta do is uh go on to the description of the video There's a link to join our discord server and you can message me. I'm actually going to uh Put some music on for you guys quick and mute my microphone Uh zelda music in fact because I gotta I gotta make a call to julia So if you see me like talking with my phone by my head, but you can't hear me Yeah, it's because I'm on the phone. So I'm gonna play some music for you guys and I will be right back Well, she did an answer. So when she calls me back, I'll uh I'll answer then She's got the kids. She took them to work tonight, which I told her probably wasn't a good idea, but She's like, it'll be fine. It'll be fine. The fall asleep on the couch and because she works till midnight So I'm like, why would you take that's whatever she wants to do what she wants to do I think personally she was trying to give me some time off from the kids because I have them all the time but Including most of today because she was sleeping from yesterday's work. Um All right, let me make sure let me get this back. I'll make sure everything's working. Okay. Yeah, we're good Um, do I ever play lab o vr breath of the wild? Uh, I tried it out um I put my lab o vr thing away Oh my god this person I apologize guys I'm shutting the chat down for a little bit and two members only Uh, it's the only other move I have We are having issues tonight um At this point, I don't think it's it's not a bot we have someone intentionally Um coming after the channel at the moment. So we locked this down Um, my fiance is calling. I'll play that music quick. Uh until I can figure out what's going on with the chat She regretted calling me. She's just stressed out about the kids And talking to me wasn't helping with her stress apparently um Anyways, yeah, so I don't know what's going on. I'm gonna unlock the chat I'm gonna bet your subscriber mode and hopefully the spam stuff. I don't know. We're obviously being targeted. We have we obviously have Somebody targeting our live stream right now I'm just making a bunch of new accounts And coming in and targeting and targeting and targeting. Yeah, see they're still here. Yeah, it's just so Can I I'm gonna report This stuff to youtube as well Yeah, because I don't want to have to lock everything down to members only because then the only way people can chat with me is to Join and like it's cool. I like when you know, hey, thanks for the support I don't want people to like have to join to talk to me We've been banning ghastly gamer. There is somebody targeting the channel We have we have someone targeting the channel. It's it's a individual Who is remaking? accounts of our regulars And now coming in with different accounts And just doing crazy stuff. This is insane I mean the only thing I could do guys is lock it down to members That's literally all I can do. We are banning All I could do is lock it down to members only Like I can't ip ban. So I can't stop this person. We're just coming back with unlimited accounts Like it's insane And the only way you guys be able to chat will be members only so I It's getting a little out of hand If they come back again, I'll I'll just have to lock it down to members only and then you guys Sorry, we'll have to pay to chat, but It it does make the stream not fun because like You know, we're sitting there having this in-depth conversation about zelda and every time I glance at the chat It's just spam spam spam You know, no problem Joyce. Yeah, I hope you really enjoyed it. I think we have another call coming in Yeah, we have another we have another call coming in For now it looks like the spam has stopped for the moment. We'll see if the person doing it gets tired of making new accounts And they come back and start spamming again. I'll have to lock the chat down to members only um Since Nintendo is always working on hardware. I feel like if they wait too long to really they're they're back again You know, what's funny is that they're mimicking um actual subscribers That's so weird. You know, we'll lock her down. You guys will like the chat. You'll have to become members. I'm sorry In fact, I'm gonna lower the membership tier for for now I'm gonna make it so you guys can join for a dollar That's as low as youtube will let me go add a dollar tier. Let me Let me go here. How do I edit the membership? Where's edit membership levels? All right, so let's I have to delete I have to delete the level Okay, well, I don't want to delete the level. Um, what's the one that has the least amount of people in it? come on The 25 dollar one. I think all right, so I got rid of the mythic level for now And we're gonna add a 99 cent tier Sorry, there's That's what I'm looking for done I gotta go add I gotta I gotta fix my membership tiers. Hold on. I haven't done this in so long um member only live chats Done Yeah, I gotta fix that on all of them That member only live chat thing broke Wait, I remember only live chat legend I'm not so sure that this is gonna work at the moment Um So the membership levels are in review So we'll see what happens. Uh, what's going on? We we had a spammer popping off Someone who and it's not even a bot at this point Remember at 250 members of the skulls at the toilet was installed They have to attack your stream to validate the cells mess of a great fund. I mean, that's just what people do All right, uh pdubs is ready. So I'm gonna have them On maybe This person was gonna come on next and answer Uh, I think we have another person who wants to call in Membership didn't change on your side. Yeah, I don't the membership things have to be approved by youtube I don't know I don't know. I might just I might just say screw this delete that recover this next Yeah, I just canceled my changes because it was just Yeah, I just canceled my changes to the membership tears because it was dumb So yeah, if you guys still want to chat in the chat you need to uh become a member for three bucks and Chat away. Sorry I'm sorry I guess this is become a member's only thing To see that jesse got his computer. I have no idea. I've been I've been so damn busy I'm glad if you got it though. I'm glad I'm glad he got it Um, oh man. I'm gonna try it again. All right. Let me try pdubs again. Hello Hey pdubs, how's it going? Good you? I'm all right What do you want to talk about? So yeah, I was uh thinking about that um video you had recently about the nintendo hardware And uh, you know, I just kind of think about um The way nintendo does business and I feel like a lot of people misunderstand You know, I mean like they're they're like trying to do things a lot differently than like sony and microsoft like selling it at a much different price point and also selling it for a profit unlike sony and microsoft, you know, and uh, I mean, I think about the way they go about things they um Make a profit on their console When they're doing well like with the we in the switch they obviously Sell a lot of consoles so they're making a lot of money on that and then um I mean, I don't I don't know the business that well This might be a question that you might be able to answer But like when you look at the software sales for first party switch games Like you compare that to like ps4 or xbox one like, you know call a duty and All their best games are barely cracking 20 mil, you know, and you have uh, obviously, we know a port of a Weu game is selling like, you know over 40 million, you know what I mean? So I mean, it's uh, I just wonder like are they making like money hand over fist compared to like sony and microsoft with the way they do that, um maybe It's uh man, that's like Sony they said, um It's such a big deal whether that they have call of duty and uh, nintendo doesn't even care if they have call of duty Or madden on the uh, you know on their console and that's the that's the thing that's funny when people talk about 4k and uh nintendo so far behind it's like They they obviously don't even care because they don't have madden or call of duty like if they're selling this much first party software Why would they try to upgrade they just have to spend more money to make games? Like why would they want to do that? I if i'm if i'm running nintendo. I'm kind of wondering as a businessman I know we all like would love to have all of our marios and zeldas in 4k, but You know, I mean as if i'm nintendo. I'm like, do we need to go to a new system soon? You know and um people think of it as a hybrid system like it should be on par with ps4 or xbox, but most people play it in handheld a lot, you know the the majority of usage uh for the switch is in handheld and it's it's more Uh, if you think of it as a handheld console, it's uh more fairly judged as far as its performance and everything, you know what I mean Yeah, I think You know so when it comes to the profitability like one thing nintendo doesn't care as much about third party games as other companies is because I mean mario kart 8 just sold 40 million copies Which is more than any PlayStation exclusive has ever sold Yeah, and they have Several that have sold more than any PlayStation exclusive was ever sold And they're able to sell and like when we think about 40 million that's 40 million at 59 99 They don't drop prices So the profit mart and mario kart 8 was made for the wii u so their profit margins are insane um But for like sony, you know when call of duty sells 20 million on their platform. Well, they get 30 percent of every sale So that's a huge chunk of money. They don't want to lose right but like again like um The way nintendo is doing business again like how they make profits on their consoles I'm guessing must must like Offset the cost of making a console on par with sony and microsoft and selling madden And call of duty and all the EA games, you know what I mean? uh, I think it's just different because Nintendo used to do what the others do Right back when the gamecube, I'd say the last time they tried, you know, nests nests as 64 gamecube. They were Hey, it's the power game. It's the power game. We got to keep up with the power Right, but they were losing that game Yeah, and it wasn't that they were losing it because they were making less powerful hardware. They were losing market share So right nintendo doesn't make the choices they do because they're worried about the third party games They make the choices they do because they feel If they have more hardware out there that makes them Uh more relevant and able to sell more of their own software right but at the same time it's funny because Obviously they don't they're not catching the big ones like I've said before like call of duty and madden and even the third party ports that they have like the skyrim and the The witcher three like those were like kind of just um, obviously they're not as good as the ones on playstation And xbox and they're kind of like oh, wow. Look what the switch can actually run But when it comes down to it like I think at the end of the day Those were like really cool at first when they did doom and everything But now it's kind of like oh, well, I'd rather just buy it on my ps4 or my you know my ps5 