 Oh, no, you can leave it. I've hidden it. So it's fine I'll turn you back on you'll see yourself, but I'll turn you back on when it comes All right, ready Scott. Yep. I'm all set. Here we go I've decided to show my support for the Daily Tech news show. Well, how could this have been done simple All I did was go to patreon.com slash ace detect and pledge a dollar a month Hey, it's only a dollar for some awesome content value for value, right? Go ahead and take it away, Tom This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday, June 3rd 2015 I'm Tom Merritt joining me as he does most Wednesdays. Mr. Scott Johnson founder of the frog pants network The morning stream and more. How you doing Scott? I'm doing really well Thank you so much. It's Wednesday is quickly becoming at least my most technical day. If not my favorite We've got a really good show today because we're gonna be talking about something called named data networking And we've asked dr. Alicia Zhang a professor of computer science at UCLA to join us after the headlines and and explain this to us it is a Project that I think it has the potential to solve a lot of problems with the way the internet is used a way The internet is operated and we'll get to that in a moment, but let's start with some headlines The Electronic Privacy Information Center honored Apple CEO Tim Cook at an event Monday Cook gave a speech in a half TechCrunch reports Cook said Apple rejects the idea that quote customers should have to make trade-offs between privacy and security He said morality demands it He took a swipe at companies that are gobbling up everything they can learn about you and trying to monetize it saying quote We think that's wrong, but he saved the strongest rhetoric for the US government Saying weakening encryption or taking it away harms good people that are using it for the right reasons and ultimately I believe it has a chilling effect on our First Amendment rights and undermines our country's founding principles even quoted Abraham Lincoln Saying America will never be destroyed from the outside if we falter and lose our freedoms It will be because we destroyed them ourselves A lot of people are focused and Scott mostly on the Facebook and Google Swipe at the beginning of this, but I think the strongest part of this speech was his call that Encryption is a right. Yeah, it's also intense I'm not sure everyone expected a you know event like this This is sort of set up to honor him and others for him to get up and give this impassioned kind of kind of speech about things I think are really important to a lot of people right now. So pretty good stuff I really enjoyed reading the whole thing Venture beat reports that fixed or Skype has fixed which is great a flaw that crashes Skype when you receive the characters HPP colon slash slash colon don't try right now folks. You may still be Having an issue in fact once you got to that message skype crashed any time you tried to sign in the bug appeared on windows Android and iOS but apparently not Skype for the Mac or for the windows tied interface or tiled interface rather in less than 24 Hours though Skype fix the bug so make sure head ahead to Skype comm slash download and Your mobile phone app store get that thing updated right now. You do not want to be crashed by Skype now I'm glad they fixed it fast though. I was very impressed by that TechCrunch reports Cisco and IBM have both acquired OpenStack companies OpenStack is an open source project that enables users to create their own cloud services often used in what is called the private cloud That's where you have cloud services, but they're only available inside your enterprise Cisco announced it has purchased private cloud company piston cloud computing and IBM has acquired a private cloud service provider Blue box now a lot of open source folks are feeling like open stack is now in the hands of the corporations and They're a little if not upset sentimental about that Recode reports Apple's beats has voluntarily recalled the beats pill XL speakers can have a pair of these at one point Briefly after eight reports of overheating beats have sold more than 200,000 of the speakers since November of 2013 Speakers can be identified by a lowercase b on the speaker drill and the words beats pill XL on the handle Apple's urging people to go to apple.com slash support slash beats XL dash recall For details and how to return those things and get your three hundred and twenty five dollars back expensive Yeah, and just a straight-on recall. We're gonna give you money I mean they'll offer you store credit too because they would rather have you just give the money right back to them But yeah, that's that's a bad one now. It's not like it's catching on fire anything. I guess they burned somebody's finger Kind of kind of scarred or charred a desktop, but nothing to mess around with So this is post purchasing of beats, right? So this is before Apple had them and they're they're fixing a problem I think that's yeah Apple's fixing a problem that was created in the manufacturing before Apple owned beats. That's a we blame Dr. Dre PC man. No, we don't we definitely don't take it back in case Dre's list He's not listening PC mag dot cop reports that AMD announced its sixth generation processors codename Carrizzo in a 8 a 10 and FX series models the a 8 and a 10 APU's feature 10 compute cores for CPU cores Plus 6 GPU cores and the FX series APU's feature a total of 12 Compute cores for CPU and for GPU the chips use heterogeneous systems architecture