 فشرف بالشتغالي بالعلم ولا تبغي به ما عشت يا دا دا دا لا وياله من شراف عظيمي الحمد لله رب العالمين له الحمد الحسن والثناء الجميل واشدوا الله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له يقول الحق وهو يهدي سبيل واشدوا أن سيدنا ونبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وأصحابه والتابعين لهم بإحسان إلى يوم الدير أما بعد إن شاء الله تعالى وان now going to be speaking about حق معتقد المرجع the belief that the murjiah have في مرتكب الكبيرة in the affairs related to the person who does major sin what do the murjiah believe we spoke about the وعيدية and the وعيدية are the خوارج and the معتزلة and their belief regarding the مرتكب الكبيرة the person who does major sin we are now going to go into the belief of the third deviated group which is the مرجع what do the murjiah believe regarding the major sin in this world number one the first one is what is their belief the مرجع what is it that they believe that the major sin is in this world for the individual who comes with it the مرجع believe that the person who comes with major sin his e-man is complete أن مرتكب الكبيرة مؤمن كامل الإيمان that he is a mu'min is the believer not only that كامل الإيمان his e-man is complete but how is that this is based on the belief that they believe that the actions are not part of إيمان إيمان is not actions it's only what's in your heart and you see this belief creep into many Muslims like you see a brother who cuts his beard whose trousers is dragging on the ground he's lying he's deceiving he's distanced and you say actually what you're doing is wrong he'll tell you my heart is good or do you know what's in my heart you see a sister who's not wearing hijab correctly and you advise her بليتي هي أحسن you advise her in the best of ways the best of ways and then she says to you do you know what's in my heart هادي إرجع this is إرجع this is the أعتقد of the مرجع because we believe that the إيمان is not just an action heart we believe the actions are also إيمان so why are you necessitated that I see your heart isn't it enough that I see your actions as well isn't the action part of إيمان as much as the heart is and then the actions of the heart are part of إيمان you see so this is a concept of the مرجع but they don't believe that we don't say those people are مرجع no we don't say that but this concept has creeped in into the general mass based on the belief of the مرجع who take the action out of إيمان and they believe أنها ليست داغيلة في مسمى الإيمان actions don't even enter into the definition of الإيمان and this is one thing we already spoke about previously and the علماء they have explained to us the belief of the مرجع when it comes to what they believe of the sinners the Muslims who sin إبن حزب رحمه الله he said in his كتاب الفصل في الملالي والأهواء والنحب and I want you to take this on board أبو محمد إبن حزم نعم إباب الأسماء والصفات the scholars of أهل السنة والجماعة they refute him إباب الأسماء والصفات إبن حزم has gone against أهل السنة but don't think to yourself he went against أهل السنة إباب الأسماء والأحكام the issues of إيمان and كفر إبن حزم is with أهل السنة when it comes to مسائل الإيمان مسائل الكفر إبن حزم is not on the belief of the مبتدعة الأهل البداة are you with me إبن حزم here إباب الأسماء والأحكام إبن حزم clearly says that he is according and he is of the part of أهل السنة والجماعة so pay attention and if we quote him here many times don't think to yourself that we are quoting somebody who went against أهل السنة باب الأسماء والأحكام إبن حزم says اختلف الناس اختلف الناس في تسمية المذنب من أهل من لتيني فقالت المرجأة هو مؤمن كامل الإيمان وإن لم يعمل خيرا قطن ولا كف عن شر pay attention to this إبن حزم رحمة الله هي say that the مرجأ I said that the person who sins is a complete believer his إيمان is complete وإن لم يعمل خيرا قطن even if he hasn't done any good whatsoever even if he hasn't come with any actions they believe they believe هو مؤمن كامل الإيمان he is a believer and his إيمان is complete even if he hasn't done any good ولا كف عن شر قطن and even if he hasn't stayed away from what even if he hasn't stayed away from sins okay so what does this tell us the belief of the مرجع the belief of the مرجع ولي ذلك الشيخ الإسلام إبن تيميا when he was speaking about the methodologies of the people regarding the sinners and those who sin he said فقالة المرجأة the مرجأة they said جهميتهم وغيروا جهميتهم جهميتهم وغيروا جهميتهم they had جهميتهم once because the مرجأة they have مرجأة