 What's up everybody? I'm the man goose and this is for the minions a weekly podcast supposed to be weekly We didn't do one last week, but it's supposed to be weekly podcast about upcoming third-person bobas I was a little lazy this week. I didn't I didn't schedule a guest host So it's just me and my friend and co-host jelly knees. How you doing jelly? Well, man goose you can dance if you want to you can leave this world behind But you know, I'm always happy to be here on for the minions Even if I'm remote this week Yeah And thanks for getting that song stuck in my head. He did it at before we even started recording We got a lot to talk about this week. We got a lot going on We got predecessor has their stress test that should be going on even as we speak Overprime had a community corner a bunch of skin concepts Fault just they just had their crunch master race sort of thing We've already talked about fault and crunch and then a theory always got a couple of some new splash splash art and then some announcements to make and Yeah, we're going to get into it. Let's start off with Definitely predecessor because that's probably the biggest news out of all of these right now now The test runs from if you're watching this it's april 1st through the third and You just go to the their steam page and you can register for the stress test And I don't think there's a limit on how many people can test. I think you could just Pretty much if you go to that page and sign up you're in is that one? I didn't get the play in the last one. Is that one? How the last one worked jelly? Basically, so you requested access and then they in waves Very very quickly but in waves rolled out keys to everybody. I think within the first hour pretty much everybody had access that had requested it so Uh, which is good to see that they're not putting a limit on it from last time Where they didn't have a limit at all, but at the same time is I think We talked about it. I think before maybe we did. I don't know We you and I talked about at the very minimum in that the announcement was very Short notice for them, which is odd And so it could be that they're not putting a limit on it, but they're hoping that because of that short notice Maybe we get fewer people Fly it under the radar. So we'll have to see what happens Yeah That's that's funny. I like that um Well, I got to play it. Um, they had a content creator event that I'm not allowed to talk about until this comes out So jelly you're you're hearing exclusive information that nobody's supposed to know about But I'm sure like everybody knows about anyway, but yeah, they had a content creator event They let us um capture video and play so I have played predecessor prior prior to the recording For the minions and it's fun. It's a lot of fun. I'm hoping that They get um plenty of people into play and I hope it goes better than last time I could only imagine it's going to go better than the last one because they Specifically hired a company that deals with back end To handle predecessors. So they should not have any back end problems this time. I wouldn't think I mean if everybody can get into one game, that's already better than last time. So, you know Yeah, right Instead of a handful of people getting into maybe two or three games Yeah, exactly. I will say and I'm I'm going to get fucking crucified for saying this There wasn't as much progress made on predecessor as I thought there was going to be there was progress the game is fun I'm I'm not saying that I'm not trying to talk shit about predecessor I'm just saying I thought they would be further along On this stress test than they actually were like you still don't have controller support Um, you still can't change your ability set cast settings. Um, there was audio issues. They're just It didn't it the overall game I've been struggling to find a word for it. It felt soft like melee Hits on minions didn't feel like you were really hitting anything um Gideon and the fey of course have a big wind up whenever they cast a basic attack because they're throwing it from their hands But even after throwing it the projectile went super slow So like the entire process of basic attacking with either one of them just felt bad I think there's I think there's there's a lot of fine tuning they need to do with predecessor yet Which is really kind of sad to hear to one extent because it's been nine months now since their last test It'll be nine months as of april um, I mean, that's a long time to Essentially just get your back end theoretically in order depending on how this weekend goes get your back end in order and add three or four characters Right and so like I mean ability cast settings was I know a big gripe for me in all of their previous tests So not having that sucks not having controller support. We know is going to suck for a lot of people. Yeah um I Hopefully I mean so the from just from what you're saying. I have not played it myself yet But where over prime is probably a slightly overly crisp and like really hard for the description you've been giving It sounds like you're saying predecessors kind of on the opposite of that swing where they're Lacking that kind of crispness of of actions and kind of things like that I think that's a very good way to