 We should be coming on live within a few seconds. There we are. Hi everyone, this is Chicho. Welcome to my channel and welcome to another live stream. Today is March 8th 2020 and we're doing a live stream on philosophy. Open discussion and let me read you the sort of the excuse me. Let me read you the little write-up we have that I posted when I did the announcement for this live stream. And we've done these philosophy live streams before. I think the first one we did was philosophy and pancakes. We went into the kitchen and made some pancakes and talked about life, right? And this is the description basically I wrote down for this stream on our Patreon page. Beliefs, ideologies, dogmas, the core structure of our societies is unraveling and that in turn is forcing us to look inward, trying to understand who we are as well as outward, trying to learn from history and the wisdom shared by those that came before. Let's talk about who we think we are, who we want to be, what we'd like to create, how we would like society to function and what it really means to be free. An enlightened being that understands what it means to be alive. Let's talk philosophy. That's what the live stream is about. Gina, how are you doing? Bless you as well. Let me pop out the chat here and as before we're just going to chill for a few minutes until the notifications go out and see who's joining our live stream and we can talk about whatever you guys want as soon as you guys want. Snack that smile, snatch that smile back. How are you doing? The frog emotes out. What is it? The Esteban. Esteban is out. Is it Esteban? Pablo, what's his name? Escobar. Escobar? I can't remember. Man, I'm bad with names. But basically that's what we're up to today. Felix, how are you doing? Doing well. Doing well on a Sunday. It's sort of sunny outside. Well, it is sunny outside. I plan on going for a nice long walk after the stream. That's what I've been doing routinely after the stream. As long as the weather's holding up, I go for a nice hour and a half, two hour walk. So I think about the stream and take little notes and listen to music. Recently on these walks, I've been towards the end, I listened to some a mix that my partner made, Electronic, sort of a deep house. But for most of the walks, usually it's almost all the walks, I've been listening to some Memphis rap, triple six mafia, phenomenal, phenomenal, right? Dark, deep, heavy rap from the 1990s and some from the 2000s as well. But triple six mafia, I knew a little bit about, well not a little bit, fair bit about Southern Chicano rap with the SPM and their gang, the crowd that they created music. So I went off on those for a long time, but triple six mafia I hadn't listened to. Spiderman, hello, hello, hello, how are you doing? I hope the other day went well. I started going on walks around a local pond, really calming, really calming, Felix. The walks are amazing. Bruce, welcome, welcome, St. Just Germany, hello, hello. Kulio, how's it going? Kono-chiwa, Chicho-san. Kono-chiwa, that's Japanese, huh? Did I pronounce that right? Kono-chiwa, Kono-chiwa. Kulio, hey Hannah, how's life, brother? I take a walk to the tree I planted, oh wow, in the green space near my, near my regular, oh nice thing, ding bobber, 33. You planted a tree, you went in there and put a little sapling in, and it grew. That's fantastic, man. Headphones with good music, good times, good times, meditation, right? Mental samba, hello, hello, how are you doing? Welcome to his live stream. Do you have any thoughts on Jesus from a purely philosophy point of view? Purely philosophy point of view. Like he was, he challenged the status quo, like he was a rebel, right? If, if a Jesus figure came to be right now, he would, he or she or they would go when they were traveling around, tracking around with their followers. If they went to any of these mega churches, they would tell them they're all sinners. If they went to Wall Street, he'd do the same thing at the bazaar, throw stuff around and kick people out. Money lenders, like he would be pretty much sick based on how our society functions right now. Hello everyone, Luna, how are you doing? Bitstar, how are you? Welcome, welcome, good morning, Sunday morning. Did everyone change their clock back or forward? Forward? Did everyone change their, well actually some places don't abide by the change in the clocks. I recently gone into late 80s, early 90s rap, one of my favorite genres of the one. Yeah, Felix, and if you're into the late 80s, early 90s rap, check out SPM South Park, Mexican, phenomenal Chicano rap from down, down Texas, I believe, Hillwood and stuff like this, phenomenal. And triple six mafia, wow, wow, wow. Konnichiwa, Konnichiwa, I'm learning Japanese on my own for the last three weeks. Nice, Konnichiwa, I guess that means hello. Halim, how are you doing? Oh, open discussion, some corona panic. We've talked a fair bit about it brother, I feel a fair bit about it. Everyone got their toilet paper? First baseball game of the year today, Chichon. Nice, Hannah, philosophical, sorry. My favorite philosophical quote, I am because we are. I am because we are. What are our thoughts, Chats? I am because we are. Who said that, Spider-Man? I love baseball, good for you. So I requested the stream to mostly discuss philosophical questions, but I am very open to getting some book recommendations as well. I'll be writing any book recommendations down. Awesome. So gang, if you guys have book recommendations regarding philosophy, for sure lay it down. I think we could all read, use a little bit extra philosophy in our lives instead of the noise that is generated by our societies, right? Martin, how are you doing? Not yet, a few more weeks. What's that, Martin? A few more weeks. Philosophically should society ban tobacco? No. And legalize cannabis. End prohibition on everything, everything. Philosophically speaking, we are free human beings and there should be no prohibition from centralized institutions on anything. As long as you're not going around hurting other people, right? So self-consumption? Why should a centralized institution ban self-consumption of anything? It's not I think, therefore I am. I am comes before thought. Thoughts. I am comes before thought. It's not I think, therefore I am. I am, therefore I think. So it's I am, therefore I think. Another philosophical quote, with great power there must also come great responsibility. Stan Lee Jack Kirby, right? Or sorry, it would be Stan Lee Steve Ditko, or probably Jack Kirby was involved in there too, who knows somewhere. Hey brother, good to hear from you. Miss your content. Marco Panic, how are you doing? Marco Panic, C.I.A. 31. Oh my god, we got C.I.A here. Manichio, Marco, how are you doing? Please don't say bad words about the sinless son of God Jesus. No. If he was real, he was a phenomenal human being, right? What's up my man? Spiderman says to Martin. Okay, I'm gonna read some of the stuff. Scroll down faster. A nominee, Patrick, I don't know what that says. One of my great philosophical quotes is, quote, if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need. Felix, garden and a library, you also need love. Love, love is important. I have 500 pounds in my wallet. My philosophy is what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. I that's one I fully believe in. If you've been hit hard throughout your life and you're able to pick yourself up, you realize what that means. Okay, do you know what the ship of thesis paradox you chose? Ah, it rings a bell, but thesios. I don't, I don't recall. The brother's, brother's Kazmarov. Very good book. The brother's Kazmarov. Okay, we need to, if you're making a list of books, can you, after you make this list of books, can you post that list of books in our discord page? Under heavy, heavy books, I guess. That would be fantastic. So, Halim, is this, is this Russian? Dostovsky, Dostovsky, the brother's Kazmarov. It is the African philosophy of Ubuntu. Ubuntu is an idea present in African spirituality that says, quote, I am because we are, ah, or we are all connected. We cannot be ourselves without community. Health and faith are always lived out among others. An individual's well-being is caught up in the well-being of others. Cool. I can, I can, I can appreciate that for sure. One of the other, I've, I read this on a school website that I was prepping a student to get into, right? It was sort of a special school and stuff like this, and I'm working with them actually a little bit. And the quote that they have, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna say the quote, right? And they say it's an African proverb, but Africa's gigantic, right? I'm pretty sure the proverbs go all over place. So it could be equivalent to saying a Latin American proverb or something, and some proverbs go across countries, across regions, right? The Middle Eastern proverbs, Asian proverbs and stuff. But the proverb is this, the quote is this, if you want to go fast, go by yourself. If you want to go far, go together. And I think I'm paraphrasing that. All three, few weeks before the class go forward for you guys. For us, it went forward today. Oh, so class go forward different times in different places? Do we exist without thoughts then? If you can think you must exist, yes. Simply, simply being, hey, can you please break my bone? Oh, no. I have no desire to break anybody's bones. You don't know whether you are if you don't think. Yeah, I agree. Dante, how you doing? Hey man, it's Sunday time for relaxation. Nice. What's up? People saying cheers to each other. I'm gonna scroll down, scroll down. Yeah, I'll post it for sure. Awesome, Coolio. Thank you very much. God, how long have you written down so far? Nice, nice. I have four tubs of creatinine. I'm ready. The ship of, okay, so let's read this. The ship of Theseus paradox is essentially if you if you replace a part of a ship with a new part until every part has been replaced, it is the ship. Expanding further, if you take the old parts and build a new ship entirely out of the old parts, which ship is the real ship? Interesting question. This relates to human beings, by the way, our or our cells are what we're made from. Constantly replenish itself, right? I think there's, I looked at the stuff a long time ago, but basically everything in your body has been replaced within seven years, right? So when you're trying to heal from injury, may it be spiritual, may it be physical, may it be whatever it may be, right? When you're trying to heal or when you're trying to grow or when you're trying to get stronger, when you're trying to learn something new, stuff like this, keep in mind that if you mentally you're focused on what needs to be done, you're focused on your injury, you're focused on your well-being, you're focused on a new new thing you want to incorporate into your life, if you constantly focus on that and you realize that your molecules within your body are constantly changing and rejuvenating and you keep in mind the food that you consume gives you the minerals, the nutrients, is basically the building block of your being, being, your physical being, being recreated, then you can do tremendous things, right? So this links up to sort of the ship of Theseus, are we the same person after, I forget what the years is, I really, I think it's seven years, I think something like that, within seven years everything in your body has already changed up, right? So within seven years are you the still the same person because every molecule in your body has changed up? I don't know, unless you grow a gigantic beer and stays there, right? Are you the next Alan Watts? I don't think so. I'm a chicho. Fooking great. It's like saying was Terence McKenna the new Alan Watts, was Ram Dass and Alan Watts. I think Ram Dass and Alan Watts were together at the same time. So I think everybody's their own individual being, right? The gains can't suffer. That's an amazing quote. Yes, it is Russian. Okay, so that is a Russian book. In the history of philosophy, it is a very important book because it talks through a novel, through a novel. So an imaginary story which is pretty cool about the real consequences of Nietzschean revolutionary thought on moral ethics and nihilism. Oh really, that sounds fantastic, Alan. Our clocks went forward today. Yeah, I was sort of scrambling this morning, I was like, oh, wait a second. I was working a little bit. Oh, clocks kicked in an hour ahead. What are you? Alive? Everything