 And so we got through the challenge for the 12th Wiki Tree Challenge of 2022 and of course our guest star was Hugo award-winning fantasy and science fiction author Lois McMaster B. Jold. And I know we definitely had some fans in the crowd that were going back and forth between reading books and doing some research. Good for them. Yeah, and I'm sure you're ready to see what we found now. One person you were interested in knowing more about was your paternal grandmother, and that was Pearl Margaret Beaver McMaster. Yeah, about whom I heard nothing in my childhood because she died in like 1916 or 18. Yeah, really young. She married Charles Royal McMaster, I love his name, and he did go by Royal, not Charles. So she had first appeared in a census in 1900. She was about 15. She was attending school in South Huntington, Pennsylvania. Her father, 39, worked as a stone cutter and paid a mortgage on their home. Her mother was also 39, took care of the home and family. She had bore 10 children, but only five were living. So, you know, that has just had to have been tragic for her mother. Oh, yeah. The death, the kids death information on 19th century and earlier by genealogy stuff is just heartbreaking. Yeah, it really is. And it was so much more common then. Her siblings, John, Howard, Clarence and Helen were in the home. Now the following year when she was just 16, her father died of grip, which is a flu like symptoms. You know, and that was what they called it a lot of times when people died of the flu and they really didn't know what else to say about it. And so Pearl and three of her siblings took jobs to pay the bills. She worked as a sales lady, John and Howard worked as contractors and 15 year old Clarence apprenticed as a painter after school. She was only her sister Helen 13 at the time attended school and didn't hold a job. They'd also taken in a border as stenographer named Wallace. And there's actually no house that remains. This is the lot on the left there that Pearl had lived in with her parents and the home is no longer there. So not only was she not around to make memories, you know, and tell her story and her father's story who died young. The house that used to be there is not there anymore. Now at the, at the age of 27, of course, we said she married Charles Royal McMaster. They lived in West Newton, Pennsylvania, where he worked as a shipping clerk for the electrical company. Okay. Later. Yeah, he worked at Westinghouse for a long time. Robert was born a year later just two days after their first wedding anniversary. Okay. And then they were blessed with a daughter two years later. So of course here we have Robert Charles McMaster certificate of birth and we have the application for that marriage license. Okay. Yeah, they actually did a pretty nice job, you know, gathering a lot of information from it. Now, of course, there wasn't a whole lot else to find on her. She died at the age of 30 from an infection she gained after childbirth. So just, yeah, just 16 days after her daughter was born. Her brother in law, Arthur McMaster and his wife, Matilda took Pearl in. And then a little six year old Robert moved in with his mother. So royal took Robert with him, but you know, it's understandable that a female baby, you know, especially an infant, he would give to somebody that has a woman in the home. Yeah, take care of them. Excuse me. The children are reunited reunited finally by 1930. So they were both living with their father and their grandmother in Wilkinsburg by 1930. Okay. Now, again, the name of the person who took a full in. That would be Arthur McMaster and his wife Matilda. And I knew Arthur's name, but I'd never heard Matilda. That's a new one. And that's pretty close, you know. And then royal lived on for another 53 years, never remarrying that we could see. We didn't see any kind of another marriage certificate. That is correct, yeah. Yeah. Lived long enough for me to meet him. So he died when I was a teenager. So here's an ancestor that you knew about, but you expressed interest and whether the line was proven. So, you know, of course, Rebecca town nurse is known. Her name is known by a lot of people that have researched history around Salem. And, you know, following the line though to see if it's a proven line was is, you know, was what we did one of the things that we do instead of just going, oh yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, I got it. So we're going to step back through until we get to her and to do this. We went back to your great grandparents on the Thayer line, and that Samuel LinkedIn Jiro and his wife Laura Eta there Jiro. Now we know he attended Dartmouth College and then seminary school. He was ordained after his first marriage to Lucy Merriam, and he enlisted in the 14th New Hampshire in infantry during the Civil War. His wife Lucy died of course he remarried to your great grandmother Laura there. He had Samuel had one child with Lucy a daughter named Mary Clementine with a second wife Laura he had seven children. So that information in the Gerald genealogy which he compiled, incidentally, so it was pretty cool. Yeah, cheers. And then here, yes, he saw the