 Everybody hears me well. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. It is my pleasure to happen in this World Migration Report webinar. My name is Selene Boloz and I'm the head of the Migration Research Unit. The head of our Migration Research and Publications Division, Mary McAuliffe, was also the World Migration Report Editor. Cannot unfortunately be with us today as it was initially planned. So please allow me to share her sincere apologies, especially as I know how much we have liked to be present today with us to moderate this webinar. So as you may know, the World Migration Report is IOM flagship publication and the reference reports on migration globally. It is IOM main contribution to strengthening the global evidence based on migration and migrants worldwide to support states in policy formulation review processes and to combat disinformation on migration and migrants. The report is published every two years and the latest edition, the World Migration Report 2022, was launched last 1st December by our Director General at the 112th session of IOM Council. We have organized the first virtual events right after the launch of the World Migration Report on the 2nd of December. We are with our Deputy Director General for Operations and this first webinar provided another view of the report and its digital tool. It was widely attended and reflecting actually a never-growing interest for evidence-based information and analysis on migration and migrants by an increasingly diversified audience. And you can find the recording of the webinar on the World Migration Report webpage. Since the beginning of the year, we have started to, we have actually initiated a World Migration Report webinar series to respond to those needs and interests of this ever-growing audience. And each webinar focused on one specific chapter of the World Migration Report. We have started with chapters of Part 1, which provide key data and information on migration and migrants before we return to the schematic chapter of Part 2, which focus on complex and emerging migration issues. So together with the different digital tools we have recently developed, such as the award-winning World Migration Report interactive webpage and our new World Migration Interactive Educators Toolkit that you can find online. This webinar are really important for us because the parts of our endeavor to constantly improve the knowledge on migration and migrants globally. And this is something that is central for us and to research and analysis to go further and not limit itself to a research community, but also reach a vast and diversified audience. So I'm really pleased to see online actually some familiar names joining us today from very different backgrounds. I see some government officials, practitioners, private sector as well, and researcher, of course. And thank you very much for being here with us today. So today we'll be now with focus on chapter 4 of the reports, which explores migration research and analysis. And for this specific 2022 edition, the chapter more particularly focused on recent contribution from the United Nations. So as you will hear today from today's presentation, the United Nations system plays an important role in contributing to migration research and analysis. The organizations, the different agencies, funds, and so on, are uniquely placed to actually gather data given the presence in the field and the relationship with government's officials and governmental bodies. And the UNN system also often acts as a bridge between the research community and policymakers, which is allowing this vital cross-ferstilization between those two worlds. Before passing the floor to our speakers today, please let me just remind you that this webinar is recorded, so you will be able to find it online on YouTube afterwards. In the interest of time, we will keep questions for the question and answer session, the Q&A session, after the presentation. However, you can directly type your burning question if you have one by using the chat, actually in the chat box. I will connect this question and direct them to our speakers today. So without further ado, I'm pleased to pass the floor to my colleague, Dr. Pablo Rojas-Coparri, Rojas-Coparri, who is Senior Research Officer within our division. And I won't read his foot by you, you can find it online. I'm trying to condense the buyers here, but he has a very impressive background, of course. But I'd rather hear from you, Pablo, than let our participants check you by your online. Thank you. Thank you, Celine. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, depending on where you're joining us from today. I'm very happy to be here with you, and very happy to give you a very brief overview of chapter four of the World Migration Report 2022, which if you have not read yet, I will of course encourage you to do so whenever you have some time. I'll try to keep my presentation succinct, also to allow for the words from our fellow discussants and to have an interactive Q&A at the end. I'm going to just share my screen, and if you have any problem, please let me know if it's not working. So, okay, that should be working fine. Right, so we are now, as Celine already outlined, the webinar series that we are undertaking at the division. So we are a chapter four, which focuses on migration research and analysis, and for this particular edition, we are focusing on the recent UN contributions. A short summary of the key findings and the outline of the chapter. This is a chapter that has been present in the last three editions, so from 2018 and 2020, and it's a chapter that we can say that builds on foundation. So it's analyzing and outlining the evolution of migration research and analysis from different stakeholders. In this particular chapter, as I said, we will focus on the UN system, and its role as a producer of knowledge and research on migration. There's a number of reasons why we are focusing on the UN this time, particularly given the adoption of the Global Compact for Migration, the establishment of the UN Network on Migration, and the forthcoming International Migration Review Forum, which will take place