 Clean her ears anymore. He's like don't put anything in her ears. Just let it sit for two weeks And then after that if she's still shaking her head call us, you know, but they said this should wipe it out Whatever he did Yeah, Tom and I were talking about this earlier because my dog had an ear infection and we're you know in the in the process of of doing a course of antibiotics and another Pill that he takes so that he's not so itchy And it's working But I actually it's funny the vet called me the other day and they were like how's everything going? You know, we're just checking in on you and I was like, I think it's going pretty good You know, it seems to be fine. They said well is the ear still really pink on the inside because it's his white ear because he's got like a brown air and a white ear and Said yeah, it is pretty pink and they were like, yeah, we might need to do the flushing thing So you might need to bring him in so, you know, let us know in another week if the pink hasn't gone away And I was like, man All right I'll be in Hopefully it'll take care of itself, but I Don't want to come back either. Well, yeah, and then he said something about like It's not too progressed blah blah blah blah and I have a feeling like if it had kept going it probably could have got deeper in and then He wouldn't yeah, you're doing yeah Yeah, you know when I say syringe also, it's like it's not like a needle It's just like a it's more just a dropper type thing But I gotta kind of put it in my dog's ear and he does not like it No, they catch on like when I was cleaning her ear when she started to get the the shake, you know The little itch yeah, she started it started to burn a little and she started to see me coming with the bottle and be like, no I'm out. Yeah, right. Yeah She wouldn't run she would just get really interested in something on the other side of the house like oh, I'm sorry I'm really no, I don't have time for you dad. I don't have time for you I'm very very busy. No offense, but I'm going to the other room now. Bye. Yeah, right, right Yeah, he's he's Otis is just sort of like Because I try to do it right before he's about to get a treat or breakfast or something that he really wants, you know So we're kind of in a confined space and he's like, I know what you're doing. I don't like it Well, the other thing we did this weekend is we went to return some Clothing that Eileen had bought where they were going to charge her $8 if she returned it through the mail Like not even talking about postage like like a return fee But they said if you drop it off at one of our stores, then it won't cost you anything We'll just give your money back and such like we'll find so we drove over to Pasadena Which is the closest store and it was really hard to park and she's like this is weird It's usually not quite this busy here turns out BTS was at the Rose Bowl Saturday night Yeah, cuz like Pasadena is like pretty easy to perk in I don't understand it. I don't either now. She's faking Korean gibberish Really? Yeah, that's insulting Roger No, no, like she's It's her gibberish And It's Korean gibberish It's an actual language people speak. She's just she's What she thinks she's here is speaking gibberish Because she's imitating Korean is what you're trying to say Sure Man, I could go for some Korean barbecue later some chop Jay fried chicken All of it Not big of their fried chicken. I don't know if all I've had is hummus today. So it's time You know what else it's time for it's show It really is oh my gosh, I know came up so quick. All right. All right All right, okay BTS is that BTS or blackpink actually I can't oh, I thought you were doing Matthew McConaughey That's real rights and a cheeseburger. What's aching in it? Yeah, and a Chrysler or whatever. He's no, it's a Lincoln He's a he's the perennial uber spokespersons Apparently that that ever has been not working well because I can't remember you. All right. Here we go in three two Rory glenn has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Rory Why wouldn't you become a DTS member right now at patreon.com slash DT and S This is the daily tech news for Monday, May 6 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and I'm the shows producer Roger chain Microsoft build in full effect We got Google IO coming tomorrow lots of things to talk about. Let's start with a few tech things. You should know ahead of IO Google announced a new version of Android Auto that's Before it's IO developer conference, which does start tomorrow as Tom mentioned including a more dynamic persistent navigation bar at the bottom of the user interface and allowing some apps to take control over a Section of the navigation bar for more granular control without requiring the driver to switch to the full app in question on May 3rd Mozilla discovered that an expired intermediate signing certificate was causing Firefox extensions themes search engines and language packs to stop working on Android and desktop versions of the browser Mozilla published a workaround for developer and nightly builds of Firefox later on the third with a hot flick hot flicks hot fix Rolling up in a time for hot flicks. They were busy working on this hot fix rolling out to all desktop users on the fourth The fix requires the most recent version of Firefox to be effective So users of older versions still do not have access to extensions. So get yourself up to date Let's talk a little bit more about Mark Gurman who always knows what apples up to let's talk about Mark Gurman My friend and yours sources tell Bloomberg's Mark Gurman that Apple plans to announce at WWDC The app store coming to Apple watch along with a calculator and a books app for audiobooks Apple will also reportedly let developers bring iPad apps over to Mac OS with Apple itself bringing over the podcast app Screen time effects and stickers from messages and emerged to find my phone and find my friends up We've talked about that before in the past iOS 13 will reportedly get a dark mode a revamped health app with hearing health and menstrual cycle tracking options an updated reminders app and a new and new features for screen time Which lets parents set time limits on specific contacts for children Apple supposedly also considering showing off a new Mac Pro and an HDR monitor at WWDC as well So it might be kind of a big show. Yeah, we should have said spoiler alert Here's all the stuff at WWDC because Gurman is pretty good at this stuff I think the most interesting to keep an eye on and I will be watching at WWDC is