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Yeah, and then after a little while is fuel my workouts. Yes That's what I'm doing. I'm trying pushing Cal and I always mess up when I try to push calories because If I push too hard it starts to mess up my gut health and then forget it, right? But lately it's been feeling really good. So I'm pushing calories. That's why you guys are seeing me eat more I stuff and I'm in the first Like week of it and I'm just feeling like better pumps and stronger same leanness I'm let's see what happens after a few weeks. That's when I start. So you're the you're the big intuitive guy So are you tracking or no? Oh, no, I don't I'm not I'm just eating more And ice cream last night sounds like my jam right now, you know, you know, I don't I'm not tracking because Honestly, it takes a lot of time and effort right now and I'm not so like Tied to bulking that like I'm okay with like after a couple weeks, you know, reversing out of it If I was like really like Serious about it like I want to gain X amount of pounds of lean body mass or I had a specific goal Then I probably did you see that we had questions on the forum about when we talked about the bulking like for I said at four weeks Four weeks on the bulk one week off. Oh, no, what happened? Oh, you didn't see that. Yeah People were just asking like an example. And so I gave somebody like a generic answer, right? Because obviously I don't know what your core I said if pretend your caloric maintenance is 2,500 calories For four weeks what I would do is eat at 3,000 calories a day And then at the end of that three weeks for one week, I would drop you down two or three hundred calories a day So from your maintenance So I'd drop you down at 22 to 2300 calories for one weeks that you'd live you'd live in a deficit And then when you go back to your bulk, hopefully you can get up to like 3,200 calories So each time you go back to the bulk from the cut Hopefully being able to reintroduce a little bit more calories and just kind of playing with okay So so You know now that we're talking about this I have I'm not tracking But here's what I've added to what I normally because I generally eat The same stuff most days or the same types of stuff most days just creature habits really easy, right? So my my normal post workout shake So after I work out in the morning, I tend to I'll have a shake that I make Which usually consists of about eight egg yolks in water And then I'll have like some fish oil with that and stuff like that Now what I've done is I've added Delicious, I've added one and a half scoops of organified protein powder. Okay, so that's extra So you're going one and a half scoops of organified about 30 grams of protein how many ate yeah from just that right just that So it's an additional 30 grams of protein that I normally don't eat maybe a little more Maybe a little more. I'm also normally my post workout shake is just the egg yolks and that's it But I've done that plus you've seen me now add three rice cakes to that That sounds so weak right rice cakes But that's like 60 grams of carbs. Yeah, right and then after dinner I will have a small snack which usually Probably is around another 300 calories. So I'm probably over bulking six or 700 calories Yeah, I don't know. I mean you got a good amount of lean body mass right now on you I don't thank you. I feel like You don't tell me that enough Listen really what he was doing there right fishing for a compliment. I got it. You got that on camera, buddy Good happen good about a lean body mass. Yeah, I feel like Personally for myself. I feel like I have to eat in more of a surplus to gain And I don't have to do that dramatic of a cut to lean up same thing And I don't know that's I mean that might be our genetic. Yes, I'm sure that there's somebody listening that the opposite is true They probably go. Oh my god. I barely add any calories and I gain weight and but I got a cut like I'm like you same thing If I drop my calories like if I'm at maintenance and maintaining and I'll this is what I'll do I'll drip be like, okay. I'm not gonna have as much rice for dinner Oh, that's a good. I'm glad you just brought that up because we should address this for the the YouTube fools There was always a couple people in there that want to come on. No, did you see I thought maybe I saw you comment I know I commented on it there. There was maybe two or three people on one of the last ones that you know The one where we did white rice. No, no, no about gaining muscle without putting any body fat on God And they're trying to say that it's totally possible right listen to Greg. You said, right? So I yeah, I love on a maintenance. Yeah, that's an easy ology degree. I love that one. Yeah, okay Okay, here's the deal. Is it possible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time? Yes, just like it's possible for me to dig a pool with a spoon like it's the is it likely no It's very unlikely everything that we communicate on the podcast is based off. Well, we made that clear too, right? We've given examples of where it is actually very normal and not hard If you if I get a client who's either never trained or hasn't trained in years You always see that yeah, and they're and they want to lose, you know, 50 pounds of of body fat or more I can put them on a calorie deficit and cut and they will build muscle. Yeah, but that there's a lot going on So it depends on who I'm talking to on how I address it when we're giving General advice, especially to an audience that listens to a fitness podcast I'm going to assume most of you either already work out or pretty damn interested in it or have in the past or recently Worked out. So the advice to that person is, you know, you're gonna be far better off Moving your calories in a surplus if you're trying to bulk in in a deficit It doesn't mean that you can't be in this maintenance and do kind of both I think and I also think that takes a lot of discipline on many levels of your discipline on how you eat and train But even like the mental discipline of not letting the scale and the mirror mess with your head Which when I think of the average person that I trained that that's a challenge for most more than a challenge Yeah, very very challenging. Oh, so speaking of which I've brought this up on the podcast before You guys remember when I've talked about the Colorado experiment with Arthur Jones and so Did you post in the forum? I posted in the forum about that and talking about building muscle and burning body fat. This is a documented example of Absurdity and when I say absurdity, I don't mean that it's this is didn't happen Casey Vidar is Casey Vidar was the guy that was in what there was actually more than him There were actually several people in the study, but Casey Vidar is the one that they highlight because he's he was a pro bodybuilder He's the youngest person ever to win mr. America, which at the time that was a big bodybuilding contest Widely believed to be one of the most gifted bodybuilders of all time turns to just being able to build muscle, right? And this study Till this day is one of the most hotly contested studies of all time It was done at a university there were witnesses and pictures, but the results I If you look this up if you read the results, you think this is absolutely now I didn't I didn't reread that study. We've talked about it many times and Less familiar than you are and I don't have this incredible photographic memory like you Is did they take into consideration that he's probably taking antibiotics or is there proof that he did or didn't too? Because that plays a huge role in it does according to the study. He did not take any antibiotics now back in those days Anabolic steroid use among bodybuilders was very low and it was seasonal at most nobody was on him year-round So is it believable that he didn't take steroids? Yes, does it matter not when I read you these statistics when I tell you the statistics I don't give a shit what you take. It sounds absolutely insane. Here's the factor that I think plays the biggest role in Going into the study. He was already a big-ass bodybuilder. I think I can do this by the way I believe what the position I'm in right now now I know I'm gonna get a bunch of people there and want me to do this and I don't feel like doing this But I believe that and I know where you're going with this. I was at you know, 240 250. I had 210 Pounds of lean body mass. I'm probably like 170 180 lean so I've got a 30 to 50 Pounds of muscle my body was used to having on it just a few years ago. So if I really Scaled my volume increased my calories. I bet you I can make a pretty Aggressiveness now mind you I'm on HRT too. So I have that Although you are you definitely have some some genetic gifts, right? Casey Viadara is on a whole another level and this guy was like 18 years old You should see what he looked like. Yeah, and I know if there's gonna get I'm gonna get a bunch of trolls I'm gonna give them. Oh my god and talk shit. Well, my point is not that necessarily I could outdo that But I could show such German I when I first did my transformation I got called out. Yeah, a lot of people thought it was fake And I'm like thought I was doctoring the photos and doing that. No, it's just I know when you know your body Muscle memory and I think muscle memory plays the biggest role in this So here's let me read the stats first and then I'll tell you something else about the study Oh, well first off the study was conducted by Arthur Jones Arthur Jones is the inventor of Nautilus equipment and what he was trying to do is