in May this year in New York. So we thought it was timely to dedicate a bit more focus on the role of the UN system. I guess maybe just if we had to limit to four key findings, we would say that the chapter covers particularly the rapid expansion of this information on migration and how it has changed the public discourse as never before. Of course, when we started the production of the World Migration Report 2022, we didn't visit the pandemic that ensued and that has changed a lot also in the production of research and knowledge, but not only on migration on many topics, but also on migration. Another key point, another key finding, is that the nature of publishing continues to change. We have already touched upon those issues in previous editions, but we have previously talked about the diversification of the publishing process that differs between white and great literature and the rise in self-publishing. All of those continues to emerge and continue to expand. And what we see is that research outputs, including from the United Nations system, have become more and more diversified to address the needs of different audiences, but also to challenge the expansion of this information. And by these diversified forms, we're talking about data visualizations, portals, blogs, podcasts, and many ways of making sure that we can communicate research to those who are interested in it. As Celine had already said, one of the key finding of this report is the fact that the unique place that organizations in the UN system have, because they are in the field, they can collect data, and they also, because they can act as a bridge between the world of policy and research. As we know, we are particularly interested in applied research and in policy research, and we're in our work, we constantly try to see how we can better bridge the so-called gap between those two worlds. And the final key finding we can say is that COVID-19 has had a great impact on the production of research, has also had, as I said before, generated a large number of disinformation, a large quantity of disinformation and misinformation, but it has also affected the research resource allocation with priorities shifting, and that has, of course, impacted research on migration and other aspects of social sciences as well. But it's interesting also to hear, see how the UN system has been both affected by this changing resource allocation, but also how it has been responsive to it. Moving forward, here it's a little table that I created to summarize more or less how this particular chapter has evolved. So it just shows that, you know, we started, when we started the series back in 2018, we were talking a lot about the increase in the increasing interest in the research and analysis of migration that was taking place at the same time as the nature of publishing processes were changing. At the time, we were talking about increased number of open access platforms. And we even, the first edition in 2018 gives a good analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of academic and non-academic publications. And what was the case for that particular edition and the subsequent one in 2020, was it had a very good overview of the main producer of migration research analysis, particularly by summarizing publications from the main academic journals. In 2020, we talked a little bit about the, we talked about the rises of publishing. We started talking about the importance of an increased recognition that we were seeing about the need for evidence-based policymaking as well as touching on the growth of collaborative research on migration in the UN system. Much to do with the JAU report, which I will mention just after this. And so this brings us to our current edition, where as you see, we have been building on these foundations and we are now decided to focus on the UN system as a producer of knowledge and discussing the gaps between the policy and academic world. And in a context of increasing challenging environment due to disinformation and misinformation. So we, in the chapter as well, you have a summary of the recent contributions which are focusing on organizations which are members of the Executive Committee of the UN network on migration. I understand that this chart is very hard to read, but it's an annex to the chapter, to our chapter. And this chart gives you an overview of the UN system. As you can see, it's quite large and it allows you to understand more or less the different reporting lines and so on. And guess what we can, a couple of things to note from this graph as well. First of all, the huge diversity in terms of structure in the UN system. And also another key point that the chapter makes is that research is being carried out, takes place at different levels in different places in the UN. Of course, there are a couple of bodies which are specifically focused on research, such as a few research institutes, including also the UN University, as well as other bodies which have some reports of the General Assembly, some reports of the Economic and Social Council. But again, to make the point, research is being carried out inside agencies and inside funds as well. So please consult this chart. It's a very useful summary of the world of the UN system represents. And this is a repeat graph. So from the addition of 2020, that we have decided to include again, Annex in this edition. Why? Because it gives us a timeline of the development of both the global compact on refugees and the global compact for migration and the development of the United Nations network on migration. This is particularly relevant because of the impact that the network is supposed to have, not only on the implementation of the GCN, but it just increases a more collaborative approach in terms of migration governance, but also, of course, the development of research and the sharing of knowledge, which is, of course, are all related to the GCN objective number one and also responds to some of the SDGs. So just again, because of its importance, allow me to focus a little bit on the United Nations network on migration. So it was established in 2018 and to help coordinate the UN system support