 Welcome to ToffeeTV, we continue our season review with discussing who stays, who goes, who's got time with us to discuss it. This video is brought to you by One Football. One Football's app makes it easier to find all the latest scores, stats and news. Transfer news, you'll need some of that. All in one place to download the One Football app. Click the link in the description, let's get into it. Who stays, who goes, gonna do them one by one. John Pickford, does he stay? Stay. He's boss. Four more clean sheets in the league. He's a bit frustrating at times. He probably could do with a better number two to give him more of a kick up the arse. But they do that in training. Just the number two runs round, kicking him up the arse. That would be different. What is that? You're not a goalkeeper, come try it. I've just proven that, I think. But yeah, I think obviously, listen, we had the old situation at Anfield and he made some other silly mistakes. Don't remember what you're talking about. He made some other silly mistakes during the season, obviously the spares won. But I think he also kept us in a lot of games, made some massive saves. Derby a good as some part, just a couple of saves from Salah. And that was the type of games that some fans may not want to think about because you're just thinking, oh, is he looking at Derby game or whatever. So for me, stays. You can have an input. 100% stays. Yeah, I think it's a good season. 14 clean sheets this season. I think it's only the fourth time we've had that many clean sheets. I think, you know, like Cam said, Anfield was ridiculous. Newcastle actually thought was worse. Performance in Newcastle all his antics. But in general, really steady, really strong. I think he can get better. And I think, obviously, you know, with the addition of maybe, you know, Lurs, who might put them under a bit more pressure, they're now fully a stepper's game. I think for me personally, I want them to just have a, I just want it to be more focused this season. Mind that we're recording this before Sunday, playing a playoff final. Go on, go on, don't go to Newcastle or Tundland or anywhere. I don't mind them going to Wembley. It's just go to Wembley and just go home. If you're having a party, do it in your own house. I think I'd like to see him just become a little bit more focused this season. Could win Silderway for England as well. Well, he could. Yeah, and that's probably actually won't be going on all the way. Yeah, he's got England as in a few weeks as well. That'll be interesting. So that'll be good. Just a bit more focused on the next season. Maybe just see him improve. But I think those improvements will be through experience, not making the same mistakes he made last year. I think that's the only way you're going to... All credit to him from the Newcastle game. And he did take a bit of a stick and he was, he'd mentioned it himself. I thought he was brilliant. He couldn't really do anything. I mean, the only goal I'd look and go, could you do a bit better? Well, two will be the second one of full on bubbles. He went down a bit early and the Ericsson moment, he took a step across. Other than that, he's been brilliant. Well, you said the game against Newcastle, I think after that he sort of realised that he can have that type of attitude and he needs to just be quiet. I said a few weeks ago that if you come out of an Everton game and you're not speaking about Jordan Pickford, then it's a positive. We shouldn't have to be saying, oh, it's Pickford again, this, that, the others. So he keeps his head down and performs, and we performed but it is things like, like what happened to him after the, the Sunderland game in their game when he went out and stuff like that. It is little things like that. Step away from it. But sometimes you only learn not to do those things by doing those things and never repeating your mistakes. Marko was, he wasn't best pleased about it, put it that way. Like in Bench? I was currently in L.A. With Tim Howd? And Danny Donoghie? I would keep Benzie for another season. I know that's what he's been offered. I know the club haven't announced it yet, but I personally would keep him for another season. I think, I don't think there's any, I don't think Calaway will do it. I'd like to see Anthony Robinson probably out on loan again next season. And so for me, I would like Benzie to be there, because I think he can still do it. Can't play every single week, man, of course, but I still think, as and when we need him, he's still good enough to play in the Premier League. Yes, spot on, I agree, 100%. I think the issue with Benzie is we never questioned as whether he's still got the ability, whether he's still got the quality. It was always as he got the stamina, as he got the fitness to go. And we all knew he couldn't go for 38 games, but he's not going to be required to go for 38 games. He may play five to ten at max in a season if, God forbid, Luke would be in picture of an injury or something. So I think he's more than good enough to step in when needed. He's got the quality and the experience as well. So I'd definitely, definitely be keeping him. Yeah, I'd definitely keep him from another year, but I would have to say there are question marks, though, over and because it must be difficult when you do come in for a game now and again. We've seen him against Wolves when he came in for that game and he's struggling with injury and, you know, he gives the penalty away. So I think he was injured, though. Yeah, he was. That's what I'm saying. Because he played very well. He's been injured, though. He was injured a lot last year. No, he was injured. But that was actually playing. So that's got to, that might be factored into it, but you'd want to just keep a play like that right on the club for another year. And the other thing though, might be that if he's looking and thinking I've had a few injuries, I want to try and play every week before I pack it in. That's what I mean. So he doesn't strike me as somebody who'll play like low on lead, though. He doesn't, would he really need to do that? He's been linked with Galaxy a few times because we know that he loves LA. He loves LA. He absolutely loves it. So somewhere like that where it's warmer and everything, I think I could see him actually going there now and playing there, but I don't know. That's the case, isn't it? It's where the, yeah, of course, 90% of Evertonians say, yeah, keep him on, of course. But he might turn around and say, well, I'm not playing every week. I don't want to stay. It'd be interesting to see what happens. Michael Keane, obviously, very finished the season very, very well. Looks every part of the player now. Another player who'll go away to play for England in the Nations Cup thingy. Oh, Bob. So he'll go away from that. He's had a really good season. Got given a nice award by the chairman as well. So he's starting to come out of himself a little bit. So obviously he'd be one to stay camp. Yeah, definitely. 100%. I think obviously he struggled season before last. No. Obviously taken into consideration. He was playing next to Ashley Williams for the majority of that. I'm playing with an injury as well, but he's really cool. Hang on. He wasn't just playing next to Ashley Williams, he was playing next to Keane. Well, yeah, as well. He wasn't putting the best defense, let's put it that way. Obviously he came out with an interview obviously after that season, because he didn't want to make an excuse saying he was also injured for a lot of that season. A lot of the majority of that season. And I think he's been, he's been bossed this season. My most improved player, and definitely. There's no problems today. This place, it's slightly harder for this one, but K2, would you want to see him sign permanently, if there's a possibility? You know what? Probably around February, I wasn't that bothered. I'll be honest, I was like, if he's, because I'd seen 40, 50 million from him, and I was thinking, I'm not really bothered. If we're not, if a big chunk of our transfer, but just going on K2, then I think I'd like to see us buy someone else for less money, and see if we can move it round. But the way he then got better and better and better, now you're looking and thinking, yeah, ideally I'd want to keep the squad we finished with, get rid of the chunk and add to it, because he was brilliant. The last 10 games with Keane, most of them games, he was brilliant in, and now he couldn't play against Chelsea and Keane didn't play against Arsenal and stuff, but in general he's had a very good season for us. Exactly, spot on, and I think what we've seen with including Zuma, there's a settled team now, and you're almost like you're saying, in February, you're thinking, okay, if he stays, he stays, if he goes, he goes. But now we've seen him in a settled defence, and we've seen him as part of a settled