 We're getting ready to get started, hopefully a few more folks will join in. Thank you so much for taking time of your evening to lead to hear about our project that we are very excited to present for your community. My name is Lisette, I work for the transportation and public works department, specifically the capital delivery division and I'm the program manager for the mobility infrastructure team. We want to present today about an intersection improvement project that was chosen as part of the team one program for your community. And Derek White is the project manager and he will be presenting here shortly. We also have Jeffrey Allen, who's our public communication specialist. And he's making sure that we don't have any technological issues. Also, please be aware that this meeting will be recorded and it will be available for public viewing. Jeff can provide those details at the end of the meeting. If you please write your questions on the chat, I will try to answer those questions as Derek is moving to the presentation or at the end of the presentation. With all that Derek, would you take it away? We'll do listen. Thank you for that kind introduction. This meeting is the community meeting for Northdale street at Las Vegas trails, which is the intersection improvement project is city project number. 10 1591 is within the city council district number 3. And council member Brian bird is is is the council member. This is Mr bird. Here does he wants to give give a brief introduction. Our discussion before we get started with the rest of the presentation. If not, we can continue. So my name is Derek white. Like I said, said, I'm the senior project manager on this project. So I'm in charge of. Making sure this project keeps. I'm in the transportation, public worst department, capital delivery division. So, with that, let's get started with the agenda. Let's get started with the agenda. Go. So, on the agenda on the background, just going to discuss briefly on the project change information. We're going to, we're going to look at the location of the project. We're going to discuss some of the existing site conditions. At the project site. Also, I'm going to touch briefly on the intersection control evaluation that we asked our consultant. To, to, to come to put together during the conceptual design of this project. And I'm going to briefly discuss some intersection types and give their comparisons. And with, with the information that we receive from the consultant, we're going to look at the proposed improvements. So we're talking a little bit about that. We're going to look at the benefits of this improvement as well as the construction schedule. So on. On May 5, 2018, voters considered proposition. Which included intersection improvement. So, and then city council adopting appropriation ordinance. To allocate budgets to, to projects of the fund program. So this project was identified. With other intersections throughout the city and in the 2018 bond. Program and specifically for this intersection for intersection improvements. This was to enhance the traffic and pedestrian safety. By reconstructing intersections and installing. So it's fair to say that this location, the project is located. Between midway, maybe between 30. And it's East of. So what this area of photograph shows. It shows the existing conditions. And as you can see, this is controlled intersection with stop signs. And loss of faith is trail. On the north side is a four lane divided roadway and on the south. There's five, five lanes on the south. And normally they'll actually go to the intersection. Two lanes on the south. But as you can see, there's no, there's no crosswalks, there's no ramps, there's no. Accessibility for pedestrians, which creates an unsafe condition condition. So during the conceptual stage of the project city staff. As the consultant to develop a intersection control. Which is pretty much what we call ice. And this ice report compares the existing intersection. With a proposal to signal lies intersection. What, in addition, it compares a proposed roundabout section. So it compares all. All these three scenarios. And the highest report is a data driven performance based report that pretty much evaluates alternative. Alternative designs of intersections and accepted geometry and prepares the geometry, as well as the control solutions. And the result of the ice report. Is that the ground about was determined to be the preferred alternative. So, compared to other alternatives, it provided efficient operations. It provided and has safety. From a vehicle and. That's your standpoint. And also, right. The lowest life cycle calls compared to. To, to the alternative. So, looking at the different types of intersections so comparing. Comparing that to different intersections, the traffic signal. Intersection type is pretty much has higher conflicts. So there's, there's several conflict points. That involves vehicles that involves veterans that can be an issue. That can be an indication of unsafe, can be unsafe condition. With all those conflict points, you can have accidents of fatalities. You're pretty much waiting in line with a signal. Our traffic type intersection. Also, this involves a user of control devices to, to ensure the safety of the intersection, which involves spending quite a bit of money. For infrastructure, but compared to a roundabout, there's conflict points. And, and this, these conflict points can be compared to a traffic signal that can decrease up to 75% of conflict points. So, this is, this is an indication that roundabouts are