 Do you want to show that Daredevil logo during the podcast? Yeah, we'll do like a little whip like my yeah, so well as I have a list of questions. They're not like anything too intense It's just like about your Your credit history and stuff like that my social security number. Yeah Wait, do you have social security numbers over there? Yeah, everyone has one We have a wait, what's it? I have a national insurance National insurance number Don't read it. You sound like you're about to read it to me. Yeah, I'll just get it real quick. Give me a second. No The music's rolling in I can hear it I can hear the music rolling in and post I can hear it All right, we're gonna do that. We're gonna come in We're gonna go in three two one Hello, this is so weird because I haven't done one of these in a while But we're gonna at the last one was with chem. I really like to have a chem on but we're gonna we're gonna get into right now Right now with me today. I have one of the I think one of the the Cornerstones of the spider-man cosplay community. I would say that you kind of have if I were to describe your your cornerstone It's it's it's dark. It's drab, and I would say it's quite literally in the dark corner. I would say We have None of no one I'd probably call myself like the depressing corner of spider-man cosplay if I'm being honest. No, I wouldn't say it's depressing I just necessarily say it's It's it's it's drab. It's unique. It's like those like it reminds me of those if I had to give it a vibe I would give it the vibe of like those those 60s black-and-white horror movies Yeah, you know what that's not bad. That's not a bad like way. I've described me if I'm being honest I've had worse Today I have with me spider boy the the the starter of the sweater suit trend You've made a lot of great suits I've made a couple of great suits. I wouldn't say they're all incredible because I have scrapped a number of them Um But the ones that I haven't got rid of I'm pretty proud of yeah, I got to say I I think Keen I'm surprised. I've gone this long without getting Keen on the cast with me I'd say that you were We we we wanted to have you on for maybe like a month right, but then I we were like Shit, we had shitty schedules and not only that you're in the UK and I We have a different time so it was only like yesterday where I was like hey your five hours ahead of me So now I'm actually gonna work to set up a time Yeah, and I had nothing I hadn't got work today. I was chilling out It was match made in heaven if I'm being perfectly honest great Man, we really are staying away from the nitty-gritty and we are like losing audience retention Oh a hundred percent. This is just like a coffee conversation between good chums It is it is I think you know what and I'm gonna say this right now And not a lot of people watch these podcasts and I just want to say that all of you watching right now are certified real ones Absolute real ones absolute G's give you kisses. That's right. That's right All right, so we're gonna get we're gonna get into the question The first question because you were you were the first person to ever make Like a spider-man sweater suit right like out of like like slacks and like sweaters and jeans and Sweatpants, right? Maybe I don't want to be like I don't want to say like I was the first person to do that because I'm I'm sure someone's done it before me because there's like like you got the human spider suit Which is pretty much the same thing which That way before like I did it No, I don't know you You literally made a spider-man suit like you didn't pretend it was like a homemade suit You didn't pretend it was like some beta suit or whatever you like sold it as a genuine real spider-man suit. I Suppose so. Yeah, I don't I think the main inspiration for that suit Just came out of the idea of not having too much money and then England There's a there's a rapid influx. So there's a rapid influx of like thrift shots where I'm from I see and they're Decently priced so getting stuff from them. Just it made sense to buy my Fabric from them instead of like going to a fabric shop and buying it there, right? I have to say that your Me and Kean we we have sort of an antagonistic relationship off camera We're always like yelling and screaming at each other and like oh you're a cunt. Oh, no, you're a cunt whatever guy We got this back and forth, but I Even still back in the day before we were like yelling and screaming at each other for memes There was always a secret not really secret I I wouldn't even say but there was always this admiration for your work that I've always had especially your Your I don't that's the thing Kean. You don't name your suits. I don't think My suits you do well, you don't publicly name them like I don't know the name of your I Don't know. I don't know the name of that really dark suit you have it's called the dropout suit and That's the that's like the the velvet purple one Yeah, that's like the purple and like really dark blue one But yeah, the one the one you ran around the one where you ran around in those and like went outside and actually did like a Genuine photo shoot with a video Yes, that yeah, okay the dropouts it see that wasn't publicly no knowledge. I've been looking through your posts all day and I was like What is it called? But I love it. I love it. This is like I Think me this is peak Kean for me Don't worry new Kean's gonna be better if I'm being honest like the suit that I've got planned at the moment is It's gonna be incredible. Like if I if I if I can pull it off the way I want to We got we got something sweet in store. I'm I'm excited because Because this this suit There's something about the suit that really grabs me. I'm not gonna lie like I think this suit perfectly nails the this sort of How to properly do the grungy spider-man aesthetic that I've been screaming about Like for years on my time in YouTube this suit nails it for me Funny you should say that though because the amount of hate this suit got when I first made it was Absolutely insane. No, it's unwarranted. It's unprecedented. It's unwarranted. It you know this suit is this suit is fucking this is This is I'm not gonna lie. This is one of the best spider-man suits. I think the community has to offer I'm looking at pictures of it right now and it's amazing. It's I love the suit personally It's probably my most comfortable suit that I own in terms of like homemade looking ones But I can understand why someone wouldn't like it because especially with like the current media that we're in if you're not part of the community like cosplay wise Most of the