 What's up y'all, it's your girl Brianna Imani and you're tuned in to another Talk of the Town interview and who do we have in the building today? What's good? What's good? It's your boy Jab. You feel me? Shout out Talk of the Town. I respect y'all for fucking with the nigga, you feel me? Well, thank you for coming. We have so much to talk about. First of all, happy Black History Month. Happy Black History Month. We're celebrating also the 50 years of hip hop. It's a lot of things going on right now. So very excited to dive into that and learn more about you. So to do a little icebreaker, we're going to do something a little different. I'm going to hit you with some hip hop trivia and see if you could guess the answers to the questions that I got for you. You ready? Yeah, I think I'm good on that. All right. I'm going to go easy on you. All right. Who are the 03 Bonnie and Claude? 03 Bonnie and Claude, you told my Jay-Z and Beyoncé. Absolutely. Shout out to Beyoncé first of all. We're waiting for... You know what? I won't get into it, but since we're waiting for the visuals. All right. Who once walked with God and went through the wire? Oh, that's my boy Kanye. Mm-hmm. Dwayne Michael Carter is better known as... Jay-Z. No. Dwayne Michael. Oh, you talking about my phone. Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne. All right. You almost slept. Yeah, you almost slept. You caught yourself. You caught yourself. Lorna Hill was a member of which 1994 band? The Fugies. Yes. Shout out to them. Which album by 50 Cent just celebrated its 20th anniversary? That's Get Rich or Die Tryin'. Shout out to my Queens niggas. You feel me? I fuck with 50. Uh-huh. And how many times did it go platinum? There's a little bonus question for that question. That's a tough one. I'm going to say five. You closed. It was eight. Damn. I was under estimate. Who is renowned as the longest charting female rapper on the Billboard Hot 100? Wouldn't that be Nicki? Absolutely. You already know Nicki. Nicki Harajuku, Barbie-like. Okay. This hip-hop collective was formed in Harlem in 2005. And it's an acronym for when you want to get something done as fast as you can. Want me to repeat the question? Yeah, yeah. This hip-hop collective was formed in Harlem in 2005. And it's an acronym for getting something done as fast as you can. As fast as you can. In 2005. I fuck with dipsets. So I want to say dipset, but I feel like that acronym don't exist. The name is also an acronym. Not their acronym. But something that we use in everyday talk. Give me like a little hint. That is your hint. Getting something done as soon as you can. Harlem. Oh, ASAP. ASAP Mob. Yes. 2005? Yeah, they were founded in 2005. Shit. And this Brooklyn native. This is your last question. This Brooklyn native is a founding member of Pro Era and a star in 50 Cent Show, PowerBook 3. Oh, that's my boy Joey Bada. Yeah, okay. You take good. I don't know if you just real cultured or if I went easy on you. No, it was kind of easy. Okay, all right. Maybe I went easy on you. This is the test run. We just tried it out. So the next person won't be so lucky. So let's get into you though. Talk to us about like where you're from. I know you from Brooklyn. We read Brooklyn all day. What part of Brooklyn are you from? I'm from Flatbush. East Flatbush to be specific. Shout out to 40s, you feel me? Shout out to 90s too. I'll be over there a lot. When did you started music? Music? That played a part in my life since like a kid. I don't think it was ever like a choice of like, alright, I'ma start making music. It was just like that was my way to like vent. And my way to like get my feelings out and shit like that. Okay, so you weren't always doing it with like the intention of like making music publicly. It was like an outlet. No, I'm the type of person. I was making music and no one would know I was making music. would know I was making music. I was writing that shit for myself. Okay, so I know that you I think the first video that you dropped at least from your YouTube channel right now was like six years ago. Yeah. Was that the first time you started dropping your music publicly? So it's more okay. I felt like it might have been more music in the stash. Were you dropping music on SoundCloud too? Yes, you were. Okay. Okay. Okay. So what was the very first song that you decided to drop publicly? Wow. So the first song publicly that I ever was on that was on SoundCloud was actually with my son, Kev, that's right here. It's a song called For My Niggas. We took it down off YouTube though. It was amateur and shit. You feel me? Why? No, it was the it was the very, very beginning. So it was like get your homie up the block to shoot the video. Uh huh. Looking back at it, you feel me? We could have done better, but we was, but you know what? I feel like there's always two sides of that because sometimes people like keep their stuff up so that they can like track the progress. Like, yeah, you see, this is what we really came because like you could see Fabi's old videos and you be like, that's, that's cool when you finally get there. I feel like when you still running, people don't want to see you struggling. Like they look at it like nigga, you fucked up. Okay, that's interesting. I see what you mean by that. Okay, so would you really upload