unit, you're thinking, well, it will be a real shame to let him go, because not only do we have to find a player that can do the job as well, we have to find a player that can settle in as well. With Zuma's done that next to Keane, and Keane looks a lot better playing next to a defender like Keane Zuma, who is no nonsense, he is, he's quick, he knows how to do his job, so I'd be wanting to keep him, if there's a possibility. They've formed an excellent partnership, and those things, as we've seen in the last few years, have been very hard to cultivate, so I really hope we can get a deal, because you want that continuity as well, you want to keep the players that have done well for you. This whole thing with Zuma now is about getting rid of Deadwood, that I use the word shite, he is a good player. Not all shite, the ones that have... Don't fit it. I don't, I think it's that. I mean, it's done very well there to, I use the word shite. Yeah, yeah. Erm, Phil Jaggelke? Clearly not shite, in any way, shape or form. No, it's all. Yeah. Eh, Jags, I would, I'd like to keep her out in the place, to keep, erm, my men, you know, to keep that evident thing and all of that, but, I think for this to wear, you've got to be cut throat, and, and the size of this. Eh, 36-year-old defender who I love, absolutely love him, but he's been here last season, like you just said about Baines, he's had a hell of a lot of injuries this year, and he hasn't played, you know, and... You just wouldn't, you could get that many injuries on some bit. It, it does look good when you go to town. Erm, and he's not going to be in our team. No, no. So, for 36, where a team that is trying to upgrade and trying to move in, and a bar that we have to start using, and we have to start using it now, is would he get in any of the other top six teams? He wouldn't. So, therefore, why would he get an evidence? So, I would, and the other side to that for him is, it possibly is his last season in professional football, can he go and get games at maybe Chef United where he'll play 25? So, I would let Jags go, I think. Spot on, I think, like you said there, you do have to be cut throat and this, and I think if he turned around and signed a one-year deal under the impression that he wasn't going to play, and he was just going to be there to be around the club, I think a lot of other Tonyans would go, well, whatever, but you'd have to think, well, that's wages a week that could be spent on somebody that can come in and can play and will play, and maybe, like you said, if it is, then it probably is going to be one of his last seasons in professional football, Chef United, the massive opportunity for him to go back there. I mean, we're all thinking he's going to Chef United, and there's no evidence. No, no, but it makes sense. It's been linked with them before, but that's why, but it is, it's an interesting one, because I just think a look at the game against Fulham, where he's up against someone physical, and I just think he just didn't continue it, he was garbage, he was garbage. He was garbage, he had me took off for half time. I think the fact that of who he is probably kept them on the pitch, whereas it was a younger player, he managed them off. Managed you to suck them off. That's right, it makes it tougher because of what he's given to the club, what he is to the club. I think I've said this before on the show, for me, it's almost like, well, I'd keep him more of it as a going forward to maybe doing coaching, and ambassador role, but that's no real reason to keep a player on. That's just me being sentimental about it. It is, you know, it is completely sentimental. So really, to my cutthroat, you just get rid of them. You really will. You just go, but we know that's not how football works. There's always a sense of mentality, and there's always that, what happens next, what happens when you finish clear. But then again, you could be like, well, go away, play here somewhere else, and then come back to be a judge here. I think he, for me, he's tailor-made to be upon this. I think he speaks well. I think he can get his point across. It's whether he wants, he might want to stay in football, he might want to put a suit on and sit in the studio. That's for me, where the club should be trying to keep all of them. Because he's obviously a intelligent man, he obviously speaks very well, he knows modern football. That's where the club should be trying to keep all of them. Maybe not put them on a player's contact for the sake of it, but if he goes away and plays here, the club should be able to be trying to bring them back to, and this is not football, but open avenues up, where you have people like that at the club. We've seen this at other clubs around the world, where they use those kind of players, as they spoke some of it, everything. Because they are intelligent, and moving forward, I think as a football club, we should be a bit more like that. And then they can do all the pundits he's making. See, with Leon Osmond at the club, he speaks very well, so he can get them involved in every way he possibly can. He still goes out and does his pundits, that kind of thing, but it's good to have people like that at the club who function in that. Andre Gomez, again, like Kate Newman, not really in our hands, but what I would say is, though, the difference is, he isn't going to stay in Barcelona. No, no, he's going, and he's leaving Barcelona. Obviously, there's been the rumors about Spurs, and as much as Spurs may be in for them, and like we spoke off camera before, if you're Andre Gomez, he's got no affiliation to Everton other than the year he spent here, and if you've got a Champions League fan... And all the hugs. Yeah, and all the hugs, yeah. If you've got a team that are in the Champions League final, saying, come here, and we'll give you more money, and you can have this and that, the other, why wouldn't he consider it? I personally would want to keep him. If we can keep him, if that's an option. Like we said, about the atmosphere, he might have felt that, felt that relationship with the fans, felt that relationship with the teammates, and thought, well, you know what, I want to stay here, and if we could, I'd make that happen. Again, along the same lines of the Kate Newman situation, we've got a settled start on 11 now, and he is part of that start on 11, and an option Ireland's coming, and he's done well towards the back end of the season, and I know, you know, he's obviously, he's improved massively after Marcos had his arm round him, but I just think Gomez is part of that start on 11, and I'd like to sign him personally, if it's possible. But again, that's, I suppose, out of our hands a little bit, isn't it? Yeah, and I'm the same, I'd like him to stay. I could understand just from a pure players' point of view, why Tottenham will be an attractive move. Again now, this, a lot of this could just be getting fed by Barcelona, so it means a lot to me. Exactly, so, you know, we don't know. Gomez seemed to have struck the club to heart for the year, but then again, he's a professional footballer, and if he told me it was, you know, football with 11 men in a ball, I'd still have to look and check it wasn't, because that's the way a lot of footballers are. If he has no effort in anything, you know, we've had, we've given him a platform he's performed, but he's given a lot back while he's being here in terms of the community stuff. But ideally, you'd keep him, because he's integrated, he's nice on the ball, strong, I think he's got a bit more to give, he didn't have a pre-season. So, when an ideal, where do you stay? I think he's easier to replace, still, than Kate Tuna, personally. Possibly, yeah. I think there are other players out there, that cost a lot of money. But I think there are other players out there, Kate Tuna, I don't know whether there's that many centre-backs that would just naturally fit into it. But I would want to keep him, I think he's a good player, and I think we haven't got enough centre-manfielders at the club, so we just want to definitely keep him. You haven't got anyone like him at the club? No, no, we haven't. And that's where, but again, if you couldn't get him, you'd go and try and get someone like Kels Sauer or Betis, who's a good player. Guilfy Sigarton. Yeah, that's what I'm kidding. No, yeah, I mean, had a good season. Didn't either, yeah. Score goals, made the sixth. Highest goal scorer. Brains are the team for me. When the team's functioning well, he's playing well, and it all works properly. He's got that little bit of magic as well, out of nowhere when you need it, like at least again. Needs to shoot a bit more for me. When he shoots from outside the box, he struggles every single goalkeeper. He's doing it against man United, and he'd be all the other guys, not in the best form. He'd be the best keeper in the world. So every time