to member states in the implementation follow-up and review of the global compact for migration. So as you understand, the global compact for migration, it's a state led commitment and the UN system is there to support them to meet this commitment in terms of, and to meet the different objectives that are stipulated in the GCN. The network coordinator is IOM which is represented by its director general, Antonio Vittorino, who is then the coordinator of the network. There is a secretariat of the network. It's staffed by IOM, but it's open to the continent from different organizations in the UN system. The role of the secretariat is to service the work of the network. So if you see the network, the network is constituted of 39 organizations from all over the UN system, which are joining on a voluntary basis. And the secretariat then helps organize the work of the network and its assistance to different stakeholders and member states. The leadership of the network is constituted of nine organizations which you can see the logos at the bottom of the slide and they represent the executive committee and what the executive committee is responsible for is to provide guidance to the work of the network, set the strategic priorities that in the support of member state and lead the preparations for the IMRF. The IMRF or International Migration Review Forum is due to take place in May. Its first edition is due to take place in May 2022, so in a few weeks time. And it's in a cycle of four years so it will be then repeated again in 2026 and in between we have regional reviews which take place after. Moving on. Again, I will not take too much time on this slide because we are very lucky and we have the pleasure of having Dr. Dimitri here who is the author of the JIU Report on Strength and Policy Research Update which had a specific case study on research on migration. So this study was done at the end of 2000, published at the end of 2018, looking at the level of collaborative research, an interdisciplinary research that exists on migration in the UN system and had some very interesting findings and recommendations, particularly in enhancing the connectivity and the collaborative approach of the work on research by different UN agencies. As you can see in the slide, one of the findings and its assuming recommendation was to look at a more systematic process of collaboration so it will be very interesting to hear from Dr. Dimitri the extent to which some of these issues were addressed in the system. So I'll move on to the next slide. So then I'll take you through the four main parts of this chapter of chapter four which focus first on the UN system as a producer of knowledge and it's first in this capacity as a data collection. Now you already said at the beginning of my presentation that the UN system is uniquely placed, organizations in the UN system are uniquely placed to collect data because of its presence on the field and because it's closed cooperation with national authorities. There has been a recognition that there is a demand on migration data to better understand migration but also to better formulate migration policy and migration data that arises from the 2030 agenda and it has been reinforced by the global compact for migration and particularly objective one which talks about collecting and sharing data on migration. Again we have to talk that it put this in the context of the publication of the UN data strategy which was published in 2020 and runs the first UN data strategy that runs until 2022. And this is also even to acknowledge the fact that multiple UN agencies that they regularly collect and publish migration data aside from other types of data but we'll focus here on migration data. The main ones that we talk about are UNDESA, UNHCR, ILO which collect data on specific aspects of migration and these are complemented by datasets from other organizations such as OACD or IDMC. IOM of course provides own efforts in data collection for example the displacement tracking matrix and it produces aggregation of data for example through the migration data portal and through the visualization as well including the war migration report interactive that was mentioned earlier on. The UN system also provides capacity building on the research and data collection. One of these examples here is the migration network hub which was launched in March 2021 and it came up as a response to the commitment in the GCM for a particularly paragraph 43 for a capacity building mechanism. This is together with the MPTF which is the multi-partner trust fund. Both together represent this demand or respond to this demand to bring cohesion in the work in the work of all the actors in the network. And so what the network hub does is it aggregates and gathers data including all types of data including reports and so on and classifies them according to the global one of the according to the 33 GCM objectives. Also through cross-cutting teams and by geographical scope allowing then users to browse through a large volume of knowledge and different products. It's also a one-stop shop for accessing documents related to the implementation of the GCM such as all documents published by the working groups of the work the regional reviews and of course it will be the place to go to look at documentation relating to the forthcoming IMRF. The network hub has also a repository of practices which showcase replicable practices which serve as inspiration for actors involving in GCM implementation at global, national, regional and local level. So this is a way for people to try including government stakeholders to look at practices which can be transposed and help them advance their commitments towards the GCM. It finally also includes an expert database which provides access to a range of migration experts around the world such as academics, researchers and practitioners according to their thematic expertise. All the content in the network hub is peer reviewed by members of the peer review roster. Another point that I mentioned already before that the chapter goes into more detail is around the issue of misinformation and disinformation which it acknowledges that