or HSA Does sharing the workload and the system memory between the CPU and the GPU rather than having the CPU do all the directing the a 8 and a 10 Processors get R6 graphics in the FX series R7 Graphics when paired with the discrete graphics card both the R6 or the R7 APU's will work in conjunction with that discrete GPU to boost graphics Performance look for laptops with a series APU's coming up this month. I was gonna say portables laptops You know small fanless Chromebook type Arrangements seem well. This seems like they'll benefit greatly from this stuff. Alright a few more stories before we finish up here news From you comes at our subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com get in there and join folks in voting things up and voting them down Metal Freak sent us this story from Ars Technica at long last Microsoft is bringing SSH aka secure shell to Windows and PowerShell Until now Windows lacked any native SSH client server However, the Windows PowerShell team has announced Microsoft will work with and contribute to open SSH the standard for SSH Implementation to Unix to add that functionality to Windows This will let Unix Linux and Windows machines securely access each other Scott The Linux Windows war is pretty much over now. Where's the parade? Let's go down My near Central Park and rejoice. This is wonderful news. Yeah, I don't think that war is over Star Fury Zeta submitted the engadged article that the US state of Virginia has marked 70 miles of highway in the northern part of The state as quote Virginia automated corridors This allows companies who have received approval for their cars to do public road testing of self-driving cars Google and the like Nokia Here mapped division or sorry mapping division will develop 3d maps for the road tests or for these test roads That's pretty awesome. The fact that you're getting actual governments actual Municipalities Interested in supporting this research because that's going to be huge to ever happening and for roads ever being you know Self-driving at all and more places to test Virginia different parts of the Virginia government providing some support including some insurance So, yeah More places they have the test the better the cars will get we hope cross your fingers Doors Rio submitted the TechCrunch report that augmented reality device magic leap has launched a development platform She creative officer Graham Devine announced it on stage at the MIT technology reviews M tech digital conference a Developer section of the website has been launched where you can sign up for the SDK. You don't get it yet though That's coming soon. They need you to sign some NDAs I think CEO Ronnie Abavitz also said the company is out of the R&D phase So they're transitioning magic leap to be a real product Oh, and they had author Neil Stevenson on stage to help convince you This is in fact the real-world arrival of the metaverse. That's pretty awesome We haven't seen a lot of Neil Stevenson lately It feels like it feels like it's been a while since his big Kickstarter and that whole sword thing and I thought well Where the heck is he and this is right where we need him because this yeah Yeah, he's helping out with magic leap and of course he has a book out seven eaves just came out Which I am eagerly waiting to read but I have to finish the latest at James essay Corey first And that's a look at the headlines All right joining us now very Appreciative to have dr. Alicia Zhang professor of computer science at UCLA Who is working on the named data networking consortium? Thank you for joining us doctor. Oh Hi, yeah, my pleasure So I read an article a couple weeks ago. Maybe a month ago About named data networking. I want you to grade me Help me do a better job at describing it here. Here's here's what I've been telling people right now data is found By location if I want a web page I tell my browser the server It's on and the browser goes and request the data from that server named data networking seems to me to be The idea that requests for things like web pages Name and then the network sort of asks around to see which is the closest machine That has the data I want. So how'd I do is that is that close? It's very close But I think of the real story can be even simpler because like you said when you try to visit a web page the What we what happened today is that? That the URL contains a name the DS name Which first get translated into API drives and then you go to that specific Computer to get the data. So all Ndn is doing is to remove that Transition step Instead you just ask them the system to say here's the content I want and you leave all the freedom To the system. I mean the network to find out where are the nearest copy of that the third content would be Could be cashed somewhere could be produced by the original Server depending on what you're asking But the freedom is a life to the system rather than for your brother To specifically name my IP address to get the data from so your browser has to know less It just needs to know what the name of the data is but why would we need that? You already have it you just to say that you look at the URL that has a long unit so Ndn really to Trying to Get the system actually simpler By cutting off the unnecessary style of translating into addresses Do you also speed up the process of getting the data because you're making the request for the data and because it Doesn't have to go. Let's say to a server in Japan to get it because that's where the file is Sitting on a server that you've