 Okay, we'll go ahead and call the order the curriculum instruction committee meeting that's six o'clock Item number one is summer school report. I'll turn it over to Jake and Josh Thanks Yeah, we're getting some a lot of feedback from the owner. All right, how are we now? Here we go. Thank you See if we got it so again just a ton of thanks to Josh the last two summers have been anything but regular but their education for the summer so he's here to share the numbers with us today Yeah, thank you very much Jake. Um, real quickly Yeah, two documents that I shared with the board tonight. The first one is just a summary of the last 10 years our FTE's actually point out You can see pre-covid 2019 and then our last year when we prior year when we went all virtual. We certainly had a dip but we did pull off some summer school Numbers in 2020 last this past summer. We're happy to report our students turn out When our families turn out their summer school recognize the importance of continuing education in a very difficult year So we're happy to see those numbers jump our FTE's actually went up to a pre-covid time period a little bit before 2018 so The families really turned out well for summer school just on page two of the document I shared Just want to go through and highlight a couple of quick pieces our high school online classes That's what a growing program But I think it took a little bit of a dip this year and I can attribute that probably to a little bit of online fatigue and COVID fatigue Different type of class structure That took a little bit of a downtrend this past year. We expect that the bounce back next year our middle school programming continues to rise in a COVID year and Very successful that continues to trend continues to travel as we go from With our middle school program it syncs with our high school program whether it's at North or South each year. So the last piece Big program that we had was our elementary middle studies. We had almost 700 students participate. That's about on par with past years And that operates at five sites throughout the district the last piece I want to throw out Lori Rossi who has been a huge supporter with that program for countless years This will be her last year supporting summer school. She's been our sort of our guiding light if so to speak for our elementary Reading math program. So she's starting to wind out in her career. This is her last year. So I really appreciate working with her High school we spent a lot of time in the The spring talking about what that might look like for a remedial studies for our high school programming We had a bumper crop of students participate there 184 students participated as compared to 62 last year are really deep over the years. So a lot of kids got involved And again, we talked a bit about transportation back then and we've transported kids from North to South As well as our middle school program for horsemen to sell. So we work transportation really well and kids were successful We had a lot of students are credit over the summer Also at Central High we had a remedial program. They bumped up significantly from last year as well And they're getting over that program and doing a couple of different tweaks to make it more accessible to kids throughout each week Staff feedback a little points that we do survey at the end that largely we are staffed with a very similar staff each year Our staff for summer school continues to come back year in and year out We struggled a little bit this year with I think again that cold fatigue people with a little bit of a break And we were able to be fully staffed and we're looking forward to some folks coming back next year back into the fall. So The questions That's Thank you. Thanks for a great great program this year and I'm glad to see the numbers are coming back up With that we move on to item number two, which is a 2021 2023 I'll call another drug abuse AODA grant project and then it'll be Jake Jason and Well, thank you very much for having Giselle and I here today just want to introduce Giselle Simon she's a school counselor at South Bay School and also our district AODA It's our second year of the district, which is an outstanding job with our AODA program in the district Just want to take a little time today to Talk to our AODA grant that we've been awarded by DPI So I want to take some opportunity to explain a little bit about the grant in the process that we went through In the application out and then Giselle is going to speak On the program said we're going to be providing at the middle school high school program to sports students in AODA So the AODA grant through DPI. It's a very competitive grant We've been very fortunate over the last three cycles that we've been awarded this grant It's a $25,000 grant That application process is a very competitive process that are 48 districts The state of Wisconsin that we're awarding this grant to a little over $900,000 or 700 million dollars and we're one of the 48 districts out of 81 applicants. So we're very proud of very competitive the grant has become more competitive over the years This grant is $25,000 and over to your period of time So that process that we went through I just want to briefly talk on that and how we came about the application How we constructed our application. We really From the starting point we really were using our data Most recent data as much as possible to drive The direction of the grant. So as you can see in that it leaves the third slide We really utilize our YRBS and youth risk behavioral data from 2017-19. I looked at the trends from that Maybe some growth but also some areas Maybe a improvement and really targeted that along with our referral data students with possession of alcohol and other drugs within the school settings at our middle school and high school. I gave some examples on the slides Some of the data that we Drove our grant a little bit in the direction of our grant We really saw that there was an increase in at the middle school level of students Baving over the past 30 days during that window of time high school students They're used to alcohol and they had increased Since the years of 2015-17 and into night So we we have seen that use alcohol and other drugs increased probably in particular our middle school students with that tobacco use of anything From that information then we created Giselle and her team Had some really good discussions through discussions and really asked the why why is the data where it's at and So we kind of created that root cause analysis. So we really believe and that's we believe that Two of the reasons of maybe where our data is where it's at where the students use this is one is Just the violation of that tobacco use policies are not consistently offered or helped so that that education counseling and Referral to cessation. This is not there at our middle school It's there at this point in time. So really look it's probably more of a punitive type Situation that we see and then the other portion is portions is that peer education that opportunities for For student support when it comes to AODA the student mentoring and just maybe adult mentoring through the AODA process and issues So those were the areas that really drove the purpose of our grant and the why behind the application for our grant and then That really went into then our practice priority or really our action planning and we really Giselle and her team really are looking at two areas that they're really driving towards for the next two years I'm making a difference in action planning. I'm going to let Giselle talk about kind of the meat of the grant And that's our action behind it Good evening. So after we looked at we had to do an analysis of where we were in what services we were providing for our students and after we Completed that analysis we found two major areas of deficit One of them was our lack of follow-through when a student commits a policy violation regarding AODA issues We have some punitive measures with our policy, but we do not have a consistent Systematic way of addressing the issue after the fact what can we offer the students and the parents? to deal with the situation if it's just you know, depending on the where they land on the spectrum of Addiction so one of our action steps is to train our counselors and expert. So to do a brief Screening see if the student is in need of a brief intervention or a referment a referment to treatment So that's the one thing we're going to do We were lucky enough to be we applied to wish to be able to Receive the training through the Department of Public Instruction and that will be taking place next month In addition to that we were our analysis show that we needed to have more preventative Measures and what we chose to do was to establish two student Lead peer groups one of them. It's going to be at the middle school in the middle school. We're implementing fact fact that movement org and that's Its focus is more and I'm anti-capac so we have paired up with the The two agencies that we've paired up with is the American Lung Association That's providing a small grant to support that as well as the Lakeshore Tobacco Prevention Network So that's going to be in the middle school. It's about, you know, your leadership Culture of school that's more positive You know implementing measures that show that you know, it's negative behavior, etc Because we have seen an increase in the use of tobacco in their middle schools, especially in the At the high school, we're going to implement the work the peers for peers through a partnership with Elevate and that's going to be more about alcohol and other drugs It has several objectives It is it is meant to increase high school practice the perception of AODA issues at more risky. I think we want to increase In the peer perception of this approval of use We also want to provide tools for parents to increase their communications to this about how to feel about AODA And give them the tools that they need to be able to open up those communications All right, my last item All right, my last item is the class size report. No, I'm going to read it. Yeah, so class size report this year As you know, one of the one of the things we do with the funds The COVID dollars was to keep our class sizes small this year in hopes of giving them with these that transition back for students. So As you look at the historical numbers here, Freddie Freddie Classes are ever small enough But pretty good numbers here. So I'll just walk you through very quickly and then we have new questions. I'm happy to answer So As we look at that first chart that's on page Yeah, the second page that's probably the most informational piece for our elementary schools and what that shows is just the class size and the number of classes that integrate those skills come in Keep in mind they're quite an important app for you at the next board meeting. So this is kind of pre-emptive to that But these were these were the numbers as of Last week and everything was a little bit but pretty nice for class sizes. So those things highlighted in red are the class sizes where we're after over policy And as you can see much of that happening in the district compared to What we've seen in the past and just remember we kind of staff our elementary school About a 22 to 1 ratio and then principals have so flexibility in how many want to staff each class additional staff there so much you'll see some children just to see a school that goes over class size and if you look at those numbers you can see that they could go under if they wanted to But there's a reason for that They That's the thing to keep them in there our high schools look pretty good. We try not to have class under 20 we try not to have classes over 30 You see it happen a little bit Adnorm just because all the classes at the office get to the top. That's for a cap class here We're trying to discuss Even those classes pretty close to 20 most of the time I have 42 That fell into that category sometime with plex mod We just kind of remove them from this report and they when they want the plex mod and you can see kind of how they Could be up there The number of sections they have that they're largely doing That's not Plexes and then And then Really I think the next piece of information that you probably probably find interesting is The number of sections over 30 so that gets pretty tight, especially at our middle schools. So we have three of those that far as well I All of those pretty close to that 