the watch stuff I didn't mean to say I would be watching the watch stuff, but that's funny The idea that I will have an app store kind of like the way Android where works Where OS works so that I could just use a watch and not worry about having to manage it from a phone The more independent smartwatches get the better, I think You know, one of the one of the funny things is The find my phone find my iPhone and and find my friends Merging idea and and we we have talked about this in the past find my iPhone is something that I I have Definitely used in emergency situations where I was like, where's this? Bone, you know, like I just don't know where it is You know as it in my couch or did I leave it somewhere and you know, how can I get it back? Find my friends used to be sort of this fun thing that I used with a handful of friends that I liked and trusted And we've all kind of weaned. I mean I haven't opened that app in a really long time Even though I'm sure there's a few people on it So I'd love to know what Apple is planning to do to kind of I don't know I assume that It wants more engagement and that would be the reason to to to blend the two We're just or just be able to tout these features in their ads and stuff like that Last time I used to find my friend was when we both worked on tech news today And I would use it to see how far out you were on the commute I don't think we're I don't even think we're fine. I'll on find my friends with each other anymore. Probably not I mean, you basically just see me sitting at home most of the time, but yeah, it's it's it's a It's a cool feature that I I wish I knew how to use it better because for the most part it Which is kind of you'll have a The Financial Times reports that the EU is preparing to open an antitrust investigation into Apple's app store practice Is following a complaint from Spotify in March We've talked about this before as well Spotify particularly complains about being forced to share subscription revenue with Apple at that 30% to 15% rate Investigators have already surveyed to customers rivals and others with plans to launch a formal probe in the next few weeks if Somehow Apple were found to have acted unlawfully or against the regulations The EU could find Apple up to 10% of its global revenue as we know from Google these things take years So this company will we'll take a while for the for the wheels to grind through but Short version is I think Apple's fine to take 30% 15% What I don't think is okay is for Apple to forbid companies from using Legal and secure payment processes inside their own apps that aren't apples That's my story and I'm sticking to it Reuters reports that since April of 2018 Facebook has contracted with Y-Pro limited That's in India to manually review images and text posts from Facebook users to label them for things like subject occasion Author intention and two other dimensions in order to understand how the types of things users post on its service are Changing over time the data includes both public and private posts now Y-Pro had about 260 people labeling a section of content Selection of content rather from the last five years now has about 30 people labeling posts from the previous month Facebook says it has about 200 content labeling projects overall Legal and privacy teams must sign up on all labeling efforts and an auditing system is used to check that privacy Expectations are being followed by contracted companies Facebook says labelers in Timah, Suwara, Romania and Manila and the Philippines are both involved in the same project Yeah, there's a little bit of frothing at the mouth about Facebook these days. We talk about that a lot I'm not sure what all I get upset about here There are a few couple of things but the idea that Facebook is using my data to improve its own service It shouldn't be controversial Any company that I have given data to should be able to use it internally to improve its own service Where Facebook falls down is people don't trust him to keep it internal, right? And we have proven situations where internal data did not stay internal But if you took them at their word, which I know many of you won't but if you did I think they're following all the best practices here at least they say they are They're they're using private data But they're only using it to label and improve models and those models are meant to improve the services And they're not sharing data with other companies that are advertising companies. What they're doing is sharing it with contract Companies and it shouldn't be against the rules for a company to hire a contractor to do something It's just that contractor should follow the exact same privacy policies, etc. Etc. Etc. I think the big thing they fall down on here Sarah is that they don't make it clear that they do this and they don't give you a chance to opt out of it No, that's exactly that's exactly the issue that that I have and I know a lot of other people would share my sentiment Is that it's like, okay Reuters is reporting this Okay, I read the article it nothing sounds too insane But why is this not something that Facebook has said? Outright given that everybody is so We have so PTSD about you know that the idea that Facebook has so many of these business dealings going on behind the scenes And then it comes out later and then they have to apologize Yeah, and you know thrumbald in our chat room says so Facebook can see the things you post on Facebook And I yeah, I think I think where it gets odd is when you bring in contractor companies like this like this company y-pro And people go. Oh, so now you're sharing it with third parties. It's like well, no They they're come large companies are gonna have to hire other companies to do things like labeling from time to time I mean Google has an entire arm. That's just temps and contractors that isn't actually Google. That's fine There just need to be some controls on that and you should let me know I'm doing it And I think it would just be good practice to give me the chance as I already said If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines comm. We got lots of news out of Microsoft build We're gonna go through most of it here And spend a little time on the things we think are of most interest in our daily lives Just as consumers and users of stuff a few new features are coming to the chromium based version of edge browser Three new privacy settings unrestricted balanced and strict and they all three affect tracking unrestricted Just blocks malicious trackers. Otherwise, everything