had to call through the browser Instead you're saying oh a copy of this an exact copy of this or this exact file is somewhere in Texas It's much closer in a server that's more, you know closer to your network Therefore it's going to pull from the closest one Are we saving bandwidth as well as as well as increasing the speed at which we get our data back You are exactly right. Yes, there's a savings in multiple friends So we leave the freedom like I said to the network to decide and this reduced the complexity and reduced Resource consumption as well as increase the security So how do you increase the security because if I'm understanding it the data could be on a neighboring computer of any kind It seems to me that that that some people might hear that and say well that sounds less secure to me Yes, that can be the impression, but if you look at the final print every piece of name the packet will also carry a signature so the name the data Networking design side-side every piece of data upon the production it will be sealed that is sealed by a signature that bonds the name to its contents and Therefore no third party could possibly modify it without being detected So what if you have two versions of that? Let's call it a file you're talking about packets obviously, but if we're talking about let's say it's an image file a jpeg file And it resides on five different actual physical servers around the world Is the one closest to us is it does it have a way of verifying that this is an exact 100 copy of The file you actually need in other words Is will it be possible for somebody to to mess with that and you end up getting packets from a file that it That don't match the one you're actually looking for Well, as long as the crypto has not failed the signature is reliably binding the name to the data so Like I said, I don't do crypto but as long as the crypto works and that danger is not there That is there's a modified contents without Detection that should not happen you mentioned something earlier, which is what if Say even for the image a file you could do some editing and produce a new image For that in the end has this a very simple idea. That is once data is produced It's never changes. If you make it changes you produce a new version So every single piece of data is immutable So an updated web page would have a new name then essentially As a new version like for example CNN.com front page as a still CNN.com front page But that based on when it is produced The timestamp of the production time would be part of the name so that you can easily Visit say no yesterday's page versus today's page Today actually is not so easy. You can say I want to look at the CNN.com three days ago It's not immediately clear how you request that page But it will make it a very easy and a very clear exactly Which which days of the news we're actually looking Now that's a lot of names to have to keep track of and as I understand it that is one of the challenges is How to efficiently handle a namespace that large how is that? How do you think that is going to be done? Talk about the namespace. We should understand that today's applications are actually all in the namespace This is basically the main name system namespace The top-level names are handled by the icon. There's a well-established name governance system There's an entirely separate issue of you know whether we can do something better than the existing system But a namespace governance is a separate Technical question a political question combined, but that's not the Architecture part of the question. It's exactly the same like today's internet architecture, which is TCP IP paste the data delivery if you look at the architecture defining documentation which is the RFC 791 IP specification that only specifies how the IP packet looks like So therefore all the IP boxes your routers your hosts your smart phones or understand Every packet we received and every packet how they format it to send it So other machines can understand it that the RFC 791 doesn't say a single bit How IP address should be allocated? So that's entirely separate part of the system which is necessary But not part of the architecture. So you can think of in the end is exactly the same thing We define the format of the packet exchanges So therefore all the machines are speaking and being will be able to exchange packets, but namespace governance belongs to a separate system Architecture still seems like some pretty big routing tables might be needed though That's correct. So we have developed a various different approaches to address the routing scalability question so Work is ongoing and we actually explore very different Designs the one way we know exactly how to do is actually to Just a copying what has been done with that IP routing use the similar protocols But the replacing IP prefixes with the name prefixes Like for example today if you want to reach a CNN You just translate CNN.com to actually a set of IP addresses because you have to do load balancing and listen that The we can just announce a CNN out and the Network itself actually can't figure out if the CNN website is replicated the system takes the Responsibility to handle your request by the nearest replica And as a as an end user, this is all this should all be pretty seamless What what are the implications for somebody who's just Surfing the web. What do they see immediate improvement? Do they notice hardly anything at all is this, you know purely just a structural thing that that they go on with their lives and never