it's not a new phenomenon and that academic research has been focusing on it for different aspects of it already such as fact checking the role of debunking the role of online technology in spreading this information and how to minimize its impact. But as was mentioned before the COVID-19 pandemic accelerated exponentially the growth of false information and spread and it made it more difficult to identify trustworthy and reliable sorts of information. So the chapter goes into how that has impacted both migration and migrants through the spread of false information on the role in the pandemic but also it talks about how the UN system has responded to this by creating a number of initiatives such as Verify it takes a community and new things that might be coming forward such as the global migration media academy from the IOM and as well it talks a bit about the impact on the on the resource allocation of research in the UN system and outside. Finally sorry the another point that subsection of the chapter is the collaboration between the UN system and the scientific community. So here it reminds us that there is a long-standing collaboration between different organizations in the system and the academic world that is shown for example through the support of direct support to academic journals such as sub-organizations that include ILO, WHO, UNESCO as well as IOM and UNHCR that focus on migration-related journals. In particular here we mentioned that IOM established the first scientific journal on migration in 1961 which later became international migration and continues to be supported by the organization. Another such journal that is supported by both IOM and UNHCR is the force migration review. Aside from that there are many other collaborations between the UN system and scientific community. In the aspect of migration for example it's notable to mention here that IOM convene the migration research leaders syndicate to support and facilitate the expert knowledge in the development of the GCM and it has since then established a group of migration research and publishing high-level advisors which continues to advise IOM in terms of engagement with academia and publishing. Finally it focuses also on new ways of disseminating migration research analysis focusing on the role of the World Migration Report as a series looking at how we respond to the changing nature of public publishing including by developing new ways of visualizing and sharing data through its interactive which is it's in the second edition now it's an award the first edition more in the world in terms of presenting data and then it also acknowledges the need to tailor the outputs of the of migration research and the content of the World Migration Report in particular through a series of different tokens that were developed to cater for fact-checkers educators and policy makers. So to conclude my final point and I hope I haven't overstepped my time there is three key points that providing evidence-based analysis on migration has never been as critical as it results now on the combination of both increased misinformation but also the continuous politicization of migration across the globe. It's important that we continue to encourage policy makers practitioners and academics to explore migration research and analysis with a critical eye and it's important that we consider we continue to find ways in which we can provide access to this research and analysis. And finally a reminder that the organizations in the U.S. system are best placed to listen, create and share knowledge on migration particularly in order to counteract misinformation but also to help craft more sustainable policy responses which are based on evidence and rigor. So here final slides as to remind you that the World Migration Report will be translating a number of languages in the coming months. So please stay tuned for that and that we are that there will be also access to different resources such as the interactive and the toolkits and so on. So thank you for your time and I'm happy to answer some questions in the question and answer session later. Thank you. Thank you very much Pablo. Timing was perfect. Thank you for that. So I don't have to to chase people for sticking to time and your presentation and I think that's something that's highlighted at the beam of your chapter that you wrote with Mary and that is also said in previous edition but I think that's something you haven't mentioned but it's just as well let me underline perhaps because it also gave like quite a weight to what you're saying is we normally or I mean I would say in the academia when you're working the academia we normally like distinguish between what we call white literature and grey literature. So of course the white being like the academic one which is supposedly of higher standards and quality than the grey one but it's true like when you were talking about the first report back in 2002 we couldn't imagine that a pandemic was going to rise. We couldn't imagine the increase in misinformation and disinformation including that is triggered by social media and different self-publishing endeavors and at the same time we couldn't imagine that the UN and I think there's been a huge improvement in that is that the United Nations Organization for some of them now have really like quality assurance mechanism in place that were previously only used by the academia but now increasingly used by United Nations organizations as well. So of course easy for us to say because we do that for the World Migration Report but we know as well that's the case for other publications. So yes, I shouldn't talk too much because otherwise I don't stop myself and we have someone way more interesting to listen to than myself always say. I'm really pleased to give the floor to our first discussant today with whom we had previously the chance to collaborate. Dr. Petru Dumitriou he is a senior fellow at the Diplo Foundation but we actually started collaborating with Petru back at the time when he was inspector at the joint inspection unit. So that's the GIU and the reports that Pablo was referring to is the one on strengthening policy research