 Wel, gyma'r toffi TV, mi yn Tom agon nhw'n have a chiat about centre backs quite obvious and confirmed by Carlo Ancelotti that Everton do need a centre back at the moment and are in the market for one, more than likely just alone. Obviously Mason Hullgate out for six weeks, another six weeks at least and Jarrod Grant wait now out for a month as hast and that's it and Lewis Gibson of course has joined Redding on loan so Everton are down to just two fit centre backs at the moment at the club. We've got obviously three players who've been mentioned quite heavily over the last couple of weeks and one that's been going on for a while and so we just thought we'd have a little chat about the need for a centre back. So before we get into these, we desperately need to really now to get one. Yeah, I think after the brand-weath injury, feel like it's pushed it along a lot. I mean Hullgate as well, there's two out and then they've gone, they've let Gibson go on loan which you're hoping then there's obviously someone coming in if they've let Gibson go. But yeah, I think it's more needed now than everything like last summer we left it, well we didn't do it did we? So I think. But then I suppose I'd say with that summer's last summer it worked out because Hullgate developed didn't it? Yeah, I think they stumbled across it. This year, we haven't got that option. Yeah, I think they stumbled across that. Oh yeah, well I think they were going to let him go. Yeah, I mean he was playing at West Brom and right back when he, he still had a good Sam neighbour I think. I think even like last year we were going to help Zoom and get back and he put all our eggs in one basket with that. And hopefully now that's sort of the lame from that. And if they can't get the first man then they go with the second and if they can't get the third but they need someone. What do you think the profileist are looking at? What do you think it's, because we've obviously got two big stoppers playing at the minute in key in the meaner. So do you think we're looking at someone who's got that piece? Well yeah it's someone who can come out of the fence and go break the lines isn't it? You can find the person, you can find Calvert Lewin or you can find Rich Charles. It's someone who can sort of not take time but can sort of get involved with the person because obviously we know Michael Keynes got his limits. We know me and he's a little bit better on the ball you'd say but I feel like he does want that ball playing defender. So hopefully he does get it, I mean I think don't forget me long, I think if you get someone who's a bit like Michael Keynes. Then you're open, Holgate comes back quick because then you can be that ball playing central defender. I mean hopefully he goes and switches on to the right hand side. But yeah I think that's the profile, I mean I think Gabrielle shows you the profile and you were after when it. I mean he looks like a very good sign and for Arsenal though. As I say this plays out there very similar I mean there's not many, he's not a unicorn is he Gabrielle? So there is some out there. Let's go through the names that have been mentioned and obviously for Kyle Timore he appears and I think it's quite clear. He's evidence number one option. It's been complicated by the sending off of Christianson last week. I think it's Chelsea against Liverpool. Everton reports way that it was very close and then Frank Lampard has had a change of heart again, which is what happened 12 months ago with Kate Zuma and Tamori. They ended up selling David Louis to Arsenal and Tamori was off. So Everton and by all accounts the player wants to come as well. This lad's got his good on the ball and he's quick as well isn't he? Well he can play that left side defence. I mean as we were saying before with Holgate he sort of looks at the goalkeeping and he can't bring it away with his body because he hasn't really got a left foot so he's not comfortable with it. So I think him I think you'd see a lot better more style of play with Everton if he could get some one of that profile. I mean he's not left footed naturally but he's very comfortable with it. When you're watching for Chelsea, which is quite surprising that he just got left out of the team completely. I thought that was a bit strange of it because I thought he was handled the Premier League quite well, especially coming up from championship where he done well at Darby. You look and think well they've saved themselves nearly on £58 million there with someone like him. Obviously they don't see him as a future central defender so yeah. I think he's very good in the sense of bringing the ball out fine and players through the lines. I think that's what with the central defenders at Everton. They can't punch it through, they cannot get it through. Holgate can do it but you're coming from an awkward position. So I think with him I think it'd be the best things. Would you have a buy? Well I mean that's what you'd hope for. You don't have a bit of a dream. I mean I guess one thing it does if you take him on loan it gives you the year then to look for, if you can't get him, who's similar to him. Especially if it works out it's like we give ourselves now to next to you to identify someone. Because obviously without Covid we'd have had Gabrielle it was done practically wasn't it? And obviously things changed and for whatever it is. It's always