notice I Think that's the end users. I hope they will see actually improved performance and I hope they will have less like the the fishing attacks and Other issues I think for the end users there should be all the benefits Yeah, if you are encrypting all the things that would make sense to me. Yeah, yeah, so everything is signed therefore, you know, if you want receive the spam message, which you should really shouldn't but that the That the name will not match the key That should be used to sign that website and therefore your browser will not be fooled to visit the fishing site That's interesting. I hadn't considered that so basically you're creating This is the more secure part. I was trying to get my head around as it applies to end users anyway this idea that The data itself is no longer anonymous The the people can be the the creators can be anonymous, but the data can't be anonymous anymore. Can it? Oh It can it can if it's necessary When necessary, you can really create this kind of anonymous publication system Where you know the computer science people keep seeing One level of interaction and can solve all the problems So therefore you could have anonymous publishing system where the real publisher can hide their real identity Well, the contents will be signed by this anonymous publishing System so that the system itself can actually verify the The producers Credentials, but the system will assure that The false contents will not propagate through like you know today There's so much malicious stuff going on in the internet Where very many home users could easily get food We want to just block that by the whole That vulnerability Now obviously there's a lot of businesses that have have built their business on the idea of IP routing and and the Natural advantages that that system might give them in addition It certainly seems like a Herculean task to change the fundamental layers upon which the internet runs What what do you think are the challenges that you need to overcome for name data networking to actually become the way We run the internet Yeah, I hate to say this. I'm really old so therefore I actually went to be witness how IP came out When I walked into graduate school that was exactly the year TCP IP specification came out I remember I walked into MIT my advisor David Clark had me the specifications in that it's a hot-off printer really at that time Very few people knew about this entirely new revolution of the communication systems. How did the TCP IP? Eventually get built out It's only one simple sentence Applications try that meant work revolution in the early days Email was this you know the hot application that everybody wanted the email and that really Provides the driving force for the IP deployment, so I think a fundamentally in the end I Haven't had a chance to explain more details about why? applications would be much easier to develop on top of Indian, but it's really the benefit of For Thursday taking application development. I think that would drive the Indian your lot That we have traffic. We don't have to worry about anything else Yeah, obviously we have so much more that we could talk about related to India And then we have time for today if someone's interested in learning more about it or even developing For it. Where should they go? Oh? Google our website named the Dash data that next where we continuously publish in new stuff. There's all the history of the the project initial Research proposal submitted to NSF back in the year 2010 and our annual reports of the progress Our code base. We're doing this entirely open source development We really are welcome and they really appreciate Everyone who's really interested to come and then join our effort. We're using their standard open source development system So go to our website and all the pointers are there We already had we currently have like about 30 nodes testbed Although the numbers are small that actually cross continents Stretching from Europe to North America to Asia Pacific region connecting up a number of research institutions as well as a few industry lives Who are interested in participating in the Indian research? That's named dash data net dr. John thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us about this is a fascinating thing for me And I know a bunch of people watching in the chat room. We're saying the same thing. They wanted to pass along their thanks as well Oh, thank you very much. Give me an opportunity to spread the word Yeah, my job is to propagate words so more people will know about it. Well, you're doing a good job It was a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you very much. All right. Take care So Scott Before we get on to our pick of the day What what do you think are you? I gotta tell you dude, it's weird. I'm having a weird Moment here where it feels like I don't want to get too much hyperbole around this thing But I feel it feels like reading about this and studying about it over the last week or so and now hearing her talk about it I am more and more convinced that this at the very least is the underpinnings I'm something new later whether it's this exact structure as they've laid it out or Something else will come of this but there's something about this This just feels ground level to me and that's super exciting and I don't feel like there's there's been that many opportunities In the way the internet works to talk about that there's all this talk in the in the 90s of internet to and how what that was going to be and and It's kind of