it once you get on? So, okay. So what does like the thought process behind like being someone that's keeping your music to yourself to deciding to release that publicly? What are like the types of things that go through your mind when making that decision? It was, it was a lot of friends, you feel me? Like around that time is when I started this group called Sabotage, that's the brand I got on right now. Shout out to those. We're gonna get into it. So it's like, I always believed in myself, but I did, I did rapping just like I said for myself. It was a great event. But once people found out, like I had the talent and they they telling me like, yo, bro, you going crazy? Why this shit not out? That's when I finally started feeling like, nah, like people fuck with this shit. Let me let me test the waters. So how did you feel when you start first started putting your music out? Because I know sometimes it's hard to like gain that traction right away. Like how, what was your what was your initial thoughts? I feel like I was really hype. I just wanted people to really like hear what I had. A lot of people didn't really know like I was rapping. They ain't really understand that type of shit. Because me on a day to day basis, I'm mad chill. I'm mad. Oh, you seem very like laid back reserved when they can start rapping. They like, damn, he really could go off. So it's like, you know what, not only do you go off, but like, you're very vulnerable in your music. Like, I feel like you put a lot of your life story into into the music that you make, which I think also makes it like very good to listen to because I feel like it's connectable and relatable for a lot of people. So I think that that level of vulnerability also should go noticed because you spend, but you also like you could tell that it's something that you're doing because you generally have a passion for it and you just getting I guess like getting your feelings out. Yeah, you getting your thoughts out. So when you think about your progress from making music on your own and to now, what are three words that you will use to describe like your progress as an artist? Three words. I leveled up. Okay, leveled up in what ways? I feel like everything you feel me in terms of content, I found ways to like keep myself more like active in the music. It was like the younger Java was like, I did music, but I feel like I did a lot of other shit that took up a lot of my time. I feel like now I know how to like space my time around the music. So I get more of a better outcome from that. Okay. And how would you say like the support is? I know you said that your friends were like champion championing you to like start putting your music out there. How is your support system? That was when you younger you feel me when you get older, the support system is really yourself. You feel me like real shit. It's like, of course you got people that are with you every day, but at the end of the day, you got to want this for yourself. Of course. When you hit a certain age, I feel like no one around you gonna want some for you when they don't got nothing to do with them. If you get what I mean. So you think everybody operates with another motive? Yeah. Really? So you don't feel like you have like people that are genuinely like in your corner who really like want you to win without course, but it's not many of that. Okay. So how would you describe your sound? Like if you had to pinpoint what your sound is, what would it be? You know what's crazy? What? I don't know. Like when I think about my sound like it's never a specific like thing about it. Like today a nigga a nigga in my job was telling me like yo bro I listen to your tape and like you sound like why be in cool day and I'm like I'm weed. Yeah. I never thought of it. So I feel like when it comes to like your sound like I don't know that shit. Like I feel like the people could tell me but for me it's just me. You feel me? I sound like myself. That's interesting. I don't have anybody on the top of my mind that I will compare you to, but I think it's very raw and real. And I think it's very different than what is like blowing up right now. Specifically you know right now drill is like very big especially in New York. But I think that whatever you're doing, keep doing it because it sounds great. So now like I said before, we're in a time right now where drill is like such a big thing. You wouldn't identify yourself as a drill artist. So how is it as shot out? Shout out the drill artist though. Not saying that is a shot out of them. No. And I don't think that anybody would have taken it that way. I mean everybody can't be a drill artist. So not to say you can't. All right, whatever. Let me keep going. But how is it as an artist who doesn't fit into that drill space trying to make a name for yourself when drill is what's big right now? I don't feel like it's as hard as people make it seem. I feel like people want to hear something new. You feel me? You hear drill every day. It's going to hit a time where it's like niggas want something different and you might as well be one of the first niggas with that instead of following that wave when it's hot. Yeah because I feel like there's a lot of people who say like their music gets overlooked because it's not what like New York is looking