or something like that, you know Yeah, all right, I think it's just a just different strategies. Um nintendo likes to be on top of their sales, which is cool They're not always on top if that nintendo has a history of dropping the ball when they do get on top um Like for me the biggest argument to release new hardware sooner rather than later is because nintendo's history is melka system Till nobody cares about it anymore Then release a new system Right and that's never worked out for them Yeah, because we'll see the we I feel like it really did kind of dip off at the end But I feel like they're still going really strong with all their software on switch right now, you know, like they're and uh you know, I'm excited to see where um their uh online uh stuff goes with you know n64 Um, I mean they have the best catalog of games, you know, like um, sony and microsoft are going to have to pay through the teeth For anything most of the stuff they put on there, you know and nintendo This is all stuff again Well, besides sega that they that they already had in house, you know, like they have all these games the rights to all these games So the only cost to them is just to you know Put them out there on the you know to make them ready for us switch online, you know Yeah, I mean at this point. I think all three of the console manufacturers own a lot of ip Sony owns a ton of ip And microsoft bought their way into owning a ton of ip Oh, I guess Yeah, I guess microsoft doesn't have to pay anymore for those. I still thinking of them as like third party games This is a college what he's about to be first party starting next year so Um, and that's not even cleaning Bethesda and so so microsoft flexed here. We're one of the richest companies in the world That's just we we've been trying to make our own game studios and we suck at it So we'll just buy everyone Right and sony been slowly doing that over the years as well as buying ip rights Like they have a spider-man and stuff. I think I I don't really think that the any of these companies are lacking ip's at this point I think there's just different strategies like you have microsoft going the subscription route strategy Um to deliver new games, which is fine. I like game pass not going to be for everyone and you have sony who Does basically big budget games and only big budget games um I mean, I guess the sack boy wasn't probably the biggest budget game, but Uh, a lot of games they put out there are a really big budget high-end triple-a games That push the visual and gameplay mechanics to the max of what they're attempting to do And that's fine. It's just those games take so long to make a lot of them tend to come at the end of their generation Which ironically actually helps them Um, you brought up the example of hey, nintendo's got a bunch of games coming out right now They don't need to worry about a new platform Well, sony would tell you that's exactly when you worry about a new platform We always end our generations with our best games And in the same year we have our best games come out We drop our new platform because sony's strategy is Get the new thing out when people can't get enough of you Rather than wait until people don't care about you anymore and then say oh now you should buy our new thing Well, why I already moved on to something else Right, so it's a different strategy. You know and sony to sony's credit Every home console has sold over a hundred million units and nintendo's only done it twice Yeah, yeah, you're right But um, I think if nintendo does uh mario and a zelda in the first year again Like whenever they drop a new console they should be good because that was the big part of the we you That was an issue is that there was nothing coming out, you know so Yeah, there was like a nine month gap at one point But technically it launched with the mario Right and launched with the mario that tends to sell better Yeah, so it was really it was a really interesting time the we you I think had a whole bunch of problems Right using the we branding at that point after the we branding got drugged through the mud. That wasn't a good idea Yeah, and plus it made people think that Tablet was just an accessory Right didn't help that there was literally a thing called the we you draw Which was a tablet from ubisoft to draw for the week But right, but yeah, it there was a whole bunch of issues with the we you that I think led to a lack of success And yeah, nintendo not properly supporting it Um, you know out the gate that that's something learned with switch And that's why a switch had such a strong year They they could have released switch in holiday of 2016, but they wanted the weight So they could have a really strong nine months right, yeah That was another thing that really supported the switch is uh, you know the the 3ds was still going so they still had some of their game makers working on that and so They they were porting over all these we you games and you know I love people who have we use and that's great, but I never had one I'm always I'm usually a generation behind with stuff, but I do have a switch I just try to buy things cheap like I'll buy my nintendo games for 30 bucks unless it's like zeal or something but but basically I never bought a we you and when all these we you ports are coming over I'm just like heck. Yeah, I never got to play those and I don't plan on buying a we you now because of it, you know and um So, I mean, yeah, it was but I feel like those sales like really helped support their first party lineup and uh, you know to bolster those um Switch sales with all those, uh, you know ports from the we you I mean it was it was crazy, you know and actually, um I uh, like I said, I I usually kind of I usually kind of wait to buy video games pretty cheap like I'll I'll hang out and wait till that everything goes on sale um and uh, basically I go, uh, I'm looking at buying a new council and I'm like I might go for the steam deck because Almost every game is on steam. Obviously except for nintendo, but uh, you know all these old, um, PlayStation and microsoft exclusives are coming to steam and I'm like I love to play god of war, but I don't know if it's worth buying a playstation for me And I'm like I can maybe I'll buy a steam deck and wait till it goes on sale on steam and I'll pick that up too. Like if if uh, PlayStation and microsoft put their exclusives on there like a year later I'm down Or microsoft doesn't day one Uh, all right. Yeah I mean, but microsoft's a pc company in the first place. So that that's why sony does it usually like a handful of years later um I mean, it's all personal preference and where you want to play and what you want to play and what you're willing to spend You know, there's no right or wrong answers for any of it Yeah, I mean to be honest most games I wait until around christmas And I'll buy like five or six first party nintendo games from gamestop at like 26 dollars a piece Yeah, and then I uh pick them all up and then I'll try to play them throughout the year Uh, they've been on my list for a minute, but you know, everybody's got a backlog a mile long So it's not like I'm like sitting around not having a thing to play No until these sales go on, you know But uh, I'm free to play games out there now too Yeah, yeah But uh, but I will buy like I said then I'm waiting for the next sell to come out because I don't buy that for 60 You know I mean, I think a lot of people are willing to buy that one for 60 at this point. Yeah That's like I know i'm near Nintendo game Yeah, I'm I'm I know i'm weird because I don't like to pay full price, but you know, I mean A lot of people don't like to pay full price Right, you know like I always defend nintendo charging full price because people keep buying it So why wouldn't they right all the companies wish they could not lower price, but Right. Yeah, it's interesting. Um It's just interesting looking at everything and And and how people vary and how they purchase things and there was a long time where I never bought games for myself I just waited for people to buy them for me for christmas and my birthday Right Nice so one more thing I wanted to say about uh breath the wild too I um I just cannot believe that This game that is, you know, reusing assets reusing part of high rule that is reusing the same engine like I cannot believe even with pandemic that it is taking this long. I was listening I forgot what youtuber was but he was like, I think that the pandemic cost them a year I'm like a year like you know how many hours that is, you know, like I mean it might have cost them a few months But like, you know, I mean for the pandemic, but again, they do this stuff on computers I know they have to talk a lot, but like a whole year, you know, like that just seems crazy, you know And so I just my theory is basically they were gonna have that You know a switch pro coming out like when everybody said that was but they didn't have enough chips So they swerved and I bet you That this game has been ready to go for a while and I bet you they're already working on another zelda Like because it's been six what though it's going to be six years by the time this thing comes out And it's just like Like that's longer than the original game which they made for two platforms And they uh completely read like, you know invented zelda So they reuse nothing from like the previous game, you know, I mean, that's just nuts, you know, like To think that this game would take so long. I mean, I know Nintendo has that seal of quality. They don't like to release something every year like call of duty But like seriously six years for a game where you with we're using all that, you know, that's Just crazy happens if this game is three times the size of the last one I know, right? Well, that's what I'm saying either there's two there's two things either one They're making a game that is just yeah, like just shocked full of content like nothing we've ever seen Or they're already starting another zelda like I I mean In my eyes, like I'm thinking like they probably had it finished And and ready to go and then the switch pro got delayed so they're waiting And then uh, what else would they do? They're not gonna sit around do nothing, you know so That's something I always wish I could do more in my if I had more spare time was to kind of track and see Where the dev teams are for like each video game, you know, because like you look at the credits on a video game and It says like, you know, this is the director and yada yada yada And um, if you can kind of follow like oh, well the director of the mario kart game hasn't released the game in three years He's due to he must be working on Mario kardar or we know he said he wanted to work on this, you know, so I always feel like that'd be a kind of a deep dive into uh, you know Video game making but I thought that'd be really cool Now would be really cool That would be awesome. Sorry if I seem a little distant. I'm a Texting my she is so frustrated No, I have kids too. I get it kids. I can't believe she took them to work I told her it was going to be a mistake and she's like, no, it'll be fine And then she called me on the phone and got mad at me. I don't know why hearing your voice made you maybe mad like It's because you blame me for you I mean, that's just be honest I have three kids under six and a 19 year old. So I mean I Hear Yeah, hey, at least the 19 year old can babysit, right? Oh, that's it's low. It's more complicated. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. You don't have to go there I was trying to be nice Right, I don't I'm talking on the phone right now And I hope that my calves are uh doing all right in the playoffs because uh, I was I'm at the check on those games today. I haven't looked Yeah, we we were we were like, uh the bell of the ball in the middle of the season Everybody's like, oh the calves and then they got a bunch of injuries to the key players And now they like barely made the playoffs and we'll see what happens that I think they're losing Yeah, they're down five with two minutes ago Fight game Yeah so But uh, we'll we will be there soon, uh with the box competing, uh, I think next year if not this year we'll be Jared Allen's playing Yeah, I had a fantasy. I had one of my fantasy team, but of course you got her Oh, nice. Yeah, right in the right there in the playoffs. That's fun Yeah, all right. Well, thanks for calling in. I got a couple more calls on weight here Yeah, man that was awesome to talk to you like just you know, you see youtubers every day and uh, you know, like to get to talk to You, I don't know. I mean like, uh, I don't like see every single one of your videos But I do love I watch as much as I can and it's just really cool to talk to you like person to person Just had a chit chat like it wasn't like a 10 second call either. You're like a radio show. Yep I appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. It was nice talking to you too, bud. Yeah, thanks. Have a good rest of your night. Good luck with the kids Thanks, you too Oh, come on mouse So, uh, we got a couple all a couple calls coming in here Uh, first time I want to welcome we had a couple new members. Logan just re-upped his membership So welcome back Logan. I don't know what the hell was going on with people either hacking your account or Mimicking your account. I don't know because there's a lot of crazy stuff happening and then we have a brand new member Welcome manando mario. You've become the latest member of the board of directors of nintendo prime How's it go? What you hop on the elevator and come to the tippity top of nintendo prime tower floor 99 Just so you know, we do have a toilet on your left. Yes, as you see it does work I don't know what happened. Natsu installed it if we ever get to whatever 200 something Plus members 250 members or whatever she'll finally explain or it looks like How that got installed because I really have no idea how I've never seen a toilet on an elevator in my life But when we get to the top We got something special for you. We're almost there. Don't worry. Whoa. Whoa. Come on Use the toilet, please Oh All right, we're at the top. So now that we have gone through the doors straight ahead. You'll see gordon ramsey He's cooking up. He's back babies cooking up Some omelets over there. We got some fresh fruit on your right. We finally got the budget to restock our fruit over here on the right And brand new homemade mother baked cookies on the left. Enjoy All right, um next up we have I believe nintendo academy Coming in and we have another one queued up after him Hello Mike did I catch you with your pants down? Put a mech on So he answered the call guys, but he's not talking. He's probably got to get like, oh, I need my mic I need this and need that That's why I said I think I caught him with his pants down um Yeah, cookies that's right. We've been restocking the snack bars around here I really wish I knew what was going on with my big mouse I bet you if I plug it in it's gonna be fine. One second. Let me grab a cord for my mouse Two three testing testing testing testing testing one two All right, yeah, there's definitely some wireless interference Hey, what's up, Mike? You hear me? Yeah, got you bud. Finally got your pants back on No, I had the the the wrong setting because I just installed the rollcaster Okay, yeah, so I had I still had it to my little interface on the other side. So Yeah, no, that's like man. I have too many audio Going on What's the deal? I don't know. I'm just live streaming dealing with spammers having a lot of fun So, yeah, I mean pretty pretty pretty um pretty cool conversations I like the the format. There's the calling format. It's really cool. I think it's uh, it's a winner I try it was calling Fridays Yeah, I don't know if I've I've come up with a official name yet Calling Fridays with Nate on nintendo prime. There it is radio voice talk about everything including Including Mike not having his pants on um Nobody but um, I just wanted to add something to the previous caller on the time frame on breath a little while too Yeah, um Yeah, they're using the same the same kind of base of the models that they're using for the past game, but you have to kind of Put on that that they're also building a completely big on the world That main world they're they're redoing and then the new world which is in the sky. So we have A subterranean world we have that the base world and then we have the sky world as well So it's just I know this game this started as a dlc right the the this it was supposed to be a dlc And then they say wait a minute. We can turn this into the the sequel. I don't know Because they they were making dlc um So i'm not sure if I i'm pretty sure like if you remember the end A breath of the wild the true ending Um, it definitely hinted that there was more and I think it was all contingent on did this game sell Well, we'll make a sequel. Well, I mean it kind of sold well nintendo Yeah, I heard I don't know where I heard from where they said, oh, yeah We were building a dlc, but then again this dlc just turned into the sequel and then too many ideas Yeah, yeah, so so yeah, I mean this this is a huge game. This is a huge game I think it's it's way bigger Than than than breath of the wild it's gonna be way bigger than breath of the wild and and not only you know with the with the underground Are the level we're used to but they're also expanding the actual world They say that there are areas within the world that we can now we can go even further away a further apart So it's not that they're just using what we know But they're also expanding that not only are they adding subterranean subterranean level The they're expanding the the the the real world that we where we're used to And they were they're doing this guy so it's it is a a huge in massive Game they're just we they're building an actual game. You know what I mean? And I think they have the pressure That breath of the wild one was breath of the wild one. It was breath of the wild It was breath of the freaking wild. You know what I mean? So they you know, it's like you have to Make a sequel to that good luck. You know what I mean that that game was crazy now They have the expectation. It's the most anticipated game one of the most anticipated games. So they have that pressure. Okay, we need to make this a winner You know, we have we we have to We can't really drop the ball. Can you can you imagine? Can you imagine just Nate just right there. You you are a zelda fan imagine If they dropped the ball Just imagine imagine you're up. We're looking forward to zelda breath of the wild too and all of a sudden Is that what we expected because nobody's talking about that part I'll I'll say this I think it's gonna let everyone down It's gonna let it probably let some people down not everybody I think people's expectations are too high Yeah, they I can see that I actually see that happening Like people think this is gonna be like the like like one oh shoe in for game in the year two Oh, it's obviously gonna be bird in the first one three. Oh, you know, it's gonna do have everything It's gonna everything I love from this and everything I love from that and I'm like Okay, we'll give you an example. I wonder if there's no dungeons. All right, half the people are pissed off Hey, yeah, it's like Hey, even you like oh, they got this underground world and this massive sky roll We don't know how big any of that shit is It might only be up there for very small periods of time. I'm very limited sections That's true. That's like we have no idea like It this is one of those things where we know so little it feels like we know a lot Well, the feeling is based on assumptions. Yeah, we don't know they We barely know anything so it's I feel like hype levels are justifiably high because it's a sequel to a game That justifiably won the most game of the years. I think in the history of gaming But at the same point People don't hype responsibly and I'm guilty I'm guilty of not hype responsibly something, but I'm I'm slowly coming around to hyping responsibly with this game because I mean All I'm starting to expect is whatever their vision is to execute it. Well And I don't know what their vision is. So yeah, hopefully they don't they don't they don't get too far off What breath of the wild is because breath of the wild is What it is and that's what made it successful. Hopefully they don't go too far away from that Watch can't climb anymore Can you imagine can you imagine that would be crazy? But if but um You know, how about let's let's how about something very interesting What's that happens after breath of the wild too breath of the wild three Can you imagine if they they made this a trilogy? Bank on on on the success of of the first game And give us a trilogy. I think So I think there's a possible that they can make it a trilogy because Only because we've had a trilogy one other time But I'll say this I think they have a contingency plan. So they got a plan to do something totally different um, or maybe go back to top down for a moment and Meanwhile, they're going to wait and see what reception and sales are Because I think what's going to happen is this game's going to come out And it's going to sell well But they want to see is this going to have that long tail of sales Well, it's not going to be on the market as long as breath of the wild was without going to their next platform So I think there'll be immediate work on hey, let's Uprez let's do whatever. Let's release an update thing that's going to be on the new platform So I think they're going to kind of sit on this one for a while and see hey if this one Reaches the sales 20 plus million like breath of the wild We ain't letting that go we're gonna make another one Yeah, yeah Because Zelda's never been this big It's never been this big and like there's always this question and now they've done this can they Ever not make an open world Zelda? I mean I can but it's not going to sell as well. So it's a perfect time for it I think it's a perfect time for it. I think it's the perfect time for a trilogy because Um Just think about the world we're living in right now think about the fan base Not only put Nintendo bird man. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Yeah age of calamity. Come on Come on We learned nothing in age of calamity because the story in age of calamity not to spoil it for anybody But the main story we hear in age of calamity happens on an alternative timeline Hmm, so it doesn't really affect breath of the wild like at all. Yeah Yeah age of calamity was just a way of them Trying to milk breath of the wild a little bit more You know before you know breath of the wild too just to keep people patient They just made up a story that I'm not sure if it's gonna be even connected to breath of the wild too It's just something that came up. It was a good game. It's good. I love In burman. I'm not arguing that age of calamity isn't canon Did you play it? Only like the first two minutes of that game have anything to do with breath of the wild And then a timeline split happens And then everything that happens in this game has nothing to do With what happens in breath of the wild because it's happening in a different timeline But that's not the theater there Yeah, man, right, but but uh, what I was saying is that it's the best time for For nintendo to think about making this game a trilogy just because of the fan base we have now And not only for the nintendo but for movies look at look at marvel what marvel has created What they're all with all their movies, you know how they've Found the perfect recipe on how to really release movies and literally make you feel Like you're still watching the next movie of the movie you just watched before we watched spider-man and we're home Now we're watching that dr. Strange and and the multiple of madness and it it'll be Something continuous to what happened in spider-man you know something like that so basically The fan base is there, you know, so it's not like back in the day How we always said the part oh that part two wasn't as good as the first one, you know I mean It would back that was that that was the thing because we back in the day All that it was all run by business people who wanted to milk Uh a game or a movie and just release a straight to dbd Something make it a part two and just try to milk a little more Not really put the effort the work That developers are doing now into creating a second game or a second movie or something that will follow And still have fans as excited as they are for for what's coming, you know, I mean And I think it's gonna be I think it's good. I think I think Breath of the wall is gonna be a good game Two it's gonna be a good game Breath of the phoenix. I mean I get no doubt that's gonna be a good game I mean it's zelda I don't think there's ever really been a bad zelda game From the main zelda team But it's still one of those expectations are just through the rough for a lot of people and Look just expect more breath of the wild and that's what you want. That's what you're gonna get And if you get more than that just be happy If they do something Magical and innovative and crazy in this game Awesome, some people think the sky is already that and I'm like well, we've technically been here before So that's not new for zelda, but what they do with it could be new So I guess we'll we'll see I agree. I agree Uh, let uh put the rest. Oh, maybe you you're very good at At strategically thinking things That's what I've noticed um Well, thank you Swiss pro was supposed to come out In october of 2022. Oh 2021 I mean, that's what I don't know that we knew the exact month, but let me let me let me let me Like assuming that olab was supposed to be the pro Yeah, uh, because how do you explain that chip in the switch stock? What do you mean? Is that chip going to help the new Uh, md, uh, whatever process anything that that games are gonna Be having to to make them Well, not not not not not playing for okay, but at least Look sharper How do you explain that chip because I think you were actually the first one to open that that The docker on your channel. Yeah, and look at it. Mm-hmm. How do you explain that chip being there? I mean that chip. Okay Um, all that all that chip is is a hji 2.1 output chip that allows you to have a 4k output to the tv It doesn't really do anything else. So they're future-proofing the dot then I would say yeah, they're saying that whatever system comes next will be cross compatible with this dock if you want to 4k That's good because they're what they're saying is that hence why they also let you have doc updates So they're not getting it So from from here on we can expect every every future nintendo to to still be a dual system a portable system and a Dock system because it's a winning formula for them. They can't really go get away from that. That's what basically is or They could just release the system without a dock and say use your old one Oh, that's true. That is true I mean The say nintendo is always going to do something I think is always kind of a misnomer nintendo is known to not always do something for usually more than two generations um I really love the hybrid concept and I think they should keep it around for a long time because I think they do it better than everybody else and I think that you know steam decks a nice a nice little competitor and Looks cool until nintendo brings their nexus to mount does it better um So I it's going to be interesting to see What happens? Because bottom line is we have a new president and it's been a hell of a long time Since we've seen nintendo do anything different because You know I was a kid When the original nintendo family was still in charge I was a teenager when awada took over and dropped the nintendo we Because that was his first system was the we That was under awada switch was also an awada system Now we have a brand new president And he's not from the video game industry. He is from the business industry The financial industry and it's going to be really interesting to see what nintendo does under him Because how many times does he have to keep telling us? He doesn't want nintendo to follow up a cliff like it always does Okay, then you got to do something different But not different in that we need to completely wipe out our fan base every generation Yeah, so I don't know I don't we have no idea what nintendo is going to do This president has yet to make his move Unless you want to argue We're getting the move right now. We're five years in and getting a shitload of games that we've never had that happen either Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Then again did the pandemic play a role in that, you know Lots of factors that play that are a little out of the norm And last questions. I want to hear your expectations for the super mario movie where we're about there We're getting close and then uh, when do you think we're going to see a trailer? And if we see a trailer will will we hear Mario's voice in the trailer because I think this is something that nintendo wants to keep to They're probably gonna push it back towards towards uh, maybe a second or third trailer Uh, I think and I mentioned this a bit earlier. I think we'll see the first trailer in september And I think mario's voice will be in it um I don't think that nintendo cares about hiding mario's voice as much as fans might think because They have a really really really famous actor doing it. They're gonna want that front and center the whole time. That's true So I should have a bunch of famous actors throughout the whole movie, but yeah, like apparently mario's gonna be talking a lot So to me it feels weird that let me reveal a mario trailer where mario's talking all the time But then the trailer he doesn't talk Well, then you don't really get a feel for the movie So I think it'll be interesting To see what happens with that. I'm hopeful the movie's gonna be good. I don't know I still have to see sonic 2 the second one. So I gotta see that movie too. I heard it's better than the first which is surprising. So I guess we'll see That's good. It's it's good for the franchise. Um, one thing that I heard a quick. Uh, Jim Carrey said he was uh Done. He was uh retiring Yeah, um Yeah, and so the note about the retiring thing because he because he said, you know, I'm I'm kind of serious uh So there's already a third sonic movie confirmed Okay, um, it's under contract and so people were wondering if He could be retiring but that doesn't mean he's done with his current contracts You know, so he's still might be under contract to to do Robotnik for a while But he's just not gonna take on any other new projects or anything. That's true. That's true But we'll see we'll see people go back on that all the time dude, I'm I'm I'm this close to joining the the The media tour for for super mario movie. So I'll let you know. I'll let you know if I can hook you up Um, hook up hook me up brother. Yeah, dude. The media tour is like, it's you know, you You've been through media tours. I got like a line Like for example, they pick out this today's media day We'll do media day in person that will do media day virtual like online So then they'll they'll just put a whole bunch of people in the line in the chat room And okay, you go and then you have a certain amount of time for some of the questions to speak with uh, either chris pratt Um jack black and the rest of the crew. Um, and then that's it Then the next person like like a media tour. So I'm very close to joining the media tour for this one I already spoke to the uh, I said, uh, you know, the Uh, uh, the agent a few agents. I can't really discuss who is Obviously, yeah But but yeah, hopefully hopefully it patches through if it does bro. Um, if I can't Get you in as a channel with I'll I'll have you in With me to ask questions too It's cool That'll be awesome Yeah, man, because it's super cool. Man, it's the first time they've done a movie since like what the 80s Yeah, man, the nintendo cinematic universe is starting. We've got to we've got to get on it Yeah, before it gets too big Yeah, man Now they're looking at this peon nintendo cinematic universe second channel second Joint venture coming up nintendo cinematic universe We have only one movie to talk about now in a rumor or in a second. Yeah, right Just uh, just uh the the sonic movie we can go back and watch the The first mario movie Yeah, oh just wait this way because you know All of a sudden sonic and mario cross over Now that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. I mean, I don't know because you gotta remember Sonic happens in the real world. This is animated. Yeah, but there's multiverses There's there's there's a there's a rumor in in in dr. Strange that he'll enter the animated unanimated world Yes, let's just bring everything together at this point. Yeah Man, they're gonna break the original the original castle super mario the plumbers Multiverse man it happens look at all those mics that are crazy out there you and the mics All right, man. Well, I got another person on deck. Thanks for calling in Well, uh, probably catch you in the podcast next week or something. All