 Good morning. I'm Maura Marks. I'm the director of the DPLA secretariat at the Berkman Center at Harvard and Before we continue with the program. We have another special announcement to make this morning This one is about interoperability, which we've heard a lot about this morning And it's really about the potential of the DPLA to be a player in a truly global information infrastructure and to that end First thanks to Dame Lynne Brinley for her words this morning But now we've asked Jill Cousins the director of the Europeana Foundation to actually make the announcement. So Jill long walk long walk I make this announcement actually on behalf of both Europeana and the DPLA. I feel very very very privileged to be here at the launch of the DPLA It's a wonderful vision And with the energy that all of you have and you are putting into it. It's going to happen At Europeana, we've done some of the things that you are starting and you're very welcome to reuse all of that as it will help us move forward and So it helped both of us. I'd like Certainly the DPLA not to reinvent the wheel, but to move the cart forward Add another few other wheels, gain some traction and some speed, learn from our mistakes But make something bigger and better For all of us to share We already share a common goal and to make which is to make the riches of libraries, museums, archives and Audiovisual collections available free of charge to everyone And in this mission, we've set out some principles to follow between the DPLA and Europeana The first is to make our systems and data interoperable The second is to promote openness and open access through policies and action on content data and metadata and The third is to develop collaboratively Where we can so beginning with an interoperable data model Actually, if you can say that you're doing well And I'd very much like you to start with the Europeana data model I can't tell you the pain and years that have gone into it already It's based on linked open data, and it's a beginning to share our source codes and to cooperatively collect Build our collections together and to prove that this is not just talk We are starting by doing something very concrete that showcases the content and links our continents It's a virtual exhibition about the migration of Europeans to America The DPLA and Europeana will demonstrate the potential of their combined Collections by digitizing and making freely available material about the journey from the old world to the new This exhibition will include texts and images about the experiences of the uprooted as they abandoned their homes To seek a new life thousands of miles across a treacherous ocean Letters photographs and official records open up unfamiliar views into the harsh world Inhabited by Europeans from the shuttle communities of Russia to the peasant villages of Ireland and Equally vivid testimonies illustrate the culture shock and the hard lot of the immigrants after their arrival Everyone in the United States Including the Amur Indians descend from immigrants and nearly everyone in Europe has some connection with migration Either within Europe itself or across the ocean All will be invited to stroll digitally through this rich exhibition and most importantly To interact and participate as users adding their own stories and memorabilia. Thank you No, we're so excited to begin this work and just a word of thanks to professor Robert Darden for all the work He's done building ties with our other European partners So thank you Bob and now back to your regular scheduled Programming I give you Maureen Sullivan the president-elect of the American Library Association Good morning. I have the privilege here this morning of moderating a panel of these distinguished Individuals each of whom has been invited to from their own perspective address the question What is the DP LA and particularly what we've asked them to do is to share some of their vision of what the DP LA might be but also to offer their perspectives on the promise of the DP LA The format is each of them has been invited to speak to us for five to seven minutes And I will move things along to ensure that that happens to allow a sufficient amount of time for their engagement with you And I also want to acknowledge as was done previously that we have an audience that goes beyond this room That is there are individuals throughout the country who are Being a part of this but who are more in a listening mode Those of you who are here in this room have the opportunity to actually engage the way you saw earlier today We're going to go in order and they're seated in the order in which they're listed in the program And we're going to begin with John Palfrey from all of you now fully recognized as the chair of the DP LA John Maureen, thank you so much and before I do the kind of official. What is the DP LA five minutes? I want to acknowledge Tony marks the incoming president new president of the New York Public Library Who's joined us as well a great partner in this effort one that hasn't yet been mentioned But I think will be a huge piece of this going forward Tony welcome, and thank you So what is the DP LA? This has been a complex and occasionally vexing question The honest answer is we're building it This is a bridge that we're building as we walk over it in virtual terms and we have really by design Saw it to build it together rather than to say here's a particular vision of what it must be But I think in this sort of straightforward way I want to describe five aspects of what the DP LA will be and we can work further on what the concrete aspects of each of those Will be but let me just hit them all they're up on the screen And these are the areas where we know after 18 months of our planning phase and then moving forward We will have gotten some work done and that we will aim for further work from there We've talked a lot about content. That's in the middle of this list And I think that is clearly part of the DP LA we will be digitizing materials We'll be doing with the European and this wonderful Initial project around immigration a series of other demonstrations I hope will work with the Internet Archive and Hathi trust and lots of others New York Public Library to digitize content I don't think the idea is that it will be one big massive digital library in one place, but rather a collection of collections and It's something we'll have to figure out how preservation happens over time and so forth but I think even from the perspective of low-hanging fruit if we were as Institutions that together spend millions and millions of dollars digitizing every year to do it in a common way based on a common Standard or platform maybe if funders like NEH and others as they fund these discrete efforts We're to ask people to use a common format and then to share make sure that a copy of it We're shared with the DP LA or a partner organization like Hathi trust I think we could do a huge amount just there by making the existing collections and content much more much more Interoperable and and common in common formats But I think it's much more than just the the digitized materials Starting from the top of the list is code. So very importantly I think the DP LA is computer code that we are developing We've made a commitment to do things as much as possible on an open source basis The DP LA will be a set of code. I think