happened innit? Well listen, whether the pot of money would have meant we couldn't have gone on loan or however it worked I don't know but he's ended up harassing and he looks at the player. So it'll give us a guess that amount of time now to identify the next Gabrielle that you should because he isn't a unicorn. You know I like to like to say Nia Catty it makes a thing he's left footed six foot four or six foot three in Gisgwll but you know obviously. Another French one. Yeah but like so there's other players. There's sons of them. You know so someone like Tymori on loan gives you that buy, you get that time. Yeah I mean it depends on how the club see Branthwaith and how they see Gibson. Yeah of course yeah. I mean did he look at Gibson and think just give him a year at Redden and then bring him back and then he starts. He looks very comfortable on the ball Gibson he doesn't very well at Fleetwood. So I think I mean he might be off the he might be a year off maybe two years off but I think Everton it's sort of they've got to start producing. It's now or never really. They can't as I said you can't really be looking to sort of develop players where they are in the league and things like that. Everton needs to be challenging for Europe now. He can't wait two three years for players unfortunately we're just not at that position. So I think he will be the perfect. He'll be the perfect thing for Holgate as well. I think he compliments each other. Especially with Keane. Keane's just does the dog work. Don't he I mean he's obviously this season I thought he's become a lot confident in his playing. Yeah he has. I mean he's seen it when he first come he was sort of a bit panic he didn't unsure of himself and things like that. Hopefully a player like that takes that side away and you can just deal with defending. Definitely. He's had a 117 career appearances for goals played obviously in a championship and that's a good I always think that's really good because it toughens them up a bit. It was excellent for Dabi like you said and obviously he's played well for Chelsea and even scored an absolutely well. He for Chelsea at Wolves last season from about 35 yards. He played nearly like 30 games for Dabi. So he's got the experience. He's got the experience and I think what you see as well is when you see Keane Lee doing it in the Premier League he's done it in a team where he was developing last year. So he never really had it. He went in like a dominant side and I know he done well but he was still you know struggle. Still lost games. Yeah exactly so but for that first six months I thought he handles himself very well I thought he put himself in the shot window in it. Definitely. Chelsea played a funny business it's highly up to him. Well after she fingers crossed but I mean at the moment I'd say it's looking it's looking less than 50-50 but hopefully that could change. It's the Christiansen thing isn't it? That's the issue. Rudig is now saying he wants out he's left out the 18s. So well after well after she hopefully it can happen but if it does. Have Chelsea been linked with any other defenders? I don't think they have actually. No they were like making for Tiago Silva to be fit aren't they? So whether they were just worried about him for the first two weeks but he's training again now and obviously Ben Chill wills come and he's still got Aspel Aquetta who I think is good in the three at the back. So I don't know we'll see. The next one we'll look at is Towson Adderabio who's at Manchester City 22 years of age 23 in December. He's had 79 appearances albeit mainly the loan and three goals he scored in his career. He's a player who apparently doesn't want to stay now at Manchester because he's not really been given a chance and now he's highly rated very highly rated. I think he's won 6-4, 6-5. He's a big lad. He's a big lad. He's obviously got a lot of good attributes but I know you're a little bit you're not convinced by this one. It's not that I'm not convinced it's just like is he ready to go fill in in the team right now. My opinion I don't think so I mean he comes up well on stats and you look at it and you think he wins near on 70% of his defensive duels or 70% ran that area of his aerial duels but when you start looking at the video like I was saying to you before he's a bit passive. He's not aggressive in his tackles to go in as a safe flatten someone or just to know that you're there. You're there with like carriages and like make a ritchit on all and he was saying like on Monday night he was saying as soon as I get on that pitch I'm in and I'm letting them know I'm there and where aim I think he's just at that age where he's not here a man to start showing that aggressiveness on all that board of thing. I mean on he'd be brilliant to develop you've got to look at it in the sense of who's he going to stop then to develop to stop Gibson is it worth bringing him in and then what happens next year so for you then before we carry on obviously we're toast and I look at the last player who's being mentioned what would you do because obviously we've got you've got Jeri Mina and we've got Michael Key now Michael Key's just signed an extension so he's not going anywhere Jeri's got three years left so obviously next summer it's the two years and the two years when you either give him a new contract or you sell them so for you what do we do then