right. Yeah, right All right, uh, that was mike pares from nintendo academy. You guys should go subscribe to me He's really close to hitting his goal of 10 000 subscribers. He's a good guy. Um, next stop. We have uh charles. I believe Who wanted to come on? Remember if you would like to come on guys just join our discord server then message me And charles, how's it going? So it's going completely fine For me and i'm going to mute your youtube account. So that means I heard you from discord Sure You're two boys at the same time in my head Wait, you don't want to you don't want to multiverse nate happening No, it's kind of difficult because you literally Audio the first part is going around around. Yeah This side that's beside the point. Uh, so to the force. Uh, first of all No worries guys I'm saying that for the trap 2 I have no problem with my account. It wasn't act. I didn't receive any notification on my phone Even if uh, I was uh, my name was spamming. Yeah, that's a message for no reason So I wanted to address uh, everyone that everything's fine on that Yeah, so this is charles trudel for those who don't know Who was one of the had someone mimicking his account spamming So Now that's out of the way the Why I was calling is Well, we know both of us that crezo basically did his last game and Basically end of 2019. It may have been even completed some months before that, isn't it? um Yeah, I mean, I think they did metopio after that. Oh, yeah, you're right. They did meet up here if I don't hear you You don't hear me. Uh, just for a some small amount of time I saw your for your mouth moving in the youtube video, but you Answer like later. So maybe that just what's going on. There's also, uh, like a video delay. So Okay, so that's it. Perfect. Everything's fine. Yep so, um Actually metopia was last year then if I remember Uh, I think so. I that's like the one exclusive adding by No, it's okay. Uh, I can check It's okay for switch Um 21th of May 21st, okay. Yeah So basically That means We won't see any game from them for at least another year is my guess at this point Okay, because basically link awakening was end of 2019 Even if the game was complete like in june of 2019 well June plus two years that's around me of 2021 Okay So basically Let's just say that the next port or remake they are trying to make We'll take Probably about the same time I think we can assume that we won't have news from them until 2022 Um, maybe It oh you have an idea go out. Sorry what? Uh, you have any ideas. Oh, I was listening. Yeah, um So I don't know how much you know about grezzo Um, they have a huge history of releasing like multiple games in the same year Oh, so in So so in 2019 they did do links awakening But they also did arc of the alchemist and the alliance alive hd remastered all in the same year Um, I just alive was Published by an is if I remember that same year. It was published by Furu Who over the hell that is it's for you yet. You're right about that for you and also Yeah Because I have that game. Yep. Yep. That's fine. That's what they were the grezzo was the developer on that Okay And then links awakening them they did arc alchemist for compile heart The reason I bring that up and this isn't the first time like in 2015 They had legend of the legacy then they did majority mass 3d and triforce heroes in the same year Is they clearly have multiple teams Um, and if they had three games come out in 2019 you could argue that they have at least two if not three teams And then one of those teams was doing metopia So now what the hell are they doing? What was the team doing that wasn't doing metopia? Exactly and there's probably two of them Like what we just on eyes because like they had games come out in 2010 2011 2013 2015 2017 2018 2019 skip 2020 And for this reason Well, I mean they had three come out in 2019. So Exactly and there was a pandemic in 2020 that may have slowed down some yeah every year every year They've had multiple games come out. They skipped the next year So 2011 they had four swords anniversary edition and ocular in time 3d then they skipped 2012 when they released street pass garden for nintendo in 2013 Then they skipped a year. But then when they came back they dropped three games in 2015 skipped a year Yeah, it's basically like every time they every three games they skip a year I don't know. It's weird. Well, either way, they're working on something. I don't know what I don't know when it's coming And now that's the second part of the discussion we can go then is well They have it at this point How much trust nintendo has into this little company because if they have a lot of trust They may let them do a new game instead of a weekend. Okay. What do you think? But it's Well for a new game Technically we are kind of due for any kind of step down. So that is actually a new game Okay, because the last one was 2014 So I can understand nintendo Haven't done another step down Zelda because they were taking we don't have any Smalls to do to do this job and we don't have enough trust in any of those smalls to do the power really partner with us to do a new game because I'm pretty sure nintendo is Training those to do is to make games with the remakes and everything Yeah, I mean It's interesting because grezzo did make an original top-down game in triforce heroes Um, you're right. You're right. So I think I think what's what what's happening with grezzo Is there obviously treating that as that's going to be our top-down zelda makers in the future? Which again, we saw one thinks awakening I think the question is how much nintendo thinks A new top-down zelda game would sell compared to say Having them remake another older zelda game Um, you're completely right about that. It's indeed the the dilemma like they say because Like if they do both of the oracles game, for example now that they have the engine to think everything Well, there's a high chance that both oracles for 60 in one package and maybe that that Cut content from the back end of the years like then in 2000. So it was some kind of cut content. I heard But that's more a rumor I'm not sure it was confirmed Well, almost all things that cut content are usually just rumors Yeah, there's a few times that we know for sure like Breath of the wild had a whole bunch of ideas That they that nintendo actually showed us Um, like the alien thing that that never was used um I mean oh like with wind waker, uh, there's been many references to content they didn't use there. However um Mr. Aonuma put out there that they did use those ideas So, uh It's interesting to know, you know, what ideas are still sitting out there. They haven't used versus have used um you know it's just uh It's an interesting thought process. I mean grizzles doing something zelda. I'm sure I'm almost I can almost guarantee they're doing something zelda. I don't know what it's acting It's something And I can't wait to find out what it is because as much as I love breath of the wild breath of the wild too I love all of zelda. Mm-hmm Like links awakening was amazing and it was even better with the remake. So just Even try for his heroes. I know it gets a lot of hate, but I like that game I'm pretty sure I would have liked it if I would have played Friends because it was yeah, it's a goal. That's the goal of the game anyone that plays that game alone Playing it online with people that would just chuck you off the cliff wasn't very fun Also, that's probably like for you, bitch I don't think I ever completed a single level doing it online because there's always one asshole That just wanted to ruin everyone's day and throw him off the cliff Oh boy that that's sad But I had friends to play with so it ended up not mattering too much At least you play with your friend and I had a great time Yeah, I really enjoyed that game even single player was was fine. Certain puzzles were a little annoying, but But those puzzles were literally shining in the player Yeah, oh, yeah, because that's the goal of the game. So like I mean Um, you know what will be very less filled That we cannot have As the next Zelda we made they could make They could indeed make remake Zelda totally adventure Okay Because I mean it's the most edited Zelda. I know you love it to death You love it. It's your second favorite if I remember. Yes exactly so People hated it because it was most uh Way too similar to other very difficult NES game back in the day but today challenge kind of has Become popular again If we know some other Studios that basically have a reputation of doing those difficult games. Is it? Yeah, you know, I think they have an F and an S in there No, yeah, just like this. Just this just just this to do just to name up one of them So by this metric Even if Nintendo is Clearly risking something if they actually mandate this remake I could see Some kind of ID popping up in the real to actually do it And the way I see such a remake of adventure of length I will probably If I have to do it to do a complete remake of that game I will keep the skill base where you really need to time your shot You need to time your attacks and to very know when you need to attack and when you need to retreat But I will probably try to add an idea that isn't done In today Aventure game right now Just some months ago, and that's something that still impressed me We have it right there Half of the game have you been pursued by AI that is quite advanced and I'm not even sure there's another 2d game That has that kind of AI anywhere between vinyl or not Do you know of another game that has that kind of a high not all the time ahead Go on I off the top of my head. I have no idea. Okay. Okay. I did try to search for it And I remember a lot of metroid vinyls that were popular in the four or five years in the indie space We all know some of them like the two or ease or Skull that just came out in their dds that just came out also there's also and What was it again dead cells? Blood stain All of these don't have The the the AI that is present in thread And so I'm looking at that and I'm thinking Hey Maybe Nintendo has another idea that they can add to adventure of length And do something that nobody even thought of yet again I mean that's interesting isn't it you that already liked this game imagine It's receiver remake and it has something even better than before It's hard for me to imagine something better than the original I like that game so much I know but that's why I'm making your dream We're talking about zelda 2 by the way for for yeah. Yeah, zelda 2 zelda 2 adventure The only side scroller zelda Not completely sidescrolling. Yeah, it has the overworld map is top down. Yeah But like you enter a town it's like you enter any time any kind of cavern or Anything really it's size order too. So So It was mostly size holder for has Link everything by a skanda af and at When you think about it But like beside this one no other zelda is sizable Nope So that's why I'm saying if they want to truly Surprise us this one could be the next in line But I don't know if they want After all sales numbers do talk And