suits are gonna be very clean very linear Messy webs is kind of unheard of it like MCU media and stuff. Yeah, it's very It's very it's very macabre. I think yeah borderline gothic in a way But no, I liked I like your approach. That's the thing like you you have such a unique take on dark spider-man Like I've seen I've seen other people do dark spider-man. I'm like, yeah, that's yeah That's a dark spider-man. But like no your your approach to the spider-man suit is one like genuinely rooted in like this sort of Gothic fashion and it's like really dark Hmm, I think it nails it. I really think it nails it like this. This is how you properly do a Darker spider-man design Thank you guy I do really appreciate that it's just it was the way I made it was a way that I'd seen a couple people making it so I think it was like at the same time me and easy bug boy were both doing the same kind of thing and There are things that he was doing I really liked and like we you would like kind of go around and share like give each other little tips and stuff and I think it reached December. It was just before no way home came out I think it was like a month before and I was like, you know what I really want to make this like a new suit It'd been a while since I've made a homemade suit and my last one was really uncomfortable We didn't fit in parts that I wanted it to and I just got you know, fuck this I might as well just make a brand new suit and the dropout suit kind of came along I think I only I made it in the span of maybe Two weeks if that I got a body suit done in like three days Wait, wait, wait body suit. I got the whole like like the shirt the legs All of that was done and maybe two three days max Yeah, I definitely Man, I'm looking at the comments right now on your on your on your on the video And I noticed that some person said Like it looks familiar Tasm one first of all I don't For I don't get why I mean I kind of get why but why would you think of like the Tasm one suit? But two I now that I think about it. I do think that if you put This suit over Andrew Garfield's costume and Tasm one. I think it would work quite well Yeah, all of the suits. I do think that the parallel between Tasm one is probably the closest we get I think it'd be like a stretch to maybe go 2002 Raimi in a weird way. Yeah, that's that's a bit of a stretch That is a bit of a stretch even for me. Yeah, I Do love it though. I think I think the I think this suit definitely got way more hate than it deserved I don't think it deserved any hate at all, but you actually You popped off you like this suit got a lot of fucking clicks and traction. Oh I this suit is completely to like to fall of why I have More of a following now hundred percent. I think I was getting like a thousand a week at one point There was it was insane. It was actually it was frightening for a little bit because I'd be going to work I'd work for like ten hours like Goal my break and I'd see like over 300 people following me in the span of like an hour It was fucking terrifying. I think you might have more followers than me I'm looking at all your posts of this suit and they're littered with like That yeah, you have more followers than me Jump This suit is littered with with like comments like all the posts of this suit have tons of comment It is kind of disappointing to see that a lot of people who respond to this suit didn't have like the mental capacity to not compare the eyes to The eyes of Asian people Yeah, there's a lot of racism on this suit and it's always kind of baffled me as to why like I know it got to a point like when I started getting all this I just kind of fed into them and I just really just started to bully all the people making fun of it Because I feel like with this suit there is like a there's a there's an aura of like an attitude with it Where you kind of need that you can't be you can't be really nice to people that are being like that So I just wasn't Yeah, I also It's also baffling to me that that there were people who decided to start doing racism in the comments of a spider-man suit of all places Like they were not Controlled ourselves Out of a character that you can't see the skin of always baffled me Yeah, and then there were a lot of people comparing it to Japanese spider-man Yeah, but I'm sadly I'm always gonna get that because all of my suits have narrow like narrow eyes all of them So yeah, that's always gonna be unavoidable Even if I do a suit that doesn't look remotely similar like the new suit that I'm doing if anything looks closer to a superior spider-man I'm always gonna get compared to Japanese by the man without fail Yeah, if there's one thing I hate about the spider-man community is that like the newer people are so terrible at Recognizing spider-man costumes and they will just straight up get the costumes that you're wearing wrong And it pisses me off like I can't wear my black suit without people being like You're wearing the spectacular spider-man Fuck you, you know what you you deserve to get fucking called the the Japanese spider-man 2.0 Dropout suit I will say I will say I do love your Your recent suits of late like I know I I like when I was beginning to get popular is when I first met you And your she just blew me away. It was like the quality of it was just absolutely insane I think you're probably the like the main reason I started getting hip like more into dick-coe spider-man designs Just because you did that one dick-coe suit is like a commission It was incredible when I first I love so much. Oh No, no, no, that was um That was suit. Yeah, that was plebs. That was spider plebs design Yeah, but it was something about it was just so nostalgic and dick-coe because at the time of making The dropout suit. I was so heavily against like any kind of classic look to a suit So I don't I don't really like any of the peers like the ps4 classic suit I'm not the biggest fan of it like Clean webs are a bit of an air to me But something about dick-coe just draws a final line between being classic and having that kind of angst and grunge that I like from suits Like there's something about them Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I I love spider. I loved spider plebs design, too I like I think that was the first time I ever made an entire like full body costume Like I got it like a seven-piece suit and unfortunately it didn't fit plebs So it sent he sent it back to me and I gave him a full refund, of course But I'm at the end of the day, you know, honestly, I'm kind of glad I got to keep it But sometimes sometimes I think about commissions. I made for people and I'm