for right now or what people are looking for in general because everybody's focused on the drill. But I agree with you to the point where it's like but there are people out there who want to hear something new and not to say that drill is going to run its course but eventually you know people are going to want to hear something so I think that you know for the artists that are focusing on trying to fit into what is like popping right now I think it's okay to do your little one-two but like don't change your whole sound. You don't think so? Like I think I feel like for you to rap drill and for you to be a drill artist like that got to be a life like I don't respect the nigga that's going to come up and know that like since that's a hot lane he going to take that lane and rap all that shit but he don't really live that life. I think it depends on what your definition of a drill song is because the city girls hopped on a drill song like and they are not your artists and that's what I mean by like do you know I wouldn't but that's why I said you could do your little one-two if you want to put a drill song out there just so if you think that's what's going to make you pop and are you doing the rest of your music the way it was cool but don't change your whole sound that's what I was saying. No I get it I just don't get how like how like people could can make the drill shit seem like it's like you could turn it on and off like niggas want to hop in that shit like I look at it like that culture is like because coming from the streets you understand like what the drill shit is and like if you're not taking that lane don't take that lane you feel me like don't try to hop on it for a song or because it's hot right now that's all I'm trying to say so how do you feel about the mainstream artists who are hopping on drill songs because it's hot right now it's corny it's corny you think so so you don't be you don't be listening to her no I listen to mad music I feel like it's mad music out there besides drill yeah and I don't really listen to that much drill okay that's fair so what kind of music do you listen to I listen to a lot of a lot of rap still but just niggas that's not really on that type of because the thing is with me I'm older now so it's like of course when I was younger I was going crazy to the Chief Keeves you feel me shit like that I'm a big Herb fan I still listen to Herb till this day you feel me but the thing is with me I like to hear growth in music you feel me and with the drill artists it's like if you're talking about killing niggas on every song talking about hearing licks and the same type of shit me personally I'm not going to hear that grow for you but when I listen to a nigga like Herb and he talking about coming from that making it out and now putting on for his people it's like for me that's motivational okay so you're not I look at it like a nigga listen to that all it's gonna want to make you do is spend a block and kill a nigga mm-hmm you listen to motivational shit you might make a thousand dollars today you never know so you feel like the content within the drill music is very repetitive yeah okay and kind of like stagnant so that's interesting that's very interesting because I think that a lot of times like something that you just said was you listen to it for motivation yeah I think a lot of times a conversation that's had when it comes to hip hop music specifically is the influence that it has on the people that are listening to it so do you think that like listening to drill music or listening to music that has that kind of concept can I guess influence you into like leading down that like 100% you think so 100% like that's like when you a kid growing up I'm listening to dips that certain shit niggas is talking about hustling making money what you think I want to do when I'm here right I want to go outside and make some money like make some happen but I think like I know we not getting influenced by that shit because we old enough we could tell I feel like these young kids that's listening to that shit they thinking this shit is really real they thinking these niggas is really walking up the block shooting a nigga walking away and nothing happens after that so what would you say to the people that are watching this right now who are heavily involved in the drill space listening to that music who may feel like they're leading down a lifestyle that follows along with the music that they listen to hey if that's your life do that shit if it's not your life don't do that shit that's all I'm saying okay so who who are you listening to right now because you said you listened to the G herbals you was listening to the chief keeps who else are you listening to in the rap scene right now I listen to my people's you feel me I listen to catapult I listen to my broselle I listen to tube sock cam I listen to a lot of my people's you feel me shout out kid shout out just aura you feel me all my people's but in terms of like main stream I feel like it's it's on and off you feel me I go back to a lot of old music because it's like nowadays shit that come out it don't be hot for too long you feel me does that impact the way that you view the song though if it's not hot for a long time not really but when I also mean hot for a long time I mean the