 So a few months ago, I made a video about native email clients on Linux and my basic question in that video was where were all the good ones and My conclusion was that there weren't really any good ones, but that neo mutt seemed to be the one that I was kind of leaning towards as being my Daily driver. It's the one that I use the most often and it was Good enough for what I really needed it to do since then I've been back and forth between using neo mutt and using things like Thunderbird and a couple other ones and I've reached my limit. I've reached the point where I Cannot stomach native email clients on Linux anymore They're all just universally bad when it comes to something now that doesn't mean they're overall like really really bad Like horrible crashy pieces of software. That's not true But they all have peculiarities or things that are just not good about them. So for example Thunderbird Thunderbird is made by Mozilla and You think because they make a browser that they would at least be able to make a functioning email client, but Not really so while Thunderbird works and it works just fine It also takes up an ungodly amount of memory now Normally, I'm not a big t-totaler when it comes to System resources like I will happily use as many as I possibly can I have 64 gigabytes of memory and I have a fast processor and a fairly decent graphics card, so Use them they're there to be used But when a email client which is just sitting there in the background not doing anything other than perhaps running a Get email command every 15 minutes or something Takes up seven or eight gigabytes of memory. There's obviously something wrong and I don't like it like I don't want my email client to take up that much in resources a couple gigabytes Fine, whatever still seems to be a little overkill, but seven or eight. No Obviously there's a bug there somewhere. I Don't know why I went all prior right there. I don't know But anyway, the just obviously something is wrong in that situation, so You probably are asking well, Matt. Why don't you just stick with Neomutt? Well, the thing is is that Neomutt despite how amazing it is and How much it appeals to the nerd in me? It's not Usable with the way email works in today's Time-frame every email that you get has HTML in it and they all have pictures and all this stuff and well There are workarounds to view that kind of stuff in mutt It's not great It still gives you a lot of stuff that you have to click on a link in order to go see and I don't want to have to Click on a link in my email ever and I say absolutely have to especially not to feel something stupid like an image or something I don't want to have to do that. So mutt was a really good option for email when everything was text-based Now it's not so much a solution that you can get by with if you get a lot of email that is formatted in HTML And unfortunately these days almost everything is so the other things that I had to consider Were that there are other options. So there are things like mail spring There are things like cause mail and evolution and Geary every single one of them have issues That just make it almost impossible for me to use them so Things like evolution does not work. Well without the genome key ring it won't work with any other key ring as far as I can be sure and That means that I almost have to install going on key ring And then there's conflicts between genome key ring and any other key ring that I happen to have installed It's not a great situation. So evolution is off the board Geary is just a little bit too simplistic for my taste and is entirely Too dependent on GTK stuff. So if I'm not using genome doesn't really look all that great It looks fine, but it's still you can tell that there's your thing mission missing and on top of that It doesn't really work all that great with Gmail. So I couldn't use that either and then there was just Probably a half a dozen other ones that I've tried over the last two or three years and none of them really We're able to be the application that I need them to be so I get hundreds of emails every day between the stuff I do for work for the channel things like that I just get a ton of email and I'm one of those guys I don't want to leave it all in my inbox So I almost constantly move the messages that I get where they need to go So I'm always doing email stuff and that is why I have my email clients sitting in the background all the time so I need a application that runs really well does the things that I need to do and Doesn't just hog every system resource the longer it runs I'm looking at you Thunderbird and it just doesn't appear that there is one So this is kind of a follow-up video to that video I did a few months ago where I was talking about the lack of good email clients I'm just done with it. I'm at the point now where I'm just going to use the gmail interface in a Firefox tab and Just call that my email experience. It's not what I want to do. I prefer a native email experience especially when I want to Download some of my email to my computer and have kind of like a local backup of that kind of stuff but like I said, there's just not an email client that doesn't have a fatal flaw and You know, I don't expect perfection. I really don't like it if Thunderbird didn't have this major memory leak I would probably just use Thunderbird because it does provide everything that I need to do The UI isn't too offensive. It has Damian capabilities. It worked pretty well But it has this major memory leak and it drives me bonkers. So for example, I left it running for my computer usually runs for two days before I do a reboot or a Shutdown and I left the Thunderbird running for those two days and at the end of the two days it was using nine gigabytes of RAM and That's not just a one-time thing. It was seven or eight at one point right now It is at four and I've only had my computer up now for like 16 hours. So Like that's not okay. Okay. It's just it's just not and the thing is it's not that surprising So Firefox had a memory leak ages and ages ago where it would just take gobs and gobs of system RAM And it would continue eating system RAM and tell ran out They did eventually fix that but now that now Firefox is doing something Even more stupid where they just keep spawning more and more processes more and more threads on your computer So earlier today, I counted them using vTOP Firefox was using over 300 threads on my computer Which I mean that seems like a lot, right? Especially I mean, it's not like I have 300 tabs open because I don't I have maybe 40 tabs open Which is still a lot, but it's not 300. So I don't understand what that wasn't the point of the video I'm just I'm in a very ranty mood today very anti Mozilla because I keep finding these problems with their Software and just like what is going on there? Why are you so greedy when it comes to memory fix this stuff? It shouldn't be That hard to do So at the end of the day, I think I found the thing that I'm most disappointed in when it comes to Linux and the software available to it the lack of good email clients is the most disappointed thing for me because like I said I want to use native email and I just can't because there's not any good clients and Despite looking for them over the last few months since I made that last video I haven't found a good one So if you know of a good email client that I maybe haven't tried leave that in the comment section below You can leave any other comments you have down there as well I love our conversations down there. 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