30 There's studies on Otherwise pretty good this year, especially In the work 96 images if you look the numbers that the spread of across they can even out Classes under 20 number 30 We're all my summer Any questions So I'm reading this correctly that there are 96 classes at north that are over here I know you said something that I had a high time All this Why I'm I'm assuming there are some smaller Or other things that that back to the internet, but I'm looking at a lot of these are geometry, you know If you're not getting geometry To help you understand You know, I mean, I understand the value But I also understand the value of our So Yeah, 96 is low historically, but I I understand what you say The hard part then we would go up to that list of under 20 classes I think that's the That's obvious the gentleman either has that or It is sometimes you see Class that is listed the same on each one right you'll have a class About the head You'll have somewhere like that same class would be under 20 for some sections and over 30 for others Just is trying to schedule kids in a way that allows them to take classes that they need to a lot of that becomes I want to take this AP class. I want to be in band. I want to be in classes that are offered a lot during the day and no error Jim and kellington speak to to their departments, but a lot of times that's taken back to the department too and it's discussed with Last size it should be like Without more staff They're cutting classes Yeah, Wilson had a bubble go through and their numbers got highly elected not to school choice issue They don't staff Just to have a bubble at that grade level so you could possibly do a split class and Distribute those 15 or first grade differently, but that's just how title made sense to do in that some kids coming at the end, but Yeah You can add staff You can play to add I'm just looking at This is a hard one for me to present because I've never argued that we should have smaller classes would be great say otherwise Where we are And they they knowingly took those kids up on the pile at that time All right, thank you so much. Um, I now call the facility's recreation and theater committee to meeting for water And with the huge agenda that we've got we've got mr. Albright giving us an update on facility projects Okay, okay, um so First of all, I want to say thanks for having me back here and I'm proud to say that our department ran real strong and I wasn't here to summer projects We're sort of in need of a year going December, but Joe Walmart ran through them and gotten going so it's a team effort and part of that North high 80 a bathroom when we did a here and now program And we Displaced some of the special ed some other rooms that came apparent that they didn't have enough 80 bathrooms So this summer we were able to complete this. This is in the ground floor at north high And we have access to ways First slide shows it from the corridor where the walkers are And then the next slide you see the inside and there's also access from the rooms Um, it's what the teachers wanted so they could take kids from Both side of the classroom areas to the hallway and get to the bathroom or they could use it from the classrooms And this you can see large changing room an area for all kinds of work in there and It's really helpful. We allow the students ring when we Will run for back floors Uh, third slide north field. I'll see you guys. I believe we're aware We did the naming rights. You can see what what came about that Uh, you can see sell some logo on the main court there Again teary contacting you probably november or so last year about this I said timing is right because we were scheduled to sand the floor and then handed off to joe because I wasn't there to see it complete but they went through all the changes Um, it turned out really nice the next slide shows another Change we work with the school. They wanted to change some paint colors. It was a kind of a Oofy mustard color down below and then we had a different yellow down below and north help pay for some of the others blue yellow Late blue their new colors they got going this is bright enough and modernizing some a little bit and again working with the school with the colors I think it turned out real nice. It's really it's really pretty so both south has done here before North has done this past summer. So they're already done in about 15 16 years. So Um, you guys are aware that we added the jackson. I called it a walkway instead of a trail this leads to the Sidewalk where by taylor drive this connects right by their black top at the jackson school um It has worked out well for getting the kids at the school um So you have to recall these pictures are probably from week and a half ago before Union Avenue was open that all I got some great things but Again, you can see how the board and district worked well with the city with easements that you guys granted. So Uh, this is at the corner of georgia avenue and union avenue looking east Uh, you can see the fence line was always there. Um that We never imposed as far as you could it burns the ditch there the ditch is all gone It's all curving gutter which I'm sure you guys all saw now They're a little late or a little old already because you can drive on it about a week and a half. I thought this was a great picture Again, this is at the the driveway Yeah, of course men's driveway looking east Uh showing the new sidewalk that was put in along union avenue One of the things that as I came back in june, I said, well, we've got the new sidewalk But there's no way to get the kids up to the school So we got that sidewalk down which is in the next slide. This is the driveway Looking north towards the school. We can see the new sidewalk on your right Um, the next slide is back up in school looking down and to your left You see how the sidewalk kind of curves around look at it today. It's all graded in looks like it's been there forever It turned out nice So there's this on the project we've done for the summer the horseman building Steel is scheduled to be shipped this week thursday. We've been waiting on it since april So this is across the park and not over here just north of the old tennis courts um And they've been waiting for the floor slab and steel is coming in and we'll get working on it What you see here is looking west and of course, there's the detention pond right there which Part of part of life these days Uh, this is looking up on this lab those uh, orange pipes You see there any committal rules will all be floor drains for all the snow trucks and things that drip off of it Um to the left there's a bathroom which we had to have and to the left there is a paint mixing room So the rec department will be able to bring their paint mixing on the tailor drive and do all the paint mixing right here at Horace man in a real nice building In addition, we'll be able to mix paint there as well. So it's a combination and work better for both departments rec department is sharing part of spilling for their storage needs It's really a team effort. So working all together The salt shed is complete. Um, which is right next to this building. Um, we're just waiting for more concrete computers and Uh, to load up with salt Uh, there's some gates going on there to close it off a little bit more The far right the larger bunker assault the middle one is Will be a salt sand mixture and the far to left is straight sand And off to our project. It's currently in place. Um This is the sidewalk which was poured yesterday. This is to the rec department and set the administration services building Um, there was a bunch of dead ash trees out there our crews took all the ash trees out We've got a good group of guys We still have some more to ease but we took the ones near the building which were kind of nice or keep working on the rest Um, we're reshuffling some offices in place with some office position Office areas. This is up in business services With with material that was there One challenge we did have this is this is across This is across from the board room area and then looking into the human resources area, which was um Office partitions and the concern was there were some confidential material that could be heard over the walls So we took them down and we put up drywall. We're putting up drywall walls in that area And we're able to secure it to us and only can walk out of the the board room area and then walk right into human resources Wasn't something we planned to do but it just made the most sense to do our staff is doing that work Today it's all drywall the ready to guys are drywall taping and stuff Upstairs too, this would be the transportation office again the same way they've went to enough office partitions and This will be adjoining to a training center area So we need a little bit more privacy to talk about children on buses And one of the things that was new a week and a half ago was that the fiber was at the building They had a schedule and since that time fiber risk connected and there's internet to building The trance main staff was able to make some old wire lists up We had taken down the schools because the new ones ordered for the building not there delays were supplied Without it can take any questions We're about to You know Well, thank you so much for giving us an update and welcome back. Thank you. And with that and see I'm adjourned Okay Well, that seems to be a bit better Okay Yeah, and with me you're gonna have to pop that mic way down simply because I am a human ticker box So Hi Sue I'm doing all right. How about you? No Mr. Voice from Voice of God we had trouble hearing you you were a little muffle And do you want us to keep our mics on and then you'll you'll pot us up. You'll mute us from here from there or Okay Thank you voice of God It works Okay We'll go ahead and call to order the committee of the whole at 641 c.m I'm seeking a motion to approve the agenda Someone Moved in second any discussion Hearing none all is in favor say aye Can you close motion carries roll call finds assault president with the exception of marsha rindhauer who is excused Uh item number four is the introduction of milling pumpkins the south high school associate principal and I'll turn this over to you So happy to have uh milling with us tonight probably we thought to come to the The podium, please that we're here Tonight to have the board be introduced to the pumpkins our new associate principal at south high school We're glad that william is joining us and the schmugnery school district Coming to us from kanosha where he served in his last role as a dean of students So we're glad that will's here. So thank you. Love like to give a little background about yourself and talk to the board Very excited to be here I think about myself Ever since I was 18 years old big years after school programs camps also, I started teaching as a substitute teacher at race 8 and 5 I taught there for a few years Then moved to Milwaukee and then after that, I wanted to acknowledge I spent all my years as a special education teacher For most of my years except for the last seven years where I was a dean of students and Just to let you know a little bit more about myself. I believe that all kids can learn Kids deserve chances I also you know like working with others and Feel that this new leadership role is going to help me reach more students and help more kids and also help the staff also Thank you all very happy that you've joined us in the sulfide team. It's a great day to be here, right? Thank you All right, we'll move on to item number five. So tonight we do have some community input schedule Community input is typically not posted at a committee of the whole but We've got a hot-button topic on the agenda tonight So we want to include opportunity for community input now No community input tonight is specifically pertaining to district metrics when facial covering should be required at the building level When covid cases are at a high level So if anything that's not pertaining to essentially the covid mitigation measures Recommended by the administration at the last meeting regarding building positivity rates and facial coverings That would need to be saved for the next Meeting at public comment where there is not a specific cited topic. Okay Before we begin i'm going to read the public input guidelines and then those who would like to address the board may Come to one of the podiums This meeting in the sub ordinary school district board of education We are pleased that