importance of preserving our history and putting that scrapbook together, you know, which also contain the town's history. And I know he had called out to the town's members, you know, to add their own information of that and you know just stressing how much history was important. There's a picture of him in the Civil War years. Yeah, we'll send these to you just in case you don't have any and we tried to put the pictures in there that we can find so No, I don't have all of them. No, I don't have any of those. And he and Laura lived out long lives. He died at the age of 71 her at the age of 88. Six of their joint children survived them as did Samuel's daughter that he'd have with Lucy. One daughter he had lost at the tender age of 15 days. So, once again, those baby deaths are so sad. From there we go through Laura's parents, Warren and Pramilia there. He was a successful farmer and a deacon. She was said to be a devout and praised mother and wife. She had eight children all raised in New Hampshire. Laura lived at the age of 77, Warren to 92. And I thought it was really cool, you know, that we actually found those comments that were saying what a wonderful person the wife was, because generally you just hear about the men, you know, and what they do. And then that square is Pramilia sampler that's a sampler that she crossed it. So, I thought that was really cool. Yeah. The Gerald family and the New Englanders generally kept way more records than any other quadrant of the family. Yeah. So, from then we go on and now we're moving to Pramilia's grandparents Philip Nurse and Anna Putman. These connections were easily proven. The records in Salem, Massachusetts were really easy to find, you know, but Massachusetts as a whole, generally has a pretty good grasp of, you know, maintaining their records. They haven't lost them like some of the states where, you know, whole sections of records are gone. Now Philip had initially married his second cousin Sarah Putnam and had four children with her. And then when she died, he married her sister Anne and had five children with her. Okay. So, another big family. Open that way. Then we go to past Philip's parents, Francis and Eunice Putnam. And for that generation, they spelled it Norse instead of nurse. We didn't see it both ways in those older records. They had nine children. There were more records about the woman who was judicially murdered in Salem. Continue. Yeah. We did find both spellings. It's also noted that there was a third spelling in Massachusetts and they did notate in their records and USS. So you were supposed to look at all three spellings in order to find the records. Yep. And I know you know all about her, but other people that watch your interview may not know all of it. And her early life was remarkable only by the journey that her family made to settle early in New England. They had most likely arrived in 1639. She married John Nurse about 1644 in Salem. And it said they had eight children with the last being born in 1666. And then it wasn't until 26 years later that a group of young girls accused several of the local women of witchcraft. And for those that don't know a wave of hysteria spread through the Colonial Massachusetts. And a special court was convened to hear the cases of more than 150 men, women and children. And Rebecca was actually one of the first of those implicated. Yeah, there's some interesting articles on Wikipedia for the most readily accessible descriptions of what went on, which I have read in the past is pretty, pretty awful. It really is. You know, and I didn't realize she was, you know, until we looked into it more that she was so far past childbearing age so it's not even like, you know, one of the young middle-aged women that were gossiping and, you know, finding little things to pick at each other. I mean, this was somebody that was getting on in her years, you know, she was well established. Everybody liked her, obviously, except for those few people. And, you know, and then that happened anyways. Really horrific. One of the things I'd read about her before I was sure of the connection, which you have just proved. Thank you. Now I have kind of an ancestor to brag about. Ancestors who were hanged as highwaymen. But anyway, yeah, one of the things said about her was that she was deaf when she was tried rather deaf and couldn't really hear what was going on. So she did not make good responses. Yeah, and she seemed a little confused, you know, and of course being up in our olden years that may have just been that just age also. She didn't seem to understand who these people were and why these charges were being taken seriously. Now, before we move on to the next ancestor, though, we're going to take a look at some of the parties involved. And this was interesting. So Sarah Biber was one that, of course, accused many people of witchcraft and said she knew all details about their spells to raise the devil. And one of those people she accused was Rebecca. So to counteract that Rebecca's sister, Sarah testified that she watched Sarah Biber prick herself with pans from her clothes and then say Rebecca had harmed her. So even with a witness saying