I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people that are asking for oracles team more than Adventure of link right now on the web and if they are looking to the web to know which nice game to prepare Well, let's just say they won't see adventure of link a lot. They will see oracles or minish cap probably more at this point probably More well known more liked Probably won't better received Even though zelda too as much as it pains me Probably needs a remake the most Because I guess they gotta make a healing Mm-hmm Well, thanks for calling in charles. I really appreciate it Sorry that someone uh was spamming with your name Well, that happens. I just wanted to make sure the internet. Yeah I've definitely see Next time maybe Yeah Next time All right, well, thanks for calling him Oh, well, that was charles trudel one of our uh long time fans of the channel. Thank you so much for calling in charles um Lily young, how's it going? Yeah, we haven't had a lot of views but one everything's locked down to members only we have someone attacking the channel right now Um, I'm gonna unlock the chat actually and see if they're still attacking the channel um Maybe they gave up because it's been long enough So we'll see if they stopped so the rest of the general public can actually talk. Um Also pwbs88 thank you so much for the ten dollars earlier. I did see it I was just in the middle of a call and I didn't want to be rude So thanks again for taking my call. You are awesome Make sure to watch bluey with your kids best dad on tv. I've never heard of bluey. Who the heck is bluey? Bluey I have never heard a bluey ever like ever I might have to check this out Thanks so much for the ten dollars. I appreciate it. Let's see, uh Yeah, it was members only chat because we we had a spammer and that so we were actually up up at like 70 80 People watching and then we kept getting spams and then obviously had a lot of chat down And when you lock the chat down people are often are gonna tune out, you know, because hey, I can't talk Oh, he's ignoring me. I'm like, I'm not ignoring you. I just It's dumb. So hopefully they gave up. Hopefully they gave up now Even though we're down one mod because brian see how to go to bed Hopefully they're hopefully they're done. It wasn't the hot girl spam. No, no um, somebody was spamming the same paragraph of text And um, pretending to be Charles Trudell pretending to be Logan the block and then after we um, then after we Banned those spam accounts. They started making other spam accounts of other people's usernames And uh spamming so it was definitely a targeted attack to my stream Um, so it wasn't bots That's the thing the fact that the what they were doing was not a bot was not Like bots. So it was it was a targeted spam attack So but they might have given up now because they can't do it because they're not going to pay. They're not going to pay to spam so You know, so we've been on member only chat for like an hour and uh, they might have been gone now They might they might have gave up and went to bed so Anyways cheers for the ten earlier Oh I wish I haven't done that many shots tonight So it kind of killed the stream a little bit, but that's all right We're doing good We're testing out this calling in format. This is like the second or third time. I've tried it thinking about doing it every friday and kind of making a show out of it I think people really enjoy the fact that they can call in and actually talk To a youtuber they enjoy rather than always having to just be A face in a chat and or be like a radio show where you call in and you're given like 10 seconds and then You know, you don't get a chance to respond after that like I like to have people come on You know for a little bit If we if we had more people calling in they'd be shorter calls, but you'd still get a chance to actually talk to me so Where do you call in uh, you join the the how you do it start in the description Um, you join our discord server and then you message me. I just require that you have headphones. So there's no echo um And obviously you gotta let me know what you want to talk about and obviously if you come in and you start spamming Or say do an inappropriate stuff. We will uh end the call right there That's the beauty of me being doing it through discord calls. I can just kick you the hell out if it if it's uh someone trying to troll so prime time I don't know what calling a prime timeline because people are going to think it's about a timeline Rather than about a phone line, right? So like We'll see we'll see Yeah, it's pretty easy to call in. I also say I should request that you speak in english Because I don't really understand other languages So like, I guess you could be talking nasty about me and like some other language and I would have no idea Instead of probably, you know what that guy said that guy said you're Going to get Up the oles or your uncle what that's what they said. I had no idea um anyways Yeah, it was an interesting talk. It was a very interesting talk charles Do have any other questions the general chat's open now. So you guys can ask away I don't you'd want to talk about twilight princess or another theme for a zelda dungeon. That's what I would talk about Why wouldn't I want to talk about zelda? if anybody um You talk to me about anything slavic just not um, no politics or religion No politics or religion. That's just the only we those are off-limit topics We don't talk about that stuff on our channel But it can be about anything else and be a life if you want This is so cool. Love nintendo prime You wrote it upside down in backwards. So I didn't mean to hide that Sorry, william burgles. I tried to show it and for some reason to hit it. Um Mojo horizon do you consider yourself an influencer in the gaming community? In the wider gaming community. No I'm not big enough I would say like if you're mr. Beast or beauty pie Obviously, you're you're a massive influencer in the in the gaming community. Um, you know beat them ups is probably a Pretty big deal at this point Otherwise no No, I don't I don't think that I'm That I mean I am an influencer In the sense that the people that follow me could be influenced by me But like my following. I don't think's big enough to make a difference for anything But maybe an indie studio like maybe I can influence like 50 sales of an indie game or something But like honestly, I don't know why anybody uh sponsors my channel ever because I I don't really think that I'm big enough that enough people are influenced by things I do But maybe I'm wrong You know, it's not like I actually know what my reach and influence can be Am I gonna read your member message Lily young said Hey Nate, thanks for making such great content. No shot. You're welcome Lily I did read it earlier. It just was in my head because I was in the middle of a call um Go to see the chat is back to normal. I left for a little while to play cold vein Yeah, well so far so good Um, I think we have a couple more people wanting to call in let me get to this ellis 335 quick I do have a request Uh, sometimes in your future podcast talk about super nintendo world coming to universal hollywood and the expansion of more Super nintendo worlds in the future now that that could be um That could that could be a topic we we talk about down the line. Sure. Well, you know When we get some some uh some new news about it it can be it can be a pretty big topic um We got Okay, let's I got two more people that want to call in so uh Let's see here Yeah, I think the guli kit controller actually probably sold a few dozen after I talked about it Yeah, you could have people call in and talk about the nintendo theories and conspiracies and you make the judgment of if it's plausible or crap You can do that already Uh, so i'm gonna call a comet lightning here. That's what his username is on discord Hello Hello How's it going? Pretty good. How are you doing it? I'm all right What do you want to talk about? So I was thinking About potential lore within zelda breath of the wild tip Okay When you're seeing in the first trailer ganondorf seems to be Held down I think it was by like that hander something i'm trying to recall from the trailer. It's a hand like right in his chest What if he's trying to break free from demises influence? And ganondorf ends up becoming an ally Hmm Interesting what's a really interesting take Because if we're to believe skyward sword Um, the only reason ganondorf has any power is because of demise Um So if he tries to leave him would that he lose the power because like that curse makes it so you But then when that rise would demise come back himself and see this A little fun fun theory Yeah, and then you have the master sword itself seems to be Getting away by something Because there was something i've been really thinking about especially since that map that master sword Reveal with like why are there holes in the master sword? I thought it was supposed to be eating away slowly of demise That's possible because we know Uh, this is spoiler territory for skyward sword. Um That the remains of demise were locked away inside the master sword Um, and that fifi whatever her however you officially say her name Um, kind of gave herself up to keep him locked away Um, and then we had a reference to her in breath of the wild, but then nothing really happened And then we see the sword glow on links back like it does in skyward sword when she's trying to talk to you so Very I mean that I'm Pretty sure that like there's some massive skyward sword stuff going on I mean we're in the sky The sword's lighting up Yeah, we just got skyward sword hd released Um It's it's fun to think about like I I'm not even completely sold that it is ganondorf yet But that's because I like to live in denial One of the other things that I was thinking about as well because they haven't done a hunt for the triforce Then yeah, I wonder if they're going to somehow introduce that as the next I wouldn't like to say gimmick lack lack for a better word You have to find all the triforce pieces like wind waker, but it's for all Power courage and wisdom I hope it's not like when right Just a personal thing. I didn't like I didn't like the triforce hunt quest in there, but I mean maybe some people did um Yeah, I mean It's gonna be interesting because like links hand glows, but like for the first time ever it's glowing and it's not the triforce Like what's up with that? And like we didn't really do a whole lot with the triforce in breath of the wild itself We know zelda was using it to hold Gannon back or calamity gannon back, but that that's about all we All we really saw of of the use case for the triforce in that game. So It's gonna be interesting because the triforce has obviously been a very central theme to zelda since the very beginning And it felt weird that it really wasn't that central in breath of the wild Um, which makes you think that well, it will be eventually just just in the second game Um also interesting that there's all those highly as statues everywhere. Are we suddenly gonna have something to do with highly