else is negotiable. Yes, the paradox is about the ship, but philosophers tie it to people just like you said. Are we the same person seven years apart when all our cells are essentially new cells? I think so. I think we're the same being because our physical structure here is not who we are. Who we are is the entity that is controlling this thing. Am I my fingers? I experience this life through my fingers, right? I experience gravity acceleration through this body, but our gravity acceleration and time which is connected to acceleration and gravity is a byproduct of acceleration and gravity. Do I even experience time if I wasn't inside this physical body? Right? So I think we are, I think we just learn and grow. Selective chat reading. Moving on. Fooking great. Well, thanks for popping by. Selective chat reading, I wouldn't say that. I just scroll down as I go. Gains must come. This paradox is interesting with the subject of teleportation. Oh, yeah, very interesting. If you teleport yourself, which is basically destroying your body and recreating in another place in the exact same way, would it really be you or another you? If you don't believe in a soul and that everything is rather only materialist, then it doesn't matter. Otherwise it does matter. Interesting. The best part of an outbreak, if you can even have a best part of something like that, would be would be a break from university. Macro panic. Possibly. The downtime sucks though. Like if you're down and out for two months, trying to recoup from illness is not a good thing. Is there such things as true objectivity with regards to perception? Or do we organize particles in space to suit our perception based on memory? Good question. I think there are absolutes, truths, perspectives, but I think Terence McKenna, I heard Terence McKenna say this, that people, you know, multiple people could be sitting in the same room and the photons entering each person's eyes are different and each person might see something, something in that room might stand out for them better than the other person. And for sure, entheogens give you that experience in a big way, in a big way. Descartes tried to disprove his own existence and the only part of him existing that he couldn't disprove was that he was actually thinking, hence I think therefore I am. I'd wager even us being alive is negotiable as the definition of living has changed many times over the years. Viruses are a good example of being half-alive. Things, half-alive things because they reproduce and even have genetic material and move etc, but lack of a few minor life qualities. Is it life coolio or what do you call it, intelligent life, right? Being aware. So I think that the distinction would be if something is alive, is it aware that it's alive? So for us, we're aware that we are alive, right? Does a microbe, is that just a biological algorithm that has been put in place to run its course? Is it a sentient being? Something happened, therefore it exists. It's funny, before the stream I was on a YouTube rabbit hole of looking into people with DID, Disassociative Personality Disorder, and it is fascinating and makes me think about our consciousness of subject, subconsciousness being two separate entities. Disassociative Personality Disorder, I'm not familiar with it, I'm not sure what that is. I think this relates to abstract reasoning in some way. I think words are pointers to things, not the things themselves. Very well said, little bang-off. So a ship to me is not something kind of, not some kind of essence that lives inside big wooden structure, big wooden constructs that float on the water. I think our words are limited to the things that point to. And we place restrictions on what an entity is by associating with the word. I think that's why the ship paradox exists. Very cool. Sleepy waves, how you doing? By the way, a little bang-off. As I was reading this, it reminded me of Richard Feynman, little story that I've heard him say in one of his videos, where I'm not sure if he was walking with a son or he was walking with a kid, right? And the kid asked, I'm paraphrasing the story, right? I'll paraphrase without referencing anything. So a kid asks a father what a name of a bird was, right? And the father says, I don't know what the name of that bird is. And the kid says, oh, my friend's father knows the names of every bird. And the father turns to the kid and says, the word that that person knows is the word you call that bird in that specific language, in English. That bird has different names in different languages, right? So it's not the word that is important. It is what it is, what it's, as you say, pointing to. How does that bird feed? How does it live? Does it migrate? Does it have a nest here? Does it, what do you call it, bond for life? Or is it roaming? Like, so he went off on a little story like that. Richard Feynman had a lot of, he was a phenomenal philosopher by the way, almost forgot about the live stream. Oh no, sleepy waves. It just, coolio, a just questioning of the definition of being alive. I'm not the same person I was. Just, just 10 years ago, our existence is always in flux, yeah. But there are core essences, Martin, for sure, that still exist within you. Right? I'm in Home Depot buying stuff. Any recommendations? Oof, I don't know. They don't have comic books, so no. Chico, have you heard of Heson Rofi? No, he is a physicist working on creating a perpetual motion machine. He's credible because he was responsible for a patent that can do nuclear reactor. Oh really? I think there are a lot of people trying to create a perpetual motion machine. I don't, I've come across some stuff, people you know, saying, oh this is a perpetual motion machine, this is a perpetual motion machine, this is a perpetual motion machine. And you look down and you get into it and it's not really. So, I have more, I don't want to say faith. I think zero point energy has more credibility than perpetual motion machines. I think zero point energy has is more of a viable thing. Right? Consciousness is my definition of being alive. Our plant's conscious is a spider, is an ant. Yeah, I think alive is animated. Like for me, the linguistics words are incredible. I wish, well not wish, but maybe at some point in my life I'll go study linguistics, but like animal animated, animal animated. Animals are alive. Plants are alive as far as I'm concerned. Fungi are alive. Are bacteria alive? They're alive. Are they conscious? Don't know. Are plants conscious? I would say yes, really. Okay, being around plants, raising plants, maybe I'm projecting, but plants grow more lush, they're healthier in a in a loving environment. If there's music, if you talk to them. Right? So, to me, we're all one. Everything is just one being, really. Right? Everything else is just parts of it. Right? So, finger, hand, arm, body, torso, whatever. Right? Consciousness is my definition. Okay, I'm going to scroll down a little bit. I'm going to skip anything. Only nouns represent things though. How does the ship paradox deal with verbs and adjectives? Oh, English. English. Such a difficult language. Oh, I'm going to read this. Yes, Alicath. Alicath, thanks for bringing that up. However, the degree of control and variability and dimensions is limited, is limited species to species. What did Alicath say before? Is a spider? So, Alicath was saying of our plants conscious is a spider, is a spider, is an ant. Only nouns represent things though. How does the ship paradox deal with that? Okay. Okay, DID. This is associative paradox, something. DID used to be called multiple, oh multiple personality disorder. That's what it is. Okay. It stems from severe and possibly ongoing trauma at a young age. At around age two to six years old, our personalities coalesce into who we are. But people with DID don't experience that and their brain segments itself into distinct separate altars. The altars can have different names, genders, sexual preferences, etc, but are separated by amnesia from the other altars. Okay, so multiple personality disorder is called disassociative. I gotta read that. What was it? I'm just scrolling up trying to find it. Disassociative personality disorder. So, why did he call it I instead of P? Why isn't it called D-P? D-P? I guess that's harder. D-P-D instead of DID. Can you perceive without using the past to paint the present, perceiving what actually is without labels, judgments or prejudices? The past is important, I think. If you perceive without referencing the past, then I think there are people who have no short-term memory, like they forget everything instantly. Right? I don't think that's a good way of being. Sentient life is being able to understand self as being separate from other. A lot of the animals that we consume as food are actually sentient. I agree with that. Sentient life is being able to understand self as being separate from other. That's an interesting definition, Jenna. It's interesting you guys talk about this. I have depersonalization and derealization, which basically means you feel completely detached from reality and from your body. You will have you will have out-of-body experiences which made me have existential panic attacks. Wow! Which is also something that people experience with entheogens as well. There's a lot of fear, panic associated with it. Doesn't perpetual motion break the law of thermodynamics? It does. Coolio. It does. So perpetual motion is more problematic in my book anyway. Zero point energy is not because dark matter and dark energy. So zero point energy basically says take a cubic meter of space and you can produce an infinite amount of energy from a cubic meter of space. I'm paraphrasing. I read up on this a long time ago. I once saved the spider from my sink. It would die due to the water weight. The spider stopped trying to run while padded it down with tissue. Was the spider aware of my help by instinct or conscious thinking? Martin, good question. By the way, there's a saying in Armenian we have it and I think Farsi, Persian, have it as well. I like spiders personally, right? And I never intentionally try to kill a spider in the house. And there's a saying that says don't kill spiders in your house because it brings bad luck. So if you find the spider try to capture it and put it outside. Just superstition. I once saved the spider. So what are we talking about? Philosophy, perhaps. But physicists are looking for innovative and redesigned so-called laws. By the way, Kulio and Marco, good point. We don't have to create a perpetual machine. We just have to get closer and closer to it which is just efficiency. So just imagine creating an efficient system that uses that only loses 1% of energy from its use, right? That'd be amazing. Plants are conscious but possibly a different form of conscious that we cannot fully understand as humans. I agree, spider, right? I agree. But they're amazing to be around. Lurkey is back. Hello, Lurkey is back. Nice. Same with an animal, yeah? That bird story is interesting. Richard Feynman once answered a reporter who asked him, quote, how do you, how do magnets work? End quote. Feynman basically answered him by telling him it's an incredibly complex question but uncovering all the complexities of the things at play and I agree with plants. And Richard Feynman, one other thing he mentioned when reporters and different people ask questions and stuff. And this is incredibly important where he said when people ask questions, right, oh how does this work? He has to look at the person and this is one thing you do as someone with me when I'm teaching mathematics, right? When a student of mine asks me, you know, how does this work? Why do we do this? I have to really personalize my answer, right? If I work with the student for a fair bit of time, I know what they know and where they are in their learning process, right? What type of information they have. But if a random person comes up to me and says, hey, how does this work or can you explain this? First I have to ask him a few questions to figure out where they are, right? Especially in regards to politics, economics and stuff like this. When someone, I've talked with people regarding politics, economics, you know, I'm just using that as an example because it's very present, right? When they ask me, oh, how does, you know, why is there conflict in Syria? You have to go back and figure out what they know, right? Do they know any of the history? Do they know the Iran-Iraq