you're interested in educational issues. We are interested in your comments and concerns about the school district In order for the meeting to flow smoothly We would appreciate that the following guidelines be followed by anyone wishing to address the board of education this evening One please limit comments or suggestions to three minutes or less because we do have a full agenda to follow Comments and suggestions on the school district are welcome Personal criticism and or derogatory remarks directed at members of the board of education or employees of the school district are out of order If you wish to provide input and would like to be recognized, please raise your hand or step forward to the podium After being recognized, please stand and clearly state and spell your name and address for the record Also for the record, please sign your name and address in the clipboard after you have spoken The board normally receives citizen input and does not respond or debate If there is a need for an answer or response to a concern or issue Be superintendent or one of the administrative staff members will get back to you within the week. Thank you for your assistance So with that those who would like to address the board, please Approach one of the podium Please state your name and address. Yes, my name is faith general an address 1214 salt 11th street. Okay. You have three minutes pardon You have three minutes. Okay. Um, we're at fault masks Um, I've got some skin in this game Two children of my family spent 14 years in the school district This year I witnessed two of those same kids He forced into isolation One of them did end up getting COVID and I'm just wondering as a whole here How do you feel about the fact that 700,000 people in our country lost their lives? Okay Masks Why didn't that help anything? That's my question So I'll move anybody here one of order One person's allowed to speak at a time. Thank you. Okay All right. So regarding my asking who's whose kids are they understand right now? Is that correct? Reach a certain metric and they have no more. Is that correct? That's not currently in place. Okay um I'm just wondering. I know I can't ask any questions directly. Um, I understand that there's no medical professionals or doctors And as far as I'm concerned, the people that come here Are the parents and that the school board its directors and all of its committees are not parents of the shabuigan county children We are We've got every right to decide what is safest for our children Um, so going forward, um, how do I know that? If masking was required that the other person's mask is working Each individual has their own level of immunity Their own level of health. They may be unhealthy for first people underlying conditions Nobody knows Masking has proven not to be If that I would ask next time maybe you could have us and science teachers come forward and explain that reasoning I I understand that the guidance here is given to the cdc And I've been doing some very very deep digging on all of this As far as masking goes um No, can I talk about something other than masking? Just Or do I have to wait until the subject comes up? This is my first time Tonight's just on district positivity and masking it for relation to it Did you say ventilation? No, and your three minutes have expired Your your three minutes is up ma'am. Oh, okay. Alrighty. Thank you Please state your name and address the record John Paul five three three two wild mental drive Okay, do you have three minutes? Uh, so last week, uh, I was accused by a member of the board of non-understanding math So again, my problem with the proposed uh policy is The numbers are too low And the testing days are a little out of whack 2 percent means two people out of every 100 4 percent means four people at every every 100 And this is my fifth attending the school board district meetings So I am learning as I go along But that's simple math I don't have to be told otherwise the days of testing if I'm Uncorrect it could be corrected at some point tonight, but you could have a positivity rate Of a two percent on day one mask going to effect Day two the positivity rate drops below two percent. However, we have to wait 14 days To be able to take masks off your kids 14th day jumps back up to two percent You go to another 14 days worth of masking That means you could have 28 days worth of masking with two days in the positivity rate To me some of that revolves around personal choice We had a member of this board attend a bucks game this year They stated that they didn't wear a mask because the cdc guidelines all fine and dandy But the guidelines at the fizer form were required to wear a mask unless you were eating or drinking Social media photos show that that person did not follow those guidelines I don't know if it was done via personal choice or not But it shows you that the people on this board Some of them one in particular Decided to make a choice for himself and that he didn't have to wear a mask So that is what the rest of the parents of this board or this school district need to follow If they pass this tonight and you feel that it's in your personal safety of it Do what the person on this board did at the fizer form Make a medical decision apparently for yourself. Don't follow the guidelines that are in the building apparently That's the problem that I have and that is part of the american marxist movement that mark levin has so talked about very well I would like to donate A copy of it You can call out of order if you want, but this is my first amendment and I continue I will observe my 27 I'm going to leave this book and any board member that would like to use it very well Thank you very much for your time and it does pertain to it. It's medical choice for it Thank you audience will maintain order Sir, please state your name for the record Bill mass 13 29 north 47th street should weigh down five three zero eight one. Thank you. We have three minutes Experts claim Everyone must wear masks to keep schools open But look at the evidence remember school on october 12th of last year. I do Six foot distancing two days a weekend person two days virtual Wednesday, no class no locker use no bubbler use Bring your own water bottle eat at your desk. No football and yes mandatory masks even outside Two days later it was announced that all learning would switch to virtual on monday october 19th for two weeks Ultimately that two weeks became nearly three months as we finally returned to the hybrid model on january 11 How about october close this year desks pushed together Five day in-person learning lockers and bubblers available eating with friends in the cafeteria Football and other activities flourishing students interacting normally while having fun An optional mask allowing contagious smiles to be shared by old and new friends alike Compare our experience last year to this one Despite vastly more stringent measures including greatly reduced in-person class sizes and minimal student interaction The mandatory policy failed to prevent increase in cases and all in-person learning was lost for nearly three months How about this year the optional policy succeeded in summer school so much So that when you voted unanimously on july 27th to allow optional this school year But four weeks later two board members felt that further masking discussion was needed They got their wish Further discussion resulted in a marathon meeting a week later and has continued on a bi-weekly basis ever since Meanwhile for the first six weeks of school this fall Optional masking has continued to keep our schools open with larger class sizes despite the scary more highly infectious delta variant Sorry experts the evidence clearly reveals that optional masking has easily outperformed mandatory in our schools Not only does mandatory fail to keep schools open. It flunks at improving communication and learning How many times have you struggled to hear a math speaker? How do you think teachers and students especially young ones feel? If masking improved our ability to communicate We would have been wearing masks for centuries and all sorts of indictments Classrooms boardrooms doctors offices courtrooms press conferences sidelines and even zoom meetings to name a few Why replace a successful policy with a previously failed one that creates an inferior learning environment? Doing so as anti-science Examine the evidence analyze the data and think clearly if you do that the choice is obvious Report card shows optional masking with the name while mandatory gets enough Keep optional masking do it for the kids. Don't further discussion is required. Thank you. Thank you Please state your name for the record I have one comment to make there was a 14 year old student who died of COVID in the Fort Badkinson school district died I'm just wondering which of these parents would would like to sacrifice their child Because they don't want to wear a mask When there is obvious proof that masks Control That's my only comment. Hello. Hi. My name is Stephanie O'Connell I live at 704 Highland Terrace in Sheboygan 53083 You have three minutes Thank you I as well as many other people in this city and in this country Realize that it is past time to begin Living a life with COVID instead of trying to battle this invisible enemy We have a vaccine And if that does not bring about an end to these mitigation strategies then this tyranny will never stop It will continue to bleed us of our freedoms and our children may never know a world without people coercing them into taking EUA vaccines against their will They may never know a world where they can go to school without being a political district on positivity rates I'm sorry. This is about facial coverings and positivity rates in the building not vaccines. Thank you I understand that that'll be coming next month once they once they authorize it for five to 11 year olds Thank you Kyle Let me uh leave up Get back to where I left off They may never know a world where they can go to school without being political pawns used to leverage control over the good people of this country You as a school board have no right to make medical decisions for my family or anyone else's family Other than your own You are not doctors You are not medical professionals. You are tool used to implement and To divide and destroy our country This is a war and no shots are being fired. It is an information war We are told we cannot think for ourselves that we cannot research for ourselves Our country is falling apart from the inside and that is because That's the only way that it can happen. Nobody can take us down like we can take ourselves down We're doing a great job of it Now remember this comes down to individual rights granted to us by the constitution of the united states of america And you cannot change them. You cannot brush them aside You cannot rule by executive order and edict But you can tear this country apart and how safe will we be then Anyone else who cares to address the board this evening? Good evening, bill jones 3431 north ten speed. You have three minutes. Yesterday's 16 year old grace smith of laramie wyoming Tried to attend school on that wearing a mask The school was put on lockdown and she was handcuffed and taken to jail Los angeles metro area will lose 3 000 firefighters 40 percent of flight delayed cancelled today were southwest airline flights The mainstream media won't tell you but this was not weather related This is a work slowdown by flight crews and air traffic controllers Most of these pilots are veterans. They took an oath to the constitution and are honoring that oath The things in common with these incidents are people fighting for their freedoms I'm going to no longer pretend this about masks and injections because it's not Some here will laugh, but this is about protecting our constitution and the republic If you want to give up your freedom for safety, that's your prerogative However, you will not take away mine Dr. Faulcher and the cvc do not control me They are going outside their lane when they inject the equity discussions into science They are all about money. What about the botch testing in the beginning? What about the j and j pause? What about the fact that no study has been done for the use of ivermectin? What about the fact that there's no discussion of natural immunity or herd immunity? What about the dissent in the FDA's own panel fighting amongst itself? Why have there not been a study of the use of masks in school age population? Why are we months