of it sort of like source forage for libraries in the sense. There are many Ways in which others are working on this this effort, but the DP LA itself will be the Repository of a bunch of code that anybody can take and reuse in many different ways So I could imagine that a future would be a DP LA website where people could come and access the content But also a bunch of code that a public library might take and repurpose for its own use so that it could curate Collections perhaps one of our partner libraries Darian public library Just as an example might take that code repurpose it for the Darian public library website bring some of the content That we've got in our collection and and curate it locally A second thing that's part of that same mix is the metadata Dame Lynn Brindley mentioned this before I think we in the information business know that it's one thing to digitize to scan materials It's quite another to make it findable and useful and this really is in many ways the special special sauce of what? Librarians and information professionals know how to do so well But it's something that I think we haven't structured right yet in the world of libraries information I think information in the form of metadata has been too locked up So I think we're going to make a real contribution by having open access to metadata very broadly through this project project And we've heard earlier today about efforts to make link open data and to make Information more broadly available in this form. So the DP LA is and will be metadata available in an open way There's a pilot project called library cloud, which you may hear reference later Which is a version of what this could look like Going down the list to the tools and services This is the part where I think it's most playful and exciting in some respects the DP LA has the possibility Not just to be kind of a common platform and code But also a series of tools and services that libraries and others could use to make This information richer and more available and to bring people in to allow social media to mix with us I see my friends who work on extra murals Which I think would be an example of tools and services that might ride on top of a common platform One of my favorite examples of this, where's Emily gore Emily gore here I'm so pleased to meet Emily gore because she coined the term scan a bago I love the idea of the scan a bago and I'm totally committed to having scan a bagos at least one running around the country With a scanner in the back and going to local historical societies going to the Georgetown County Library going to the Pratt Library in Baltimore and saying bring Out your scans. Let's do this together. There's material out here that hasn't yet been put in this Wonderful cloud that we're developing and metadata around it. I could see this totally working with Carl's law.gov We've got to get scan a bagos out there and I think that's part of what the DP LA could be And I think we've got an extra metadata up on this slide So I'm going to put the real thing which is supposed to be there, which is community And I think the DP LA is us. We are the DP LA. It is an amazing rich occasionally cranky Occasionally contentious community But a community that I think has a public spirit behind it and will work together As institutions and as individuals hopefully always with common respect and a common goal in minds To build something that no one institution could build on its own I think when we heard from the Library of Congress and the Smithsonian and national archives and others there is no one place that could do the DP LA as well as we all can There are many people who have come to me and said you will fail because this tent is too big And I say that's wrong. I say that if we structure this right and we actually have goodwill and we trust one another and we work hard The visions that have been made possible by wikipedia the itf the web itself I think we can do the same thing in the library world and that to me is what the DP LA is And now we have an opportunity to hear from Peggy Rudd who leads the texas state library and archives commission And also serves on the steering committee for the DP LA Peggy Thanks, Maury. I feel like driving the scanabaga would be a job for a retired librarian I want to be in the back. Can I be in the back? You can be in the back, John I think it's particularly important that we are here at the national archives For this plenary session because this is in fact national archives month So we are celebrating all of the archives held At the national state and local level throughout our country And we do have our own Declaration of independence that's on display in austin texas right now and it is digitized and available on the web I think so many of us have been focusing on content as well We should because we want to know what is this thing called the DP LA going to look like But it also has to do with the tools that john was talking about yesterday and one of the planning sessions that Carla and I were hosting Someone said They want to see somebody walking down the sidewalk and they've got their cell phone And they've got a question and they say to themselves. I'm gonna DP LA it Okay, just the way they say google it now That's what we want to see and if we take is our guiding principle something that Chairman leech said earlier, which I really Just loved and that is the infrastructure of ideas If we take as our guiding principle that all people in this country Should have access to this infrastructure of ideas Then one of the issues we've got to deal with in addition to all the things that john said The metadata the content the tools and services and the community Not just the community of those that are going to be involved in building the DP LA But those that are going to be involved in sharing what is built We've got to think about access And I think that many of us who represent public libraries even though I am a state librarian We do a lot of work as do state libraries all across this country With the infrastructure of more than 16,000 public library outlets in this country We have a built infrastructure And we're very proud of that built infrastructure And we think that in terms of access for people who are whose lives are going to be improved By having access to the DP LA We are going to be the digital literacy core those of us in public libraries I think about the work that's being done in the you media centers in chicago at the chicago public library I think about the work that carla hayden is doing at enid pratt right here in neighboring baltimore I think about the uh youth centers that um have been going for uh a decade now with del Foundation funding in austin texas at the public library there Libraries public libraries are going to be the institutions that ensure That not only can people discover things that they can efficiently and effectively discover things in this wonderful thing That we are all going to build together But they also are going to help people Evaluate what it is they find they're going to ensure that what they find is relevant to Whatever their purpose is and help them Get the most out of the digital public library of america I think we are all committed to digital inclusion And we understand that this is a major challenge. It's a challenge now In our country and public libraries have risen to that