that she'd seen Sarah do this to herself, it didn't help two of her daughters and a son of law also testified on her behalf. Now, when the restaurant was written out, it was said that Rebecca committed much hurt and injury to the body of and cut them. The Lauren against her is what you see on the left. And of course, there was no real proof that she had harmed and in any way either and poor Rebecca was just still confused about the whole thing. And then the final person on the list. This one's of interest to you is Joseph Hutchinson. And he was one of the first accusers of Rebecca and the other women that the initial warrants were out and of course he sat on that special court that was convened. So to go back to the proven lines where we were at Philip nurse and his wife Anna Putman. Instead of going off to Samuel nurse we're going to go off to Eunice's mother who is bethaya Hutchison. And she was the granddaughter of Joseph Hutchinson. So he's also an eighth grade grandfather of yours on the fair line. And your eighth great grandfather, Joseph Hutchinson accused your eighth great grandmother, Rebecca nurse of being a witch. Okay. But I know. And you know, it's funny how that there just the descendants wind up marrying and making those connections and later on we're like, Oh, wow, we got people on both sides. I had one of the judges and I had one of the supposed witches so yeah. So that's very Joe we never heard about him and the family tracking. Yeah, we had to do some careful tracking to double check the connection for that and it was it was true. And of course she threw herself at the mercy of the court and she was executed anyways. And you know it was almost 20 years before her name was cleared and it was accepted that she was innocent. Yeah, but there were just so many of them. Yeah, it was it was a not so it thing. Anyway, more. We have more we have another really interesting one and this is one of your a little bit closer fifth grade grandmothers and a wirebacker Hannah and her sister Elizabeth. And it goes on your mother's side of the tree to her mother Pauline Hettrick to her mother Elizabeth Coleman Hettrick to her mother Susan Drummond Coleman. And then to her mother, Jane, and it goes finally from Jane to her father Daniel and out to Anna wirebacker so she's still out there. But you know she's she's mostly off that maternal line that comes from Lord Gerald. Anna and Elizabeth wirebacker were two of the. There were at least seven children born to Johannes wirebacker and Anna Catherine the best wirebacker. And they moved to Northumberland Pennsylvania in 1775 and what them was part of the frontier. They had a quiet life in Buffalo Township pending to their small farm with its two horses and three cows. Times were turbulent for all of those during the American Revolution so to add to the tension. The rock one nations had sided with the British and didn't welcome those that were on the frontier that were fighting for a new country. So as Anne's family had heard of an impending slaughter there was a rumor going around. They joined the others and what was later said to be, you can only call it a stampede of families, where people had just grabbed up what they could carry and they were all wildly fleeing the valley they just were sure the Indians, you know the Native Americans were going to come in and and slaughter them. And of course it didn't happen. There were some incidents that happen, but that particular one didn't. And by late 1780 or 1781 her family had moved back to Buffalo Valley to farm. That little particular area of Buffalo Township is among the oldest settlements in Butler County. So before the reorganization in 1854 it was one of the largest townships in the county, being nearly nine miles in length and eight miles in width. Some part of the township being heavily timbered was considered the most desirable and the agriculture thrive there so the sketch that you see there's also there's actually several of these that are from that township in that era. I don't know whose houses, you know which houses whose, but these were sketches that were done at the time. And so in 1781 while most of the family was out working the farm, Anna and her sister Elizabeth had stayed back behind. They were 14 and 16 so they may have been doing other tasks you know, cooking, washing clothes, whatever it is that needed to be done by young girls at that time. But the turbulent times were not quite over and the girls were seized by the natives that had raided the farm. They set fire to the cabin before they left taking both of the young girls with them. And the fire consequently was the first thing that was noticed they wouldn't have noticed so soon that the girls were gone if they wouldn't have seen the smoke rising from the house. But they got back too late to stop them. Now Anna escaped a few days later and made her way back to her family but her sister wasn't with her when she arrived. And so the initial tales of the abduction all stated that Elizabeth was never heard of afterwards. But in fact her father had located her after the war was over and it was interesting you know he had heard a rumor that you know this