song might not have like sustainability okay it's not like timeless okay it's like you hit one time and it's like I got enough out that song I don't want to run it back I definitely agree with you there's very low replay value in a lot of songs that are coming out these days um you just mentioned zoe and y'all have a song together that I really like ROD that was on your latest project shout out zoe yeah y'all really body that but let's talk about it because sabotage the label I don't even need a deal let's really get into sabotage um how did that all start so that started in high school with me joby and vj that's before zeal was even in that shit that nigga was a hooper and shit you feel me but basically just like I had told you after I dropped the first song I had dropped with um Kev I remember going to school after and everyone was like yo bro like you going crazy like oh word soundcloud and shit to to niggas back then was like a big deal yeah it's like getting your shit on like world star niggas don't know how to do that shit right so it's like niggas started hyping this shit and then like my real bros around me which was people like joby and vj they automatically wanted to like get involved in the shit because every day when I'm with them and I'm spitting I'm the type of nigga if I spit a freestyle I'm looking at you like bro what's next like you got something so from there these niggas just started rapping and then it was like we turned around and that's what we was so what would you call it is it like a collective because I know y'all got the clothing brand y'all got the music like what would you say I'll call it like a production label okay facts we do a lot of shit we got clothing we got we got all this you feel me and I noticed that y'all all released your music under the same youtube facts facts um right right now it's me and zeal you feel me it was somebody else that yeah he was my bro vj but um shout out shout out bro he's still doing his thing 650 that's his clothing brand you feel me he went solo with it okay so two things so do you know it's all good um do you feel like um release dropping music on the same youtube channel hurts or helps when it comes to you personally in your brand I feel like as of right now it helps because all right my thing is I got my own shit I'm dropping my own shit I got my own distribution or a lot but when they come to like the visuals and shit like that I try to keep all that together because I look at it like our youtube is like our our shit you feel me it's like a portfolio and so it's like I think it's way littered to go on the youtube page and see drops from several artists then go on the youtube page and see one so it's like if a nigga don't fuck with me on that page then they go to zeal shit they might fuck the zeal do you think that it helps also having a brand that's so versatile like yeah it takes a lot of time yeah I'm sure it takes a lot of time what does the behind the scenes look like like what's what's your role in the whole scenario I'm doing everything so how so how do you break your time up on a day-to-day with focusing on your music focusing on your brand and focusing on your personal life I feel like I make my personal life what the music is so any little time I get for myself I'm not using that as personal time I'm just using it to get some new clothes done doing new sweatsuit um while we're on the topic of clothes did you bring merch because I want a hoodie nah I ain't gonna lie we slacking right now we ain't putting no new shit up because how the fuck are you gonna pull up to talk of this town and forget the merch that's crazy nah we ain't forget we just we just in the works right now I fuck with you but I do want a hoodie okay so um like I said you said sabotage you know what you said sabotage a label you don't need to get out or you don't need a deal do you really feel that way or was you just saying that nah that's a fact why would I sign why would I sign to someone if I could sign niggas agreed um well understood yeah so you think that that's the case long term you're not looking to get signed you always gonna do the whole thing I ain't gonna lie it depends what you're talking yeah because I'm like if the terms is like undeniable then it's like I'm a fool for denying that because um recently you know P just signed uh what's it called quality control oh you told my when you got when you got bought out that's some sell for a million you think that's a lot shit yeah you gonna sell your brand that's worth billions for 30 million for 300 million I just hate that it was during black history month I think that the he probably made a lot more than he was looking to maybe that's why he made that decision I don't know why he made the decision but I asked you because you said unless it's worth it to him it was probably worth it in a situation like that if you get bought out nah I said there is no situation like that I feel like in the black community specifically we need like those strong you feel me those strong labels that's still there like we don't got like how master P and all them niggas was lit back in the days we don't got shit like that we don't got burn man for this generation oh I will say that I was thinking about that too and I was thinking kind of about like brands like BT also