safer. Then traffic signals. And also there's hard, you hardly wait going through a roundabout so the operations would be improved. It's also environmentally friendly because the carbon dioxide emissions throughout the atmosphere is reduced. And there's no control devices so. You're not really spending money in order to make the intersection more, more safe. Your control is actually other drivers. You have to control how other, you know, watch out for other drivers. So, there's really no additional infrastructure that is needed in order to, to control vehicles through the intersection. So, with the result of the, of the, of the, of the alternative, our design consultant came up or developed a design schematic of the proposed improvements. And you can see in this slide, this is schematic over or superimposed over an area that shows how the, how the geometry is going to look after construction. And what you see here on Las Vegas trail, there's a bypass lane is going northbound and going into the interest and going into the roundabout. The geometry here is designed at low speeds. So, so is when you're driving, when you're driving through the intersection, you might feel like you're driving through a school zone, if you want to compare that. And around the intersection. See, we have sidewalk pads for pedestrians. We have crosswalks and ramps. And in the, at each island, we have refuge areas for pedestrians. So if you get stuck at the intersection, because there's increased traffic flow, you know, you have a place to. And to refuge yourself or protect yourself because, you know, you don't want to try to cross from one end to the next, you know, in one go. So you have, you have some room to to where you can be safe as a pedestrian. So to summarize this intersection is going to be a complete reconstruction to the roundabout intersection to a roundabout intersection. So install a new accessible pads and ramps and crosswalks. We're going to modify the existing sidewalks to conform to the regulations. And I forgot to mention here, we're going to have a left turn lane. It's going to be dedicated or it's going to be a left turn only lane that's going to that's going to go into these on the northbound of Las Vegas, Northbound. Lanes or North, Las Vegas into the gas station. So you can. And also, there's an additional component of this project, which is public art, which is was allocated for 20, 20, 2018 bonds. And what's going to be part of it was selected for public art. So it's going to enhance the character of the neighborhood with public art at the center of the roundabout. And the estimated construction costs is around 2.2.2 million dollars. So that with the roundabout there's certain benefits like I said there's going to improve the mobility and safety of pedestrians. And that's because we're going to add some some crosswalks, we're going to add some refuge areas and the medians. And we're going to ask some of some walking paths like so, like, like sidewalks and and also some ramps for for ADA to be ADA compliant. And then also it's going to have enhanced driver safety. So remember, I said, it's going to be those conflict point vehicles and pedestrians. So it's going to have increased potential of conflicts compared to traffic signal. And it's going to improve the intersection operations. So it's going to be environmental friendly because there's no stopping go. And it's pretty much hardly awaits. So it's going to improve the environment with decreased with decreased amount of carbon dioxide emissions into the into the atmosphere. And it's also going to improve the traffic operations. There's not going to be too much stopping go or waiting. The neighborhood is going to be enhanced by public art. So that's a that's a big benefit. And, and, and for the schedule, right now we're working at 60% design. So we're at the 60% stage, the construction plans to start a winter 2021. The estimation, the estimated duration of the project is about 10 months or less. So, with that, that concludes my presentation. If you have any questions or concerns. You can, you can email me or you can give me a, give me a call. I'll be happy to talk to you. So with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions. I have. Yeah, go ahead. I didn't see any questions in the chat, but you're welcome to unmute and ask questions. Okay. What order do you want us to do it in? Jeff, do you want to help with that? Can you hear me? We can hear you. You can go ahead and go first. Everyone else is muted at the moment. So feel free to ask your question. Well, I have several. Are you having to take over any property from either retail or residential to expand this roundabout or will it fit into the current footprint? Yes, it fits into the current footprint. We're not really acquiring it right away. Okay. We are improving some sidewalks. So we're happy to, to determine whether we need some temporary construction easement. Is it possible that we will need some temporary construction easements to do the reconstruction or to redo the sidewalks? But other than that, we won't need to acquire it. Well, that's good. Do you see a problem with emergency vehicles, which use that intersection a lot with people being able to get out of the way of an emergency vehicle, say the fire trucks? Well, yeah, there's, there's a, there's, there should be an issue. I really don't have experience whether vehicles cause an issue or emergency vehicles cause an issue. But there's in the center of the roundabout, there's a an emergency apron where there's an apron where emergency vehicles or