challenge and I think they will continue to do so But I would submit That what we build is going to be grand and glorious many of us have already Built components that are going to enrich the digital public library of america And we are all committed to bringing this to fruition But we must remember that there are Those in our country that will need our special assistance for a whole variety of reasons To make sure that they can use this tremendous resource that we are all committing to today Thank you. Thank you And next we have an opportunity to hear from bruster kale with the internet archive We've got a tie on bruster When in rome I grew up in a paper america I believe we are in the transition of building the digital america and this project Is a key component to it I believe the archivist is right if it's not online it doesn't exist And a lot of the materials that are necessary to bring up Well, the next generation and frankly inform our own generation Are locked up in our physical paper libraries and not accessible. This isn't good enough And this project can be a major step towards fixing this there are two Digital library projects that are now Excuse me Operating in the united states And they're fairly large scale and there are many many smaller ones. There's a 10 million book Collection that's offered as a subscription service But there are some contractual litigation limitations on that collection. There's a smaller collection About two million books that's now available For free public access for the for the public domain materials and a free public lending library Which we find very an interesting approach towards moving forward, but let's step back. What are we actually looking for? What do we want? Um, and if we sort of take this as a a new starting point, um, where where are we really trying to get to? Well, let's make sure that we have at the end of the day lots and lots of publishers that are paid Let's make sure there are lots of authors lots of booksellers Many many libraries that are not all responsible into central control that there's a A diversity of every one of these many to many to many lots of authors many of which can get paid And last of all, let's make sure that everyone can be a reader no matter what their language their disabilities And proclivities that everyone can be supported in this digital world Frankly, it's the world that we benefited from growing up Let's make sure that the next generation has even though as you look around this room the number of laptops that are open It's a digital world Now let's go and adapt to it and support it and build it First of all, let's go and get Say a library that's as great as the boston public library a Yale or a princeton library online and accessible to all This is materials that are public domain out of print and in print Those libraries are about on the order of 10 million volumes. We can't stop there But let's make sure that we do this and I think we can do this quite effectively about 2 million books that are public domain 7 million Out of print and 1 million in print. I would suggest there are three strategies for these different legal categories One public domain should stay free The and out of print can be digitized to be lent Digitized to be lent digitally lent and that's now in in process and happening at scale And now there's also in print. Let's buy ebooks and lend them This isn't always what the publishers are saying they want us to be able to do But we have billions of dollars collectively in the library system to buy books And let's go and do what it is. We're used to doing which is acquire things for our collections permanently And lend them out such that if we buy 100 copies, there can be 100 copies circulating at once So buy ebooks and then lend them Digitize the books that we can't buy and lend them and give away the public domain. This is um, I Happy to say that this is happening at scale There are now a thousand libraries that have digitized books that are modern books in copyright books And lending them digitally and this is and also they are Sharing about a hundred thousand books. I say well, is that at scale? I'd say that's moving by having a large number of libraries saying we're moving forward with this approach of digitally lending and sort of solving one of the key problems Which is how do we get the collections that are not commercially viable up online? And then how do we go and support a wide number of vendors? Going forward. What can this project do? The my dreams out of this project is to help libraries buy new ebooks so that they can lend them That we can scan the core collection of 10 million books that should be available to every citizen everywhere in the world But since this has america in the title at least the united states And the third is help all libraries get the complete digital collections What's been amazing to me is to if you wanted a 10 million volume collection The size of that collection if it were on spinning searchable hard drives Is two computers that are about this size a 10 million book collection downloadable servable costs about $30,000 That's within the budget of a lot of libraries And I think they'll take very different use of it and a different conception than having one centralized database Which might have been necessary in the mainframe era, but is no longer necessary What would we get we would get universal access to all knowledge for an inspiring generation We would be doing our part towards going and building the infrastructure that people all over the world And our fellow citizens can learn from How do we stay on track? I always try to follow the money Is it being efficiently spent towards building towards these goals or is it kind of well spent? Um, so I would I'm always looking to follow the money and follow the bits Are the resulting bits going to be put in lots of libraries or just in one place? The thing I love about this project is that it's committing to put the bits in many places Even if they're in copyright materials because libraries can handle copyrighted materials on their shelves in new and different ways together We can build a digital america That as it's carved above the door of the boston public library. That's free to all Thank you very much Amanda french from the center for history and new media is next Busy old pool unruly sun Wide astound us through windows and through curtains call on us Saucy pedantic wretch go chide late school boys and sour apprentices Go tell court huntsman that the king will ride call country ants to harvest offices Love all alike no season knows nor climb nor hours days months, which are the rags of time It's john dunn the sun rising The obaad is a lyric about lovers parting at morning Its opposite and counterpart is the serenade an evening song In which one lover greets another Serenade has somehow become a far more common word in english than obaad. They used to rhyme Uh, but we are familiar enough with the scene of the obaad as when romeo and juliette argue over whether that's a lark or a nightingale They hear at the close of their night together or when john dunn berates the annoying dawn in the sun rising The obaad is a slightly inverted genre It recognizes that in the world of work the sun's rising is a beginning While for lovers the sun's rising is an unwelcome ending Those of us who love books reading and the library