where it's like you look at these brands that are for us by us and then they kind of give way to a bigger see it's like I don't want to say it but it's like damn because I think that he did a lot for the hip hop community especially now baby city girls all of that like Migos everybody is like there's so many big names that came from that and I think that for it to no longer be solely his it's kind of disappointing um damn what a time so you you you're not going for that no you're not going for that at all okay um so talk to me about your latest project I know we kind of touched dibbled and dabbled into it um a little bit therapy sessions tell me what your creative process was like we're coming up with that creative process it was a lot of pain in that shit you feel me I feel like yeah just like you said earlier I was being very vulnerable and all of it was just coming from I feel like I had a chip on my shoulder you feel me I never dropped the project before that before that I probably had like five singles out so that was really like me trying to prove myself for real for real and what did you think about after you did it do you feel like I feel great yeah I think it was good yeah a lot of people gave me the same like thing that you told me you feel me like yo you was being vulnerable I really fuck with that it's better than the shit out right now so yeah I feel like it's good so you're happy with the reception that you've received so far yeah what's your favorite song on the project damn um no I got a few I got a few um I feel like it's always kind of like asking a parent who their favorite child is but I feel like every parent also has a favorite child so low key all right so the outro which is Pamela I dedicated that song to my mother yeah that's what I thought she was gonna say it meant the it meant the most to me because of the what the song what the song was about but in terms of like just lyrical ability and flow wise I fuck with 40 story okay I feel like I really was like on some storytelling shit you feel me that remind me of like you feel me when meek male had the rico story and shit like that it bring me back right I'm trying to bring that vibe back okay so now that's interesting because you just recently hopped on blockwork and you performed wasn't it sabotage you no what was it survival sorry the s's um you perform survival so how do you choose which songs you perform on platforms like that because that wasn't one that you named is one of your favorites yeah so what goes into that decision because I remember even putting the project together I was I was playing some of this shit to my son's and he was actually telling me not to fuck with that shit you feel me really oh really yeah he's like yo it's it's all right bro you got better shit then I remember like I'm saying down one day it was probably the final day where I uploaded all the songs to um distro and in my head I'm like nah this song going into Pamela is really like amazing because I feel like I was starting to be vulnerable yeah survival I completed Pamela I was really vulnerable so it like I viewed that as the best way to undertake yeah but the reason I chose to do that for the blockwork because surprisingly a lot of people told me that was their favorite song off the shit I really like that song I like Pamela too because I could tell that that was really coming from a personal personal place I feel like people like survival because of the beat yes survival you know I'm sorry but what happened week was where you was performing and your business in the back like but what you were saying was low key like some real shit but I was like yeah I could tell they were all locked in they tried they tried to be supported but it's hard not to bump like that even though you took some real shit like we say you know you putting your pain on the track it really was like oh but this shit bumped though um so okay so I think that that was very interesting so now when it comes to like the stuff the content within your music how do you feel when it comes to translating that into like real time real conversations because sometimes it can be very hard to open up um verbally like in conversation as opposed to putting it in the track how does it how do you feel about like people approaching you about the stuff that you talk about in your music uh I don't know if I'm not comfortable with that I'm not the biggest verbal person and that's probably why I'm so good at the music because I could just put all of that shit in there right I don't really want people pulling up on me like yo bro why you sitting out in that shit yo that's how you really feel you fucked up you good bro right and that's why I wanted to ask you because you know not everybody wants to talk about it it's like I'm putting it out there that's like we said before that's your outlet but it doesn't mean that I want to actually converse about it got you I got you I got you so um you do have a few different collabs on that project what are your thoughts about collabs overall how do you choose who you want to collab with and work with so to be honest I I did mad collabs before you feel me I feel like before me really dropping a lot of my music that was how a lot of people would hear me you feel me on collabs so with this project I really wasn't