like fuck. I really wish I kept that to myself Yeah, they're like I've not really done any commissions for anyone, but like I make patterns sometimes You do patterns I do make patterns most of so I've got a couple suits So you might I think you'd be able to see it So you'd be actually like my the major suit That's a pattern that I made and I've also got a dick-coe suit on there that I made as well You're I believe you're one of the You're one of the I think you're one of the first pattern makers that are like actually like I Know I know chem had a pattern made I don't know if he made it, but I know he doesn't mind he doesn't majorly make patterns So I would consider you more of a pattern maker. I think Yeah, I certainly do like I Think my thing is is that I don't like spending a lot of money on my projects because There are better things to spend them on so if I'm gonna If I'm gonna try and like get a pattern I'll try and just learn how to do it myself and I've had like Luckily, I'm friends with such like incredible people that can teach me and help me with stuff Like pleb taught me a lot how to make designs like old Spidey the man that makes the the The ultimate the universal pattern Yeah, the universal pan He taught me like so much about making stuff and I'm so grateful for that because it's such a unique skill to learn that like Not many spider-man like people really like cosplayers know about that Like how to make their own patterns, so then they have to spend like what the 50 like 40 50 dollars on a fucking pattern You know, I mean, yeah, you can make your own shit It's like that's why I credit you so much because you make all of your own stuff Like all of your own patterns are made like you make all the digitally like make all the emblems and then like find chew them like everything you make even for your friend is it it's like Like you make the tray as well like all that shit. It's just so cool that it's all like one of one and stuff I love that like the whole idea of that Yeah, I think the number one thing I don't want to be as a spider-man cosplay or someone that blends in I Don't want to be I don't want to be lost in a crowd like if you saw a crowd of spider-men You'd probably be able to point me out since I'm not wearing a printed zentai suit I think that's the number one thing. I always want to be Amazon suit. Yeah Yeah, that's my main thing. It's like when I go to a comic on I want people to like if I walk past them And then kind of follow me. I want people to be like, oh my god, it's you like I'm looking at a picture of you right now on the fucking subway In your spider-man outfit. No, that's Britain. That's the tube my man. Like the tube tube Hell yeah, bro. I'm gonna hop on the tube It's great. It's got the worst noise in existence though Like it sounds like it you go through the tunnel and it sounds like it's screaming at you. It's horrible I've been I've been on the the I've been on the subways in New York, but I don't imagine it's that bad. Like it's I don't imagine it's just as bad as the As the I guess is the tube It's it's it's not bad. It's just the way I describe like English like a train transport ways. It's just always packed especially in London Like it's packed no pretty much no matter what time you try to get on it Like I just I went into London last week to watch a play And I come I get on get on the tube at like 10 o'clock at night and it is absolutely Packed like it was me and my four friends and we like nearly lost each other because it was that packed Like two of us needs to get on the carriage one side The other try to get on the carriage another side. It was absolutely like it was just completely jammed. It was insane What are I do you want to talk a little more about that design or the suit? You're the whatever the project you're making that you claim will be better than your dropout suit I'd absolutely love to so this suit is called the Exordium suit The reason I'm making it so I'm making a comic essentially And the suit that I'm making is the one that is in the comic I'll try and find a quick little photo of it. I haven't actually got many photos of it This suit has been in production for around two years. Yeah, I went to your Instagram reel and I'm And I'm looking through the I'm looking right now and I saw the the amount of weeks It was a 92 weeks and I was like is this right? Yeah, this suit has taken a it's taken a minute to make I Don't ask describe the suit so It's meant is meant to be as homemade as you can conceivably get for a spike for a Spider-Man suit It's meant to be like a child like an 18 year old child has made this with minimal to no budget But I also want strangely I want to get the same kind of feeling as 2002's Remy Just because like that's when the comic is like taken place like I want the emblems to kind of have that vibe to it It has a bit of the vibe of the Alex Ross designer that black and like the black and red design that he made It has a bit of a vibe to that In a weird kind of way Yeah, I just I love this suit like but it has been through it has been through so many redesigns I think it's got over 20 redesigns or like or something in that capacity. It's just I feel bad for it because I really want to make it and I'm sure like I Made a like a prototype version of it a while ago and I hated how it looks so I sold it I think that's the only one of the only soups I've ever sold was that suit Let's have a little look so it started off as an actual like as an actual printed suit But then I realized I wasn't a big fan of how it looks. So I wanted to kind of lean into making a seven piece actual Look to a suit and that's what I'm working on in the moment I've got the suit going like the the black parts of it going for that I'm just waiting for my friend sensation of Spidey to He's finished the shelf for that. So that's all getting printed out the emblems have been cast. So for this suit I'm using like Eurythane cast emblems and they are massive. They're absolutely huge I'll send a photo to you here because it's the only photo I've got of like What can it look like at the moment? It's like a little headshot of it. I See I you I've noticed like you you like to collaborate You I do love to collaborate. I feel like specifically with with with Zach or Sensational Spidey, right? Yes, because me and Zach of so when I started getting into cosplay like the first couple weeks of getting into cosplay Zach messaged me and at that time we're both at the same level like he made a couple suits But we were still really new to it all like and there wasn't at that time There wasn't really a lot of people