vehicles can pull up closer into the center of the roundabout and try to get out of the way. So we have, we have that. Good to know. How about the city buses? Will they have any help navigating that? No, no, I don't, I don't, no, I don't believe so because when the geometry of the roundabout is run like what we call a truck temple is turning out about to make sure that they're they clear certain, you know, tires clear certain curve line. So, so I don't anticipate that buses. And so the geometry of the roundabout is dictated by the design what we call. And so we take into account the type of road that Las Vegas really is and the kind of traffic that he has so we know that that you have emergency, you know, vehicles and buses, you know, public buses, cool buses, etc. So that's what it takes the size of the roundabout. So, and the apron is pretty large also so the apron and it's there with the purpose of for you for it to be manageable. So all these large vehicles can navigate the roundabout with a problem. That's good to hear. Last question. This will be a huge change for this neighborhood. Will there be some form of tutorial or information given to the residents to prepare them of how to navigate this? We certainly will have one more, at least one more meeting that we will will have before we even attempted to construction and maybe at that point, maybe we can have in person meetings. We have videos, we have materials. You know, we recently completed the construction of a roundabout on the east side of the city and we already shot a video of it so people can actually see, you know, how it's operating right here in the city of Fort Worth. So we have a lot of materials available. It's just a matter of making them accessible so the residents will actually like, like, like use them or look at them. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if perhaps through the public school system. They could also send that information to the families and the parents to make sure that. Absolutely, absolutely navigated because it's going to be very confusing. I'm sure for a lot of people. We can certainly contact Western Hills. You know, both the elementary and the high school that are just on the street and provide materials or, or maybe if they have a meeting, an in person meeting later, you know, this fall with the parents, you know, the PTO, you know, maybe we can request to attend to be there. The reason that this intersection was prioritized pretty high is because of. How confusing it is the way it is right now with me. Yeah, I've been down here for 50 years. I know how confusing. So, so I think that. I think the random, but it's going to be a big improvement, but people are a little, you know, we understand that when the people, you know, it's a new thing, but. But we just constructed one in the on the east side of the city and we shot a video of it and operations and it's working really well. So. We have a lot of materials like handouts and. And information to, to, to provide to the residents and we hope to come back and talk to you guys at least at least 1 more time. If not twice. Excellent. Thank you. Somebody else's turn. We've had a few questions coming in through the chat as well. I see. At least 3. Yes. So, let's just go through the chat. You said the sidewalks will be done. Does I mean, of course, my moving to our yards. No, the sidewalks. Some of the sidewalks are buckling. And they don't meet actually when we were doing our constructability walk through. A lady came on a wheelchair and had to navigate a section of the sidewalk that was had buckle and raise and. It was a trip hazard. So, we will be reconstructing this sidewalks where they are. And the curves will not moving to your yards actually with the geometry of the roundabout the curves will be. Actually, moving away from the yards in some areas. So, like Derek said, we will not need to get additional right away for the project. And the public right away is from the back of the curb to about 10 feet into. A person's yard. So there's a space that is called the parkway, which is the public right away. So we will not be. Acquiring any additional right away or. You know, making that space smaller. It says. We will lose any of our trees. So we walk when we walk the site. We identify a couple of. I will say, maybe crit models or, or, or some of those bushes that are kind of like on the. By, by that, that it's like a, I don't know if it's a home. It looks like. Maybe like a, like an apartment manager office or of some area that a couple of those for site distance will have to be removed, but not major trees, not a big trees in front of the residence. Pedestrian currently what diagonal across the intersection from the apartment complex. As a roundabout with the cars, no stats, will there be a signage or something to discourage people from. So the, so the advantage of the, the, the, the runabout is that there's traffic only moving in 1 direction all the way across around about the traffic is 1 way. Okay, so he's always moving in the same direction. So the petition has a lot less cars to worry about. And then with the refuge islands, you know, they get a chance to cross, you know, 1 side of the intersection at a time. What we find is that with, with the, with the, with the circulatory movement and the slower speeds. The drivers have more time to actually watch for the pedestrians and yield to the pedestrians. There will be signs. There will be pedestrian signs. And then if there's an issue, we can certainly add additional warning devices if there's a problem. But originally or