is fine Balanced blocks trackers from a site that you've never visited before but once you start visiting a site They figure oh, you've got it. You've got a relationship with them We'll let those trackers happen and then strict just blocks all tracking all together. That is not that is not actually Blocking ads, but it could have the effect of blocking ads And there's an IE mode that opens sites in the edge tab So you don't have to launch IE separately It's a compatibility mode that runs the IE rendering engine within edge And that way most of your workers in an enterprise who need to get to that one site That's optimized for IE on the intranet won't have to launch a separate browser and be taken out of the experience It would just all happen inside edge a feature called Collections lets you collect text images and other info into a note that references back to the pages the info came from So it's kind of like a copy-paste thing But it's automatically including links and source material and citations almost like an ever note type thing Yeah, pretty much like an ever note thing the notes can be shared by email or exported into Word and Excel Huh. All right. Well Privacy settings they make a lot of sense to me I like the collections Feature at least in theory haven't used it because obviously it was just yeah But but it's you know these sorts of things I always find that it requires a lot of discipline on the user's part to also be organized You know because you can't just take a bunch of information and you know expect it to you know Make a lot of sense later, but they can be very handy And it's our first indication now that Microsoft is not having to work on the entire rendering engine because they're using Chromium What kinds of features Microsoft might able to be able to bring to edge to differentiate it from other Chromium-powered Browsers like opera Chrome, etc. What do you think? I mean of these of these announcements for somebody who's like I don't know I use Chrome or I use Safari or you know Or or or Firefox or or any of these other browsers I mean what what jumps out at you as as something that could make somebody jump over to to These three it's a little early to say right, but the the idea of having those nice privacy settings the idea of having The collections thing intrigues me. I want to try it out myself Problem is it's within the Microsoft universe if I could put that into anything then I'd be using it for the show So yeah, yeah, I guess it's maybe it's more for the people who are already in the ecosystem and to say oh cool My browser just got much better. Maybe maybe at this point Well, but but I expect to see more of these kind of features coming from Microsoft Microsoft Word Online We'll get a feature called ideas. It uses machine learning to suggest concise rewrites and inclusive language It will give you estimated reading times and decode company acronyms using your company's Microsoft graph It can also extract key points to help readers summarize what you sent them idea also will come with word Designer which helps style things like tables for you. These features are coming to office insiders in June and everybody else this autumn huh, I Mean my first reaction is okay a machine is going to help me constructs, I don't know I mean how far does this go beyond what I am using in Gmail right now where it's trying to finish my sentences I don't think it's often correctly. Yeah, no, this is this is saying hey We just saw you finished a sentence If you rewrite it this way, it will be more concise You can avoid the passive voice and that sentence that's 15 words long will be six words long And it'll be clearer those are the kinds of things It's it's saying it will be able to do an English teacher from high school all over an editor Just because an English teacher is going to correct your grammar and they already do that I I think of it as an editor who's like great sentence, but if you wrote it this way It's actually clear and I think this could this could actually improve communication if it works That's my question. Does it actually work as well as exactly? Yeah If you're if you're you know if it says I have a suggestion to make your sentence better And you say okay, but your sentence was better You know beforehand then, you know, that would be something to think about but again, you can reject it if you want to If you if you constantly are it's suggesting things you're like, no, that's not better You'll stop using it and also these sorts of things are subjective So it may be that most people would agree that the suggestion is better But the person gets all bent out of shape like no I meant to write it that way That's what I wanted and then they just Okay Microsoft's my analytics will start tracking the number of days Instead of an amount of time that you don't check email or work on documents outside of a work hours This is part of an industry-wide effort It's not just a Microsoft to provide tools to encourage downtime to help you with that What work life balance another new feature in my analytics will let you set up focus time each week and alert your Co-workers that hey during this time don't set up a meeting. I'm trying to get things done Knowing that they will not pay attention to that There's also an AI plug-in for outlook that'll help reschedule your focus time if someone plops a meeting down in it anyway And also help you find time to focus on particular to do items like if it sees you have a to-do item is like Oh, would that usually takes you a half hour plug it in over here, etc. It's kind of cool. Yeah, it's really cool I I I you know initially I was sort of like, yeah, what's really the difference between days and and cumulative time when it comes to this but I think that for many of us days is easier It's it's it's an easier number to quantify And I also I had a boss many years ago who was always like, you know You give yourself one hour a day to check email, you know, just check email throughout the day because you know it It it's a multitasking thing. That's a you know, it's a it's a whole big fallacy and whether or not he was right about it I think that what Microsoft is doing is trying to kind of Expand on that idea and and help all of us who have a million things going on in our juggling and feel like we you know Can never get to the end of it a little bit more structure Well, and also to stop at five o'clock if you're in a nine-to-five job, right to be able to say like Oh, no, I have a goal to not Check my email after hours not even