he gets the ball from outside the box, now if there's a chance, hit it. I want him, because the keeper can parry it, and we've got a tap in or we get a call on the road. Doesn't hit it lightly. So he's not, keeper's not going to catch it. It's going to go somewhere. He's got to take more responsibility. It's as simple as that. More responsibility to say, rather than shifting it on, I'm going to have a dig here, and we'll see what happens for me. Because that's what the best players do. That's what Ericsson does. That's what most players you're playing as a position do. They just say, you know what, I'm going to try and trouble the goalkeeper. If you look at Sigarton, very few of his goals for us, if any, have been crap. No. They're all, they're all good goals. If you think about his goals. Have his tap into a pinch. Yeah. But in general, that's what I said, very few in general. A lot of his goals are well these, aren't they? Or, you know, the good strikes. He needs to take that with him. So we do it every week, do it more, get a couple of shots in. Theo, walk off. Sell. Sell. For me. I think. It's unanimous. That's it. Listen, I was quite pleased when we bought him, because we didn't have anyone with that kind of pace, and I thought, it'd do him good to change the club. I thought, he'll come in, knuckle down, different, different opportunities. He had a later stage of his career. He's got that experience. He had them seasons when he scored a lot of goals for Arsenal. And I thought, excellent, we're going to add goals here. But he just doesn't shoot the way we play, and it's as simple as that. He's suited Sam Allardyce's team more. Yeah. Because we literally give him the ball, and go and try and do something for us. You know? Yeah. Whereas Marco Silva, he doesn't help Sheamus Coleman out, and therefore, instead of having one problem, you then have two. And I think what we've seen is, when the Charleston's gone over to that right-hand side, we've seen the blueprint. We've seen what needs to be in front of Sheamus Coleman to benefit the team and benefit Coleman. I still think, personally, you could get good money for him, for his age, and what he's got left on his contract. I feel like he's one of those players that someone else will take a hit on him. Imagine Southampton or something like that coming in, saying, we'll give you like £15 million for him, or £12 million, something like that. So I still think we can... And your right, he doesn't... He won't get enough football out of it, no, either. Does he want that at this stage? He just defies wages as well. Does he want that at this stage of his career to not have enough that amount of football? I think he's an honest pro. I think he gives everything he can. I've got no problems with him in that kind of way. I don't think he's someone who tries, doesn't, you know, not to try, but I just think that he doesn't suit us. And you have to be... You're right, you have to just go, well, if we left at another summit, what would his value be then? What would his value be to us? What would his value be to the next club? I think if you've got European football, group stages, so you can guarantee them games, and then you've got cup games, you can kind of fit them in and see if you can move them around. I think he's a good squad player to have, but I think for his wages and us, I don't think it just defies it. I just don't think he offers enough when he comes in, and I think the drop-off for him, the Charleston going out the team and him coming in is big. Exactly, exactly. And going forward, of course, if we're going to progress any further in the future, you need, if you... The Charleston has to come out through injury or suspension, you need someone to step in that can do the role that he does. And like you said, for me, the biggest thing with the Charleston is the defensive work he does as well. The Charleston can do very little going forward, but have a boss game, because he's come back and he's helped Sheamus call him and constantly... Ciel doesn't do that, it's not in his game. It's never been in his game to come back and do defensive work. And on one hand, you could say, well, that's not what he's there for, that's not his job, he's not there to defend, but on the other hand, you lose so much. But the other thing as well is that, well, yeah, Bernard shows them up, you know, for Amoteadus, but the other thing is he's called... Walcott gets his head down and just runs with the thing where the Sheamus... To get the best out of Sheamus, if you watch the Charleston and he plays on that side, a lot of the time, he'll wait for Coleman and he'll thread it, and then he'll be best to get back in the box on that side. That's the difference, isn't it? Walcott just gets his head down and runs, and he's not thinking about anything else. And there's no other options on the pitch, literally. But Charleston can run with the ball, but if he doesn't want to, he can put his foot on it and open the pitch up. I don't think Walcott can do that. And I sort of think, like you just said, if you had more football, and different players would suit Walcott, then maybe, but... I just think we can get to... I think if someone offers 12 million... I think 10. I'll be happy with 10 to be honest. I think they'd let him go. So, yeah. Look at Dean. He's got it getting this season, just... What a poor season. What a terrible player. A terrible player. Walking round with your hair cut. It's a fancy taxi. Scoring four goals, not side of the box. Whale these. What a player. What a player. I mean, there's not much to say about him other than what a player and you summed it up brilliantly before coming in to play Spain. We were all worried about Spain. And now you're going... You don't even think about Spain, you know? It's just been brilliant, hasn't it? It's been absolutely fantastic. There's no question about that. Obviously, our players played the year as well, drinking with Garner. Give them a new contract. Like you said, yeah. And coming in, it was such an important role to Evertonian, such an important role to Everton. And I know a lot of clubs around the world are going, it's a left-back, can't it? The generic left-back just come in and do the job, but it wasn't because of how much Banes gave to us going forward. Obviously, with the assist, he had... And his defensive work as well, and Dean's coming in, and he does that job perfectly. And that's why he's so important to how we set up. Brands has been tasked with replacing Banes, and he's literally his first goal. He's gone, there you go. It fits right. Yeah. I think because the expectations from last season were so low as well. Well, yeah. On left-backs. Well, yeah. Or not left-backs playing left-backs. From the year before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Erm, you know what I mean? Strange season. You know, didn't get a game till November, and then... And injured three times. Then was injured half the season, and sporadically played, like you said before, Bambi on ice at times, and then looks like a rock of a defender. But it's fine on that level, isn't it? For him personally. You know, he's calling the Colp of America this summer, playing for Colombia, in Brazil, that'll be interesting. But it needs a season. There's no need of just playing and training, and, you know, just getting to grips with it a little bit. I think he can force his way into this. I don't know if I'm being mean to him. I really do. I think he's... You're talking about Zuma as being, you know, a bit of a mountain and this and that. I think Mena can be a van Dijk, really. Maybe not as cultured, because van Dijk's probably a bit of footballer. But to be that physical presence, he's huge. You know, I think he's a threat off set pieces. I think he has had a frustrating season, without a shadow of a doubt. It's not gone the way we hoped. But I've seen enough to see the attributes there of a good defender, a good centre-back, and someone who can bully people, and someone who can, you know, be a threat in both penalty areas. And I think he can be a really good defender forever, and I really do. Yeah, definitely. I think it's definitely too early to start thinking about moving on, and I don't think... Obviously, he struggled with having the injury when he came in, and then a couple of injuries sort of sporadically, and then it didn't help that Zuma and Keane were absolutely boss as well, so he struggled to get in the team that way. But I agree with you. I think that he could come in, and he is massive. He's a presence. And when he has time on the ball, and when he's settled into a game, he generally... I've seen Mena play him, and I've gone, you know what, you're a boss there, Chelsea away. Chelsea at home, absolutely. Chelsea at home as well. First time Mena's against Chelsea at home, he was all over the place. He's blown out of his arse. He was struggling