highlight the effectiveness of Nautilus equipment and Also his method of training which included very low volume, but extremely high intensity. So rather than doing 15 sets for legs you do like three, but it was like Maxed out, you know to failure for straps You did sets where they were just negatives and partial like like you really pushed intensity through the roof But the volume was also super low now check out what Casey Viatter did in the first week the first and this is again This is documented by like scientists and there's pictures still hotly contested though The first week he gained 27 pounds of muscle with seven days. That's one one. Yes ridiculous week 27 pounds of lean Yes, he lost seven pounds of body fat also during that period of time over 28 days He gained 63 pounds. Yeah of lean body. Yeah, I don't think I could do that But you get my point though, right? That's his before and after this is 28 days later. Look at that He so essentially he gained two two and a quarter pounds of muscle per day on average now Here's something that is important. He wasn't on anabolic. Well, here's what I Totally how naive are people? He's got a D ball look right there, right? Yeah now here now hold on a second Okay, hold on say let's back up for a second. Here's this is something that they did admit Casey Viatter went into this as a pro bodybuilder had an accident Went to the hospital. I don't remember what the accident was something with electrical accident or something like that Went to the hospital. They gave him an injection of antibiotics. He had a severe reaction to it lost tons of muscle So the before picture is a pro bodybuilder right after he recovered from a terrible accident completely atrophied So he's got all the muscle memory tremendous muscle memory Incredible genetics and recent to which I think makes a difference. Yes And he trained in a new way was a new stimulus. It was all this other stuff and maybe he did anabolic still 60-pound yeah that no matter how you draw that up that is because here's the thing too. I don't I actually don't think Anabolics plays the biggest role here. No muscle memory in my and including with my argument Yes, I know I'm on HRT and so of course I'd have an advantage. That's not what would make the greatest change Yes, that would assist me. Yes, that would help. Yes If he was or was not on that that plays a roll But the biggest factor was that he had built that much lean mass on his body for so long And he had just one of his physique look like going before he got his accident was a problem to this It was a bodybuilder. Okay. Yeah, was it was it better than what he looks like here? Yeah If he's a pro bodybuilder, there's no way you go pro. Yeah, right So he was leaner and even more muscle, but check this out. I mean all that matters check this out though They had other people in the study. So another guy Built 18 pounds of muscle in 11 days another guy built 18 pounds of muscle in 10 weeks 15 pounds of muscle in six weeks 18 pounds of muscle in four weeks like crazy results Across the board. It's so it's really wild. Now. Here's the deal. I've tried The workouts like this because I read this study remember this study was done And I think it was 1980 or something like that in the 70s I remember reading this as a kid because Mike Mentzer's book heavy-duty was based on the principles of Arthur Jones I've trained like this Does not work. It did does not work for me this way. I've trained clients like this I know I'm terrible to admit. I actually put clients on this kind of training program Never worked for clients this way. I don't know how and this study has never been duplicated But I loved I love bringing it up because it's like this crazy. It's like a phenomenon hotly contested study How long ago was it when T nation? I see this jugs out of T nation article. This is one article I think it was 2016, but they've done other articles. What was their point in this article? They were just showing like it was it was it was documented. There were scientists there It was at a university. I know what's the art? Okay, the Colorado experiment. Oh, he's just they're just saying is it factor Now the author of that article. I think that was in what was that 2018 16 16 16 Ellington Darden is a bodybuilder Ex-bodybuilder PhD who was super pro this style of training. So he's like art. He was like Mike Mentzer So he really promoted this like super low volume super high intense form of training now again I mean I've done this. I've done it with other people. It just doesn't work I've seen I mean I'm not that crazy because there was when I was doing this I was actually doing the bio impedance thing and I was doing the dunk tank on a pretty regular basis So I was constantly tracking and I had some pretty crazy swings nothing like 63 pounds But I mean like 15 pounds in like two weeks like of lean body mass like I've seen easily Yeah, I've seen swings like that on my and I actually have it I'm sure I can go to Aaron with the dunk tank because they they keep it. It's all Tracked we could probably find it probably that would be really cool Yeah, I'll look I'll look at look see if I have some of them laying around still But I mean I I don't think it's that that's surprising or amazing though when you've built the this physique Totally atrophy. Yeah and totally atrophy like I mean it is in my diet my training everything is way blueprint still there Yeah, yeah, I mean we'll respond. Well think about it this way to give you an example If whoever's watching this right now if you're like super experienced with training Put your right leg in a cast for 60 days if you want to do the six I don't recommend you do this by the way But if you know you could try this if you want your right leg in a cast for 60 days Take the cast off it will be severely atrophied then start training it and document how fast it gets back to normal It will blow you away. Oh, yeah So I it's kind of a good conversation we're having right now because I actually do I don't get them as often as I used to Um when we first started kind of growing one of the most popular things and I know these go viral for youtubers Uh, the whole you know showing somebody's I mean there's a guy more plates more dates Like his whole business is built around like looking at other people and and decide helping people decide Is it fake? Is it real? Is he natural? Oh, yeah, people he does lots of stuff. He does lots of stuff. He's a smart guy But I mean that that is something that people want to know I used to get dm's all the time of they'd send me this guy or not brah And it'd be a a picture of someone that made this crazy swing like look how shredded there's no way This is true right? It's only 12 weeks. I'm like 12 weeks I mean I prep for shows in in eight weeks nine weeks If you saw what I look like going into prep and the inter prep like stage ready is dramatically different And so it's not that unbelievable that you see these transfers, especially When you're doing it with the intent to show that so of course you're gonna Puff up a little bit. I'm gonna load some sodium and water the day before I'm gonna look kind of whatever slouched over And then the other one. I'm gonna be Totally dried to bone. I'm gonna be a tanned up like crazy. I'm gonna get a pump I'm gonna pose I will show you and the and the bigger the physique or the person the more dramatic you can show I'm gonna six foot three They showed a lot of videos of that of how to doctor that like completely going into like a before and after And now they've actually you know done that for like in the same day in the same day They'll do the same day. I'll tell you something right now. It's pretty crazy I've done I've done if you go back far enough on my instagram You've done that I show people like nine pound swings in a in 24 hours And show how different my body looks and the only difference is a bunch of water food and And a pump and want to be in the morning one in the morning Flat no calories. No water one the next day pumped up water food. Good lighting. Yeah All that stuff makes a huge difference. I'll tell you what man when I get a pump I look like a different human completely like a different human It's not I mean if you've ever seen me with a picture of my shirt off on instagram Here's a which we have I'm always trying to reveal this to you. I'm always trying to tell I'm always trying to tell the youtubers. Yeah, this guy works out right before here. He's like half the size in real life Hold on a second. Hold on a second. It doesn't last that long Hey, hey, if that was true, you just call yourself out, right? I see me shrink as the podcast every time you're talking He's just You guys don't see him. He has a set of dumbbells right here on the side of his chairs And every time just I talk he's over here doing every time. Andrew switches the camera to one of the other guys That's the only time I let them talk. I need a better pump jumps down Real quick give us 30 seconds of an opinion. You better do it quick because I'm only good for like short bursts Hey, hey, so here's something else. That's really cool. So you guys know that I change the subject for sure. Yeah, I know You guys know that I'll I'll I'll pick I'll get a subject and I'll just go stupid on it and dig real deep And I've been on this kind of like aspirin kick like because I read that's a weird thing to be on Well, no because you remember I brought up all the baby aspirin. Yes And I was so protective. I was so fascinated by it that and aspirin's been around for so long There's so much stuff you could read about it. It's really fascinating. So