tribe had two young ladies, white young girls in their midst after the war was over. And him and some of the other dads that also had daughters missing you know decided to go travel out there and look for them. And they made the journey and they got out there and of course there is you know one of the girls that stayed back with the Native Americans was his daughter Elizabeth. And he had talked to her and said you know I want to bring you home well this is several years after she's already been there. And they told her that you know if if these men come and they actually take you girls back home I'm telling you that they will be slaughtered on their own home, they will not be allowed to live. They cannot take what is ours. And so what the lore is, is that she said, you know, I don't want anything to happen to you father. So I'm just going to stay and just know that I'm safe. And she actually wound up becoming the wife of the chief, the mother of a large family, and she lived beyond the age of 80, and she just stayed there. That is captives not wanting to go back is not an uncommon story you hear it repeatedly in these kinds of incidents from the period. So it's a complicated, complicated times. Yeah, emotionally and otherwise. Yeah, and especially after seven years you know and if they're not actually captive by that time they're just actively living in that community. You have to stop and think how much did they accept that as now being their home. And you have to think about, you know, what did they come from and was it really all that much better for some of these women, the lives that they were leading within their families. Life on the frontier was not easy, you know, for for any of them for the men out trying to work the farm for the women that are out trying to help the men work the farm and, you know, raise the family. Yes, the work is incredible. Yeah, these are the headstones for Adam and I'll send you a better picture of it and also for Anna. They had at least four children they raised them all their Butler township. And now, after everything that happened with that, she had tragedy later in life and I just feel for this woman and her family, you know, it was just seems like it was several things that really set them back. Her and Adam had had a set of twins. And so she wrote out with four months old little baby Anna, and her husband Adam carried the twin Adam junior on his horse, and they set out for the day. Well they got to the creek and went to cross it and Anna's horse slipped and her and baby Anna went into the creek. So, yeah, so Adam was able to hang on to little Adam, you know, and get him out of the creek to safety but he couldn't do that and save his wife. And so, Anna and the four year old Anna both perished in the creek. So many drownings. People were not taught to swim back then. I don't know if it's just that right. I know and you don't know I mean if it's just was she not swimming, you know, did she get knocked into the rocks I mean you just have no way and no one but there's no way he could have held the baby and kept him safe and still, you know, pulled the wife out. But she was only 27 when she died, so he was eventually buried next to her in the night ex-cemitry and Haynes township. So, here we have another one, another set of eight great grandparents for you and this is Henry Adams and his wife, Edith Squire. They are eight great grandparents through your Geraldine. Now, this is going way back there so Henry and Edith married in 1609 in Charlton Mackerel, Somerset, England. He was a distiller of spirits and a farmer. They arrived in New England. Yeah. You had a distiller. Yeah. They arrived in New England in 1638. They traveled with seven sons and a daughter, and then another son that was adult, sailed and joined them later. And they were actually one of the earliest settling families of Mount Wallace in Massachusetts. Okay. They say he was known popularly as the founder of New England because of his extraordinary number of grandchildren. There were 89 of them. Good heavens. A lot of people were an ancestor then. Right. Definitely some big families. I couldn't keep track of 89 grandchildren. I just don't know what I would do. He had his large family for settling near the coast and so they wound up staying in Braintree, Massachusetts, which is now known as Quincy. He died on the 6th of October, 1646 and was buried on the 8th of October. His will is dated in 1646 and was proved in June of 1647. And it mentions his wife, Edith and all but the three oldest children. They had nine children and all. So he had probably given stuff to those, you know, the older children when they had moved out already. But a monument was erected by his grave by his descendant, John Adams, the second president of the United States. Good heavens. And it's inscribed as follows. In memory of Henry Adams, who took his flight from the Dragon persecution in Devonshire and alighted with eight sons near Mount Wollaston. One of the sons returned to England and after taking time to explore the country, four removed to Medfield and the neighboring towns to Chelmsford. Only one Joseph who lies here, his left hand remained