war? Do they understand that Syria supported Iran and was against the war being fought? Do they know about the bonds being created there? Do they know about energy supply, pipeline? Do they know about this stuff? If they are unaware of it, then you have to start the dialogue. You have to prep them, build up to it, right? That comes into play with Richard Feynman when he was asked, you know, how does this work? He basically stated that in a different way in a more condensed way than I did. He basically said, before I answer a question, I have to say where do we start, right? People have tried to answer the question, do plants feel pain? Which is related to consciousness in some way, because consciousness would need some kind of central nervous system to get information. They are sensitive to some shocks, though, for sure. Okay, I'm going to scroll down, guys. I've missed a lot of chat, so I'm going to go down to the bottom. Okay, let me just do this. By the way, let me show you what I brought while I scroll down. If there's anything directed towards me, please let me know. This guy here is peanut butter and honey mixed together. I've been eating this a lot for some reason. It's a great snack. It's like, take peanut butter and I take honey and I mush it around together and it's basically sweet peanut butter. And it's very good. I just sort of munch on this for like, I won't eat all this in a day, a couple of days, two or three days, sometimes a day if I got serious munchies going on. I believe the spider was thinking. I really believe that. I think so too. I think animals, all animals think insects, everything. Everything alive thinks, in my opinion, anyway. And I keep spiders in the house. They keep the other insects at bay. Yeah. Ali Cat, I love spiders, man. Oh, I missed a lot of good chat, but I'm going to scroll down. That way I stay up to the chat. There's a theory that common fears stem from our ancestors experiencing pain or death from that, from that source of fear. Fear of spiders, for example, would stem from an ancestor of yours being bitten and killed by spider. We share DNA with all of our ancestors. So there is some scientific theories that think it's possible we could have dormant ancestral memories, basically the plot of the Assassin's Creed games. Cool. And Kulio, I agree with that as well. We've seen it in animals. When animals are, we're very weak when we're first born. We need taking care of for a number of years. You watch a lot of animal shows. A deer has a fawn. A kid comes out. The deer eats its placebo, placebo, whatever it is, because it's got full of nutrients, and helps the little fawn to stand up. And within minutes, the fawn is running. Right? It's part of survival. That's memory. I'm on mobile for the first time. Let's go, Gijo. Avoid. How are you doing? How is life? Yeah, there's really cool evidence based on epigenetics showing that fear is very hereditary. Cool. Mask of Raven. Hello, hello. I believe it is possible. I would argue cats and dogs think. I think all animals think. Really? Horses are... Horses are amazing. Was another physicist I've... Chocobelio Lolino. Was another physicist I've been learning about. He seems to be on a way to solving the grandfather paradox. What's the grandfather paradox? Is that the time travel one? Marco? Where if you go back and alter... Is that the grandfather paradox? Do you know what controls the size of insects? I don't know, Martin. What controls the size of insects? I entered the channel as you said. I love spiders. Nice. Psycho. You get my follow from that alone. One of my guidelines is a spider. Nice. Psycho Pete. How are you doing? I love spiders. Does that count? Haha. Spiderman. Nice. Indeed it does. Pretty sure it's surface area to volume ratio problem. Grandfather paradox? No. Oh, the insects. What controls the size of an insect? Pretty sure it's surface area to volume ratio problem. I hate small spiders. Yet my roommate has two tarantulas and I love them. But seeing a small one creeps me out. Oh, a convoy. Pla center. Pla center. I don't know what that means, Martin. Don't forget to throw any philosophy book recommendations. Yeah, for sure. Any chat. I'll be writing all of them down and posting them in the discord after the stream. Only got one so far. Okay. What's your definition of think? Oof. Mask of Raven. What's my definition of thinking? I guess that definition, one of the definition of thinking would be if you're not just living at the moment, which goes against the philosophy of many people. Many philosophies where they say live in the present. Live at the moment. Right? But if you're only living at the moment, so for example, if I took a sip of tea, I put the tea down and my eye goes away and comes back to the tea, I would have forgotten that I took a sip of tea and I would continue to take a sip of tea. It's like the chicken, right? From what I've heard, I don't know if this is true or not, but chickens will eat until they die. If you have chickens, let me know. If you put all the food in front of the chickens that they can eat, supposedly they'll eat it until they die. I'm not absent sure on that, but so think for me would be if you can take the past and the future, you can live at the moment, but also have a handle on the past and have an appreciation for what's coming in the future if you're not just thinking about instant, instant, instant. Maybe it is indeed the time travel one. That's the grandfather paradox. Cool. They have no lungs. Insects have no lungs. What thoughts you have on stoicism? I have to slayr stoicism. I'm assuming it's supposed to say. I forget what that means. If you could tell us what it means, instead of me looking it up, that'd be fantastic. I know the word I just can't associate it with what the thought process is. Basic survival instinct for fear, anything different and assumed danger, but hopefully we have the instinct to differentiate between perceived and actual danger, which is one of the problems violent that comes into play in our society. People have a hard time distinguishing between perceived fear and actual fear, and that's because of propaganda, programming, social structures, education. People fear other cultures because they're told to fear other cultures. People fear a certain look because they've been traumatized into fearing that look. Sukubayelea Lonino was getting up, experienced with pieces of lead and examining them in different dimensions. Oh really? What kind of spider? Drancula? Is it not waste of energy to not actively be contributing to the reduction of suffering on the planet? Do you think most people are not taking the times seriously enough and living in microcosms? If we all shifted our focus, could we not make drastic and necessary changes much faster? For sure, then 100%. That's the problem. Centralized powers have been manipulating our collective for a very long time. The wars would be one of the examples. Through propaganda, through censorship, through education, or indoctrination, governments have been able to convince masses of people, their citizens, to want to go wage wars on behalf of corporations. So they've been using the collective power of our society to do ill. Is there examples of collective power of society doing good? 100%. The insect size, their legs, they can only support so much weight if the same principle on why rhinos have stubby, thick legs. Is it alica? Legs? Determine the size of an insect? What do you call it? We have those daddy long legs, spiders in my part of the world. And by the way, daddy long legs from what I understand, their venom is very toxic, but they just can't penetrate our skin. So daddy long legs have this little body, but their legs are gigantic, and orb spiders are gigantic big bodies, and their legs are medium-sized, I guess. My understanding is that it's actually impossible to not live in the moment. If you could live in a different moment, you'd be a time traveler. I think we don't just live in the moment. I think we live in the past, present, and future at the same time. Like who we are is a byproduct of what we experienced in the past. What we are doing is a partial result or partial setup of where we want to be in the future. We just happen to be in the present doing this. That's the way I brought all the information I've read throughout my life to work together. Live in the past, present, and future at the same moment, but make sure you don't just live in one either the past or the future. You have to sort of glue the past and the past and the future together with the present. So the present is sort of the mortar that binds the two. That implies imposing your will on others who you are. Okay I'm going to scroll down again, gang. Jason White, anything that's directed towards me? I'll have a read through it. There's a lot of conversations going on here. That's super cool. Hey, new viewer follower here. What's the point in forcing users to follow to participate in chat? Do you have to follow to participate in chat? I didn't know that. That's a twitch thing. Isn't that getting more followers than you deserve? I'm not sure. I'm following you without knowing if I'll like your stream or not. I might sure, but I might not as well. Let users have a choice. Jason, I don't know. I think this is a twitch thing. It's a default setting and I just took the default setting. I don't know how else it works. Okay, do you learn more, to lean towards more philosophy or biology for answers to questions about how humans behave? I think it's both, really. Philosophy has a lot to do with it. Indoctrination has a lot to do with it. So Mr. Puppy is a good question. The kicker is biology definitely plays a part in who we are, what our beliefs are, how we perceive the world. Take the extreme case. If you're born with some kind of disability, I guess. So you have a sever spinal cord and you're in a wheelchair. Let's assume you didn't get enough oxygen when you were in the womb and you're born with... I forget what it's called. It's a horrendous thing, right? And the people's mind is fully intact. They are some of the most brilliant people on the planet, but their bodies just they're in pain and they have muscle spasms and stuff like this. They do a lot of pool therapy and whatnot, right? That's going to affect your perception of the world and our society, so biology has a part to play in it, right? So I think it's not one or the other. The book Sapiens believes the evolutionary difference between Homo sapiens and other animals is our ability to plan for the future and think about the past. I wonder if you could test if animals could plan or reflect. Coolio, good question. I'm trying to think back on any... I've watched a lot of animal documentaries in the past and read on animals and stuff. Do they think... I don't know. I can't recall anything that really focused on that. Changing their water stresses me out, man. The spider thing, the tarantulas. Very true. Okay, I'm going down, scrolling down. Spiders have no lungs that controls their size. They don't breathe in the conventional way, Martin. Wow. So if water is submerged, I'm assuming they must take an oxygen through their shell, right? Is that the way it works? Thought it was the account of oxygen and atmosphere determines why insects are small. This is an interesting question. I've never had thought about this. Quantum. Is it possible because it's their shells? Like human bodies, the bones can only take so much, right? That limits our size. Omen entomologists, the size of an insect is due to the oxygen in the air. That's why millions of years ago there were huge insects. There was about 10% more O2 in the air. Really? Really? So if you breed insects and create a lab with high oxygen content and you breed insects, does that mean after a few generations, because if there's DNA, memory and DNA, the size of your thing, after a few generations or a few years or a few decades, you could have gigantic insects? Like a gigantic daddy long leg? That is frightening. I love spiders, but a gigantic daddy long leg would freak the living daylights out of me. Time is not made out of lines. It's made out of circles. Wow, that's amazing. I live in a very multicultural area. My pub is full of whites, blacks, Asians. Nice. They are so very much the same in a universal environment. Yeah, Martin, that's one thing I've noticed as well. We're all the same. We're all the same. That's the kicker, right? And it's not age-related either. Right? We're all the same. We