into a In on a study of the injection into children? And they're going to try to force it on them Almost immediately What about the adverse reactions to the injections? This is a movement of we the people It's larger than you may think I'm sure the extra money is good, but do you want to make this blood money? There's a chance that the debt ceiling will not be raised and the money won't be there anyway So where do you stand? Will you continue these draconian measures? Is this a hill to die on? I mean that you for metaphor No need for the FBI We will not back down I would encourage students to homes to school all this All these goes on falls in your court tread lightly. Thank you. Good luck Others who would care to address the board to see me hi guys Um, this is name in a drug. Oh, sorry, uh tracy alley 46 27 west ran a king drive Shmoigan 53083 Yeah, three minutes. Okay. Thank you. Um, I just was wanted to bring up At least one thing regarding your mitigation of recommendation That you have on the table right now and Before you make a decision about that. I would like you to first think about I don't know if you're aware of these tech tech challenges that these kids have been doing It's hitting us hard apparently and um, there are no soap dispensers in some of these bathrooms here Um, apparently at the high schools also and across the board at all the middle schools And my son had told me about this and I asked him Well, how do you wash your hands? Just with water really um Yeah, so We're trying to be at school safely, right because I want to be here. We want to pass for everybody But if my child doesn't have soap to properly wash his hands That's part of a mitigation strategy, right to keep from spreading germs to everybody else If he can't properly wash his hands after lunch What good is that going to do anybody? And then we're going to sit and wonder why Everyone gets sick and it's not just covid sick. There's regular sick Regular sick still happens. Okay So let's take a step back and first before you make a decision on masking again Raise the percentage to 30 percent per classroom Is what I say not per building And make sure these schools have soap Okay Before you make a rash decision about masking again That's just going to continue on for the rest of their lives. When do we say enough is enough guys? Please honestly Can we rationally think about this? These kids are tearing out soap dispensers in their schools because of a stupid challenge in the middle of a pandemic Okay Let's make sure we get soap dispensers before we make a decision on masking again So we can make sure these kids are safe and he asked the assistant principal here and he said Are we going to get more soap? He says probably not Because let's rip him off the wall again Okay I think we need to do something about this. I think we should address this right before You know, we sit and try to mask them up again. We need to make sure they have soap Not just sanitizer because some kids can't handle that chemical on their skin So please keep mass optional until we figure out the soap situation. Thank you Anyone else who would care to dress the board and see me? Maze Quinn. The address is 310 St. Clair Avenue. Yeah, pretty. Thank you Thank you for this opportunity Finalizing the details of the COVID-19 response plan is critical in keeping our students teachers and staff safe during this pandemic During this pandemic our superintendent and executive management team needs to be able to pivot quickly to enact Mitigation strategies as needed at each individual school when there was a quick spread of COVID within the building It is my hope tonight that all of you have a really good discussion And that you vote to support the mitigation strategy regarding requiring face masks that was shared at the board meeting a couple of weeks ago At your last meeting the majority of you raised your hands in support of this updated COVID-19 response plan Our students teachers and staff need to have in-person instruction this year And in order to ensure that it safely happens Our superintendent must be able to employ mitigation strategies to support in-person instruction At the last meeting the superintendent shared that he and the EMT studies the data from the fall of 2019 to determine the Appropriate thresholds for positive cases at each school grade level The differences of the percentages are due to the fact that there is no vaccine available for students at the 4k through 6th grade level Hence the recommendation is for a threshold of 2 for 4k through 6th grade The recommendation of 4 thresholds for 7th grade through 12th grade Is due to the availability of the vaccine for students ages 12 years old and older It is now october and tragically our positive COVID-19 cases continues to rise in our community and in our school Today it was even reported that the transmission positivity was 11 And our COVID numbers jumped by 100 people We've also shared that 10 people including two people in their 40s have recently died from this contagious virus Our school district deserves a COVID-19 response plan that provides the superintendent and EMT With a variety of mitigation strategies to allow our district to continue In-person instruction and keep our students teachers and staff safe during an uptick in cases of COVID-19 As a former shaborgan area school district board member I urge you to support the updated COVID plan presented two weeks ago by the superintendent. Thank you Anyone else in here to address the board decision? Ruth Villarreal 1406 Pennsylvania Avenue You have three minutes I feel like a broken record I don't know how else to get through to you guys, but I just witnessed tonight a very clear psych issue And this woman dipped out of here because she's afraid she's going to die Okay, I have a stepson who was in public school last year. I kept that one home And I educated him at home. There is a clear difference between the two children I have one at home constantly washing his hands because he's afraid he's going to die Okay, that's what public school did to him Now you want to talk about statistics? And I don't know how you guys are getting your information, but Pediatric deaths, this is off the CDC website O'Hale the CDC website Pediatric deaths by state with COVID-19 And from all causes January 1st 2020 to October 2nd 2021 dated October 6th 2021 In the state of Wisconsin We have three total deaths From that timeframe In children from zero to 17 What it doesn't tell us is whether these children died of COVID or with COVID We're not privy to that information But that's all we've had Total in the state of Wisconsin all deaths in children from zero to 17 We have 986 in the whole state from all deaths zero to 17 That's 0.3% COVID deaths of all deaths in the state of Wisconsin We need to start paying attention to what's going on here Okay, because I don't want that child To be dipping out of here like psych over there because that's what we're creating a bunch of psych people That need help psychologically Okay, that's what we're doing And nobody's addressing that I have to go up and I have to clean last year's mess with my stepson You guys aren't paying for that My household has to pay for that That's all I have to say I'm just here to say that I came here to start a meeting Not a single pledge. I'm not going to tell you my address. We don't know your address for the record I am addressing you No, you're not going to be rude to everybody because that's what you do You guys already have an agenda and plan and you're going to do what you want to do But you're not going to revoke on my rights or my child's rights and that's what I have to say So just remember that remember that that's what you have to do Is that you're going to tread on somebody's freaking rights Because you guys got your own agenda anyway. Here's going to do it. You don't even care about the country you live in Can't even say the pledge of allegiance to the flag What's wrong with you? Anyone else who would care to address the board this evening? Hello, my name is Ali Tashi. Can you hear me? Okay? I live at 1400 Marshall Avenue in Cleveland, Wisconsin I primarily wanted to Come here today to thank you for your tireless dedication to our schools I understand that most of that or I suspect that most of that Is behind the scenes in your phone calls and your emails Your research your community outreach and the sleepless nights that you share with many of us in this room for various reasons Tonight I'm here as a parent of two children in the school district And also as a former schmoyner school district employee I had the unique perspective last year in the last two years to be able to see How schools managed how leaders helped how students were Modeling for their teachers and teachers modeling for their students How to get through difficult times together and to be resilient I am concerned that We as a society have a huge Responsibility I do believe that public schools can unite us and that is Why all of you are sitting where you are right now As it comes to masking and the mitigation strategies I personally have kept my children home for eight days this school year For a variety of reasons whether that is having been in a positive Having been in close contact with their grandmother who tested positive Who had Significance symptoms my Second grader had a fever of 103 Based on the school district's policies. I could have sent her younger sibling who was healthy Into school unknowing whether or not she had COVID thankfully despite the many many symptoms as others have said real, you know other sicknesses still exist and We experienced the flu at my house I want to I'm concerned that it was Up to me to protect the people in my children's classroom From them when I suspected they might have COVID I had the privilege of being a working mother at home of working from home I had the privilege To keep her home and to keep her from spreading a potential disease I hope that the decision tonight and the decisions that we continue to make can center equity And I don't believe that we can achieve equity without having all kids access schools So I echo what mave has said today. Let's remember that the goal is to educate students by keeping them in schools and let's think of Precautions versus punishments I think that's about that thank you so much for your time and It's not necessarily related to masking, but I do hope that we can improve trans gas Positivity rates is it about so it's about positivity rates. I do have a concern that there are positive cases in schools and our Teachers are not hearing about it and our students are hearing about it. Thank you Anyone else here tonight? They would care to address the board Hello, uh, my name is Lisa Gamble 2809 North 7th Street, Sheboygan and I support wearing masks as part of the overall school district COVID mitigation plan It's one tool in the whole plan It's not tyranny It's a tool to help limit the spread of COVID and The thing that I want to point out and I'm hoping that you all will consider this As you're looking at this. There's a lot of high emotion involved in this and I understand that but um, what I think people need to remember Is that this is really the way we need to look at wearing masks My mask protects you Your mask protects me order And Wearing our masks together Helps keep our kids in school Thank you Anyone else who cares to address the board this evening? Good evening. Um, thank you for having us My name is Jennifer Riddell. I live at 1622 Volpe Drive West in Sheboygan I know that you're going to mask our children that is a decision I 100% disagree with You're not pulling signs when you make this decision You're borrowing to those who either want to live in fear or those who want to maintain power and control Mask mandates have not been shown to be effective at curbing the spread of COVID-19 A study came out this week That showed that there's no such police significant difference in Florida between school districts that follow the law and allowed mask choice And those that imposed a mask mandate Parents are exercising their right to make medical decisions for their children Walk into any school and you will see that the majority students are not wearing masks Who are you to take away a parent's right to mask their child or not? Where is the 2% and 4% rate for masking coming from? I have searched and confined to no research to support these numbers The numbers are arbitrary seems that they're just made up Menominee falls is using a 10% rate. We're