three separate ideas that are associated but not congruent, of course Are now somewhat in the position of a lover tangled up in someone's warm limbs at dawn The unruly sun of the digital text is rising and it is calling us to plotting work To the daily ballet of bureaucracy When i for one would far rather snuggle down under the covers with a book Or with my beloved ideals about books reading and the library My love song for the library as we have known it would praise first of all the fact that the library's favors cost me nothing As early modern poetry would be the first to admit it is perfectly possible that love can exist in a shall we say commercial relationship But i am speaking here of ideals Secondly i would praise a library's infinite variety from robert browning to norah roberts a plenitude that custom cannot stale Thirdly i appreciate a library that will support me in my moods of contemplative repose as well as in my moods of raucous communion All these might be called aspects of the soul of a library The soul of a library i could love of libraries i have loved But my love is not platonic As dunn writes in another poem To our bodies turn we then that so weak men in love revealed may look Love's mysteries in souls do grow, but yet the body is his book We need proof of love Entire coffee table books have been compiled with nearly erotic photos of gorgeous library buildings cathedrals of culture How will the dpla be embodied? I think the dpla must manifest itself as more than just a website There must also be many largely hidden and quiet services as well Generous services to the public to developers to existing libraries These services must be both technical and social and might include some of the things we've already heard about today Linked open data and metadata apis persistent uris or dois preservation services perhaps in the form of its own repository literacy and reference services And i think you know continual attention to accessibility and discoverability and even policy work at the highest levels of national government A site that merely aggregates existing content without providing such services would seem to me like a galatea A mere lovely statue with no real humanity beyond what we project upon it And although i i fully agree with um Those who say if it isn't online it doesn't exist I think that something that is only online Perhaps only half exists I want a building A public building not just a data center not just a warehouse. I do not need a building But I want it with the irrational desire of a lover I know that it's not on the radar yet for the dpla But I wanted to plant the seed of that idea today A monument to the ideal of an informed citizenry but also A monument to a culturally Intellectually and emotionally enriched citizenry. We're in the city of monuments We're in a marvelous monument to those ideals today One important note about the obaad in closing Lovers who plan to reunite in the evening of the very same day on which they part so reluctantly in the morning Are allowed to figure in the obaad you can look this up in the Princeton encyclopedia poetry and politics It's not just for lovers who anticipate a long painful and perhaps permanent separation I am confident that ours is one such obaad That our own work day will end With a with a gleeful rendezvous with the soul and body of a library There have been many memorable phrases throughout this but this last one the gleeful rendezvous With the soul and body of a library is one to remember We had the privilege at the start of this session of hearing jill cousins describe the commitment of european honor to the digital public library of america We now have the opportunity to hear some of her perspectives on the vision and the promise of the dpla Do anything without slides So i'm going to subject you to the slides. Do we have a yeah I'm going to attempt to make the technology work. Whoops. Yeah, why do I want it? Well, let's go back the importance of the dpla to european honor It's really really selfish actually We can get access to your stuff I am prepared to give you access to your stuff that we hold back And there is a lot more besides I Can improve on european honor It's about open data open source open licensing Open licensing is my latest mantra and i'll come back to that It is about being interoperable with each other So that together we can give the user on both sides of the atlantic More and we can give it to them faster So this is european honor This year we launched a strategic plan And this strategic plan is for four years and it's got so I can read it four major strands and the reason for Pushing this on you. I apologize. I'm pushing this on you The reason for pushing this on you is that it helps me frame what it is that I want out of the dpla So european honor is about aggregating. It is about building the open trusted source to european cultural content It is about facilitating supporting cultural heritage Sector through knowledge transfer through advocacy It is about making the heritage available To users wherever they are wherever they want it and lastly it is about engaging that user In ways to participate with our cultural heritage and I've heard all of that already here this morning and yesterday It is exactly the same mission that you are trying to accomplish Um When I look at these numbers, I'm slightly I was quite proud actually I thought we'd gone from two million to 20 million in in three years I thought that was quite good and then I hear the numbers that you guys are talking about and I think Hey, I'll have some of that But we're doing okay, uh, we started very much as you have started and we're moving on The thing that I'm particularly interested in is the apis is to be able to distribute this content back Into the places where the user is going to use it So don't expect them to come to european honor I don't think I would expect them to come to the dpl. Yeah dpl at Dpl a you see you can't say european honor, but I can't do You shouldn't expect them to come to those sites we need to put the stuff through apis Where the user is so the the curators of a school site can actually make it work for the kids We're not going to be able to do that We don't have the capability unless we put it with people who can make that that kind of thing work It is about Being able to take back What already belongs to america through these apis this is a search on it's actually america united states et azunis verenich start So just three languages and it brings up the kind of content that relates to The usa on that so it is maps. It's christmas cards which seem to have been invented here. It is quite a lot of Archive material particularly after the second world war But it's also things like videos of people turning up at ls island which is kept in the institut national audiovisual in paris All of that belongs to you and you should have it back in the dpl That came to came to 92 320 Now facilitate the reason that i am interested in this is all to do with open open data Open licensing we've heard some of that already Uh, we're doing an awful lot of work on labeling the content so that you know that it is in the public domain We issued a charter that says What was in the public domain in analog form should stay in the public domain in Digital form and i need your help to make sure that goes on that we label it with the