all desire certain things. Squirrels choose where to put their stashes of nuts and even plant fake ones to throw off other squirrels. Also planting for spring. Truth enough for me. Intelligence. Chichu. Oh, and thinking about the past and the present. Ah, very good. Ding. Very good. Ding, bobber. Chichu, where can I post a picture of my tarantula on your discord? Mods. Where should we put it? Should be environment. Environment is environment. Maybe we should create a new folder. How about putting it in general bits? Put it in general. Sharing a picture of your tarantula. But maybe we should post create a folder that says animal pictures? Animal pics? Or sharing pics? Sharing pics? Well, that could be dangerous sharing pics. Yeah, and that's not like sharing pics. Who knows what we get, right? What do you think of fundamental attribution error? I don't know a predatory. How are you doing? I don't know what that refers to. Fundamental attribution error? You have to be more specific. I'm not sure what that refers to. I suddenly see a horror movie. I suddenly see a horror movie. I would love to conduct that experiment. Man, if I had the funds and oxygen to size it, fill the huge room with oxygen and grow some spiders and see where it takes you. The Ouroboros theory of time, cyclic time, which is in a lot of ancient philosophies and religions, goes against the fundamental principle in physics, which has never been debunked yet. Even in quantum mechanics from what I know, the principle of causality. Does it? The Ouroboros theory of time, cyclic time, which is in a lot of ancient philosophies and religions, goes against the fundamental principle in physics, which has never been debunked yet. Even in quantum mechanics from what I know, the principle of causality. Hmm, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I know the principle of causality. I have to read upon it again to really pinpoint it. But the cyclic nature of time, I would have to follow that up. I should be taking notes here, but hopefully this will come back to me and look into it. I just googled and apparently there was a study on breeding larger insects using dragonflies raised in an oxygen-rich environment. Oh, what happened, Kulio? Oh, I know of Shukubere Lodap. One day I woke up to a spider the size of a baseball mitt on my wall. Unreal. He was a very intelligent man, not sure if he is still alive. So this person, Shukubere, oh man, that is Shukubeli Lolino. Was he Italian? Oh, I have some good picks for sharing. Nice. Waban, how are you doing? A psychopath quote. When you go out into the woods and you look at trees and see all these different trees and some of them are bent and some of them are straight and some of them are evergreens and some of them are whatever and you look at the trees and you allow it. You see why it is the way it is. You sort of understand that it didn't get enough light and so it turned that way and you don't get all emotional about it. You just allow it. You appreciate the tree. Cool. Who set that, by the way, psychopeat? The minute you get near humans, you lose all that and you are constantly saying, quote, you are to this or I'm to this. The judgment, the judgment mind comes in and so I practice turning people into trees, which means appreciating them just the way they are. Haha, psychopeat. They have done it. They have done it, eh? Quantum of the oxygen. By the way, psychopeat. This is a Ram Dass quote. Nice. I think you will like. Ah, nice. Thanks psychopeat. By the way, since you brought this up, Rush, the band Rush, Canadian band Rush has a song called Trees and it is brilliant. It is brilliant and it's sort of along the same lines as what you quoted here from Ram Dass, I'm guessing. Oh, I would have to move to get the albums out to show you the trees and read the lyrics, but if you do Rush, Trees and lyrics and it's a beautiful song, the oak trees, it's fantastic. Very much along this theme. What a horror movie or the real science on an insect. System of a Down. You look like one of the guys from Chopsui by Older. System of a Down. Actually, search tankian is older than me, I think. By the way, if you want a System of a Down, just do Chicho, System of a Down. I wrote an article on System of a Down about their music, sort of a review in 2006 and I put out a couple of videos talking about System of a Down. They have made huge dragonflies that are about 15% larger. It's because insects have lungs that look like tubes. These tubes have trouble transporting oxygen to a higher surface area. Wow. He looks like the Zen master from Kill Bill. Don't poison me. Pop out your eye if you talk too much. That, what do you call it, when he popped out the eye of the girl? Trees don't have higher intelligence, free thought choice. Some people do not make good choices and hurt a lot of others. Do you accept them as is? Some people make wrong decisions. I made mistakes before. And I disagree with saying that trees don't have higher intelligence. They may have a different type of higher intelligence than we do. Really, I don't think as human beings, we're too absolute with our knowledge. We think we know how something functions, but we may not know. That's been proven again and again and again and again and again and again and again throughout history. Our knowledge is limited. We just have to be open to different thoughts. There's a positive relationship between oxygen and body mass. There are a few simple equations to describe this. You might like it. Cool. If you want to post them, if you're on our Discord, if you can post anything mathematics related in our math folder, regarding this, that'd be fantastic. Or science. Science would be great. Actually, oh awesome. I give the song and I say, oh, psychope, you'll love it. It's about trees complaining about other trees taking the light because they're big about the oak trees and they get together. It's phenomenal. Really. Neil Perts lyrics were absolutely brilliant. Thank you for that information. I heard the no lungs somewhere. Now I understand correct, which is why I come here. Awesome. Sharing of information here is amazing. Psychopeat. Are you Armenian indeed? You look like it. As the other user pointed out, you're similar to Serge. Yeah. Armenian ancestry, right? Born in Iran. Most of my life, West Coast Canada. So my essence is my philosophy is very much influenced by Pacific Northwest mentality. And of course, Armenian ancestry and Iranian history. Born there and stuff. And food and drink and all that jazz. What are you drinking? I thought kombucha or honey. Tea. Looks weird. It's tea sweetened with honey. We just got a new batch of honey, by the way. I'm going to take pics and show you guys. But there's going to be no jarring honey video this time. We couldn't get the big buckets. So they only, they only had jars available. The bees got hit with the colony collapse disorder. A lot of bees have been taken out. So honey supply is a lot lower. And it costs us way more to get the honey. Weren't you going to do an ASMR cover up chop suey? It's still there, right? I haven't got around to it. I haven't got around to doing lyrics of once we go a little bit lighter, just because just present day life stuff has been coming up, right? I spent a fair bit of time focusing on the COVID-19 coronavirus, looking at the data and stuff like this. So I started putting out some videos there, doing a few other things. But I wouldn't mind. I actually looked it up. Someone else did an ASMR version of chop suey. I looked at it. It was okay. It was pretty good, actually. So some kind of ASMR version of a system with down song would be good. I don't know if chop suey would be it. Maybe it's something else. If you send me a reminder again, I'll slowly make it up to Q, right? Okay. I'm scrolling down a little bit again. Sending this again because it got lost in the comments a lot. Ciclic time doesn't break causality necessarily, but it implies that present choices not only affect present and future, but the past as well. Okay, let me read that again. Ciclic time doesn't break causality necessarily, but it implies that present choices not only affect present and future, but the past as well. So your choices now affect the past. Interesting. Hi, everyone. Hello, Dolphin. How are you doing? Parev. Parev. Psycho Pete. Ich pesses. Love em. Du ich pesses. Now I have lower rings, two tower on my mind. Is there a link to the discord? Not the biggest tech guy. Yeah, hold on. If we do discord, that should have popped out our discord link. Oh, someone already did it. Oh, Nightbot did it. Cool. Talking trees who have business with Esgard. If you understand that people are some of their parts though, and some of those parts are their choices, aren't you connecting further with them? I think as long as you remain factual with your rationality and avoid possibly inaccurate generalizations, judgment can be very useful to you or anyone. And I also don't think you can avoid doing it, but you can do it well and improve your execution. Yeah, I agree with Robin. I mean, we need to generalize. Generalization is a self-preservation mechanism that has evolved into our core being. It's part of staying alive. It's part of evolution. That's what generalization is. We just have to make sure we don't generalize ourselves into irrelevance, right? Generalization is fine, and then it's like the fight or flight instinct that we have, but we have to keep it in check. That's my personal take on it. What are the main characters of the Pacific Northwest mentality? One of them is that it's got the highest concentration of magic mushrooms in the world. So there's a huge entheogen influence in the Pacific Northwest. Huge. More so than I think a lot of other parts of the world. So there's a psychedelic feel here. Sorry, Chicho. I've been in and out of Dancha. No worries, Spider-Man. Everything's going pretty good. Everyone's having a pretty good time, I think, so far. I believe so anyway. I hope so anyway. I was walking down the street with a first to mind, and nature, by the way. Nature is a huge part of the Pacific Northwest. We live in a temperate rainforest here, right? So it's a rainforest. Lots of nature. Lots and lots of nature. Lots of water. There is lots of in season, lots of local fruits and vegetables that you can eat. There aren't very many animals, predatory animals. There is, what's it called, the recluse spider here that we have that's very poisonous. But as long as you're not going to the attic and putting your hand into unknown places, you're okay. They don't come out. They don't walk around. It's not like Australia. And the only other two main, one of them is the bears, black bears and grizzlies. Grizzlies are more dangerous, but they don't come down south this much. There are black bears which are basically harmless if you leave them alone, right? And don't get between the black bear and the mother and the cubs, right? The only main predator we have here that sometimes attacks humans is the cougar, right? Aside from that, it's one of the most safest places. I'm just going off on the Pacific Northwest. Safest places to be if you want to explore nature, go swimming in the ocean, go swimming in the lake, go for hikes, and layer on top of that with the entheogens, you get a feel for what's going on. And one of the things we have here is the indigenous population. Indigenous communities are very structured here. So there's a huge, very prevalent and very important indigenous cultural feel that connects people to nature, right? So there's a lot of people here that are very much connected with our surrounding area, okay? They have a sense of being not owners of land, but caretakers of land, right? There's a sort of mentality here that says we are transient through this earth. So take care of the earth, because it will be here much longer than we will, right? I was walking down the street with first to my left and a busy road to my right. I thought about how organic is infinitely complex, where as what we have created as humans is very cut and dry in comparison. For example, every tree is unique, but all spoons are basically the same. We need to appreciate nature more as we come from it and we are it. Get your monkey butts back to nature. Ding, agreed with you there. And I wouldn't say all spoons are the same. There's minor differences between the spoons, right? Everybody has their own favorite spoon or favorite cup that they drink from and stuff, right? I once saw an ASMR cover