going to make stuff up. Why not use that percent? Why you continue to provide cumulative case numbers? Anyone with half a brain knows that this number will always go up. Are you presenting this number to scare people? In the presentation from september 28th The tables included that show the number of days different schools were in certain positive rate ranges from october to november 2020 What is so interesting to me is that this time for most when masking was mandatory in schools and in the community As masks truly work and there are no studies to actually prove this theory Why were there any cases? Should we see zero cases if masks actually work? Your own data does not support masking So much time has been wasted on arguing about masks and pushing unnecessary mandates Let parents make masking decisions for their family. It is their right You need to focus on what is important educating our children Thank you very much Anyone else who cares to address the board to see me? Eric Anderson 1910 north 20 while this is nice down here Eric Anderson 1910 north 23 You have three minutes. All right. I'm going to use all three, but I might kind of break in between there but Since my brother up there got to talk about whatever you did an awesome job Thank you. I can't see him up from up here, but the gentleman up there in the wheelchairs spoke a lot of truth um There is such a thing called lucifer and the devil and it's real and If I was him what she's already done is convince people to wear something over their faces That's going to protect them and it's actually harming you and I feel really bad I'm going to I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just talking. I feel very bad for you people for you I don't see it correctly You're living in fear. You don't need to be afraid anymore. It's okay You're you've made it through the worst pandemic in the history of the world apparently and you're still here And mr. Berg, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to insult you if you want. I'll buy you a beer I'll buy you a bloody marion of beer wherever you want you pick the place um I don't know really what to say anymore because Is there any veterans in this house? Is there any veterans? That constitution is not something you get to just disavow I have a real quick question. I'd like you to ask answered mr. Havartine Are you guys a legislative body? Can you make law because you said at the last minute you can't make a mandatory vaccination that would have to go Through the state legislature, correct? Okay, he said that's correct for the record So if you would have to go to the state legislator to get teachers vaccinated or students vaccinated That's their body How do you have the authority? Where do you get the legislative authority to scare or coerce any child? Another person's child into wearing a mask Could you answer that mr. Havartine? Where do you get this authority? Is it written somewhere that you have authority over another person's body? You don't have the authority to make the vaccination. How do you have the authority to wear the mask? Just I mean, you know, you don't have we're not holding anything, but you're i'm assuming you you don't You don't have that authority, right correct? Under under can you name the statute or or something? I mean Eric there are a variety of statutes that we have to okay, but this is a play Okay, but this is a place of public accommodation So any child can can declare disability they can clear their civil rights that they did that that This is a place of a public accommodation, correct? Right it is okay. That's why you have to have wheelchair ramps That's why you have to let people in with oxygen tanks some of those oxygen tanks somebody could kick it over It could catch a spark and kill somebody but you have to let them in because that's a place of public accommodation Is there anybody? In this room that wears a mask that believes other people have the right not to Yes, that's an old and we do have a medical we do have a medical professional on the board She gave a great speech told all the truth told all the facts and Just for people that are new they totally ignored her. So that's miss versey. She's actually an EMT So um, they don't listen to medical experts. So why would they listen to us, right? Anyone else who would care address the board this evening house for public comment last last call for Anyone who would like to address the board this evening? I'm meant to do it 26 22 South 7th Street in Springer I had no intention of coming up here and speaking But considering there's a lot of that I've heard that I agree with and there's a lot I heard that I disagree with however It sounds as though y'all are going to mask our children if the numbers get to a certain point Respectfully two and four percent is bananas Let's talk minimum 20 percent maybe 30 Personally, I'd like to see 70 but I know you're not going to go there Two and four percent the teachers don't even notice that the kids are absent at two and four percent like that is bananas During normal cold and flu season I couldn't tell you the numbers, but I would have to assume that at least 20 percent of students are absent on any given day We are in cold and flu season Again, as someone else said before we can also get normal sick not just coax it And this is really important because we don't have so in the bathrooms What I I seem to remember that was the first mitigation strategy that was recommended Is to wash your hands for two minutes with soap and water Thank you Anyone else who would care to dress aboard with you? Public comment is closed. Uh, we'll be moving on to our next agenda item just as a reminder Public comment is closed. There's no longer time for the members of the audience to participate in the meeting Interruptions are out of order will be called as such a multiple interruptions will be asked for you to be exported into the auditorium For your where you can continue your conversation We now have item number six, which is cited for discussion and possible action Or discussion on district metrics when facial coverings would be required at a building level when COVID cases are at a high level Santino Discussion possible action Item number six information discussion possible action All good, it's okay. Um, I would like to propose a motion Um to support the superintendent's mitigation Strategies from last meeting I want to pass out A motion Could you say full motion for it? Um, the motion will be to adopt The following possible excuse the policy of face coverings Which is pretty much the one that the superintendent I want me to read about later on for the record please in the audience. Yep All right for the record, um, I sentino last to move to adoption Move for the adoption of the following policies for face coverings 4k through 6th grade And when active students COVID-19 positivity cases reached 2% of the student population at a building All students staff members and visitors will be required to wear a face coverings for minimal or 14 calendar dates until the building students positivity case rates dropped below 2% 7th grade before grade when active students COVID positivity cases reached 4% of the student population at a building all students staff members and visitors Will be required to wear a facial coverings for a minimum of 14 calendar dates and until the building student positivity cases rate drops below 4% Exemptions exemption from facial coverings An accommodation will be made when physical medical or developmental needs exist in our documented From a medical provider or through your high entry process. It's been moved. Is there a second second moving seconded I'll start by sentino if you can introduce the motion you can speak to that and we'll move to the discussion Thank you, Kyle. First, I'd like to thank the parents and community members of the audience. Your information is valuable. We are listening Both sides You have to understand these decisions are not things So we're trying to be in the best of our abilities to make the right decision for our children in our our district This whole process with our COVID plan COVID-19 plan has not been very smooth On this school year It is my hope that this motion provides the superintendent and the EMT The clear direction from the school board of how they can incorporate facial coverings during a spike of COVID at our schools You would note that wording from the motion is exactly the same. I'm shared by the superintendent two weeks ago One fact is clear the school board and the administration wants to support the preferred option of in-person instructions Five days a week for all of our students This year is no this year. There is no hybrid option of instruction Which means that the mitigation strategy of keeping our students socially distanced from each other This year is no longer possible due to the number Students in our school buildings and our classrooms As a result the superintendent and the executive management team must have the mitigation strategies Excuse me must have other mitigation strategies to employ When the spike of COVID in our school buildings rise The plan that we reviewed and supported in july Was a good plan for when there was very low COVID cases in our community and in our schools It did not fully address if there was an outbreak of COVID in our communities and in our schools We are all aware that since the start of the school There have been a steady rise of positive cases among students teachers and staff It is now the month of october We are trying to make sure that our district's COVID plan has the mitigation strategies It needs to support in-person instructions five days a week When there is an outbreak of COVID-19 in our schools our superintendent shared with us last month He felt that he did not have the authority to require facial coverage if there was a spike of COVID-19 in our schools This uncertainty was not the intent of this board The discussion two weeks ago shared that we support the plan that we wanted the administration to be in charge of keeping our school safe from the pandemic As a result we asked him last month to put together clear guidelines for when our school might require the facial coverage mitigation strategies In order to in order to support the aim of in-person instructions five days a week in our schools Two weeks ago the superintendent shared the updated COVID plan with us he and the emt team Used the data from our schools district in the fall of 2019 to determine how best to decide What the percentage of COVID cases for school grades levels should be in order to enact and require facial coverage mitigation strategy They have wisely taken into account that more than half of our student body is too young for the vaccine Students only 12 years old in order can have the vaccine with parents permission This is why it makes good sense to have a 2% threshold for 4k Resist sixth grade and 4% for 7th to 12th grade You can look at slide 22 of his powerpoint As you already know that the state of wisconsin does not require the COVID-19 vaccination process for students And at this time we have no idea how many of our students 12 years in order currently have the COVID vaccine and our school district is not Allow to ask parents for this information Two weeks ago the majority of us raised our hands to share Consensus of the COVID-19 plan and the new guidelines required for facial coverage now Is our chance to follow up with action this motion utilizes the same language and superintendent at the EMT have recommended us Regarding the mitigation strategy requiring facial coverage when there is an outbreak of COVID-19 in our schools I do not think we should be in the business of suggesting other percentages For different grade levels. They have analyzed the data and have made a strong recommendation of how We can best support our aim of in-person instructions five days a week We have hired professionals to run our school district. I use this school administration the nursing staff And we need to let them do their job They're there with the operations every day Our COVID-19 plan must have a strong mitigation strategy to support our aim to have in-person instructions five days a week I think it's critically important that our board fully support the support ticket and the EMT's recommendation regarding the mitigation strategy in the COVID-19 plan Thank you Okay, is the seconder we go again? Yes, just to add a couple of things. I I see still see this as a compromise. I still see that in