initially will install all the warning pedestrian signs, the crossing signs, the advanced warning signs. There'll be also warning signs with the advisory speeds of, I think it's 15 miles an hour or 15. I think it's right about 15 miles an hour ahead. And that, and with the slowest speeds, everybody's more aware of what's happening at the intersection. So it gives, it gives a better order and it allows for the pedestrians also to not have to look for cars in so many directions. So we have about 25 roundabouts in the ground. And we just did a study, a safety study of all of them and could not find 1, 1 accident in the last 2 years that involved a pedestrian. So our experience so far has been that no pedestrians have been struck at 1 of our roundabouts at this time. We're allowed to park on the street with that change. There will not be, you will not be able to park within the circulatory roadway itself. So you could park after that point, but in the circulatory roadway, I don't believe that that you will be able to park on the street. I have a circle drive that has a center tree in the middle. Yes, we're not touching your, your Cedar tree. And, and we have, we have more detailed plans that we're more than welcome to made available to you. So you can actually see. The geometry, you know, Derek had an exhibit, but we have more detailed plans that show exactly, you know, where the curves and how the intersection is laid out in relation to your yard. So we can make that available if you guys would like to see that. That's all I see in the chat. I guess, can I ask your question? Absolutely. I fully support the roundabout. I think this is a great location to clean up this very weird intersection that was modified a number of years ago. My only concern is Choctaw Trail. That's one of the collector streets that goes into the Western Hills neighborhood. And it appears that you're cutting off access from South Canada and Las Vegas Trail. And, you know, to Choctaw both in and out. I think that the, the hooded left is nice for the gas station, but I really think that a hooded left would be more important to the neighborhood. Yes, so I believe that. I believe that we evaluated that and maybe Derek has a little bit more detailed information about that. Because I don't know the specifics of the access for the street. So many to the roundabout, but it appears that the southern. Medium south of the roundabout would actually have room for a left turn lane to allow some stacking to go into the neighborhood on Choctaw. Yes, so that was a request by the transportation management. So city staff within TPW requested to. To only put this as you can see this left turn hooded or this left hooded. And I think it's because it's, it's near this intersection, this, this, this opening right here is near the intersection. And I think they wanted to improve. This J, are you online or. Yeah, yeah, Derek, I'm here. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, good you. Yeah, can you share some light on on the reason on reasoning on this left turn on this left. Yeah, certainly. So this was a conversation that was had with the city's traffic management group. And by the way, my name is Javan, I'm a consultant working on behalf of. GEI, who are the prime consultants on this project working on with the city. Yeah, early on the project we looked at a series of alternatives related to the that Choctaw trail. Some of the considerations where it does have some access points out of that same neighborhood along Las Vegas trail to the north and the south. And then ultimately, I think, Derek, like you were saying, it had to do mainly with the proximity of the intersection to Choctaw trail itself. I believe the decision was made that there wasn't quite enough space from the intersection from the roundabout to Choctaw trail to keep that as a full access. Meeting opening like it is today since Las Vegas trails more of a continuous more north south roadway currently how it exists today. So that was I believe the decision was made then to really only allow that hooded left turn for the northbound movement into the gas station side. At that point. And I believe to now now I'm getting a little bit more memory. My memory is coming back. I believe is because with the distance that is required to provide your deceleration lane and your storage lane from the roundabout going downstream. I think that now in the we have a new access management policy that was adopted by city council last year. And and so I believe that that that's a minimum of like. 500 to 800 feet or something like that. So, I think that's why we just didn't have enough distance, you know, from the roundabout to the right way to provide and meet those. Those requirements for the left turn storage lanes and the median openings, but we can certainly provide that that those details to you. So, you know, what that that came from. And then the. You know, sometimes we try to maintain access at all possible. You know, we're reconfiguring, you know, projects, but we also are trying to take into account safety and we don't want traffic to be stacking into the roundabout because then it will. It will kill the circulation in the roundabout and. That's not good so. But yeah, we certainly can provide you the details about. That and and have more information provided. Thank you, Jay. I didn't know you were on the line. Yeah, sure thing. And if I can go back maybe and your 1st question that you had tonight there that we have conducted some research this year nationwide in July of 2020 related to 1st responders at roundabouts. We're