to sort of find his rhythm, and find his position, who he was picking up, and then once we got through that sticky spell, he just can't stand, and he started taking responsibility, and going to win everything in the air. And he's not the kind of player which you'd expect, he's not the kind of player who... You know, if I was to centre forward, I'd be thinking, if I back into this fella, he'll be all over me. Because when you're tall, and maybe the ball's coming into someone's chest, he'll actually climb over them, especially if they're good at backing in, which Chelsea have got centre forwards like that. But he tries to nick in, or he just holds off, and maybe gets it when the player spins. So he's a good defender, he just needs the times to... You've just got to know how to use him, I suppose. He probably just needs rhythm, he just needs to play. Yeah, he needs to consist, he needs to run the games where you go, like, this is what he is, where he's coming in and out, doesn't help anyone. That's Chelsea's game at home. They brought Siro, and Siro's always a problem for us. Yeah, but I think you have one chance at the end of the season, where he might have done better, that was the only thing he'd done, he'd already seen he'd won, you know. So, I think he could be there to go through. Cenk Towson? You can start, Cam. Oh! Add cell, if you can get money for him, add cell. I just think, I love Cenk Towson, I think he's a strong fella, but again, I'm no room for sentiment. I think obviously when Aladay signed, and very similar to Walkout, you know, we've seen Cenk Towson have a really good end to the season, same with Theo. Michael Silver, obviously hadn't seen enough of him and thought, you know what, he could go and be our centre forward next season, he could be banging in goals, left fighting centre. It hasn't worked for him, and I just don't think he works with Michael Silver's style of football. I don't think he fits in, obviously, too pacey wingers. And a lot of the time, that's why Dominic Calvert-Lewins worked, because he sat there, and he's been a pain in the arse to the centre half, and that's allowed Benard to have free space in the childhoods, to have free space where I just don't think Cenk has got the pace. My big problem with Cenk Towson is that match day Cenk and training day Cenk are two different things. Two different things. You know, how can you train? How can you train with no hair and play with hair? How can you do that? How can you do that? You've got it in his last season, he trained with the hair and played with the hair. I think you've got to make your mind up. You've got to make your mind up, Cenk. Maybe it's the hair like Coney when he comes here. I would just go for the weave, personally, because you're playing with, like, you know, streamlining training. Pick one. I agree with Camden. I don't think... I just don't think he suits Michael Silver's style, I think. I think we all love him. And we all want him to do well. He looks like he's a great lad. He looks like he really wants to do it forever. And he really wants to get on the end of things and be the centre forward. And you know, you see when he scores how much he means to him. But I think, again, it's the ruthlessness for going forward. Would he get in any of the teams above us? No. So that has to be the bar where we're working towards. And if he was mobile and could do the job Don done, then you'd go, well, he fits in and part of the team. So it's fine. But he's the drop-off again, you know. And I'm someone who doesn't think Dominic Alvertley should be on number one slaker. I think we should be getting better than that. And not saying, Don can't keep training you to improve because he's improved massively. He really has, you know. And there's the potentials there for him to grow and grow. But Tolson, the other, you know, 27, 28, in a formation and style the way we play, he just doesn't suit it. Tom adds a lot to the team, doesn't he? Yeah. I think, obviously, I agree. I don't think he should be on number nine going forward. He could be in the future, but certainly not in the feasible future next season. But I think if you bring in a number nine, let's say that can be the goal scorer and then you've got Don who can play when needed. I just don't think there's much room for Jeng Tolson and if you can get some money back for him, then I'd sell personally. I mean, the big thing as well with just on the Don thing is that whoever we bring in has to be able to do what Don does. Yeah, exactly. And then the pair of them can battle for that start and both then where it's... I think it's just too different, Jeng. So, sell. Depends if we get an offer, isn't it? I think if we get an offer, we'd probably look at it. We probably will. I think we'd look at it if we got the replacements. James McCarthy. Sell. I think it's just sell, isn't it? Sell. I think it's race as well. I don't think he has a good relationship with Marko, does he? And have we been... I don't actually know that, so... Especially if we... Well, that's just speculation. Especially if we bring Andre Gomez in and you've got Gomez there, who knows what'll happen with Snadling and Guy as well. I think James... Snadling is just... The promise with James McCarthy is he's been injured. The manager obviously doesn't fancy him in terms of his physical attributes. He watches him every day in training and he doesn't think he's up to it. He doesn't think he's up to it. And that's it, isn't it? I mean, when you think about natural fit, James McCarthy's the most natural fit to take over in games from Garnett. You know what I mean? But the manager hasn't looked at it like that, so he obviously feels like he can't give physically. And that's... We've seen with Seamus, those leg breaks take a lot more time than just from when you get injured to when you get back on the pitch. You have to work your way back to get into where you are. And he hasn't had enough time on the pitch to do that. And for me, I would just be looking at it. I think he goes into his last year of his contact. So I think it's someone, someone like Celtic might come calling for who might feel like as a cup price fee. Be great for them. I think for them. And he'd get his rhythm back by playing, playing, playing. And he'd be someone like them would be almost like the next scop brand. Someone who would be brains up there, bossed up there. Yeah, be bossed up there. He's got a little bit of something in the bar and he's a boy with Celtic fans, something like that, but... I think he could do a job for a lot of teams. I just think he's a racist one, as far as I'm concerned. So I'd have no problem selling them. To the man himself, address a guy and a gay. Do not sell address a guy and a gay. Whatever you do. Please. Keep them here. That stands in January, you're saying. Sit down, lad. Well, what if you didn't do... You're not going home. We all want them to stay, clearly. But what if everything do keep that stance of... Because there has been speculation that I haven't argued on it. Or some teams, we wanted them, have gone a bit quiet on them now. So what if everything do keep that stance and say to the player, you're under contract. You are a massive cog in this team. In fact, you are the pivot of this team. You are staying here. What do you think that... How do you think that would change the demographic between him and the people in charge? Well, I don't know, because... We said the team in January. He's been fantastic since he got back in the side. So I don't think... I think professionally he's very good. Is he professionally very good to say to everyone, well, you know what? I'm doing my bit now. They want me to go and I'm not going to suck. So in the summer, you might do your bit if I want to leave. Maybe that was it. I don't know. Everything might turn out and they'll go tell you what. We'll give you another contract, a better contract than you're on to stay. And if he's happy with that, we're all happy. I mean, what are his options then? Can't much... PSG have said no. They've gone for the second area. Right. They play similar positions, you know. So what are his options going to be? Do you think that he still wants to leave? I think there's to be a lot of teams after this again. Name one. I heard a rumour of Manchester United somewhere, but I don't see why he'd take that step. But I think you made a really good point there. He could go one or two ways again with Ghana. He could sit there and go, well, the club could say you're not going again. He could go, all right, I'll get me a down again and I'll play as well as I've been playing. And he could go away as a bigger contract or he could say, well, I'm gone. I acted professionally in January. I didn't suck, you know. I've done my bit now. Do your bit. I want to leave the club. But I think PSG was a massive part of that January period with him because I think he