to to say it because over prime is a little too crisp. Yeah and Like and and predecessor is just a little too soft. So So we need the goldilocks game. Where's the where's the goldilocks game where we get it? It's kind of fault right now like fault People love the shit on fault, but fault feels great to play Like if all three of the games were to release right now Well, I mean fault's out right now But if predecessor were to release in its current state and over prime would release in the state that was in for their last closed beta test If I was forced to choose to play one, I would choose fault That's a that's a bold fucking statement that I'm gonna get crucified for Seriously, I mean leave your comments below now But I mean for real they're over prime. I'm not saying that down the road over prime or predecessor won't overtake fault I mean, I'm kind of sure that it will happen actually but For right now um You could definitely tell that fault has been a live service game for two years because they've got shit figured out and they've been Making the changes as they go their trial it they they have benefited more from trial and error than these other games Because the other games don't have any trial and error. There's been very few trials for them. So yeah Yeah, yeah, and that's I mean that kind of gets into a point. I wanted to talk about with fault So if you have anything left on predecessor, I think we should do that first. Okay Um, yeah, I'll really like anything else to talk about predecessor. Just I mean look for me in the game I'm gonna be playing all weekend. I this is an opinion that I formed only over like about eight hours of game time on tuesday so maybe over the weekend, I'll Maybe something will change and maybe I'll just realize maybe something will snap in my head But for now, I think it feels a little incomplete Yeah, well, yeah, look out for man goose and I because uh, we'll dominate games Just like we did the last rest test. We were together in man. So By the way, I play I played with smashly Oh, did you perfect? Yeah, great. I think smash is gonna be in this weekend. I can dominate her again For whatever reason I played out of my goddamn mind that game. I wasn't against her though I was with her this time. Okay. She's like my good luck charm Whatever she's in a game either against me or with me I'm guaranteed to do some like I was doing shit like I was stated it back with steel I was like, all right, wait for Gideon the portal and Gideon portal towards his team Then I altered on top of everybody Nice like called shots and shit. Yeah, it was pretty nuts, but Oh well So I think with fault man goose something I was thinking about today is that I With the release of crunch have been increasingly impressed with the fault team And In a way that like when things go wrong, for instance, crunch had several pretty game breaking issues day one Right. They got a fix out there within 24 hours. They were on top of it. They addressed it They put a fix out and put it out there I would rather it be fixed at first, right? But of course you can't get everything every time but seeing Where they've come from to where they are They've massively improved over that two years that they've been out Like there's no question about that even just not even from a game perspective just in a dev team perspective In terms of turnaround in terms of quick answers for things and getting that stuff figured out Right, and I think that gives them an insane edge over these other two companies Because they have the practice already If they would stop shooting themselves in the goddamn foot, they might be able to use that advantage That they have to get ahead, but they have not they have not used that advantage um Yeah, unfortunately fault just it's the it's the popular game to make fun of that people Without even playing the game will shit on it. We'll be like, oh, that's just a That's just a cash grab. It's like it's been out for two years. Like I think people have paid 20 dollars where it got their money's worth by now if they've been playing it, but um I don't know man I do believe that fault is going to eventually get left in the dust They just don't have the money to compete with predecessor or overprime and Like I'm I'm saying all these problems with predecessor. I'm sure they'll get fixed rather quickly Overprime we've seen how fast they can move like They're I guarantee their next closed beta test is going to be a significant improvement over their last closed beta test Because they move fast. They know what they're 100 Um, so I don't know if fault will be able to keep up um Maybe if they would have established a lead with a really good game from the get-go But that's kind of the the gamble the risk you take is they released the game in a state that people just It did not was nothing like paragon whatsoever. So people hated it People didn't seem to realize that it was going to take a couple years of work to improve it to get it To where it is now So they kind of missed the boat um that gamble. I don't think worked out for them I hate to say it but I said it on the fault partner panel. It's sinker swim for fault right now and I they seem to be sinking Yeah, I love the game too. I love the game and I love their um, their