again? um That's what I was starting to think when you have a centralized zelda theme where they're barely focusing on the triforce You have all like things you see in the background They they got it. They got to tap into it. They're making a whole entire sequel direct sequel There's definitely something They got to do more with that Yeah, I mean that or there's always the potential that They're just doing something completely different that we can't expect um I mean breath of the wild itself was full of you unexpected uh, so I I think there's going to be some connections. I I think it's just all at this point. We don't well, we don't know enough um But it it's going to be interesting I can't wait for They just start ramping up the advertising for the game, which At this point, I really hope starts before the end of the year, but Starting to think now that I can start talking about it much till january Yeah, there's something I was reading today that was saying that The zelda breath of the wild too might not even be able to handle well on switch and it would need to be on updated switch What's your thoughts on that? um, so I we covered this and we talked about on the podcast yesterday um I think So it's going to be able to run on switch anyone who thinks you're not going to get to play this game on the switch You own today is you're kidding yourselves um, but what the Well, what happened was obviously digital foundry Examined the latest footage and noticed that there's volumetric clouds Obviously higher resolution although they did have one 720p scene, which means they would still use dynamic resolution And Then it had perfect anti-aliasing which no game on switch has perfect anti-aliasing The nobody chronicles too has like fx a a 8x or whatever anti-aliasing which isn't perfect anti-aliasing And volumetric clouds, but you're also not as close to the clouds and their clouds are less complex in that game so I think they looked at that stuff and said this doesn't look like this should be able to run on switch but at the same point The original breath of the wild wasn't made for switcher was made for wii u So how do we know what this engine that's completely custom by nintendo is capable of on this hardware? We don't um I always say go look at the splatoon 3 footage And go watch splatoon 2 trailers and tell me that you can't tell that splatoon 3 Looks significantly better and looks like it's running on new hardware so Then again, splatoon 3 is coming out on switch this summer So I think um, there's a lot of just We're getting to the later stages of switch And the later stages of every platform that's ever come out has always had the best looking games so I want to believe That this is signs that we're getting a more powerful switch soon within the next calendar year but There's that part of that back in the mind that says well every game at the end of generation always looks better than the ones at the beginning so uh, I'm not sure that that's I'm not I'm not saying digital foundry can't be trusted But this is a fully custom nintendo engine. This isn't like unreal engine or You know a popular engine that we have all the documentation for like this is a private engine that only nintendo has access to So how the hell do we know what it's capable of on this hardware? That is a good point. Well, thank you for taking my call. Yeah, no problem, man. Thanks for calling him All right, so that was comment lightning at least that's what his username was there. I don't know what it is um We have another person here. We're gonna see if they're ready All right, we got jordan coming in here maybe He didn't answer And I call maybe try one more time. Hey, how you doing jordan? Okay, so I've been a big fan of your channel for years, but I I think this is really cool but my idea is Have an older link I know that in uh, can you hear me? Yeah, you're good Okay, so I know an ocarina of time. It says that a milk Gerudo can only be born every hundred years, but what if that doesn't apply anymore? So instead of ganon being the big baddie, what if it's his son? I think that could be explored interesting and then I I'm kind of I love zelda. I love the series But it'd be interesting to have a link that wasn't a teenager for once Yeah, I mean I understand why they do it Um, they always want to appeal to all age groups and like a teens like the perfect Hits on every, you know from kids who want to be teens to adults that hey when I was a teen I felt like a badass Right So I think that's why they've always done it. Um as you know as a A long time zelda fan. I've always enjoyed the idea of an older link um one that grew up or like A continuation like it would be interesting if it's noticeable in breath of the wild too that that link's actually older Than the first one. I don't know if we can really tell at this point Um, but he seems to look like he's at least been through more Um, and then it'd be cool if there was a game after that where he got even older and older and old Yeah Yeah, that wouldn't be cool Because then it's the same link going through three or four games And we noticed that he actually ages And I always thought that'd be really cool. I don't know if that would lose some of the appeal It has with the younger audience. Obviously that that'd be the audience. I'd be most concerned about losing um but I mean, I've always loved the idea of an older link or Exploring any other possibilities like okay, what you know, what if ganondorf had a son? or what if uh What if, you know, we saw a Really like a kid ganondorf um Like that'd be kind of cool because we've never seen him as a kid. We've only ever seen him as an adult right, right and then I well, I do think A lot of the themes of the zelda dungeons are really cool I do think they can introduce a couple more um I know this seems cliche, but what if there was a space theme for a dungeon? I think they could explore that Not unheard of. Um, I'm trying to think There's that it hasn't really been a full space theme There's been like some robotic like in scabbard sword. There's the one that has a lot of robotic stuff going on in it But I still won't call that space um Yeah, like a space theme would be cool I don't know if they'd worry that it would be too similar to metroid or not That could be a concern. I just think they re With a lot of games. They reuse the same themes over and over and over sure Or in case of breath of wild they don't do any of it Yeah Well, I absolutely like the idea of a space themed. I mean Now I would say this like whoever thought that mario is going to defy gravity and be out in space, so Um, and that ended up being one of the most beloved You know a little two game run of mario ever with the galaxy series Like that's one thing that has people excited for sparks of hope is all the galaxy references like holy crud referencing galaxy now i'm interested in this game when I wasn't before Um, so that that would be interesting especially they can come up with a clever idea on why you're in space For this particular thing like And I feel like there's been a way to tie this down like even in like major is mass You have the moon coming down well the moon comes from space Right and at the very end you actually are on the moon. Yeah technically on the moon Yeah, or inside it or whatever it is But it doesn't doesn't feel very spacey Now it's just grass everywhere. Yeah, it's kind of like a dream land It's cool But you know it's not spacey. So it would be interesting if they did do a dungeon out there Yeah, and then I really do think they need you should make another A sequel to twilight friends us finally I know they were working on it and then they cancelled it in favor of wind waker Which is still one of my favorites all the games But I like the whole concept of twilight. It was something new that was introduced to this series it was kind of darker And I'm honestly hoping they do something with that again Yeah, I hate to be the very bad news Um, yeah It's it's okay. Uh, you kind of had the facts a little backwards They were actually making the wind waker came first and they were making a sequel to that And that got cancelled for twilight princess. Oh, sorry After this end of America told the zelda team that wind waker sold really bad over here. Don't do that again And then they didn't the only reason there's no sequel to twilight princess is because they were never making one They immediately went to making a motion controlled zelda And scourge. Okay. Sorry. I guess I didn't have that backwards It's okay. It's okay. And the thing is I think what what confuses people is the we you tech demo We got that we use all the tech demo that looks even to this day I mean guys that we Just type in if you haven't seen it guys, you know what? Let's just watch it live on the stream screw it Why am I telling you guys type it in i'm live Let's just watch it together Zelo we you tech demo this thing looks incredible Okay, this is 11 years ago. Sure. We'll watch the ig andrex footage one Like this thing looks incredible Whoops Such radius there Uh, this isn't an hd. There's an hd. There's a hall. There's a higher res version than this one That's not the best 1080p I know there's a higher res version This one No, no, that's a copy of the ign one Sure, I guess watch this one's been upgraded to 4k Yeah, that really looks nice. So this was like 11 years ago And this made people want twilight princess sequel so bad And it made people feel like they were doing a twilight princess sequel because this looks incredible This is the twilight princess art direction to take into 11 in hd looking incredible um and dancing cat god for the troll um But yeah, like it it's it's stunning um that they even did this and I really wish um That this would have became so this is the second time by the way, they've done something like this They also had the space world 2000 tech demo Um that never became a game Um, but this is what made people feel like twilight princess 2 was gonna happen and obviously never did um But twilight princess is a beloved game a lot of people love it. It's got what I think the most dungeons in any Zelda game at nine Yeah I've heard a lot of people that complain about it saying that it's got it's too dark And I actually like the darker aspects of it. It was new God, I really want this to be only game even today. It's been 11 years and this thing still looks incredible to me My lord. Sorry. Now. I'm just gushing over a demo that never became anything No, it's all good. Have you seen that demo? Oh my god Well, I'm I'm trying to mute it so that way it doesn't affect the call Oh, sure Yeah, the sound of the background is just like the sword clashing. You can hear like the bats flying around But it it's it's incredible I Whoa, okay. Yeah, and this is what made people think twilight princess 2 was gonna happen because this tech demo existed This is before we you came out Ah And it looks amazing and then we never got as old as this looked like this ever So Even to this day it still looks good Yeah, it's definitely aged. Well, yeah I don't know what's what