trying to go collab crazy the only reason those collabs ended up even going on it was because the songs fit the um the basically the the topic of what the project was okay those specific songs didn't fit in it probably would have just got it so when you made the songs with the collabs it wasn't with the intention of putting it in the project initially not really got you okay I got you I got you I got you so I make music it's more of like um it's it's free thought and then after it's like that's when I could pick pick it together and say nah let's go with this I always wonder that sometimes when I'm listening to projects like what was the intention behind this like what were the songs written for the purpose of um this album or was it like like you said piecing it together based on what's unreleased and what flows together um because SZA right now oh my girl she her album has me in a chokehold but I'm not even gonna lie there's an unreleased um an unreleased part of her song the one I guess I gotta go and she really bodied that she was really talking her shit and I'm so sad that she didn't include it in her album so that's why I'm saying like I really wonder like what goes through like you as an artist what goes through y'all minds when it's like this is what I'm putting in my album versus this is what it's what I'm not I feel like a lot of all this probably go through that though because I feel like if I let some people hear my unreleased they'll be like yo bro why you didn't do this right so how do you feel about keeping your unreleased tracks like do you keep them with the intention of one day maybe putting them out or you got something that you know is just gonna be in a tug it's a couple it's a couple that might stay in a tug I feel like you know you feel me when it's really that one and you know when it's like no I could I could I could pass on do you know or you go based on like the feedback that you get from other people too nah I don't just go strongly off the feedback because people change their mind every day that's true so you feel it for yourself okay so um like we kind of talked about already also like you're you seem very reserved not a man of many well I feel like you're doing a great job though conversation I feel like this conversation is flowing um how are you when it comes to performing though performing I feel like I do a great job in performing you feel me okay I had some good performances I feel like one of the best performances I had was last year ruckus unity um unity fest that shit was crazy you feel me me and my son Kev killed that shit it was mad people there showing love okay was they they was singing your song they was rapping uh because I always wonder that like from an artist's perspective like when you're performing and people don't know like what the words are that go with your song like is that motivation for you to like keep going so that they could really start fucking with it like how does that make you feel okay so you like you when you when you first start performing of course you're gonna go out there you might feel a little anxious because you're looking at people and you don't know if they fuck with you right right when you actually get into it and you're moving around and you see they start fucking with it that's when you get even hyper I agree with energy burst because it's like yo all these people fuck with me and I think a lot of times the audience also feeds off of the artist energy too and sometimes like I've seen performances like for upcoming artists where I think that they get in their head about the fact that people don't know the words and like people not really vibing with them at first and then it kind of like brings down their performance but it's like no keep doing your big one because people are gonna be in tune like if you believe it for yourself like people gonna right so that's what's your favorite part of performing my favorite part is interacting with the crowd you feel me okay would you crowd surf I don't even fuck with shit like I'm not really dancing on stage or doing nothing crazy I'm just rapping you feel me yeah but I'ma turn up a little bit yeah I didn't think you were gonna say yeah but I just wanted to see what she was gonna say um so what's something like in the vein of being like reserved and stuff um what's something that you think that is like interesting about you that people don't know or that they wouldn't know interesting damn um hey I know you got something like that people wouldn't know yeah I'm but if like I'ma give you like five seconds if you can't think of something and it could be something that people know I ain't got shit for that all right what's something that people wouldn't know that you think is interesting I'm a fly guy you feel me get real fly you feel me smooth nigga you feel me you are a fly guy okay so I can share all right well hold on because fashion week is among us right now new york fashion week specifically so mr. fly guy what are like your top like fit essentials we're gonna start off with the fit essentials and then I want to know your favorite brands mm fit essentials I feel like you gotta have a good hat you feel me either gray if it's if it's a if it's a black nasty you tweak it you feel me we don't do those damn I haven't heard a black nasty in