did see the stars of PSG and he'd seen Neymar and Mbappe. And he went, I want to go there. And now they've taken a step back. I think he might be a bit like, well, you know what, I'm happy to be where I am. I think that's the interesting point there, isn't it? Does he want to leave for Champions League football or did he want to leave for Champions League football of Paris and German? That's the difference, isn't it? Does he just want to go to Champions League football or was it Paris? Yeah, we spoke about it the time, didn't we? We spoke about it since. It's that extraction of going back playing in France, you know, Paris being the city it is. You can understand that. But if another team coming for them, you know, I don't know. You know, you can hear all kinds of rumours, you hear people like, ah, it's nothing, people like that. You can understand why they don't want them, but I just wonder what would attract them to leave if it wasn't Paris and German? Who are those top teams? And if, like, you said of everything, they're going, listen, you were happy to sign a five-year contract and you're a year into it, or 18 months into it, we want to keep you because we haven't been able to. Oh, the flip side of that, Marcel Brands, where you can have them over there, he's ready to replace them and go, listen, the minute we get your money, kid, you can go. Because he's 21, he can do the same job. We spoke about that previously, though, I think we about the idea that he is 30. You will, you know, you will be looking at players at 30 and saying, when's the best time to sell them? When are you, when, how long will you wait before, you know, you can make money back on them? Because whether we like it or not, the club will be looking and thinking, well, we have to make money on this player and that player and the other player. Everyone leaves, who, on whose terms do they leave? And it's about finding that sweet spot where the player has got enough time left that he's still waiting for something and he's still playing well enough that he's still waiting for something, but you want to get rid of him as well. And it's, that's the interesting part. Everyone could, Marcel Brands could have, a midfield player, who can do very similar to Ghana, but can also weigh him with five or six goals. And he might see him and go, well, we actually want him. So we know that if you're going to go, the minute that offer comes in, you're gone. Because we want to buy him, you know. And that, we might be looking at it going, we can't lose Ghana. And then, like Luke had been, four weeks, six weeks in, we're going, ooh, got two. Because look at this kid who's bossing it and scoring. So that's what you have to trust. But if you're just asking us today, we'd all keep him, wouldn't we? Without no player there that you could say he's going to come in and you've got to say you keep him. Because you know what? I watched the Corey on Saturday against City, but just fully focused on him, Woody, dude. And I've got to say, I wasn't impressed with him. I looked at him and was like, he's not Ghana would have made more impact in that game. It's hard though, isn't it? Because it's hard though if you're the only player doing that job, and which we've seen from Ghana before, when he's been the only player pressing, he doesn't look like the same player. But suddenly when there's a team ethos, and that's why he's so important, look at Kante this year. That's not like half the player. Because the way the team works, it's changed, his position's changed. You know, I'm like, what are you supposed to do? We always thought Morgan Snidlin, Ghana could never play together, but they found their way. Which moves us on nicely to Morgan Snidlin. Oh, this is another tough one, I think. I think five, six, 10 weeks ago, I'd have said, Sel obviously coming towards the back end of the season, he's obviously been getting his head down and training, and always had a lot of stuff going on personally, which could have knocked us confidence and has won to play football week in, week out, but we won't go into that. But yeah, like I said, I think earlier in the season, it was clear that he wasn't good enough. When Gomez come in as well, I think we all sat here and went, this kid is much better than what he was. So let's sell him and let's bring this lad in. And then obviously as the season went on, and we started to call upon Snidlin, when Gomez was suspended and injured, etc. He stepped in and he proved that he's been getting his head down and he's been working hard and training, and I think he's putting some really, really good performances recently. And I think it was the right decision to keep him in for the Spades game. A lot of people were saying he should come straight out, Gomez should come in and I thought, no, he hasn't done anything wrong, and he stepped in and he's done what he needs to do. So I think it's a tough one. Obviously, I still think we could get money for him. I think we could obviously be on decent wages as well. Again, it depends whether Gomez comes in, if Andre Gomez comes in and signs the deal, and you can say, okay, maybe we can afford to get rid of Morgan Snidlin. But again, if he stayed at the football club, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I think the question mark is, he's on good wages, like you just said, is there someone out there that can do that job that he does as a squad player who comes in and has a quiet but good gaming team? Would you go and get that option if they were on lower wages? Because what I would say is there's nobody actually at the club who can do what Morgan Snidlin does in terms of coming, play those games, play that role, be physically able to come in and be strong and good on set pieces. And I think there's room for Morgan Snidlin to be at the club next season because, like we've seen in some of our games, there are games where you go, we want to be a little bit more defensively set up, but we know we've got players to play on the counter attack and you know he's going to come in and do a job. I think he's had an attitude change as well, which I think is quite obvious that he's just like, well, I'll come in and do my job and never go out the next week. That's football, whereas beforehand, it didn't feel like it was almost like when he wasn't playing, he would get in a car barn and do his job. Well, I think he just thought he was treatable for us. I think he, I don't, I mean, I don't know, that's the point, but I'm saying is that maybe that attitude change is just being, well, I come in and I do a job because I'm part of a team unit. We've seen this with other players. When distractions go out the window and other things become more important, they just get their head down and do the job. And it's just whether, listen, a big might come in in the summer and it might be perfect for him and his family and it might be perfect for Evan. But if it doesn't come in, I'd have no problems with moments now of being at Everton next season and just coming in and being that quiet, effective player that you need in certain games. He makes the, he makes the squats stronger by being there for those games. It's a very good squat player. He's a great squat player, but he's on good wages. Yeah, that's the other thing. And he's 30 as well, or nearly 30. So you have to look at this all in advance and go, if we get a bid for him, I mean, we lose underground off the wage bill, but then we can replace him with a 30 grand a week player or 40 grand a week. Then that credit back in the account and the lab might be 23, 24, so you've got legs as well. So I wouldn't have a problem with him staying, but I think Everton might look in the summer and go, we can offload him, we will. And also it is that, like we've seen before, it is probably the right time to sell him as well because you'll make a little bit of money back. You get the wages off and you can replace him with a young, because again, it's that idea he's of an age now where you're ordered. You're looking to replace him with a squad enemy. You're looking to recycle. And that's the way people are going to think now. It's not about being a selling club. It's about making money from the players because how many times we have players that you just let them go down almost to the... Well, they don't matter. So whatever, it doesn't matter. They're getting nothing for them. No, you want something for them. They're not doing anything. It's a business, isn't it? Well, it is a business. Well, it's not just a business. It's about saying, well, while he's in on £100,000, that's two players we can't bring in on £50,000, because that's how it works, FFP. Places, price tags don't really matter anymore. We're starting to see that. We're starting to see, even though the prices are going up, clubs are like, well, that's not... It's almost like it's not real money at times now. It's because it