 Next dope. Okay. I used to go over there to the studio all the time They were jamming low So I really was a fan Oh, I mean school like you say he always been like that let's tap into you one time You know like like when you guys first started a PMG, you know, you guys was how did just give me a rundown of What happened? Tell them how they see it started, bro. Man Shit, I had me a spot. That's how it really started. My partner had the studio next dope. Okay I used to go over there to the studio all the time They were jamming low That's low So I really was a fan No commissary no bill money you're probably fucking this broad effort. So I had a problem I said, bro, what that door with y'all? You've got a little shake I said, shh come on shit. I put that bread behind you baby. Let's go So you've seen it in me. Yes, sir. You didn't mind putting it putting the bread up to try this Anybody going yes, sir. That's love facts So so how was that for you like making that that initial step to say I'm gonna work with scooter Mack and not You guys didn't know did y'all know each other before we know each other So what did you think when he came at you about that? Well, you know, I was seeing about a couple times You know, it's anyone just the first time it was like, you know saying a few times You know saying and then he just come come back like God damn this shit jamming this shit jamming broke What were we doing? So shit? I had already had PMG as a model You know I'm saying in my head and it was going because I couldn't get signed by nobody I'll start up my own label and then shit and it just came by we just You know I'm saying started this shit and he put put the bread up so we can't co-partners with me So PMG started what year was that spot? Oh, oh, oh, oh, yes, sir. Yeah PMG what what does it stand for give it to me when we initially started out? It was profit money gooders, okay? No, I'm saying but no ever since No, I say probably by 2015 16 kind of went a little bit more corporate with it and made a profit music group Yeah, that's that's dope. That's dope. Mm-hmm. So and and so you guys start this this label You didn't know how to start no label. Well, how did you do you do you threaten in a dark place? Yeah? I'm in a view of now, but they So you're going into a place where you have never been before right? Yeah So how do you say okay? I'm gonna do this label and this was a time when being independent just wasn't that popular I was looking at you know, I was looking at labels. It was already here like the rabble lice And I can't sleep. I'm tossing turn candlesticks in the dark visions of bodies just wild house No, I'm saying and you know, we had people in the city doing independent things you had RP 24k, okay? Yeah, real real records. No, I'm saying and you know my partner from I can't say my partner OG from the hood said Buster had a guy with his guy name Thurman Patterson And they started to turn the life records which would get it put out get a man's first It's my new go man. So, you know, I was studying just studying the people around me man You know I'm standing and found out what I need to do and you know, she me and school got together We went got the DBAs and the LLCs and you know, she just went in from there and they're like 0405 That's crazy man. Like like like and when he did he come back to you because you the you the Entrepreneur around here you running things from that angle. You like okay nigga. How much you said he'll It went hand in hand So y'all was together like listen. Yes, sir. We got to get this. We got to get that You were telling me we got to get this or he may come up with something But did you reach out to any of the other label owners just to try to get a understand or did you have Anybody that you can get a whole bunch of trial and error. That's what I thought early on And like I said, it's the CD era, you know, it's not it's not the streaming area So you had that we was dealing with nilson's town scheme. You know what I'm saying? Yeah And then, you know, she we was doing a lot of underground projects the way we just setting them all out the trunk Did you did you ever link in with cap of the bomb? Oh Cap of the bomb Low pay a diamondy. Y'all were pushing through them niggas y'all. Y'all knew the town cause you got niggas coming from out of town Going to these niggas too. You know what I'm saying? That's where everybody's We just didn't wait on that neither to though. We went we went in the streets. So of course, of course That was that was I treated the shit like a job and we had our everybody our young niggas that we had them at We had them out there. So early early. You had to pay them too though Yeah, they gotta go out there for nothing. They had their own projects. They got paid off their own projects So they push the next shit. Yeah, who would who the hardest nigga to go out there and market for you back in day? Get that nigga shot out big boy Yes, sir, I shot out my boy big boy man that history man, png man But I gotta put young cove in there too. Call you a man, sir Yeah, young cove was in there too. He was he was a bad motherfucker gonna send them cd Yeah, we on boss talk one on one