my View we should be doing a more proactive than reactive approach to this that being said In the interest of moving forward and absolutely making sure that the school district has the Authority and the opportunity to pivot when we need to as things With this virus may or may not develop. I suggest that we follow the plan that was put together by highly trained professionals that we pay a lot of money to research and look at and study and think about and confer with And this is the plan they came up with and I think it's time to support them And empower them to do those jobs Thank you Now an open discussion Can you put Rebecca? Um, I would like to know how we're going to incorporate sixth grade into this There's a lot of more in the middle schools or if you have like like kind of for example They're on the same building, but they're the separate section and they're changing classrooms. How does sixth grade get incorporated into this? That's the one Yeah, from a sixth grade standpoint at our neighborhood schools the sixth grade is is The most self-contained within the building for the charter schools both SLA So we're going to be each academy and Lake Country Academy as non-issuantalities Can go along with this recommendation. All the forms could look at other metrics Based on where they're at. There are about 71 Students in 72 excuse me in seventh grade and eighth grade at Lake Country Academy So At urban horse man farms for the sixth graders don't mingle with the seventh grade Coming and going obviously when they come and go on the day but during the day the classes have second time Yeah, I'm hopefully I can remember all of my thoughts here Uh As and this is no knock against the administration. We asked you to come up with a plan You gave us a plan this kind of in our lap now to tweak it to see how we think It would be most appropriate for just approval um I as it stands, I can't support this obviously I would actually support mass optional 100 percent all of the time but Now that it's the fourth try at trying to mandate mass and we want to talk to compromise Because you need to have some kind of a bar. I think that this bar is much too low And I'm like I said, it's no knock against the administration had to draw the line somewhere, but it was rather arbitrary and I guess I would propose that A 10 you know 10 percent they throw out last time because that's what is required when County help would be kicking in that's what my nominee falls. I talked to them. That's what they decided to base their 10 percent rule on and so I in my opinion a compromise would be once we get halfway to 10 for county health to kick in and give restrictions. So once we would hit 5 percent COVID positive cases that we then could institute the mass But I would also ask that it's only for seven seven calendar days I mean, I don't understand more 14 came up with because in all honesty the people that are Are being quarantined and out with cold at heart in the schools. So it shouldn't be You know less of an issue. So I would think that seven days would suffice And obviously and I mean as far as the compromise too is that it would be seven days From the point where we're at the five percent or higher That it's not just all of a sudden, you know, if day three, we're still at five percent We still have to do seven days continuous as opposed to all of a sudden the end date comes and it just disappears I mean, I can appreciate that we hit that mark It's got to be for seven days till we get that benchmark cleared and that's not how I understood it the first time But I think that that would make much more sense The five percent I would propose across all grade levels. I think that it's uh I I just I it just doesn't seem right and appropriate and fair To mass six graders in a school where the seventh and eighth graders aren't massed That doesn't make any sense to me And as far as the grade schoolers know, I think the consistency five percent is five percent at all honesty The vaccinations shouldn't come into play in this at all because the vaccinated were being cold And can can contract cold just as well as an unvaccinated. So I don't see why the percentage should be different across the board the other part lead is that Probably within the month parents will have the option to vaccinate their five to 12 year old ones to begin with Because that's an approval process. It should take less than a month So why are we going to revisit these numbers in a month? So we just why don't we just cut off at the chase and make a five percent across the board for the seven days and That would seem to make the most sense to me I just thought I I didn't get a real good understanding of why it needed to be 14 days and once again With the quarantining the sick people were having or passing a COVID test to return to school earlier than that Then the mass really shouldn't be an issue. Those people aren't contagious It shouldn't need to wear a mask to protect anybody else Or to protect themselves from getting it because they just got done and they're negative I guess I'll yield. I don't want to think they have a couple more points Is there anything you would like Seth to address in that or Or if you're yielding that fine, I just didn't know you had Well, you had a specific problem about where we came up with 14 days That's just the standard quarantine period That's what I came from Mark. That's the standard quarantine period and as you looked at Other models that's I guess that's kind of my my point being is that the people are aren't in the school They're in quarantine. So why does the whole school have to still Be subjected to that extra mitigation? Especially if we hit day seven and we're We fell below the line and hopefully that taking sick people out of the school stopped the spread I guess uh You know, uh, the other point of making a compromise And having this, you know, I I think that if we would set a standard that People that want to have it as optional We set a standard that would actually be looked at as being reasonable But I think we're going to have a lot more buy-in and a lot more problems with uh people Pure problems for the building that the illustrators to deal with And I think it would also send a good message if we as a board Can be unanimous or almost unanimous on setting that bar at an Area that we all feel is reasonable. I think that would send a message to both sides Of compromise and that we're showing showing some unity there Mr. Moss pointed it out quite correctly As far as where we were at last year. I happened to actually look back. It was a year ago today that we got an email from south In regards to their shutting schools down and that we were at at that point on that day We had over 600 students and over 90 staff numbers Things and I mean, you know, and that was with mass last year compared to what the numbers are today And I looked at uh, we've got 47 and 53 So, uh, I found it interesting that one phrase that we didn't hear at all tonight was follow the science because our science seems to be That mass optional was working And I would say that we should do whatever we can to keep that as an option for our parents and I think it it bodes well to The instruction too and I don't want to hear a response from this But I'll tell you Santino there was a lot of what you spoke to tonight I couldn't understand because I I need to be watching the speaker and being able to visualize that together A lot of that went right past me like it's too bad Because I think what you had to say was very well thought out and partner for this conversation But using that as an example That's that's a very significant negative effect on instructing our children And it was pointed out too as far as the dangerousness Of cold into our children three out of almost a thousand at least 900 deaths in the state We were I mean and it's not to dismiss that every death was tragic But this isn't the you know, there's a lot more dangerous things that we're doing That we maybe should be doing to protect our children other than to wear a mask and I Think it's time to move on and I think if we set the buyer at a reasonable level at that five percent across all grade levels And for only seven days that I think we get more buy-in and that seems to be a little bit more logical And I mean I could I could go with that if like The other board members are willing to do it, but as the stands, I can't vote the support of I would I would vote for keeping masks optional And just move on and here hopefully you just believe it at that I think we have to be revisiting this every time somebody doesn't like the outcome You know Um, just to make sure that I'm understanding you Correcting what you are officially moving that we amend. No, no, he didn't Can't be restating us when we couldn't support the motion as a current Okay, all right. So that's I just wanted to so so there's no so you're not amended You're not requesting Is as presented by santino the recommendations saw last week or two weeks ago on tuesday for two percent eight four three six four percent seven three twelve with exemption for physical medical or development needs for other medical provider Okay, all right. Thank you okay Couple of points in the discussion One as far as just picking a number from another school district because I I do see this as a compromise If you were in the milwaukee public school district and you had a three percent Great, you would be going virtual They go virtual at three percent in milwaukee. I'm not suggesting you do that But I'm saying you can pull numbers And and from different districts uh as far as Dealing with the the entire school Part of what happens is you have and I still haven't gotten an answer that I'm comfortable with this that I completely understand As far as how we're quarantining and and contact tracing because when you have a Child you frequently have my grandchildren ones in second grade ones in fourth grade. They all are the same school if you Quarantine that class But I would have my grandchildren my grandchildren would be tested and let's say my grandchildren aren't Positive like my kid in that class isn't positive So he still has to stay home because he's in second grade in second grade's quarantine. Let's say that happens his fourth grade brother Could go back to school correct You know, so it you have multiple children in a family that and across and across schools even you've got middle school and high school and so forth This masking is one part of a bigger plan. I didn't just Speak in favor of the masking numbers. I spoke in favor of the entire plan and I I think that's we've gotten Really fixated on this one dimension of a much bigger plan And I find it interesting that we seem to trust the recommendations on everything except for this And you yourself said well, you know, we keep bringing this back if we don't get the result We want you sat in a meeting like this and you said I support the plan that they come up with come up with a plan and I'll support it And now you don't like the results and so you don't want to support the plan I don't believe I don't I don't believe I ever said that. Yes, you did Yeah, you also believe the New York Times of 900,000 kids were in the hospital No, I never said that I never said that mark. Please do not distort what I said and you know, I never said that And as far as you know, I mean people bring up all kinds of very interesting things that that seem to fit with They're looking at the world in a certain way We need to move forward and I do appreciate the fact that you Have a suggestion and I'm listening to it. I don't happen to agree with it primarily because I Feel a tremendous responsibility to the children who are not able to be vaccinated Their children their parents do not have a choice for them to be vaccinated I don't know for certain when that's going to happen If that were to happen and you wanted to entertain something after the that changes And there's time in there so that you have to get it approved Then you have to give people a chance for a dose Then you have to give people a chance for the second dose Then you have to have two weeks beyond that for it to be effective You're not talking about in 30 days those kids are going to be protected There's a period of time that those of us as adults who have gone through this vaccination process Know how long it takes before they tell you that you're actually vaccinated and it's certainly more than a month And I and when people compare this year to last year and say Oh, look