of the entire Do Little Album by the Pixies. Really? Oh, forest. That's what you meant. First with a forest to my left. Okay, cool. I think Cloud Atlas now. Really, Cloud Atlas? No. Okay, I'm going to scroll down. Really, some people are confused, but no Astroians. Adding Cloud Atlas to that list. Cloud Atlas, I've never read it. I know Neil Perth Rush 2112 was sort of after he read that, it was sort of influenced by that. And later on, Neil Perth said Cloud Atlas was something he read when he was young and influenced on, but it doesn't really affect them anymore. It's something that a lot of hardcore capitalists use to justify capitalism. Libertarians, some libertarians used to justify libertarianism. Some people used to justify whatever. So people take it in gazillion different ways. I've never read it. It's brilliant. Some people find it confusing, but not Astroians. Cloud Atlas, yeah? So, Martin, you say Cloud Atlas, brilliant? Worth reading? Yeah, I don't believe in coincidences. Journalizations are basically patterns. Only being backwards can someone think that recognizing good patterns can't be useful, but worse is harmful. Yeah. I generalize big time, by the way. You probably noticed. Also, Pete says, psychopeat. Also, you can train the mind to avoid judgment. I highly recommend Marshall Rosenberg's book, Nonviolent Communication. It provides some amazing insight on how language has been developed to create patterns of thought that lead to disconnect, judgment being one of them. Really? That's cool. Coolie, I hope you got it. The past affects the future, and the future mirrors the past. Cool. He also provides a model to practice to help train your mind to avoid judgment, as well as identify when others are using language of the sort. It is a phenomenal tool for connecting. Really, Pete? Thank you for the book recommendation. By the way, contemporary philosophers, Bill Hicks, Terence McKenna, Robert Anton Wilson. These are three people that I've mentioned before. I don't know if you call them contemporary because they're all dead now, right? But those are three people that have affected my philosophy, my outlook on life in a big way, right? Isn't that basically like trying to fake your own empathy for others? Waban asks. No, it's recognizing how language is a tool that presents genuine empathy for others. Hmm, interesting. Coolie, Chico, what do you think about God in a strictly philosophical sense? In other words, what is the essence of God to you from a non-religious standpoint? I think we are part of God. I think we are God. I think we control our own destiny. I think this animated being that we occupy, this matter that we are occupying, it is exactly that. We are in control of this machine, right? And we have a certain amount of time to experience this existence. From there, I don't know where we go. I don't know where we've come from, and I don't care, okay, to a certain degree, right? I know that my existence here is for a purpose. My purpose, I have sort of stumbled upon by being open to experiencing life in different ways and through circumstances and being knocked around with life, right? And having to either learn and grow or wither away and die, right? So there's a lot to it. It's not necessarily, I don't care about where I've come from and where I'm going. I've reconciled. Is that the right word to use it? I've sort of, throughout my life, I've gone through, you know, obviously I'm most likely older than most of you here, some maybe, but I'm younger than Serge Tankian. So I sort of figured out for myself how I want to exist, interact with life here, as long as I'm here. And that's good enough for me, right? As Neilpert would say, that's life enough for me, right? That's life enough for me, right? Mind you, there was a lot of conflict until I reached this point, right? Both internal and external conflict, right? And how to use the tool to connect genuinely once you realize how it is used. That's regarding the way of thinking. Yeah, I get what you mean. Different people use a language with different intentions and it doesn't always collect the way they want. Are the indigenous people Inuit? No, not Inuit. Inuit is further up north. They're native. Give the book a read. It is some amazing insights and it is very easy to digest, completely logical. Okay, nice, man. My favorite cup broke. Oh no, too much use. Oh no, Waban. This is no spoon. I'm going to look into that Japanese glue type deal. Oh, you want to glue it back together. That's so much you loved it. Okay, I'm scrolling down gang. I missed a lot of chat. My apologies, but I'm going to scroll down to a place where I can see a chicho. I'm going to address that. How old were you when you first adopted this principle of thinking? How old was I? I don't know if there was an exact moment. Well, no, there was an exact moment. It would have been 20 years ago. Okay, it would have been at the turn of the century, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, during those three-year periods, and the catalyst that got me to that state of being into really bringing everything together that I had learned, that had all the experiences, knowledge that I accumulated up to that point. So 20 years ago, it would have been 30, right? So in my early 30s, all of those experiences that I had gone through in my life during that three-year period really came together. And the catalyst that brought everything together were entheogens. Not that it was my first time experiencing entheogens, but specifically, I started experimenting with salvia divinorum, and that really brought it all together. Okay, only Moz and Chicho can post links to this chat, but feel free to post some of the scores. Yeah, thanks for mentioning that, Kulio. Hello, sir. Hello, ghost doggy. How are you doing? We're just live. We're just one God until we live up, L-V-I-L. I don't know what L-V-L stands for. Live, live like one God until we live up and get the buff. Let's have a, what's your age call out? Yeah, what's your age, people? Kulio says 251. I take more cynical view of religion. That was supposed to be an exclamation point. Haha. Not 25. Oh, you're 25. Not 125. Thanks, Chicho. I have a fun time listening to your responses. Responses to it. Have a great day. Peace. Peace thing. Hope you have a fantastic Sunday. 46. Chicho, have five years on me, I believe. Yeah, 51. Right on. I'm your elder. You must listen to me. Haha. Was your life affected by a lot by 9-11? Was my life affected a lot by 9-11? I think everyone's lives was affected a lot by 9-11. I don't think my life was affected as much as most people by 9-11 because I was aware politically what was going on in the world. My life was affected by 9-11 for one reason. Okay. Should we even share this info? Damn. Okay, I'll just mention this. Should I mention it? Let me read some more comments. We'll just pass along from it, right? Enthusiasts have provided me with some profound insights and healing. I'm happy to hear you have found value in them as well. For sure, psychopath. 100%. Level up. 22 years. Nice. Have you ever combined cannabis and magic? I think most people have. Or, okay, let me phrase. Many people in my neck of the woods have. For sure. I am 32, 20, 38, 27. Awesome. Haha. Yes, I'll learn Chicho. Haha. Chicho says, read your comic books. I have done psilocybin mushrooms three times before, but they only had a profound effect once. After that experience in reading the book, How to Change Your Mind by Michelle Paulin, I've gotten very interested in trying some other enthusions, some point in the future. 9-11 ruined my birthday. Oh, Martin, are you September 11th? No, really? You're a very wise elder. Thanks, thanks for the trust, Spider-Man. I like asking the right questions, Waban says. Same bro. I'm the 12th. Oh no, September 12th. Oh no. Waban, your question. Same bro. That sounded kind of rude. I'm not saying you're older, nah, doesn't make a difference. Man, really, there's a saying in Armenian that says, I hope your hair will turn white. It means, may you live to be a ripe old age, healthy ripe old age, right? So, getting older, one thing, initially everybody, initially when you're getting older, you're like, oh, I'm getting older. You get aches and pains and stuff like this. You can't do some of the things you used to do. You think twice about doing some of the things you used to do. But then as you get older, you realize, man, I'm older. This is phenomenal. You know more. You apply it better. You filter out the noise in your life. You've tasted enough crap to realize you don't want to sample crap anymore. You just want to sample exquisite things from now on, right? You improve your life as you get older. Really appreciate that. Don't focus on what you are losing. Focus on what you are gaining and getting older becomes more and more brilliant, okay? Just from someone who's not, you know, I haven't even passed, I haven't hit that 52 yet that makes you an elder based on the Mayan calendar, the long count, right? So, I'm not even 52 yet. And that's what I've learned so far. I'm looking forward to seeing what comes in the future, right? I've recently found myself reading a lot of philosophy and overthinking about how our modern society operates. It can sometimes get really depressing because I also find myself thinking about a lot of rubbish. Yeah. And that's a pitfall of waking up, right? Once you realize that our society is completely absurd, it can be depressing at first, but then you realize what our society isn't what the mainstream is pushing on everyone. It's the other stuff. Can you guys hear the mandolin? Our neighbors are playing mandolin. What's with the beer choice? I don't know. What do you mean, auto-dying? Yeah, sadly, 11 September 1973. Oh no, same day as the chili. I was about to say that. It's the chili. Martin, damn. What a day to pick to be born during major revolutions. Hopefully, you know, three times is not the charm, right? Hopefully, we don't get a major other event happening. Hopefully, an amazing event happens on the next important September 11th, right? I'm 25 and it's been one year since I stopped thinking that I learned everything and was always right. I wasn't learning anything new. Thought on myself as a better human than other people. Gosh, I was toxic. Void, brilliant discovery when you were 25. I didn't discover this until my, like I said, 30s, early 30s, right? I was arrogant enough to think I knew a lot and I was super smart and stuff. And then I realized, man, I don't know nothing, right? Or I don't know anything. Nothing that was a double negative, right? I realized that there's no way I can understand everything. That's really what was the revolution, right? Sort of that not revelation, not rubbish, a revelation that really made me appreciate what's happening was that we're constantly going to be hopefully learning until we take our last breath because there's absolutely no way we can understand everything and get to the end of the road, right? Just live in the moment, appreciate what we have and what we're learning, how we're experiencing. Look forward to the future and learn from the past. That to me is the essence of life, really. I'm September 22nd, so if 9-11 had happened a few weeks later, I'd be in trouble. Cool, Leo. Atu, Mokkachu, I don't know what that is. Wow, that's awesome, Spider-Man says. I don't think I'm always right and it's probably better to think you're wrong at first every time, but after a while I tend to go with the assumption that my general instinct in a topic is correct. Otherwise, how can I live with such an enormous ego? Yeah, for sure. Self-preservation instinct, for sure, but when it comes to understanding how certain events have unfolded, certain truths that we may know, then we have to question that. Then I've got major physicists, math, like scientists that say this, oh, we know this. They're like, no, this is a model that we have of how this thing works, and as far as we know, this model is correct based on all the assumptions we have and what we're looking for. There might be stuff that we don't know that are there that we haven't even began to think about, right? It's the 100th monkey philosophy experiment. I put out a little video. If you do a search for Chicho and 100th monkey, there's an experiment with the monkeys and stuff like that. I gave it a different perspective on it to a certain degree to that thing. So the biggest sign of maturity is having a continuous growth mindset. It's sort of a new phenomenon, though, because a lot of the older generations, not all thankfully, tend to think they are done learning at a certain point. Pursuit of knowledge is a long life, lifelong activity. 