nice to see that just structurally speaking. We're talking about something this Kind of this groundbreaking and it's very exciting. So whatever I'm excited. I still don't totally understand But I'm I'm excited about it. Well, do you understand it more than you did before? Oh, yeah But I'm much more and and and it and then also what the thing I think I'm coming away with here was it's one thing to say Hey, I have a new idea for how the internet should work which is akin to saying hey all that copper wire You guys just laid pull that out because we're gonna put something new in it's a big Change when you propose ideas like that. What's what I like about that But this sounds like is it sounds like it's not going to change too much fundamentally about how we use things Right, you don't have to pull out the copper wire, right? You don't have to you can you can apply this in ways that make sense for everybody from CDNs down to an end user and Make it make it work. And if it's that much more efficient that much more secure That's super exciting. I just I don't know I feel like the internet has become the thing it was and then we've just sort of used it to death and created all the applications in the world and Maybe it's time to actually address what its future is beyond, you know, what it has been for the last 20 years It's very exciting to me. No, I agree with you reading about this and information centric networking Which was Van Jacobson who's working on name data networking his his theorization His famous speech a few years ago that makes me think that if it's not this it's something very like this or something that comes out of this That helps us figure out how to solve I mean, we didn't even get into it, but there are implications on net neutrality that make it less of an issue There's obviously the things about security that we talked about so I Will be following this as well And I know there's folks out there who have the skills to contribute to this and I encourage you to do so named Data.net our pick of the day comes from devalu who calls himself or herself genius from the West Here is another one for you and it's a Chrome extension If you're like me and you use Google Chrome with many extensions each for a different purpose and want to manage them easily Try simple ex team manager features include a basic function to enable and disable access options and uninstall extensions by pop-up Customize the pop-up to work better for you Create extension groups so you don't have the one big long list and enable and disable Extension groups through the pop-up and a right-click menu so you can enable a group all at once and then when you're done with it Disable the whole group. He says it's nothing much But sure saves a lot of time and is way better than the Chrome extensions page Which is a little unwieldy if you have more than a few extensions So check that out. It's called simple ex team manager. Thank you devalu for sending that You could send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show comm and you can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks Mike M Wrote in and said I'm finally getting around episode 24 97 where you talked with Lamar Wilson about how YouTube Would rather you watch videos from the recommended list instead of subscribing to a creator in binge watching They do make it pretty difficult to binge watch a single creator I find myself manually adding videos to the watch list later than moving them from there into a new playlist When playing that playlist after enough of that every day because I watch a lot of YouTube He says I decided to write a little script that does all that for me You can specify a user and it will automatically add any new videos as they're released to the end of the Associated playlist in your account if there's anyone in your audience who would benefit from this have them send me an email And I'll get them set up. We'll have the email in the show notes, but it's Mike M M-I-K-E-M dot exe plus yt edgymail.com It reminds me of podcasting except for YouTube. Yeah a little bit I mean, I obviously this is gonna benefit people in front of computer screens not so much mobile users not so much People who can't run that kind of scripting on Roku's and things like that But but man, this is a huge boon for something that is kind of quite frankly a big pain in the butt when you want to watch Somebody's channel, so this is great David says hello from hot and rainy, Florida The new Broadwell CPUs are an interesting shift for Intel David writes they are for the most part uninteresting for workstations in high-end gaming the CPU performance is lower than the current has well CPUs because they run Lower clock speed for other users though They are very important because they offer very good graphics performance and much better open cl performance than the has well CPUs as more programs make use of open cl I expect to see more computing power shifting to the GPU and Open cl from your traditional CPU of course when Silver Lake comes out and we get a dye shrink the clock speed should shoot back up But yeah, I think I think he makes a great point here Which is this round of has well is less about here's the most powerful thing and more about mobile Intel would like you to say But I think David's pointing out it just brings some more power to the middle to where you don't have to be spending on the top level thing Well, we are heading into this science fiction place that I I think is a good thing where the middle is where we're going to be On the