that were kind of sharing information So at the same like as I learned stuff and he learned stuff We kept just sharing each other so that so over the past couple years like Zach has been like one of my closest friends doing cosplay and I really couldn't I really don't think I could be where I am without his kind of help and Yeah, no, it's just like I really have to describe it like it's just Like collaboration with him It just works so well because we both know how each other work and like I'll help him with them some stuff That he's working on like when he was making a seven piece I was kind of he's giving me tips on how to make one and I was giving him like a little advice on how to make Something like a bit more homemade So I personally think when people say like oh, yeah, you kind of like started the resurgence of making seven pieces I personally credit me and Zach for it because Zach kind of brings that Professionality to it like everything that he has has polish like I don't know if you've ever had if you've got one Of his shells or two. I do not I don't wear shells at all. I know you don't I know you don't but I would so recommend it Like it's something like the quality of them is just it's impeccable like I think I've got how many shells that I got There's no I got one two three all of my shells as X. So I've got around five of them. I I Do I if I were to buy a shell I think I would definitely consider it being Zach of all people because his work is phenomenal Mmm. It's just there's just that degree of like Customs like customer care that he has with it is just truly mind-boggling. Okay. I don't really see it a lot Any more like I accidentally just saw a picture of his feet Yeah What did you get that from I'm I'm time stamping this right now so I can put it in the video Zach Zack feet. Zack. I've got a photo of that. I think I've got a couple Which is weird, but we move. Yeah, it's fine. We slide in case you don't know who Zach is Zach is Zach is sensational spidey. He is a Shell maker a suit maker He he does a lot of great work. You should follow him. You should check him out And in fact, I'm gonna put his information and his feet on screen For you Mind, I'm sure he wouldn't mind I hope not because they're on screen right now. He's good if I ever get him on the podcast He's gonna be like you put my feet on the screen. I Personally think you should put him on the podcast. I will I could be fucking entertaining a ship I'll put his feet in the thumbnail We love to see that now do it like do it. So it's like it's like I'm like a shoulder up of his body Yeah, it's just like photoshopped his feet. Yeah, it is his face. I He lives he lives in the US right He does live in the US. I he's got the most American name as well Yeah, cuz I want to say because the he ships out to you so often Yeah, um It's not like painfully expensive It's decently expensive. It comes to usually around $60 for me or 60 pounds for me, which is like $70 and depending on how expensive the goods are I usually get taxed as well Damn Around 50 pounds as well. That's actually not bad though for a shell Actually, that's a that's a pretty good price because I see a lot of shells going for like a hundred No, Zach shells are around 200 Oh Yeah, but you get the discount for me. I do I do but 200 plus shipping plus tax So I see is it is a call it's like $300 for a shell sometimes But I've also got a dead devil shell coming from him. This is like recently I also sent you a couple of photos of the emblems for the x-audium suit as well. Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw these the other day. I don't remember where though you'll be on my story Oh, I also send them in your discord as well. Follow fucking Get into cars discord if you guys aren't there. It's a good old time. Good old time for me for real link in the description For real 100% always Um, do you want a negrity of how I made it or do you want to know like I? want to just give me a give me a summary of Like what like what your thoughts were some original ideas and then you can tell me how you made it So it's for an upcoming project. I'm working on so I'm working on a a seven-piece dick Co just because I'm kind of on a bit of a dick code binge at the moment like I The best thing about that here as an artist is this he just never drew a spider-man Consistently so there's always kind of avenues that you can take his artwork, which I absolutely love Because it just makes for suits that you can make because they all look so different So at the moment I'm making like my interpretation of a dick. Oh, Sue. It's gonna have like web wings It's it's all seven pieces. It's got like for the first time. I think ever I'm using paint markers for the webs I don't know like it's just it's just a whole new process because I know you use them a lot and it's just a whole new process of kind of Exploring ways that I can like work on a suit like I've got everything that I need to do on it It's just as I was about to do it just absolute heavy procrastination here and I gave up But but recently I've been a bit a bit more productive. I've worked on it today I think the gloves are nearly done. Mask is completely done But in terms of that zipper hood I was inspired by Raven clash. I don't know if you've heard of the guy I need to have him on to Dude is absolutely insane like I love his stuff I need to have Raven clash on because Raven clash is one of those motherfuckers his dick co-suit that he came out with was phenomenal It's it's gorgeous, man Like I don't know how to just like recently we've just had an absolute influx of Incredible cosplays at the moment like small small cosplayers as well They're just producing so much heat and no one record like no one gives them like any attention. Sadly like it Just makes me so sad, you know Yeah, I get that that's why I wish the podcast was bigger so that I could like I Wish more people cared about the podcast more so that I could show off these smaller pod like these smaller guys that are doing like good work Hmm, I thought I can get you a list of like names of people that I personally really really enjoy their work And that might help you I'd be down you should send that through you should send it through after the podcast No, I'll have a look through it. I definitely want the podcast to get bigger because I think I've interviewed a lot of people that deserve a Lot of recognition. I think I Think a lot of the time people watch my content for me So when there's another person occupying that space, it's kind of weird Yeah, like if you're watching a market Like if you wanted to watch a markiplier