happens when you make a make something properly in hd. It actually looks fine No matter the resolution but Twilight princess didn't age very well, but Um, it also wasn't made during the hd era. This would have been obviously an example of making it during the hd era And I mean it was a fight with goma obviously and it looked really cool Yeah, that's yeah, I mean, I love twilight princess I'm all for sequels to the different various different zelda games that do various different things I'm kind of surprised why the princess never got a direct sequel because It became the best selling zelda game Last time that happened was ocarina of time, which we got in a direct sequel for Um, then yeah, they eventually gave a sequel to the wind waker that was only unhandheld. So Right Good, I mean God, I love talking zelda. No, it's so do I I I heard you saying earlier that you wanted them to remake zelda too. I agree with that one I think a lot more people would actually like that one if they remade it I mean with the graphics of this tech demo, they can definitely do it I think uh Zelda too as it is even today would be more accepted today than back then Um, that's because we also live in a world of indie games where we're getting a lot of games like that now um But Everyone everyone likes what they like that we have one person in the comments saying that zelda too is gross Which is fine. Um, it's my second favorite zelda game of all time. So I mean I'm well aware used to be my favorite. So I'm used to I'm used to getting hated on a lot But It's all good. Everyone likes what they like Well, thanks for calling in man Yeah, of course All right, jordan. Well, you have a good rest of your night. Okay You too. All right. Thanks. Bye All right, that was jordan remember guys if you would like to call in as well We're still going here for a little bit Uh, just join our discord server just so you can get my nintendo prime contact info There's I basically how to how to call in is all in the description Just go to the description of the live stream and I'll tell you what to do Um, and we are doing shots and everything for super chats and all that, you know, we got some uh What is this just a little daiquiri rum mix here? Uh for anything under you know, like basically dollar super chats five dollar super chats We do rum chata 10 we do dr. McGillicuddy's 20 we get out the uh vodka And then the big hundo which hasn't been cracked yet our hose a quervo Uh because this stuff messes me up right good and today's a good day to get messed up because I do not have any kids so The kids are gone Let's see here I'm just unable to play that well as all the two but if I am going to get good at it pretty sure I love it. I mean it's a high it takes a lot of skill to play that game And I'm not saying that you don't have skill if you're not good at it. It's an intentionally difficult game um And it can be really frustrating and some people just can't deal with that It's why some people don't like some of the dark souls games because they can be really frustrating Today is a good day to make a podcast for who We just did a podcast last night um Paul gale. I'm so jealous. I know you've been to like every e3. So you got to play that demo dude. I would have probably needed to bring a change of pants If I was playing that demo it Back then I was freaking out. So I mean it was Well 11 years ago. I would have been 24 like dude dude I would have been dude You don't want to know you don't want to know I mean I was kind of that way with breath of the wild in 2016 So I guess I I know exactly how I would react and accept that one was a real demo You got to play for like 45 minutes two different demos actually One was like 25 minutes. One was 20 minutes, right? Something like that. I know it was two demos Well, one was 15. One was one was 25. I can't remember felt like I was playing it for 45 minutes So I I could be wrong. Hold on those demos were um Anyways, I wish more people tries that gulikate kinko to give the review do that controllers awesome jesse Obviously why even after I know like it sucks because they paid me to advertise it But dude, I got pay me money to tell you what a good damn controller. It's a good damn control. It's sold out There's no giveaway who's asking what giveaways I'm sure I hope he's joking Since I've already announced there's no giveaways until our prime gaming fest I mean besides like member goal giveaway if we get our member goal sure, but We're a ways away from the member goal. Um Love the maki maki. Yeah, did you love those back there? They're pretty cool There's a whole bunch more of them. I'd like to get they're expensive though Like 40 bucks a pop or something like that. They're not cheap But I'd like to get a whole bunch more of them Oh, let's see here Why are games back then so difficult limited controls? Limited pixel counts limited everything When you have limits things are just more difficult Oh, I want to swing a sword that's suddenly pretty difficult to do when you only have eight bits And a d-pad um Why did Midna break the mirror? I don't know. I'm trying to remember. Was it ever explained why Midna broke the mirror in Twilight Princess I think I I'm trying to remember. It's been a while since I played Twilight I think there was like a reason I can think of about why she did it But I don't know if it was ever expressly said Is more like an assumed reason that she did it But I could be wrong. It's been a long time since I played that game Nintendo bring it over. I'll probably play it Speaking of being added on switch looking at unate What you added me you got my friend code off the discord server Yeah, I've got like 27 pending friend requests or something Trayor I haven't added anybody because I haven't done multiplayer games in a while. Let me see 25 firm requests. I gotta verify all these two Well that person I know who they are Yeah, I've got a Plunge of these. I don't know who these people are. I don't know who you are Yeah, I gotta verify some of these um You know who accepted you Mike that's cool I'm glad Mike accepted you bud Has Mike ever had his friends list full? I don't know if he ever has this is a serious question I filled up my friends list back in 2018 off the live streams This is why I don't add people all the time but Yeah, joy cj that that was my assumption too like I remember it was something that like it wasn't expressly said why she broke the mirror But at the time it was obvious That she broke it for that reason But I'd have to go back and rewatch the cutscene if she actually states Exactly, but I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure you're right. That's why she broke it Again, I haven't seen that cutscene in quite some time um But I remember it being like a heart-wrenching moment because at that point you really like Midna a lot and like you're hoping that you Could visit her again sometime and then it's like realization hits that you might never see her again After she acts like oh, yeah, we'll see each other again and the next thing, you know You got rid of my only way to access you She doesn't say but yeah, that's what I thought that was a heavily heavy implication Yeah, because I remember not not questioning why the mirror was broke Um back when I played it But I but I also express to remember that she never really told you It was just heavily. This is why you know, you did it Remember the the crazy reveal of what Midna really looked like No, that was cool That was cool when we got to the crazy reveal This is what Midna really looks like Dun dun dun That the calves lose That sucks too. They had Jared Allen back and if they still lost I mean, I'm not the brewers are getting crushed right now. I don't know how to vote the crowd Yeah, the hawks beat him Trey young had a logo three. Of course. He did I don't know what it is about ice tray, man when it's playoff time tray young just shows up It's just what he does I'm pelicans eating clever. Yeah, I'm not surprised pelicans are eating the peppers because Paul george can't play. Hey Booze King Bacuzin VK you welcome you've become the latest member of the board of directors of nintendo prime Hop on that elevator and join us at the tippity top of the nintendo prime tower. I'm floor 99 Welcome to the club buddy another member of the board Riding on up to the tippity top when we get to the top in the back You'll find gordon ramsey making some fresh omelettes to your right. We have replenished all of our fruits Fresh fruit our budget came through got fresh fruit back up and mother's cookies on the left So, you know, we're almost there. All right We've made it to the top and The fruit is all gone Nintendo academy. I told you to stay away from the fruit I'm sorry The fruit's all gone. Still have some cookies Brian C Took the cookies He just got married dips out Took all the cookies on These gordon rams. He's still there. Go go have an omelette Go have an omelette. I can go for an omelette right now. Actually hey gordon Make the prawn special. Thanks Of course, I want hot sauce Question is that gordon Yeah, he came back on his own this time. I don't know. I think he just missed he just missed us He just paid more elsewhere. I just paid the guy with ducks I think I'm kidding. You should see what he can do with the duck Yeah, I'm sure he went to bed too. Hence while the food's on they took it with him These people not thinking of others Even a lot of zelda fans. I'm not really surprised Based on my history that we have a ton of zelda fans on the channel A ton of zelda fans Yeah, um Let's be glad I don't steal the cookies all they're already gone. So Pretty sure brian c took them with I know his honeymoon is not yet. So he's figured. Oh, yeah I'm not going on my honeymoon yet. So I can still indulge You see if some for the rest of us. God that bastard What is going on? What is underneath? Oh A microphone clip. Is that anything keyboard when you have them? Dude, I never get any sweets in this house. Everyone else always eats them Probably for the best. I'm big enough. I'm a big boy I don't need any more sweets Um awesome Well, maybe I think that's gonna call it tonight. I mean, how many calls did we have in the night? That was quite a few calls Let me see. Let me count on the back end here. We had uh one two Three four five six seven eight calls tonight. That's pretty good Eight calls. Wow Awesome guys We'll have to do this again next friday. Have another have another call. Aren't I dieting? Of course. I'm dieting None of your business though I love for a few minutes. He steals the cookies dude happens every time I swear My mom every time my mom makes cookies and then you have bird man sitting over there like dude We're you supposed to send me some of your mom's cookies will tell everyone to stop eating them Every time they show up they take them before I even like I'm gonna Oh, let me just grab a plastic bag to put them in I turn around and they're gone All right guys I gotta I gotta clean the house and do some laundry and chores and homework and stuff So you guys are awesome. Love you all. Catch you later. Peace