uptake. There was a pleasure to collaborate with you Petru and we know you have a wonderful diplomat career but also an academic one with the with your doctorate you watch pieces on the UN reform you have published extensively as well on various topics of UN topics including a book on UN reform as well. So it's a pleasure to have you here and to listen to your comments for the next five minutes. Thank you very much Petru. Thank you Celine and thank you for inviting me to this debate. Of course I'm happy like everybody else but we don't celebrate the international year or happiness we celebrate the report the world report on migrations I'm going straight to the subject trying to make five points in five minutes. The first point is about this relationship between IOM and GIU IOM for those who don't know is not among the 28 participations participating organizations of the joint inspection unit. Yet we had a very good dialogue on the matter and what we found were at least two coincidence IOM coincided with us with respect to the pertinence of our case study on migration. So we we picked up this case study on migration and about the substance and the main conclusion the position and the interest of IOM were for us the test of relevance for the whole report addressing policy research updated U.N. system because of course we discussed not only migration but also the issue of policy research updated in general. The other the other coincidence that I'd like to mention is the the fact that we found elements of coincidence between our conclusion the reports of GIU and the contents of global compact which was known to us after the completion of the collection the analysis of data in preparation for the GI report because you know it is quite rare to see that much substance on research you know in a politically adopted document check my my assertion I think I've never seen in another document that much about the importance of the accuracy of data collection of the research. The second point is also to explain why we choose migration as a topic for a case study while we had probably scores of possible other topics we might say retrospectively that the best reason was that we didn't want to be contaminated by a pro-domo vision of an organization which might have been you know the lead agency in dealing with that issue but it was not the reason at the time at the time the real criteria worked too first of all was the we had in mind the a sample of interdisciplinary research migration is indeed the thematic mandate of a lead organization but it also impinges on on the concerns and activities of other entities in the United Nations system. Secondly we needed an example of collaborative research one that implies at least some form of systematic and institutionalized processes of collaboration among one or more organizations. We did not consult IOM on the terms of reference of our project but we find out that there are a very telling example indeed in this respect and I think I'm grateful that you reproduced some of the information we collected in your report. Number three both the World Migration Report and the JAU report on policy research update identified several such areas that have for which migration is a phenomenon has an impact that was translated into research needs for other United Nations organizations than IOM. I just mentioned the major one economic social environmental human rights peace and security and governance and we mentioned that in the report. In other words what is valid for migration might also be valid for other topics of concern for the United Nations system like the status of women or the children or access to natural resources and others. Point number four your report refers to the United Nations since the global disseminator of facts. I personally applaud this approach because it does not say IOM is the global disseminator of facts. Although in fact it is even if other several organizations produce and disseminate statistics and facts about the migration. Why is it at that point important? What I mean is that in the eyes of the public opinion and even of some better informed politicians they the United Nations is seen as a whole with little or no distinction among the individual protagonists. How many times have you heard or seen news like the United Nations condemns the violation of human rights in Ruritania? Without paying attention if that is the independent nation from independent transporter you know a person from a body of experts or from from an intergovernmental organ like the Human Rights Council etc. What I imply here is that the United Nations system has a collective responsibility about the quality and accuracy of the research products they provide as global public goods because we should never forget that we provide knowledge as the main product of the United Nations system and we whatever we give to do what is a global public good. Number five is to see that to say to those who don't know are not familiar with the giant reports that we focus our recommendations on the enhancing coherence and efficiency in the use of resources in that particular case the resources devoted to research by avoiding duplications unjustified divergences fragmentation. So that is a kind of positive approach but the last edition of IOM reports signals the sensitivity of migration as a topic that might be subject to contestation to polarization and in particular misinformation. Again, ideally for me and I don't see it as very complicated I think that all research allowed on behalf of the United Nations system should ideally be a subject to a kind of soft peer review by all interested in competent organizations because that would mean that we make sure that they know that something is exists already from a very authoritative source so we should not spend money for other for parallel studies and parallel research. So these are my five points if you ask me later a question I will talk about the implementation and acceptance of GI recommendations. Thank you. Thank you very much, Petru. Of course we ask later the question and we'll see we don't have any questions yet in the chats but please participants feel free to even