I'm reading Did you guys know that there was a study that showed That daily baby aspirin was as effective as erectile dysfunction drugs for helping men Achieve erection. Is it just the blood? That's it, huh? Yes just improves blood flow improve the blood flow now This wasn't like a an acute thing like I take viagra and I feel it, you know, I just happened over a long period Yeah, like if you take it every single day a little bit men reported significantly improved Erections from aspirin and they said comparing it to these erectile dysfunction drugs. It's about as effective now really just marketed that way Oh my god. Yeah, but the problem is aspirin's not patented now. Do just I do Viagra and all the other brands do they have aspirin in it? No, they don't no No, no. Okay. Now that's a vasodilator. Yes. So that opens. So Aspirin is an anticoagulant thins the blood. So it through that process increases blood flow Viagra and other Medications in that class are called PDE five inhibitors and what they do I feel like dunks. Are you taking notes over there right now? I've never seen them take I've never seen them take notes during the podcast before his notes right now say take aspirin Asked doctor for Viagra No PDE five inhibitors Inhibit an enzyme that breaks down what's called nitric oxide. So when you inhibit that you get more nitric oxide The cap capillaries open and dilate and you get increased blood flow. So different completely different mechanisms So because I was reading about aspirin and it the comparative agra for erections Then I went and read about Viagra and PDE five inhibitors and I said, you know, these have been around for a little while now They've been widely used I wonder if there's other Effects or potential benefits. Don't you remember see? I mean I saw this in the 90s a lot in at least the gym that I grew up in And kind of an old garage bodybuilder type of gym. There would be uh, I'd see Viagra pills all the time Man, what kind of locker room? So so the Had a lot of fun in there. No, but I mean I remember being told that like it It works kind of like no explode does with the pumps like people swear by using I've never tried it before Um, I would be open to doing it. I just don't I feel like it I never felt like it Viagra played that big of a difference for me. I never really and I've played with it before I've tried it and used it. I don't think it's like the game. I think it really makes a difference for someone Who really has erectile this function. Well, I don't know sure they notice a huge difference Well, I don't know but what I you're right people have used it for performance And it has been shown in studies at least in some Aspects to improve athletic performance in particular altitude. So when the athletes take it at altitude interesting They notice improved performance, especially for endurance type out now, would that get you popped on like, uh, Olympics if you were taking Viagra good question. I think is it controlled. It's probably on the list I would imagine You don't want to take it in some sports though. Yeah, I'm let me take it before my wrestling match. Uh-oh Oh my god, you know that reminds me. I'm watching, uh, you know what show is came back. I guess I'm gonna finish the loop By the way, I got to finish your loop and then I'll tell you this sex education. Okay, so so so yes It's been shown to improve performance. Here's the other stuff. It does reduces heart attack risk strokes Improves a blood vessel health. In fact, they're speculating that PDE five inhibitor drugs like Viagra in the future Maybe prescribed as health something like a health drugs It's just take this low dose on a regular basis because it's good for your heart It reduces strokes. It does all this incredible stuff, right? Yeah, weird. All right. Sorry No, I was no I was interrupting, you know, you know how pissed off everybody gets when I interrupt Sal when he's talking about Just let it finish you've been listening to that too much. I do Viagra's not banned by the olympics. Good. Yeah, there you go. Good news everybody I wonder how many of them actually use it then I bet it's if it's not banned. I'm sure I'm sure it's That's why they had to make those beds super small Remember that no this all this boner talk has got me thinking about the show that I watched last night So I watched that show that's I forget where it's based out of it's It's called sex education. I love it. It's it's okay. Yeah, so it's only yeah, okay So it's the second season and I haven't watched the second season. Yeah, the third one comes out Friday I didn't know that and I for some reason it got buried in my queue or whatever like that so Katrina and I were watching it last night and episode one spoiler rate is like it's uh, you know, he the season one ends with him like Figuring out masturbation like he hadn't figured out masturbation yet. And that's how like season one ends So season two opens with masturbation like right away Like that's how it opens up the scene one of the greatest discoveries And in the the first like three to five minute clips It's it's it's like this. I don't know what you call it's like fat fast cut You know back and forth of him like all the times he's masturbating throughout the day Like running home to get the bathroom and having to like be jogging on the track See girls butts and then run go off in the tree and he's doing it and Katrina's asking me She's like is it really like that crazy? I'm like, you know This is obviously for you know, hollywood reasons. Yeah, it's comical. It's exaggerated a little bit I said I never you know took a right turn off into the forest to jerk off because I saw I never did You say I didn't do that but I do hey I do vividly remember During the those that that first, you know year of finding this out like running home from school Like I do remember that I remember being in school And then like running to get home so I could get the bathroom to myself like I do remember that It's okay women don't and I've told this to my I've explained this to my wife and I've talked to be like And some women might get this I this isn't all men. This isn't all women But generally speaking When you're a a boy you go from having the testosterone of a child To having the highest levels of testosterone you'll ever have at once and it happens all at once And it's overwhelmingly powerful over your behaviors. And yes, if you don't know how to over your thought process You just don't know how to manage it and you're I mean, yeah It's like you discover this thing that's super awesome and you could do it frequently because you're you know So do you guys remember that? I mean do you remember do you remember like that first? I remember the first month like I can remember the first month of like figuring that out I remember the first 30 years after I just What's today's day? Well, I just remember it used to be in class and it's something really boring You know the teacher is talking about and then you get that feeling That's what she asked me about that and I said that's very accurate I said you just it's at that age. It's so uncontrollable thinking about it Yeah, yeah, or even your genes rubbing the wrong way on it is enough to give you that that feeling But the scene there's a scene then Where he is and the egg told her to like this happens for sure like there's this Not very attractive woman, but she has massive boobs and you can see her nipples through the shirt That's all he needs and then he gets excited inside the front seat And his mom's in the grocery store and he starts jerking off in the front seat And she comes back because she forgot like something she forgot her wall or something And it's right when he's orgasm. He shoots on the On the window as his mom. It's like the most I that's how the episode one opens with that dude I'm like rolling. Oh my god. I would never that would be more to fine I remember I have a specific memory that was just it's this is rough because you're right. You'll get an erection Even if you think about it in other words, if you think please don't get an erection now You're gonna get one right so it just happens and I remember in the summer I would go to work with my dad. He'd wake him up at fucking 5 a.m Let's go. So all right and I got to go to work with him and I'm in his work van and I'm half asleep And we're driving and I'm with my dad There's no one else in the fucking car And then I start to get a boner and then you like feel you're like we're dad my dad's here Oh, what's wrong with me? Oh my god, and then more you think about the worst it gets like It was terrible. Oh, it's so awkward. Well, Justin's the one that got caught with the Jazzercise what? Well, because my mom would take me everywhere, you know because like it was like and so I'm sitting in there Like it was like a roller rink, you know where they would do their jazzercise And I'm just sitting there, you know kind of waiting bored and just For some reason, you know, there's just there's women in like those 80s leotard things Things moving and jumping and bouncing around and it just was like And and inevitably I'm just sitting there this huge direction. I'm trying to like, you know face the other direction I'm trying to like cross my leg. I didn't know what to do with it like dude. It was awkward. It was bad That's the funny part that I told her Was accurate that I think is very different as a Grown older man today versus when I was a kid was that I mean to get that you you have to really be in the You're in the moment in your head and think about things and you're just wiser It's not as novel right