at how bad the numbers were and look at how good the numbers are now. I'm thrilled the numbers are better Because so many of adults in this community have gotten vaccinated and and children who are of an age that currently can be vaccinated are A certain percentage and we get that given to us every time Vaccinated and that's why our numbers are lower It had an impact a positive impact that I'm grateful for But you're not comparing apples and apples if you don't put in The impact that vaccination has had on our having better numbers And right now our youngest kids don't have that opportunity And I feel a responsibility to them and their families to do what we can do To protect them until they have the option to go through the entire cycle and actually be protected Thank you, god The concern I have is the word for various reasons, but not only the percentage, but Something that Rebecca had brought up with before through sixth grade if we're looking at population at a building My concern is you have two percent at urban But it wouldn't be two percent at urban because it would be sixth grade is at urban And the motion says student population at a building four through six So the sixth grade is at urban With the seventh and eighth graders, correct So that should actually be four percent. I mean if we were going with this percent Which again, I have concerns about that, but I think the wording in this motion. I cannot agree with because it's a conflict You have children in a different building and if you would go by that percentage that that would That would not be effective In this the other thing I have and my concern about is again as the gentleman said two percent two children out of a hundred in a building Now I know currently at league country I know parents there and They're virtual their fourth greatest virtue One one fourth grade. I think right it's both both and that's 14 percent. That's seven children out of And they're still trying to work this out as far as when do they come back? How long to yell? There's a lot of gray areas And there's some children they have no symptoms. They haven't been exposed to those seven children They want to be in school Now we have those testing facilities as a parent I would say, you know that the teacher is actually at school The teacher is teaching virtual from school So should we not have some variable in that to say if My student my child is fine hasn't been exposed Could I not come back and be with that teacher? So again, I appreciate the administration putting something together. We asked them to do that I think there's a lot of variables in this yet um, the the direct conflict I have right now is the fourth grade the four through six because six is not in the building And should have a different percentage if we can go by that type of criteria So with that I know So just to give you the numbers for the sixth grade Of 186 students at urban and sixth grade two percent will be at four people for students Seventh and eighth grade combined is four hundred and fifteen students And that four percent um, COVID rate will be seven So for four hundred and fifteen students will be seventeen Um and four hundred and eighty six four sixth grade will be four That how does that affect in the building? Because they can be exposed to other students like that effect coming in going out According to your verbiage in this Is at the building So either we change the percentage Or we change the way we include grades Just another procedural question Say Uh, Santino's and in case motion would fail Would we then be in order to uh to To have a proposal that would be That would be similar to what Mr. Mansell had What what would bark at proposal or would we be out of order? No, that would still be in order because the the item on the agenda hadn't Closed yet And if you possibly could even move back in the agenda if you wanted to We're excited for action on the topic so if one motion fails it would not prevent Another board I just wanted to make sure that's why I was wondering if mark wanted to amend But what was going on here? So yeah Um, so I've got mark then k and then Rebecca. Is that Okay, k mark Rebecca I I just like this I just like to accept if he has a suggestion of wording because this motion came from the plan That was put together by set in the team So is there any suggestion that you could Discuss with suits and make them more comfortable on this The reason we had the word building in there was because we wanted it to be a To look at the specifics at those buildings So maybe we're looking at the sixth grade Would need to look at the sixth grade within that building and the number of cases within the sixth grade And look at the seventh and eighth grade and the number of cases at the seventh and eighth grade So the idea was building approach i.e. urban And not looking at all of middle school. We were all sixth grade So that's when you look at those two numbers that really would look at as sense, you know Really to the number of kids in sixth grade on the cases are currently active at sixth grade What is that percent? We didn't hit that two percent if so that would implement That requirement for that 14 days that we put in the proposal But it would not impact the seventh and eighth graders until we got to Or hopefully not, but we would get to that that percent there at four percent So it still was building based It just separated the two those split grade levels of six and seven Does that make sense to you sir? The follow-up on that is also the vaccine if um as you were talking about k with the vaccine The sixth graders 12, right? Are they not 12? sixth graders turn Six graders turn 12 during the sixth grade. Yes, and that is where potentially that population Probably should be grouped with the older children because they could potentially be vaccinated If parents didn't want to do that because I understand what you're trying to do is the the smaller age Groovy As compared to the older But I know this is this is getting into again breaking me down Many many levels I understand But I just think as a parent if I have one child That's in fifth grade and I have one in sixth at different schools But yet the I think it becomes confusing And that's that's my other concern So I think hey that was originally you were still asking a question. Was that well? I'm I'm I'm really hoping we can address the concerns and come to some kind of consensus tonight I think everybody would be really well served by that So I'm still trying to get so you're thinking that parents have You're saying if a parent has a kid at one school in fifth grade and another school I mean That's getting pretty down in the weeds. I think as far as how many people fall into that situation I'm not sure how many there are If we can You know the perfect versus the good. I I don't know, you know, if we can ever address every Instance that could happen. I don't know how often that Maybe it's more up than I really Okay, I had more next than Rebecca Just to reiterate the you know the 2% and Raising the bar Think that argument can actually be made with based on The numbers in the community with coven and the numbers in our schools with coven They seem to be a disparity and it certainly isn't that the schools are getting coven To the community that our kids are getting coven and bring it to school and obviously we're here to try to mitigate that But again that 2% you can have two kids from one family That one's in third grade and one's in fourth grade two percent And boom we hit that mark just because the two kids from the same family and this had nothing to do with school As far as putting masks on these kids You know because maybe they got coven maybe they didn't come to school at all and exposed anybody But now we're masking the rest of the school based on two kids from the same family because they hit the mark Of the 2% so that's why I think we need to raise the bar to a reasonable level and I don't know if for I don't want to make this real complicated especially for It's gonna need several tunnel after this I would think that what ryan was alluding to later actually Santino would just amend it on his own. We don't have to have a family amendment Or else I would say that we actually just just a point a note once the motion has been made it is owned by the body And he would have to withdraw the motion entirely and make a new one The author cannot amend it without the consent of the body So we would have to vote on any changes at this point unless it was withdrawn from before Would you have a suggestion if I make a family amendment or which is an easier process? I mean you could You can you can put forward an amendment if it's a friendly amendment It still follows the same process as a regular amendment because the motion is owned by the body at this point So everyone would have to consent So just to echo like Interating here is that he would as a board you'd say I'd like to put forward the suggestions for the Court amendment you go with them as a board on whether or not that you want that amendment To be you know to change the original motion as a whole that motion passes then that becomes the new amendment for new motions on 32 votes Yes, two votes one would be on the first one floating on the amendment And then the amended motion or unamended in the second one would be to vote The other option is this is that somebody could if we're done discussing Call this motion see where it lands and then decide if they want to do that. I mean that's again, that's that's your Orcas for them Well, I guess I would like to make a friendly amendment To what I suggested before that it's five across five percent threshold across the board and only for seven days So if you're moving that uh moving to amend the motion before us The positivity rate is five percent regardless of grade level And the quarantine period is seven caliber days not fourteen. Is there a second second moved and seconded? We are now in a period of discussion on the amendment through the motion which is for five percent across grade levels And seven not fourteen calendar days. There's this if we're discussing the amendment through the motion So we had a Q in here. So After mark was rebecca david then I have chaise and right Mark anything further to add? I'm sorry. Yeah, but no, I guess I would just reiterate I would hope that spirit of compromise and put in the bar at what Hopefully both sides would see as a reasonable spot Uh that we would get more buy-in and that if we show As a as a board here our support Either unanimously or closely unanimously that that would also maybe encourage some buy-in and uh Being able to uh gain compliance if we were to institute not a mass mandate Numbers I think it's just We got it. I think in order to get you know, I know it's not going to be easy to get buy-in and I understand that I appreciate that I respect people's decisions But I think that we put it at a reasonable level that I think people could at least stomach that and tolerate that Agree to that for seven days Rebecca, yeah, I agree with you. I would keep mass the optimal with my choice because I think the number of where we're going I think They look good. I don't think there's a reason to be boring Any low mandates out there? 