make a comment if you don't agree or if you really agree. I really like to point and that's something that that was clear in the reports all the kind of interlinkages between between the different agencies and you are in organization and the fact as you say and I really like the image that you give Petru when you talk about knowledge as a public good and I think indeed it is a global public good and we have the responsibility to to try to reach a certain standards including in terms of quantity and I think there's like a huge improvement as I said before but it's also a global improvement that needs to be done like across the organizations. So we'll keep my question for you afterwards indeed I'd be super interested to know what are the where where where the implementation of the recommendation you made in your report that's standing at but beforehand if you allow me I'd like to pass the floor to our second discussant who regularly actually collaborate with us um she is Dr Cecilia Cannon who is a senior researcher at the Global Graduance the Graduate Institute sorry for International and Development Studies and she also sits in the board of directors of the Academy Council of the United Nations Systems so Cecilia I don't know actually because there's so many things that you could talk about given as well like the different type of collaboration we've had the chance to have with you including for the development of world migration toolkit for policy officials that is funded by the Geneva Geneva Science Policy Interface in Geneva so which address more like the way we can communicate research and the impact that research can have in policy cycle but I that's going to be a surprise for me because there's so many different perspectives you can take so please the floor is yours and thank you again to be here with us today thank you Celine and thank you and congratulations to you and Pablo, Adrian, Mari and the whole team who worked on the World Migration Report because they really find it such a useful well researched and accessible resource so it's really great what I would like to focus on in in five minutes so I'll be quick is I'll draw out two points that were raised in this chapter and that Pablo also raised in his presentation now which in my view really raising really promising developments in the UN system regarding migration research in recent years and really across the last decade and a half and then I'll add a third point that's really from the recent survey and interviews that we conducted with policy actors exactly on this process in this in this project to develop the policy toolkit the digital toolkit for policy actors in collaboration with IRM's research division and supported by the Geneva Science Policy interface so that's how I'll structure this five minutes so first looking at the chapter that was just presented it really outlines how UN bodies and organizations have come to be a key source of data knowledge and analysis and they really the chapter points to how many of these organizations are really in possession of data on the latest trends and statistics as well as real-time information relating to the changing and evolving nature of issues like migration so the chapter emphasizes that this is really thanks to their work and the networks that they have at the country level and in the field and their close work with policy actors including governments who are their member states local governance actors regional governance actors as well as other stakeholders working at the country level so this produces naturally through its everyday work this enormous rich you know source of data and real-time information on the rapidly evolving issues such as migration so this data and information even before any analysis is really a useful resource resource in and of itself and for many you know decades since the creation of the United Nations even before that with other international organizations you know students and scholars have really taken the time to make use of this data and information and access it but traditionally it's been a very time consuming exercise it's it's something you know where even you know when I was doing my PhD now 10 years ago but you have to go department by department you have to go organization by organization spend time you know rummaging through the archives interviewing people really having to sort of uncover the data and information it wasn't so readily accessible as it is now and so it's you know it's always been a valuable research but what I really appreciate in the chapter really emphasizes this by drawing together all of the different you know bodies within the UN first producing data and analysis on migration research but the real efforts through the developments and evolution of the networks the developments of data platforms and and data centers etc it has just made it so much more accessible not only for scholars and researchers but really for policy actors to be able to be better informed in terms of access to that data and information and research etc so it's really that that in and I wanted to really stress that the the value of the that the UN system has with that network on the ground just producing this rich data and now through digital platforms it's really becoming more accessible and processes like the global compact for migration and what led to that in the decade you know in a bit beforehand have really contributed to that to speeding up that accessibility to it which is really great second is really just thinking about the evolving nature of migration itself and the specific aspects of migration which Petru and Pablo both mentioned really you know affects nearly all bodies and organizations within the United Nations system and we know from the literature on social movements and you know transformative issue campaigns and looking at influence in policy processes and all of this sort of thing which is what I used to focus my research on but we know the role that research play the key role that research plays in defining issues new issues but also evolving issues and highlighting to whom or what causality of the issue is attributed and this in turn has implications