video and then his friend was there with him you'd be like, oh Mmm, you know what I mean, so I kind of get why people don't watch it, but at the same time I wish people did I maybe I'll experiment with making like a shorter Interview podcast series where maybe I cut it up into some of the best parts and then you know all these podcasts or all these Cosplayers that come on get more exposure because they deserve it. They really do deserve it They really do man What I really think would be cool is if you've got like three or four cosplayers all at once and Then like all of them would be talking. I think I'd be really fucking interesting. Yeah different style so it could be like me with like Someone who just does predominantly very clean looking suits or like kind of very bright and happy looking suits You know I mean and I think it would be really cool Just like shoot the shit with a load of people and like kind of critique looking like suits and stuff And kind of talk about their favorite like things a spider-man like I think I'd be so incredible Yeah, I'd love I dude I'd love to like introduce the the wider audience to that because there is such a there's There's there's a circle. There really is a circle among us spider-man cosplayers like a lot of us are friends We all like a lot of us hang out like if you could name a spider-man cosplayer I probably know them and FDM them like there's such a Welcoming and just friendly community among all of us and it's great. It's fun to hang out with I like how you you you changed it from among all of us instead of among us among us Yeah, there are some there are some There are some spider-man cosplayers among us, and that's true. Damn straight there are damn straight there I have one or oh no go on. No you continue you continue. Okay. I have one more question and then we can just shoot the shit for the 27 minutes we have left. Okay. Okay, what spider-man works inspire you like games Like like obscure comic art artists. I know you're gonna say Lieber Bermudeau Yeah That's really difficult actually I've not thought about that for such a long time. Is it no because I've your I wanted to know because your your content is So like the way you make spider-man suits is like you employ such a obscure style that It's either original or you're basing it off of something I Don't I don't I generally don't think I base a lot of my things off a lot of people like of anything specifically I think I just have a really kind of good memory of Things that I've seen and things like I'll take maybe like aspects of someone's like cosplay that I've seen and Kind of implement it into something that I'm working on or it'll be like something that my friend kind of meant like mentioned Just as like a throwaway thing. I think you know that has potential. Maybe I'll keep that a bit I might not use it for a couple months, but When they when the time comes that is something that could be crucial to making like a suit that I want or something like I Think the best thing with spider-man designs is to keep an open mind with them because if you kind of close yourself off and Kind of only think like in a straight line with designs and making stuff You're not really gonna go anywhere and they're all gonna be very they're gonna be really boring looking suits and stuff No, cuz I was gonna say I think the one thing I admire about you as like a suit maker is that you always take Spider-man in the area that I don't think a lot of people would be able to do competently Like I feel like not everyone could do what you do with the spider-man design and make it work And that's not to say that your work isn't controversial I think your work is one your work is one of those things that people either love it or hate it and I'm not gonna lie. I fucking love it every time like every time I see Keen come out with something It's it's something. It's definitely something and I love seeing it. I love looking at it I think you do you do a great job taking the the spider-man design Into places that people would have to be dragged kicking and screaming to go Yeah, you just you can't afford to be You can't afford to have a comfort zone with cosplay if I'm being honest Like there are always things that you can kind of change or adapt especially with suits Such as spider-man's and like what any kind of superhero there are things that there are things that haven't been done That's why there's so many versions of his suit and their suits I really want to do but I just don't know how to yet like um, I Don't know the name you like in the comics where he fights a lecture and he uses like that insulated suit I want to make that but the insulated suit Oh, I want to make the insulated suit boy. Oh, I know you'll probably do it good, but you might lose me on that one I don't like insulated suit. I don't know. I like it. I like the puffy puffiness of it. I just I never liked it. I just thought The couch man or whatever. I didn't like the logos I'll probably change the logos like I don't like the logos I just like the overall silhouette of it like that's my main thing is I love like I love being able to tell what someone's like suit is by that by the silhouettes of it and like But the shapes and the colors like You need that uniqueness to stand out because there's nothing worse like you said earlier About kind of going to a convention and walking down and seeing someone in the same suit is huge. I mean, yeah, I Feel like I feel like a lot of spider-man cosplayers just need to start Then you start making you know, I mean you guys need to break out of your comfort zone and start making It's not easy. I feel like like it's it's really normal to be shy about it Yeah, leave me. I was like my first suit was gonna be a just a really simple looking like ps4 classic suit I had I had like the Mathew De La Cruz kind of like a face shell for it and stuff. It was gonna be it was gonna be gonna Time and then you go back and develop a start name Yeah, and I it's okay to start out with like zentai suits I just think at some point you got a you got a break out of your shell and start making I recently posted the first ever spider-man suit That I ever had that was like handmade Yeah, and it's quite a doozy, but I think It's a very approachable It's a very approachable thing. I think you can do it. I think I think anybody can do it at any age and It's possible. It's definitely a possible thing to do. I do want to ask Since you are you are the dark area of spider-man design you are sort of the I Feel like whenever I'm not gonna like in Sometimes I can't get down with your opinions on spider-man