and of course right but back then like it was it could be so it could be a thing Like you could be like the way fruit is laying in a bowl. You know, it could be it could be weird stuff like that And it gets the brain going and then it's at 17 dude. Nothing's stopping that thing. No, it's yeah, it's it's terrible People don't understand it's such a great show if you guys haven't seen it. I think it's a it's a it's a wildly accurate and funny And it's a really good. Are you up to date on it? I know you watched it too before Uh, yeah, I watched it a while ago. I'm trying to remember like what you're talking about But yeah, it's coming back is is you know the beginning Yeah, I didn't so I watched all season one loved it and then I guess I don't know where what was going on with my tv It season two that you guys remember the first time a girl Touched it Do you remember the first time like I mean not on it? I mean like over your pants I know you remember that doesn't hate we're going in this direction, but I do have this This is important stuff. I remember in if there's a kid watching right now. This is a good pivotal moment Nobody talked to me about this shit when I was a kid I remember in fourth grade that have that was my first girlfriend And we went to help funny is this we went and watched uh all of her in company a disney movie cartoon And she sat next to our parents were all in the back We went sat in the front and she we're in fourth grade and I remember She touched my thigh And I remember getting the most massive erection and sweating fourth grade Jesus Christ I didn't do anything with it like I was scared to death at that point. You're a little kid Yeah, I didn't even know what to do with it right at that point you're you're still So at this point I still haven't I haven't found masturbation yet, but I remember the How embarrassed and nervous and scared I felt like I remember the popcorn, you know over the over the Oh, I remember for me it was then you kept the whole it was seventh or eighth grade I think it was seven So this is like when the shit starts to hit that like this is when you're feeling everything right seventh eighth grade And I had a girlfriend That was eighth grade and I had a girlfriend and she was way more advanced than I was and aggressive And we were making out which already I'm already excited as hell And she reached down and through my pants. She grabbed it and it was like, I don't know man Heaven's gates And you go home and like what just happened Yeah, now do you think there's there's things today as an adult that you guys can draw back To to moments like that that were so impressionable that because of that like ascent Get you in the mood or a certain thing. Well, don't they call that imprinting? Yeah Yeah, yeah, there was a story. I don't remember what book it was like I have smells and scenarios and things like that that just like it's like, oh, no, there's a that's documented Dude That shit got me Yeah, no, it wasn't even the commercial that I did turn on ever since then I got turned on the commercials because like You know my you got a shower thing going on, right? I mean a total shower thing I became a shower big shower guy. I guess now I'm pinning it back to that commercial because dude So she had like the perfect like straight blonde hair and it just smelled like the uh, whatever kind of botanical Sent that was Like even if I was walking down the hall It would just it would get me. I would almost be paralyzed to this day I because a lot of my first Sexual experiences as a kid happened And I had a girlfriend who was wearing a vanilla victoria secret lotion So that right there. So there you go that lotion is like the lotion all my candles are vanilla like I that is forever Imprinted in me that that smell I love that smell and I know it's because of that, right? I know that a lot of my first were with this girl when I was a kid And she wore that type of victoria secret so there was a so this is documented I forgot what book it was in but this they talk about this situation where this kid Was masturbating and at the moment of orgasm a spider was crawling either on his arm or his leg Oh, wow And because of that what happens it's you get imprinted on sometimes because of that it became a fetish To where he would like bugs crawling on him when he would masturbate and it became and they use that as example Because it's so strange. He's in the bathroom reading charlotte's web. Just yeah So I have so we're playing tell all here now, right? When I was a kid the first the first time a girl ever touched me down there I was deathly sick She came over to check on me and bring me over like soup brought back to life and so he's not breathing So to this day, I could be sicker than a dog and I'm like sexually aroused the entire time It's the funniest thing ever that to your spider point, right? That like who doesn't want to be resuscitated that way That's way better. Yeah I brought him back to life. He taught me CPR. Wow, that's great, honey I just I mean usually you go mouth, but I know we're going way off and Doug's probably cringing over there But I can't edit this whole thing out. I mean, honestly, though It's like it's I find it very fascinating that we that something like that can happen that I mean when you're 15 years old or whatever and it's this is shaped like so this is why you guys know the old it's still kind of a fetish thing like the whole bdsm thing Where people you know submit or dominate whatever, but you know the classic like spank me And that was a thing for a while where it was instant like a joke or whatever and some people are still turned on by this But it was like a big thing where people got turned on by getting paddled in the butt. You know what they connected that to Adolescent authoritarian adolescent boys going through puberty going to schools where that's the punishment So you're in seventh or eighth grade and the nun come here You you fucked up again getting paddled in the butt and because you're in that state of mind or whatever and you get an erection Now you get imprinted and you like getting paddled in the butt Yeah, I read about that and is because of that is there a do you know because obviously paddling in school is dramatically decreased So is that I actually read an article that said no way that that that it was around that time Where it became it became like a big thing until this day people are still but that specifically they said Is you know that's interesting. I could I tell you what so has that I mean did you did that article say that Furriers to me did it furries. I'm guarantee someone had was on a You had when you were a kid you had a big old thing of stuffed animals Oh, that's what it imagine being a kid and you were you know got stuffed animals all around you and that's bears I mean, I mean I mean, I don't know. I might have done that when I was I mean completely speculating right now But so that so did the article say that that that has declined Say that but they did connect it to that and it's coarse. It's pure I'm gonna take a sound he's on a watch list right now All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna Take a turn here. I'm gonna take a turn here. I want to I'm excited till I don't listen to a lot of podcasts Um, we just were so busy and I have kids and all that stuff But every once in a while, I'll tune in to certain podcasts. I love Order a man Ryan Mitchler, right great interviewer. Yes. I was just gonna say that He's one of the few people so I've been on his show. I think two or three times The way he interviews is so he's so good at it. He takes the conversation in interesting areas It doesn't feel choppy or like he's very professional very very good. And if you listen to him interview other people He's actually in my opinion becoming one of the best that I've heard they have an episode coming out He's an interview Ben Shapiro. I was gonna he has Shapiro and Crenshaw coming up right now Saw him post about that the other day. Oh, bro. He's getting huge. Yes. So I'm excited to hear that because I It's been really fun to watch him. I remember when we first met him like uh, We weren't even that excited to meet him to be honest, right? Because at that time We didn't know who he was really we just knew he was gonna be in the area who we was we were either I agree. No, I I think we that's how our relationship got built which is always fun Right when you meet somebody, you know, you're not really that excited to meet each other And then you kind of like hit it off I remember us all sitting in that room at the Tahoe house that we rented And first time in each other and just having this like kind of open Which you could go back and there's a there's definitely a mine pump episode Way back when probably in the 300s or so somewhere in that range where we all connected for the first time I think he's not talking about the you know, the decline of testosterone amongst males I think that was that's what we talked about. Yeah No, he does a really good job And if you're like for me if I'm interested in listening to a particular person on a podcast, let's say I'm looking up Like Ben Shapiro who's who he's interviewed, right? Let's say I'm I want to hear him say certain things If I see him on order man, that's where I'm going because he's got the he does such a damn good job No, he and I remember even back then We all said it afterwards Like well, that was one of the better better people that have ever interviewed us the way he controlled and directed the interview I think he takes his job very seriously and there's the other reason why he