on how global challenges are addressed and the policy solutions that are designed to solve them which policy actors you know were sort of brought in to address the issue how you know what lens they're sort of viewing the issue through is that a criminal justice approach is that a human rights approach a development approach etc and so research has you know we've known for a long time played a key role in that defining the issues and shaping the different types of policy solutions that come about but what policy actors have really stressed in recent years as well as UN bodies IOM and other UN bodies is the cross cutting nature of the issue of migration which really requires cross cutting policy solutions in order to address the issues that arise around migration and again here you know it comes back to this creation and expansion of the networks and the platforms of migration which are really facilitating in the last decade and a half you know much more than previously this ability to sort of look at the data look at the information in a cross cutting manner much more in a much more accessible way for policy actors or anybody any stakeholders working you know on migration and that is encouraging and will hopefully continue to encourage then cross cutting you know policy solutions to actually address migration which are really needed and then so finally turning to insights that we gathered in this collaborative project from 26 policy officers working on migration 19 working at the country from 19 countries we heard from eight representatives working in permanent missions to the United Nations in Geneva and 18 government actors working on migration at the country level but basically you know we asked them how they use migration research in their work we sort of wanted to find out from them what's useful what challenges they face etc and what came back loud and clear was really the strong need for migration research and analysis to inform their work on a daily basis because of all of the challenges that Petru mentioned Pablo mentioned Sabine you've touched on too but with rising misinformation the really contested nature of migration etc they really need to access migration research on a daily basis to keep up on latest migration trends and issues constantly evolving especially during times like COVID-19 preparing policy options for decision makers preparing speeches talking points responding to questions and enviries preparing internal papers and background briefs developing positions on new and evolving issues correcting misinformation on migration and highlighting key issues and topics with other colleagues so these were all reasons that the policy actors mentioned that they really you know go to to use migration research on a daily basis in their work right now so it's really needed but they also stressed you know there's a lot of emphasis on the difference between the long academic and the difficult accessibility of long academic papers vis a vis shorter policy documents etc but it was really interesting to hear the policy actors themselves say that summary outputs are very useful and then at the same time it's also today in this period of contested information and misinformation to have access to the full sources and the full bodies of research and the original data and etc in those shorter summaries they also really stress the importance of language translation the world migration report does a fantastic job of translating the reports but it's amazing how challenging raising funds for for translation which is not a lot of funds usually but many UN bodies face for translating research outputs and just emphasizing that in my view is important because it really and this came through in the survey and the interviews that we conducted it really does enhance the access to research and evidence based you know the the potential for evidence based policy making among policy actors at the country level in particular you know at the international level people usually have multiple language language skills but at the country level having that language in language the research outputs in language is really really vital so I'll finish now just by saying that of the the 26 policy actors we you know interviewed and surveyed 88% of them are actually already using the world migration report in their work many of them on a on a daily basis they said and one of the the quotes I'll leave you with a quote from one of the representatives from a permanent mission in Geneva they said we use the world migration report every day it gives the global situation around the world shows the population of migrants the categories of migrants the upcoming challenges the causes the different difficulties managing migration the good practices it provides options and empirical evidence it is very important so that's you know really a testament to the the rigorous research methodologies that have been applied with the world migration report as well as by many other UN and bodies right now but upholding those those rigorous methodologies as Petru had mentioned and Celine you emphasized is also really key thank you thank you very much Cecilia and indeed it is a testament as you're saying and I will say to the work of Marie as well Marie McCliff was the editor of the reports and has those fantastic ideas I mean in addition to the the rigor she brought to the reports as also fantastic ideas of how to disseminate and communicate research further and we really pleased to partner with you and looking forward to see the police of two kids up and running and for those who'd like to have a look at the different tool kits that we have I can share the link actually right now the insights reports that's from the the survey and interviews that Cecilia was talking about actually is also accessible here so thank you very much we have one question so I wish I could like ask my own question but I feel like I owe to our audience to rather ask this question that rather than myself so I may follow up with you separately because I have the person on question this question doesn't seem to be addressed to anybody specifically so I turn to you in turn if you do so I agree