100% cool, you're well said. I would love to have a discussion over a cup of tea with you one day, Chicho. I think that's what we're doing right now, Psycho Pete. It feels like I have met a relative that I never realized I had also. It's a pleasure to meet you, Psycho Pete. We can hear it. Nice. And they sing. I was burned on the Pearl Harbor date. Pearl Harbor July? Was it July? No, it wasn't July. When was it? I forget the date of Pearl Harbor. I'm experiencing the getting old thing already with 28. Been working on the holes and gardens since 14. The house and gardens since 14. The wood chopping and gardening already brings back pain. Oh, hey, ho Chicho. Yeah. Bear face, man. How are you doing? Bear face, man, working on the house and gardening and chopping wood. The lumberjack life. The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know. That's the perfect quote, right? Talk about events that changed the fate of history. USA entering World War II. I'm 20 and I got really stoned one day and came to a real awakening on how much rubbish my generation holds to such a high value and really devalue certain principles that make us better people. Honestly, I do think I have some of that arrogance. You guys were talking about peers. For sure. We all do. All youth. All youth does. Like, really, it's part of our indoctrination, our education system, right? That's what they breathe into us, right? They force a jet down our throats and we come out thinking that way, right? And one of the reasons they're doing it is because they want to take advantage of youth, right? How many 40 plus year olds do you know would sign away their life to go wage war somewhere across the ocean, right? How many 18 year olds would do the same? Huge number of discrepancy, right? Just imagine the United States. You can't drink until you're 21, but you can go join a war when you're 18. The absurdity of it all, right? Would you ever consider doing a Chicho fan meetup one day? For sure, Kulia. I feel like the discussion we have, we could have in person would be amazing indeed. Or you could see fist fights everywhere and mobs going out, burning down the city. Your plant is reaching out to read a book. Indeed, indeed. I rotate this thing when I'm doing a live stream. It's facing the other way usually. I do a little rotation. I like this thing. So it's part of our live streams right now. It's a pretty good birthday date here. Summer is here. Everyone is going off to the beach for vacation. Nice. I'm a grad student and the great thing I learned in science is that we know very little and are all grasping at straws or everyone is feeling an elephant in the dark and everyone only has a little bit of information. Hopefully one day we can turn, oops, turn on the lights and see the elephant. Hopefully, that's what I hope as well. Aha, it's getting closer every day. I probably avoid a chicho in real life. I can imagine the smoke coming out of that room though. Nice. We'd fill up on fruit liquors and delicious food. Yeah, maybe we'd do a barbecue, right? I'm trying to figure out which one it is going for. I love your look. Thanks, Barry Carter. That's my permanent look. What is your plant's favorite philosophy, chicho? What is my plant's favorite philosophy? My plant's favorite philosophy. What's it reaching for? That's all medical stuff. What's this one reaching for? Let's see. This one, Chomsky Reader. Well, it's basically going for a good leisure time in the techno sphere. Chomsky Reader. It is actually pointing towards a lot of philosophy points. Chicho, I try to block out as much rubbish from social media. What principles should someone be focusing on at a 20 years old? Chiha. Can I call you chiha? Te chiha? Te chiha? I would say avoid getting into rants online with social media, either on Twitter or any of the other things. The hate, the banter, avoid that. Start creating original content if you're into that. Consume original content, not mashups to a certain degree. Mashups are okay, but hit up the sources of content that you're consuming. If people are talking about how bad this article is, read that article. If people are talking about how good this article is, read that article. Hit up the original sources of content. Don't go through a filter of people deciphering information for you. That is one of the biggest problems we face in our society because people don't look at the source material. They look at the filtered material and the filtered material might be losing a huge part of its core thesis. For example, in physics, we have Maxwell's equations. There's five equations. I believe there's five equations of Maxwell's equations that talk about electromagnetic and magnetic methods. They're very useful. Everybody uses them. However, Maxwell didn't just come up with five equations. Maxwell, I believe, had 20 equations and those 20 equations are condensed down to five. Now, if you want to understand how the world works around us, beyond more than just using Maxwell's equations to do calculations for instruments, if you want to have a philosophical idea of what makes the world go around, you have to look at those original equations because those original equations have parts in them, which the five Maxwell equations that people use have people have cut out because they say, oh, they're not really relevant or if you round things off, they don't come into play. But they do come into play if you want to know, understand existence. So go to the source material and stop watching corporate news, corporate propaganda. It's not news, corporate propaganda. Stop watching anything coming out of corporate propaganda that includes the BBC, the CNN, the CBC and all this stuff. 99% of it cut out. The people they bring, the pundas they bring to discuss things, they're usually paid hacks. So cut out mainstream corporate propaganda. Blind from homemade booze. First, at the meetup, we would eat some pomegranate seeds, then do some math, then read some comic books. Sounds like a great meetup, Spider-Man. You're a professor, not a grad student, right? Who's this? Barry Carter. For me, I'm not a professor or a grad student. I think of discussion, discussion evening over discord, voice chat might be nice. How many people can you get on discord voice? It's going for the medical textbooks to avoid plant coronavirus. Focus on financing and learning how to utilize your money to make money, being smart with your wealth. Being smart with your funds. Yes, I agree. Be smart with your funds. I wouldn't say learn how to utilize your money to make more money. I disagree with that. I would say figure out what the places are where you want to invest. That hopefully puts you in the forefront. If you want to learn about something, some kind of system, take the time, take the money and learn that system. I would, however, say, build up a buffer. Make sure you have enough funds available to you where if you wanted to take off for two years and reevaluate your life, you could not have to work and earn an income and read books and grow, right? And then you deplete your reserves and then you have to build up your reserves. So it's very cyclic. So here's one bit of advice. Look at life as a cyclic function. You have your ups, you have your downs. When you're up, make sure you still think about the down times, right? So you build a buffer. When you're down, don't get completely totally depressed and give up on life because the high times are coming, right? Life is cyclic. Okay. Really appreciate that. Life is cyclic. Be wise with your money as well, of course, right? Psychopath says, I recommend you learn to get in tune with your true and higher self, meditation, exercise, eating healthy and all great habits to focus on integrating. This I 100% agree with. Eat healthier, right? Stay physical, stay active, right? Read books, right? Don't just read sound bites, read books, right? Read essays, watch the lectures, educate yourself, learn mathematics. Like once you come out of high school in Canada, United States, your education just begins. Okay? Consider high school to be jail. You just got out of jail. You've been let loose into the world. How do you want to interact with it, right? Build enough funds to make sure you don't have to be a slave to go to work every day to get that paycheck every two weeks to be able to function. Okay? There are times when that's the case, right? You might deplete your reserves when you're young, especially where you have to go back to work no matter what, right? Is that time in the text? Jose Alcuales, indeed it is. Time in the techno sphere. An important book. This was a very important book I read. I don't agree with everything in it. Okay? Really, I don't agree with everything in it, especially in regards to the structure of the earth and whatnot. But I did take notes in this. Like, I did take notes in this. And one thing this book did for me. Okay? And this is, this is one of the most important things about reading philosophy, right? Most philosophies, most texts, even Robert Anton Wilson's texts, Terrence McKenna's texts, a lot of books tell you it's not enough just to read a philosophy. You have to actually do the experiments, do the exercises which the philosophical books tell you about, right? So through time, time in the techno sphere, one major thing I got out of that, I got out of this book, right? And I've mentioned this before. In the book, it talks about how we measure time about the Gregorian calendar, the 12 month calendar, and about the 12 hour, the 24 hour clock. And I won't get into the details of it. But one thing that Jose Alcuales, time in the techno sphere, said, he basically said, remove all physical clocks, the 12 hour clock from your line of sight, right? Only check the time when you need to know what time it is. So don't have anything in your living space that through the periphery, it constantly tells you what time it is. Because what that does, that eliminates your natural instinct to know what time it is, right? Your human clock, right? So as soon as you remove those clocks, your internal clock kicks in, right? And all of a sudden, your sense of anxiety, I don't want to say completely disappears, but it reduces dramatically, right? You no longer feel like you're in a rush to do things. You're no longer under the clock, right? So one exercise that I have done, one of the exercises of a few that I've done in my life, one exercise that I've done and it's still part of my life, I don't have any physical clocks in my living space that tell me constantly what time it is. The only time that I need to know what time it is that is visible is in the kitchen on the, when I'm cooking things, because when you're cooking, when you're making pastries or baking something or whatever it is, right? You need to know what time it is. And that's the only place. And anytime I want to know what time it is, I either check the computer clock, right? I scroll down and pops up or I go to the thing. So remove physical clocks. And it was weird, right? It took me a little bit of time to adjust, but once you adjusted all of a sudden, my internal clock kicked in. It was just like, wow, incredible. Anxiety of whatever anxiety I was feeling when I was under the clock sort of disappeared over time, right? Important. I sort of went off on that. So I missed a lot of chat. So I'm going to come down to the chat again. Oh man, there's a lot here. Yeah, if you won't start making children, you're probably going to, okay, I'm going to allow the some comment got held back, Robin. Our apologies. The thing kicks it in. Okay, I'm scrolling all the way down gang. Okay, just because I missed a few comments. I missed a lot. There's no way I would catch up. Nice catch. By the way, you saw the Jose R. Grell as time and attack in the techno sphere, or I mentioned it actually. So I guess. Me, EP1729. Hey, Chih-chou. I'm an undergraduate student doing math and physics. Nice. My work takes up a lot of my time, I can imagine, and it can be very draining at times. I can imagine. Do you have any advice on how to balance work and life? For me, go for walks, take breaks. For me, when I was doing math and physics, I was doing undergraduate, I was basically doing the same thing you did. I did geophysics and mathematics, right? Geophysics major, math