is scaled to where he's at I know it's a good story. All right. So more cool science. Okay A study came out as an animal model. So this was a mouse study However, it's been speculated in humans as well, but very interesting in this mouse model They demonstrated that a high sodium diet had potent anti-tumor effects So they gave mice cancer They gave uh, some mice cute till he said that they gave some mice a low sodium diet moderate sodium high sodium So they split them all up the high sodium diet and they speculated that this would happen Significantly reduced tumor size it killed That's interesting sodium. Yes, because wouldn't you Wouldn't you have to increase their calorie intake in order to do that too or do they just shoot straight shoot? No, I think they just added it to their diet, which is interesting because with cancer almost everything fuels cancer You're right. Yeah, so that's really interesting that giving giving it more actually had a Suppressing effect on well high sodium had can have an inflammatory effect. Now when I say that I people hear that as bad Uh, extra exercise can have an it has an inflammatory effect. What it does is it stimulates the pathways Uh, that that have to do with inflammation that also have to do with immune function So like for example, if I hammer your your your inflammation way down, okay, you have no immune, you know No inflammation. Yeah, you're not going to be able to recover from exercise and I can be able to rebuild Cancer will probably go crazy in your body. You'll get sick very easily because you need that To fight certain things. So through the Inflammatory process. This is what they said in the study. They think that's how the sodium had such a potent anti-tumor effect So I wonder if they're going to couple that because right as of now, right? Hasn't the the ketogenic diet been accepted as protocol for cancer treatment now in some in some cases It's got anti-cancer so others not so much But and the ketogenic diet is is going to be relatively low on sodium unless you supplement for it or make sure you add A bunch right in comparison to the traditional american diet That's a really. Oh, yeah, probably so I wonder if they will Right if they'll start to recommend like a You know ketogenic diet with you know high sodium paired with it as a protocol for that Wow, that's very interesting. Yeah. No, that's now the reason why the ketogenic By the way the ketogenic diet for cancer is very different than the ketogenic diet for like workouts It's very it's also low protein. Yeah, so that that's a medical keto great It's like 70 fat in a little some protein and no no carbs at all And really what it is is why it's so beneficial is it's starving the cancer cells, right? Yeah, that's the theory behind why the ketogenic diet is so beneficial Yeah, so a lot of cancer cells not all we've actually identified some cancer cells that can run off of ketones But some cancer cells many cancer cells They they're unable to utilize glucose for energy. Oh, excuse me Unable to use ketones for energy. So if you starve them of glucose and don't give them a lot of protein to convert into glucose And the rest of your cells can run off of ketones the cancer cells become weakened And die fast thing will do this by the way too fast things probably the most effective way to do it because you don't give them anything And cancer cells are way more susceptible to dying from not getting you know nutrients than healthy cells Have you guys heard about this new city that they're trying to develop somewhere here in the west coast and like a desert area Just called city of Tulosa. I believe it's called. Yeah, so it's like a trillion dollars They're trying to get all these investors involved in Basically creating the city of the future like the most like they're calling it the woke city. Is that what they're calling it? Yeah, like it's it the whole thing is I mean, I love that idea It looks pretty cool. Like like utopian ask In terms of like a futuristic Low energy What is great about living in a free country like we are now and not in a socialist or communist world Is that nothing stops a bunch of billionaires who think that running the country that way is a good idea Go put it to work. Go put it to test. Yeah, I love that. I hope they do that if it's uh, The bane of money power intelligence is the arrogance and so these and this is my opinion back by I don't know decade Over a hundred years of evidence when you do do you centralize and plan things from the top down? It just doesn't work. You don't have the accuracy of of signals like the price markets You don't have the ability for things to uh allocate resources effectively. That looks cool. I mean it looks like what's that city? Is it singapore? It's not singapore. It's somewhere That's right. Yeah, singapore looks like that or dubai, you know, by the way One of the freest markets in the world. I think in fact if I'm not mistaken. They're like number two On the heritage freedom. Yeah, well, they're talking about having cars that can fly and all that kind of you know So is this is this like just a pie in the sky? Yeah, is this really something they're trying? They've already raised a bunch of money in that direction. So wow. Yeah, let's a city. It's like they want to make sure everybody Okay, so what it what's the crux of it? Like what is the equity? Yeah So equality and equity mean two different things right equality would be equality of outcome So then all these people will have vested interests in the city themselves. Is that what you're saying? They're just basically saying like look at fair inclusive Why those are all buzz terms to get everybody to say oh, that sounds amazing What I really want to know again is the the the true crux or foundation to this There's gonna be a lot of planning a lot of planning from this from the top down a lot of central planning now. Here's the Here's the uh the plus side. Equitism is that's a word? Equitism and inclusive That was making it feel like they yeah Just came up with this Now here's the here's the part of it. Here's the part of it that I think is okay when you're planning something from the top That dude looks woke. He does when you're planning something from the top It's easier when it's small for example I could do that with my house of course five people When you do it to 500 people much harder five million people so a city They have a better chance than they would if it was a country I still think it's gonna that's like if you go into a place like all homage people are go into one religion and try and Move everybody it's gonna be a lot easier because everybody has the same core beliefs You can't do that in america. That's a good point in america. You got everybody in all different beliefs and directions It's going to be constant pulling but that's the beauty of of our country and the that the ability that everybody can go In any direction they want you try and create this tiny little now Is this going to become a neo modernist cult? That's my question. Oh, yeah That'll be great. Well, I think this is what I think that I mean I really believe that the Googles and the apples are building in this direction indirectly already with their little cities And I mean we have google get ready to take over all down here. You know that right? Like they're gonna own like all the all the buildings and housing and you know, I don't mind this There's a fire sale right? I don't mind. I don't mind this for two reasons one. It's their money Okay, spend the best you want to I think you made a great point adam The kind of people that will go there are pretty much hand-picked There's probably going to be a lot of homogeny when it comes to ideas and thoughts and direction You take a bunch of educated tech Driven people and you put them in a big city and they all have the same ideas a lot of people You're working together It's going to work better than if you have a bunch of people with different ideas So I would be interested to see what happened my prediction based off of what I've read Is it's going to either radically change based on the fact that it's going to fail According to how they want to do it or they'll just give up I mean I love stuff like this and I think that I mean this is the answer to the big You know capitalism versus socialism type of debate is like what's cool in a capitalist society You can still build a socialist society not the other way around. No, you can't do so go for it Go I wish that every other city was ran by its own little independent You know Socialistic ideas and you could choose to live there or you could choose to live out in the next city Overwork and the buy-ins a pretty steep price point. You know, I'm sure so whatever And you but you know what the kind of along those lines the state system is like that Kind of kind of right. I wish it was more like that You're right And it used to be states used to have a much more power than the federal government But there's enough difference between states to where here's an easy metric Where are people moving to and where are people leaving? And then you can look at the policies and and and it'll point it'll point in the direction It's interesting to watch that right it is very true and you can look at that and see like, okay Lots of people leaving your exit is happening here. Yeah, lots of people leaving places like this Lots of people moving to places. I mean you could make those some arguments though that that has more Reasons for economics than it does for of course like oh, yeah, no social ideas and things Well, no, it's all of it, but economics has