doesn't really... The FFP is all about the wages more than anything else. So you can almost write off those, what you pay for a player at times, because of how you pay, and how it's staggered and all that. FFP is so important, so... So I must have contracted his worth over a period of time. That's simply what it is. Again, let's move on to another useless player, Bernard. Listen, what a player. I just can't wait to see him next season, when he's had the pre-season. I think he needs... I think it's quite clear, you know, he finished with three assists this season, which was madly his third best in terms of the one-goal. That was one-goal. So in terms of the dirty areas, he has to improve. More assists, more goals. He's another player that needs to get shots away. I think you said, when we were talking about towards the end of the season, he's got to be the one-coming, and on the back, he should be getting tap-ins at the far post. For his thing, however, what a footballer, and him and Luchadine, brilliant on the left hand side. Yeah, he's technically fantastic, isn't he? I think he's our best player, technically, for me. We've seen as the season's gone on, and he's got fitter, and he's played more games, he's got better. His first touch, he's always going to have that... You don't lose the quality. But the fitness and things like that, it was always going to take time, and, you know, he's come in after playing in a league that's very different to the league he's playing in now, not playing football for so long, competitively. I think we've seen, as the season's gone on, that the fitters, he's got, I agree, needs to get in more positions to shoot. He needs to work on a shooting. Obviously, he needs to work on getting involved a little bit more. Because he's got the skill, he's got the pace to get in those dangerous areas. When he gets in the dangerous areas, he creates opportunities. Lester away from home, the ball to Richard, or something like that, in front of the box. Cardiff, when he came home from Cardiff. Cardiff, yeah, yeah. Personally, for me, I think the big difference is that you talk about those moments when he first started playing, like Lester, and if he wasn't having those moments, he was not doing anything else. Yeah. The player at the end of the season was having, was affecting the game. Without actually creating assists, and without actually being, like, you know, the flashy player who's dropped, but killing the ball. He's affecting the game all the time because he's running back, he's working hard. Defensively, but it was... And then he switched on to counterattack with Dean going past him. And I think that's where you look on as a player, and go, that's where he's becoming all round player. With early on, it was all about the moments. It was all about, can we get him on the ball? What was he doing if he wasn't on the ball? How was he affecting the game? And he wasn't, but with that... It's like the Arsenal game, he made two massive tackles on the edge of our box when we were under the cost a little bit, and then broke with the ball. It was things like that. And the amount of effort and work that he puts in, again, he's another one that sets the tone for other players. You see him running around like that. You know, this is a player that's coming from another country. You know... Leaving his goal against West Ham, he's absolutely... He doesn't have a tap in at the back post. He runs 10 yards, beats the full back. And then, as a tap in at the far post, because he's put working, that doesn't happen unless you've fit, and you can see the game as well. His football drains, brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. He's technically so good, and he's got it up there. And like I said, the more the fit that he gets, when he's had a full preseason under his belt, he's going to be absolutely... And the assist of the sister. Well, he is, like Pina. That's it. Yeah, so obviously, great player. Let's move on. Martin Stechlenburg, let go. Yeah, he's going, isn't he? I think so. He's definitely going. I think so. With obviously the introduction of Lacell coming in from others' field. I think Stech's going to go out the door. Javadjini is going to go on loan, which I think is the next thing for him, for his career. But then who would be on number three? Bajini will go on loan. So who would be on number three? Who would be our third keeper? Jax. You've got to have three keepers. You've got to have three keepers, basically. It'll be Tengi from the 23s. No, it wouldn't. You'll what? He'll it, yeah. No. Not the suit. There's still the keeper as well. Javadjini. Okay. All right. We'll do it off. We'll do it off, Camly. No, but there's no way. There's no way we're going to have a number three who's not competitive. So that's where I think they might keep Stech on the big. Yeah, Stech on the big, Mike. In fact, they might. I could see them on loan and Javadjini, I'm not arguing on that at all. But I could see them keeping Stech on the big. Maybe, maybe. He's got a year left. He's got a year left. Then you'd have a 24-year-old, that old pick we do. 25. 25. 30. 30. 30. I see I could see that working. Yeah, no, to be honest, that's probably more likely to be fair. Javadjini will go on loan. There's no doubt about that. He's at his peak now with 23, can't do. He's not going to lay in anything else playing 23s. And as good as it is for him to sit on the bench and I'm subbing Premier League games, he's not going to get the game. So everything needing to go and play at a higher level, arguably, get knocked around a little bit at that level. And then probably next summer when Stech on the big, contractual, he then drops in and then it's between him and Lacell. And he's probably... I just... Do you get on the bench maybe? For me, I wouldn't see the point in getting the step. Honestly, I just don't... No, no, you're probably right. It's a number two. It's a number two, you're dropping down one. Like I said, this loads of times. You know, we watched them in training a couple of weeks ago. And he... He was almost direct in it. He would be passing all the... I've seen him, he was going over to pick with them. He's passing all that experience. You always want that, like a more senior. You've got your coach, of course, you have. But you want someone as well passing on. I suppose the timescale fits though, doesn't it? He's got 12 months left. So if you have a Gingie goes on loan for a year, then next summer he goes, and if a Gingie comes back and it's like, you're signing the number two, then Lacell. Cos he takes three goalies to every game, don't you? True. You've got to... You only have to get a number three sheet, don't you? You'll get ill over everything. So yeah, you're probably right. Stech on the big, Robbie Will. Still be you. The tinge is round on that one. No, no, cos I was just thinking, yeah, the heel is probably not gonna be it. So it's Robbie Will. Cute tomorrow. Stech on the big joint. I just think that makes more money. No, it does. I don't think... We're not gonna get any money for him and if he's got a year left on his pants... He's probably not, and to be honest, right, he's probably more than happy. Going to Finch Farm every day, training, work hard, keep fit. Got great hair. I think it's on his hair then. And that's it, let's do three. Yeah. Sheamus Coleman. Keep. Keep. So, 100%. Yeah, keep got better. We talked to him, he said all the stats are better and a bit of improving. Again, someone who can go into a pre-season fit. Ready to go. And ready to go. Yeah. So, I think that makes a big difference. And the other, the other... What a woodshriever should we need someone to really push him, that's what a woodshriever is. Okay. Richard Allison. Keep. Obviously. No, yeah. Fantastic first season. Comfort a lot of money. Something from his agents, hasn't it? This week, Shane Everton, he was asked about him and he was obviously probably asked about him in Brazil off the back of him. Oh, okay. And he was said, well, Everton have put an astronomical price tag on his head anyway. So, I mean... Because I mean, with a lot of expectation, didn't he, not just the price tag, but obviously some fans being a little bit skeptical because of the back end of his last season at Wofford and obviously finishing leading goals. God, the big positive I have about Richard Allison, not only his defensive work, but I think he always seems to be in the right place at the right time. He's always getting them goals where it's bouncing about and he's there. Yeah, he's the one. Where there's some players, he's just... There's too many... Too many times there's never Tony and not just last season, the season before, where you look at a chance and you go, why wasn't it just somebody there to put that in? And he's been there, he is a poacher. And from wide areas, that's invaluable. Yeah, he's a wide striker, isn't he? Tom Davies, obviously just signed a new contract, seems very happy, seems the kind of play you need to have in your squad. Someone who understands his role but has been explaining to what his role is as well and I think that's, for me, where that works and it's still a kid. 21 in a few weeks and has played 60 or 70, 80 games forever. 