their dev team and everything like it's a great game, but I don't I don't think it's going to be able to compete with predecessor or overprime Yeah, I mean they need money or players and they have neither right now. And so it's Despite their improvements that they have made Right if something doesn't change soon It's it's hard to say that they're going to pull off any kind of come back or overtake of these other two companies by any stretch Yeah, it's unfortunate I'm fucking fortunate agreed um Let's see fault lose the they had cyber drunk with their community spotlight. That's kind of cool He's just a content creator makes a lot of memes And then they had the crunch master skin race whenever crunch was dropped They had a race to see who could get to his gold skin first not his master skin his gold skin Which we spoke about this on the uh partner panel I thought this was a responsible decision from them Because it takes a hell of a lot longer to grind up to master than it does to gold And this prevents people from Literally killing themselves trying to get to gold first and it was some kaijin one Yeah, which is good for kaijin kaijin's played this game non-stop since its release So good for kaijin Yeah, and uh, he gets I think it's like a special avatar or some shit. I forget what it was I wasn't all that interested in the master skin race to be honest I just think it's something a paragon did right? So yeah It makes sense that they started implementing it. It's a great Retention thing for that that first week in the the characters out So I think it's a great idea I think It shows their mastery system and how much of a grind it is by using only the gold instead of using to the actual Master, but at the same time, I don't think that's a bad thing. Mm-hmm You don't want mastery skins to be easy to get by any account Yeah, I mean paragon People would do the same thing in a weekend. They could grind out the master skin for A lot of the heroes and so it made them less special because everyone could have them if they just played the character enough Yeah Exactly And I think that's all I had for fault unless you had something else you wanted to talk about No, not at all Cool beans. Let's move on to over prime Um, that'll wash a lot of stuff going on in their work in progress But the main thing I want to talk about with over prime was they had a community corner. Did you watch that jelly? I did not I haven't had a chance to unfortunately. Oh, it was so good like even though it was in korean It had such strong Like epic paragon community corner vibes to it like it was so good like um Just the interaction between the various developers mainly ranger and rocket mania And they were just talking about the history of the game how things came about how they met up and I don't know. It was just it just had just a real it just gave me a real good warm and fuzzy it was just You know a bunch of dudes talking about the video game that they're making and it was uh I I thought it was really really well done Like you should once you get a chance once we're done here like head over to their announcements in their discord And check that out because it's it's really it's really good Yeah, I mean I've heard nothing but amazing things now from you But even other people that I know watched it said that it was incredible So I think that's a really good thing for them to establish that sense of camaraderie in their own community. Yeah It was it was interesting too. Um, I was talking to stunt the other day. I was telling me about about primex, which was The game so we've started with which was supposed to be a battle royale with the Paragon heroes. I didn't think they would ever bring that up again, but they brought it up there in that community corner Just like they kind of hinted at it Yeah, that exists. We don't talk about it very much Yeah, that's a bad word anymore battle royale Seriously Um As far as in their work in progress that the face skin that we talked about last weekend They finished that concept and it actually does look like better. I didn't think it could look better Looks really really good And then they had a qualmskin concept. Did you see that shit jelly? Yes. Oh my god. Oh, it looks so good. Yes Ah Man, I'm not even a qualm player and that skin looks amazing to me Yeah, which I say about almost every skin that I see from them is like, I don't even play that character But I'd buy that skin right and that's 100. That's huge 100 it just looks bad ass. Yeah, it's so good I suck with qualms so bad and every time I try to in paragon and fault whenever I've tried to play qualms It's no bueno, but uh, yeah, that's skin That's your next learning a hero man goose is you'll have to learn qualm or hawn as they call him. Yeah, you're right hawn Yeah, that's a really cool skin Um, they had they had some concepts for Grim that were pretty cool and then they had some kind of weird spaceship thing like that they made so The spaceship I think has to do with their character select Because if you remember their character select it says welcome to the ark or something Yeah, yeah, and then you're on What feels like a spaceship definitively and then you're being portaled you're taken somehow to The battlefield right and so i'm curious if that