this summer do we just bring in a loan literally for a short term or would you still be if it was some more he say would you then be making the decision on me in the next summer then and giving him a year to prove himself Maybe it all depends on how the club the club might say it and go well we've got two lads there who can play that and they might be highly rated at the club so they might go and everything is to get in a player who's sort of done it in the Premier League and he's going to come on loan for a year it'll help him and it'll help us in the future where we can develop him for the year but then we've got then Gibson and Bramfwyth in it it's how you're going to look at it maybe they go the day on the line where if they can't get some more then they start looking at older players where they can come and do a job for two seasons where you know if you're off the top in the edge you've got small ones small ones a bit of a thing a lot of people just switch that way but as I say though if you watch small one you play well in Italy he played well so you look at him and he's 31 in November but then you look at him and you're looking for 18 million which is a bit I don't think they might get that form you're looking at 15 million for a player you've got to weigh it up haven't you, you've got to see if he'll come in and do a job the best option then is it's alone and Tomori fits what it is with Tomori when you're looking at players and you're looking at your scouting players it takes the doubt out of can he do it in the league because he's done it so that the questions with him are not on Tomori because he's done it so you become it's a bit of a shorting and it's on Tomori every player risk but he's less of a risk because he's been before players in the past he's young enough he's young he's short he's got the face of what the Premier League's about he's had taste of games at Dabi and a hard league a lot of people think it is a big jump but to develop and do well the way he did, he did do very well so yeah I think I imagine Tomori more than him because I think with him I think it's more so when Holgate does come back how many games is he going to get if you've got me and Keane and Holgate fifth we haven't got Europe so you're hoping we progress in the Cups you might get his game so you've got to get him his games but yeah I think but then I guess if they feel like he can oust me in a role Keane then that's the thing isn't it and I mean if he called I mean I don't know whether he's going to say me that's their thing I think he might do he might do I mean we looked at him we looked at him on West Brom and he was the first time I've seen me and started questioning him a little bit because it was great at space yeah it was it might have been one of them days it might have been one of them days it might have been one of them days because he's one of them days one Christian is the best and he's the villain on and so and then the final player that's been mentioned since Jaggerlyw'r I think is John Clayte to Deebow who has obviously had a part alone a player who's spent time on loads of other so the least of all of the three we've looked at and scored one goal. I know you feel like he could be a defensive midfiel player, but he is a centre-back by trade I guess, so what are you feeling onto Diba? I mean the question is with him is the short professional appearance of the games he's played. That's the question with me. I mean you went to Shaleche, I think he played ten games I'n sielch y rhan a'r tannag, nid i'n goryngydd, dyna'n groein yn, dath diddyn nhw'n helpu'n... Am i'n llwch bach nawr, yn sielch y byddai'r MS-forum. Not a great way, sorry, not a great team to go and develop on that. Dyna ni'n rhi'n helpu'n helpu'n sylfa i'n sôn seith ymstancers when they come back and, you know, we got caught at brain but, you're going to get that he's only 20, you're going to get decision making. Questions about like what he's going to do. He's 20, you're going to get that even if he comes here, he might be brilliant for a game but he's going to do something like, you go, what's he done there? Cos he's developing, that's what I'm saying. Out of the three, he's probably the most talented as what he's doing. But as I say, as we were talking then, I think he'll be the one who's probably going to push you the key and all me in and out. I think out of the three of these, I think he'll be the one who, if he does hit the ground on it, I think he's the one who's got the big upsides. I mean, I think Shelcharrad, like a 25 million. Yeah, the 25 million pound agreement. Was that Euro or something like that? No, no. But yeah, 25 million Euros, I think. I mean, for the 20-year-old French. But he's very highly rated, I mean, he went from Toulouse, he was very highly rated in, he went to Barcelona. I mean, there's not much things else that you can see. He's very high level, sorry, high sealant. So, yeah, I think out of the three, I mean, he has got more question marks than Samori, but if he cuts at the ground on it, listen, if he plays with Cain, or Meiner, or he has sorts of got that, as I say, experience. Alongside. Alongside, and maybe if he's going with Holgate, maybe it could be a little bit. Inexperience risk, but I think he's one that, if Covid-19, and you sort of seen it as alone in the next year, you've got a year to sort of look around with an option to the 