الجهمية مرجأة الأشاعة مرجأة الكرامية all of the مرجأة as many he said the مرجأة which are جهميين and the مرجأة which are not جهميين all of them have said هو مؤمن كامل الإيمان that the the sinner he is a مؤمن and his إيمان is كامل are we all are we the person is what مؤمن كامل الإيمان he is drinking alcohol مؤمن كامل الإيمان he is committing زنع مؤمن كامل الإيمان he is a مؤمن إيمان is complete he is lying مؤمن كامل الإيمان الإيمان أبي حسن الأشعري هذا الكتاب خد مقالات الإسلاميين where he talks about the different groups he mentions وأجماعة المرجأة بأسرها they all agree أن دارة دارة إيمان وحكم أهلها الإيمان إلا من ظهر منه خلاف الإيمان خلاف الإيمان the مرجأة I have all agreed by among themselves that this world is the world of الإيمان everybody has a moment no one is a catholic وحكم أهلها الإيمان and we give the rule if everybody in this world إيمان إلا من ظهر منه خلاف الإيمان except the one who says I'm not a believer the answer is everybody is a believer this is their belief the مرجأة are we all together so this world replace everybody مؤمن except the one who proves elsewhere who says I'm not a believer so number two we finish the point number one which is حكم مرتكي بالكبيرة عند المرجأة في الدنيا what is the belief of the مرجأة regarding the person who comes with major sin in this world صح we're now going to speak about what is the ruling of the one who does major sin according to the مرجأة in the hereafter in the hereafter the scholars who wrote about the فرق the different groups like for example if you read the book الفصل في الملل والأهوائي والنحال بأمنا حزم or if you read the كتاب written by شهرستاني if you read the كتاب written by أبو الحسن الأشعر على مقالات الإسلاميين and all the different books that talk about the فرق the groups those books when they transmit to us the belief of the the belief and the مرجأة مرتكي بالكبيرة that they believe they state that they say so when they transmit it to us they all stated that the مرجأة believe that the major person who does major sin is going to go to Jannah he will go to Jannah ولا يدخلوا أحد منهم الناراء and not anyone who eats the one who does زينا who lies who funicates who kills they say this individual is not going to enter the health fight at all he's going to go to Jannah any sin that he does وإن فعلا ما فعلا من ادلوب والآتاني he can do whatever sins he wants he can commit any crimes that he wants he basically is going to stay in what in Jannah are you with me and this is a belief that has creeped into them from the belief of the Christians who believe Jesus it has taken all our sins that Jesus has taken all of our sins صح and the Christians say I can do what I want I'm a Christian and Jesus took everything from me so this is their belief ملطي رحمة الله ملطي رحمة الله he transmitted ازكتبت تبيه والرد على أهل الأهواء والبدع that some of them are saying من قال لا إله لله محمد الرسول الله anyone who says لا إله لله محمد الرسول الله وحرم ما حرم الله وحل ما أحل الله دخل الجنة إذا مات that anyone who says لا إله لله محمد الرسول الله and he prohibits that which Allah prohibits and he makes Halal that which Allah makes Halal and if Allah prohibits he says حرم and if Allah prohibits he says حرم he will enter heaven وإم زنا إبن فيه كمئة زنا he does not zna zna zna zna zna he does not zna zna zna zna so he does not zna zna zna بإم زنا وإن سرق وإن سرق وقاتل وشريب الخمر وقذف المحسنات وترك الصلاة وزكات والصيان إذا كان مقررا بها يسوي قتوبة لم يضره قوعة وعلى الكبائل وتركه للفرائل فواحشة فقمتوا يقول إلاء الله محمد رسول الله و fruit of Allah فرجعرو و Mentchuna ويكفر فالتخفض ومểm ساحف ووغفع وغفع وغفع وغفع وكذlong ع شيء و 장난ك و بعملة وترك المحمد الله يقول في مجموعة الفتاة 7 بلون بايد 181 يقول أن القولة بأن أهل الكبائر يدخلون الجنة و لا يدخلون النعراء إبنوتيمي و يدخلوا منهم أنهم يؤمنون أن الناس يدخلون جنة يدخلون الجنة و لا يدخلون الهلفاية مرجعات كم كثيرة؟ نحن قد نتكلم هذا المرجعات are three groups هذه المرجعات التي نتكلم right now are the ones we refer to as the ones we call غالية المرجعة the extreme مرجع but the مرجع are three groups the first one are غولات المرجع the extreme مرجع the second one are كرامية and the third one are مرجعة الفقها مرجعة الفقها so the جهمية are إنه غولات المرجع the جهمية are غولات the extreme ones the second one are كرامية and the third one are مرجعة الفقها are you with me so all of the statements that we transmitted who is it that we said regarding the issue of آخرة the غولات and who is the غولات the جهمية what do the كرامية believe the كرامية what's apparent from the statement of Shaykh and Islam and what Ibn Taymi is saying when he transmitted their مدهب that the كرامية are also the same as the مرجع the جهمية that the person will enter جنة even the one who commits sins major sins so the كرامية from the of Ibn Taymi transmission it seems that there's no difference between the كرامية and the جهمية in this aspect in this particular aspect there is no difference between the كرامية and the جهمية from what is apparent from this جهمية page 56 you see that Shaykh and Islam Taymi he brings the statement of the كرامية the 13th volume page 56 and you see that's what he says we're now left with the third group which I call them مرجقة الفقها okay مرجقة الفقها they are in agreement with أهل السنة والجماعة in what that the person who comes with major sin is going to endure punishment will punish them in their house fire they are with them وردالك شيخ رسامي بروتيميا he says in his مجوع الفتاة the 13th volume page 38 to page 39 he says وكانت هذه البدعة أخف البداعي بروتيميا is talking about this is in a context of him talking about مرجقة الفقها when they oppose أهل السنة والجماعة is an issue of إيمان okay he said وكانت هذه البداع the innovation of مرجقة الفقها the third group the innovation is أخف البداع is the least innovation they are the least harmful according to the other مرجقة فإن كثيرا من النزاع فيها نزاع فلسمي واللافضي دون الحكم he said a lot of disputes with مرجقة الفقها it's خلاف which is واد إذ كان الفقها والذين يضافوا إليهم هذا القول because those who this view was attributed to these jurists who this view was attributed to are like they are like they are like they are like they are like they are like are like حماد ابن أبي السليمان وابو حنيفة the people who this view is attributed to who are prefer to as مرجقة الفقها is ابو حنيفة and also also حماد ابن أبي السليمان وغيرهما and other than them هم مع سائر أهل السنة متفقينة they are with the rest of أهل السنة والجماعة they are in agreement أن الله يعدب من يعدبه that Allah will punish whoever He wants to punish they are with them من أهل الكبائر from the people who do major sins with the health fire that Allah is going to punish them ثم يخرجهم بالشفاعة and that Allah is going to take them out of the health fire the believers with intercession they are with أهل السنة on this okay كما جاءت الأحديث الصحيحة بذلك as many evidences have come regarding this in the two messages وعلا أنه لا بدّة في الإيمان أن يتكلم بليسان and also وفقهاء المرجئة أهل السنة that it is necessary that the إيمان is articulated on the tongue وعلا أن الأعمال المفروضة واجبتهم and the obligatory acts are wajib that a person has to come with it وتاليكها مستحق لذنبي والعقاب and the one who leaves it deserves a severe punishment and also rebuke him that's what Ibn Tayma says شالح الطحاوية إبن أب العز الحنف رحمه الله he says يعني الشرح of عقيدة الطحاوية he said اتفاق أبي حنيفة مع سائر الأئمة أبي حنيفة he agreed with the other remaining أئمة على أن مرتكب الكبيرة that the one who does major sin لا يخرج من الإيمان that he won't leave إيمان the person who does major sin he won't leave إيمان بل هو في مشيئة الله rather he is under الله's will إن شاء الله once he punishes him وإن شاء عفا عانو and if Allah once he lets him go so he believes in that and that's what أهل السنة believe in we believe that the person who does major sin doesn't leave Islam we also believe that if Allah once he punishes that person or if Allah سبحانه و تعالى wishes he doesn't مرجئة I believe no he doesn't get punished the خوارجة on the other side they believe he does get punished and that's the only thing that can happen to him إن شاء عجبه وإن شاء عفا عنه if Allah wishes he punishes him and if Allah wishes he forgives him he also says وأجمع على أنه لو صدق بقلبه وأقرر بالسان ومتنع عن العمر بدواريح أنه عاصل لله ورسوله مستحق للوعيدة he also mentions هيا اللي نشارح الطحاوية وأجمع فقهاء المرجئة أقول لغري على أنه لو صدق بقلبه if he believes in his heart وأقرر بالسان and he testifies are you with me he testifies with what with his tongue ومتنع عن العمر بدواريح and he also what rather this إجمع that he's transmitting this إجمع that he's transmitting it's not إجمع it's إجمع regarding أهل السنة what they believe he says وأجمع على أنه لو صدق بقلبه that أهل السنة أجمع are unanimously in agreement that if a person he believes in his tongue a heart and he testifies on his tongue ومتنع عن العملي بدواريحه and he chooses not to come with