just multiple times through the day, but multiple times all My waking hours, you know trying to get people to stop doing that is is a big push right now Microsoft's AI assistant for coding in telecode is now generally available supporting C sharp and xaml in visual studio and java javascript typescript and python in visual studio code IntelliCode was trained on thousands of github projects that all had at least a hundred stars So it's supposed to be able to make smarter code completion suggestions and take current code context into account This is similar to products like kite for python, although kite is only for python Microsoft announced the private view of visual studio online based on the open source editor visual studio code With support for IntelliCode built into the online version Microsoft is pitching it as a way to make tweaks or review your poll request and such It's not meant to be your main coding environment. It's sort of like oh, I'm not at my desk Can I check in on something and yes, azure dev ops used to be called visual studio online? But that's all in the past now azure dev ops is called azure dev ops and visual studio online now refers to this online editor Fluid framework is a web-based developer platform for building more shared and interactive services and apps It includes support for co-authoring on the web. Your content can be modular so it can be used across apps You can integrate cortana to translate text Pull in content from the web suggest edits and other tasks if you're like, wait, I don't quite get what this is One example they showed was a translation implementation. So if one person was typing in a collaborative service Every other viewer of the document could see what they were typing in a different live translation Into their own language another example was an editable table In microsoft teams so that you could pull a table out of an app Put it in teams and still be able to edit it as if you were in the original app Microsoft is making the fluid framework available to developers and it'll be integrated into apps like word microsoft teams Outlook and other products with the first sdk coming later this year seems like that is a very good tool um you know I'm not sure when i'm going to be using fluid framework But uh as somebody who I don't know I collaborate with Several people on a website regularly. Um, well human roger, but you know, I'm thinking of other instances as well Where yeah, I mean that stuff has to be That has to be pretty seamless or we're you know, we're we're gonna have an issue But this is going this is going beyond that uh live translation into other languages particularly very cool Yeah, if uh if you're a developer out there and you're like, hey, I know what I'm going to use fluid framework, uh for Send us an email feedback. Yeah, you should have come. We'd love to hear from you Microsoft launched a new command line app for windows called windows terminal Where you can access power shell and windows subsystem for linux a bunch of other other things that some updates for wsl as well Has multiple tabs Terraway windows full unicorn support Unicode support means emojis in your terminal. Yes emojis at the command line in windows Uh, also as gpu accelerated text rendering that arrives mid june and microsoft showed off kortana's improved Conversational skills and ability to understand context Uh, one of the demonstrations focused on workers making meeting requests and such Uh, so you could just say like hey, do I have three o'clock open and kortana says yes Then you can say schedule my meeting then without having to repeat three o'clock and all that stuff Microsoft seems to think that businesses will one day want their own Virtual assistant the way they have their own website. So now we kind of get an idea of what they're doing with kortana They're they're pitching it as not quite a white label service But something that every enterprise could integrate in its own way rather than a replacement for your amazon echo or google home Microsoft making its new conversational engine available to developers through the company's bot framework And it will be integrated into kortana as well Yeah, you know, we've had a lot of conversations As of late about what's going on with kortana and microsoft seems to be you know, they are they You know, they thrown in the towel with this and but but but but work is remaining and the idea that it could be truly a framework for Let's say daily tech new show decides we want our own virtual assistant or our own uh our smart assistant and It's something that we could build on kortana, but we could make our own You know and imagine if there were 150 of us employees or a thousand or you know and so on how interesting that could be to use as The basis of something that works specifically for your organization Yeah, I I think kortana is is now a product that you can add into your your suite the way you would Yeah, you the way you would add any kind of library to your website or any kind of you know If you buy some chat service and integrate it on your website Is one way to think of it A few other miscellaneous items from build election guard was pitched as a platform for handling voting data Wouldn't replace the election platforms that exist It would be a way to help audit them and make them more secure Microsoft will open source the compiler and quantum simulators in q sharp. It's quantum computer development kit There's a new azure-based platform built on the acquisition of bonsai to help developers train models for autonomous robots So microsoft trying to make sure that it's getting in on the robot building wave and iot mapping databases storage and analytics all got updates across azure services Finally a video at the end of the keynote showed Minecraft in augmented reality running on a phone And the teaser says that more information is coming may 17th, which is of course the 10-year anniversary of minecraft So it sounds like we'll be getting a little more information then About some a r minecraft stuff from so slow day it built Yeah, you know just a quantum platform And visual studio online and some ai in pretty much every product they announced plus a whole new browser But otherwise nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry developers Maybe maybe tomorrow google io will have at least one or two interesting announcements. Oh, I bet it will By the way, we're kidding. We're kidding. My this is a great day of Yes, absolutely. Yes. Yes. I don't hear it in our voices. Yes. Yeah If you didn't