here, who was an original proprietor in the township of Braintree incorporated in 1639. This stone and several others have been placed by a great great grandson from a veneration of the piety humility simplicity, prudence patients temperance, frugality industry and perseverance of his ancestors. In hopes of recommending an imitation of their virtues for posterity. Hmm. People track their ancestors in that quadrants. They really did. Yeah. So see, you have some several very well known ones that you maybe haven't heard about because, you know, so much has been done on the Geraldine, but maybe not on the others. Now we know it's not just. The women's life is kind of get lost in the shuffle. Go ahead. Yeah, we know that men brave the frontier and face hardships but you know Edith raised those nine children while caring for the home in a new country, and except for a sister that migrated Edith had to help build and support a new home with no family around them. She continued to tend to the family and the land for five years on her own after Henry's death. Finally remarrying to John Fessel. Edith lived to the age of 84. John lived for another four years. He actually died at the hands of the Wapanoa tribe during a raid. He was 101 years old. Oh my God. I know. I said to my husband I said, how old was he going to be if they didn't come in and kill him at age 101. 102 maybe. 110 he might have walked around for another nine years. I don't know. That was pretty incredible though. And just the fact that the wife made it you know so long and so long on her own because I know not only do the women's stories get shuffled to the side but of course the women weren't weren't thought to be able to take care of themselves. And you know, yeah, take care of a home and the family and she obviously did just fine until somebody convinced her that marrying would be good. But yeah, she had to have been a really strong woman. And a bunch of family tree actually. Yeah, there's more. Yeah, you had you had a lot of incredible ones. Now this one after touching briefly on an ancestor that was a distiller. I just wanted to make a nod to Johannes S. John Bieber, which is alternately of course Bell beaver. He was one of your fourth great grandfathers. And so we followed your father's side of the tree to get to the final job we went through his mother Pearl Margaret beaver McMaster. And to john H beaver on the john as an H beaver or beaver. He spelled it both ways. Then to his father DeWalt beaver. And I noticed that those were some pretty popular common names so there were a lot of johns and there were a number of DeWalt sprinkled that sprinkled in there. Okay, making sure you've got the right one must be a challenge for you. Yeah, yeah and you know then you're hoping they list the wives because because so many johns and john as it was just it was a lot. Now john was one of the 12 children born to DeWalt beaver and civilians time runner beaver. Once out on his own john married and bought some land farm. He started with a simple 150 acres he had two horses, three cows and four sheep. His wife Susanna died before 1799. As he married a second time. Now he and his wife Catherine had six children. And he now had increased his property that he and he owned 237 acres of land. Any kids you would need that much land. I know you definitely would. Yeah and you'd need the cows and the you know the milk and the chickens for the eggs and everything just to feed him. So, john continued to live a quiet life in Maxitani. He paid his taxes he served on a jury and he even signed a petition supporting his friend, john camps petition to run an in in his home. And it wasn't until john's probate file that we got further details. He had john had 10 children and all the exact amount of his siblings. His real estate in 1846 was valued at $13,411, which was quite a bit of money back then, you know, he also, this was interesting five beehives. You don't see a lot of mention of beehives back, you know, in the day but people had to have them. They got sweets. It was an excellent food source. And then additionally, he had a copper barrel kettle, which was found in his belongings which was generally used for distilling spirits. So, you know, it begs the question did he produce spirits for that friend john camps and did he sell spirits to help support his family. I will never know that unless a descendant comes forward with a family tale or some family lore. But what we do know is he was a successful farmer who cared for his family until the end and beyond. And then you have many ancestors and relatives that served in the military and here are just a few that served in the civil war and I'm sure you've seen a lot of these, but we definitely like to three know about three beyond that I know nothing so continue. And you know and if you were looking at might not be direct either but we really like to recognize and acknowledge our veterans. Your great grandfather Samuel LinkedIn Gerald serving company G of the 14th New Hampshire infantry. And it looks like his last rank was Sergeant. Your second great grandmother's brother, Gowan Drummond serving company E of the 206 Pennsylvania volunteer