suits Can't get down on it because there are several times where we've been in the VC with the homies like like spider Brian or narrow or or just just sketches aka Josie Big just see big juicy. You see that's right and We'll just be like I don't like this suit and then Keen will be like well Yeah, no If you guys don't oh, sorry, no no no go on Now if yeah, if you guys don't know I don't really voice my opinions on certain suits Mainly because I am in fact I'm aware that my suits opinions on certain suits. Just it's just not good Like it's just not good at all. I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that you're I wouldn't say that they're not good I would just say that like you you like to play devil's advocate, but you're not kidding I'm not kidding. I am I am fully fully serious What are what are some suits that youth that are that are in the mainstream that you just cannot get down with? Oh Any of Tom Holland's Wow Pretty much any of them and my favorite version of his suit is the integrated suit Fuck me I really hate is no way home like the last like the final shot one I really hate it You don't like the integrated suit or no you like the integrated suit. I like the integrated suit But I don't like the red and blue one at the very end There's nothing about it that screams. Oh, yeah, that's good Like it's it's not even it's not even like a tazm 2 classic situation where you have to look and go. Yeah, that's good Yeah, that's that's incredible It's just bland to me. It's nothing Then why do you like the integrated suit? It sounds like you just described the integrated suit to me No, but the integrated suits nice. It's got like it's got fuck white for stars I'm a real sucker for red and black like I just love that and I really like but you don't like that You don't like the the far from home suit I'm not the biggest fan because of the power lord. I Don't know. It's the emblem like if the emblem was maybe Instead of gold if it was white that'd be really nice I feel like that make it more and more tolerable, but at the same time key in Mmm, I know like I don't get me wrong I am fully aware that my opinions are absolutely dog shit like don't don't get a twist. I know It's like hey, don't blame me. I think there are shitties you do. Oh Here's another one. I read I don't like any of the spectacular spider-man suits. Wow I don't like I don't like in one bit. No a single bit the show is good Like don't get me wrong. The show is really really good, but I'm not a big fan Something that might surprise you that I really like the the new animated series who With a big old life like lenses wait the one with the segmented belt and Robbie Damon No Oh my god, I've got it. No Patrick Harris him. Oh That okay, I love I love that suit I get that because even that suit has a bit of an edge to it It's you you've stated before that you like the suit in spider-man one, right? Yes, I love that suit. I get that. Okay, cuz the the 2001 the 2001 suit Okay, so in the tenets in the tenets That suit is sort of like a more of a streamlined classic suit. So I I get that I get why you would like that one And I usually I would like only for it like the recently in the past couple of months I've started to lean towards liking bigger lenses. I don't think I like medium-sized lenses It's either got me really small or really big for me Like you made a mother's cap on masks a while ago and I fucking love that like I love the look of those lenses It's something about them. It's just like I think that's that's like what I like about them the most Yeah, I remember you We had a conversation of VC once about like how much you had a like you just could not get behind the bigger eyes I think it was because we were looking at the the fortnight suit Yeah, I don't I still don't like that suit. I still don't like it one bit What is like give me give me some more examples like what are some really popular classic suits? You just can't get down with I Can't think of any of like on the spot. That's really you mentioned You mentioned the you mentioned the the ps4 classic suit earlier Yeah, that's out of all of like the original suits from that that like From that game the classic is like the one that I can be with the like the most the advanced suit. I hate I Don't like the anti-ox suit one bit Wait, I thought you wait. I thought you said you didn't like the the classic suit in the ps4 game I don't like it But it's the one that I can withstand the most if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, okay I see what you mean away. I really I don't know how you feel about it But I don't like the velocity suit at all the velocity. Okay. Yeah, I can understand the velocity suit. I Just don't Why you know what I mean for me personally it's like why I feel like you could make a You can make a speedster spider-man suit. I think Without making it super techie. I like the the oh fuck my YouTube paycheck just came in nice, I Like the I like the um I Like the idea I like that. I don't like the powers behind it or anything, but I like what the suit was going for I just don't think they needed to make him look like a robot. I think the problem is he looks too much like a robot Yeah, I have to Really funny in that game like the only like the only power-up I used in the game was web blossom Just because it's the most OP it it is it's really busted like it's like all challenge out of the game Or at least I'm doing the the crimes narrow. I'm looking at the junk art official media discord and narrow is literally making Cursed images of himself stacked on top of each other I'm getting the little the preview thing Don't look What's he doing? Oh, that's a good one. I like the spider clan suit the spider clan suit. Okay? I don't like that one too only because the lenses. I like I didn't I'm gonna be honest. I might have plans to make it one day That is that is a really key and suit to make in my opinion Yeah, I might need your like help with like maybe some designing some lenses for it Just I don't I don't I don't want to use the lenses that yet they use some not the biggest fan I want to make a suit this kind of a kin to that suit. I'd be down I I we have like 15 minutes left and we literally were talking about earlier how we can Design it. Yeah, you can also design it after as well like we can like chill out for some more And I do have to I do have to go to class and like an hour. Oh, oh you bitch You bitch. I know No, I because Minky and want to work together to design a classic suit and So I want to sort of I want to sort of get together with you and figure out You said you want to design