actually presenting those results next week on Thursday during the federal highway administration's national roundabout week. And an interesting thing that we received and the feedback from from that national research project was that a majority of 1st responders said they actually prefer roundabouts over traffic signals and stop controlled intersections. And there's really a variety of reasons. One of them was that it does slow vehicle speed and make the intersection safer. But also when you think about a traditional traffic signal, you tend to get that that queuing where vehicles are stopped at a red light and the fire truck drivers trying to weave their way through. You know, all those vehicles that are stopped at a red light every once in a while to get a signalized intersection. And then once they're in the intersection, they have to worry about those vehicles that are traveling perpendicular to them. Say it's 3540 45 mile power speeds or higher. And that brings a lot of stress on those truck drivers, those fire truck drivers not knowing during a code 3 response. If the people are going to actually stop that are going the the opposite direction of them or perpendicular to them. And there's other reasons too, but we'll be publishing those results later later next month. So the public will be able to see those as well. But yeah, that is some some current research that was just conducted this year. Excellent. Thank you for that. Has the artist been selected for the public art? So the public art component, it's actually managed by the public, the public arts council. And I believe that that they identify. Public art is like 2% of whatever the cost of the project is. And so they manage, you know, they're managing that project separate from ours. They're just trying to coordinate with our schedule and we're trying to also make sure that that if we need to provide, you know, certain things. So whenever they come with their art, you know, if they want to let their art and things like that that we're providing like power sources and stuff like that. So whenever they come, it is an easy transition for them to install their art. They're in the very early stages of selecting an artist. So I think that we met with them the week before last, I think. So they're in the very early planning stages of the public art component and I'm sure that they're also are going to be having public meetings as well. Maybe they need to install a 360 degree camera and that art. You know, we can, we can all just hope. Okay, I don't see additional questions on the on the chat. You guys having great. Thank you so much for spending some of your evening with us. We do have three people who have called in so they won't have access to the chat. So I'm going to unmute them. Okay. In case they would like to ask a question. I'm going to do it one at a time. So we're just going to work my way down the list. So if your phone number ends in 04, I'm going to unmute you. If you have any questions, you feel free to ask. I don't hear anything. I'm going to go down to your phone number ends in five to your unmuted now. Yes, I was just wondering how the traffic would be handled during this construction. You know, that's the main third affair to get from over to the pharmacies and all that. I have a very good question. So we have not finalized the traffic control plan yet, but the roundabout gets built in stages. So it gets built in sections, you know, we try to do like a quarters at a time. So to maintain, you know, traffic, you know, flow during the construction. So because there's schools nearby, we will have a restriction, you know, during the morning peak and then, you know, by before dismissal. You know, the contractor will have like restricted hours to work and then we will notify, you know, emergency vehicles, police and fire, et cetera. And the residents, like with message boards, if we're going to have like intermittent lane closures. So sometimes we might have to close, you know, certain lanes for a small amount of time or a short amount of time. Or for a phase, but we won't be shutting the intersection completely. So we will sometimes that requires that we construct or add additional temporary pavement. So we can make sure that we maintain that two way, you know, traffic, you know, through the intersection, but which makes it a little bit more costly and takes a little bit longer to build. But we will be communicating with the residents and with all the agencies on the project. And we will be using message boards, electronic message boards on Las Vegas trail and Normandale to make sure that everybody's aware at least seven days in advance of the traffic changes. They're really probably getting our driveways. We have to maintain access to your property at all times. So we'll have to we'll have to coordinate that sometimes. You know, we can if we can do half of the drive at a time, we can if we have to, you know, work with the property owner and do and do highly strength concrete that can be poor and open, you know, within a day. You know, we'll have we'll have some techniques and and some strategies, but we have to maintain access to your property. We can just walk you out of your property. Thanks. So we will not be doing that. Okay, there's there's one more caller. I'm going to unmute if you're call if your phone number ends in eight seven, I'm going to unmute you as well in case you have any question. I don't hear them. I don't hear anything. I think we're okay. I think that we cover all the questions in the chat. Oh, there's a comment. Thank you for the presentation. I thought about using this intersection because it's such a mess. I think I want to have a much better idea than intersection with traffic lights. Thank you so much. We don't we don't get comments like that ever. Right. Yeah. And there's another comment by Tina Shaw. She was asking about the schedule. Yes. The construction, the construction start schedule. It didn't winter 2020. We're there. 