inventory. Your second great grandmother's other brother, andronic has drum and served in company F 206 regiment Pennsylvania infantry from 1861 to 1865. And then three of your great grandmother Laura at a fairs brother served in various units. So William McClure there served in company a of the 117th New York infantry. Leonard Edward there served as a Sergeant and company K of the 96th New York infantry. And then hire him or cut there served in company a of the New York infantry and he died from wounds five weeks after mastering in. Yeah, I think I saw about the 14th, New Hampshire 14th was about twice as many people with man died of disease than of wounds. It's kind of interesting statistic. Yeah, that is even Martin experiences as a doctor carry on. Yeah, well yeah and conditions and medical care and you know just such a combination of things back then. Now your second great grandfather Lawrence airs nephew Charles Edward Tupper serving company G of the second Vermont infantry. He died in a regimental hospital in 1861 from pipe late fever. Yep, taking a lot of them. And if you have your third great grandmother Jane Hennings served during the Civil War in the 138th Pennsylvania infantry so you had a lot of Pennsylvanian ones. And he died in 1863 age 28 in Locust Grove during the mine run campaign which was an unsuccessful attempt of the Union Army of the Potomac to defeat the Confederate army of northern Virginia. So definitely want to thank them all for their service and anyone that we have missed on this tree. Now I'm lucky tree we're all cousins by blood or marriage once we're connected to the global tree. You know we can check on anybody and see how many steps it is to or you know whether you're a direct cousin to somebody. And right now there are 26,284,283 people connected. So we're just going to take a look at a couple of you tree over here they're not necessarily to me well if I'm on waking tree we're connected. Now you asked about John Locke the philosopher. He's a cousin but it's quite a stretch. So John is your ninth cousin 11 times removed. At that point it is. Yeah, it really is. In the family somebody thought it was a connection so. I just think it's cool that our software will do this now you know it just it'll look so far back for a connection. I have I'm very vague on how cousins and cousins removed and cousins a number numbered you know actually works but probably yeah tips. Yeah, and if you do if you look on the charts on wiki tree. It'll show you every step along the way every person that's in between you and them and then you can see if it jumps online by marriage. Now this is your first cousin four times removed so not as far away. John Albie and he was interesting he was known as a Unitarian minister. He turned into a transcendental poet known for his friendship and his correspondence with Ralph Waldo Emerson, among others. He published a memoir that included his mother stories about his grandmother hold a fair Albie which is your fourth great grandmother. He described her as a large stout woman who were an immense bonnet that flared white in the front and big both silver spectacles. And he was interesting. One of the people that you know that he knew was Edison, and there's a story by daughter or granddaughter his about how he had stood there. And they did the two can type things with a string, you know trying to figure out how to make the phone work when he first came up with a concept. And you know one would yell can you hear me and the other ones like yeah I can hear you. And yeah Alexander Bell. Alexander Graham Bell. So which one was he friends with. He was friends with a with a number of Alexander Bell he was Ralph Waldo Emerson. He was friends with a lot of them. Okay. And then, and I'll send you the, I'll send you the profile on him so you can see that all is on there. Now john Adams was born 19 October 1735 and brain tree. See daughter prominent family they had five children and 10 years still born daughter and daughter and 1777. And the second president in the United States and that is john and Lois our four cousins four times room or first cousins four times removed. Okay. Yeah. That was that's new. John Steinbeck was another connection, and he of course is an American author best known for his novels the grapes are off and of mice and men. It's typical, it's typical of his focus to be on the plight of the downtrodden, and you and john are first cousins four times removed. There's also new information. So those are fun, you know, there's other people you can look at in the future, and I'll give you the instructions for it you can just say hey is this person related to me if it's on with the tree and I'll tell you if they are and how far away. For the final thing I just want to take a minute to mention a few top people during your challenge week now Karen Lois your captain and she led your research team she did an incredible job, keeping everybody motivated and going. Chris O'Connell was the top score and he added 90 profiles so 90 ancestors to your branches during that one week. We had Homer feel who was the top bounty hunter, and he found some really great information out within