even hear my facetiousness, that's exactly what it was Uh, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit build stories google io stories and all sorts of other stories Get floated up to the top and helps us build our show. So you guys are the best You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com We're also on facebook. We got a group there facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show All right, let's move on to chris christensen our amateur traveler who has some very good news Potentially for people who've ever had their luggage lost in flight or worry about it happening. I'm both This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I saw an article in travel weekly that had good news about lost luggage And that is the technology seems to be helping getting your luggage where it belongs So the number of bags that get lost in over the last 10 years has averaged 5.7 bags per thousand passengers, which is an argument for using carry-on luggage But we need to remember that that is with the number of passengers increasing just between 2016 and 2018 The number of airline passengers went up from 3.8 to 4.4 billion And what they're finding is if they use technology to track the bags as they get transferred between aircraft They can reduce the number of lost bags by as high as 66 And so more technology is going in which makes it more likely your bag will be on the baggage carousel I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler You know, that's one of the things I like about flying delta As they always give me the little like hey your bag just came off the airplane and it's headed towards the carousel And this is yeah, that is a good one. Yes Having had a very frustrating travel experience with the united on friday Uh, I didn't have to check any luggage. So that that wasn't a concern, but uh, delta sounds better and better every day Yeah, I mean, I like them until they mess with me, but so far they've been really good Yeah, they even uh, we flew up to san jose on on sunday and they gave me, you know, because i'm in their status program They gave me a little upgrade seat for three more. I don't know. I'm just saying Anyway, I like the the the tracking the tagging of the bags and other airlines besides delta are doing that as well Let's check out the mail bag. Let's do it Sean the historian from toronto ontario, canada says that yesterday He was visiting lima peru Sean says I was reminded that even we friendly canadians live in our own tech bubble walking along the street I came across a massive lineup of people in orange t-shirts waiting patiently to get into a new store It reminded me of the day that the iphone 3g came out this time It was the grand opening of xiaomi's first me store in peru I walked by the store three times over the course of the day and the line was there all day long People got free me store t-shirts and wristbands with their number to get into the store tech fandom looks quite different On this side of the equator thought I'd share this little tale from lima. Love the show ps Thank you amateur traveler for your recent episode on peru so helpful Yeah, thank you. Sean. Uh, and you know what? Sean's in toronto. I'm going to be headed to toronto july 5th For uh, the marshal mcluan variety hour podcast little get together If you're a mmvh.ca fan, they've got the details up there now, so I'm looking forward to that Maybe I'll see sean up there And very cool very cool to get that on the scene report because yeah I don't think here in the u.s. For sure and maybe not in canada either The Xiaomi name Really means what it does in areas of the world where it is one of the top selling brands I mean, I know we always talk about how it's four third four fifth in the all in the worldwide selling But that's without being in every market in a big way without even being in us or europe in a big way That's pretty huge. 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So keep those coming as well We're live monday through friday at 4 30 p.m. Eastern 2030 utc You can find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live back tomorrow with patrick bezia and google io talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com I hope you have enjoyed this program Good show Very good show Nailed those build updates I like it I find it annoying that microsoft and google are doing their developers conferences on the same week, but That's what they do. It is what they did this last year, right? Um, I thought did they do this last year? You may be right I thought last year was the first year where we were like on and it's the same day Or you know the keynotes were close to each other But that's why we didn't have a lot of other news that wasn't microsoft today because nobody else wants to announce anything When they know microsoft and people are going to be dominating the news cycles. Of course We will get back to highlighting things that aren't the big five After a couple of days, but it's just the way the news rumbles rumbles crumbles Uh, what the way the news crumbles. Yes Well, it rumbles and crumbles really We've secretly replaced their normal browser. I love that one. That's a good one. Yeah, uh, be like Zoe, I mean, yes be like zoe, but I don't know that that applies Um microsoft word helps you be a more better writer I like that one All my friends are home. I'm just gonna vote for that IntelliCode inside Cortana is the new clippy with that Perhaps unfair too. I don't think that actually fits our assessment at all Clippy didn't go into the enterprise and become a private label service of it. Right. Yeah Uh emojis in your terminal Building on build Uh, take command of your emojis is pretty good, too. Uh, bio kills on a roll today. Um Well, hmm We've secretly replaced their normal browser Or microsoft word helps you be a more better writer I like that one even though i'm not sure that that was the like Overall highlight of the announcements today. It's just for a better writer More better writer and then we have korean barbecue season as the good day internet title into it. Yeah I'm into korean barbecue season all year round. Yeah, it is a uh, uh I don't think what's the name for perennial season the the season that never ends a year That's perennial season Yeah, no perennial is a plant that that doesn't have a season. Yeah perennial. That's right So, okay. Yeah, korean barbecue is my perennial season I'll try to just say it's my perennial. It's your perennial fish. Oh, okay. It's my perennial fine Sort of like my prerogative I can do what I want to do Dr. My prerogative It itches My doctor said I will I will always um not that it comes up that often But I will always thank bobby brown for helping me spell the word prerogative Because it isn't the way that you think it will because no r is weird His song doesn't help me remember it. Was it because you kept seeing it written It's because No, well because the song was so popular. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like i'm see it on charts or you know, whatever Because it's not like he he distinctly sings. It's my prerogative. No, and he doesn't like spell that or I think it just because it was such a big star Everywhere, but now I'm like, I'll never I'll never get that wrong. Yeah. Yeah I don't I probably had his like a set tape or something at the time Yeah, uh, so uh, Dave the psychologist, uh, one of the co-hosts of the marshal mcloon variety hour Actually text message me during the show, which means dave wasn't watching probably To say that uh, the uh, the roundtables that that are just a bunch of really good podcasters Uh are coming up july 5th through the 7th in hamilton ontario canada Hamilton the big h It's it's uh, I used to go to this more formal convention called podcasters across borders in ottawa And I just loved the the sort of laid-back Attitude and the the canadian podcasting scene. So i've been wanting to recapture that since they don't do it anymore And uh, it does seem like a lot of those people have moved over to the mmvh Roundtable, so i'm going to head up there this year and hang out with anthony marco and dave rodbeck Uh, and if you're in the toronto area, you should go check it out. Is hamilton like a suburb? Yeah, yeah, it's just out there in toronto like 30 minutes from the airport. It's such a cool city man I've only been there once um amber mack and I um, she she graciously had me be Part of one of her events a couple of years ago. I'd never been to toronto before and Uh, I I wasn't there for long enough to be able to say like, okay I've got the lay of the land at all because it's really big But I liked it. I really liked it I've never spent any time in toronto. I've been through the airport, uh, but I've I've been to montreal I've been to ottawa like I've been all around Toronto is different. It's uh, uh, you didn't you I I don't know. I I I I wouldn't want to offend anybody by making comparisons. I shouldn't make but I felt like it was closer to Chicago than pretty much anywhere else that I've been people say, oh, it's like new york I didn't feel that way I but I felt like it was it was a lot like chicago and in in the best way possible Well, it's right near detroit. So it's got yeah I mean, you're here in northern Yeah, yeah But um, but good, you know multicultural like uber is a very west coast city. It feels like yaddle And a little bit like san francisco in portland. Yes, uh, montreal feels like its own thing like it's it's right Right, there's nothing else like it in north america. Yes, I can see where Toronto might feel like chicago because it's part of that that region Yeah, just just just a lot of like, I don't know just it was friendly Uh, interesting architecture very varied. A lot of people eat sausages and talking about the bears Well, uh, perhaps but probably talking about the leaves, right? Argonauts leaves the leaves Um, I don't I I'm not good at this but uh, but no, it was I actually no there was uh, there it's funny. There was a, um A guy that I met there at the um convention that I was at who gave me a really good You know like the next day I I knew I would have Five hours or so to kill before I had to get on my plane and I didn't have to do any work And he gave me a recommendation to go to this sort of like kind of hole in the wall diner that was like Not where I was staying at all, but it wasn't going to be that far of an uber ride an uber is plentiful there And it was so fun. You know, I was kind of there by myself, you know at 8 a.m Eating shrimp and grits or whatever I was eating. Um at this, uh, yeah at this, uh, it was it was sort of a southern themed, um Um brunch place, but it was just it was just cool You know, and I knew that I was in an area of town that I never would have gone in without the recommendation Which is just my favorite thing to do ever To just show up somewhere Yeah, you know, someone's like just go to this address. You'll like it And it's off the beaten path and I did like it. It was really cool And I got a sense a better sense of The city because I got out of you know, the because I was kind of in the convention center area of town where I was staying You know and sometimes you go to cities and you that's all you see and they all look the same to you But um, but there is a lot more to it Well News on the pee milk beat Uh-oh and Uh, it came up on it's a thing with mollywood on friday because she was bringing up Okay, milk Oh milk also a fan Because of voters You know, we were having a talk and I was like, what about pee milk? She's and she she was not aware of the uh of The the intensity of that is pee milk Uh, and so I was like, oh sarah lane. Uh, it is the one who introduced me to the idea Uh on good day internet, uh, so we talked a little bit about pee milk and she was fascinated She's like, oh my gosh, this is a great, uh, we have had so many emails to think about pee milk Really? Yeah, like does it like like like people asking you about it or saying I like it or E-milk my wife drinks it. I drink it. I you know Oh, yeah, this place like oh, yeah Yeah, I mean ripple is the company that I you but I mean That I use that that's the company where I'm getting my like pee milk half and half from Just because it's stocked at my local Health food store, but there are other brands. Okay. That's what I was gonna ask. Yeah But but that's the big one. But yeah, no, it's it's it also If when you look at the uh nutritional content, you know in the breakdown and the vitamins and the whole thing You're like, this is amazing We should be pounding this like instead of water Because there's no sugar and there's so many vitamins and it's like what's wrong with it I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Do you need water? Why is water? Well, no, I mean water's not bad. I'm just saying if you know We always talk about how we need to be like more hydrated, right? And this is this is a thing that like I wouldn't pound a glass of milk to be hydrated I wouldn't do that, but I might do this I've always a hasten to want to add. Sorry, Roger. I'll let you go in a second