20 or 21. 2021. We are. Yes, so. Yeah, we're about a year away because we're at 60% with design. And then it's a good thing that we don't have to acquire right away because that's one of the longer lead things that that drags our schedules. But we have to do utility. We have some utilities that will have to be relocated. And so we just began that process of coordinating with all the utilities to identify and then they'll have to design the relocation and I'll have to. Do their construction to relocate the utilities, et cetera, for us to be able to get to begin construction. So those activities. They're the longest lead time, the utility coordination and the right away acquisition. So. We probably will be getting to final design. You know, sometime, you know, lay spring early summer, but then depending on that utility component. You know, it takes, it takes a month to advertise and then it takes several months to award a construction contract and we have to have a couple of more public meetings. To let the public know the progress and before construction. So. I know it seems like a long time, but this, this year has gone by so fast. I'm sure that before we know it will blink and it'll be September next year. We really do appreciate you. Welcome. We were very proud of this project. And I think that it's going to be a huge improvement because it's going to, as you guys are aware. There's, there's a lot of not very. Good activity open down Las Vegas sometimes and, you know, nobody's going to be able to try to get away from doing something they're not supposed to, you know. At 50 miles an hour low upon that Las Vegas, everybody's going to slow them down. So it's going to be very good. I think for the neighborhood and with the public art component, especially if it's lit. It's going to be like a really good way to showcase the neighborhood. Something positive for the neighborhood. So I think it's going to be a good, good project. Any other questions, comments. Derek, Derek posted his information. So he's both his email and his phone. And he's, he's available to talk to you guys or respond to your emails or any time we're working remotely, but we're working like we're working in our building. So you can always reach out to him and we'll provide you. He can, if you email him, he can provide you with a specific detail of the plans that shows that your yards and your trees are not getting impacted. His information is also on the mailer that was sent out. So if, if you're on the phone and can't see the screen, if you got the mailer about the meeting, his, his email and phone number is also on that. Thank you, Jeff. What? Okay. I got one more question on the chat box. What is the public art concept going to consist of we do not know. Because the, like I mentioned earlier, we met with the public art folks a couple of weeks ago to try to find out if they had an idea. And they still are in the very early planning stages. So the 1st thing that they have to do is that they have to go to the Publix, our council to get the project. Approve for them to hire an artist and then they'll do. You know, they'll do a call for, for, for submissions from different artists and then they'll select an artist. And then once they select the artist, then they'll work with that artist to determine and they will be having public meetings also. Please. That's a separate project from ours, but there will also be reaching out to the community for input and to present the public art concept as well. So, I'm sure that as soon as they return on artists, and they start the, you know, they start actually planning the public art component that you guys are also going to be contacted. And they will come talk to you guys as well. How will this stop course from running into my house. Well, the roundabout geometry, it is, it is constructed with the intent. It's a physical is a physical element. That forces cars to drive at slow speeds. So, where the run about the vehicles are approaching the run about. The geometry, the curvature on the road. It forces them to slow down. I mean, it just, it just the road just actually makes them to slow down. So the entry approach speeds are less than 25 miles an hour, because that's, that's what the geometry is going to do. Now, if someone is, you know, driving under the influence or something and, you know, they're not aware of what they're doing or paying attention or something then that can happen at any intersection. You know, but at the roundabout, you have that, that, that enforcement with the roadway configuration that just forces traffic. To, to slow down when they're entering the intersection. So, I cannot. Like, like I said, we have videos that we have. We have videos that we have shot or some of our roundabouts hearing for word that that show has the traffic, you know, flows and how they navigate the roundabout. And we're more, we're more than welcome to share that, but. What we, Jay, did you want to add additional information about our safety study? And then just to add to what you said to, we also sign the advances of the roundabout for motorists to slow down to 15 miles per hour. Using advanced advisory speed signs. So, along