spaceship has something to do with that transition Or what they're going to do to build into that somehow good call good call It does look a little bit like their towers, too So that could maybe tie into the whole thing trying to bring the theme more cohesively together. Yeah Yeah, I like that idea as a as just a lore concept. That's really cool Yeah, you are kind of it's like you're in it's like you're on the um entertainment deck of a spaceship And like we've seen With fault I love them every time I see them i'm i'm i'm impressed Is there like transition animations of like the portal opening into The character select and then the transition out of character select into the map and like right I could definitely see over Prime doing something very similar to that I would love to see if they've been down from that Yeah, oh it'd be so cool. That'd be neat Especially with like the spawn effect on the platforms the base platforms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You could really make that a portal effect that they're being Portaled from one from the spaceship down onto the platform as well Yeah, that portal effect is pretty much already there. So yeah, exactly and Uh, the last thing I want to talk to talk about with over prime was uh, they had new item art Which looked significantly better than any of the item art that we saw in their first outing I highly doubt this will be in the next closed beta test But I am looking forward to this because it does look much much better than what they had That's some really basic stuff last time Yeah, it was it was good. It wasn't terrible, right? But this is definitely a class above that for sure. Yeah That other stuff was serviceable. This is actual polished finished product You would want to see in the game And then um That's all I had for over prime once you had anything else jelly Nothing immediately comes to mind. Hopefully we get that announcement of their next test soon I've been kind of like itching for over prime a little bit. Yeah It was fun. I mean you can't deny that it was fun. Yeah 100% Um, so ethereal, I'll let you take it away with the ethereal announcements that you want to put out Yeah, I mean, so let's start with the splash arts. Well, we've got talos As a complete redesign of talos actually. So this is his base skin now So this splash will be his base skin. So when you get talos as a character This is the skin that you'll start with is this this I want to give it a name, but it's just base talos now I love this skin so much like it just It's not that I didn't like his old one But this one just kind of makes him feel more like that bounty hunter collecting trophies Kind of guy that his lore makes him out to be And I think this sells that a lot more It definitely has a more savage appeal to it And I like that a lot. I do like it much better than his other his original base skin Like we kind of shit on his base skin a long time ago Yeah, we did But yeah, this the new one looks way better Yeah, for those of for those of you that did enjoy the original base skin though It's not going away What it's going to be turned into is called it's going to be called a classic talos skin And what it's going to be is anyone that made an account prior to the pre alpha going out Will gain classic talos automatically. Oh cool So that's not it's not disappearing. It's just Going into a skin an actual skin now and this will be his new base So the skin that I shit on I will be rocking for clout Exactly. Oh, yeah, I've got classic talos man. Like what do you That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I like that And then you had some other splash art too. Yeah Yeah, we had frost so frost is a character that we've teased a couple times in past community corners And this is their official splash art. And so I mean It sells the creature, right? You get the phaser beast feel for sure that you've mentioned several times But I I love this splash art too with the tendrils and just It makes it feel Like a quadruped like running around and dashing and Starting back and forth, right? And so it's it's a cool design that way So that's the official name is frost. I think that's the first time frost. Yeah. Yeah f r. O. S. S. Is is the character's Yeah, that looks really fucking cool. And just people are going to be so excited to have an actual quadrupedal creature In one of these mobas and uh, you know, if anybody would pull it off, it would be you guys, of course So yeah, I'm pushing the line, you know I'm very excited to get my hands on frost whenever I'm sure that'll be well down the line that we actually get to play frost, but It's cool to see The splash art is fucking amazing as always Oh, yeah, and that's the art team and the animation team Uh, I've been doing a great job on these for those of you that are on patreon There's some behind the scenes of how those got created on there as well that people have been getting So it's really cool to just see it all kind of come together and fit those pieces in right on And then unfortunately, I do have bad news that I have to give after all that cool stuff, right? Yeah, um, unfortunately, we are delaying our test. We originally said that we were looking for a test in april And unfortunately, we're gonna kind of un