or if you want to reply just let me know or do not want to reply it comes from Bella Evidente who says what is your view of the better role of the UN system as an enabler slash coordinator slash converter rather than being do or implement your producer of migration data and research I don't know if you have an opinion on that I do I will say it's kind of a mix but that's my own position and also because of the work that we're doing in IOM and within the Migration Research and Publications Division but perhaps Pablo to come back to you first I don't know if that's something that you had a look at or kept tonight during your research thank you and are you briefly briefly I don't think there is a better role I think those roles are really important and I think part of this chapter and what we talked here today is about how important it is this role that the UN can have in terms of coordinating enabling and you know on migration research analysis but also on migration governance and majority policymaking so I think the evolution and you know the all the positive feedback that we that we had in the development of the network and so on is a testimony of one the need that there was there to coordinate all of that how the UN system managed to do that and so on so I think that part is clear but I also think it doesn't mean that the UN does not have a role to play in terms of producing knowledge and publishing research as well and I think here is important and maybe go back to previous editions of the chapter 4 where we talk about the rhythm of publishing and the rules of publishing some have spoken some unspoken rules so academic publishing has all of us here we're in and out of academia so we know that it's not not an unconstrained environment not everything gets published and when it does get published it follows a certain type of language as Azilia mentioned so on so there is of course a role for UN agencies to bring this rigor that we talked about while at the same time making it accessible and we just today talked about many examples of how we bring high quality content but in a very approachable means whether it is by translating into languages or whether it's by making it more visually appealing or more easily digestible and these are things that unfortunately academic publishing cannot always do because it has its own set of rules so I think to summarize we 100% agree we have a double role I don't think one is better than the other they're complementary and I think we need to continue to try to to make sure that there is that those both hands working together so there you go much sense thank you Pablo definitely completely made sense let me give the floor to Petru as his virtual hands raised thank you thank you I think I will respond with different words to the same question I would say that first of all the United Nations system should continue to involve itself in collecting the data we the system has some features that are absent in any other let's say a highly competent institution that can do that for it it's about the lack of bias it's about the link to the some values that United Nations promote it's about the objectivity and the neutrality of the information it's collected so there is an authority that can only come from that in the governmental system and then at the same time it doesn't mean that United Nations is picking up all the statistics itself it is also a coordinator we of course we mentioned about the organization having a field presence as it is the case of IOM but we don't produce research only based on field research you collaborate with governments you collaborate with non-governmental organizations so all of these mix of advantages make the role of United Nations essential that is why I would say that we produce global public goods and the third nuance to the question we the United Nations does not have the monopoly on any sort of research so nothing prevents other entities you know to produce to produce research and we we have a diversity of sources and then of course we have the difficulty to orient ourselves among this ocean of information and anecdotally speaking when I was a student economic academy of economic studies the economic survey on Europe of the economic commission for Europe was the Bible was the most important source of information and statistics and of course even at that time there were other sources but there was that authority and prestige and and strength that comes with the United Nations research thank you thank you very much Petru no I agree with you and on the on the other side as you're saying like the the UN doesn't have the monopoly so and on the contrary like when we do research we rely on academic research of course but I think like one can the two can be mutually reinforcing by the end of the day as well and completely agree with you Petru let me perhaps we have one minute left that so that will give me the occasion I don't know Cecilia if you wanted to reply to the question or I have a last word as I want to give the chance to I don't really have anything further to add you know everything or the points that you you all raised is is really good but also that just the data and and information that is pulled together through the collaboration and convening is is you know like it makes it possible for for more research to be done so they're also really linked yeah so I agree with what you all said thanks thank you very much so we're coming to an end and I want to be on time to make sure that our attendees and participants can may have other other commitment and can and can leave just let me let me thank you again or to discuss and today Petru thank you very much Cecilia as well and thank you come up to my colleague Pablo for the very good presentation the World Migration Report webinar series will continue the next one will be next month of course we can come back to you by email you can be sure of that with more information on which topic we will cover now we're turning to the traumatic chapters as we go through the reports so thank you very much and I let me wish you again a good afternoon a good morning wherever you are or good evening and thank you again all bye