80 games, doesn't he? 80 for probably 80 games and he's not to anyone, yeah. I think, but some fans are very quick with judgments and are almost like, if you're not a well-beater then, then you go and you're like, no, because it's about a squad and what you're doing is he's got room to develop as a player. So he's at this level and he could quite easily go here and he could quite easily go here and that's where it is. He's not to anyone, he's a baby there, he's so... But to have 80 games under you, about a Premier League level, he's played 50 times for England, have fairings, things, Captain Deventon. So like you've just said, he's had his role explained, I think the man is here really likes him, I think Marcel Brans likes him. I think he's allowed that comes in and when he presses from the front, he's brilliant at it. Okay, might need to understand the game a little bit more to be deeper. So to know what else you're doing, don't leave your position and chase things if you're leaving a hole. Little things like that, that he will get, but I think the better midfield players ever can get into the squad, the more opportunity he's got to grow as a player to look and lean off this and things. So for me, for me, he's a vital member of our squad because I also see him as a lad that can play three positions as well. Yeah, definitely. Dom, Dom McCable-Lewan. Keep... I think you obviously we've seen in the last sort of 10 weeks of the season how much he's improved. Obviously, he plays a role that not many other players play. I haven't played football clubs, saying he's played football since 2000 before. Yes, he could improve on his in front of goal. Yes, he couldn't improve on creating opportunities, but he's a nuisance to any centre-class that he plays in front of or behind. He wins balls in the air. Constantly, every ball that's punted up to him and he doesn't just win them aimlessly. He wins them onto other players or if there's no one around them, he'll take them down. I think he's only going to improve. There's arguments about the loan, but I think I'd rather have Dom and McCable-Lewan in there and a striker that can come in and beat the number nine week-in, week-out and him looking up to him. He made it his own. Made it his own, didn't he? He did. He stepped his game. At this moment, he's the number one striker in the squad. Now, it's up to Everton, Marcel Brands, Michael Silver, to bring in another striker now to add a beat the number one or to battle with Dom to beat the number one. Criticisms of Dom. He needs to have a bit more awareness. Sometimes he gets caught whether to pass it or to do a step over. But again, only young. You know, but young, but that's the delay in that. Yeah. And the other thing will be getting himself on the right side. I don't think he gets in enough goal-scoring positions. I think he's outside the box plays fantastic. There's link-up play, great near, will and runner either side. I think he's got to put himself in positions where he can score goals. He can't have a centre forward. That doesn't want to be in the box. So he's got to get himself into those areas. We've just mentioned that the others, being there, not going to win. Dom should be doing the same. Dom should be doing that. Wanting to rob goals off place. That's what it's about. It's an interesting question for you then. How much would he be worth if someone come in to buy him? More than Sri Lanki. And he was, what, 25 million? 29 million only. He's talking 30, 35 million. Man, that's... It's crazy. It is crazy. It's this day and age. That's the way it is. Yeah, but he's a good centre forward. Without goals, he's a really good centre forward. I think Dom... I think everything we've just spoke about there, the club will be analysing, the club will analyse, all that. They'll look at certain situations and games and go, you know, when a ball might be flashed across the box. You need to... You know, why you're there, why aren't you there? So, you know, if you take up that position, that's the kind of, that's kind of analytics that'll be all over it. I said it before, going to get the Scots as fell at the England match. Yeah, yeah, the one that does all the show, haven't it? I'm just a show. Get him in a couple of days a week to work on, to go, listen. You need to be on it. Because the way he's going to dunk him is back to goal. He's worked brilliantly with him. But dunking wasn't a great goal scorer. So, we want some money goals, listen. Get yourself in that area, so you've got tapings. Definitely. Eh, final couple. Only final couple. Eh, add them all up, man. Sell. If you can get decent money for them, add sell them. I think obviously, there was a period in the season where fans started to jump on the plane, give them time, give them games. And I... Although I do think to be fair to him, I do think he still probably didn't have decent enough run-of-game for us to go, okay, let's see how you're all settled in. But I just think, we said off-camera before, when he's coming at times, he hasn't massively impressed me. I haven't gone, right? You should, you need to be in that, you know, in that start on 11. And okay, when Theo was there, and Theo wasn't playing fantastically, you could go, add them all up, man. Should be there. He should be knocking on the door. He should be playing ahead of Theo. But I suppose now Rich Arleson's coming, you don't really, you don't think the same. You don't think Adam Ola Luchman should be, should be there now with Rich Arleson, because you just think more Rich Arleson's there, and that's it, he's heading shoulders better. So if we can get, and again, going back to last summer, I don't know if we'll get the same interest, I don't know if we'll get the same room with offers from the likes of Leipzig, et cetera, but if we can get still decent money for him. I think we'll get offers, because his price will look on down, because of his contract. For me, this is a lad who can't get out of his own way. Yeah. So the way, the only way I can say, is that I can't, I say a player, that could have it tremendous career, could still have it tremendous career. I just don't think that career would be with Evan, because I just don't think he wants to be here ever. No, that's his attitude. I just don't think, I don't think he, he never looks happy, and a look of players who aren't playing, and I know people probably like, well, they should, you know, they're not playing, they shouldn't be happy, but there doesn't seem to be a general happiness about him, and I just don't think he wants to be here, Evan. You know, that's fine. That's not an issue. That's not like McCard City, and go, you should be, you know, this is the best cover in the world. If he's not happy in a situation, but he's not, you can't force a kid to be happy where he lives, so happy to be away from his family. You might try your best to put everything in place. It's a weird one, isn't it? Because it's almost caught between, like, the devil and the deep blue sea, you know. You sometimes have a player who is a little bit, is good, and but there's not, there's just something that's not there, and then they go, oh yeah, do you know what happened? I got married, and I had a kid, and everything changed for me, and I've got rid of it, or whatever the baggage was, but he likes me as a young lad, he's not, just doesn't seem to be, like, seems like he probably doesn't leave his hotel room or something. He just, he almost has that thing about him. Quiet doesn't have much to relate to. Yeah, just quiet, and just, you know what, I just want to go live with my mum, back with my mum. I think, like Cameron just said, there, he's 21, he's the same age as Tom Davies, and he's nowhere near as good as Tom Davies, and that isn't it. But I don't think that's the best comparison, I think more Tom Davies would be a better comparison. He's 21. No, I know, but Tom Davies is 21. Yeah, but I'm saying to you, he's a lad who's got bags of ability, you can see, you can see, you can glide past players, like they're not there. In fact, to be honest, his best little cameo was at Space, where he looked really good, but you're right, he comes on, he looks like he doesn't want to be there. He's not happy. He doesn't look happy. Now, he's got, this is something we spoke about before with, affinity to clubs. Why, he's got no affinity to everybody. He come in, cumin, who wasn't great, not the greatest fella in the world to be a manager. Then, all of a sudden, he chased them and put them on loan when he should have been in our team, because there was