like a dicko as classic suit with me Yeah, I'm thinking like a very very grubby looking like dicko suit with patchwork and stuff like that's what I'm thinking Yeah, I like that idea Tatted web wings and stuff like There's this on This is one concept art. I grabbed on to a while ago that I Think does something similar I'm gonna I don't want to put it on screen because I don't want to show it To like a massive amount of people without being able to credit the artist Or not even massive amount of people. I don't know how you're just gonna humble myself real quick Yes, yes, yeah, so I think we should do like Like get that same kind of feeling from the left side of it But I like the left side to have the webs originate from the Senate. I like that Yeah, me too. I think that's really nice like I don't really see that a lot I think we can like fuck around with maybe like an aggressive looking like emblem and stuff Can I just say I think it's the new city you made recently It's your new probably Spider-Man's who would like the what would like the Thingalus gloves and shit What's that new mask you made recently is the that is the that was the the um Yes, I you need to keep those like you that that that needs to just be like You know fits so well. I Yeah, that needs to be like my regular lenses. I think so for that suit. It just fits them so well Yeah, I I made it then I maybe made it like a few nights before because I made that mask for the DIY video, which I'm sure all of you watching this video. I've probably watched it yet, but I made that suit and I Didn't want to wear I didn't want to wear the mask I already had because I was going to a con that day. I didn't want to wear the mask I was already Plain I like that went with that suit because it it gets foggy Sometimes they're like my my fog will leave marks on the inside of the lens that are visible from the outside And I was just like well People already know what this suit looks like with those lenses so why don't I just give it a break and You know wear wear some new ones and I did and they actually ended up going together quite well I remember walking to the mirror and actually being like wow these work really well Yeah, it just blends effortlessly like don't get me wrong I love the look of like do you the eyes that you use like I don't I wouldn't wear them Just I just don't like the I don't I don't think it would work for me Yeah, that's the vibe that they give off. It's very it's very you Like it's just a wideness. They can't they look surprised all the time. It's great Yeah, I get that comment a lot. I get people like who are always like what is he gawking at? I I Like I know you said that this new version of it's a v2, right? Isn't it? Yeah, it's the v2 it's supposed to be like the updated version of the of The of the v1, which is the one with the fingerless gloves. Yeah. Yeah, I Personally think I prefer v2 like just form wise like it's got that it's got that professionality to it That is a very key and thing to say because the v2 is The v2 is very I like some people don't like the v2. It's some people prefer the v1 I made a video actually recently reacting to one of my fans critiquing my suits and he Trashed the shit out of the view of the v2 Well, some people were just stupid The only thing I'm not big fan of the insert and lighting it does look very pink But like no, I like that. That's fine. Like I Yeah, I've got friends that are like working with suits like like justice for example He's working on this spider-pan suit and shit slaps like is absolutely gorgeous. I Do wish I gave spider-pan a more Default design instead of just giving him like something very bland because I I remember what I was designing the suit and I was just like oh, I'm gonna make him like sort of like a classic esca design And I remember like looking at Madison wall crawler suit maybe like a few days later. I was like fuck this Looks just like the spider-pan design I made Not that he copied me, but that like it was such a like a common design Philosophy that it could end up being recreated by two people. Yeah, you just look at any like shit Yeah, that's the thing like I don't really have that with my suits luckily But this new suit does like it looks it's gonna be really bad because it looks really similar to Superior because it's gonna have nails and it's like there's no black like Like on the gobs or the like all the hands or the boots It's yeah, it's gonna be a bit awkward because people gonna be like oh my god It's just it's just the Japanese spider-man with a like superior body and I'd be like No Yeah, I those people are so annoying like I hate people who try to assign Labels to your costume like there's there's some people who will go back and look at my Again my symbiote suit. They will see the messy web pattern and they will think hmm Edge of time had a messy web pattern This is my edge of time black suit and I'm like fuck off Yeah, I get compared to edge of time so fucking badly. I just don't get it like I've never I've never understood that power though I'm enjoying I think I'm pretty sure it just starts and ends at messy webs Yeah, it's like they see a medicine exactly clean. I'm like That's it. I've solved it. I've solved the fucking mystery. Yeah, that's like it's It's cringe frankly is cringe. I love how we're just pretty much calling a lot of our fucking followers cringe always good Yeah, I think sometimes sometimes they need a good thrashing. You know what I mean? They get off scot-free sometimes Have it You got it. You got it. You got to give them an old trouncing sometimes Yeah, I agree. I completely agree go kill a couple of them. Just be like that. Yeah Recently just like the spider-man community like not not the immediate people in it But like people around the spider-man community have been just absolutely horrible, you know, I mean, yeah It was like reselling patterns and then yeah, that was literally this weekend That was a one-day sort of small war that everybody in the community Banded together and they were like hey this guy's being a I'm gonna I'm gonna list all the things this guy Like he he not only did he steal patterns from other people and try to resell them as his own to make money He also was a racist a Pedophile He was everything under the Sun and he sent he sent wiener pictures to Jussie I Didn't want that either it was nasty. It was a nasty little wiener I'm sure I didn't see it personally. I'm kind of happy. I didn't yeah He's still got the he hasn't updated his penis yet. It's still on the the 1.0 update if you know what I mean I think he needs to remove the patch if you know what