the leaves so you know there will be a few more things and I will send you what we have on them. And you know you can take a look of course I can never fit it all into the presentations but. Yeah, you found way more than I was expecting. So we have the McMasters. How far did you get with the McMasters. Let me bring them up. It looks like we just took it to James McMaster 1801. We didn't have enough information to see where he could have come from in Ireland. I know we saw some stuff online that where people had you know speculated that he may have come. But we couldn't find any proof on where the actual location was so we didn't get to jump the pond for the Ireland masters. Another came down through Ontario I know my father's grandfather was a stonemason. He came down to Pennsylvania after the Civil War and you know beyond that on the McMaster side I'm a little like I know my dad did some checking at one point but. Yeah, James McMaster he was born 1801 and he's the migrating ancestors is what it said. And so he married in 1830 in Ontario. So him and his wife Esther Henry were in Canada. Okay. And that would have been my grand, great grandfather's father. Where are we at here we've got my dad, Robert my grandfather Charles Royal my great grandfather was his name Marshall. So he's your second great grandfather. Okay. So yeah I was really hoping that we could find enough to hand it off to our Ireland project you know and have them take a look at it and get a little bit further. But once again we did not have a location in Ireland that we could look in and narrow it down to and so that was as far as we got with that one. Okay. So did you gain new information that was interesting Lewis. Oh, absolutely yeah the person it's the new English keep the record. I was very pleased to to get the connection with Rebecca Norse confirmed. And the John luck actually turns out to be kind of true. So that was cool. But yeah all the all the ancestors I've never heard of, you know that didn't even appear on any of the bits and pieces of trees that I had seen. Really interesting crowd and of course the John Adams connection who wouldn't. Although that's apparently not rare. And yet you figure he has a lot of descendants but I mean really your distance to him is not that far off so. Cool. A lot of writing coves in my ancestry looks like. So did. Did I get to show you this was the type script that my mother had. Okay. I'm going to read those diaries of Cynthia locked Gerald and Mark now Gerald, which have gone into the, to the Gerald family of New Hampshire and the Civil War chapbook which I set your link to. When you put this stuff up if you would put a link to the Amazon page for that book. I would appreciate it very much. Yeah, definitely. There was there was Martin's diary for 1864. Yeah I've been reading some of the diary items and it's just fascinating the amount of detail sometimes you know they only had that little bit to write in for each day. And so you know the entries were limited on what it could be. And sometimes you still really got a sense of how they felt during that era, or, you know, what was important that it happened. Yeah, it's very direct and it's very unedited. Yeah. And it builds between the lines you know you begin to see the connections and realize what must have been going on. And there's what the figure that Samuel Gerald's wartime reminiscence look like. And, oh yeah, the genealogy of familial Gerald I do not have a copy of the book itself which was it's slimmer in volume but it was online, which we found in the nice photo copy. I was hoping one of the cousins had the hardcover book to show us but I think they weren't understanding what I wanted to see. It existed at one time because I copy passed through my hands I saw that I had. I'm not sure who got it, but now that it's online everybody's got it and there's no shortage. Yeah, and one way or the other I know they all had their own copies they said, you know, but I didn't get to see whether it was a hardcover, you know, a bound book or, or a printed copy. You had a maroon cover. Very, very fascinating stuff. Well, it has been an absolute pleasure and, you know, Lois I'm sure you want to look through some of the ancestors on your tree wanted and great things about what you tree was very good and I did not peek in advance. Well, you're free to peek now you know and I do love the story space that we have and so you know not that we're making up stories but we try and like bring these ancestors back to life for you and other descendants out of the documents that we do find and so you know I hope you are able to find other really great tidbits and then I'm going to send you some PDFs on some of the stuff we did gather up for the end here. I will have to send them on to my other relatives are not plugged into this they'll be interested I think that's great and it's further down the line. Do you have any questions of me. I'm not at this time. I'll have to look over the material and, and that should be fun. Thank you so much for inviting me did this thing I have never heard of it before and would not have guessed. It's been our pleasure Lois definitely talk to you later.