minor. But a few things I did. I made sure I had solo time by myself. Not just studying, but I would go to movies by myself. Like really, back in the day, this was in the late 1980s, early 1990s, I would, you know, we barely had console games at home, right? So I would go to the arcade by myself. I would go to the arcade and just chill at the arcade. I started serious comic book collecting during that period. Okay, so pick up a hobby that is totally disconnected from physics and math, right? So you need some kind of stimulation other than physics and math in your life. Okay, you need some kind of passion that is disconnected from physics and mathematics. For me, it was comic books, movies. I read sci-fi books, right? I didn't have a TV for the first couple of years. I was, I got into hardcore math and physics studying, right? So I read a lot of books, went to the arcade, went to the movies, went for walks, played sports, I joined a soccer team, I did some jujutsu, saw sports and stuff like this. I could recommend that, right? And, you know, there was some interaction with other students as well. For the first couple of years, though, I pretty much stayed solo. I had, you know, I had plenty of friends when I was in high school and I just wanted to be alone in large part and learn and grow. And that's what I ended up doing. I hope that's helpful. What do you think about the matrix theory? Or what about it, the matrix theory, that we live in a matrix simulation or it doesn't necessarily have to be a simulation, I guess? I mean, could you create a servile person that isn't sentient just to avoid the moral dilemma? Isn't sci-fi books have those for organ transplantation, growing clones and stuff? Have you read the whole library? All of this, no. Some of these are my partner's books, the medical stuff. But I've read a lot of this. And this isn't all my whole library. I got books in other places too. But no, I'm like people, you guys, you might have the perception that I'm a very well-read person in regards to books. I've read some books, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not an extremely well-read person in regards to books. I've read a lot of articles over the years, like in-depth articles and essays. So I've read way more like seriously in-depth articles, essays, analyses on things. And I've read my fair share of books. A lot of these are comic books. This whole rule is comic books by the way, graphic novels. And they're amazing to read. I highly recommend some of the most philosophical, important, scientific books that you will ever read in your life that probably contain more accurate history than a lot of history books out there. So graphic novels are legitimate books. And I've read a lot of those. A lot of those, right? I remember our case. I remember the Atari 2600. Yeah, me too. Yes, but what if you extended their abilities without extending their existence? I'm gonna scroll down, see if there's anything. Jiu-jitsu changed my life. It sounds cliche, but it's true. Yeah, it's important. Very important. Certain disciplines are extremely important. Unfortunately, my work revolves around what times my theaters get out so I can clean them. That does sound really cool. Yeah, Spiderman, if you're doing work, for sure, you need to. When I did geophysics, I was under the clock, right? You need to know what time it is. But in your living space, eliminate the clock, right? Work is different than living, right? Can I just express my appreciation for the fact that you mentioned your extra books like a pen? I got books in other places. I'm gonna allow that. Didn't mean for it to come out that way, but it did. Okay, I had to allow that, by the way. Conversation. I'm just scrolling down, gang. There's a lot of conversation being discussed between people. Peanut butter and honey. And it's very strong, by the way, this thing. Very good. You can add little chocolate chips in there and you got chocolate chip peanut butter cookie or squishy stuff. Barry says, I believe we do live in a matrix. We live in a matrix. If you accept quantum mechanics and that things only exist when observed. Possibly. But is this your complete existence, Barry? Or is this a ride? Is your existence at this moment this thing that you are? Or is this you manipulating this? If this is you manipulating this, then you can think of it as a game that you're in, right? But that doesn't take away from the game, right? Enjoy the game. Don't think about the person controlling or the entity controlling this. Just live this. What do I think of gaming? I think gaming is amazing. What's there to think about? I've recommended, but you can't. A lot of people, I know a lot of people that are addicted to gaming. So it's not gaming is amazing. Addiction is bad, right? If you sacrifice everything for gaming, you're addicted to gaming. Stop it. There are many amazing things to do in life. Why would you sacrifice all other amazing things in life to do just this one thing in life? That's destructive, not a good thing. Coolio says, I've recommended this game on Chicho's Discord several times, but due to my discussion with Barry, I will highly recommend this game. The Talos Principle, again, goes deeply into the themes we were just discussing. Awesome. And by the way, Coolio, keep on bringing it up, right? If it's an amazing game you live, for sure recommend it again. At some point, I've got to get back into gaming and I'm not sure what I'm going to play. Actually, I do. I want to play some old school games again. It's never that simple. In my living space, good idea. In your living space, Spiderman, for sure. Remove all visible clocks, right? Glad I saw this and recommended. Seems like an interesting place to hang out. Glad to have you. Death to Tyrants. Yes. We're having some sort of library and all I can say is that I won't pick up the ladder to grab the top ones. And I read three of them. I couldn't make sense out of that sentence. My entire existence exists only in my mind. But in only your mind? So, Barry Carter, is your central nervous system part of your existence? You have spinal fluid going all the way down your spine that goes all the way to your brain again, connecting up your brain and transmitting information. So, if you only exist here, what about the rest of you, right? That is connected to your mind, right? So, you can't just only exist in your mind. The only human being that I know of that you could say shared as much information as you could that would be Stephen Hawkins, right? So, Stephen Hawkins, I would say was one of the, there are others, of course, but he was one of the people that was wheelchair bound, disconnected from the physical to a certain degree and lived in his mind and was able to come up with the principle of Hawking radiation and whatnot, right? So, I don't think it's accurate to say we only live in our minds. That's, I think that's inaccurate. Our bodies are a part of us, right? What would you advise to a child or a teen when he, his or her father goes off, off stream like towards another woman and goes off? Does a man with an ego come back to his family? I'm not sure what that means. So, a parent abandoning the family? Is that what you mean? Hale? So, Hale, so Hale Lou, 213. I think we all, you know, here's the one thing about being a parent. When people decide to be a parent, some people, a lot of people become a parent accidentally, but as far as I'm concerned, if you choose to become a parent, you're taking on the responsibility to take care of and raise an intelligent, well-balanced human being, right? So, if you abandon your, your responsibilities, that does say something about you. And unfortunately, there's sort of effects associated with that, right? That people that you abandon are going to be hurt and they're going to be, they might have to go through some turmoil until they can figure out what life is about for them. What would I say to them? I don't know what I would say to them. Really? I don't know. I think it really depends on the person. There's a lot of evidence pointing towards this reality being a simulation of sorts. That's not to take away the importance of the physical realm as it is linked to the realms outside it. Yeah, Pete, the psychopath, I agree with you. A lot of people have come up and said, oh, this is just a simulation and stuff like that. I go, this isn't just a simulation, even if it is a simulation, go for the ride, play the game, right? The Matrix 3 could be interpreted as multiple dimensions as well. We perceive our dimensions with our senses and our consciousness, but what aspect of our realities or dimensions are we missing out on because of the limitations of our senses? Good question, Kulio. And here's one thing that hasn't come up during the stream yet, the dream realm, right? If we take an average, let's say you're supposed to sleep eight hours a day, right? Some people can function on four or five. Some people need nine or 10, right? But let's assume on average, eight hours a day, a third of our lives is spent dreaming. I'm not sure how much of that is REM, the deep dream state, right? So eight hours of our lives, eight hours a day, a third of our lives is spent in the dream realm. Let's say two hours of that or three hours of that is spent in the dream realm. That is real, right? Just because it's dreaming, it doesn't mean it's not real. That is a part of who we are, how we interact with the world. It helps us to problem solve, it helps us to heal. It is, some would argue, the most important aspect of our lives, right? So just because it's in the dreaming, it doesn't mean it's not real. It is real, right? So dreaming should be a part of any conversation when we're talking about philosophy, existence, and life as well. I just wanted to throw that out there. Sorry, I'm not sure if it's related to what Kulio said. It just came up while I was reading Kulio's comment. What do you think about God and our other saints? There are great people in the world who are right now and have been throughout history. I don't believe in centralized religious institutions. They are all corrupt. As far as God goes, there's multiple definitions of God. Or maybe every choice we or anyone makes takes us to other parallel universes could be. I like the parallel universe theory. I like the membrane theory, the truth. I have a question from someone who someone wholly uneducated in philosophy, high school failure, so bear me, bear with me. Just because you dropped out of high school, it doesn't mean you're uneducated in philosophy. You're here talking philosophy. That is philosophy. I have hyper-focused my entire life on thinking over acting, but would you agree that eventually there comes a point where knowing too much essentially bogs you down and slows, disables you from acting when preoccupied with thinking first always? I think I butchered reading that comment, but Lotus, I agree with you. This is the same principle I've talked to people about in the past. I think it's come up before. It's like reading a lot, being very informed about things. That is a black hole if you're not also sharing the information, right? So basically hoarding is ridiculous. It's stupid. It's detrimental. It'll destroy your life. May it be hoarding material objects, or may it be hoarding information, may it be hoarding money, may it be hoarding anything, right? Even thinking too much is hoarding if you're not sharing. So the way you complete the loop, complete the connection, it's not a sign of being a wise person, being a smart person. If you know a lot, if you're not sharing, if you're taking any information, you have to also be sharing information, right? Because the way it is right now, people think hoarding is a great thing. Like even with wealth, people become really wealthy and what they do is they try to close the door on competition coming up because they want to acquire more wealth, make it harder for people to reach their level, right? I think that's a flawed system. That is one of the main flaws in our current political economic system. The system that should really exist is we should be helping others along. When we learn something, pass on the info, because once you become a node, that is the essence of the internet, by the way, once you become a node, a free flowing node where all of a sudden may it be finances, may it be information, may it be experiences, this stuff is flowing through you, then you're going to be exposed to a lot more than just becoming a node that just consumes, consumes. At some point you're going to explode, right? Taos principles appears to be non-free, otherwise I'd do it. No. Okay, I'm going to scroll down. Oh my god, there's so much chat. I've totally messed up on a lot of chats. Sorry, gang. I'm going down. Okay, I scrolled all the way down, gang. If there's anything directed towards me, please let me know. Meepi. I think there are theories about dreaming as the right hemisphere passing on information to the left, stuff that we sense throughout the day, but which do not make it to our conscious awareness. It could be. I've looked into the dreaming a fair bit, especially in regards to experimenting with the entheogens. The dreaming is a huge part of it, right? Interpreting. I've woken up many times with a solution to a problem I had. I would wake up. I had notepads beside me. I write down notes. Even a lot of the videos that I've created over the years, we have 800 plus videos on YouTube, right? And slowly we'll load all those on BitShoot as well, right? And we have, I don't know, a couple of hundred on, not a couple of hundred. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know how many we got on BitShoot, right? But all those videos I've been creating for the last 13 years, some of those videos came about when I woke up from a dream realizing how I want to present the mathematical concept or some other type of concept. And I would get up and I would lay down the work on my notepads, right? Or write about it on the computer. A lot of the articles I wrote, I would wake up in the middle of the night with a sentence paragraph that I wanted in there, right? So the dreaming is ridiculously important. Ridiculously important. Yeah, that sort of culture really doesn't stand to scrutiny with today's society's logic and standards. Waban says, yo, yo, yo, Ritius, how are you doing? I am a firm believer that that it's only a matter of time until that whole thing dies down. It's a process. I'm missing the conversation. So religion is definitely on the decline. But spirituality on the rise, right? What uses a God that doesn't care about us? I don't think there is a God, a being the optimum word there. Ah, God? No, true. I meant the Aramaic God, okay? Fun. Are you aware of the hypno-Jajic state, hypno-Jijic state, the altered state you enter prior to falling asleep? Yeah. Yeah. Many great minds would set up systems so they could keep entirely that state to get insights or creative ideas. Ah, psychopath? Yes. I don't consider myself a great mind. I'm a happy mind, right? But I've done that exact thing that you're mentioning, which is called hypno-Jajic state, right? It's like waking dreams. You enter a waking dream state to a certain degree and you function within that state if that's what we're talking about. Just before you complete it, sometimes, sometimes it's a waking dream and you're functioning, you're doing things. Sometimes it's before you go into REM sleep. Sometimes it's right after you come out of REM sleep. You can definitely be on that boundary, maintain that boundary for an extended period of time. Taco operator, hi guys, long time no see. Taco, you changed your name. Is this the taco we had before? I almost died this year in the ICU and I just faded to black. Oh wow, it was peaceful, but I don't think there's anything spiritual out there. Why out there? You are a spiritual being. I am anyway. That's why I look at myself. I would really do this for a good day. How are you guys doing? Taco doing good. I don't believe in God, but I believe in thinking energy for lack of better definition. That's a good way of thinking about it, Martin. Chico, have you read any books on the philosophy of the role of suffering in life or why it exists? Suffering, yes, C.S. Lewis, Pain. He had a book. I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it. Oh, Mere Christianity talks about a little. This is a good book as well with C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity. And he has a chapter. I think this is the chapter in Pain, or I think I read one of his books on pain, and it was an important book to me in the universe. No, this isn't the book, but C.S. Lewis is the author that I've read the most of, right? But there is a book that he wrote regarding pain and suffering, and pretty much it was a good book. It was a good book. I don't really care to take conversations towards the topic of God, though. There's no point to me. Yeah, I agree with Waban, right? I have never felt it, and I don't see evidence of it anywhere. I felt it before, but that was flawed logic, right? But organized religion is 100% of the manifestation of those feelings people have outwardly. Yeah, organized religion, no, bad. Yes, basically, that stream of consciousness you enter before you slip off into sleep. Yeah, the Arabic God is the most unlikely character of all I don't know. Do you ascribe to a collective consciousness to a certain degree? Yes, I believe that all great ideas are pulled, so to speak, from this sort of collective consciousness that has the experiences of all humanity. It's one of the few sorts of non-scientific views I hold, but then again, what is science? Kulio, I agree with you, and I believe in the collective consciousness, the collective knowledge, right? That's why I think copyright laws and patent laws are so detrimental to our societies and to our well-being and innovation, right? Because it's all collective, right? It's all collective. Everything was a remix of something else in large part, okay? You can extend that state for sure. It's one of my favorite altered states. Yeah, amazing altered state, Pete. Amazing. Yes, I'm taco operator. You're taco operator. I changed my name for people to see it easier. Oh, really? I didn't mind taco operator before, the double dash, turning people into sacks of flour for looking back at their homes and families being destroyed. Oh, you're talking about the Sodom and Gomorrah, yeah, crazy. Some people connect that up with historical events. Some people say it was actually a nuclear explosion that went off, and when the people look back, they got hit by the wave, they went blind and died, right? So you can connect that up. I sent my CV to a comic book. I hope they accept me. It's like a dream job. Oh, really? He sent to a comic book store. Yeah, that'd be great. Talk to Spider-Man. He's not Spider-Man, Vex. Vex, one of the people that comes here, and he's one of the first people that, you know, was here when I came on Twitch. He's been live streaming on Twitch. He does gaming. He works in a comic book store. He manages a comic book store in New York. My dream job is a oxymoron. Oh, God, I'm going to scroll down, gang. One last question before I bounce for a while. How do you stop yourself from starting to feel disgust, hatred towards the ignorant? For example, the racist morons dragging the rest of the UK, kicking and screaming backwards in time with stuff like Brexit. Excuse my blatantly biased language. Also, your cadence is V-soothing. Very soothing. Thanks. I noticed, just to let you know, straight up, I was pro-Brexit, and it has nothing to do with being racist, ignorant, or anything like this. It has to do with decentralization. So you can't put everyone that is pro-Brexit. I don't have skin in the game. I live in Canada. You guys are in the UK, so take whatever my thoughts are with huge, gigantic grain of salt. But just don't categorize people that it's like saying, everyone who's a Christian is an idiot. You can't do that, right? Everyone who's Muslim is this. Everyone who's this is this. Everyone who voted for Brexit is not a racist, ignorant person. Maybe they felt the pain of decentralization, of power, right? And you would, okay? So you can't group everyone together that way. As for your legit question, right? How do you stop yourself from feeling, starting to feel disgust, hatred towards the ignorant? Disgust is a legitimate thing to feel, okay? I, everybody has that. I have that in my surroundings as well, where I come across people that are completely ignorant, uneducated regarding certain topics that they support with their heart and soul, such as war, right? I've come across people that are pro-war, and I look at them, I just complete disgust, but I don't hate them. I feel sorry for them, because they're completely uninformed, and when they're uninformed and they support war, I don't consider them to be really alive anymore, because they've been duped into thinking that killing people across the ocean is a good way of being, right? So I feel disgust, but I don't feel hatred towards them. I feel, I feel sorry for them. That's one way you turn hatred into sorrow. Turn, because when you feel sorry for someone, you have more empathy towards them, right? So you have to feel empathetic towards them. Feeling disgust by their actions, that's a legitimate feeling as far as I'm concerned, right? I'm disgusted by those who want to wage war, right? Oh, uptime, we're already past two hours. Wow, wow, wow. Thanks for that, Martin. Gang, I think we're gonna call the stream. Sorry if I missed a lot of chat, there was a lot of stuff going on, a lot of discussion, but we'll call the stream on this one, okay? This is all well and good, but I don't know how to reconcile this with the fact that people are now starving under a conservative right-wing government. So is it a conservative right-wing government, does that fault, or people's choices? There's a lot of stuff going on. Citizens are being deported and our economy is being stripped for parts and sold to the highest bidder, and that's taking place everywhere, Lotus. For example, in Alberta, Canada, the government there, they didn't plan ahead. It's one of the most corrupt governments that I know of. I lived in Alberta as well, right? It's all about oil and sands and giving subsidies, oil and sands, gas industries and looting the coffers of the province, right? They're putting parks up for sale, right? They've cut back healthcare, they're closing hospitals. Why are they doing this? Because of mismanagement, because of corruption, right? So it's centralization power, which is the main enemy. It's not people's beliefs in how they want to live, right? I'm as much as the forming at the mouth anarchist as the next guy, but I'll take the centralization under regime. I don't trust thousands of innocents dying for no good reason. I wouldn't take centralization of power. It's the centralization of power that took the UK to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, like, essentialized power that sent citizens of the UK to go die in foreign lands, right? And to kill in foreign lands. No, corrupt centralized power is one of the most destructive forces out there, okay? Awesome stream, awesome stream. Fun stream, gang. Thank you for the conversations. Thank you for discussion. Thank you for the recommendations. I'd like to go to one of those Christian rallies where the priest goes near your face and yells, God is willing you and rubs your head. I would just say I only pause the scene inside me to party. It's cider time, cider time. It's walk time for me, gang. Okay, guys, thank you for the stream. Kulio, thank you for the recommendation for us, suggestion for us to do a philosophy stream. It was fantastic. I think it was a great discussion to be had. Martin, Dante, Spiderman, thank you for taking care of business. Thank you for the follows, gang. Thank you for the subs. I wasn't able to catch everything. I was trying to stay up with the chat and going off on rants and stuff like this. And thank you for the participation. What we'll do is we'll do another stream next weekend, two streams on the weekend, most likely. And once next week kicks in, most likely we're going to do streams on a more regular basis. I'm going to be on sort of spring break for my students, most of my students. There's a few students I'm going to work with. So I'll try to schedule in a few more streams. And during that spring break, comic book readings coming up. Okay, I've already shot one of the videos. I got to shoot the other three we're going to do. I'm going to try to edit them and upload the comic book streams as well, plus some other stuff. Okay, two hours usually enough. It is enough, gang. I learned a lot and everyone had great insights. I have a decent list of books and media recommendations I will post on this court. Awesome. Thank you very much, Kulio. Have a great Sunday, everyone. We'll talk on the next stream. Bye for now.