a long like I haven't heard somebody say that it's so you feel me hit flat but you feel me this matter them shit you feel me nice little beanie you feel me I feel like the accessories and shit is what really bring out the fit right you wear regular fit I got a regular sweatsuit on you feel me but the beanie hard you feel me got that sit on oh okay and your favorite brand sabotage we know yeah but let me get a couple more of your favorite brand I don't want to put too much out there people be I'm not you gay keeping my real shit though um I fuck with rude you feel me they got a couple hard pieces it really depends though I feel like a lot of brands they too trendy and it's too much people wearing that shit so I kind of I go a little low slow class with it you okay I hear you you know you feel me I hear you and it's nothing wrong with that how important do you think like image brands like clothes all of that is to an artist with me personally I feel like that's my image so it's important for me but I feel like if you make music like a nigga like J Cole like they don't give a fuck yeah you got a little more flexibility but I'm talking about getting flying the music so they expect the nigga to be fly right and real life um something I also wanted to ask you about was your free styling because you something I think is okay something that's been happening recently when it comes to like the hip hop scene is there are a lot of freestyles that are happening but they're not really like freestyles yo I'm really freestyle you really freestyle no I know and I and I saw um you and Kev actually did an interview and y'all was doing like your freestyles and you was like yeah I'm rolling they ducking me right now I'm supposed to be killing that shit right now wait what why they heard they ducking me that's cool uh but you were you like before you even started you was like yeah I'm coming up with this off the dome and then you was just spitting and I was like wow because now it's always like pre-recorded it's like you know it's not really off the top um with the exception of something because there are artists as they they do anything shout out shout out to all artists that has been on like 105 doing anything because I know those a lot of those are freestyles too but you really been doing your thing um so how do you feel though as somebody who genuinely naturally freestyles um seeing they're already made freestyles like do you feel any gone away no I don't hate I don't hate because I feel like as long as the outcome is fire it's like I can't hate on how you got to it but I just view mine is more like natural and organic like even if I'm here and I slip up while I'm saying it the next line I'm gonna make I'm gonna go even harder because I know now nigga I just slipped up so right me with a punch line right so something that I was also talking about with one of my friends was freestyles don't always have to be off the top of your dome I don't know like that's that was what the conversation was does it have to be off the top of your dome or does it have to be free from the style that you usually do all right so this is my rule for a freestyle if you got a song and it's in the cut you never use that shit and you spit a verse from that shit and say it's a freestyle it's not a freestyle bro dead ass it's not a freestyle it's your unreleased so a freestyle is only what you come up with on the spot all right if you don't come up with it on the spot you had to write it with the intention of it being your freestyle and then you know okay so no repercussions okay and that's and that's your song don't use the verse from your song and say you freestyling let me find out that's what I already know that's what I do I can't even say let me find out I know how to go so um I'm gonna challenge you right now give me like I don't know just go until you want to stop what it's a beat it's a beat as long oh damn you can't do an acapella yeah I really just put you I'll put you on the spot OD the acapella giving me too much all right what if I don't gotta be I don't even think anybody's prepared because I really just pulled that out my ass but right now too it's just like like yeah but they already know the vibes like I just put you on a spot just to see like I'll start I'll start beat boxing let me damn all right all right it's fine maybe we'll catch you at another time I don't even think anybody was prepared wait I got an iPad that's what I'm saying oh the iPad died did it oh no it didn't oh it didn't oh it didn't all right we're gonna have to edit this part out um but in the meantime um let's talk about what you have planned for this year are you like a new year new me type of person are you just a go with the flow type of person uh I wouldn't say new year new me but you definitely got a upgrade and switch up the way he was doing shit from the year before but my plan so far for this year is um heavy content okay to keep pushing this project you feel me it's a real good project I just gotta get the people to to hear that shit okay um anything outside of music that you're looking because you said content is it music related content all of that is music if it's not music it's for the clothes you feel me okay me personally that that's that's me personally what you want to say me sounded like there