I just want to make sure people know we're talking about milk made from vegetable peas Like hydrated more that's like I was reading something about Like this is like there's some confusion about people in hydration like hydration is important But some people are just over hydrating. They're just drinking water when they don't need to Yeah, and the rule of thumb is if you're thirsty you need to be hydrated if you're not thirsty You don't need to I blame I blame debate classes around the world for causing over hydration because Every debate class I've ever heard of has had someone present why you should drink more water as like what are their exercises like It's the it's the speech class go to for for so many people. I mean I I agree that Yes, your body for the most part will tell you when you're thirsty And then you you know, you can quench your thirst with a glass of water and it kind of goes away, but like people also Under hydrate and then they get leg cramps and all sorts of weird stuff Yeah You have to almost like drink water before you get it off drink But also don't let yourself get thirsty like where you're you know burning right Well, and also it's like if you have to hydrate anyway going back to the p-milk I'm like, I just want all this protein and vitamins like that sounds awesome You know, I'm very suspicious of that because it's the same thing that gatorade was doing is like when you're thirsty Don't just drink water drink a gator. It's like You know, yeah, you're not wanting to like you shouldn't be pounding gatorade all day every day But there it has its time, you know sometimes The various colors of The flavors they have. Oh, look, he got punch. He's sweating punch Unless he got punched in the face that's But you're just talking about commercial stuff. Okay. What do you drink water besides or roger besides water? What I drink mostly water 90% of what are you besides water? I drink cherry juice and that's because I have gout Nothing else. You never drink a soda. No, you never drink juice You never that cherry juice Nope, this is a lie because you tell me all the time like, oh, I had the soda the other day and I was I had one soda and that was gents. That's the only time I drink soda Is it being you drinking soda at my house when you come over to produce tech republic videos? That was a one time. Uh-huh. I looked the past four times I was actually no, no, no the last time I was there I asked for a glass a glass of ice Remember and that's what I sucked on was I and Tom just like forced you into drinking the soda and Can you imagine if calm was like like a soda? Here's the size of the diet coke. All right. Um, well My point in asking you that wasn't to have you just show how pure you are on drinking but uh To say like sometimes people get tired of drinking water They want to drink something that has flavor and I think that's even true of roger sometimes, right? And and so when you want to drink something that's not just water You should have an alternative that has some flavor But also doesn't carry a lot of negative side effects with exactly. Yeah. I mean I I would drink If I if I didn't think it was probably bad for me I would drink half and half like In an eight ounce glass. Wait half and half you would drink half and a half If I know it's weird, but like I like the taste of it But I don't do that because it's weird Like drinking heavy cream But the pea milk Is it's sort of like all of the negative effects that half and half might give me You know lactose stuff and you know, we'll just we'll leave it at that. Um, doesn't have it Doesn't have any sugar. Um, so it and it tastes good in the same way that I like half and half Yes, I like I like creamy Milk Or you like a Thai iced tea? I do But I don't drink it because there's way too much caffeine on it And I'm usually eating Thai food at night and like I would just be up for the next 72 hours So I I like the taste of it. I'm gonna take this conversation one, uh, 90 degrees to the left Um, or right depending on which way you're standing, right? So I just found out yesterday that the reason why there's so many Thai restaurants Is because the Thai government actively Pushes them out like like it's their form of diplomacy. They they they get true It's what is this true when you say I heard where did you? Well, I want I read Granted it was vox, but I read it. It was the whole thing about how they use box is fair That's they they they use it as a form of diplomacy. And so For example, for for every Thai person of Thai descent that lives in the u.s. There's 54 There's 54 of them for every Thai restaurant Comparatively for every Mexican restaurant. There's roughly like 600 Americans of Mexican descent. So there's a skewed ratio and that's because the Thai government's actively Solicits and pushes, uh, you know It's okay. Do you want to start a restaurant and so and so it's not just the u.s It's around the world. Thanks. So do you want to start a country? Whatever country? We'll send you out there and we'll give you some money to start Feels like a hype story though even from vox like I don't see an over representation of Thai restaurants I'm not like it's over representation for them typically when you have I have never walked around going man. Why are there so many Thai restaurants? It doesn't seem like there should be like I've never I mean it's a cuisine you might see more than others, but I know I might say the same thing about Indian it's well, it's more than what you would have as as For example, Chinese restaurants, you would have a specific ratio of Chinese restaurants to number of People of Chinese descent whether they're here. There's so many Mexican restaurants. Well, there's a lot of Mexicans in the u.s I don't think that's it. I don't think it has anything to do with that I think it's because people like Mexican food It's not based on the number of people I'm just gonna I'm just gonna put it up I don't feel I'm feels fishy to me like maybe well it's because you tried the fish fish sauce fish sauce You know what I mean like it feels By the way, how do we all feel about fish sauce because I am pro fish sauce. I love fish sauce. I love oyster sauce Love it and some people are like, oh man, you know like you cook with that in your house and the smell and it's awful and whatever I'm with fish sauce. Yeah, it is. I mean You don't put it on everything There's certain. Oh, no, it is vice, but it's not the box Vice that makes more sense to me because vice does like to have a little little tiny bit of sensationalism