got to be the top Of course, you know most most people I know that are that say they're leaving california Yes, they might hate a lot of our politics and policies and shit like that But most of them just like I can't afford it just I can have which is part of which is policies Yeah, a lot policies influence that heavily. I mean part of it too is that this the supply and demand There's only so many houses on the coast of california and yeah, it just keeps driving up new developments Also, there's a huge tax and business burden in california california is the worst one of the worst places to open a business You're gonna have one of the highest tax burdens the regulations are Insane here. So you talked about housing. Do you know how insane it is to try to build new developments in california? You I mean We've been and I can't wait so we can go back and listen to this You've been arguing with me for last year and a half about this bubble popping and I've been telling you It ain't popping anytime soon because basic supply and demand I mean I I just read an article that said that we're somewhere between 1.5 and Five million underbuilt homes. Yeah While meanwhile by the way with the millennials now hitting the peak age for buying a home Is the largest pull of people ever to come into the housing market to want to buy and they're more educated They make more money and so they're capable of buying travels easy and go on all their trips So this this this run that we're seeing and then you add in the the fact that we keep printing money to help it out and All oh, I think it's gonna pop but I agree with you Here's the thing though And that's why I keep because a pop to me is an artificially inflated thing and when you pops there's this big crash I don't think this is artificially propped up I think it's a simple supply and demand issue And I do think it will get plateaued with a small dip and that what that will look like is once we finally reach Enough homes that are available and then and we're not fighting for you know, 10 people fighting for one It'll start to flatten out and you'll see a tiny and you'll see a dip because everybody right now when they post their home for sale Are reaching 20 30 100 grand over and then when there's enough supply that'll level it out with a slight dip And then we'll be back again. Well, so here's this is a weird argument for me because usually when I argue a point I want to be right. This is a weird one because yeah I I I I'm arguing a point that I hope is wrong Because you're right supply and demand drives all that but supply and demand is what's affected by policy So supply of money right printing lots of money Artificial low supply of housing from regulation Demand could be skewed because of market signals or it could drop considerably if if inflation goes Through the roof and then people lose their buying power now the demand goes down But this is one of those arguments that I hope you're right dude. I really hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong Well, the truth is that I mean if it just keeps going the way even if I'm wrong and your bubble pop theory does happen And we lose, uh, you know 35 equity in homes Uh, we're still going to be significantly on top from where we were just two years ago All the people that got crushed in 2008 were the people that bought That did those adjustable loans and bought towards the end of it But if you bought your house in 2002 and you know, you saw this huge Jump in 2008 and crash. Yeah, and you were still okay. And you didn't pull out a hundred two hundred thousand dollars You know, I pulled I pulled out of my condo. I remember I pulled out 60 thousand dollars. That's part of what hurt me You know My condo at one point was worth that I bought it at that's by the quad or three Actually, I actually learned about tax strategy and what made me do it It was actually it was actually a smart move from that perspective I had bought a brand new truck at the time, which was probably a $70,000 truck back then and I was making monthly payments on it Well, that interest that you pay on monthly payments for a vehicle like that is not taxed right off But if it is it was uh the interest on a home loan So I took a home equity line out paid off the truck completely So now the tax that's being paid on that a lot of people did that that was a massive write-off They called that using your home like an atm A lot of people did that and yeah, and when you I mean as a kid when I mean I was kind of a kid I was 22 years old a kid at 22. Yeah, right. So I have 22 years old Look, obviously now I do things completely different. I would never do that now But it seemed logical. We got a half a million dollar house. I only have 320 That I paid for it. I put I think 20 rough almost 20 down on it back then Seemed okay, but I mean nowadays you don't have anybody getting loans like that You can't get a house right now without putting a minimum of 10 to 20 percent down Yeah, so everybody's got that in it and then they also have the equity that's been built over the last year or two years So I just don't see a massive Pop I maybe see a plateau. I hope you're right Real quick. I hope you're enjoying the show head over to drink l m n t dot com forward slash mine pump Get a free sample pack of the best electrolyte powder you'll find anywhere It has the appropriate levels of sodium to give you better performance And a better pump again. It's drink l m n t dot com forward slash mine pump All right, enjoy the rest of the show first question is from frittato. No insta What is the best way to get a pump for a photo shoot for every body part of the body with body weight only? Hey, this is a great question for sal right here because he's got this mastered for our questions I know it looks that way But this is flat. I don't know how was it when you're backstage with all those guys Actually, they're uh, yeah, I want to know about this pump each other and who is the designated like tan paint guy Well, those these are two different things you guys just picture adam in the bag like hey, your pump looks good easy guy easy guy so Yeah, we did you you have bands backstage. I mean that's like you're extremely common and So I think the part that like someone who's getting ready for a photo shoot The you'll air out pretty quick But there's a couple things that I think that are super beneficial to to know what to do like sodium loading Uh hitting the the water the water the carbs kind of timing all that and then also getting the pump I think we'll keep that kind of filled out look whereas if you do and I and I notice things like, uh If I did something more slow digesting carbohydrates I would maintain my pump longer than if I did something that was kind of fast acting fast acting quicker pump right away Like if I was about to get on stage in a few minutes having something that was like quick sugar I have an alcohol you see some guys will take a shot or do something like that Uh to to get a pounding in a bunch of water too, or is it uh not a lot I don't know a bunch like so just enough for stage Yeah, you would you would deplete down a little bit on your water And then right before you get on you load a little bit and everybody's body's gonna be different Like how much you want to take in so for me it would be like 70 grams of carbs and a half gallon of water About an hour before I uh get on stage or present or a photo shoot And then literally right before the photo shoot or right before you walk on stage You're getting a full body. It's I'm doing push-ups. I'm doing lateral raises. I'm doing chest flies with the bag Where do you hold your camera? So I'm You know figure that out. You know what's funny about this is that uh lean looks better than big in photo shoots Sure. So and this is important because I think Sometimes people get concerned with like I need to be bigger and so they do the carbs and the sodium end up Holding water and they just and maybe you get a better pump. You just don't look as good Well, I mean, who am I talking to right now? What body fat percentage are they at with that? Totally because you're you're at the elite level, right? Well, yeah And what will kill you though to your point though I mean one of the hardest things about so I never I don't think I ever truly bought brought My best physique to stage when I was judged It's extremely difficult to time this Pump or this perfect look when they're judging it really is hard and everybody's body is so different And depending on how much muscle you have this time around and your metabolism I mean all this stuff matters And what would happen is a lot of times I would be I would be so afraid of what you just said of like Taking in too much that it gives me kind of bloated looking or what in the bodybuilding community We call it like over spilling, right? So having too much carbs or calories and they're being stored as fat Right and holding on to too much water that I would kind of play to your like you said like I want to stay lean And that will present better But boy, then then after I would judge in the morning I'd be like, well, that's mainly when they decide, right? So you can come into the night show a little softer whatever you want Then I would fuck with things I go eat a whole bowl of pasta and Pound a half gallon of water and then you see my photos at night I look 10 times better than when I got judged. This would happen to me a lot So there is a there is a fine line in that but this to your point Getting as lean as you possibly can is the best strategy For a photo shoot or getting on stage and then You know loading