28 million, then maybe it would be one, but I think, Evan, I've got to be very practical and very assured of who to bring in now. I think, for him, my take on to the EBO, and I watched a lot of the shelter games that were locked down in particular, he was all over the place. He's quick, he's good in the air, he's strong, but he's also ill-disciplined, and I don't mean flying into tackles and getting sent off, I mean, leaving his position. Now, whether or not... That's an experience, don't you think? There'll be an experience, and it also could have been Wagner's instructions, carry the ball, I don't know. He had a high progressive run through stats. So, I mean, you watch shelter and he probably has told me you need to go through the lines, but... He takes some risks though, and I look at him and I just think of him, if we were in the ground, he plays with his socks on his ankles and he's sent to the back. Oh, don't say that. And he likes to dribble, and I just think, imagine the street end with him dribbling with his socks on his ankles. It's the recipe of disaster in it. But, like you said, he's got all the attributes. If you get him right, he'll be special. Yeah, I mean, all three of them have got doubts over them. More or less so to more, I keep saying, but if you're looking at loan options, you're not going to get a finished asset. You're just not going to get it. I mean, I seen the other day we were linked with Maximovich, I think, from Napoli. Yeah, yeah. But that was looking out of three, mate. East 28. East 28, but... Not the quickest though. Yeah, not the quickest, but, nah. And she lotty knows him. Knows him, so... You look at it that sense, it's free to dance for you. Could that be the way, I mean... There's all kinds of options, but I think the way you're in the room is, you know, let it go on for that young, quick loan at the end of it, maybe. I think of him, I think of Tadibo, or it was Tumori, or any of them there, but I think out of them too. I think if you got one of them, I think they'd have a very good chance of signing them in the summer if you did play well. Yeah, yeah. So maybe that's what to look at then, and then, again, like we've said, the gift is 12 months to six months then. It does, yeah. And also, Brantwick and Gibson, they could look. I mean, they had a Brantwick, still a baby, he's played four Premier League games, 18. He might be just about to be 19 or whatever, so he's a baby daily. I guess the ideal for him would be... If Everton got Tumori, say that happened and me ended up with Christmas, and we've got Tumori keen, me and the whole gate, and she's four. Brantwick could then go on loan in January to get him games. You don't want him sitting on the sideline, not playing. You don't want him, because you can't carry five centrebacks. You have to fit, because there's no point. You're looking at the way, do you want the 20s, everyone? You don't want them laying around for like two or three years. You'd start worrying. I mean, we've still got Matthew Pennington. Yeah. 23, I mean. 26. Oh, sorry, is he? 26. I don't know, I thought it was 23. No, no, 25. Do you understand what it's like? No, but that's what I mean if we got to January, and we had those four, we fit you, because right at the end of January, we'll get you the championship loan. You've played at League, so you've played in the Premier League. Yeah, yeah. So we can get you a club for the next five months. You can even League one. League one, yeah, because you step up. Yeah, me, me, me. Play every week. Yeah. Get your game. I'd like him to go to somewhere where I've had an issue with everyone in the past with sending players on loan. They've sort of sent them, and just sent them to clubs, that you'd never ever see them playing like everyone, or playing in the Premier League. Passing, that's what you need them. You need them to go to somewhere who, or a manager, who would have the confidence in playing them, and who can pass them. Well, you could send them to Fleetwood. Well, that's... People like to go to Fleetwood. He's done a good job with Fleetwood, and he's done a good job at Lewis Gibson. He's aggressive as a manager. Teams play decent football, but they also can mix it. Exactly. Someone likes to have a brand, so they go to Barton and look after him, because he's a blue nose as well. And it gives them league won games, and that will only develop him and help him develop so. Exactly. Maybe in few stands, that's probably a good idea. Maybe start looking at, like you see clubs in that, to start making partnerships with clubs. Of course. And you've also got greater stands, and you're comforting Fleetwood. They'll be a relationship there with that. Maybe you do execute that. Interesting. Let us know what you think in the comments section below, and quite clearly in the market for a centre back, who would you go for? Would one of these three players, young and quick, or maybe like Tom Shreve before, would you rather Everton get an experienced player in for maybe a couple of years, but I guess the caveat of that is then, does that damage the progress of Gibson and Brantwick if you're getting someone who's 28, 29? So let us know in the comments section below. Make sure you give Tom a follow on Twitter at TLogic1991. Give the video a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, and if you want more videos, join us on Patreon. See you later.