was more to go along with that no okay all right well I'm still I didn't forget about your freestyle I'm over here looking at um tight gotta be hard damn you see now this is just too much pressure because now I gotta go and see if the beat is nice it's not it's cool how I'm sounding we good hey job hey yeah we going off the top again you feel me shout out talk of the town hey look they was doubting on me and that's real they don't really know how I feel I was really like deeper than feel really dunking from ops on the court I was just hanging niggas they talking but they know and we both for the sport I was hanging them niggas they talk they was never outside when it's dark I was trying to put niggas on game they was really just looking for fame I was telling that shorty the moment I'm making she never look at me the same and now she gonna look at me like Jav you done switched up but a nigga done came up like I'm walking around and I got big bucks like and I tell that bitch like and she got a bus up and go never do life I'll be switching on the new wife and I'm fucking on the shorty and she's knowing that she do right and I tell him when she do bad and I tell him what they do like I ain't even tripping over the law I'm like I'll be on in the spot when the time right and I tell him like look out you're my look out if we ever do a lick don't you know what you did that though you did love me because a lot of niggas can't do that you the beat could have been a little better than all right don't start coming for don't start coming for my beat because you was like this beat type 5 listen now that was my first that was the first one that I pulled up I just picked like I just picked a random one but I think that you did good for being first of all you did good but like for being put on the spot like that with a beat that you didn't hear before I think I think I was good so um okay so is it anything else that you feel like you know we should get into before we wrap this up any specific things that um you feel like we should look out for I know you said content pushing the project um anything else that you want to touch on uh yeah you feel me shout out the brand you feel me go look up the website sabotage bk we gonna have a whole bunch of new clothing for the new seasons a lot of new music stay tuned for all I got a new music video on the way for can't let it slide okay that was the intro for the tape a lot of a lot of shit in the works right now you know what I meant to ask you to like are there any New York artists that you would like to work with I know what you said about collabs already but like that's a good question um I don't really listen to a lot of New York people so this is a crazy nah I feel like I will fuck with I'll fuck with like a Dave East you feel me I feel like that'll be a good feature mm-hmm I feel like I really fuck with Jim Jones you feel me I grew up on dips that heavy I feel like some shit like that I go crazy that is the Jim Jones feature okay and then what about outside of New York who would you like to work with outside of New York outside of New York G Herbo gotta give me a feature you feel me I feel like I'll kill that shit mm-hmm that was actually a G Herbo type B word mm-hmm all right I'm tripping out of people's eyes it wasn't really my sneeze please okay all right so G Herbo that's it uh that's like no not really um I'll work with I feel like I would I really fuck with raw wave for like his pain type shit mm-hmm I feel like that type of feature would hit I fuck with Adele Adele wow you're the second person I said that I'll be outside that and you know it's funny because when you were talking about people that you would work with I'll be all popped in my mind and then he but he also said that he would yeah he called he called himself something like the rap Adele or something like that the hood Adele something he said like that we are Adele definitely does go crazy um now when it comes to collabs though do you look for people or would you be looking for people who your answer kind of already answers this question people who compliment your sound versus people who sound similar to you obviously Adele does not sound like you so so when you um are looking for a collab it's more so geared toward who you think would compliment your sound but I feel like also you want to you want to get in different lanes sometimes you feel me like the reason I say Adele because that's like that's a global lane yeah it's gonna sound different than the shit I make but it's going ahead yeah okay well thank you for stopping by I feel like this was a great conversation um make sure you have some better be true whoa whoa whoa listen we don't usually have people do free styles on here no this was like I really just like threw you into the fire just now that's how y'all know I'm nice I really did I really did like I we don't usually do that so don't come for my beat okay I had little time to prepare um but yeah shout out to social so that everybody knows where to find you yo um jav on instagram ja2vs2 underscores follow me on twitter to moneybackjav the youtube is sabotage you feel me sabotage.bk the website sabotage.bk and yeah shout out talk of the town too you feel me I fuck with y'all yeah shout out to you we fuck with you too thank you again for coming