up with a little bit of carbs and and water before right before you go in like an hour before you go Into your shoot. Yeah, and I think the best strategy. I don't know it's for me at least I haven't done I didn't I didn't compete. I only did one real photo shoot This is way back in the day when we did maps anabolic And I did better doing kind of like light band work and going from body part to body part rather than like just doing shoulders And then go into chess. It was like, you know push-ups band rows laterals You know band curls. Yeah, that's what you do push-ups and you just kind of yeah I went through you run like a like a like a light circuit. That's again You're just trying to get a pump you don't you don't want to be hot and sweaty and get too crazy But you're just I'm doing push-ups and and then I get up and I do lateral raises You're not doing a workout curls. Yeah. No, you're just pumping blood Yeah, just pumping blood But what you have to understand is because you're just pumping blood in there like it'll It'll go out like, you know, so it doesn't you don't hold that pump for hours So you literally want to do that like right before the photos or right before you get on stage But you can do things with water and carbohydrates and sodium Leading up to it to help that but that takes a little more practice and experience to probably nail down exactly what your body needs And I could never give you the formula on a podcast not knowing your body your metabolism all those things Yeah, and then for compounds you can take that might help like citrulline This is what you find in pre-workout supplements that can increase blood flow. Maybe it'll help with the pump You could try, uh, you know beetroot powder. So that that can do a little bit of that Uh pick nodgin all I hope I think I'm saying that right is another compound That can increase nitric oxide and help with a little bit of the vascular in the pump But none of this matters if you're not really lean I mean, I just want to say that because yeah, if you're you know, you're if you're a guy and you're You know 10 body fat you're pretty lean in real life But on camera, it's not going to make that big of a difference if you get it, you know If you do the water and sodium I'm talking like you got to be shredded for this to really make a difference Not just lean, but actually shredded. Well, I imagine this person who's getting ready for a photo shoot is that's the point Sure, you know, I would think that that that's I hope there or I'll see how you're right That doesn't there's nothing you can do now here's something that this is what was Often communicated in the bodybuilding space and I can see where this has got value They always say don't get your legs pumped like don't don't pump up your quads Before you got on stage because it's hard. It's harder to flex them in Produce trations Now personally I could totally see that when my quads get really pumped. I could flex them. They look big But I can't bring out the like separation. It's like too much blood in the muscle so that and that's That's a one of those things that's what do they call that like uh, you know Anecdote. Yeah, and bodybuilders communicate it all the time. So Next question is from hoop golf 89 Does lifting reduce flexibility? Nope. No, this is like up there with one of those bad myths. Yeah Sticks around no dress that recently. Yeah, actually they did they actually don't have studying athlete They have okay. So first off we have to define a flexibility When we talk about flexibility on the show typically what we're referring to is Functional flexibility. So that means Your range of motion that you actually have control and strength over not passive flexibility like my 10 month old son I could put him in the splits, but he's got no stability in it very unstable He doesn't have strength in it, right? It doesn't count if you have lots of range of motion with no strength In fact, that's actually instability that'll increase risk of injury So what you're looking for is being able to move through ranges of motion But also have strength in those ranges of motion And full range of motion resistance training It does exactly that like if you do full good controlled squats You now have strength in that full range of motion if you do Full range of motion flies or rows or pull-ups Whatever range of motion you train in you have strength in it and you can increase that range of motion and studies Now support. I imagine that's sort of the caveat though is the full range of motion workout As opposed to what you might see sometimes if you're in like in a body building Sort of a set where we're just going half wraps or we're just trying to focus on Muscle tension and you know and you're building certain patterns of movement That your body now is prioritizing and then trying to take You know that that sort of program and then apply it to Something you know sports related you've seen sort of a disconnect there by the way that you've trained So the way that you train does in fact impact You know Using it functionally, but that that would happen over a quite a substantial amount of time. So In terms of flexibility itself though if you're doing full range of motion having strength in that range of motion it increases That flexibility but strength in that flexibility, which is and you got you have to compare apples to apples too, right? Because what you're saying is absolutely true, Justin, but here's what the problem people will compare A well-developed muscular person who trains Without full range of motion, right? So you train like a bodybuilder and then they'll compare them to like An athlete or somebody that trains in full range of motion be like look that bodybuilder so tight And immovable. Oh, that's not a good comparison. That's not fair You want to compare the bodybuilder to someone who's inactive. Do they have greater range of motion and greater flexibility? Absolutely Now the problem is like like Justin said you get really strong in a short range of motion Now you can generate a lot of force in a particular range of motion You move outside of that and you don't have a lot of strength in that It's problematic at that point. Oh, yeah, it could create big problems Like if you can you know if I can generate a thousand pounds of force going straight ahead But to the side it's you know a hundred pounds of force and I move forward real fast But then all of a sudden I got a cut you know that that could cause some problem You've seen this though, too And there was a movement especially in baseball where it's like you don't want to get your chest or your arms too big Because it felt like it would restricted the mechanics. Yeah, which was totally false. If you unless you're like Mark Maguire Yeah, exactly. Look at look Bo Jackson. Look at like these Incredible like physiques that that started to emerge in how you know amazing Their performance was it wasn't you know, it wasn't the muscle that was bound You know that that wasn't the the factor. It was just the way they were training Yeah, and uh to that note if your arms get bigger and your legs get better You might have to change your technique a little bit exactly like I know in in yes in jujitsu You know, there's a lot of positions where you like for example, chokes, right rear naked choke Well, if your forearms and arms are big it might be harder to get underneath someone's chin to do a choke Or if you have really big massive legs A triangle choke might be a little bit more difficult, but there's ways you can do variations stuff like that So for athletes listening if you do build size make sure you practice your technique still because otherwise you're in a new body And your old technique now is hard to to to carry over Next question is from elissa daybook Can you become dependent on supplements such as multivitamins or is that a myth? It depends on the supplement Multivitamins no like if you're well anything that your body naturally produces on his own and then you take it Through a supplement Absolutely. Yeah, a lot of that stuff you get what's called a negative feedback loop, right? So like hormones for example, if you take a hormone your body may stop producing that hormone If you drink caffeine or take caffeine because of the way caffeine affects the body It attaches to particular receptors your body then starts to down regulate their receptors and turn them off This is why when you have caffeine the first time you feel so much of it And then later you need more and more of a higher dose to even get that effect But other things not really like if you know like vitamin c or b vitamins or you know vitamin d stuff like that. No your body Utilizes it or doesn't it doesn't really you don't become dependent on them Fish oils and natural components like that. No, either dependent I would want to know more what he means by dependent too, right? Are we talking about like dependent because you're addicted to it or dependent because the body now Stops producing it like and you need it, right? Yeah So I'd want a little bit of clarification on what they mean by dependent because to that, you know Back to the testosterone point like I'm taking testosterone. So absolutely my body's going to down regulate its natural If I was already low, I'll be even lower Because I'm now taking it. Um, you know exogenous. So for sure, um, but It you're not going to be a uh dependent as like addicted to it to where you have to take it Yeah, but the body does have a lot of these mechanisms like cholesterol is a great example So you can eat cholesterol And what'll happen is your liver will