I'm saying Just No, but there's oh, there's so many shitty things coming out of the spider-man community Did did you hear that I'm gonna get my hands on the lotus suit for a video? No I'm getting my hands on one of the Sold spider-man lotus suits. Oh my god. Oh my god. That's insane. I'm not keeping it I'm gonna advertise them here because they said they wanted to clap for it And I'm gonna I'm gonna give them a little bit of the booster clout Big it was it was big bang boomerang They are No one they want some of that fucking probably spider-man clout. They won't say that clout You probably don't actually my fans are insane, but they are sending me Their lotus suit and it's gonna arrive on Wednesday Oh my god, you mentioned to go fucking lost in the mail. That'd be the worst it would be the word I had to sign a contract to get it That's far man. I know but if it gets lost in the mail, that's not my fault We went over that in the contract if that is not my fault But of course, I'm not gonna Intentionally make it lost in the mail. You know what I mean that they they were charging $2,000 like a piece for that thing and for all of you Watching right now. There is going to be an ad on that video a sponsorship So just prepare yourself. I do you know do you know speaking of like prices of like Professional suit companies. Do you know how much elf that charges for a suit? Oh lord Yes, go on. I want you to guess if Spidey latch charges two thousand. How much do you think elf that charges? I Like elf that but I'm scared. I want to say One thousand five thousand five thousand I asked I was like, oh, I really want one of your ramy suits How much would you charge it like me for it? It was like oh for the muscle suit for the face show and for the whole suit entirely to be assembled You're looking around five point like five point five thousand and I was like No, I can't do that I Mean he does great work though is incredible work like is is insane work, but five thousand That's like a car You could drive or you could be spider-man. He know, but he does some like I'm looking at his work right now He's got a nice ass Cyclops suit right now. I'm gonna Just a nice ass for a second. I was like, I mean probably Sure, he does man. I follow his tiktok. He he does some weird posting Like he's all posting. Yeah, he posts like this weird Like Toby McGuire Like face mold that's on an animatronic face and he does weird deep fakes sometimes as well And it's just it's kind of like if I wake up in the morning and I see that it kind of scares me a little bit He's a troubled soul, but he does great work. I I remember I even put his I put his I put his black suit in my his like rainy classic black suit in my video about The rainy black suit saying that like this suit is way better than the one we got in the movie in terms of Actually making the the black classic suit. I was like I I would have preferred this and people People people were genuinely like oh, this suit is not as good as the one in the movie And I'm like it is you're right. It's better Yeah, I really like it like well the one where it's just like um, there's no webs on it. It's just pure black Key it. Oh you cut out a little bit go on. Oh, no, is it just the one where um, it's the one where it's it's the one Where it's pure black and it's the black suit logo, but the top legs go over the shoulder. Yeah I love that. I also really like his venom as well. Like I just think it's creepy shit wait I haven't seen his venom haven't seen his venom Dude, I think I think I saw like the helmet for it, but I haven't seen the rest of it a whole body suit I'm not I'm not ultimately I'm not too hot on the logo Or like just the way it looks in general like body wise, but as a whole it's just it's just great. Oh Wait, I think I'm looking at it. I think I'm looking at it I think his carnage is pretty good as well. Oh, yeah for the little bit. I've seen it's creepy, but I don't like it You're not a big fan. Not a big fan. Oh big fan. He still does great work though Yeah, yeah, you can't fool him too much. No I just can't it's just when he told me about his prices. I was like But I kind of get it because all of the scans that he gets Original like movie scans so pretty much you are getting the closest you can get to a movie suit Yeah So I understand Yeah, even if the price is a little discouraging here. That's probably one of the best deals you could get Yeah, that's like all of my savings Yeah, how are we looking for time? We're we've got about where we actually have to wrap it up now. Actually Man, I wish we had more time. I really didn't really fun actually Yeah, it is a lot of fun to do the podcast and I don't I don't know how to get to a point where People will watch because at the end of the day, I think what I want the podcast to be is me showing off cool people I've met in the community and not a lot of people watch these. So I think I might have to Maybe have some more people on for some videos. Actually, I think I'll I'll ask Zach if he wants to come on Cuz I'm sure he'll say yeah Yeah, I think if we make a if we ever we we ever get around to designing that dickhose suit We should definitely make a video about it I think yeah, it's like a whole group like group can clap like Collaboration I'd love to do that because I do I I am adamant of make with making a suit with you Like I'm absolutely adamant about it. I would be down Yeah, we're so doing it. All right So anyway, I want to say thank you so much for coming on key in of course You can follow key in on Instagram at spy dar boy. That is S P I D A R underscore boy Is there anything you want to advertise before? Not really. I'm just I'm cool as shit. I'm following me through Lee obviously Truth we are about it. That is about it. All right. I want to say thank you To the two of you the I and I literally do mean the two people To a video to two people where that's better than one and that's better than none If you know what I mean. Yeah, unless they click off Because I'm wrapping it up Anyway, I want to say thank you all so much for watching. I really appreciate all of you again Thank you so much key in for coming on and of course suggest in the comments Who you think I should have on and I think any if any of you comment who I should have on I'll know that you're commenting it because you thought because I fucking told you to do it And I also know that you're you're a real one because you watched long enough to get to that portion of the video Anyway, thank you all so much for watching and I will see you guys in the next one of these You know take a bike in bye. Bye. Bye y'all