public domain mark which has been developed with The creative commons guys here and that we really make sure that we don't lose this stuff for the future This was a search on washington and The public domain items actually are only 36 relating to washington But there were someone there and this one is from the national archive in the netherlands And it's a song about george washington. I think when he went to lyden, but i wouldn't swear about them And it's in dutch so unless you can read dutch you'll Lastly it's about being able to engage and some of you will have heard me Wacked lyrical about a project that we are involved in it's called european and 1914 to 1918 it's Based on an idea that came out of oxford university and with it we go around Museums libraries and ask people to bring in their memorabilia of the first world war and they bring in All sorts of stuff photos with bullet holes Through them that they got back from the the uncle burt who was killed in passion dale. They get back you get Diaries you get diaries kept by children during that period you get pick helmets all of that is digitized with the story and it's put online And we've done that in germany. We're going around the rest of europe I would really like to be able to extend that And if you'd like take the next exhibition that we do after migration and hit 2014 with one that looks at The stories behind the first world war And there's a rather nice remix video Which is based on this and pulls in all of the items that we hold in our institutions into the video so it's a story about a prisoner of war a german prisoner of war and a Captain in the british army who together put out a fire In ammunition stump in centoma And in this story in this video you can start to pull in things from youtube You can start to put in the maps of the trenches all of those things as you read through the video So the aim is to make it very interactive So why is dpla important We are the generation That can give access to the analogue past bruster said this i and a couple of other speakers have said it We were brought up on books manuscripts phonograms pictures We visited the museums the libraries the archives the galleries We know what is there and how important it is Will our kids If we don't digitize it and we don't put it online For me, that's the reason why the dpla is such a fantastic idea. Thank you And the person rising is carl malamud with people resource.org coming to the podium. Thank you I'm from california. I don't believe in powerpoint, but I do want a soapbox I want to thank david fario for allowing us to occupy narra today mora marx and john palfrey of course for working for the last year to make this real And especially to bob dartin who's been our prophet here to Leading us to the promised land of the republic of letters Bless me professor for I have scanned When I think about a digital public library of america I keep seeing images of reservoirs and bridges When I think of the dpla I think of the hoover dam and the golden gate bridge If you look at our museums and you look at our archives and our research institutions There's a tremendous reservoir of knowledge that's locked up waiting to be tapped It's tempting to think that our world of knowledge born digital That we're flooded with information that we need what clay johnson calls an information diet We don't need more data But our internet is only flooded with some kinds of information right now and some of our most important pools of knowledge are not available to all Or available only to those with gold credit cards or positions of privilege in our lead institutions Knowledge in our world does belong to the one percent and I can give you two examples And I think you can probably think of many more The first is law and government the law Our court opinions our statutes our regulations our public safety codes It's the operating system of our society. It's the rules that make our democracy work It's the code that makes america such a special place But private fences have enclosed this most public of public domains Access to justice has become all about access to money We give you one other example if you're a creative worker If you're a writer a filmmaker if you're an artist a scholar You draw on imagery that has accumulated over thousands of years Imagery you use to create new works of art and scholarship Creative workers must stand on the shoulders of giants if they're to reach new heights But as any hollywood filmmaker will tell you much of that imagery is locked up in for-profit collections Like getty images or corbis or other operations that have taken public domain materials And they've built walls and gates around them Even our museums Even our national smithsonian Institution have locked up their vaults allowing the images to be used only by those who stopped by cash register first There's a tremendous reservoir of this untapped knowledge in america Knowledge is our country's most important renewable natural resource. It's a common pool that should be available to all We already have many beautiful museums. We have bottomless libraries. We have unique research institutions What if the dp la instead of simply creating yet another institution created a common reservoir That we could all tap into What if the hati trust put everything they have into a common pool a pool that they in turn could draw upon To create an even more impressive hati trust What if the internet archive and the library of congress and public libraries and individuals and local historical Societies could all draw on those deep wells and all contribute to that common pool It's tempting for any one institution to say I have the answer But what if we shift the debate so that it becomes we all have the answer Here's my contributions. See what you can do with it surprise me I have one more metaphor and then i'm going to stop beating this metaphorical horse as it were That metaphor is a bridge and the specific bridge. I think of is a washington bridge a bridge that connects our nation's capital To the rest of the country When it comes to untapped resources, washington is the deepest well. It's a vast storehouse Locked inside this beltway. Look at our national cultural institutions our library of congress The national library of medicine the smithsonian institution the national agricultural library the national technical information service The government printing office the national archives the list goes on While we have glimpsed a few shining examples of that potential The american memory project from the library of congress the pioneering national library of medicine for the most part those resources lay hidden Our opportunity is to build a bridge to washington And that means we need to get much more serious about public works projects for knowledge We need to start a national digitization initiative that is more than pilots and prototypes We need a decade long commitment to scanning We need our federal government to understand that it's time to deploy The internet core of engineers to scan at stale To become a much more serious contributor to that reservoir knowledge to be at the center Of that public park that makes access to knowledge a right for all americans Not a privilege for the one percent If a self appointed librarian in an abandoned church like rooster kale can publish three million books How can our federal