actions on his limbs and know عاصل لله ورسوله that person is a sinner for Allah سبحانه وتعالى his command and his messenger and he deserves a severe punishment now this statement of إبنة بالعزل حنفي this إجمع is weak because we know مسألة تاريخه الصلاة is here the issue of the abandoning on the leaving on the prayer when he says ومتنع عن العملي بجواريحه صلاة is here so the إجمع here doesn't exist there's no إجمع here are you with me like in this issue is an issue that can that is very serious especially those who accuse شق الباني of having إججاء are you with me إبنة بالعزل حنفي here transmit something what does he transmit he transmits إجمع he said we don't agree with him on the إجمع but what is the إجمع that he transmitted that if a person never comes with the actions of the limbs that he's what is he a catholic no أنه عاصل لله ورسوله مستحق للوعي he is a sila to Allah and his messenger and he's also deserving of a severe punishment this is what he said this is a besألة it's a بحث آخر it's another whole other discussion are we all together on that issue now we're going to go into the last point regarding this issue of the مرجع believing the major sin what they believe regarding it we spoke about it the number one the belief of the major sin in this world towards the مرجع we also spoke about we also spoke about حكم مرتك بالكبيرة the ruling of the one who comes with major sins the day of judgment according to the مرجع we're now going to go into the third point which is what's the foundation in which this base I mean this belief is coming from شيخ الإسلام إبنو تيميا he summarized everything for us شيخ الإسلام إبنو تيميا he summarized the whole matter for us and that is number one إبنو تيميا say they believe that the iman is مجرد تستيقن وعلم فقط for them the iman is just a mere belief and a mere knowledge that's it ليس معه أعمل there's no actions that are with it وحال وحركة there's no movements there's no actions the person needs to come with there's no irada there's no intention and there's no will there's no love there's no fear in the heart that's needed وإذا من أعظم غلط المرجقة المطلقة and this is the greatest problem and the greatest harm that the murji أفعل into the belief is just something in your heart that's it there's nothing that needs to manifest on your limbs the second the second is ظنهم their belief أن كل من حكم الشارع بأنه كافيرون إبنو تيميا says their belief that everybody who the sharia refers to them as a kafir is going to stay in the hellfire forever and so they say because in his heart there was no knowledge and there was no belief are you with me where is أهل السنة والجماعة that sometimes the Kitab and the sunnah may refer to something as kufr or even they do a kafir but he's not a kafir صح are you with me they said no if kafir comes that means a kafir and these two أصل when it came together it concluded their belief in the issue are معتقدهم في حكم مرتكي بالكبيرة their belief regarding the one who comes with major sins so if we look at the first أصل that they the first foundation that they built it on what was it what's the problem with that one the definition of what a man is صح that's the first problem the first نزاع the first أصل is what's قولهم في مسمح what's the definition of إيمان that's the problem the second issue is the issue of the hierafter the person in the hierafter regarding the person in the hierafter those two is what made them go wrong in this particular issue are you with me we're now going to go on to المعتقد أهل السنة في مرتكي بالكبيرة we're now going to go into المعتقد أهل السنة when it comes to the person who comes with major sin what does أهل السنة والجماعة believe if a person comes with major sin what do we believe as أهل السنة والجماعة number one what do we believe the person who comes with major sin in this world أهل السنة والجماعة believe the person who comes with major sin that he is in this world فاسق he's a fast فاسق and he's and he's sinning here does not take him out of the fold of الإسلام neither is he a person who's complete who's a man who's complete okay so he's not a person who's what he's not an individual are we together he's not an individual who's he's transgression and he's sinning here doesn't take him out of the fold of الإسلام and nor is he a person who's إيمان is complete so what is he is a مؤمن بإيمانه he's a believer based on إيمان that he has فاسق بكبيرته and he's a فاسق based on the major sins that he's coming with