daily basis. That's where we're all going to find kind of function We don't need to be concerned so much with well This isn't enough power to run what I have well, just have things that run things we want and This just feels like steps toward that Utopian ideal well, and it does jive with what AMD announced today to where they're saying hey, we're gonna have Basically the our APU which is G GPU and CPU on one You know in one area Working together on we're not gonna make the CPU handle everything and then assign it off to graphics processing Yeah, and I think you even said before and I have agreed that you know We're gonna get to a place where like vinyl records for people who love to collect those things people are gonna want high-end work Stations for certain very specific tasks We are going to get to a place where the middle ground is the every ground and it's going to involve Whatever the interfaces are be them tablets or something we can't think of right now or kiosks in public or whatever They are they're gonna need to be in a place where it doesn't feel like junk But they don't have to be these screaming machines that are meant for something else and and I'm I think I'm okay with that I used to not be okay with that, but I'm okay with it now Thank you for the email David and thanks to everybody who sends us emails feedback at daily tech news show.com You guys are great We always get more than than we really can fit in any particular show So we try to read a good selection or representative sample of them But great insights from folks and I love that we have such a diverse amount of expertise in the audience as well And thank you Scott Johnson. That was really fun. I'm glad we did that. I am too. What a what an awesome guest and I just I could do this every time because I love hearing about things that we just don't know about yet or things that kind of Changed her with the way we think about the technology around us and she was just awesome. So, yeah So follow Scott twitter.com slash Scott Johnson head over to frog pants calm You can find more than just the Daily Tech News show there I don't think anyone thinks of it that way frankly, but yeah, there's all kinds of great shows if you have it exported for some reason Go check it out What's what's happened in these days that you want to let people know about well I'm excited about a thing that I may as well just slip here I don't know if you're familiar with the artist who works a lot on DC comic books by the name of Howard Porter Or Jerry Conway a the gentleman responsible for the death of Gwen Stacy in the comic books and I do know Jerry Conway Yes, he created the Punisher all kinds of characters, you know in love man thing I could keep going firestorm Those two and I have something in common that is we're all gonna be working on a big Almost 14 year 15 year compilation of my comic strip at my extra life calm. We're gonna finally make a book We're getting it forward from Jerry We're getting the cover from Howard and it's already amazing and you guys should see it You're gonna die we're gonna run a Kickstarter And I know people a lot of people out there are excited about my artwork are excited about the idea of collecting it all in one place So finally after years and years of requests That's happening so to keep track of that and how that's going keep track of frog pants comm or my Twitter account at Scott Johnson and They'll be soon like we're talking the comic that birthed an empire. Well, it sort of did I mean a lot was my first foray into saying I wonder if I could do stuff online and It turned into so much more, but I'm so proud of that I'm I'm so happy to take what I think are the definitive comics during that period put them all in one big place and hopefully warm Somebody's coffee table somewhere so I watch for that at Scott's on Twitter. 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We'll be back tomorrow with Justin Robert young talk to you then The show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants comm Club hopes you have enjoyed this program Right good show everybody what should we call this I think we should call this the show that Roger did a ton of hard work and created an Also, I have a bunch of titles Well done Roger. Yeah, really gosh Came through yeah, gosh it just worked It was great So would you like to hear some titles cuz the chat room responded to an excellent episode by coming up with some truly Bodacious titles. Oh, all right. All right. So in the lead from bio cow We have all about that name about that name no server Then throwback we have TV Z gone you down with N. D. N. Yeah, T. C. P. I P Oh, and then we get Shakespeare from Zelladier, which is what SSH through yonder window And then in the threes we have bio cows the torrent is agent of the internet Dark redeemer data by any other name. I mean more Shakespeare And then let's see IP addresses are so 2014. Oh And a personal favorite of mine from dark redeemer what's he's got it is packets No, this is some hot titles. Let me tell you good luck. I could name that documented zero IP addresses That's pretty awesome A data by any other name. All right, here's a lot What SSH through yonder windows breaks is so good, but I really really want to name it after NDM because we have so many good NDN ones Yeah, I feel bad for Zelladier though because that is No, I'm gonna put them in the show notes after roger does them because Uh titles I cannot go unheralded No, it'd be a crime really it'd be a crime. Absolutely. I don't cry but not a word cry