government not do more if google can scan 10 million books just a feeded search engine Why can't the federal government do the same to transform our nation's educational system if west law Can scan the opinions of our courts and statutes of our legislatures to maximize shareholder value Why can't the judicial conference of the united states and our nation's law schools work together to maximize democratic values If we could put a man on the moon Why can't we launch the library of congress into cyberspace If we spend billions of dollars to buy access to politicians Why can't we spend billions of dollars to buy access to knowledge and justice to promote the useful arts commerce and science That i think is the challenge that we face and these are the kinds of bridges and reservoirs We can build the kinds of public projects that can become the foundation Of the digital public library of america. It's the opportunity we can realize But only if we work together Thank you As the moderator of this panel this morning i'm going to exercise the privilege of Moving to audience participation on this question And rather than invite you to comment on what you've heard from the six instead Reflect for a few moments on the wealth of information and ideas that have been shared here And i'd like you to consider What is the potential of the dpla in the communities of which you are apart? And then i would invite you to share that with all of us here this morning What is the potential that you see? And oh, i forgot one other thing. Would you please state your name and be brief? claire mackinorney rector's university As a faculty member at a library school I'm hoping that the dpla will have some fellowships Or some scholarships to help the upcoming librarians Learn all the skills that they need. We've already launched courses in digital libraries metadata data curation But we need more and we need to be on the front line Thank you claire I'm well aware of the richness among the six here, but there's richness in this audience. Thank you This year i'm the director of the bergman center As many of you know i'm a passionate supporter of this project The presentations this morning however have exposed an issue that hadn't occurred to me before So i'd like to make a suggestion about it The refrain Which surprised me was the proposition that if it doesn't exist on mind it doesn't exist This seems to me If true unfortunate There are aspects of our cultural heritage that Can never be fully appreciated in a digital format Graphic art Can be Suggested but never Imitated online Find musical performances And certain historical events Appreciation of the holocaust can't be fully gleaned from digital materials At a minimum what has to immerse oneself in say The texture of yad vashem So if The digital public library succeeded fully There as a hazard. I hadn't previously recognized that it would suppress our appreciation of some other aspects of our cultural heritages Two paths forward one is there's an unavoidable competition and we would Observe and regret the extent to which our children lose appreciation for some things that we did enjoy But there's an alternative path, which is one could build into the project From the beginning techniques Not just for digitizing currently Analog materials But providing access to an indices for analog material to sensitize Appreciation of this can be as simple as Guidance to where musical performances currently are located Or it could be something more Thank you You actually interestingly enough we're addressing the second question I was going to pose if there had been time and that is what would any of you suggest are important things to consider as this Work moves forward critical success factors. I appreciate that Other perspectives on the promise of the dpla for your communities Martin, thank you. Martin Martin Gomez, uh, Los Angeles public library. I see potential For many of the kids that are served by Los Angeles public library example To get excited About knowledge about information about learning about pulling pieces together that are important to them in their own communities Thank you Yes Zachary Davis from the cannon foundation And i'm very interested to know how the dpla is planning to support local libraries so that With the online, uh library systems, how do we make sure that public libraries continue to be a space For learning and education. How can we transform the use of public libraries in these communities so that these buildings can become You know potential temples to knowledge And a place of Well, that's the idea. It's what do we do with these places so that they're still useful Well, I'll I'll take a crack at that. Um, I I think that um, Susan Hildreth sort of alluded to this in her, um presentation earlier this morning and I think um, what we're seeing is that public libraries may in fact have to Uh evolve And many of them are already doing that. I think um, one of the the exciting features that I envision for the digital public library of America Is that it will incorporate user created content Well, all of that is being fed in if you will laboratories in public libraries all across the country um I was talking earlier about digital inclusion Um, I think we have to realize that when you look at and a survey just came out report came out from connected nation that 46 percent of low-income families with children don't have computers and don't have internet access and um I think they deserve Access to the digital public library of america and I I would agree with terry that I think if if a child is growing up in some of the major cities in this country There isn't always a digital replacement for a firsthand experience of a cultural event But if you're a child growing up in muleshoe, texas, I can promise you The only cultural heritage Organization or institution within a hundred miles is the public library So I I think that public libraries are going to to change I I think of it more not a library without walls, but a library beyond walls because I think Every library in this country has experiences that they can share about All all the ways that their libraries are being used In ways that whether you're at rutgers or university of texas or denver Whatever library school or iSchool you happen to go to you could never have envisioned The use of the public library in that way So I see public libraries as being integral to the development of dpla because I think that is where user created content Is going to surface and is surfacing But I also think that that's the role that libraries are going to play To create an environment in which people can access digital content When there is no access anywhere else So I know I have one ready on this side, but is there anyone on that side? Ah, thank you Um, I'm susanne bremer. I'm from boston, massachusetts Free for all is words that I pass every day On the face of the boston public library miss rod I really appreciate your comments because I signal this fellow that I wanted to speak just as you were mentioning bandwidth Which I think is a critical issue particularly in rural areas and I'm hoping that the technical aspects of working at digital public libraries takes into account that you're going to have a lot of data Images and and very heavy use of the bandwidth and how are we going to build The bandwidth access to through public libraries Well, I think