 Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Difference in a way, like you guys started, when you guys started, it was a different time, a different era, you talking about 70s? No, no, no, no. Look how he came in. Okay. Same way I came in. We come to you, it's a challenge. So it wasn't no easy road. I promise you, every opponent back then were worthy opponents that you can speak of that. We talk about Raymond Washington, Turkey, Lil James, Compton, Barefoot, Pookie, Michael, Conception, I can name them all day long, just all day for the 50 years that I've been around. But like I say at the beginning, when we came in, it was nothing but your face was your ID and your pistol was your passport. So that's how everything was encountered, because at that time in our days, you couldn't tell this before colors. You couldn't tell from blood, because that wasn't even thought about. In fact, it wasn't even those sets, eight trade, 60s, just when it was west side and east side, Compton. So it wasn't just like we were dominant. No, that wasn't the case. Everybody from the early 70s were very real respecting and about that business. Well, as far as me and others, we never thought about it expanding or going into what it is now. We were just young kids. We didn't know where we was lost. Not misguided, because there was nobody telling us what to do. See, we didn't have, contrary to what people think, Raymond and them, they had army and this and that. No, they were the faces of the Crips, but they were 18. We 14, 15 year old juveniles before they even had this type of situation where we was getting two or three years of homicide, a car jacking was called, GTA get caught with a gun, they give it back. So a lot of the things, most of the guys from my ever from 71 to 75, from 14 to 18, we either got 25 or better arrests in a four year period or either they got a murder conviction or either if they still allowed a day they have over 25, 30 years in prison. Two of those three they usually have before they would say 18, so we had a free wing. It was the Wild Wild West, but it was honorable when people getting involved, it wasn't involved and signed up for it. So a lot of innocent people wouldn't get hurt as it is now where anybody because of the area you stay in, it could be detrimental, so. Wow. And so, and you mentioned prison along the way, I know that when you're incarcerated, that becomes a deal as well, where there's members of Crips, Blood, different Muslim faith, all these different section of groups and it's a different, it's like a different structure when you inside of the walls than it is when you outside. Actually, it would almost seem as if it's more, more like it's more togetherness when you inside. What do you think about that? Yeah, I don't know. It's about to be together when you inside. You understand me? A lot of, a lot of, shout to me ever, man. I'm gonna get this, now I gotta get the, get the star stud out of my head. Oh, no, it's all good, man. Get to me, man. OG zero. Yeah, real talk, that's catty, man. Real talk. Spirit confusion. But anyway, man, it's a difference. When you outside that world, you can run from hood to hood. See, that's what them youngsters know when they get on this game, this game, see, I don't game bang. I don't game claim and I don't got nothing to do with the game. I got one game, I'm in God's game now. That's my game. That's my only game, one on one. And we know that now, but I'm gonna stick to the topic but I still, but back then, you know, they get in these games and it's time to go to reap the benefits of what the game has for you, which is the penitentiary of the grave. When it's time to reap the, one thing that you know, when you in the streets, I can, I can hit you and run over and hide in his hood. Hit him, run over and hide in his, hit him, go hide in her hood. But when you go to the penitentiary, there ain't no hiding, ain't no hiding place. You run into them all now. It's time to reap the benefits. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no togetherness. You're going to penitentiary and find out them niggas or nothing. This is roof, this is the ones in the streets. But there ain't no out of it. You know, ain't no walking away, ain't no, now you can get jumped at, nigga, mad shit. Niggas, some of them, some of them creeps in there when they go in there. I'm gonna tell you some real, you know, you know how I get in. Them niggas be hoes. They come in there and they, they, they, they, they, they not the niggas they in the streets. They not the creep in the street when they is behind them bars. You can do a lot that, like I tell you, ain't no pistols in the penitentiary. I got a major announcement to make but I'll wait to break that later. Now, let me a little bit about California prison system. Y'all read my book, The New Slave Ship, a ship that does not sail that deal with this new industry called prison. But when we first went to prison, there was no creeps. There were very few because most of us were juveniles at the time in 71, 14, 15, 16, 17. So when we got the age to where we can be sent to prison, everybody also need to know that California is the only prison state that has no segregation. They segregated. When I was in Georgia prison, I don't had Latino, facility, white, but California is the only state in the United States that segregate and this is why. Most people don't know the difference between the street gang and the prison gang. Like you say, you don't go in there with a pistol. We call it you check your guns in at the county. Okay. So now you're coming up close. You got to come up close. But what happened when we first started going to prison? Here it is, these guys, you got the right after George Jackson, the Soledad brothers, Fleety Gromgrove, Hugo Ponell, Rest in Peace, who got killed in slain for some after 50 years and solitary confinement into his daughter, Allegra, my own girl. But anyway, so now when we got to prison, now you got the BGF, Black Arilla family. You got the Black Panthers. You got the ABs and Brotherhood. You got the Mexican mafia. You got the Northern familiar. You got the Muslims. You got the police. And then later on, you start breaking it in that CCOs, Crips under Constitution, Blue Notes took in them, Vanguard, Blackcoats, UBN that's in New York, Peabody and all them that started that. So when you're in prison, it's a difference. Believe it or not, in California, it turns into racial. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101.