with the geometry of the roadway, we're also alerting motorists to slow their vehicle speed to 15 miles per hour. To safely go through the roundabout itself. But as was mentioned, we did do a safety study in Fort Worth where we gathered data from nine of Fort Worth's multi-lane roundabouts across the city. And the safety numbers or crash data was pulled from the years 2016 to 2018 to three years worth of data. When we got all that information and we analyzed it, and then we compared the safety data in Fort Worth to what we have as far as national crash models for roundabouts. And the results came out where Fort Worth's multi-lane roundabouts are actually operating about 20% safer than the national average for similar types of roundabouts throughout the country. Currently, we're over 7,000 roundabouts that have been built in the United States in the last 25 years, just to kind of get perspective. So, nine of the 7,000 you could say we're studied here locally in Fort Worth and then compared back to national averages for safety. And I heard Lucette mention before, but I'll reiterate for some folks that might not have been on the call initially is that we didn't have a single pedestrian fatality or serious injury or really any reported crash at any of the roundabouts. So, nine roundabouts over a three-year span. So, essentially 27 years of roundabout data, there were no reported crashes with pedestrians involved, which was a very positive sign as well. I have a question. If we have a neighbor that decides they're interested in this, is this a recording so that they could actually view it or listen to it? Yes. Yes, the meeting is being recorded and Jeff can go into the details on that. I have another question on the chat box. How will this roundabout comparing size to the one in Clear Fork? I don't know the size. Clear for Jay, did you remember the size of the one on Clear Fork? That's one of the very early ones that was built. It's a two-lane roundabout. Yeah, it's the larger. Yeah, this diameter I guess just to give a little bit of perspective on the size is right about 140 feet in diameter. And so I think the question is probably the Clear Fork main over there. Just I guess probably east, southeast of the project where it would be over south of I-30. If memory serves me right, that is a, I guess what we call a two-by-one roundabout more or less, two-lane circulating in the intersection. That size is right around 170 feet in diameter at Clear Fork main. So this diameter of this roundabout will actually be about 30 feet less than the roundabout over there at Clear Fork. But this does have a two-lane free ride going north on Las Vegas Trail. It's got, I believe, two-lane on the southbound, but one, I believe we're circulating only one around the roundabout, right Jay? Yeah, that is correct. As a northbound motorist approaches the roundabout on Las Vegas Trail, they will actually use that bypass lane to keep going on Las Vegas Trail. And then the other lane will go into the roundabout for those folks that are trying to make a U-turn, a left turn, or a through movement. The through movement continue in northwest on North Normandale Street. But that is correct. There is a single lane. That's what we call a free flow movement. So essentially the people that want to stay on Las Vegas Trail and head north will make that movement in that lane. It's really outside. Thanks, Jay. Will I lose the grass area where the flags are now? Okay, so the flags that you see now is because we're doing a service utility exploration. So basically we're just trying to locate what the utilities are. And so you shouldn't lose your grass. And anything that we just start with the project, grass or we'll restore to the same condition that it was before or better. But I believe that the flags that are there now is just my consultant trying to gather some service utility engineering data on the utilities. Can you put the picture up again, Derek? It's there. Oh, awesome. I was looking at the chat box and didn't realize that the picture was back. Sorry about that. So this one is an exhibit, which doesn't really like give you like a lot of detail, but we actually have a plan layout. I wish that was easily handy, but we can certainly provide that as well. To answer the question about the recording. Yes, it's we are. It is recording. I haven't stopped it yet. It will eventually go up on our city's YouTube page. And when we have a project page for this on our website, it will be available there as well. The project does not currently have one because we're we're in the middle of updating our website. And it's going to be another couple of weeks before I can get another project placed. But it will be there eventually as well. Another question on the chat box. I live on North Normando Street and the city said that we're installing networks on the street. Do you know if that's still going to happen? We can certainly follow up with our either with our neighborhood groups or with the safety group and see and get and follow up, you know, get some information about that. Any more questions? Mr. White. You have anything you want to add? You want to add anything else you want to add? I think that's it until next time. Right before we go to construction. Okay. Okay. Well, if that's all we have, we want to thank you again for your time today. Please don't hesitate to reach out to us. To Derek and Derek, I'm always available also so and we can provide as much information as you guys need to answer all your questions. So with all with that, you know, I'm ready to close Jeff.