produce less To balance it out. So and this it's a wonderful mechanism the human body has a lot of animals don't do this by the way They old studies on cholesterol used rabbits. They would give them a high cholesterol diet and the rabbit's cholesterol will go so high It'd be scary doesn't really happen with humans, which is why they've removed cholesterol off that You know nutrients of concern list So a lot of compounds, uh, don't do that and others do it depends on what you're talking about But like if something has a profound effect on you if you take like an herb for example, like you take horny goatweed That's a good one And you're like, oh my god, my libido is boosted. I could feel man. I could really feel this working Keep taking it and you'll probably notice it has a diminishing effect. Now all that being said I still think that um, I still think there's some things that we we don't fully know yet And there's stuff that I know we can talk about that we've seen in our experience with Somebody who gets most of their nutrients through whole foods versus supplementing on time just seem to do better They do So and you know, there's some theories around that but there's some things that I think that we don't still fully know Why that why that is that you just don't get some delivery system there Right, there's there's for some reason the way we were supposed to consume those nutrients is still superior Then to how we figured it out through well Find show me in nature where you would find pure vitamin c with nothing else There's nothing else no cofactors. No sugars. No fibers. No other compounds, right? Uh, there's you don't find isolated Nutrients in nature. It's always comes with a lot of different things Um, so yeah, you're you know, you take an iron from food You'll absorb it differently. You're less likely to build, uh, you know toxic levels of iron same thing with other nutrients and compounds So that's a great now here's the problem Someone's like, oh, well, I'd rather have it from food, but then they don't eat good So now you've gotten the worst of both worlds Well, I think it's yeah, and I think it's different in today's age with all the fortification of vitamins and minerals that Make its way into almost everything Versus like back in the day where you know people would have rickets or you know from real deficiencies because it just wasn't available You know in the diet and things so I think back then it mattered a lot more In terms of like getting certain vitamin vitamins and nutrients But today we they pretty much stuff it in most foods. That's why that's why salt has iodine You ever notice that just regular old table salt They literally made it like a rule that you had to add it in the in the salt because people had iodine deficiencies I mean at the end of the day, I think it I think there's tremendous value in everybody listening Doing blood work and getting a full panel and seeing where that's the best Where you're at that's the best and and because and and do that a couple times so you get a you know and spread it out So you can get kind of an idea of what you're more than likely There'll be some consistent things that you'll see there for example with mine. I'm I'm consistently low on vitamin D I mean, yes, if I get more sun exposure and stuff like that it seems to be a little bit better But historically I almost always test low. So I'm all consistently even more important these days to look at Dude, that's a great especially that's a great example I take 10 5 to 10,000 I use a vitamin D and I've been doing it for years and my levels are always in the middle So like you would think oh, you're gonna take too much, but I test regularly So it's like I apparently I need to take yeah that much vitamin D I know people that they took vitamin D got tested. Oh, it got too high Yeah, so you need to know because if you don't know you could be doing some even supplement I mean, I just noticed from coaching and being out in the sun over the past few months My elevated mood and just like energy and everything is insanely better So just getting outside as much as you can is big big factor too Next question is from our goldstein 76 How can I combine the maps prime exercises to create a daily routine that will rapidly increase the mobility in all my joints? I'm concerned that if I just choose a couple of random exercises from each zone I may end up missing some of the smaller joints Yeah, so think of it this way you want to do a couple general whole body mobility movements And then you want to place special emphasis on the areas that you need the most work where you struggle the most Yeah, it's not unlike, you know how bodybuilders work out like a really good bodybuilder will go to the gym And they're trying to build a very balanced aesthetic physique. They're not building everything equally right? They're going to go to the gym and say I need more lats and I need more quads So there's more work done there They're not saying let's get everything to grow at the same proportion because now I'm going to look Just as unbalanced as I did before it's a similar strategy So you want to work through the whole body? But your special emphasis is on those areas that you need help because I'm going to tell you, you know When you when you really need really wanting to improve mobility in a trouble area Consistent daily frequencies enough of it. No, you won't do you won't overdo it So you're better off picking the most egregious area and focusing on that even if you failed all three zones, let's say Pick the one that is the work that is the you failed the worst And that limits you from doing some of the most important movements with good full range of motion Or with that's going to unlock all kinds of right and just and just Go at it, you know go be doing practicing those movements two three times a day See, I I prefer only one or two movements Really like one or two movements that are that are going to benefit you and that one of those zones and then just Doing those multiple times a day as much as you can until you see significant progress there And then you don't stop those behaviors But what's cool is that when you unlock that new range of motion and you and you get to the point where you're you've perfected that movement Now you can do strength exercises in your routine that just promote that range of motion And so I don't have to do the the the combat stretch right and the 90 90 stuff as much as I used to because I've worked on it so much now if I just do Astagrass squats or do like full overhead extensions for like zone one now those things promote That great mobility and I don't have to address it as much. Well, let's just talk about Focusing hyper focusing on your ankles and what that did for every part of movement after that, right? It's like a cascading effect that goes up the kinetic chain Where that was like at Such a point of focus where if you know, you were able to regain stability regain that that type of mobility now I can unlock all these other movement potentials with squatting with You know even doing overhead pressing and being able to stabilize and control better So it's just like that's why we want to hyper focus on like sort of the most difficult area because a lot of times That's sort of the root of what uh everything else has has gone off from Yeah, it's funny because maps prime is the one program that we have that Every single person watching or listening will gain tremendous value from it It doesn't matter what your workout is. I don't care. It doesn't matter what level you are It doesn't matter. It will improve your ability to do whatever you're doing On your own at all of it. It'll improve your performance. It'll improve your ability to build muscle It doesn't matter if you can have targeted mobility work improve your functional flexibility in very specific ways for your body No matter what you're doing you'll get better at it So it's like the one thing that I think everybody will benefit. This is such a common question though Like normally it's around fat loss or building muscle like everybody always wants to know like what is the most I can do At once to get the most results the fastest I possibly can it's like it's just It's not a winning strategy to go after it like that It's like look at one or two things that you were never doing before that's going to benefit you the most in one of those zones And you cannot do too much of it between every commercial We recommend at least three times that you know three times a day in there It doesn't say you can't do it nine times a day like you are trying to to create better movement patterns The more you practice it the better off it's not like working out. It's different. You're not you're not You know tearing down breaking down muscle by doing this We are just we're training stuff neurologically and that the more we do it the better off you are so instead of Throwing all kinds of different signals at it all at once and trying to do that as much as possible And overloading it and getting to a place where you can't commit to it Stick to one or two things and just practice it like crazy until you see a significant difference Excellent. Look if you like our information on our podcast on our shows you'll love mind pump free.com head over there Check out all of our guides We have guides to help you build muscle burn body fat help you with nutrition Get better squats better activity better mobility. Again, it's mind pump free Dot com you can also find all of us on instagram So you can find just it at mind pump Justin me at mind pump sal and adam at mind pump adam