If they could find some convenient stats that made made a story they would definitely massage them I will massage this into the into Anyone who else is so watching So they didn't have a turn But uh, yeah read up on it. So what's true about it? Is that the thai? Uh country has done some promotion to get a lot of Thai restaurants out there, right? Yes They they have an act and we all benefit. Oh, yeah, it's it's not a bad thing. I'm not saying it's a bad thing No, I it's an active part of the government It's the premise of like why are there so many Thai restaurants that I'm like no one's ever said that like why would That's not a thing is it Well, I don't know. I mean In in certain cities, I do feel like you might you might say Gosh, there's there's a big Thai community here because there are a lot of Thai restaurants um, and I really like Thai foods so Not a problem for me, but I've definitely thought that in san francisco in the past not so much in la Um, but we're more spread out anyway but I but I but I wouldn't say that about Mexican restaurants simply because You know, Mexico is right around the corner. So maybe that maybe that has a little bit A lot of Mexican restaurants in places that don't have people of mexican descent living Sure, of course as people like mexican food. So it's absolutely legitimate to think like Oh, there were some Thai restaurants in some areas where Thai people lived and then suddenly everybody's like, oh, this is a really good food Let's have more Thai restaurants. Yeah, and then they would be in places that didn't have I gotta write this down for the plan to man Tom dismisses Food tonight in the summary I was thinking Korean barbecue, but now I might go tie. I got a great Thai food right down the street Delightful There's a great one actually around the corner for me called time me up Time me up see. Okay. Now what I like about this vice story is it says you may have noticed not we all talk about Right. All right, Tom I'm gonna take you to a Thai restaurant all of them. We'll do an entire podcast Tie me to the chair. What is everybody's favorite Thai Food dish like what's your go-to drunken noodles mine is always green curry chicken Noodles there's something about or a green curry prawns, but definitely green curry something There's something about the term drunken that really excites me. I don't know why Yeah, because they're just they're suffering in their own Aspects of this the the part is that the Thai government set up a company To sort of train and fund people to start Thai restaurants, right? Yeah. Yeah, all right They never got a McDonald's of Thai food though But they did get a lot of people to start Thai restaurants You know, but when you say like is that even uh, is that even a positive if you someone says you're the McDonald's of You're the Starbucks of no, I feel like it's Starbucks, maybe not so much When you say the McDonald's of it means you're like bottom of the barrel We're just meaning like they wanted to have a pervasive chain of Thai restaurants that made that make it popular. It doesn't mean You're the McDonald's of in this case means you are a successful Piece of world culture now because there are McDonald's restaurants. You're the McDonald's of podcasts like A billion served So drunk and noodles roger. I mean, I feel like that's different depending on the Thai restaurant that you're in Because it just means that it's in sauce, right? Or does it imply that it's always the same sauce? I'm just hoping the chef is drunk when they make in They're just throwing ingredients together like there's no tomorrow uh-huh Yeah, I like a green curry. I'll do I'll do a pad thai. Maybe you know, maybe maybe not I went to pats you like the pats you have you ever had uh, pumpkin Like I guess it's squash, but pumpkin curry. Yeah Yeah, it's really good. And then there's this place down in san mito like the city of san mito I'm not the county of san mito Right over by the caltrain tracks And they did this amazing coconut rice that they would serve along time Like you not just aromatic, but like you could taste the coconut Didn't say you didn't like coconut though. I don't like coconut dried coconut on Like candy bars, but I like fresh coconut. Yeah. Yeah So I think okay, so I'm looking at the drunken noodles wikipedia and they they they have no real They have no real idea why it's called drunken noodles because it's not made with rice wine or anything But they like oh, maybe it was somebody who came home drunk and just wanted to to make something I just feel like it sounds like it's just it's noodles that are they're wet. I think It's similar to hangover soup What's that is a thing in korea Where you have a hangover you drink the hangover soup to help you get over your hangover What what's in it? What helps? I don't know. Do you have to look up hangover soup? I don't know Something that is you know, but drunken noodles kind of strikes me as that of like And so I ate some noodles to sober me up or because I had a hangover the next day Oh I never thought of it that way. I always thought of it as like noodles just being in in A broth or you know, I haven't thought of it that way until I was reading this article, but it's not really in a broth. So um, well not a soup broth, but but uh You know Any soup eaten as a hangover cure And that's my ever soup way to go. Thanks a lot everybody It consists of dried napa cabbage vegetables meat in a hearty beef broth Yeah, so but there's but it can be any soup you're eating as a hangover cure. I'm gonna eat soon anyway I am too. I don't know if I'm gonna do Thai food tonight Did she get it? The problem with well the Thai food place I I really do have one that's A block away from me and it's really good um, but I I make myself not eat there more than once a week and I eat there on Saturday So, you know, it just got I sometimes I'm like sarah. You got to cook your own meal You can't just always order food from you know, the the Place where somebody makes good food you got to learn how to make your own food I had been bop yesterday Was it good? So good You let the rice get all crispy on the side of the pot Oh, you made it. No The way they serve it in the the hot stone bowl Ah, and so you just let it sit for a little bit so the rice gets all crispy inside and then you can mix it That sounds really good. That's really good So, uh, Roger you were so distracting with your tales that we forgot to uh Say goodbye to the video folks. See you folks. Thanks folks folks. Uh, audio folks stick around. There's more to come