that's one reason why I'm so glad to see jill nishi with the gates foundation here because They have worked with particularly libraries in my state of texas, but also all across the country To upgrade bandwidth in public libraries and to sustain that over a period of time I think that is one of the critical issues that feeds into digital inclusion If your library has a 1.5 megabit Connection and you've got kids pouring into your library after three o'clock in the afternoon Trust me. It's not going to be long before Everybody's saying why is it so slow? Why can't I do this that or the other? So that is a key component of what we're talking about with dpla Is the gentleman here? Thank you. Uh, steven kirk patrick from suni old westbury We serve many of those underserved First generation to college students and the word community means a great deal to us there I And I think of community and to respects Uh, imagine an ecuadoran American mother who is a part-time student majoring in finance She actually belongs to a lot of communities and We're we want the content, of course that serves all those communities But I'd also be interested in making sure that The the coding that goes into this Recognizes that well not just her but all of us have multiple communities that we belong to So I would hope that whatever exists would allow her to shift from her parenting interests and and get the advantage of social searching and then suddenly switch to the finance major and also have the benefit of The social aspect of searching With other finance majors etc Comment and then I'll call on this gentleman Anyone David if you can come here Anyone on the panel want to reflect on this? Yeah, I was gonna say we've all agreed Absolutely Hi, my name is john arnold I'm a software engineer by trade and I've been a library advocate since I was elected as a local library trustee when I was 19 So I've watched this whole thing develop and I wanted to point out two two Two things of interest that have caught my attention today First of all, one of the ideas harkening way back to the 1991 white house conference on library information services Which might be another reference point worth looking at that we in some of our subgroups talked about Wasn't just scanning but it was the ability to maybe have a central point Where people could send their old home movies like eight millimeters super eight and not have to pay through the nose For not very good quality and be able to get some of those our activities That not only are in our families and in families across the country But also many public libraries have films donated of parades from the turn of the century Or from world wars So I really like to get that and the other thing I'd like to say getting back to what uh, the question about the potential of dpla I see dpla has a huge potential for freeing up some resources right now They're to use that the local libraries so the local library can spend its scarce resources on Customizing a broadly available set of content to exactly what that community needs and what the local trustees are deciding to do But even better than that having a great pool of lots of content to choose from the library can customize it for the community But if somebody feels they're not a good fit for that community The library can provide an audience of one by letting the person customize the library for themselves Thank you Isilena Camelman a recent library Science graduate from new york But my question is not really related to the professionals library professionals, but more to How does the Private citizen the everyday person get involved in this project from its beginning stages And i'm not look i'm not really asking about like the scanning part of it But you know maybe getting involved somehow writing letters to washington Or even contributing funds All right john palfer is ready I'm thrilled to have this particular question and we'll spend actually our last session on roughly this topic The answer is lots of ways and your imagination is probably the real limit here I love the lobbying point that you And second to last I think that there's a big mobilization question here I think it goes to many of the concerns that have been expressed david rothman and others about the effect of this project on public libraries If this notion is that people say because you have a dpla you therefore don't need a local library Obviously everyone in this room and everybody watching this thinks that's a crazy statement But we know there are crazy people in politics and that's an unfortunate reality We have to deal with it. So helping us get the word out about what this is and that it's a compliment a supplement to The real needs to fund libraries at the local level and all through The system and to do that in a way that I think in the end aggregates more resources to This knowledge pool and the sort of system we're talking about and I don't think there's any I would be so sorry If this project led to the closure of one library, right? I think to terry fischer's points and Other comments that have been Brought through here. This is absolutely not about shutting libraries. That is happening anyway That doesn't have to be our fault. That is a problem in the world but hopefully this will allow those spaces to be much richer and Use for more things and freeing up librarians time More precisely to giving money I think we should find some way to have a fund that we all could give private resources to we haven't done that But it's a great idea. Thank you and we'll figure that out some PayPal mechanism But more specifically to the the kind of broad question How can you get involved in the setting up of this project? I think the good news and bad news of having questions about what the it is of the DPLA is That on the other hand one hand, we're struggling with it And we're working through it on the other hand that we want your help and we've got an opportunity to do that There are six work streams that have been set up for the DPLA if you go to dp.la or digitalpubliclibraryamerica.org which takes more typing or google us you will find the six work streams Today is in part meant as an invitation to everyone here and everybody watching this And everybody who will watch it in future to come join those work streams to Participate in the shaping of what this ought to be They range from governance to legal issues to technical aspects to audience and participation And so forth and there are going to be a series of meetings over 18 months that will Be open to anyone who wants to participate will post in advance when they're happening You can participate in virtual ways or come to the meetings They will be chaired and in a way that hopefully we can manage relatively broad participation And they will take up a series of issues that we know we have to deal with so when we talk about what we're actually building And I think bruster's raised some of the key issues in that area Those who have more technical ability will be hugely helpful in that zone When we talk about how we take the beta sprints and build upon them into something common But also take that open code and build on it not to do with the DPLA find funders Who want to build it you know fund that and people want to build it in other environments But on the technical aspects one just to stick with that for a second We also need people who will