big gaps, Blasey was playing, he shouldn't have been playing. He chased them on loan, he went to Leipzig, they looked after him, loved him, put his arm around, and the fans sucked him, so we had that, you know, then Everton kept them, the summer, I went, no, we want you to stay, and then he's not been able to get in our team, and he couldn't get in our team when we were there. Yeah. So, I can only read between the lines and go, it's quite clear, he's something, something's not right. I feel like he's a player who needs to be right in the middle of everything, and you have to tolerate that, tolerate the fact that he might have poor games. For me, he almost has to play two seasons non-stop, without any pressure being on him, and I don't think he'll get that, Everton. Well, where does he play? It's still, I mean, yeah, he come under Ronald Cooman, January 2017, right? We're at the end of 2019, where does he play? Where's his best position come? Exactly, that's the question, on the right striker. He's not on the right, it's just not out. Because he doesn't go on the outside, when he plays on the left, he just wants to run infield, he never gives the ball back there, so for me, he's not a centre forward, because he's not strong enough. Exactly. So for me, the only place I can see him playing in this evident side is in the number 10, and yeah, I don't think he does the work that Sigarton does. So, already, so, there's the problem. I think he could play off the left as a backup to Bernard, but he's a different player. Bernard almost wants to take it up the line and then cut in at the last minute. He wants to cut in as soon as he goes past the half-way line and he's going into trouble. And that's exciting, because he can skip, at Spares, we've seen it twice, he's skipped through and he's skipped around through and you go and go on, son, it's a... But it's not enough to get him games, and if he's not getting games, you're not going to be happy. And so, if he's not happy, we're not going to get the best out of him. Exactly. So, I think this one is a really difficult one. It is, because he's got talent. Because he's got the ability to play, and you'll see him go somewhere, and if he get him right, you'll go, oh my God. But then again, though, then again on the flip side of that. Don't the very best players, whether they've got talent or not, make the best of the situation. Well, they shine anyway. Well, they just make the best of it. Think, you know, whereas for me, I almost feel like that he's not happy today for it, well, whatever, you know. Whereas some players will go, well, I'm not happy, but you know what? I'm going to wake so hard in training, this fellow's going to have to play me. And if at least one thing, I can pull my head up high and go, I did my bit. I don't know, I don't know if he'll get that, because Silver's been very consistent in terms of plays you play. It's plays you do the training. I think when your manager says things like, you create one day in training and the next is not. I think that sells, I think that sells you the pitch. This is a manager who fought to keep them as well. To keep them, and loves the players, and will back the players, so you're dealing with that. It's a difficult one, but 20 million you can have them. Finally, I'm just double checking. John Joe Kenny, there will be another, I'm going to add another player to this book. It's tough, because I don't think he's good enough yet to compete with Seamus, or come in and do the Seamus. I don't know if he's good enough. Ever will be good enough. I don't think he's good enough for that. I'd usually say sell him, but who's the back up to right back? Now obviously we've got Holgate coming back in, after having a decent season on loan at West Brom. I suppose that'll be one for Marco Silver to see both players in preseason and decide, right, can Holgate come in and can he be the back up to Seamus? Can he fight Seamus for that position? And if so, John Joe, you can go. I would probably delay it 12 months, that's cool, whether he can go properly. But I think I'd put him on loan. Yeah. I think I'd say, right, go another year, either see if we can get you the Premier League club that's just come up. I don't know whether one would want to take him, they might want their own thing, or get you a high level championship side and play for 12 months, play in that team, play where you're playing every single week and we'll have a look what you can do, otherwise. See, I mean, they've said they're going to have a discussion. I think Mason Holgate, for me, now comes back and you almost make him the back up right back and say, well, you played half a season at West Brom, you never piped up wanting to be a centre back then, did you? Because you were happy to play games and now it's going to be the same. You know, you say to Holgate, right, you've played games now, come on, can you force your way into this team? And you say to John Joe, you go on loan, you get the games and then almost in 12 months time, you've got these two players, you go, well, which one's going to be the next one? He's developed, yeah. He's developed more. I just look at John Joe now and I find it difficult for him to replicate what James has done. You know what the issue is, well, he's got, is that there's a lot of talk about having to drink in a right back in, so therefore that and others, and Paul's you say again, they're looking at a right back. So I think that Mason, the thing you've got is, can you force your way into a right back, if not, actually you're a good centre back as well. So you covered in a couple of bases with him. He's got two opportunities then, I think with John Joe, he can't play centre back, he's not big enough. So, and the fact that I haven't looked for another right back makes me, I'd be worried about what's in. Very good. Did you go? Erm, he was the other one, you said? No, it was Holgate. Oh, was it? It was Holgate. You didn't throw up of Sandro? Yeah, well, I was just about to say, Sandro Merales, Cucumatina, Besich. Williams. Williams has gone anyway. Yeah, he's gone. Joe Williams, Calum Connolly. None of them. All in the bin, Dal, in the bin. Everyone in the bin. Dal goes on loan, Chef Interneiter for a season. See how he gets on. Everyone else, binned. I'm just having a cutthroat, cutthroat. Henne on your cure. You're bringing back a lot of them in pre-season. But you can't say let them go, because you've never had them. So, bringing back see how he gets on, just won the league for Galatasaray School, they're winning gold, bring them in see how he gets on. So, the flaccid joke of, flaccid's your bin. Bring them back for the pre-season. See what his attitude is. You agree? Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. That's all. And on your cure, I definitely have a look at. Flaccid, I'm still unconvinced about him. I think he's got loads of a bin. But that's what I'm saying. We're talking about sending players on loan. Yeah. How do you get the knowledge of what they've done if you're not prepared to have them back and have a look? Because he's been on loan in the Champions League club, all right, they're not brilliant in terms of the level. But if we're saying we're sending people on loan and letting them play games or football, he might come back and be amazing, might he? He might have, when I say amazing, he might have gone up a level in terms of his responsibilities, his attitude, his professionalism. And how they're seeing fitting. Because now Silver knows what he wants from his team. He might look and go, actually, you now fit the way we play. Yeah. You know, yeah. Definitely. All the youngsters, and I mean all of them, have done nothing. Benny. Have done nothing. He's hardly played. Played again. Have done nothing for me to say they need to come back into the squad. I would be looking to send them on loan again. Again. Dahl, Sheffield United, I think that's a perfect fit to stay there. Then you find out again, another year, he'll get games for Sheffield United because he'll start from the beginning and he'll get more games with it being the Premier League, I think, whereas when they were in the championship, he was, he'd come into a team that was already doing well. And trying to get up. Yeah. Everything's precious where you start in a fresh pre-season, force your way in. And then we'll know them, won't we? Because he'd be playing Premier League at the level. So if he starts lighting it up, then you start going, actually, he can come into our squad, but no. Interesting. Wait and see. Let us know your thoughts in the comments, who do you think should stay? Who do you think should go? Let us know. Big thanks to Cam for coming in. Make sure to check out all our season review videos. They're all in the playlist. Give this video a big thumbs up. It really helps. It really helps. 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