5% I think it's a good compromise um One thing I wanted to ask is I called my daughter into school at north And had about a few minute long message that I've ever listened to And basically if you any symptom is considered as COVID symptom you have to get a COVID test So I'm acquiring about that because I don't think there's a lot of symptoms that are COVID symptoms So every time my child calls out sick Or A stomach cramps, which would be considered abdominal pain or something. We're gonna have to get a COVID test Beth, do you want to drop that? I can address it now. I can just say I have to. I think it fits this topic, but yeah Yeah, yeah, you have a good point. Yeah Anything else Rebecca? No, I think it's a good compromise David. So Some of all I think the numbers Are a bit of a move point And the reason why I say that is I asked Seth after the meeting weeks ago And and I respect The apple store and just comparison of last year to this year, but the reality is I think there's some comparison is worthwhile I asked Seth if he could I said if we have this two and four percent in place last year during october november But our numbers were significantly higher than they are now How many schools Would have been masking five five schools That's great. Um, it was it was it was a two high school And middle school central high central high school shared in elementary And jackson jackson elementary That's it so For as much Wheeling and dealing as I think we're trying to do here I'm bringing this up to say The numbers are significantly lower this year. I think in part because of the vaccine I'm hoping that means the low the numbers are going to continue to be lower We will have some kids when Under 12 we're able to get the vaccine. We're going to have some kids that are going to get it Which hopefully will continue to I think the the number of schools That are going to have to mass If any quite frankly That being said I'm a centrist. I always have been I would like to see as many people get on board with this as possible. I appreciate the movement The people are making I can I can live with the five And it's not me that probably has to live with it. It's kids and parents, right? Um, but I think it's important I've just talked to a lot of people who do not come to these meetings Who have said Look at your dashboard. Look at your numbers. Look at look at our community. What's happening in our community I look a lot at the pictures I follow all the schools on social media and I look at all the The north high homecoming dance That was in the comments There wasn't really a mass to be seen The community is moving on and I know people don't like that. I know some people don't like that But this is the community that we live in There are a lot of places that I go That used to be Hardcore mass places. They are not anymore So in the interest of compromise and trying to Move on from this so we're not talking about every two weeks. We can get back to regularly schedule programming I'm gonna And I hadn't caved in Ryan Right, or was it Ryan? We'll fight over Um, you know, thank thank you. Uh, thank you kiff for you And thank you kyle Believe it or not, if miss fursi had not stepped up to play the second they're down with second in the motion Because it is is this is a compromise. Um, and You know You know as a person who is masking, um, I do that for for multiple reasons mainly it's to You know mainly it's to make sure that my friend kato gets it You know But also to the show that you can still be working with masking on um, I think this is a It's a decent number. It's not the 75 percent somebody throughout I think sarcastically. He showed a couple of weeks ago Um, but it is something that we can work Um, and Will it have a whole lot of impact in our schools? I think as david said, I don't think so You know, um, when you look at when you look at how things are, you know, how things have been Um, I don't think we would have this we would Yeah, I don't think the masking will be will be much of an issue. Um, but we do need to put this to that Um, when I had me my proposal a few weeks ago, you know, I the the goal that I had was to have a turn on and a turn off point This satisfies that and I think it's it's at a It's at a goal that if if things do get bad and You know knock on wood and they don't You know, we have a we have at least a break Um, and before I pass mr. Anderson, I will take that beer up on you. It's not Then I yields Just just a little Backtracking, you know, the only am I correct set that the only school we have that has a hundred or fewer students this play one That's correct. Okay. So when we're doing two out of a hundred, right? When we're doing two out of a hundred just realize that that's only looking at a hundred Okay, could you repeat that Wilson What's the population of wilson? Sorry, we could not hear the question. Okay. I'm just saying When mark was using the two out of a hundred now That would only apply to cleveland because that's the only school we have that's that size At the elementary level. Yes, we do have some middle school charter schools that I have fewer students than that a two for an example High school in middle school as well as one or school that have fewer than a hundred students Yeah, I'm looking at the the non-charter It's only two out of a hundred to get to two percent. So obviously I know right, but you said But you said mark mark you said if there are two children in a family and they're both sick The school has demands and that's what you said. No, that's not what I said. That's exactly what you said so if you've got 400 kids at wilson That would be eight children So there's that part of it. There is still the the younger children who cannot be vaccinated Are we going to hold firm to the kids who are symptomatic have to be tested And our what are we doing as far as quarantining? It was stated in a meeting because I again go back to the fact that I moved on the entire plan We are quarantining differently than we did last year. Can you tell me what that difference is? And how we're going to move forward With that The quarantining Is really as we've talked about before Done to the county health department. So when you're identifying those kids that are close contacts, they are quarantining So how many children do we have quarantine right now? Just be a second If that information we have 227 students that are currently named as of yesterday that we're in quarantine I'm just saying looking at the numbers that the case that we have right now that's most active is Lake country And I believe today it went yesterday. It was six today. It's 11 So it almost doubled in 24 hours And those are only the kids who are actually tested So if you have kids who were sent home when they stayed home and the parents are choosing not to test them But just keep them home. They're not factored into that But of the ones that are tested it went from six to 11 in 24 hours I guess if you have a motion to that effect But I think we should probably just focus on the motion is But if there's other motions for other mitigations, well, that's my point is that that has to do with the number that you're looking at And how effective that number is and how important that number Because it moves pretty quickly Okay, do you already have the same I have Ryan You might have sent you know first Thank you. You know than right Thank you, Ryan My hair started to swatch So I just want to make sure that the motion is amended I'm sorry, how do you amend it to the motion? Yeah, I've made it to the motion Yep friendly. Yes 5% With 70 or we just saying 5% That's what I'm doing. Yeah, so I'll clarify. So the the the motion that is currently on the table Is a motion to amend the previously stated motion Which is to strike 2% and 4% and replace it with 5% And strike 14 and replace it with 7 in reference to calendar dates So that in effect in summary, it's a long motion 4k through 12th grade Would have a COVID-19 positive cases reaching 5% of the student population at the respective building Would require facial coverings for minimum seven calendar dates And until the student population rate drops below 5% That is the the current Item of debate that is on the floor Any vote that would be on this would be to approve that change to it. It would not formally adapt That presentation would still have to vote on the original motion Which would be to put forward An additional mitigation chart other questions from the procedure here because it does get Have you got one that that makes sense? Yes Can I can I ask a question? Wait Mark, I understand picking out the five I mean, it's it's an arbitrary number, but it's it's it's in the middle. I understand that Where did you get the seven? Well, I'm just basing that on the I mean the 14 I did to me it didn't make logical sense to quarantine Institute Mass requirements when the people that are out with the cold that aren't even at the school So if if after seven days we drop below the 5% that's telling me that It's not, you know, the spike we've passed through the spike that we're back down below the bar But I mean, obviously on day seven if it's still at 5% or above we'll Continue to mask so did we Thank you. Um, did we We've moved numbers a little bit over time from 14 to 10 or something I mean But I've never heard seven and it's seven calendar days, which is cool. I just I'm just wondering I just I pulled it out because it seemed to make sense because the people that are sick aren't in school because You know, they've had the for whatever the reason that they're out. They have to have the positive The negative test in order to come back to me If if after seven days arbitrarily just like it could have been 10% You know, I went halfway to the 10% for the public health. That's where I came up with five The seven days is half of a quarantine period and if we're If everybody that's been going to school with masks during that period and we're not spiking When we've gotten back below the five it would seem that's seven that's sufficient enough to bring it back down We can be done with it There's still people that might not be out that, you know Are still out for the up to 14 days in quarantine That they can't come back anyway because they they're not allowed back until they get the negative test or whatever Reason is that they could safely come back and I guess that The end just seems seven's a little more reasonable than you know, all these people get sick and now they're out And all the healthy people are still in the school, but they still have that last for two weeks But there's no real reason why you pick seven versus ten There's no real reason why you pick seven versus ten. You just like seven better. Yep. Thank you I've ryan had his hand up since you know, you still have the floor. I believe do you have anything else for this? This time No, okay, so I'm gonna take ryan then suit. I call the question on the amendment. Okay, so um, that is a That is a privileged motion It requires a second. Is there a second on calling the previous question second second So there's no discussion immediately. We're voting and we are voting on ending debate on the amendment Which we would then move to vote on the actual amendment itself. Is there any question on the procedure? All those in favor of ending debate and moving into a vote on the amendment say aye Aye any opposed motion All those in favor of the amendment say aye Aye any opposed nay We're doing the chairs if the motion passes so we are now back into discussion on the amended motion Which states that 4k through 12th grade would be 5% of the student population that they're building Would require facial coverings for a minimum of seven calendar days And until the student positive case three dropped below 5% So you had the board before the the motion had been called that and that's why I was calling a point of order Calling for the question. Okay. So with that I use So we are still in discussion on the amended motion, which again is 5% 4k through 12th grade seven calendar days or in total And until below 5 I'll make it easy to be able to say and I'm not hearing any further discussion So I would call the vote All those in favor of the motion they're really local We'll call the So we'll start at this end Aye nay Aye Aye nay Motion passes move on to um item number seven And David, I think we're still within the range of the discussion about into the uniform tonight correct So we we we discussed that this was in spring that you go go long The next session is to adjourn this closed session for wisconsin state statute for the district annual performance evaluation of superintendent Um out of fairness to set and function the board if we were going extremely late We were considering postponing this item. However, I think We're still in a fairly decent hour given recent timing And if the board is I would like to continue with that if the board is okay with that Anybody object? Sorry, otherwise it's going to get kicked in two weeks and I can tell you that agenda is probably That's a fairly significant There's a lot going on That doesn't happen anything to do with math So Four members can we knock this out tonight still we still feel we've got the energy to take care of this It's not going to be night. It's not going to be three hours. It's gonna take Half hour 45 minutes So I'm seeking a motion to adjourn the closed session for wisconsin state statutes section 19.85 So one to the c to discussing annual performance evaluation in the superintendent according to policy I so moved second moved and seconded. It's the roll call vote. We'll start on this end. Hi Hi We are adjourned the closed session Um, I mean technically as long as they're in the room, um Um Moved and seconded all those in favor say aye Any opposed we are adjourned