indefinitely delay that There's some really core features that we're working on that are on our roadmap That are just not ready yet and we want to be able to implement those get them thoroughly tested before we have a test We don't want to like all right two days before the test. Yeah, they're in let's hope they go well That's not something we want to do by any stretch So we're indefinitely delaying the test until we can solidify those are in well tested And on through things like controller support Some cast setting stuff like some pretty core moba items Okay, right we want to make sure are in there before that next test going forward So it is indefinite. We'll definitely keep people posted as to when it's going forward But that is unfortunately what's going on Okay, right on I don't mind that too much because We have had several tests for ethereal now, which I didn't expect to have that many in a row already So but there was and there was actually a lot of changes between those tests But um, yeah, if you guys need time to do core programs and stuff instead of releasing the game or Having the game tested in an unfinished state. I think would be a lot better for you guys overall I like like what you said like I was saying with fault. They released their game a little too early and it bit them in the ass Mm-hmm Absolutely And we don't want like there'd only be one or two changes between tests, right? Ideally we're going out there and showing significant improvement and significant changes with each test And with our map, which is going to be completely different for this next test as well We really want to like have as many things completed and on on the tapes possible To kind of present a new foot forward into ethereal Okay, right on and you said that's indefinite. So we have no Yeah, I don't have any kind of time frame Okay that I can give or anything It's just one of those once we once we know more of when these systems will be in place and when they're tested We'll definitely be keeping the word out for everybody getting that next test right on Okay, then um, I guess until then I'll be Looking at my frost background on my computer That's just awesome I'm probably not gonna be a character. I will know I say that now. Oh, I'll probably I'll probably never play lia I said that so many times And then I was saying I was gonna play nothing but lia and here we are The lia player and I'm a malaya player. We completely flipped character. I know right. We did we did But that's okay All right. Do you have anything else for ethereal? Uh, I think that's everything. All right, cool. I actually didn't come up with a um, I was so fucking lazy this week I didn't come up with a uh a topic discussion or anything So, I mean we could just make it a short a short episode if you want or if you have something you want to talk about We could just we can talk about that Uh I think we talked about everything I can think of it at the moment I mean, I'm excited for this weekend for predecessor See where things go. Hopefully it's a better test for them fingers crossed And it leads into a lot more competitive future for all three of these games, you know, yeah I would like to see that then forcing each other to strive a little harder work work a little more I'm hundred percent I think I will but you know what I did see No, go ahead. I'll let you I'll let you finish first Oh, no, I'm just going to say that I'm going to say That I intentionally made this episode short because I knew that the predecessor stressed as was going on And I didn't want to take up too much of people's time Yeah, yeah, that was that was totally it. The good news is right. We saw emotes for predecessor So what they're saying is that you can dance if you want to man goose. You can leave our world behind Leave our door behind I had to bring it back one more time. It's the shouldn't be dance um I think that's gonna About wrap it up for this week then. Um, yeah, if you guys want to host Uh, just hit me up. Let me know if you want to come on here and talk about anything you want to talk about Let me know in the comments below or hit my dms on the on the discord and we'll let we'll have you on here And we'll we'll bullshit around about all this stuff, but um, yeah plugs jelly You got anything to plug Uh, you know nothing nothing crazy to plug this week just all the games man Yeah, go play predecessor. Go follow all these things try fault if you haven't Keep an eye on ethereal over prime is coming as well right, I think they're all reaching a point where it's We're gonna see a lot of critical stuff being being done in in the space for each of these games So it's a good time to be following all of them I think we're about at the stage We're going to see which one's going to just fall off the map and the other which ones are going to Pull forward Uh, yeah, um, I got nothing to plug as Usual if you're watching this you're already on my channel. So cool. And uh, yeah, that is going to wrap it up for this week, um Yeah, look for us look for jelly look look for team jelly goose in the in the predecessor for now This is the for the mania's crew signing off you guys have a good one You can dance if you want to leave this world. I don't know why it's stuck in my head today, but yeah, man