So wait what so if we do go NDN, which one should we go with? All about that name Yeah, or just because it says NDN you down with NDN, but uh I just love all about that name about that name. No servers with it with that one. Yeah, you down with NDN It should be no tcp IP. Yeah So that's hard and we've definitely done the down with Yeah I think it's the megan trainer reference I really do It's the winner. It's also the winner on showbot. I mean if you disagree showbot.tv right now Yeah, I'm still levelating Yeah That was a great show That's your version of the qvc countdown clock I also have another 10 minutes to sell you this watch Make your choice now Oh the leveling is done. Let's see who wins Oh my gosh too good So radger who you got on tap for tomorrow? For my next trick I will get you the president of the united states of america. Yeah, it's a kid president obama the hardest one ever had to do was uh Was the navy I was trying to get someone for the navy because I was that for the uh when you did the air the airplanes No, this one was for um someone asked like can I I wanted to give my son a laptop before he shift off with the submarine fleet and uh, I want to know if you can use it And so I had to go through four and a half layers of Pentagon bureaucracy before I actually got someone and pat com in uh, hawaii On the left side Sorry, go ahead, but there's a military booking which is they don't play games No, they don't they don't play morning news games They show up when they say they're going to show up the people show up on time and they do a great job So it's like You know everybody else in the world plays booking games like well, I'm on today's show. I'm on gma. I'm on this I'm on that nope the u.s. Military. They just show up Yeah, oh, they have a whole office dedicated to that Like there's a goal for yourself. Oh bio cow just put another one in the chat room you down with n dn No more ip Oh, it's not bad It's punny as hell. Yeah, what's the pun? You down with opp. Yeah, you know Yeah Every last hole me Sorry It happens because there is a part of me and I've been trying to keep that part of me silent That's saying well, it's not actually that there are no servers. You still have servers in an n dn implementation They're just aren't as uh necessary I think that part of that part of you cracks me up Well, they're they're it's it's become it's interesting. It's interesting left. It comes more I had more transparent but less Um relevant to you as the end user I think I might want to go with you down with n dn. No more ip It's really good It's really good. You could talk me out of it I can't do it. Nope. Okay. No, I'll put all the other Yeah, I'll put all the other ones in the show notes at some point because they're that good Oh, what ssh three yonder windows dad is genius That's gonna be echoing around in my head for the next day I'm a sucker for a good protocol joke and we had lots of them today. She's getting protocol droid It's an app for your phone Do you speak bachi? No, but I So, no, he speaks bachi was like, no, I need someone that understands the language of Moisture evaporators and I was saying it's like it's just a machine. Why do you need to really kind of first job? Was programming binary load lifters It's quite similar to your oh, I forget I almost had it to your evaporators and most respects Except that the return command is actually run to You I mean even no more ip is not true because you can use ip on the ethernet level level of the stack. It just shifts down That quiet's a room. Yeah That's your set on stage That's folks. I'll be here all week We should do that. That should be a sketch at nardacular. Yeah, that'd be all right like just like somebody who gets up and They're not even jokes. Yeah, they're just like statements really like super geeky statements Yeah, like hey tom maryl on the stage is good to practice the standard routine tom taking away everyone to clap for anything You just get up there and go uh Ram so I had a friend who said they were going to email me. Um, you're firming a noun You send an email. You don't actually email. There's no protocol called email And then we'll have them going to go behind you And there'll be nothing no one will hear a thing There'd be not a peep in there and then people will laugh though. I'd tell you a udp joke, but I'm afraid you wouldn't get it Yeah, I have to do a some kind of opener before the band on uh friday. Maybe I'll do That's pretty fun. You want to tag team? Yeah, we can totally have some fun with that We should be about that. Are you up for something like that? Totally. Yeah, we'll think a small We'll put her heads together dude. I put myself in a blanket I probably didn't even need to ask. Yeah, yes last year. So I when I saw that I was like What have I gotten myself? And here she is still with us. It's amazing. Yeah Oh, that's funny Oh Good times. I am off to go get my kid from his last day at school. Oh, wow So next summer break. Yeah, summer break starts today. Not really Tomorrow's uh, my daughter's graduation Oh, yeah, I loved the uh, the announcement that was so good. Oh, thanks. Yeah, we're uh, my oldest daughter took the pictures and did a really good job Um, anyway, yeah, I'm gonna go down there. We're gonna they're doing it where the jazz plays So we're at the the e-center or the e-solution center where the hell it's called So big mba thing for this giant You're gonna bring noisemakers and Yeah, I was thinking about the of vuvuzela's or another zealous. Yeah, there you go Just through the