imagine the use cases how will these things be used And what should we be building so I think there's a huge huge range of opportunities across these different projects and if over the 18 months We have we come back together at april 2013, which is the will be the launch of a real DPLA itself If we have 300 people in the room that will be great. This was over subscribes. There would have been more But if we have you know 10 times that who want to be in here that's going to be a big piece of the success And so to all library students to everybody here come join us There's more than enough work to do and scanning is part of it and riding in the back of the scanner bega will be fun But there are lots of other things in the work streams and more on that this afternoon I'm sorry. I took more of my time, but this was a great opportunity to issue the invitation I see one hand right here. And I think we have time for that one. Oh one up there Hi, uh, can you tell us about this pile? I'm a early childhood fellow at university of Denver second-year library student and uh honored to be a former enough person Children's librarian and you know for me I've always believed children who go to the library become parents who go to the library And so it's kind of a two-point question What do you have in the collection for children? And I'm and I'm talking about the emergent reader as well And and I want to know what is the buy-in for a parent to want to use the digital public library of America because I know that I see the the reasons for academic and it's very academic focus and I see great for history When I'm talking about that zero to eight years old year old and I know the amazing thing when they open a book for the first time So what is it about the digital public library of America that want that I as a children's librarian I'm going to tell my parent This is an amazing resource and this is why you should use it And thank you for that and we absolutely want the panel to respond because we want to be very clear what the intent is Of the dpl. I would like to take this one I have an answer. I'd love to give but John you go right ahead So I think this is like the last one one of the crucial things that we kind of work out conceptually I think the answer to that is it's what the enic library is going to do with the dpl. And how it's going to mediate that in ways that are make sense for eight zero eight year olds who come To that library and through this I think that is one big piece of this project is creating infrastructure The common pool everyone describe it of things that people can Code upon and use in ways that um are much richer and more freely available I think that we do have to figure out if someone comes to the some common website How do we make it um something available? And I think you've heard from bruster a vision for things that you would have had trouble accessing before I know there are publishers in the room who are struggling with this question But there are things that are um digital and um right now in print and in copyright that libraries are having a hard time Getting to that zero to eight year old person I think we fear a future in which a library can't even do its job to get the newest stuff to people And I think we need to be a force broadly for helping that to happen whether it's the dpla or through our advocacy or Working with publishers on different models. I think that's a crucial piece of it But you know as a parent of a six and a nine year old Maybe nothing right? I mean there may be some degree to which We're still buying them the books or pic checking them out of the enic pratt library and reading them that book too That may be how we want to In our household do it so I think that the range of possibilities is enormous And it's enormous, especially if we get the platform right and the community parts right To what the dpla is and I happen to believe there are lots of things as a parent we can do But I also think it's it's not a replacement for anything and we shouldn't see it that way If I could offer two This doesn't get to the lower end of the age range that you're asking about but The university of texas at arlington did a study about a year and a half ago And they were looking at because students in texas study texas history in fourth grade and then again in seventh grade and And they were looking at what is it that's going to fully engage students in the study of our state's history And and what's going to yield higher Grades on standardized tests having to do with texas history. Well, one of the things they found Is that students performed better? If they had a greater extent of interaction With documents with real documents if they had first person experiences And so what we've tried to do at the texas state library, and I know many state libraries around the country Have been funding projects at their own institution as well as across their individual states That is bringing history to the classroom so that students can experience Rather than simply talking about the Our civilian conservation core drawings of texas parks or Or our confederate pension applications or texas republic claims or any of the the wealth of of Documents that we have We can digitize those and make them available so that it enhances the experience of students As they study our state's history and of course, that's very much true for the study of United States history as well because that's used In classrooms at the youngest level I think So I think carl has one last comment two very specific examples The encyclopedia of life which the smithsonian helps do pictures of bugs and lions and tigers and bears and the amazing Folks on collections at the library congress and if we're successful to address professor fischer's point After being able to identify the lions and tigers and bears the next thing out of that kid's mouth is going to be I want to visit the smithsonian when we go to washington or the local zoo And that's certainly been our experience It's a means of getting people into that content not a replacement of the physical content I wanted to mention that to you. I've read a number of studies about libraries and museums and archives doing digitization Well archives and museums particularly and there's always this worry It's going if we digitize that people won't come to the physical place anymore And there are many studies that it's exactly the opposite people see it online So this this phrase you know if it if it isn't online It doesn't exist. It's just sort of a little little catchphrase But I think it it might be usefully complicated by saying if it isn't online people don't know it exists Once it's online people understand that it exists and sure Maybe you're on the other side of the country not willing to make that trip But when you do do your once in a lifetime field trip to washington You take the opportunity to go look at that thing So let me close with two words of thanks The first is on behalf of the panel to all of you and particularly those of you who made comments Or responded to the questions that I had posed It was a very meaningful experience in engagement in this process And you could also see from that that it stimulates thinking and it helps advance the development of the dpla And of course, I want all of you in the audience to join me in thanking the six panelists for their presentations