entire thing I can go home I'd be really obnoxious. Yeah My daughter would tell me Um, hey scott. I put something atrociously ridiculous in the story pool. Oh, did you know it's just Beyond it's not even really usable, but it's it's just there. You'll see it. You'll know Yeah, I'm just saying That's a tease to listen to the morning stream of fiber I know you may not it may not work, but uh, I Tune in and find out will scott use the too hot for podcasting link provided by jenny josephson There's only one way to know Uh, let's see. Hold on It's the one with the giant block of text next to to the right of Oh Chinese restaurant one. Yeah, but don't Just look to the right of it Get on one That's a reaction. Okay It's it's sort of a challenge to you, but I don't know It's sort of like the greatest challenge of all time, but I don't know if it's good. I don't know It's there use this. This is pretty funny. Yeah, you're under no obligation, but it just happened I don't know what happened. It's jetty's story selection version of Come here That is not too far from the truth. All right. Oh my goodness. All right. Anyway, awesome. Nice work Um, all right, uh, go pick up your kid I'll talk to you guys later. All right. Thanks god. Talk to you soon. See you. Thank you very much Um, I do have a question for you either one of you. So when you guys record the audio you you're getting You're getting levels on it and they're they're not clipping on your end Oh, yeah, yeah That's true Oh, is that a yes or no? I mean the question Oh, no, I think when you guys record the audio for the show, you're making sure that the audio isn't clipping on Oh, yeah on on the feed Because I know what the level later does because when I'm when I was working with the show you last night I noticed that um Uh, Patrick's audio was a little clippy. Okay. It was we made him turn it up too So we made it. We may have made him turn it up too far Yeah, the problem is I don't have a good and maybe Roger, you know one I don't actually have a good live level checker The only ones I've ever used were um video editors, but there there has to be Basically, I always cheat it and I always drop it from wherever it's at by minus six Just to give an headroom. So and it's not because the the media or the The media and audio will be like minus twelve or whatever. It's because sometimes people will cough or do something I'll spike it and that just gets it. I can always kind of amp it up and post I mean he you can hear him, but it's it's it's noticeably kind of um Um a little distorted on on his well, you know the distortion may not have been clipping because we were having We were trying to get rid of a little bit of of line noise That wasn't vol it wasn't gain or volume related It was just uh and we had him We had him turn down a little bit and then we had him unplug and re-plug So I don't know it may have just been It may have been his His setup because he's on the road and he was in his I guess his in-laws house on on a dsl On a lower bandwidth dsl connection The beja mobile. Yeah That was just it's on my nose yesterday Yeah, it's hard to know because we it's always like you're adjusting the levels for agr based on what the chat room is saying and then It sounds weirder on you too. It's like there's a lot of we need we need ourselves a proper video editor Hmm, how would we get one of those Jenny? I don't know. It's a goal Yeah, it's a goal. We all have goals And ours is twenty thousand dollars Doesn't uh wire you use wirecast right to grab the audio or is you using I'm just trying to think is I'm trying to oh audio hijack that doesn't have a Not a vu meter but an actual db fs meter It might You know, it doesn't really it doesn't have a good enough one It like it doesn't show you spikes. I don't think There are a whole found it. There's a vu meter uh thing here That you can put in let me try recording something Yeah, um, okay Now Where do I see it? Yeah, that was my issue. Oh What when you talked the meters Oh, it's only from incoming audio because I only have it on the end. No, hold on. I put it in the wrong place That's why there we go. So yeah, they're not very good. They're not even graded And then it has menu bar meters that you can put in No, but no db. Yeah And it's it's one of those things that uh That um, I've not on your show, but uh, I've noticed on some other shows that um Like a be it not a vu db meter would help Yeah, for sure But the the good thing about it for you guys is you all have really good mics And so that is less of an issue. It's generally, you know, if you use a cheaper mic for A lot of or something they tend to blow out Well I uh, I don't know about you guys, but I think that show was a success. It was a great show. I liked it Not just because it was another first Asian person I've seen on the show in a while Well, you don't watch your own shows, I guess. Well, that's just like looking in a mirror Some of narcissistic incredibly big My white jano is nags me when I'm looking at myself in the mirror and it's like I'm brushing my teeth Yeah, if you're brushing your teeth, that's one thing if you're just looking fondly at yourself It's also because I also tell her to feel my biceps is feel thinking bigger Uh, well, I think our work here is done Cool. Yeah So, jenny, are you doing the video or am I doing the video? Well, let's We'll hold hold that thought roger that thought stay tuned folks for coverville Coming up on most of these frog pants networks immediately following uncovered village dedicated to naturist netcasting